World Cup 2010 Discussion

[Snoogans]

i hate so many guys on the Dutch team

[sailor]

Eww, some of the stadia have artificial turf? That's embarrassing.

And I didn't get to see the game, but wouldn't be surprised to see Australia move on from their group.

[Snoogans]

denmark looks pretty good so far

[boobieman]

they played like shit. and those chances are really hurtin now that Tim Cahill is gonna be suspended.

Germany is really good though, floppin bastards that they are

I said the same thing...I thought I was watchin Italy. I tried to flop like that but I did not have enough beer to do it...but I will keep trying.

SSSYEYAYYAAAA

[spoon]

I said the same thing...I thought I was watchin Italy. I tried to flop like that but I did not have enough beer to do it...but I will keep trying.

SSSYEYAYYAAAA

I'm convinced flopping is taught by every coach throughout this tournament. I've yet to see a team not flop for a call and it's tough to watch.

[Suspect Chin]

I'm convinced flopping is taught by every coach throughout this tournament. I've yet to see a team not flop for a call and it's tough to watch.
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[spoon]

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Yah I hate that sport too...it's a close battle of too much meaningless scoring and theatrics versus too little scoring or even actual shots on goals and theatrics.

Here's my take on 90+ minutes of fucking soccer.

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[TripleSkeet]

I'm convinced flopping is taught by every coach throughout this tournament. I've yet to see a team not flop for a call and it's tough to watch.

Somebody call Ronaldo!!!
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7491/90731015.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/90731015.jpg/)

[Kevin]

Fuck these Fernando Valenzuela's up the arse.

[meanmrbill]

Possible upset in the making....Paraguay off to a 1-0 lead over Italy.

[Hottub]

Buffon is not on the field for the 2nd half.

[Sofa_King]

listening to O and A recap the weekend World Cup action. fucking moronic. dooyyyy. "i know i sound like an idiot, but..." no one knows how to defend the aesthetic brilliance of this sport.

[Snoogans]

the guidos better not cost me 20 bucks

[spoon]

listening to O and A recap the weekend World Cup action. fucking moronic. dooyyyy. "i know i sound like an idiot, but..." no one knows how to defend the aesthetic brilliance of this sport.

says the guy with the classy name

defend boredom baby

show us how, bc I'm bored to death and gave it plenty of shots...unlike those on net in these games

[Barnaby Jones]

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[Sofa_King]

says the guy with the classy name

defend boredom baby

show us how, bc I'm bored to death and gave it plenty of shots...unlike those on net in these games

i doubt it's the kind of thing you can learn to appreciate over a couple games in the summer. basically, the more you watch, you can understand the tempo of play, what moments are actually tense or dangerous for a team, the importance of set pieces (corners, free kicks, etc), what a great save looks like, what good defending looks like. of course, goals add excitement (you should have watched germany for a good attacking display), but the real drama is in watching people dribble cleverly, make long, accurate passes, movement off the ball, outsmarting the defenders, etc. so far, argentina and germany have been the most impressive offensively, so watch them if you like goals. some games are boring, yes, but some basketball games are boring even if the score is in the 90's. soccer does require patience but it rewards it as well. and you don't have to have charles barkley selling you a taco every 5 minutes. only ONE COMMERCIAL BREAK PER GAME (i.e. halftime)

[Sofa_King]

yeah what happened to buffon? too wet out there?

[Sofa_King]

awesome near miss from italy. that would've been lovely.

[Suspect Chin]

Are the elimination round games going to be at the crack of dawn too?

[Dan G]

Are the elimination round games going to be at the crack of dawn too?

10am and 2:30pm est.

[SLCRagu]

Whatever happened to that kid from north Jersey with the Italian parents who plays for Italy? I didn't see his name on the roster, nor did I see Balotelli's but that was for obvious reasons.

[Kevin]

Whatever happened to that kid from north Jersey with the Italian parents who plays for Italy? I didn't see his name on the roster, nor did I see Balotelli's but that was for obvious reasons.



He got cut during final roster cuts.

[hanso]

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[Hottub]

I'm not expecting too much from New Zealand.

[ozzie]

Wow. Buzzer beater!

[sailor]

Good for them. Serves the Slovaks right for sitting back. Hahaha

[Snoogans]

Portugal looks afraid to attack right now. Fuckin fags. I hope IC puts drogba in second half and he runs circles around them

[KingModem]

I think it has been a respectable World Cup thus far. Then Ronaldo starts fucking flopping all over the place. What a bitch. I hate Portugal now.

[Snoogans]

I think it has been a respectable World Cup thus far. Then Ronaldo starts fucking flopping all over the place. What a bitch. I hate Portugal now.

Ive hated him since the first game I saw him play. The thing I hate the most is, rather than just make the play, take the shot, make the pass, etc, he always tries to make it fancier than it has to be. Even just in the first half of this game, there were a couple open guys he missed cause he tried to back heel it or flick it on. Just make the fuckin pass you jerkoff

[Snoogans]

wow the game got a TON better 2nd half
Ronaldo is still playin like shit though. What a lazy bum.

[spoon]

hooray beer

[Sofa_King]

out of the way for DRROOOOOOGGGBAAAA. I hope he nets one today.

[spoon]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

fuck my eyes and ears

[spoon]

yeah

0-0

[Willmore]

Yup. A bunch of snoozefests so far. I blame the ball.

[spoon]

Yup. A bunch of snoozefests so far. I blame the ball.

"i blame the blacks"

[Sofa_King]

Yup. A bunch of snoozefests so far. I blame the ball.

Germany was a ray of light even though it was mild competition. But yeah this game was super disappointing. I hope Drogba heals and improves his form quickly.

[booster11373]

I wonder if we will see a clinic today with Brazil versus NK. Im looking for something like Germany vesus the Ozzies kind of game

[spoon]

I wonder if we will see a clinic today with Brazil versus NK. Im looking for something like Germany vesus the Ozzies kind of game

3-0 or 4-1 is my guess

[Kevin]

3-0 or 4-1 is my guess



What ever the score is it will be 4-0 NK in NK.

[sailor]

Hoping for the insane upset.

[Marc with a c]

i'm hoping for an 11-8 game.

[Sofa_King]

http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/06/15/the-best-part-of-the-world-cup-so-far-pic/

28-1 odds on North Korea today.

[Snoogans]

i predict 1-0 brazil

[barjockey]

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm60/whistler711/BrazilSoccerCheers.jpg
As long as these chicks are there who cares?

[SLCRagu]

I had the same goalkeeper pants as the NK keeper in fifth grade. I think they're Mcgreggors'.

[Snoogans]

these Koreans dont looks that bad

[SLCRagu]

They don't dive or complain, can't wait till they play Portugal.

[Sofa_King]

They don't dive or complain, can't wait till they play Portugal.

Ronaldo provided the only real entertainment during the Ivory Coast - Portugal game today with his near-miss which would've been goal of the round.

[Sofa_King]

Is anyone else listening to O and A? It's called a fucking vuvuZELA!!! If you're gonna do a 20 minute break, stop pronouncing it like a yiddish granny.

[spoon]

Is anyone else listening to O and A? It's called a fucking vuvuZELA!!! If you're gonna do a 20 minute break, stop pronouncing it like a yiddish granny.

who cares, both the vahvooozelda and this soccer have the same effect on me

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[booster11373]

surprising 1st half.

[spoon]

surprising 1st half.

not really

I'd say it's the opposite...2 goals 5 halves played, 6 teams...bout right/the norm to me

:wallbash:

[disneyspy]

this vuvuluzla noise made me turn O&A off and i the sound turned off of the soccer match for the same reason

[booster11373]

Surprising in the defensive competence of the North Korans

[n0thng2bdone]

this vuvuluzla noise made me turn O&A off and i the sound turned off of the soccer match for the same reason

http://lifehacker.com/5564085/how-to-silence-vuvuzela-horns-with-an-eq-filter

[spoon]

Surprising in the defensive competence of the North Korans

even an embargo hasn't broke their defense! Or many of them.

[Snoogans]

im actually rooting for North Korea. What the fuck

[spoon]

im actually rooting for North Korea. What the fuck

root for ur people, we understand

[Sofa_King]

who cares, both the vahvooozelda and this soccer have the same effect on me

good job you're keeping up on this thread though.

[Snoogans]

wow, if that was on purpose that was an INCREDIBLE strike

[Sofa_King]

beautiful goal!!!

[spoon]

good job you're keeping up on this thread though.

i always follow int competition, not to mention it's helping keep me from work

even soccer trumps work

[Sofa_King]

wow, if that was on purpose that was an INCREDIBLE strike

that looked like an impossible angle. this ball can definitely swerve.

[LordJezo]

Oh man Univision doesn't region lock / need you to sign in with a cable provider their online coverage.

This is 100% awesome.

[Snoogans]

this is more like brazil

[Sofa_King]

Best goal of the tournament so far?

[spoon]

Best goal of the tournament so far?

yep, almost the only one

[Snoogans]

that was fuckin nice too

[Hottub]

Here we go.

[Sofa_King]

yep, almost the only one

what's goin on dude? you seem to have no interest in soccer. anyway, germany had some nice goals too.

[spoon]

what's goin on dude? you seem to have no interest in soccer. anyway, germany had some nice goals too.

Isn't it obvious, I like making fun of soccer more than the game itself, even though I'm tuning in due to a world competition. Fuck SK, I watched the women's world cup and curling for fuck's sake.

Go Germany!

[Sofa_King]

wow, great play from N Korea covering the length of the pitch.

[Sofa_King]

Isn't it obvious, I like making fun of soccer more than the game itself, even though I'm tuning in due to a world competition. Fuck SK, I watched the women's world cup and curling for fuck's sake.

Go Germany!

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/044/778/original/hatersgonnacat.jpg?1269800767

[spoon]

cat picture

original at least

[Dan G]

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[KnoxHarrington]

There was just a prime example of why vuvzelas suck in this Chile/Honduras game now. They showed a shot of the Chilean fans dancing and obviously chanting and singing, and the announcer said "The Chilean fans are in full voice", but all I can hear is that damn buzz, those horns being blown by people who probably couldn't care less who actually wins this game.

[Godzoox]

NFL Football game averages 11 minutes of total action.
That's 2.75 min per quarter.
NFL Football game on TV averages 3hr broadcast.
That's 2hr 49min of huddles, commercials and yapping bobble-heads.

I think to fix this soccer needs more arrogant jack-offs yapping non stop and more penis/beer commercials to make it more appealing to the American people.

[Rhah]

England Keeper Green's ex-GF and reason he is sad and let goal in :clap:

http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/06/minett9_01.jpg

http://deadspin.com/5564227/extremely-in+depth-profiles-in-courage-elizabeth-minett-aka-robert-greens-ex/gallery/

[Kevin]

The simple fact that the Brits use the term 'Cock Up' when discribing a mistake, proves that they are all gay.

[A.J.]

The simple fact that the Brits use the term 'Cock Up' when discribing a mistake, proves that they are all gay.

That's why real men use the term "tits up".

[ozzie]

Did anyone watch the Swiss/Spain match?

I just saw the final, and checked out the stats. Looks like Spain dominated in every statistical category.

Just trying to figure out how the hell they ended up losing.

I'm hoping there'll be a replay on ESPN classic tonight.

[Kevin]

Did anyone watch the Swiss/Spain match?

I just saw the final, and checked out the stats. Looks like Spain dominated in every statistical category.

Just trying to figure out how the hell they ended up losing.

I'm hoping there'll be a replay on ESPN classic tonight.

It was actually the other way around if you watched..

Swiss had a shit load of scoring chances, they hit the post at least once.

[ozzie]

It was actually the other way around if you watched..

Swiss had a shit load of scoring chances, they hit the post at least once.

Didn't see a minute of it, not even a highlight. Just stats from the fifa site.

They've got:

Spain - 24 shots to Swiss - 8
Spain - 8 shots on goal to Swiss - 3
Spain - 12 Corner kicks to Swiss - 3
Spain - 12 Free kicks to Swiss - 3
Spain had possession 63% to Swiss 37%

[Snoogans]

Did anyone watch the Swiss/Spain match?

I just saw the final, and checked out the stats. Looks like Spain dominated in every statistical category.

Just trying to figure out how the hell they ended up losing.

I'm hoping there'll be a replay on ESPN classic tonight.

they couldnt finish. They lost in almost the same way they lost to the US in the confed cup from what I could tell

[Willmore]

I fear for Honduras.

[Furtherman]

http://scifiwire.com/LOTR-Worldcup.gif

[Judge Smails]

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[Judge Smails]

http://www.ihasaids.com/upload/data/1276610097.gif

[n0thng2bdone]

was that a legit penalty? watching the spanish broadcast, wondering what the brits are saying

[Rhah]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/06/340x_custom_1276577410128_shirt.jpg

[Sofa_King]

was that a legit penalty? watching the spanish broadcast, wondering what the brits are saying

There was definitely a bit of contact, although the striker really sold it well and kind of dragged his foot. i wouldn't call it a dive, although it was minimal contact and it really is a shame cuz that goalie was performing well up until then.

[n0thng2bdone]

i'm surprised at all of the acting, fake falling down, etc. but i guess it's not much different than basketball. i get why it's part of the sport. enjoying these games

it looked like a clean play to me. looking forward to the match of the day recap. thebox (brit torrents, open signup i think) has it covered.

[meanmrbill]

There was definitely a bit of contact, although the striker really sold it well and kind of dragged his foot. i wouldn't call it a dive, although it was minimal contact and it really is a shame cuz that goalie was performing well up until then.
The striker "selling" it had nothing to do with the red card. When I first saw it I thought it was a bad call but after seeing the replay I agreed with the ref. The goal keeper came nowhere near the ball. It was a good call.

[Snoogans]

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goddamn thats fuckin funny

[Suspect Chin]

goddamn thats fuckin funny

It would never happen though, because it would require announcers that actually speak English.

[Snoogans]

It would never happen though, because it would require announcers that actually speak English.

im pretty sure martin tyler was speakin english

[Hottub]

Korea scored an own goal!!!!!
FACE!!!!!

Argentina up 1-0.

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[Hottub]

Argentina scores again off the header.

2-0

[Hottub]

Messi is friggin' unbelievable.

[Hottub]

Chungyong scores in injury time.:wallbash:

2-1

[Snoogans]

messi is such a fuckin animal. Even when he misses or someone doesnt make something of his passes, you can just see how nasty he is. So far, no one in the world cup, even the germans, had an individual look THAT much better than everyone else.


And Tevez is a fuckin maniac, I love it

[sailor]

i bet he's a crappy griller tho'

[Hottub]

Total domination

[Snoogans]

south korea is playin smart. They look pretty good too

[Hottub]

Yeah, they've stepped it up in the 2nd half.

[Snoogans]

damn Messi is unmarkable

[Hottub]

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Snoogans]

Beast

[Suspect Chin]

#12 defender for Korea just watched that header go in.

[Hottub]

Higuain!!!!:clap:

4-1

[KnoxHarrington]

Argentina throwing a real beatdown on South Korea.

Maradona's ready to celebrate

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/835/maravuvuvuv.jpg

[Hottub]

http://alisosoccer.com/images/clip_art/hat_trick_left.jpg

[n0thng2bdone]

The striker "selling" it had nothing to do with the red card. When I first saw it I thought it was a bad call but after seeing the replay I agreed with the ref. The goal keeper came nowhere near the ball. It was a good call.

true dat, just saw it again

[KnoxHarrington]

Holy shit, a red card will leave Nigeria a man down for almost an hour of play.

Massive break for Greece.

[Suspect Chin]

That Nigerian shouldn't have been jaywalking.

[Suspect Chin]

These teams are way too reliant on the header to score. I'd like to see a stat once the WC is over of what percent of goals were scored off headers.

[Snoogans]

how did he not bury that rebound?

[disneyspy]

how did he not bury that rebound?

he must feel like shit right now,i know i would

[Snoogans]

the 2nd games through group play have been so much better. Now shit is gettin fun

[Snoogans]

what a save. This Nigeria goalie is a beast

[Snoogans]

scratch that

[Suspect Chin]

the 2nd games through group play have been so much better. Now shit is gettin fun



Agreed.

[Snoogans]

this goalie for Nigeria is still playin well. That 2nd goal was a fuck up but otherwise he has been on point

[Suspect Chin]

So since the entire cup is a month, and the group play lasts 3 weeks, does that mean they are going to cram the elimination rounds into one week?

[hammersavage]

So since the entire cup is a month, and the group play lasts 3 weeks, does that mean they are going to cram the elimination rounds into one week?

they are all done by the 25th. two weeks for group, two weeks for the rest.

[n0thng2bdone]

dude's like, "i shitt u not"

[Suspect Chin]

this goalie for Nigeria is still playin well. That 2nd goal was a fuck up but otherwise he has been on point


Yeah but that second goal cost them at least a point and gave Greece 3. Rebound goals like that are unforgiveable.

[Willmore]

Yeah but that second goal cost them at least a point and gave Greece 3. Rebound goals like that are unforgiveable.

Yes they are, it's impossible to avoid those rebounds as a defender. The only way is to close in on the opposition as fast as possible, but that leaves the defender vulnerable to being rounded. And once the ball is in the air, it's a split second - no time to avoid it.

[Snoogans]

So since the entire cup is a month, and the group play lasts 3 weeks, does that mean they are going to cram the elimination rounds into one week?

group play ends up being like 16 days and then the rest goes in like 14 days

[Suspect Chin]

Yes they are, it's impossible to avoid those rebounds as a defender. The only way is to close in on the opposition as fast as possible, but that leaves the defender vulnerable to being rounded. And once the ball is in the air, it's a split second - no time to avoid it.

How about catching the ball instead of deflecting it back where a rebound shot is possible. Not saying it's easy but it separates the good keepers from the great.

[sailor]

As bleak as it might look, if Nigeria beat south Korea they will most likely advance.

[Willmore]

How about catching the ball instead of deflecting it back where a rebound shot is possible. Not saying it's easy but it separates the good keepers from the great.

Oh, you meant the second goal, my bad. Yeah, that was on the keeper, you have to secure the ball or turn it over for a corner. When I saw second goal, I thought second goal of the game, for some reason.

[KnoxHarrington]

I really wanna watch that documentary that ESPN is running promos for, "The Two Escobars", about the murder of Andres Escobar, who had an infamous own goal that knocked Columbia out of the 1994 World Cup and who was subsequently killed by drug lords who'd lost money betting on the game.

It's Tuesday at 9. Should be pretty cool.

[KnoxHarrington]

Mexico/France match starting on ESPN2, by the way.

I'd much rather watch this than 1st round US Open play, especially since this game will probably be over by the time Tiger Woods tees off.

[Snoogans]

Mexico/France match starting on ESPN2, by the way.

I'd much rather watch this than 1st round US Open play, especially since this game will probably be over by the time Tiger Woods tees off.

436 he tees off, so it will def be over

[sailor]

Can't figure out if this is a win-win or lose-lose game. Hate both teams.

[Kevin]

Can't figure out if this is a win-win or lose-lose game. Hate both teams.



I cant root for Mexico, ever.

[sailor]

I cant root for Mexico, ever.


Yeah, France is just a general thing and Mexico is soccer specific.

[Kevin]

Yeah, France is just a general thing and Mexico is soccer specific.



Yea, agreed.

And what a terrible idea it was having this in SA.

The awful horns, the curruption there, and its fucking freezing there.

Its like having it in freakin December here.

[KnoxHarrington]

Yea, agreed.

And what a terrible idea it was having this in SA.

The awful horns, the curruption there, and its fucking freezing there.

Its like having it in freakin December here.

They just showed a graphic that it's 45 degrees at the stadium right now

My guess is that FIFA brass will brag about how well this went and compliment South Africa -- and then go back into the conference rooms and decide that there will never be another World Cup in Africa again.

[Suspect Chin]

How many yellow cards does it take to miss the next match?

[KnoxHarrington]

How many yellow cards does it take to miss the next match?

2 in the same match, I think.

[Hottub]

2 yellow = 1 red

[sailor]

Two in one match become a red and you miss the next one. Two in different matches and you just miss the next match.

[KnoxHarrington]

Wow, what a sweet goal Mexico just got there.

[Suspect Chin]

That's at least the second missed offsides call that resulted in a goal thus far.

[Suspect Chin]

2 in the same match, I think.



Hmm I don't think so because that would result in immediate ejection.

[sailor]

Hmm I don't think so because that would result in immediate ejection.

just read my explanation.

[Suspect Chin]

just read my explanation.

Got it.

[Snoogans]

Two in one match become a red and you miss the next one. Two in different matches and you just miss the next match.

sort of. They have to be in consecutive matches. If you get a yellow in the first then third im pretty sure you dont get suspended

Hmm I don't think so because that would result in immediate ejection.

2 yellows in 1 game is a red, ejection, and next game suspended

[sailor]

Not true, snoogans. Yellow in first and third and you are suspended for first game of knockout round. BUT, if you have one yellow thru the group stage it gets removed at start of knockout stage.

Apparently UEFA also resets yellows after the quarterfinals now, but I don't know if FIFA has followed suit.

http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/new-yellow-card-rule-no-more-groups-of-death.html

[Snoogans]

Not true, snoogans. Yellow in first and third and you are suspended for first game of knockout round. BUT, if you have one yellow thru the group stage it gets removed at start of knockout stage.

Apparently UEFA also resets yellows after the quarterfinals now, but I don't know if FIFA has followed suit.

http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/new-yellow-card-rule-no-more-groups-of-death.html

thanks

whats the rule on leagues. Like EPL, isnt it consecutive games? Why is that in my head?

[n0thng2bdone]

That's at least the second missed offsides call that resulted in a goal thus far.

i was just reading about the offsides rule. i think i get it now. seems like there is a gray area for the ref's discretion- when an off. player isn't making a play on the ball or the goal, he might not call it. was this the case? or was it just a missed call?

edit-also, is the offside trap common?

[Snoogans]

i was just reading about the offsides rule. i think i get it now. seems like there is a gray area for the ref's discretion- when an off. player isn't making a play on the ball or the goal, he might not call it. was this the case? or was it just a missed call?

edit-also, is the offside trap common?

yea its pretty common. and yea to be offside you have to be involved in the play

also there has to be more guys behind for D. But it includes the goalie. Its confusing but basically if 2 players are ahead of 1 defender, and the goalie moves out past those 2 guys, they are now offsides, cause its 2 guys vs only 1 defender. But obviously the goalie doesnt count when its 1 guy and just him. Its a weird rule but i sorta get it, if the goalie is behind them its technically 2 and 2 so its good. If he traps them then its 2 vs 1 and becomes offside

[n0thng2bdone]

ok, so what if there is a player offside for a goal by his teammate but there was no contact between players?

[Suspect Chin]

i was just reading about the offsides rule. i think i get it now. seems like there is a gray area for the ref's discretion- when an off. player isn't making a play on the ball or the goal, he might not call it. was this the case? or was it just a missed call?

edit-also, is the offside trap common?

The instances I am referring to resulted in a goal by the offside player. The first was today by Mexico and the other one was on day 1 I think but I can't remember the teams.

[Snoogans]

ok, so what if there is a player offside for a goal by his teammate but there was no contact between players?

if the ball comes near the offside guy they will rpob call it. So if he is within a few feet and doesnt play it its prob still whistled

[n0thng2bdone]

thanks yall

[Dan G]

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6933/pamn9zi37pz.gif

[Suspect Chin]

It still cracks me up how that little bitch collapsed like the French faggot exploded his heart with that head butt.

[Snoogans]

It still cracks me up how that little bitch collapsed like the French faggot exploded his heart with that head butt.

sorry read that wrong

[Suspect Chin]

sorry read that wrong

The guy who threw the headbutt is Zidane. He's definitely a frenchman.

[sailor]

thanks

whats the rule on leagues. Like EPL, isnt it consecutive games? Why is that in my head?


I honestly haven't followed leagues closely enough to recall. Do they do something win points, like with technical fouls in the NBA?

[sailor]

The guy who threw the headbutt is Zidane. He's definitely a frenchman.

Duran Duran.

[Dan G]

thanks

whats the rule on leagues. Like EPL, isnt it consecutive games? Why is that in my head?

Pretty sure it's 5 yellows in a season results in a 1 match suspension.

If a team accumulates 5 yellows in 1 match they get fined.

[Snoogans]

The guy who threw the headbutt is Zidane. He's definitely a frenchman.

i know. i read it at first like you were sayin the guy who got hit was french

[Snoogans]

Pretty sure it's 5 yellows in a season results in a 1 match suspension.

If a team accumulates 5 yellows in 1 match they get fined.

thanks, i went and looked it up and saw that after I posted.

[Suspect Chin]

i know. i read it at first like you were sayin the guy who got hit was french

Yeah I saw that you edited your comment just as I submitted mine.

[Kevin]

Associated Press
JOHANNESBURG -- Police say a South African man who wanted to watch a World Cup match instead of a religious program was beaten to death by his family in the northeastern part of the country.

David Makoeya, a 61-year-old man from the small village of Makweya, Limpopo province, fought with his wife and two children for the remote control on Sunday because he wanted to watch Germany play Australia in the World Cup. The others, however, wanted to watch a gospel show.

"He said, 'No, I want to watch soccer,'" police spokesman Mothemane Malefo said Thursday. "That is when the argument came about.

"In that argument, they started assaulting him."

Malefo said Makoeya got up to change the channel by hand after being refused the remote control and was attacked by his 68-year-old wife Francina and two children, 36-year-old son Collin and 23-year-old daughter Lebogang.

Malefo said he was not sure what the family used to kill Makoeya.

"It appears they banged his head against the wall," Malefo said. "They phoned the police only after he was badly injured, but by the time the police arrived the man was already dead."

All three were arrested Sunday night, but Lebogang was released on $200 bail Tuesday, Malefo said. The other two are still being held in custody.

Malefo said the mother and son will reappear in the local Seshego Magistrates Court on July 27.

"He was always a happy man, never violent," Makoeya's nieces, Miriam and Anna, told the Daily Sun newspaper. "On Saturday, we saw him the last time at a funeral."

The World Cup, being played in Africa for the first time, started Friday and runs through July 11.

Boy did he pick a bad game to be killed over...

[Hottub]

Ouch!
Klose gets a red card.

[Hottub]

And just like that, Serbia scores.

[LordJezo]

:(

[sailor]

Radio announcers are destroying this ref. Say he's made the game all about him handing out cards for pussy, incidental contact.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Damn, if this score holds, it would be Deutschland's first stage loss since 86.

[booster11373]

predictions?

[KnoxHarrington]

Slovenia flopping on the opening kickoff. Nice.

[Tenbatsuzen]

predictions?

pain

[Tenbatsuzen]

Slovenia flopping on the opening kickoff. Nice.

Brilliant strategy. They're outmatched, so flop to try and get fouls and reds on the US.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ron had a great line re: vuvuzelas and nobody picked up on it:

"20 years ago, we wouldn't have had this problem. They would have disappeared, mysteriously."

[Hottub]

Crap.

[booster11373]

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/vh.jpg

[Kevin]

Bums

[Snoogans]

we look GOD awful

[Snoogans]

Shoot The Ball You Faggots

[Snoogans]

we are fuckin terrible. Im so depressed

[KnoxHarrington]

Holy shit.

[yojimbo7248]

I'm starting to hate this sport. You barely touch another player and the refs call a foul.

[booster11373]

Slovenia rattled our cage early and we never recovered.

[Snoogans]

Slovenia rattled our cage early and we never recovered.

we did come back though. We had 3 or 4 good chances to score when it was 1-1 and we blew them all.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

BOOO S A


I have made bowel movements bigger then the Country of Slovenia.......


oh well guess it is back to not caring about Soccer..........

[ozzie]

I can't believe I called in sick for this.


Fucking depressing.

[Snoogans]

that was a nice goal

[ozzie]

Back in the game! Great patience and decision by Donovan!

[Willmore]

The Goalie is crap, you MUST come out and close the angle of attack. Donovan got a gift goal. He executed well, no doubt, but 90% of the time, goalies make a save.

[KnoxHarrington]

So fucking close

[sailor]

BOOO S A


I have made bowel movements bigger then the Country of Slovenia.......


oh well guess it is back to not caring about Soccer..........

please do.

[Snoogans]

Yes. Thank You Hippo

[KnoxHarrington]

usa
Usa
Usa
Usa

[Hottub]

yes!

[ozzie]

Gooooooooooooooooooaaaaaal!!!

[Willmore]

Slovenia, you motherfucking lame-leg asshole, I put money on you.

Now go back and score a fucking winning goal in the next 10 minutes.

[Kevin]

Hippos, You are the man.

Your jinx never fails.

[booster11373]

Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!

[Snoogans]

Bullshit

[KnoxHarrington]

What the fuck?

This referee sucks.

[Snoogans]

what is this ref doin?

[Willmore]

Hahaha, worst off-side call ever.

[booster11373]

Kill the Ref?

[KnoxHarrington]

If anything, the call should have been a penalty kick for the US in the box.

If it was offsides, we've been told all tournament that you don't call offsides unless it's clear. No way that was clear.

The US might get fucked out of 2 points by an awful ref here.

[JPMNICK]

we were just robbed, terrible call

[KnoxHarrington]

Hahah easy lip reading from Howard there..."What...the...FUCK?"

[Snoogans]

we got SO fucked, but, partly its on us for not waking up at all in the first half. There is no reason we shoulda needed 3 goals to get 3 points. I dont know why the fuck we keep comin out asleep every game

[Snoogans]

we are still ok even if England wins today. Then both of them will have 4. We beat nigeria to get to 5 and prob will get by no matter what happens in the england slovenia game

[Willmore]

Hahah easy lip reading from Howard there..."What...the...FUCK?"

Yeah, but he could not have seen it from his position. You can't tell shit from the goalie's position, the depth perception doesn't allow for it.

[KnoxHarrington]

we are still ok even if England wins today. Then both of them will have 4. We beat nigeria to get to 5 and prob will get by no matter what happens in the england slovenia game

Yeah, but the best possible thing that could happen is an England/Algeria draw.

It's gonna feel weird rooting for a game to end in a tie. "Go, both of you!"

[Recyclerz]

I just found Mali on a map. I want it nuked just for this ref.

Of course, I didn't care about soccer/football two weeks ago.

[Snoogans]

Yeah, but the best possible thing that could happen is an England/Algeria draw.

It's gonna feel weird rooting for a game to end in a tie. "Go, both of you!"

well obviously a draw is the best but im gonna assume for now england wins. 4 slovenia 4 we have 2 algeria 0.

If we beat algeria that gives us 5. If any team wins that england slovakia game we are in, and if they draw, since we won vs algeria, we would win the goal differential im pretty sure against one of them. So if we win, its like 95% we are in


I think I figured it right

[ozzie]

Exactly. The USA isn't out of this yet, but it could come down to goal differential.

Both the USA/Algeria game and the Eng/Slovenia games will be played at the same time next Wednesday.

They won't know exactly what they'll need to advance, other than win, and win BIG!

I don't see any scenario where the US can not at least tie for 2nd with a win next week.

[ozzie]

well obviously a draw is the best but im gonna assume for now england wins. 4 slovenia 4 we have 2 algeria 0.

If we beat algeria that gives us 5. If any team wins that england slovakia game we are in, and if they draw, since we won vs algeria, we would win the goal differential im pretty sure against one of them. So if we win, its like 95% we are in


I think I figured it right

Slovenia leads the US by a goal right now. If you're assuming an Eng win today, they would lead the US too.

So if the three teams end all end up with 5 pts as you described in your scenario, the US would need to count on beating Algeria by at least 2 goals to ensure they'd advance.

What's the next tie-breaker after goal differential?

Head to head wouldn't matter in this case, because we're assuming an Eng/Slv draw, and the US already has draws against both.

[Snoogans]

Slovenia leads the US by a goal right now. If you're assuming an Eng win today, they would lead the US too.

So if the three teams end all end up with 5 pts as you described in your scenario, the US would need to count on beating Algeria by at least 2 goals to ensure they'd advance.

What's the next tie-breaker after goal differential?

Head to head wouldn't matter in this case, because we're assuming an Eng/Slv draw, and the US already has draws against both.

it might be total goals. Im not sure though. Whatever, how bout we should up the first half and go be algeria by fuckin 3

[KnoxHarrington]

I commend to you this blog posting by Joe Posnanski on CNNSI.com, about how the US's comeback against Slovenia could have been that electrifying moment that really made Americans love soccer, and it was blown by an incompetent ref who made an awful call he refuses to explain. He starts by talking about a friend of his from England who was turned into a lifelong baseball fan when the first baseball game she ever attended happened to be Nolan Ryan's 7th no hitter.

There was no fluke in this comeback. The United States team, facing all those sports death clichés — back against the wall, everything to lose, on the brink — played a magnificent half of soccer and had done something transcendent. Yes, this was Nolan Ryan’s seventh no-hitter… you didn’t have to know soccer, appreciate soccer, understand soccer or even like soccer to be in the moment.

Only the winning goal was disallowed by Koman Coulibaly. And nobody knew why. Nobody. They showed the replay on television again and again… there was clearly no offside on the play. There was no foul — and if there was any foul it had to be on Slovenia. There was nothing to call. There was nothing but a brilliant goal. But the brilliant goal was disallowed anyway. Donovan would say after the game that the players asked Coulibaly for the simplest thing: Just tell them the call. Just tell them WHY he had disallowed the goal. Donovan would say that Coulibaly refused.

When you are watching a sport that you don’t often watch, things happen that you don’t quite understand. Why didn’t that play count? Oh, the offensive lineman was holding. Why was that basket disallowed? Oh, that guy was standing in the lane for three seconds. Why was that home run taken away? Oh, the umpire said it went foul. This happens in every sport.

But what made Coulibali’s Call-of-Folly so maddening is that even soccer experts could not tell us why it happened. Even an honest bad call — even Jim Joyce’s imperfect game call, for instance — is something digestible. He thought the guy was safe. OK. But this… what did he see? What mistake was made? Can a referee simply disallow a goal for fuzzy reasons that only he seems to know?

The world has grown used to the foggy quirks of soccer — extra time, diving, stretchers for players who immediately run back out on the pitch, calls made without explanation. But most of us are not used to these things. And, for so many, this was a lousy introduction to soccer’s whims.


I think this World Cup has not been a good introduction to soccer for American fans. Boring 0-0 ties, vulvzelas blaring constantly, and now one of the great screwjobs in sports history. I can't imagine that even experienced fans like this World Cup much. This is not the showcase FIFA wanted.

The rest of the post here: http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/06/18/the-goal-that-wasnt/?eref=sihp

[Hottub]

Perhaps it was the jackass ref's way of taking back the gift we got from England in the first match.

You sir, are a giant bag of douche.

[Kevin]

I commend to you this blog posting by Joe Posnanski on CNNSI.com, about how the US's comeback against Slovenia could have been that electrifying moment that really made Americans love soccer, and it was blown by an incompetent ref who made an awful call he refuses to explain. He starts by talking about a friend of his from England who was turned into a lifelong baseball fan when the first baseball game she ever attended happened to be Nolan Ryan's 7th no hitter.



I think this World Cup has not been a good introduction to soccer for American fans. Boring 0-0 ties, vulvzelas blaring constantly, and now one of the great screwjobs in sports history. I can't imagine that even experienced fans like this World Cup much. This is not the showcase FIFA wanted.

The rest of the post here: http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/06/18/the-goal-that-wasnt/?eref=sihp



Can you protest shit in Soccer like i baseball or are ref call irreversable?

[dino_electropolis]

I commend to you this blog posting by Joe Posnanski on CNNSI.com, about how the US's comeback against Slovenia could have been that electrifying moment that really made Americans love soccer, and it was blown by an incompetent ref who made an awful call he refuses to explain. He starts by talking about a friend of his from England who was turned into a lifelong baseball fan when the first baseball game she ever attended happened to be Nolan Ryan's 7th no hitter.






Really?

Because if i was unfamiliar with baseball and went to a game where one team didnt get one hit, i would want my money back.

[Snoogans]

Can you protest shit in Soccer like i baseball or are ref call irreversable?

you really need to ask this after that handball shit?

[booster11373]

Scoreless tie in the ENG vs. ALG would be a great result for the US

[Snoogans]

Algeria actually looks like a better team. This is fucked up. I hope it continues

[Kevin]

you really need to ask this after that handball shit?



Oh yea, I forgot about that shit.

Shame, the micks would have prob played better then those french faggots

[Tenbatsuzen]

Really?

Because if i was unfamiliar with baseball and went to a game where one team didnt get one hit, i would want my money back.

If you're going to a game for the first time, you've usually picked a team to root for. If you were rooting for the Rangers, that's a good result, stop acting like obstinate douche.

[Kevin]

Algeria actually looks like a better team. This is fucked up. I hope it continues



Soccernet editor: As the sole Englishman in a pressroom full of Americans and Slovanians, I am ashamed to be here right now...

[Snoogans]

Soccernet editor: As the sole Englishman in a pressroom full of Americans and Slovanians, I am ashamed to be here right now...

NICE

[booster11373]

You can hear all thise bad english sing a longs over the vuvuzelas.

[KnoxHarrington]

Le'ts go Algeria!

Well, don't go so far that you score and actually win this. But go!

[KnoxHarrington]

England's in real danger of not advancing from the group if this result stands. I think Slovenia can definitely beat them.

[ozzie]

Le'ts go Algeria!

Well, don't go so far that you score and actually win this. But go!


I don't see how Algeria winning hurts the US chances of advancing.

I've been rooting for them to pull the upset all afternoon!

[Kevin]

I don't see how Algeria winning hurts the US chances of advancing.

I've been rooting for them to pull the upset all afternoon!



Yea, if we win we are in if Algeria had won anyway

[ozzie]

Haha! Well, that simplifies things a bit.

A US win over Algeria, and they advance. Period.

No "goal differential" or tie breakers.

It won't matter what happens with England/Slovenia.

Win and you're in!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Anyone have the trailer and lime cart ready for Rooney?

[booster11373]

2 tie games today but lots of excitement I dont get the people who bitch about soccer being boring

[KEITHJAY]

I have to put up with my brothers who still think were Danish, they play tomorrow, fuck we've lived in Canada almost all of are adult lives why all the loyalty I don't know. Danmark is like watching paint dry :wallbash: I loved paying soccer when I was a kid, not watching it

[booster11373]

I have to put up with my brothers who still think were Danish, they play tomorrow, fuck we've lived in Canada almost all of are adult lives why all the loyalty I don't know. Danmark is like watching paint dry :wallbash: I loved paying soccer when I was a kid, not watching it

Are you forced to?

[K.C.]

no excuses now...beat Algeria and move through. Forget the screwjob, forget about goal differential...none of it matters.

As for England...couldn't happen to a nicer team. Just goes to show chemistry means something in soccer.

[Suspect Chin]

Here is a summary of scenarios from this (http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/playing-out-the-scenarios--fbintl_ro-scenario061810.html) article:

1. ) U.S. beats Algeria on Wednesday and we advance no matter what.

2.) U.S. draws with Algeria --
A.) If England loses to Slovenia, we're in.
B.) England draws with Slovenia but scores less than 2 more goals than we score against Algeria, we're in.
C.) England draws with Slovenia but scores at least 2 more goals than we score, we're out.

3.) U.S. loses to Algeria, we're out.

[Kevin]

no excuses now...beat Algeria and move through. Forget the screwjob, forget about goal differential...none of it matters.

As for England...couldn't happen to a nicer team. Just goes to show chemistry means something in soccer.

Wayne Rooney= The Ryan Howard of Soccer:dry:

[K.C.]

Wayne Rooney= The Ryan Howard of Soccer:dry:

Losing to two pitchers at home with 5 ERAs really is eating away at you, isn't it?

[Kevin]

Losing to two pitchers at home with 5 ERAs really is eating away at you, isn't it?

Nope, we beat your best... And last time i checked, we lost 2 out of 3 to you last year..

How did that work out?

[K.C.]

Here is a summary of scenarios from this (http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/playing-out-the-scenarios--fbintl_ro-scenario061810.html) article:

1. ) U.S. beats Algeria on Wednesday and we advance no matter what.

2.) U.S. draws with Algeria --
A.) If England loses to Slovenia, we're in.
B.) England draws with Slovenia but scores less than 2 more goals than we score against Algeria, we're in.
C.) England draws with Slovenia but scores at least 2 more goals than we score, we're out.

3.) U.S. loses to Algeria, we're out.

I have no idea what to expect in the England/Slovenia game....Slovenia looked sloppy against Algeria, they looked fantastic in the first half against the U.S. and awful in the second...they're tough to get a handle on.

That said, there's absolutely nothing in these last two matches that would suggest to anyone that England is ready to breakout and take that match other than reputation. They've played like shit in two games.

Algeria can't score, but they move the ball and get back pretty well. If the U.S. can avoid the dreaded first 15 minutes goal, they should be able to at least eek out a 1-0 victory.

But they've got to start better. I wouldn't be surprised at anything with this group at this point.

[Kevin]

I have no idea what to expect in the England/Slovenia game....Slovenia looked sloppy against Algeria, they looked fantastic in the first half against the U.S. and awful in the second...they're tough to get a handle on.

That said, there's absolutely nothing in these last two matches that would suggest to anyone that England is ready to breakout and take that match other than reputation. They've played like shit in two games.

Algeria can't score, but they move the ball and get back pretty well. If the U.S. can avoid the dreaded first 15 minutes goal, they should be able to at least eek out a 1-0 victory.

But they've got to start better. I wouldn't be surprised at anything with this group at this point.

Can we not give up a goal in the first 5-15 goddamn minutes this freaking time?

Please?

[spoon]

Here is a summary of scenarios from this (http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/playing-out-the-scenarios--fbintl_ro-scenario061810.html) article:

1. ) U.S. beats Algeria on Wednesday and we advance no matter what.

2.) U.S. draws with Algeria --
A.) If England loses to Slovenia, we're in.
B.) England draws with Slovenia but scores less than 2 more goals than we score against Algeria, we're in.
C.) England draws with Slovenia but scores at least 2 more goals than we score, we're out.

3.) U.S. loses to Algeria, we're out.

Here's the thing, a win here and we were already in and probably getting the better draw for the second round. It still DOES matter in my mind. Awful bs call. He and Joyce should vacation together in Hatti.