Attn Haters: The MEGA, MEGA "Penultimate" Anti-Dave Thread [Archive] - Page 2

Rockvillejoe

03-08-2007, 01:03 PM

fezhaspeaked wrote: JPMNICK wrote: NEVER ENOUGH DAVE!! Also, think about this for a minute. Fez was very sick for a few days, and even though he is back, I am sure he is still not 100%. It is not like a normal job where you can sulk at a desk, he has to talk for 6 hours per day. I am sure dave is just helping out on air to keep fez from over-exurting himself.Agreed  More Dave = More GooderDave is the Best Producer R & F   has had since NEWHe is funny in 2 ways1. Funny with some ( not a lot)  of  good Jokes and Rants2.  Funny to laff at, will shave head  get tattoos, Hot Sauce, and so on.Let Earl do the producing crap,  Dave does  a smaller  Portion and Contributes to the show alot.  Plus the interns relate with him.  Dave is a Fan. He should be respected. You can Hate Dave,  but that is still Heat.  i didn't know how much he had become a real important part of the show and how funny he is until they made that bogus announcement that he was leaving. then, to me, it was, shit, this guy will be missed.

Earlshog

03-08-2007, 01:10 PM

Fallon wrote: I vote more Dave. He's really grown on me. ewwwwwwweeeee

J.Clints

03-08-2007, 01:11 PM

burrben wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Should we have a sticky thread that says "TO EVERYONE WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT DAVE" and any future threads with generic complaints be locked with a link to that thread? i'm gonna vote for that ideaEven though Ten said it I vote Yes.

J.Clints

03-08-2007, 01:12 PM

I think Dave does a great job when they need him to step up.

Drunky McBetidont

03-08-2007, 01:16 PM

<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/46/Topic/57699/page/lets_face_facts.htm">http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/46/Topic/57699/page/lets_face_facts.htm</a>i love you!!!

ralphbxny

03-08-2007, 01:21 PM

sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: <img src="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/reillyluck/Villainsarecool.jpg" border="0" width="600" height="476" />  why is catwoman holding a white dildo? She knows none of those guys are finishers!!!!

Planty

03-08-2007, 01:24 PM

Eastside is great, improves the show. Funkdat is wack, he has to go.

Zorro

03-08-2007, 01:33 PM

I'd "Z" on Dave's chest anytime.

J.Clints

03-08-2007, 01:39 PM

Planty wrote: Eastside is great, improves the show. Funkdat is wack, he has to go. I agree with this green thing.

Golfman

03-08-2007, 01:56 PM

Dave's fine, just needs more cowbell smashing in his grill.  Wind up that chucker Ronnie B, lets hear some noise!

J.Clints

03-08-2007, 02:01 PM

Enough Fuckdat already!

ruggedo

03-08-2007, 10:16 PM

What I dont understand is how anyone, who has listened to even ten minutes of this show, would believe that Ron would allow anyone on mic he didnt want there. That aside Dave ,as directed by Ron and ghosted by Fez, is getting better every day.

conman823

03-08-2007, 10:25 PM

ruggedo wrote: What I dont understand is how anyone, who has listened to even ten minutes of this show, would believe that Ron would allow anyone on mic he didnt want there. That aside Dave ,as directed by Ron and ghosted by Fez, is getting better every day. I agree but to what end. Far be it for me to question the greatness of Ronnie B, but sometimes i think he does it just so people would start threads like this.  I think less Dave, more akward out of touch Earl!!

LilLibra

03-09-2007, 05:49 AM

ruggedo wrote: What I dont understand is how anyone, who has listened to even ten minutes of this show, would believe that Ron would allow anyone on mic he didnt want there. That aside Dave ,as directed by Ron and ghosted by Fez, is getting better every day.I agree. I like Dave. He definitely adds something new and fresh to the show but I admit there are times when it feels like overkill.

funkdat

03-09-2007, 08:15 AM

Took just 12 minutes today and now that he's gotten on mike he won't be getting off it anytime soon. Uggghh!

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 08:18 AM

funkdat wrote: Took just 12 minutes today and now that he's gotten on mike he won't be getting off it anytime soon. Uggghh! i hope you and busybeeman are walking down the street holding hands today, and a bus hits the both of you. and then catches fire. and then a plane falls on top of the whole mess.  and your parents get aids.

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 08:20 AM

that better not be you calling in, faggot!

Fat_Sunny

03-09-2007, 08:42 AM

Dave's Screams Are Hollywood-Quality!  Go Dave!

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 08:54 AM

I like Dave on the show but I say we rip him a new asshole anyway for bashing us all the time.

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 08:56 AM

when dave says something about me personally on air, i will rip him a new one. till then, its just a bit.

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 08:57 AM

We need a listener party that is just for Ronfez.net. Invite the boys and ban dave from the party. Tell him we suck too much for him to come. Than show him pictures the next day. No good bastard.

SinA

03-09-2007, 09:03 AM

eh... let's try something else, but thank you for posting.

undressa

03-09-2007, 09:05 AM

thats a bad ideaI don't have a good idea but I can spot a bad one

funkdat

03-09-2007, 09:08 AM

Wow! Big shock! It's been like 15 whole minutes without Daves weasely voice on mike. He must be dyin.

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 09:15 AM

It was supposed to be tongue in cheak but you guys have gotten such a steady diet of negative newbie posters you don't recognize good old fashioned sarcasm anymore.

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 09:16 AM

I love dave but I just felt like bitch slapping him, just for fun.

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 09:18 AM

SinA wrote: eh... let's try something else, but thank you for posting.See i can recognize good old fashioned sarcasm. Unless you really are thanking me for posting. If thats the case,.....well im glad i made you happy.<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/happy.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

SinA

03-09-2007, 09:20 AM

Bestinshow wrote: SinA wrote: eh... let's try something else, but thank you for posting.See i can recognize good old fashioned sarcasm. Unless you really are thanking me for posting. If thats the case,.....well im glad i made you happy.<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/happy.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />just part of a conscious effort to be positive

Death Metal Moe

03-09-2007, 09:25 AM

Dress up like a dog and let him blow you.  Just as you finish, take off the mask to he knows be blew a man.That's when he'll finally be able to finish.

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 09:26 AM

How did this damn negative, sniveling whinning thread turn into something positive? We can't do anything right here at Ronfez.net.

SinA

03-09-2007, 09:53 AM

wtf with the delayed double posts? the server here suuuuuuuuuuuuucks.  i hate this place.

This message was edited by SinA on 3-9-07 @ 1:55 PM

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:08 AM

Just because someone is new to posting or a new member here, does not necessarily mean that they are new to listening to the Ron & Fez show. Perhaps these posters are long time listeners and have been loyal fans for multiple years.  I know in my case I have been a constant listener and R&F fan since early 2001. By “constant” I mean listened on WNEW, through WJFK, To XM.  I have laughed with them when they forced Al Dukes to eat ham and I've cried with them when they made it into work the day the towers came down so that they could give all of us a chance to vent.  I know that I have always appreciated the combination of funny, serious, silly, realness and intellectual stimulation. It was rarely stupid, and hardly ever fake.  Whenever there was something (topic, character, personality...) that annoyed a certain amount of the listeners, one always endured because it rarely took up more than a quarter of any show and certainly didn’t monopolize days on end worth of shows.   Take, for example, when Billy went AWOL. Throughout the ordeal, it would be brought up, talked about, laughed about and then moved on from each day. One could also take solace in the fact that if they couldn't stand a member of the show at the time, the member himself was always trying to cultivate a career and one day would move up and/or out. Rarely did the annoying personality have actual "control" over the show. Take for example, again, Billy and Al Dukes.  I'm sure Billy annoyed many people, but he did not appear, in practice or title, to have broad management responsibility over content.  You knew Ron and Fez liked him, and even if you didn’t like him, you knew that he would have his little moment in the spotlight and graciously step offstage to let the show continue.   Al Dukes, on the other hand, had a title of responsibility. However, this was mitigated because we got the impression that Ron & Fez did not respect him or like him (as evidenced by their, and most of the callers, glee when he lost to Rory Hamptons). Now we are faced with the current situation.  The era of “the Dave show”.   The listener, who is just that, a “listener”, is forced to deal with a situation that, in the past one year, the Ron & Fez show has changed, and perhaps not for the best.   The show has become more and more (one could say mostly) “Message Board” centric and clique-ish.  There has become a caste-system of listeners.  And a person born of the message boards now has management control of this show the listener has loved for almost all of the 21st century.  What is the average listener to do?  I read this board, daily.  I have no idea who Dave is talking about during “board gossip”. Our “comedy pyramids” disappeared not long after his arrival.  We were told it was because of “hayseeds” who didn’t “get it” maaaaaaan.  But we are served up heaping helpings of base, moronic, over-the-top antics from Dave.  What is one to think? Dave lacks believability.  I first heard, in 2003, Ron tell the story about seeing a band playing on a rooftop while he was walking in New York.  He recently told it again, 4 years later, and he told it exactly the same way. Whether it was true or not, it was 100% believable.    Dave lies. A lot.   His stories lack any sort of credibility or even creativity.  Each day its, “What can I say today for microphone time”. Dave could not keep his story straight about his landlord’s son from last night to this afternoon. Last night: “They don’

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 10:12 AM

thats  better

jetdog

03-09-2007, 10:12 AM

So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now?

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 10:13 AM

no one cares.

drjoek

03-09-2007, 10:18 AM

Isn't it funny how Dave is Mr "lets keep it all Positive" Until it comes to disagreeing with him and his opinion? Then he's me Pit Bull em. Stay positive as long as its his way!!!!

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:18 AM

douggrasso wrote: no one cares. I didnt presume to speak for everyone. But thank you for for succinct claification of the thoughts of every person.  Perhaps someday I'll be blessed with the abiltiy to read everyones thoughts instantly and simultaneously.Thank you for putting me in my place.

booster11373

03-09-2007, 10:18 AM

either enjoy the show as it is now, The show is always changing, I think real fans have come to understand this, or get a time machine

booster11373

03-09-2007, 10:19 AM

after rereading your post, you should take your half assed analysis and go away!

Tenbatsuzen

03-09-2007, 10:20 AM

Bored, Billy and Dave hold the EXACT same position on the show - Associate Producer/Call Screener.

cupcakelove

03-09-2007, 10:20 AM

ESD army attack!!@

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:21 AM

jetdog wrote: So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now?  I'm not sure how one jumps to that conclusion. I wish neither harm nor annoyance to Dave.  I actually applaud him for having the ability to take something and making it his own. Unfortunately he is destroying something i have loved for years in the process.

JPMNICK

03-09-2007, 10:22 AM

I liked how he took Board Gossip and changed it to Bored Gossip. That is witty.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:23 AM

booster11373 wrote: either enjoy the show as it is now, The show is always changing, I think real fans have come to understand this, or get a time machine   booster11373 wrote: after rereading your post, you should take your half assed analysis and go away! So you commented on the post before reading the post. Does your knee jerk like that when driving too?  That could be dangerous.

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 10:24 AM

BoredGossip wrote: douggrasso wrote: no one cares. I didnt presume to speak for everyone. But thank you for for succinct claification of the thoughts of every person.  Perhaps someday I'll be blessed with the abiltiy to read everyones thoughts instantly and simultaneously.Thank you for putting me in my place. you're welcome.

jetdog

03-09-2007, 10:24 AM

BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now? I'm not sure how one jumps to that conclusion. I wish neither harm nor annoyance to Dave. I actually applaud him for having the ability to take something and making it his own. Unfortunately he is destroying something i have loved for years in the process. I was actually talking about you,  and alluding to Dave's rant this morning.

Dash77

03-09-2007, 10:24 AM

What's your Point ?

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:25 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Bored, Billy and Dave hold the EXACT same position on the show - Associate Producer/Call Screener.  Yes, but compare mic time

SinA

03-09-2007, 10:25 AM

most of the people on this board are here because we listen to a particular radio show, but the board could exist without it.   the show brought us here, but we can talk about boobs, music and wrestling from now on if we didn't have the show.new posters who are new listeners: A-O-K, jump in and we'll help you catch on to the bits.long-time listeners but new posters: don't expect special treatment because you remember some old bit.  you still have to get to know people and we have to get to know you.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:26 AM

JPMNICK wrote: I liked how he took Board Gossip and changed it to Bored Gossip. That is witty.  And true.

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 10:29 AM

i'd like to thank my good budday death metal moe before i dust this baby off for you boredgossip....<img src="http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/douggrasso/ESDBomb.jpg" border="0" width="650" height="530" />

This message was edited by douggrasso on 3-9-07 @ 2:29 PM

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:29 AM

jetdog wrote: BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now? I'm not sure how one jumps to that conclusion. I wish neither harm nor annoyance to Dave. I actually applaud him for having the ability to take something and making it his own. Unfortunately he is destroying something i have loved for years in the process. I was actually talking about you, and alluding to Dave's rant this morning.   So that is how one is supposed to deal with someone who writes something you disagree with. Ostricize and persecute.  I'll make a mental note of that for the future.  Thanks!

drjoek

03-09-2007, 10:29 AM

BoredGossip wrote: Just because .......I miss Ron & Fez.  Deeply. So what your saying is that East side Dave Sucks @ Life??

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 10:30 AM

BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now? I'm not sure how one jumps to that conclusion. I wish neither harm nor annoyance to Dave. I actually applaud him for having the ability to take something and making it his own. Unfortunately he is destroying something i have loved for years in the process.I was actually talking about you, and alluding to Dave's rant this morning.   So that is how one is supposed to deal with someone who writes something you disagree with. Ostricize and persecute.  I'll make a mental note of that for the future.  Thanks! and allow me to speak for everyone again when i say, you're welcome again!

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 10:31 AM

BoredGossip wrote: Just because someone is new to posting or a new member here, does not necessarily mean that they are new to listening to the Ron & Fez show.Nobody ever said that was the case. Perhaps these posters are long time listeners and have been loyal fans for multiple years.  I know in my case I have been a constant listener and R&F fan since early 2001. By “constant” I mean listened on WNEW, through WJFK, To XM.  I have laughed with them when they forced Al Dukes to eat ham and I've cried with them when they made it into work the day the towers came down so that they could give all of us a chance to vent.  I know that I have always appreciated the combination of funny, serious, silly, realness and intellectual stimulation. It was rarely stupid, and hardly ever fake. Whenever there was something (topic, character, personality...) that annoyed a certain amount of the listeners, one always endured because it rarely took up more than a quarter of any show and certainly didn’t monopolize days on end worth of shows.   Take, for example, when Billy went AWOL. Throughout the ordeal, it would be brought up, talked about, laughed about and then moved on from each day.One could also take solace in the fact that if they couldn't stand a member of the show at the time, the member himself was always trying to cultivate a career and one day would move up and/or out. Rarely did the annoying personality have actual "control" over the show. Take for example, again, Billy and Al Dukes.  I'm sure Billy annoyed many people, but he did not appear, in practice or title, to have broad management responsibility over content.  You knew Ron and Fez liked him, and even if you didn’t like him, you knew that he would have his little moment in the spotlight and graciously step offstage to let the show continue.  Al Dukes, on the other hand, had a title of responsibility. However, this was mitigated because we got the impression that Ron & Fez did not respect him or like him (as evidenced by their, and most of the callers, glee when he lost to Rory Hamptons). I think your assessment is pretty off.  The only staff member who was clearly trying to cultivate a career apart from the Ron & Fez Show is Al Dukes, who made his corporate aspirations clear.  Every single other member of the WNEW staff was forced out because WJFK decided not to keep any of those guys.  Other people like Harry Elvis and Wonderboy in his second stint as producer, attempted to stick with the show, but seemed to be broken down by the experience.  I also don't get your point about producers having management responsibility over content.  The producers have always had largely the same role.  Dave might have more responsibility than prior producers only because the staff is so much smaller now and because he and Earl are producing two shows.  That doesn't have anything to do with Dave as an individual.[quote] Now we are faced with the current situation.  The era of “the Dave show”.   The listener, who is just that, a “listener”, is forced to deal with a situation that, in the past one year, the Ron & Fez show has changed, and perhaps not for the best.   The show has become more and more (one could say mostly) “Message Board” centric and clique-ish.  There has become a caste-system of listeners.  And a person born of the message boards now has management control of this show the listener h

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:31 AM

Dash77 wrote: What's your Point ? Comments were made today that new posters to the message boards who were negative on Dave were new listeners.  I was refuting that claim.  Al least in my case.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:33 AM

drjoek wrote: BoredGossip wrote: Just because .......I miss Ron & Fez. Deeply. So what your saying is that East side Dave Sucks @ Life?? No.  Not at all.  I'm saying he sucks at the Ron and Fez show.

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 10:35 AM

BoredGossip wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Bored, Billy and Dave hold the EXACT same position on the show - Associate Producer/Call Screener.  Yes, but compare mic time Dave most likely has more mic time because:a) it's a much smaller staff than the WNEW days, so there are fewer people to go to.b) Fez at times hasn't been 100% since his heart attack and they've had to rely on Dave.c) Dave is stronger on mic than Earl.But largely, the staff has always gotten a lot of mic time on the show.  You don't like it as much now because you don't like the staff member getting the attention.

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 10:37 AM

BoredGossip wrote: Dash77 wrote: What's your Point ?  Comments were made today that new posters to the message boards who were negative on Dave were new listeners.  I was refuting that claim.  Al least in my case. No, the real problem is people who feel the need to sign up to a message board just to complain about the show.  Speaking of which, hey there.

jetdog

03-09-2007, 10:38 AM

BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now? I'm not sure how one jumps to that conclusion. I wish neither harm nor annoyance to Dave. I actually applaud him for having the ability to take something and making it his own. Unfortunately he is destroying something i have loved for years in the process. I was actually talking about you, and alluding to Dave's rant this morning.   So that is how one is supposed to deal with someone who writes something you disagree with. Ostricize and persecute. I'll make a mental note of that for the future. Thanks!  it was joke, based on something that was talked about on the show this morning. douchebag.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:38 AM

mikeyboy wrote:  I think you're trying too hard to get some attention from Dave or from the show.  Mikeyboy.  I respect you.  Always have.  I appreciate your comments and accept that most in here will feel Im wrong.  However, please do not ever think that my motive is to attract attention of the show or Dave.  Its just not true.

booster11373

03-09-2007, 10:39 AM

BoredGossip wrote: booster11373 wrote: either enjoy the show as it is now, The show is always changing, I think real fans have come to understand this, or get a time machine   booster11373 wrote: after rereading your post, you should take your half assed analysis and go away! So you commented on the post before reading the post. Does your knee jerk like that when driving too?  That could be dangerous. It comes in handy when I ride a bike

cupcakelove

03-09-2007, 10:40 AM

booster11373 wrote: BoredGossip wrote: booster11373 wrote: either enjoy the show as it is now, The show is always changing, I think real fans have come to understand this, or get a time machine   booster11373 wrote: after rereading your post, you should take your half assed analysis and go away! So you commented on the post before reading the post. Does your knee jerk like that when driving too? That could be dangerous. It comes in handy when I ride a bike How do you post from your bike?

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:41 AM

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:45 AM

mikeyboy wrote: BoredGossip wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Bored, Billy and Dave hold the EXACT same position on the show - Associate Producer/Call Screener.  Yes, but compare mic time Dave most likely has more mic time because:a) it's a much smaller staff than the WNEW days, so there are fewer people to go to.b) Fez at times hasn't been 100% since his heart attack and they've had to rely on Dave.c) Dave is stronger on mic than Earl.But largely, the staff has always gotten a lot of mic time on the show. You don't like it as much now because you don't like the staff member getting the attention. Now I dont know Dave.  I ve never met hm.  So my only experience to draw on why i don't like him is the time he is on air.  So if there is no other area in which i am exposed to him, that is where I am drawing my opinion of him from.  I do not dislike him personally.  My opinion, which is just that, my opinion, is based on on air performance. My post was motivated because of the impression put out there that people who dont like dave are not loyal listeners.

ralphbxny

03-09-2007, 10:48 AM

BoredGossip wrote: Dash77 wrote: What's your Point ?  Comments were made today that new posters to the message boards who were negative on Dave were new listeners.  I was refuting that claim.  Al least in my case. I still agree with dash....your point is useless.

EliSnow

03-09-2007, 10:51 AM

BoredGossip wrote:  Now I dont know Dave.  I ve never met hm.  So my only experience to draw on why i don't like him is the time he is on air.  So if there is no other area in which i am exposed to him, that is where I am drawing my opinion of him from. I do not dislike him personally.  My opinion, which is just that, my opinion, is based on on air performance. But then you should have understood that a lot of your assumptions.have no foundation.  As listeners (myself included), we can't assume we know who necessarily has what power on the show or what is happening behind the scenes etc.  The show often has outright bits (the MNR thing) or exaggerates real life things (the incompetence of the producers) to be funny.   Thus, if our only information about the show is what we hear, than we don't know the truth about what is really happening behind the scenes.  But much of your initial post is based on your assumptions that are based on on-air discussions.  If you don't like the character, fine.  But don't make assumptions on Dave's power v. Billy's, etc.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 10:59 AM

EliSnow wrote: BoredGossip wrote: Now I dont know Dave. I ve never met hm. So my only experience to draw on why i don't like him is the time he is on air. So if there is no other area in which i am exposed to him, that is where I am drawing my opinion of him from. I do not dislike him personally. My opinion, which is just that, my opinion, is based on on air performance. But then you should have understood that a lot of your assumptions.have no foundation. As listeners (myself included), we can't assume we know who necessarily has what power on the show or what is happening behind the scenes etc. The show often has outright bits (the MNR thing) or exaggerates real life things (the incompetence of the producers) to be funny. Thus, if our only information about the show is what we hear, than we don't know the truth about what is really happening behind the scenes. But much of your initial post is based on your assumptions that are based on on-air discussions. If you don't like the character, fine. But don't make assumptions on Dave's power v. Billy's, etc. Please re-read these two paragraphs (below) and notice the "did not appear" & "we got the impression".  I was commenting wholly on "on air" happenings" and never once said that they were actual facts of "behind the scenes".  Im referring to the impression."One could also take solace in the fact that if they couldn't stand a member of the show at the time, the member himself was always trying to cultivate a career and one day would move up and/or out. Rarely did the annoying personality have actual "control" over the show. Take for example, again, Billy and Al Dukes.  I'm sure Billy annoyed many people, but he did not appear, in practice or title, to have broad management responsibility over content.  You knew Ron and Fez liked him, and even if you didn’t like him, you knew that he would have his little moment in the spotlight and graciously step offstage to let the show continue.   Al Dukes, on the other hand, had a title of responsibility. However, this was mitigated because we got the impression that Ron & Fez did not respect him or like him (as evidenced by their, and most of the callers, glee when he lost to Rory Hamptons)."

FezsAssistant

03-09-2007, 11:07 AM

Dave said there are no spot checks on the air last night, then when he got home last night he found slurpee's, etc and talked about it today.  Your prosecution has holes in it.

EliSnow

03-09-2007, 11:14 AM

BoredGossip wrote: EliSnow wrote: BoredGossip wrote: Now I dont know Dave. I ve never met hm. So my only experience to draw on why i don't like him is the time he is on air. So if there is no other area in which i am exposed to him, that is where I am drawing my opinion of him from. I do not dislike him personally. My opinion, which is just that, my opinion, is based on on air performance. But then you should have understood that a lot of your assumptions.have no foundation. As listeners (myself included), we can't assume we know who necessarily has what power on the show or what is happening behind the scenes etc. The show often has outright bits (the MNR thing) or exaggerates real life things (the incompetence of the producers) to be funny. Thus, if our only information about the show is what we hear, than we don't know the truth about what is really happening behind the scenes. But much of your initial post is based on your assumptions that are based on on-air discussions. If you don't like the character, fine. But don't make assumptions on Dave's power v. Billy's, etc. Please re-read these two paragraphs (below) and notice the "did not appear" & "we got the impression".  I was commenting wholly on "on air" happenings" and never once said that they were actual facts of "behind the scenes".  Im referring to the impression.But that's my point.  You have this opinion based upon what "appears" to happen on the show or an impression based on the on air happenings.  But as a long time listener, you have to know that what happens on air is not necessarily the truth.   So who care if Billy did not appear to have broad management power and that Dave appears to have such power.  Either way, it's an illusion, and makes any assumptions faulty.Moreover, you did make assumptions about actual facts behind the scenes:The problem is that, unlike Billy, Dave is in a position of power on the show.  And unlike Al Dukes, Dave has no desire to better his career (except to take Earl’s spot) and move on from the show.  This is a direct statement about Dave's power v. Billy's.  You did not limit by saying "it appears" etc.  Really, you didn't need to because it's clear that this statement is based on assumptions you are making based on what is discussed on air.  Again, as mikeyboy's replies demonstrated,  this assumption is false.  You also said:  Our “comedy pyramids” disappeared not long after his arrival.  We were told it was because of “hayseeds” who didn’t “get it” maaaaaaan.  But we are served up heaping helpings of base, moronic, over-the-top antics from Dave.  What is one to think?You're essentially stating that we don't have comedy pyramids because of Dave, and he's decided to make his antics happen more than that.  What's your basis for that at all.And again:The unfortunate thing is that with Dave at the helm, the show has moved away from entertaining the broadcast audience to entertaining only the broadband audience. <

drjoek

03-09-2007, 11:24 AM

EliSnow wrote: what one is to think.  The show is called the Ron & Fez show.  They are the masters of the show's content.  If Dave is getting air time, it's because R&F are good with giving him air time.  If they didn't want him on the air, they'd tell him to stay out of the room.  They don't, and are the ones that bring up the Dave stories, etc.  So what is one to think?  Simple:  Ron and Fez decided comedy pyramids aren't workinng on XM.  So they don't do them.  They do think Dave's schtick works.  Now, that's my assumption, but I can't see how Dave would be able to do what he does without R&F's consent.Maybe that is the bone of contention here. Do some people enjoy Daves schtick or not. Some may long for more Dave. Some may long for Less , MUCH less Dave. My personal opinion is Less Dave, smaller dosesMy reason I find we don't get enough FEZZIE with all the Dave. Dave is fine but I would like a little less. Ron will always be the ring leader. Fez seems to take too much of a back seat to the Dave stuff. As an aside ESD sure is getting awfully full of himself. Thats my opinion I could be wrong (Dennis Miller)

moochcassidy

03-09-2007, 11:26 AM

i like <img src="http://www.homeeconomiser.com/Tips%20Images/Yogurt.jpg" border="0" width="182" height="243" />

Tenbatsuzen

03-09-2007, 11:28 AM

Refresh my memory... didn't Ron and Fez just sell out the hard rock based completely on a schtick and bit that Dave set up?I mean, I could be crazy, but I don't remember it being billed as Bobby Pantera's Karaoke and Z-level Indy WrestleFest.

EliSnow

03-09-2007, 11:29 AM

drjoek wrote: EliSnow wrote: what one is to think.  The show is called the Ron & Fez show.  They are the masters of the show's content.  If Dave is getting air time, it's because R&F are good with giving him air time.  If they didn't want him on the air, they'd tell him to stay out of the room.  They don't, and are the ones that bring up the Dave stories, etc.  So what is one to think?  Simple:  Ron and Fez decided comedy pyramids aren't workinng on XM.  So they don't do them.  They do think Dave's schtick works.  Now, that's my assumption, but I can't see how Dave would be able to do what he does without R&F's consent.Maybe that is the bone of contention here. Do some people enjoy Daves schtick or not. Some may long for more Dave. Some may long for Less , MUCH less Dave. My personal opinion is Less Dave, smaller dosesMy reason I find we don't get enough FEZZIE with all the Dave. Dave is fine but I would like a little less. Ron will always be the ring leader. Fez seems to take too much of a back seat to the Dave stuff. Did you ever think there's a valid reason for that?  Maybe Fez needs the time off because of his health or he's dealing with things, etc.  If Fez is taking a back seat, it's in all likelihood his and Ronnie's decision, not Dave's.

EliSnow

03-09-2007, 11:30 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Refresh my memory... didn't Ron and Fez just sell out the hard rock based completely on a schtick and bit that Dave set up?I mean, I could be crazy, but I don't remember it being billed as Bobby Pantera's Karaoke and Z-level Indy WrestleFest.I've heard that's actually the next event.

drjoek

03-09-2007, 11:30 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Refresh my memory... didn't Ron and Fez just sell out the hard rock based completely on a schtick and bit that Dave set up?I mean, I could be crazy, but I don't remember it being billed as Bobby Pantera's Karaoke and Z-level Indy WrestleFest. If by selling out the Hard Rock you mean getting 800 people to show up for a Free Show I guess I'd say yeah

ppanda

03-09-2007, 11:35 AM

These posts are way too long- is there a cliffs notes version available?Why are we analyzing this so much?Either Listen and EnjoyorDont listen and do something else that you enjoy. PS- The FreeFM show does have comedy pyramids from time to time- just without the "comedy pyramid, comedy pyramid" drop

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 11:41 AM

drjoek wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Refresh my memory... didn't Ron and Fez just sell out the hard rock based completely on a schtick and bit that Dave set up?I mean, I could be crazy, but I don't remember it being billed as Bobby Pantera's Karaoke and Z-level Indy WrestleFest. If by selling out the Hard Rock you mean getting 800 people to show up for a Free Show I guess I'd say yeahRegardless, that's an extremely impressive number to get to attend.  The no-show percentage for giving free tickets out is often close to 50%.  The number of no-shows for the Big Ash Bash was a tint fraction of that.  Also, given the number of requests that continued to come in after the cut-off, they could have added many, many more people if they had a larger venue

drjoek

03-09-2007, 12:05 PM

EliSnow wrote: drjoek wrote: EliSnow wrote: what one is to think.  The show is called the Ron & Fez show.  They are the masters of the show's content.  If Dave is getting air time, it's because R&F are good with giving him air time.  If they didn't want him on the air, they'd tell him to stay out of the room.  They don't, and are the ones that bring up the Dave stories, etc.  So what is one to think?  Simple:  Ron and Fez decided comedy pyramids aren't workinng on XM.  So they don't do them.  They do think Dave's schtick works.  Now, that's my assumption, but I can't see how Dave would be able to do what he does without R&F's consent.Maybe that is the bone of contention here. Do some people enjoy Daves schtick or not. Some may long for more Dave. Some may long for Less , MUCH less Dave. My personal opinion is Less Dave, smaller dosesMy reason I find we don't get enough FEZZIE with all the Dave. Dave is fine but I would like a little less. Ron will always be the ring leader. Fez seems to take too much of a back seat to the Dave stuff. Did you ever think there's a valid reason for that?  Maybe Fez needs the time off because of his health or he's dealing with things, etc.  If Fez is taking a back seat, it's in all likelihood his and Ronnie's decision, not Dave's.Oh I agree 100% I'm not even taking a stand here I m just stating what I think was the source of some of the discontent. As I stated earlier. The contentious issue is more Dave or less Dave. Am I the only one who thinks this reminds them of an arguement I will have with my wife now and again. We will argue for  argument sake.

booster11373

03-09-2007, 12:19 PM

New listeners old listeners new posters old posters regardlessIm sick of every ass wipe with a keyboard who finds some fault with the show coming here, Lately this board has been awash in negitive noobs telling us how the show sucks and they dont like so and so I listen to the show everyday, do I like everything I hear all the time? mostly, I do on those rare occasions there is something I dont like, I change the channel, fast forward etc.What I dont feel the need to do, is come here and share my displeasure with RF.net a place by its very name is supposed to be supportive of Ron and Fez(and is)I cant for the life of me understand someone who signs up here and in their first post's, decide to bash the show

FezPaul

03-09-2007, 12:27 PM

I'm a "Big Ass Veteran" but I had never heard of Ron & Fez until they came to XM.So there.  <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

underdog

03-09-2007, 12:32 PM

BoredGossip wrote: I miss Ron & Fez. Deeply.  You miss the old Ron & Fez. Shows grow and move on, something this show has done. Maybe its not for you anymore. But people complaining that, "the show is different than how it used to be!" stink. It happens with O&A constantly, too. The show grew up, you didn't. Just move on. Stop trying to hold back the show to fit your wants.

King Hippos Bandaid

03-09-2007, 12:37 PM

Dave  is Great for the Show If he says doesnt like the Site, it is probably a work, because this site promotes where he  works. I dont care what he thinks of my posts, I want him to be funny and  Make  Me  Larf  with  or  at him .

Death Metal Moe

03-09-2007, 12:38 PM

You may not be a new listener Boredgossip, but you sure act like it.  When have Ron and Fez EVER bowed to popular opinion when deciding what to put on the radio?  They haven't.You came onto a fanboard to complain about the direction of the show.  Don't be surprised when we disagree, and when Ron and Fez continue to do whatever the fuck they feel like doing.

Dougie Brootal

03-09-2007, 12:38 PM

PLEASE STOP ACCEPTING NEW POSTER MIKEY! PLEASE!!! and to you, boredcocksip, or whatever your name is, dave works for ron and fez. ron and fez are daves bosses. if ron and fez thought dave wasnt doing a good job, he would go the way of harry elvis and your precious billy staples ( no offense billy, i love you man) and he wouldnt be working for ron and fez any longer. so please go back to the JV and Elvis messagboard that put you up to this cherade and never post here again.

BLZBUBBA

03-09-2007, 12:54 PM

I had no major problem with Eastside till this morning.  And if you guys are saying Dave should be dictating who posts and who doesn't that's your opinion.  I'm 100% for free speech and what Dave was advocating runs counter to that.  Power is derived from both postive and negative...At least that's what METALLICA said.  And they also said Axl Rose's name should be Axl Pose.  But anyway...Running to Ron with negative posts in hand is something I'd expect from "Smithers" of THE SIMPSONS.  SIR LOOK!  May I read these negative posts to you in front of a roaring fire while we share a bottle of wine?What else?  Is he lurking in the XM shitter with a pad and pen or recorder?  I've heard tales along those lines as well.  On such and such date Earl said this....I would like to hear what "Soundboard Dave"  has to say on this.  I bet it would be something like... "There are four dicks in my mouth and there's always room for five. OARF...OARF...OARF...OARF!"

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 12:57 PM

We all know Roberto is the brains of the team.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 12:57 PM

douggrasso wrote: PLEASE STOP ACCEPTING NEW POSTER MIKEY! PLEASE!!! and to you, boredcocksip, or whatever your name is, dave works for ron and fez. ron and fez are daves bosses. if ron and fez thought dave wasnt doing a good job, he would go the way of harry elvis and your precious billy staples ( no offense billy, i love you man) and he wouldnt be working for ron and fez any longer. so please go back to the JV and Elvis messagboard that put you up to this cherade and never post here again. um, i actually didnt like Billy... Just sain'

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 12:58 PM

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 01:01 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: You may not be a new listener Boredgossip, but you sure act like it. When have Ron and Fez EVER bowed to popular opinion when deciding what to put on the radio? They haven't.You came onto a fanboard to complain about the direction of the show. Don't be surprised when we disagree, and when Ron and Fez continue to do whatever the fuck they feel like doing. No, and I'll repeat it again.  I came to a message board to refute the assertion that someome who is a noob to posting on a board is not a noob to listening to the show.

lleeder

03-09-2007, 01:03 PM

The only problem I have with Dave is he gives Ron negative threads without reading the posts that follow the first post. Today he told Ron "Look how many people responded to this thread". Did he read those responses? If he did he would see we all bashed the guy or sarcasticly responded to him. Dave needs a reading comprehension course. Other than that I like the guy.Mikeyboy shut his ass down nicely today. Nice work Mikey.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 01:10 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: You may not be a new listener Boredgossip, but you sure act like it. When have Ron and Fez EVER bowed to popular opinion when deciding what to put on the radio? They haven't.You came onto a fanboard to complain about the direction of the show. Don't be surprised when we disagree, and when Ron and Fez continue to do whatever the fuck they feel like doing. Who's surprised?  Not me.  And Im sure I never asserted I was.  So, sir, are you saying that its the popular opinion that Dave ruins the show?  Wow!!  Thats amazing!   Thanks for the support!Long live Death Metal Moe!

Sheeplovr

03-09-2007, 01:22 PM

east side drive brings the party its not a party without him

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 01:30 PM

Bestinshow wrote: We all know Roberto is the brains of the team.Roberto's head was destroyed at the Big Ass Bash.

lleeder

03-09-2007, 01:32 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Bestinshow wrote: We all know Roberto is the brains of the team.Roberto's head was destroyed at the Big Ass Bash.Yeah right, so was Chucky's<img src="http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/criminal_mind/sexual_assault/alison_ripper_rapist/Chucky,-Child's-Play150.jpg" border="0" width="150" height="141" />

AngelAmy

03-09-2007, 01:32 PM

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 01:43 PM

mikeyboy wrote:Bestinshow wrote: We all know Roberto is the brains of the team.Roberto's head was destroyed at the Big Ass Bash. It's all beginning to make sense now.  

This message was edited by Bestinshow on 3-9-07 @ 5:44 PM

led37zep

03-09-2007, 01:49 PM

Who can be mad at a board that posts the pictures of the worlds cutest kittens?  Not even East Side Dave.http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/catpicformom.jpg AWWWWWWWWWWWWW

ralphbxny

03-09-2007, 01:49 PM

Its all a gag...I hope.Mikeyboy would never leave....would you.....

drjoek

03-09-2007, 01:54 PM

Bored GossipKeep posting and you can become a Dot Commandomaybe by the end of the day

Gvac

03-09-2007, 01:55 PM

Welcome to RonFez.Net BoredGossip.  You sound like a long time, passionate fan and I like that.  I also like the fact that you weren't afraid to post a somewhat unpopular opinion.  I apologize for some of my fellow board members who felt the need to attack you personally instead of having an intelligent, adult debate.  In their defense, however, there have been a ton of people who sign up as new posters merely to bash Dave.  I'm willing to bet that there are over 75 "Dave sucks" threads buried somewhere on this board.  It gets tiring after awhile, so try to look at it from some of the veterans' points of view. As far as Dave being on the air an inordinate amount of time, I think there are several contributing factors, the least of which isn't that Ron and Fez see some kind of talent there and are trying to hone the rough edges by letting him put himself out there on a daily basis.  I understand your frustration, but hang in there.  You're a long time fan; you should know by now that Ron and Fez never disappoint.

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 01:56 PM

BoredGossip wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: You may not be a new listener Boredgossip, but you sure act like it. When have Ron and Fez EVER bowed to popular opinion when deciding what to put on the radio? They haven't.You came onto a fanboard to complain about the direction of the show. Don't be surprised when we disagree, and when Ron and Fez continue to do whatever the fuck they feel like doing. Who's surprised?  Not me.  And Im sure I never asserted I was.  So, sir, are you saying that its the popular opinion that Dave ruins the show?  Wow!!  Thats amazing!   Thanks for the support!Long live Death Metal Moe! I hear what you're saying, man.Personally, I like Dave on the show, but there have been plenty of other things in the past that drove me up the wall.  But at the end of the day, the show as a whole has always been outstanding, so I can overlook certain parts that I may not be a fan of.  I know Dave is on a lot, but he's not the whole show.  He's just the latest in a long line of polarizing show people.

drjoek

03-09-2007, 01:59 PM

led37zep wrote: Who can be mad at a board that posts the pictures of the worlds cutest kittens?  Not even East Side Dave.<img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/catpicformom.jpg" border="0" width="320" height="240" /> AWWWWWWWWWWWWW Im done with negativity after seeeing that !!!!!

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 02:02 PM

drjoek wrote:  Bored GossipKeep posting and you can become a Dot Commandomaybe by the end of the day From your lips to God's ears...

K.C.

03-09-2007, 02:03 PM

Dave is kind of right...but it comes with the territory. Since there's no official Ron & Fez site, RonFez.net is pretty much the first site anyone who's new to the show sees if they search for Ron & Fez, hence all the new angry people. That said, I guarantee you if Mikeyboy offered to mod Dave tomorrow, he'd immediately accept and turn his back on FBA.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 02:04 PM

Gvac wrote: Welcome to RonFez.Net BoredGossip. You sound like a long time, passionate fan and I like that. I also like the fact that you weren't afraid to post a somewhat unpopular opinion. I apologize for some of my fellow board members who felt the need to attack you personally instead of having an intelligent, adult debate. In their defense, however, there have been a ton of people who sign up as new posters merely to bash Dave. I'm willing to bet that there are over 75 "Dave sucks" threads buried somewhere on this board. It gets tiring after awhile, so try to look at it from some of the veterans' points of view. As far as Dave being on the air an inordinate amount of time, I think there are several contributing factors, the least of which isn't that Ron and Fez see some kind of talent there and are trying to hone the rough edges by letting him put himself out there on a daily basis. I understand your frustration, but hang in there. You're a long time fan; you should know by now that Ron and Fez never disappoint.  Patient.  Fair.  Understanding.  You, sir, have the perfect avatar pic.

Bestinshow

03-09-2007, 02:15 PM

Dave obviously only says that stuff to get a rise out of us for fun. So I say we do it back to himRed headed bastard

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 02:20 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: I hear what you're saying, man.Personally, I like Dave on the show, but there have been plenty of other things in the past that drove me up the wall. But at the end of the day, the show as a whole has always been outstanding, so I can overlook certain parts that I may not be a fan of. I know Dave is on a lot, but he's not the whole show. He's just the latest in a long line of polarizing show people. I actually LOVED that there are polarizing figures. Always have. Confilt sometimes breeds captivating drama. For example, I would CRINGE when Wonderboy would come on. But he did his 15-20 minutes, then exited the stage. I didnt think he added anything really entertaining to the show, but I never got TIRED OF HIM. I also was not big fan of Billy. But he had enough smarts that when he pulled off something funny/interesting, he wouldn't overstay his welcome. He's get the hell out of the studio. leaving us wanting a little more.To me, Dave's funny moments are drowned in a sea of of his own idiocy. 

This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-9-07 @ 6:21 PM

Fat_Sunny

03-09-2007, 02:38 PM

BoredGossip wrote: Gvac wrote: Welcome to RonFez.Net BoredGossip. You sound like a long time, passionate fan and I like that. I also like the fact that you weren't afraid to post a somewhat unpopular opinion. I apologize for some of my fellow board members who felt the need to attack you personally instead of having an intelligent, adult debate. In their defense, however, there have been a ton of people who sign up as new posters merely to bash Dave. I'm willing to bet that there are over 75 "Dave sucks" threads buried somewhere on this board. It gets tiring after awhile, so try to look at it from some of the veterans' points of view. As far as Dave being on the air an inordinate amount of time, I think there are several contributing factors, the least of which isn't that Ron and Fez see some kind of talent there and are trying to hone the rough edges by letting him put himself out there on a daily basis. I understand your frustration, but hang in there. You're a long time fan; you should know by now that Ron and Fez never disappoint.  Patient.  Fair.  Understanding.  You, sir, have the perfect avatar pic. You Got That Right!  Among The Weeds Of RonFez.Net, There Stand A Few Fair Flowers!**Geez, Fat Didn't Mean To Sound Like He Was At A Renaissance Fair!

patsopinion

03-09-2007, 03:02 PM

im glad we could all ban together and bash the deucheas of yesterday im allowed to say this as per the rules discuessed a previous thread fucking noobs

midwestjeff

03-09-2007, 03:14 PM

i hate to break everyone's perceptions, but i am a newb and i am positive. thanks for nothing jimmy norton. 

Team_Ramrod

03-09-2007, 03:32 PM

midwestjeff wrote: i hate to break everyone's perceptions, but i am a newb and i am positive. thanks for nothing jimmy norton.  mmmmm, no.Your tone of voice makes me think you're a sarcastic little prick.Perceptions still intact.

Team_Ramrod

03-09-2007, 03:39 PM

That's just mean. It's an absolutely horrible idea.

BoredGossip

03-09-2007, 05:15 PM

patsopinion wrote: im glad we could all ban together and bash the deucheas of yesterday im allowed to say this as per the rules discuessed a previous thread fucking noobs  I do not think Dave is a douche. (A douche is cleansing and refreshing...or so I've heard)

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 05:18 PM

patsopinion wrote: im glad we could all ban together and bash the deucheas of yesterday im allowed to say this as per the rules discuessed a previous thread fucking noobs Excuse me?  What thread?

mikeyboy

03-09-2007, 05:19 PM

The Midnight Ramrod wrote: midwestjeff wrote: i hate to break everyone's perceptions, but i am a newb and i am positive. thanks for nothing jimmy norton.  mmmmm, no.Your tone of voice makes me think you're a sarcastic little prick.Perceptions still intact.Dammit, Ramrod.  Didn't we just have this talk?  When you can hear the posts, it's just happening inside your head.

Planty

03-09-2007, 05:23 PM

Bored Gosip's posts are old and stale. Eastside's the best he will prevail.

zildjian361

03-09-2007, 07:03 PM

BoredGossip wrote: jetdog wrote: So I'm confused....are we supposed to "kill" this guy now?  I'm not sure how one jumps to that conclusion. I wish neither harm nor annoyance to Dave.  I actually applaud him for having the ability to take something and making it his own. Unfortunately he is destroying something i have loved for years in the process.        BG dont worry about the mad posters i can tell you know the show and that's what itt's all about<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" width="46" height="20" />

ruggedo

03-09-2007, 07:05 PM

How can you be a long time listener of this radio show and think that Ron & Fez dont control who's on the mic and how long they're on there? How can you be someone who says they get it, and then presume to tell the gentlemen with two radio shows,one in the #1 market in this country and the other a multinational show, what is good radio? You think they got here by not knowing? They were signed in NYC after Dave joined the show too,so your also saying that there is no one at CBS who understands what good radio is. ( that assumption about CBS might actually be true, but then this thread should be about blaming CBS) The kicker to the complaint that started this thread is that Bored is saying he knows more then Ron % Fez about running their show then they do. That if they just listened to him they would finally be able to do a good radio show,because only he knows what that is. If this complaint and this complaintant are any different then the stuff that the trolls have been bringing up around here, why are our rebuttals to it just the same? A well spoken troll is still a troll I'm afraid.

Yuppie_Scum

03-09-2007, 07:29 PM

FUCK IT ... it's ALL good.

spoon

03-09-2007, 10:10 PM

I say teach him a lesson by making him an uber mod!  ESD 13:27 baby! 

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 02:35 AM

ruggedo wrote: How can you be a long time listener of this radio show and think that Ron & Fez dont control who's on the mic and how long they're on there? How can you be someone who says they get it, and then presume to tell the gentlemen with two radio shows,one in the #1 market in this country and the other a multinational show, what is good radio? You think they got here by not knowing? They were signed in NYC after Dave joined the show too,so your also saying that there is no one at CBS who understands what good radio is. ( that assumption about CBS might actually be true, but then this thread should be about blaming CBS) The kicker to the complaint that started this thread is that Bored is saying he knows more then Ron % Fez about running their show then they do. That if they just listened to him they would finally be able to do a good radio show,because only he knows what that is. If this complaint and this complaintant are any different then the stuff that the trolls have been bringing up around here, why are our rebuttals to it just the same? A well spoken troll is still a troll I'm afraid.     My friend, I am aware that the initial posting and subsequent followups constitute quite a few words.  And actually reading all of them would be and is quite a burden.  However, should you one day, when your very busy schedule allows, take a moment to actually read what was posted you will see that the title of this thread is "New Member here Does not equal New Listener", followed by a lenghty post explaining my personal listening habits then futher adding why I feel the show has suffered as of late.  I never have, never will, state or imply that I know more about R&F about running their show.     Because of some grammar obstacles I am having difficulty following your thoughts here.  However, because I understood your first paragraph, but not the second, I can only assume that your post has evolved, as I've been told much like my favorite radio show has evolved, to a level where  everyone else probably understands whats going on, but I just dont get it anymore.   Afraid? I'm sorry, my intent was not to frighten you.  But I'm sure you are not unfamiliar with that feeling when confronted with reading large quantities of words.

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 02:37 AM

Planty wrote: Bored Gosip's posts are old and stale. Eastside's the best he will prevail. Yes.  Quite.  How could I have been so wrong.

Snacks

03-10-2007, 03:02 AM

I like the new poster BoredGossip. He doesnt get too personal and defends his opinions perfectly. Most important he doesnt take any shit. Keep posting and stay active my new friend, you may make things more interesting.

StupidGirlllll

03-10-2007, 03:09 AM

I know what you mean BoredGossip..the show is getting very clicky in regards to the board & the show more so than ever. I feel that some people on the board think they are better fans & better listeners & can explain every aspect of the show to a "newbie" that does not know as much as they think they do.

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 03:22 AM

Snacks wrote: I like the new poster BoredGossip. He doesnt get too personal and defends his opinions perfectly. Most important he doesnt take any shit. Keep posting and stay active my new friend, you may make things more interesting. In all fairness, I did call into question ruggedo's ability to read and comprehend, and to be easily frightened. That could be construed as a personal attack.  It was not. It was a commentary on society and the education system as a whole.  It is not his fault that he was allowed to graduate high school without the ability to read his diploma.   (OK, now THAT was a personal attack, and was meant only for demonstration purposes. Just beacuse someone can not read or write, does not mean they are illiterate) (hmmm, after consulting a dictionary, it turns out that is exactly what it means.) My bad.

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 03:35 AM

StupidGirlllll wrote: I know what you mean BoredGossip..the show is getting very clicky in regards to the board & the show more so than ever. I feel that some people on the board think they are better fans & better listeners & can explain every aspect of the show to a "newbie" that does not know as much as they think they do. It is not that they think are better fans or better listeners. They ARE better PEOPLE then your average listener. They are stonger, smarter, faster, better looking, groomed finer and more wealthy. They smell better, have lower cholesterol, have a better jobs, eat better food and make better love (in duration, quality and quantity). I submit, dare I say DEMAND that people of this calibre should be treated as exceptional, and not forced to deal with the rabel, and catered too as their position deserves. It is the least we sub-listeners can do. We should be ashamed of how poorly they are treated. 

This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 7:36 AM

Gvac

03-10-2007, 05:07 AM

BoredGossip wrote: StupidGirlllll wrote: I know what you mean BoredGossip..the show is getting very clicky in regards to the board & the show more so than ever. I feel that some people on the board think they are better fans & better listeners & can explain every aspect of the show to a "newbie" that does not know as much as they think they do. It is not that they think are better fans or better listeners. They ARE better PEOPLE then your average listener. They are stonger, smarter, faster, better looking, groomed finer and more wealthy. They smell better, have lower cholesterol, have a better jobs, eat better food and make better love (in duration, quality and quantity). I submit, dare I say DEMAND that people of this calibre should be treated as exceptional, and not forced to deal with the rabel, and catered too as their position deserves. It is the least we sub-listeners can do. We should be ashamed of how poorly they are treated. I can tell you've never been to a messageboard party.

Death Metal Moe

03-10-2007, 05:40 AM

Oh great, this dude is "Sign on later and respond individually to everyone" guy.It's not about you douche bag.I eagerly await your fucking color coded reply.

chasenblues

03-10-2007, 08:16 AM

people,people' in the words of that great black role model rodney king "can't we all just get along".<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" width="58" height="30" />

drjoek

03-10-2007, 01:07 PM

Lock this thread already

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 01:35 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh great, this dude is "Sign on later and respond individually to everyone" guy.It's not about you douche bag.I eagerly await your fucking color coded reply. You sir, are an enigma. If you do not want a response, why would you address me directly? However, since you are eager, here is my reply:  You have a construction error in your second line. I will assume you are not addressing my personal douche bag directly and didn’t misspell the word 'your' as in, "It's not about your douche bag".   Instead, I believe you tried to embarrass and/or ridicule me by comparing me to, and calling me a, douche bag. If that is the case, then your sentence should have read (note the comma placement), "It's not about you, douche bag". In case you need it used in a different sentence to fully comprehend the construction, here is one for you:   I’m not the one who inferred that the popular opinion was that Dave does not belong on the show, douche bag. You were*. *note your previous post. P.S. Since you wanted it color coded, I used a scheme that matched the bumper sticker on your car. 

This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 5:51 PM

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 01:50 PM

drjoek wrote: Lock this thread already    Here, here!  Total repression to all who deviate! We can’t have someone who doesn’t agree with us defending their positions!   So, what you're saying is that because I, someone new, has said something(s) you didn’t like and I have overstayed my welcome in your (and others) eyes, you want the thread stopped and me silenced.  hmmmmmm, I know there is a parallel here to be drawn to some topic at hand but I just cant quite put my finger on it. hmmmmmm

Tenbatsuzen

03-10-2007, 02:18 PM

BoredGossip wrote: drjoek wrote: Lock this thread already  Here, here! Total repression to all who deviate! We can’t have someone who doesn’t agree with us defending their positions! So, what you're saying is that because I, someone new, has said something(s) you didn’t like and I have overstayed my welcome in your (and others) eyes, you want the thread stopped and me silenced. hmmmmmm, I know there is a parallel here to be drawn to some topic at hand but I just cant quite put my finger on it. hmmmmmm  Can I ask you something? What do you hope to accomplish by posting this?  You can make a blog and say the same things.  You can email Ron directly and say the same things.  You are not unique or different, you're a broken record about the vocal minority who wants to bitch about Dave and the direction the show has gone. It's not 2002 anymore.  Accept and move on.

lleeder

03-10-2007, 02:25 PM

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 02:48 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BoredGossip wrote: drjoek wrote: Lock this thread already  Here, here! Total repression to all who deviate! We can’t have someone who doesn’t agree with us defending their positions! So, what you're saying is that because I, someone new, has said something(s) you didn’t like and I have overstayed my welcome in your (and others) eyes, you want the thread stopped and me silenced. hmmmmmm, I know there is a parallel here to be drawn to some topic at hand but I just cant quite put my finger on it. hmmmmmm  Can I ask you something? What do you hope to accomplish by posting this? You can make a blog and say the same things. You can email Ron directly and say the same things. You are not unique or different, you're a broken record about the vocal minority who wants to bitch about Dave and the direction the show has gone. It's not 2002 anymore. Accept and move on.  Why does it bother you so much that someone disagrees with you and is unwilling to succumb to your bullying? Maybe you are comfortable being a “yes-man” all your life. I am not. There is a problem with the show/community/fanbase et al. There have always been infighting and rancor among the fans, but it is undeniable that in the past year it has come to a boiling point. How many R&F message boards are there now? I don’t remember a time where callers & fans have displayed so much angst towards a personality. Please point me to a time when it was at such a fever pitch. The fact that I am not “unique or different”, as you say, is testament to the existence of a problem. Why is it that since this message board has been around a long time only now do so many feel so motivated to at least express their displeasure? “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” is a fallacy if relied upon for all circumstances, but sometimes, it is true.

This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 6:48 PM

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 02:50 PM

lleeder wrote: BoredGossip wrote: drjoek wrote: Lock this thread already   Here, here! Total repression to all who deviate! We can’t have someone who doesn’t agree with us defending their positions! So, what you're saying is that because I, someone new, has said something(s) you didn’t like and I have overstayed my welcome in your (and others) eyes, you want the thread stopped and me silenced. hmmmmmm, I know there is a parallel here to be drawn to some topic at hand but I just cant quite put my finger on it. hmmmmmm Whats the parallel please tell us oh smart one? Believe me, I'm not smart. Not by a long shot.  If you think I am, well, "in the land of the blind, the man with one eye...blah blah blah"

Tenbatsuzen

03-10-2007, 03:04 PM

BoredGossip wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: BoredGossip wrote: drjoek wrote: Lock this thread already  Here, here! Total repression to all who deviate! We can’t have someone who doesn’t agree with us defending their positions! So, what you're saying is that because I, someone new, has said something(s) you didn’t like and I have overstayed my welcome in your (and others) eyes, you want the thread stopped and me silenced. hmmmmmm, I know there is a parallel here to be drawn to some topic at hand but I just cant quite put my finger on it. hmmmmmm  Can I ask you something? What do you hope to accomplish by posting this? You can make a blog and say the same things. You can email Ron directly and say the same things. You are not unique or different, you're a broken record about the vocal minority who wants to bitch about Dave and the direction the show has gone. It's not 2002 anymore. Accept and move on.  Why does it bother you so much that someone disagrees with you and is unwilling to succumb to your bullying? Maybe you are comfortable being a “yes-man” all your life. I am not. There is a problem with the show/community/fanbase et al. There have always been infighting and rancor among the fans, but it is undeniable that in the past year it has come to a boiling point. How many R&F message boards are there now? I don’t remember a time where callers & fans have displayed so much angst towards a personality. Please point me to a time when it was at such a fever pitch. The fact that I am not “unique or different”, as you say, is testament to the existence of a problem. Why is it that since this message board has been around a long time only now do so many feel so motivated to at least express their displeasure? “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” is a fallacy if relied upon for all circumstances, but sometimes, it is true. This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 6:48 PM Are you kidding me?  Al Dukes was CONSTANTLY pissed on back in the day.  The only difference is that the community has grown exponentially between 2002 and now because of XM.  I am sure if R&F's total audience size was the same in 2001 as it was now, we'd have the same amount of Anti-Al posts as we do Anti-Dave threads.The reasons why there's so many different boards now is quite simple: There's a lot more egos involved, and it's a lot cheaper (and easier) to open up your own message board in 2007 than it was in 2002.  And besides which, what are you trying to say?  The fracturing of the Ron and Fez and O&A communities are because of Dave?  That's stupid.  The "big bang" of all the boards fracturing was FollowThisLogic's stunt with OA.com back in the day.  You still didn't answer my question.  You talk about the "rancor" that Dave has created, but you didn't say what you hoped to accomplish by posting this here when you could email Ron directly.  It's not like he hides his email address.  Hell, if you had half a brain, you could figure out how to email Dave directly.  In fact, you can even PM Dave.  But you had to post this publically, on a board that has no creative control over the show whatsoever.  So instead

Marc with a c

03-10-2007, 03:13 PM

Gvac wrote: BoredGossip wrote: StupidGirlllll wrote: I know what you mean BoredGossip..the show is getting very clicky in regards to the board & the show more so than ever. I feel that some people on the board think they are better fans & better listeners & can explain every aspect of the show to a "newbie" that does not know as much as they think they do. It is not that they think are better fans or better listeners. They ARE better PEOPLE then your average listener. They are stonger, smarter, faster, better looking, groomed finer and more wealthy. They smell better, have lower cholesterol, have a better jobs, eat better food and make better love (in duration, quality and quantity). I submit, dare I say DEMAND that people of this calibre should be treated as exceptional, and not forced to deal with the rabel, and catered too as their position deserves. It is the least we sub-listeners can do. We should be ashamed of how poorly they are treated.I can tell you've never been to a messageboard party.   or had sex with me

BoredGossip

03-10-2007, 04:12 PM

Are you kidding me? Al Dukes was CONSTANTLY pissed on back in the day. The only difference is that the community has grown exponentially between 2002 and now because of XM. I am sure if R&F's total audience size was the same in 2001 as it was now, we'd have the same amount of Anti-Al posts as we do Anti-Dave threads.The reasons why there's so many different boards now is quite simple: There's a lot more egos involved, and it's a lot cheaper (and easier) to open up your own message board in 2007 than it was in 2002. And besides which, what are you trying to say? The fracturing of the Ron and Fez and O&A communities are because of Dave? That's stupid. The "big bang" of all the boards fracturing was FollowThisLogic's stunt with OA.com back in the day.  You still didn't answer my question. You talk about the "rancor" that Dave has created, but you didn't say what you hoped to accomplish by posting this here when you could email Ron directly. It's not like he hides his email address. Hell, if you had half a brain, you could figure out how to email Dave directly. In fact, you can even PM Dave. But you had to post this publically, on a board that has no creative control over the show whatsoever.  So instead of using fancypants latin quotes to try and skirt the question, I ask again: What are you hoping to accomplish? To open an honest dialogue about getting rid of Dave? It's not going to happen, because if Ron had a problem with Dave, he would have put a stop to it. Fez and Earl runs the boards, both of which are in a position of power (as you like to put it) over Dave. If they didn't want Dave to be on the air, he wouldn't be. And also, please show me where I'm bullying? It seems to me that you're the one who's getting kind of personal.     If you read the original post through you will see that I addressed this.  The impression of Al given by the show was that he was not liked by the show.  It was easier to accept Al because the impressino was givien that the show was stuck with him and didnt like it.  It didnt appear that Al had personal sway.    I am just a listener not a "messagbe boarder" As just a listener, all I can speak to is what I hear/heard ont he radio. Which is that one rarely, heard another message board mentioned except for wackbag (a deciedly O&A-centric board).  I'm not saying there weren't others out there, but if there were, ther were rarely mentionon air.    What do I hope to accomplish? Nothing.  My life doesnt revolve around a radio show.  I have a couple days off because Im running a fever and decided to fill some time.  I'm sure Dave is a great guy to hang out with.  I'm sure he's charming and lovable and just a wonderful person to have as a friend.  But the virtual-wall-to-wall Dave show for 6 hours a day is too much.   I LOVE Vanilla Bean Ice Cream with Strawberries on top.  But if I was forced to eat nothing but that at every meal, I would get sick of it.  Anyone would.  MODERATION is the word of the day NOT ELIMINATION. Some of us just plain old listeners, didnt get a chance to know him or like him because he was CRAMMED down our throat.   Let us just take a taste, savor the moment and then decide.  Foce feeding only leaves a bad taste in our mouth. I cant WAIT to hear the wit that comes back at me for that last sentence. :)     You dont know

lleeder

03-10-2007, 04:24 PM

Vanilla bean is for queers.

Andomray

03-10-2007, 05:10 PM

If you read the original post through you will see that I addressed this.  The impression of Al given by the show was that he was not liked by the show.  It was easier to accept Al because the impressino was givien that the show was stuck with him and didnt like it.  It didnt appear that Al had personal sway.    I am just a listener not a "messagbe boarder" As just a listener, all I can speak to is what I hear/heard ont he radio. Which is that one rarely, heard another message board mentioned except for wackbag (a deciedly O&A-centric board).  I'm not saying there weren't others out there, but if there were, ther were rarely mentionon air.    What do I hope to accomplish? Nothing.  My life doesnt revolve around a radio show.  I have a couple days off because Im running a fever and decided to fill some time.  I'm sure Dave is a great guy to hang out with.  I'm sure he's charming and lovable and just a wonderful person to have as a friend.  But the virtual-wall-to-wall Dave show for 6 hours a day is too much.   I LOVE Vanilla Bean Ice Cream with Strawberries on top.  But if I was forced to eat nothing but that at every meal, I would get sick of it.  Anyone would.  MODERATION is the word of the day NOT ELIMINATION. Some of us just plain old listeners, didnt get a chance to know him or like him because he was CRAMMED down our throat.   Let us just take a taste, savor the moment and then decide.  Foce feeding only leaves a bad taste in our mouth. I cant WAIT to hear the wit that comes back at me for that last sentence. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" /> Being a spelling Nazi, I had to correct your post, BoredGossip.  I like the fact that you're a stickler for grammar, though (except that "throat" and "mouth" in the last full paragraph should be "throats" and "mouths").  We could take over the world some day...That's a lie.  I'm too lazy.  Welcome to the board, and I hope you feel better.<img src="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20060725/226ice_cream_1.jpg" border="0" width="167" height="226" /> And Jenny Love knows a little something about "force feeding"...The only difference is that she doesn't think the taste is so bad...

TastelessGinny

03-10-2007, 05:10 PM

BoredGossip wrote: One could also take solace in the fact that if they couldn't stand a member of the show at the time, the member himself was always trying to cultivate a career and one day would move up and/or out.  NO ONE starts on the Ron and Fez show with the idea of using the boys to move up and get out.   Ron and Fez are in the #1 market in America; when someone comes on as a producer, it's literally like winning the lottery--you've managed to get a position in the most competitive, largest and most diverse and exciting market in the United States.  THERE IS NO MOVING UP--you're already at the top.  The only way to go farther is to get your own show.  How many listeners does the average ex-producer have?  Life after producing the Ron and Fez show means getting less exposure, a lot less mic time and becoming a trivia question...if you're lucky.  I'm a jock in NJ now.  Maybe--maybe!  One person on this board has heard me post-R&F.  Maybe. Producers move on for the same reasons people at other jobs in other industries move on.  If they managed to learn something while working on the show, they stay in the business.  If they didn't learn something, they don't.  It's that simple.  But make no mistake--none of us jump on the wagon thinking "I gotta work here until I find something better."Take it easy on Dave.  He's funny, he's great to listen to, and I think if the day ever comes that he moves on, he's definitely staying in the business.

Gvac

03-10-2007, 05:18 PM

Good to see you here again Ginny!  It was great hearing you call in the other day too.  Please visit us more often!By the way, I'm incredibly horny right now and have what can only be described as a raging hard on.Thank you.

TastelessGinny

03-10-2007, 05:21 PM

Gvac wrote: Good to see you here again Ginny! It was great hearing you call in the other day too. Please visit us more often!By the way, I'm incredibly horny right now and have what can only be described as a raging hard on.Thank you.  I'd help you out with that, if I weren't already married... and unafraid that my hip would break.

Gvac

03-10-2007, 05:22 PM

Same old Ginny.

TastelessGinny

03-10-2007, 05:26 PM

Here, sure.  <a href="http://wmtram.com/index2.htm" target="_blank" title="But if you listen to my show (10 am - 1 pm, Monday Friday)">But if you listen to my show,</a> you see that I sound more like a 60 year old ex-Girl Scout Troop leader.  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbup.gif" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

03-10-2007, 05:28 PM

BoredGossip wrote: If you read the original post through you will see that I addressed this. The impression of Al given by the show was that he was not liked by the show. It was easier to accept Al because the impressino was givien that the show was stuck with him and didnt like it. It didnt appear that Al had personal sway.[/quote] That's called listening too closely to your radio.  Al was the heel of the show back in 2001, kind of similar to how Dave is the heel now.  The only difference is that Al was "gay", and Dave is "insane".  If you want to make a correlation on how someone wasn't well liked, all you need to do is think about other producers who disappeared without a trace and/or are rarely spoken about on R&F.  Al had a huge amount of fanfare on his exit, and he's had multiple appearances on the show on XM and now, he's almost like producer emeritus. The show has almost ALWAYS been that R&F are the "faces" and the producers are the heels.  The only two producers who skirted this were Rory and Brian, and Brian just barely.   I am just a listener not a "messagbe boarder" As just a listener, all I can speak to is what I hear/heard ont he radio. Which is that one rarely, heard another message board mentioned except for wackbag (a deciedly O&A-centric board). I'm not saying there weren't others out there, but if there were, ther were rarely mentionon air.Then you obviously aren't paying attention, or just selectively paying attention.  For someone who is so focused on Dave, you'd know damn well that his board of choice is FBA.  I would say that Wackbag, FBA, and RF.net get an equal amount of mentions on the show, with RF.net getting the lion's share of the plugs on the Free-FM show. Isn't your screen name a pun off Board Gossip, which is centered on mentioning ALL THE FUCKING BOARDS IN THE COMMUNITY?    What do I hope to accomplish? Nothing. My life doesnt revolve around a radio show. I have a couple days off because Im running a fever and decided to fill some time.Translation: I am being a passive-aggressive douchebag who is using the veiled Angry Typing Guy "I have a life" defense.  You want to vent yourself anonymously, with some sort of agenda, either getting a mention on the show or trying to paint yourself as some savior.  I'm not buying it for a second. I'm sure Dave is a great guy to hang out with. I'm sure he's charming and lovable and just a wonderful person to have as a friend. But the virtual-wall-to-wall Dave show for 6 hours a day is too much. I LOVE Vanilla Bean Ice Cream with Strawberries on top. But if I was forced to eat nothing but that at every meal, I would get sick of it. Anyone would. MODERATION is the word of the day NOT ELIMINATION. Some of us just plain old listeners, didnt get a chance to know him or like him because he was CRAMMED down our throat. Let us just take a taste, savor the moment and then decide. Foce feeding only leaves a bad taste in our mouth. I cant WAIT to hear the wit that comes back at me for that last sentence. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" />Again, you're being passive aggressive.  "I HATE DAVE, BUT I'M SURE HE'S A GREAT GUY".  Will you just relax and realize that Ron and Fez have nearly 35+ years of radio experience between the two of them, and may have a clue of how to do a radio show?  The best Ron and Fez shows have

underdog

03-10-2007, 06:34 PM

BoredGossip wrote:There is a problem with the show/community/fanbase et al. There have always been infighting and rancor among the fans, but it is undeniable that in the past year it has come to a boiling point. How many R&F message boards are there now? I don’t remember a time where callers & fans have displayed so much angst towards a personality. How is any of this a problem? How is a lot of people hating the heel of the show a problem? That's his job, and it seems Dave plays the heel better than anyone before him. And more message boards about RnF is a problem? Again, how? More people want to discuss RnF and more people are signing up and doing it. This seems like a mega-positive. Love him or hate him, Dave makes a huge impact in the show. He's doing HIS JOB. Something Ron and Fez put him out there to do. You don't think they get some sort of sadistic pleasure in pissing off a lot of their fans? And its hilarious when they do it.Also, I love Tenbatsuzen. You're one of my favorite ronfez.net people.  

This message was edited by underdog423 on 3-10-07 @ 10:36 PM

Wallower

03-10-2007, 06:39 PM

BoredGossip wrote: I know in my case I have been a constant listener and R&F fan since early 2001. By “constant” I mean listened on WNEW, through WJFK, To XM. and then what happened?

sailor

03-10-2007, 07:20 PM

BoredGossip wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I hear what you're saying, man.Personally, I like Dave on the show, but there have been plenty of other things in the past that drove me up the wall. But at the end of the day, the show as a whole has always been outstanding, so I can overlook certain parts that I may not be a fan of. I know Dave is on a lot, but he's not the whole show. He's just the latest in a long line of polarizing show people. I actually LOVED that there are polarizing figures. Always have. Confilt sometimes breeds captivating drama. For example, I would CRINGE when Wonderboy would come on. But he did his 15-20 minutes, then exited the stage. I didnt think he added anything really entertaining to the show, but I never got TIRED OF HIM. I also was not big fan of Billy. But he had enough smarts that when he pulled off something funny/interesting, he wouldn't overstay his welcome. He's get the hell out of the studio. leaving us wanting a little more.To me, Dave's funny moments are drowned in a sea of of his own idiocy. This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-9-07 @ 6:21 PM this is the most succint explanation of dave's appeal, i've ever read.

Death Metal Moe

03-10-2007, 08:33 PM

BoredGossip wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh great, this dude is "Sign on later and respond individually to everyone" guy.It's not about you douche bag.I eagerly await your fucking color coded reply. You sir, are an enigma. If you do not want a response, why would you address me directly? However, since you are eager, here is my reply: You have a construction error in your second line. I will assume you are not addressing my personal douche bag directly and didn’t misspell the word 'your' as in, "It's not about your douche bag".  Instead, I believe you tried to embarrass and/or ridicule me by comparing me to, and calling me a, douche bag. If that is the case, then your sentence should have read (note the comma placement), "It's not about you, douche bag". In case you need it used in a different sentence to fully comprehend the construction, here is one for you: I’m not the one who inferred that the popular opinion was that Dave does not belong on the show, douche bag. You were*.*note your previous post. P.S. Since you wanted it color coded, I used a scheme that matched the bumper sticker on your car. This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 5:51 PM Fuck your mother.

lleeder

03-11-2007, 05:53 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: BoredGossip wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh great, this dude is "Sign on later and respond individually to everyone" guy.It's not about you douche bag.I eagerly await your fucking color coded reply. You sir, are an enigma. If you do not want a response, why would you address me directly? However, since you are eager, here is my reply: You have a construction error in your second line. I will assume you are not addressing my personal douche bag directly and didn’t misspell the word 'your' as in, "It's not about your douche bag".  Instead, I believe you tried to embarrass and/or ridicule me by comparing me to, and calling me a, douche bag. If that is the case, then your sentence should have read (note the comma placement), "It's not about you, douche bag". In case you need it used in a different sentence to fully comprehend the construction, here is one for you: I’m not the one who inferred that the popular opinion was that Dave does not belong on the show, douche bag. You were*.*note your previous post. P.S. Since you wanted it color coded, I used a scheme that matched the bumper sticker on your car. This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 5:51 PM Fuck your mother.I like that. Extra credit for good sentance formation.

Kerouac931

03-11-2007, 08:15 AM

BoredGossip wrote: “Well, dude, if you don’t like the show why do you listen, just turn it off”I listen because the radio world is a barren cupboard in front of a starving listener and those two thin slices of bread are at least something to taste and remind me of the days when I wasn’t hungry everyday.Complain about how bad the show is to people that aren't fans. Dave is a major character on the show. If you don't like him, then read your own quote and stop bitching about it. If you're such a "starving listener" then maybe you just "eat" too much. You obviously like Dave enough to make a name based on his character. This negative shit really does have to go.

LilLibra

03-11-2007, 09:18 AM

I think it's pretty obvious BoredGossip is less than amused by Dave's contributions to the show and everyone's entitled to their opinion about him but don't you think this argument is being stretched a bit too thin? Things change. You don't have to like all of it but if you're as big a fan as you say you are, you understand the cycles in which the show runs. Therefore you realize that right now Dave is a hot topic (b/c Ron likes what he brings and/or he sparks a lot of drama.) He might be that way for a while, but just like everyone else who's been on the show, it'll die down eventually. Doesn't mean he might not be around but that's how things go.Ride it out and keep enjoying the show. It's still the Ron & Fez show, so no worries. 

This message was edited by LilLibra on 3-11-07 @ 1:20 PM

drjoek

03-11-2007, 06:15 PM

lleeder wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: BoredGossip wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh great, this dude is "Sign on later and respond individually to everyone" guy.It's not about you douche bag.I eagerly await your fucking color coded reply. You sir, are an enigma. If you do not want a response, why would you address me directly? However, since you are eager, here is my reply: You have a construction error in your second line. I will assume you are not addressing my personal douche bag directly and didn’t misspell the word 'your' as in, "It's not about your douche bag".  Instead, I believe you tried to embarrass and/or ridicule me by comparing me to, and calling me a, douche bag. If that is the case, then your sentence should have read (note the comma placement), "It's not about you, douche bag". In case you need it used in a different sentence to fully comprehend the construction, here is one for you: I’m not the one who inferred that the popular opinion was that Dave does not belong on the show, douche bag. You were*.*note your previous post. P.S. Since you wanted it color coded, I used a scheme that matched the bumper sticker on your car. This message was edited by BoredGossip on 3-10-07 @ 5:51 PM Fuck your mother.I like that. Extra credit for good sentance formation.You spelled sentence wrong<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/lol.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

MrMarcus

03-23-2007, 01:32 PM

Captain Rooster

03-23-2007, 01:33 PM

Nope. ESD is getting better and better. Great 3rd mic.

Caseyelan

03-23-2007, 01:34 PM

I happen to find him insanely funny. I might be biased.

torker

03-23-2007, 01:35 PM

I've only heard ESD since the Free FM, but I like him. 

PapaBear

03-23-2007, 01:35 PM

Anyone Else Here Sick of East Side Dave? Nope

mikeyboy

03-23-2007, 01:37 PM

I've liked Dave since the beginning, and he's only gotten stronger on air.         Note to Dave: I already know that when you show this thread to Ron, you're only going to show him the first post.

LilLibra

03-23-2007, 01:38 PM

Nah. Doesn't really bother me.

PapaBear

03-23-2007, 01:39 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Note to Dave: I already know that when you show this thread to Ron, you're only going to show him the first post.<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/lol.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

AngelAmy

03-23-2007, 01:39 PM

i love dave always have always will will never get sick of himlock it up boys!ok maybe not

Tenbatsuzen

03-23-2007, 01:39 PM

mikeyboy wrote:  Note to Dave: I already know that when you show this thread to Ron, you're only going to show him the first post. Then why don't you edit the first post to have a disclaimer that this post is made by a user who has had 177 posts since 2001, and may or not be a user just trying to stir up shit and get attention, Mr. Admin?

Tenbatsuzen

03-23-2007, 01:40 PM

<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/forum/46/topic/58268">Anyone Else Here Sick of East Side Dave?</a> I don't hate the guy, but come on.  This would be a definition of "passive aggressive behavior"

NortonRules

03-23-2007, 01:41 PM

He's the only one on the show I'm not tired of right now.  I haven't even listened this week.  Burnt out. 

BoondockSaint

03-23-2007, 01:41 PM

I love Dave.  I find his laugh infectious as hell.  Sometimes you can even hear Ron trying not to get into a laughing fit when Dave's laughing.

fattypnemonia

03-23-2007, 01:42 PM

ESD RULES @ LIFE! now earl on the other hand. yeesh.

J.Clints

03-23-2007, 01:45 PM

MrMarcus wrote: I don't hate the guy, but come on.  He gets entirely too much show time, and his life is not that interesting.  I can sum up ESD's entire life in three sentences:1.) He was born of Irish descent in New Jersey where he went to high school with Tony Reali, a big star at ESPN.2.) He worked as a waiter but now he's a producer on the Ron & Fez show.3.) He's had three girlfriends in his life.There, you have a three sentence biography of the life of ESD.  That's it and that's all. Can we move on?  Here's a tip for the Producers of Ron & Fez.  How about booking a guest from time to time?  Someone must have an interesting book, or a movie, or a TV show, or something to promote.  Why not book someone worth talking to.  Someone that's actually accomplished something other than getting a date.  Again, I don't hate the guy, but he's not worth 2 hours a night of radio.      Anyone else sick of MrMarcus? I dont hate the guy but..........Love you Dave

patsopinion

03-23-2007, 01:47 PM

aaawww hes so cutei remember my first anti-dave post how quickly they grow though- weve been lacking this kind of sinacism for a while

torker

03-23-2007, 01:51 PM

ps ~ I can smell your cunt.

DonInNC

03-23-2007, 01:51 PM

I started to type out a long ass post explaining why Dave's great for the show, but then decided what's the use.

MrMarcus

03-23-2007, 01:51 PM

It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.Again, I don't hate the guy, but anyone can be over-exposed.Only 177 posts?  Hmmm, maybe that's because I have a life, and I don't have all day to post on msg boards. Just a thought.

Dan G

03-23-2007, 01:51 PM

East Side Dave fan since day one.

King Hippos Bandaid

03-23-2007, 01:52 PM

A Gain    ESD Best Producer Since  Ronandfez.com days,  probably ever.Mr Marcus Wants  AttentionDave please read all posts,  One Rotten Egg, doesnt spoil the Bunch

MrMarcus

03-23-2007, 01:55 PM

King Hippo's Bandaid wrote: A Gain    ESD Best Producer Since  Ronandfez.com days,  probably ever.Mr Marcus Wants  AttentionDave please read all posts,  One Rotten Egg, doesnt spoil the Bunch 1.) I never said that he was not a great producer.2.) I do not want nor need attention.3.) The guy has a very limited range of contribution.  He's not worth 2 hours a night of radio.  No one is.

Tenbatsuzen

03-23-2007, 01:56 PM

MrMarcus wrote: Only 177 posts? Hmmm, maybe that's because I have a life, and I don't have all day to post on msg boards.  Wow, grasping at straws?  One of our most prolific posters here has a wife and two-kids and a soon-to-fired accident-prone polish chick living with him.You do realize that the admins can run an IP check and see what other people have posted from your address, right?  People with low post counts and posting stupid shit are either 1) hacks hiding behind a fake name 2) people from SFN trying to stir shit up or 3) passive aggressive douchebags.

lleeder

03-23-2007, 01:57 PM

I disagree with this thread but I don't think the post is out of line. The guy doesnt like Dave so he expressed his opinion. We like him so we express ours. Its not going to change anything either way, Daves here to stay until he has a meltdown. Its the Ron and Fez Show way.

Tenbatsuzen

03-23-2007, 01:57 PM

MrMarcus wrote:1.) I never said that he was not a great producer.2.) I do not want nor need attention.3.) The guy has a very limited range of contribution. He's not worth 2 hours a night of radio. No one is.  I am convinced you don't get the show.The producer's role has always been to be the heel of the show.  They just sold out the Hard Rock on a gimmick that Dave came up with.

Wallower

03-23-2007, 01:58 PM

He's funny and good natured. Your thread is not. <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~unfun3d/dic298.jpg" border="0" width="288" height="180" />Face! Face!

Tenbatsuzen

03-23-2007, 02:00 PM

<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/46/Topic/55068/currentpage/1/page/Bring_Back_Al_Dukes__.htm">MrMarcus claims that no one is worth 2 hours of radio, yet pines for the only person who generated as much heat as Dave did on a comparable scale.</a>

Midkiff

03-23-2007, 02:01 PM

When I first started listening, I generally disliked Dave until the "vote-off." Ever since the departure of the Midnight Rider, however, I think Dave has been spot-on! ESD has converted me! Isn't Mr. Marcus that black porn star that smells funny and has an elephant cock?

This message was edited by jdmidkiff on 3-23-07 @ 6:06 PM

ralphbxny

03-23-2007, 02:01 PM

Dave adds the over the top to the show. His yogi berra type words are hysterical like "I pray cod!!!"Where Fez used to be that he can go to a spot he is more comfortable in.Dave has made the show evolve into a better place.

The Blowhard

03-23-2007, 02:01 PM

Dave is improving on air all the time, and he's a fun listen. Take Peter Pan, Andy Dick and Jar Jar Binks and there you go, that's the magic of Dave. Give the young man a break!

MrMarcus

03-23-2007, 02:02 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/46/Topic/55068/currentpage/1/page/Bring_Back_Al_Dukes__.htm">MrMarcus claims that no one is worth 2 hours of radio, yet pines for the only person who generated as much heat as Dave did on a comparable scale.</a> Who am I pining for?

OGC

03-23-2007, 02:14 PM

The Blowhard wrote: Dave is improving on air all the time, and he's a fun listen. Take Peter Pan, Andy Dick and Jar Jar Binks and there you go, that's the magic of Dave. Give the young man a break! Very good Blowhard. I think that hits it right on the head.I started listening since the buddays joined XM, but since then I have heard a ton of the old shows, Dave is as good a producer as I have heard and a better on air participant than all of the other.Sure there are times when I tire of some of his bits. When that happens, I just keep listening because I know that he will turn it around.

pete_in_NJ

03-23-2007, 03:09 PM

I like ESD . I do miss the flying cowbell alot. Its been so long. Maybe i'm dememnted but i enjoy daves screams of pain. His scream is funny. Another note. I notice that alot of times people call in a only say hello to Ron . It's the Ron & Fez show. Give Fezzy some love will ya's?

Hottub

03-23-2007, 03:11 PM

Dave just keeps getting better! Miss RF.net ESD!

Dash77

03-23-2007, 03:15 PM

I like Dave but he's blatant racism gets on my nerves

IamFogHat

03-23-2007, 03:35 PM

I actually think ESD is really coming into his own recently.  He sounds much more comfortable on air and in his own skin and he's really been killing on mic.  I'm proud of him.

bootzilla6

03-23-2007, 05:32 PM

IamFogHat wrote: I actually think ESD is really coming into his own recently.  He sounds much more comfortable on air and in his own skin and he's really been killing on mic.  I'm proud of him. Our little boy has grown up. oh by the way what was this thread about?

Swannee

03-23-2007, 05:37 PM

Dave is awesome. Steps up when Fezzie doesnt feel well and is great when Ron wants to talk music, movies or catholicism. Long live East Side Dave

ChoppedLiver

03-23-2007, 05:48 PM

He's a refreshing bit of radio.

LimeJohnny

03-23-2007, 05:54 PM

ESD is the best 3rd mic the show has ever had....

MilkmanDann

03-25-2007, 05:48 AM

Dave is improving on air all the time, and he's a fun listen. Take Peter Pan, Andy Dick and Jar Jar Binks and there you go, that's the magic of Dave. Give the young man a break!

Good god Blowhard, can I take all 3 and push them in a oven?

Dave has come.... full circle. Its high time he moves to south carolina, shacks up with his chick and starts doing local radio down there. Everyones happy.

Crispy123

03-25-2007, 06:29 AM

Since the departure of the Rider I have found that my fondness for ESD has grown. The speech impediment & insane giggle are endearing.:eek:

hedges

03-25-2007, 04:12 PM

Dave's got heart and he makes me laugh.

Cleophus James

03-25-2007, 04:28 PM

Anybody tired of Esd sucks threads? We all know Dave's a moron. He sucks at life. But he is good for the show. When he stops being good, Ron and Fez will take care of business.

Although the post dog face dave doesn't suck at life as much.

Rockvillejoe

03-26-2007, 12:08 PM

I don't hate the guy, but come on.  He gets entirely too much show time, and his life is not that interesting.  I can sum up ESD's entire life in three sentences:1.) He was born of Irish descent in New Jersey where he went to high school with Tony Reali, a big star at ESPN.2.) He worked as a waiter but now he's a producer on the Ron & Fez show.3.) He's had three girlfriends in his life.There, you have a three sentence biography of the life of ESD.  That's it and that's all. Can we move on?  Here's a tip for the Producers of Ron & Fez.  How about booking a guest from time to time?  Someone must have an interesting book, or a movie, or a TV show, or something to promote.  Why not book someone worth talking to.  Someone that's actually accomplished something other than getting a date.  Again, I don't hate the guy, but he's not worth 2 hours a night of radio.      
well said. no vitriole, no hate. just a well stated case. as usual, if you don't agree, then you "just don't get it". then, you will be attacked, not your message, but you, personally, because your opinion cannot be attacked. accept the fact that you are not going to convince these pathetic sycophants. they all drink from the same dave kool aid pitcher. the shows gone down and will continue to slide as long as the r and f skate. dave has a stronghold on this show. he's an intimidating bully, and god forbid that someone complain he is too much of the show. either accept it, or tune to o and a on free fm, or npr.

Terry-Two

03-26-2007, 12:24 PM

nope...I think he's radio gold.

jetdog

03-26-2007, 12:30 PM

nope...I think he's radio gold.

did anybody geuss who you are yet?

chili

03-26-2007, 12:51 PM

I'm not sick of Dave at all. If I had one bone to pick it'd be with the messageboard garbage, specifically him denigrating RF.net all the time.

Esswhy

03-26-2007, 05:20 PM

ESD really grows on you, at first I was questionable, but when The Rider started getting all the airtime, I was dying for ESD to come back. He does seem to be taking a ton of Fez time though.

Bossanova

03-26-2007, 05:31 PM

Can I ask this simple question? If you dedicated fans of the show know that the show has tanked since Dave has come to the fore front and it is obvious that he isn't going anywhere soon. And he you hate listening to him and he is two thirds of the show.....

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU STILL LISTEN?????
We are sick of the anti Dave threads. And I know people say that the answer is not posting, but it doesn't stop them. Just stop lisetening to the show that you hate listening to. Dave isn't going anywhere. If you mattered, Ron would PM you and say I'll get right on it guys.

Reephdweller

03-26-2007, 05:36 PM

Please please please stop listening to the fucking show. He's going to continue to be on the show. He's great and the boys clearly love him on the show. Either accept it or find another show, though enough already.

PunkMojo

03-27-2007, 05:44 AM

I love ESD on the show, but I love him in a lesser role. He is great as the bit player fall guy, but lately he has been getting too much mic time and he is wearing thin on me. Fez needs to starting stepping up like old school Ron & Fez shows.

MrMarcus

03-27-2007, 08:46 AM

EliSnow

03-27-2007, 08:49 AM

Um, maybe because I still love Ron & Fez, and like I said, I like Dave. I just don't think that 2 hours about his love life makes for compelling radio.

I have an opinion different from yours.

And your opinion appears to be completely different than Ron's and Fez's. It's their show. He wouldn't be getting the time if Ron and Fez didn't think he was doing well, and in fact, often you can hear Ron laughing in the background when ESD is talking.

QueensideDave

03-27-2007, 09:08 AM

Never! ESD is great, makes me laugh on a daily basis.

blacknoi

03-27-2007, 10:23 AM

To answer the thread subject: No.

STC-Dub

03-27-2007, 10:33 AM

No, I am not sick of ESD.

Gvac

03-27-2007, 10:46 AM

I love East Side Dave, but I AM sick of him bashing this website.

Enough's enough Dave.

cupcakelove

03-27-2007, 10:47 AM

I love East Side Dave, but I AM sick of him bashing this website.

Enough's enough Dave.

Its funny how he's screaming at us to be positive while bashing us at the same time. You gotta love the crazy red head.

AngelAmy

03-27-2007, 10:53 AM

I love East Side Dave, but I AM sick of him bashing this website.

Enough's enough Dave.

yeah one person said theyre sick of him and there is so many of us sitting here and defending him but he doesnt mention that does he

Kerouac931

03-27-2007, 10:54 AM

Stop whining. If you don't like ESD, don't fucking listen to him. Keep the negativity off the board.

Kerouac931

03-27-2007, 10:57 AM

yeah one person said theyre sick of him and there is so many of us sitting here and defending him but he doesnt mention that does he

To quote what people used to tell me when I first got here, get the bit. Not everything you hear on the air is reality. If you like the show, just listen to it and roll with it.

EliSnow

03-27-2007, 10:58 AM

Edited for length

PapaBear

03-27-2007, 10:59 AM

Please don't tell me you actually think someone like AngelAmy doesn't get the bit. Even if it's a bit, the board bashing gets really old. Especially when 99% of the board members actually like him.

nevnut

03-27-2007, 11:03 AM

Love the Dave

:wub:

No Homo!!

Febreeze

03-27-2007, 11:59 AM

I love Dave.

He is worth keeping there (supposedly on Ron's lap) just for his laugh.

Don Stugots

03-27-2007, 12:12 PM

I love East Side Da, but I AM sick of him bashing this website.

Enough's enough Dave.

i agree Gvac. Why doesnt he come here and look at the thread and see that we are not bashing him. We are behind and fighting for him.

Also, i sent him the thread from last week, i think by rooster or toker about how great he is on third mic. He never mentions it.

i hate his heal gimmick when it leaves egg on our phaces.

OtisCampbell

03-27-2007, 06:46 PM

ESD gets my vote... he helps add a lot of material to the show & doesn't usually say much unless Ron brings him into the conversation. Probably the thing that most gets to me about ESD is the way he goes nuts & starts screaming like a little school girl.

ralphbxny

03-27-2007, 06:57 PM

Dave doesnt love us anymore, yet we stick up for him...why? Cause we are loyal!

Love Dave wish he would ignore the haters and come back!!

Bossanova

03-27-2007, 07:06 PM

I do understand how many are tired of him bashing the site. I cringe sometimes when I hear him, because I am a huge Dave supporter. I do not blame him though. There are many who bash him, hell there is a guy on here who has a board name of ESD suck@life. I wouldn't be thrilled with that. I can see how he feels. The board that he was on for a long time has many new members who he feels put him to the curb. Do we deserve everything. No chance, but we aren't exactly innocent. We have too much negativity at him and everyone else on the show. WE are the official goddamn site of the show and yet at least 1/3 of the board shits on him/them. Its got to stop. Georgie doesn't put up with the YES network shitting on the Yanks.

* 1/3 may be a little high