The 2012 Republican Presidential Debates

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The people who support Rick Santorum aren't associated with any political affiliation. They aren't Tea Partiers, Neo-Conservatives, Religious Nutjobs or "Everyone Gets A Lollipop" Fuzzy Liberals. They are simply ASSHOLES. They want the rules of THEIR house, to be the rules of EVRYONES house.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Bob Impact]

The people who support Rick Santorum aren't associated with any political affiliation. They aren't Tea Partiers, Neo-Conservatives, Religious Nutjobs or "Everyone Gets A Lollipop" Fuzzy Liberals. They are simply ASSHOLES. They want the rules of THEIR house, to be the rules of EVRYONES house.

:thumbup:

[Syd]

The people who support Rick Santorum aren't associated with any political affiliation. They aren't Tea Partiers, Neo-Conservatives, Religious Nutjobs or "Everyone Gets A Lollipop" Fuzzy Liberals. They are simply ASSHOLES. They want the rules of THEIR house, to be the rules of EVRYONES house.

That's the religious wing of the GOP and the corporate wing of the GOP: they both want some form of fascism with the religious folk wanting the government to put the populace under the jackboot of the Bible and the latter wanting the same, but with the jackboot of corporations on the government as well.

[Bob Impact]

That's the religious wing of the GOP and the corporate wing of the GOP: they both want some form of fascism with the religious folk wanting the government to put the populace under the jackboot of the Bible and the latter wanting the same, but with the jackboot of corporations on the government as well.

Let's test your honesty here Syd... what jackboot do the liberals want people under?

[spoon]

Let's test your honesty here Syd... what jackboot do the liberals want people under?

I'll go...unions, big government and illegal immigrants?

[Syd]

Let's test your honesty here Syd... what jackboot do the liberals want people under?

No one, that's sort of the point of the progressive movement. No one above the law, no one below it and all men created equal regardless of race, creed or color along with jus soli and those rights extending toward anyone regardless of citizenship. The far left has been historically quite anti-fascist.

Since that's not the answer you wanted, though, I'll go with spoon's suggestion of illegal immigrants.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

"Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)


Benito Mussolini



What is fascism? Its state controlled capitalism. Who the hell wants that? GM and Chrysler

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No one, that's sort of the point of the progressive movement. No one above the law, no one below it and all men created equal regardless of race, creed or color along with jus soli and those rights extending toward anyone regardless of citizenship. The far left has been historically quite anti-fascist.

Since that's not the answer you wanted, though, I'll go with spoon's suggestion of illegal immigrants.

The far left progressive movement wants the state in control. Are all men created equal with an elite political class and seizing private property rights for the collective. Stalin really preached equality while living a lavish lifestyle while sendimg millions to the gulags


Illegal aliens are above the law in a way. They get to feed off the taxpayer with entitlements and their anchor babies are American citizens in which violates the 14th amendment as it was meant for children of freed slaves.

[Syd]

The far left progressive movement wants the state in control. Are all men created equal with an elite political class and seizing private property rights for the collective. Stalin really preached equality while living a lavish lifestyle while sendimg millions to the gulags


Illegal aliens are above the law in a way. They get to feed off the taxpayer with entitlements and their anchor babies are American citizens in which violates the 14th amendment as it was meant for children of freed slaves.

Stalin wasn't far left, though. He just bandied about Marxism. Trotsky and the Left Opposition was, well, the left opposition to Stalinism. The leaders living a lavish lifestyle is in direct contradiction to the ideals of Marxism and the far left, though, anarcho-socialism is to the left of the progressive movement in and of itself. That's like comparing Obama to Mussolini -- both are right wing politicians, but one is much farther to the right than the other.

Also outside of Italy, state controlled corporations weren't a featured part of fascism. Germany, Spain and elsewhere favored something of a laissez-faire approach. Mussolini was the one who thought corporations were getting out of control and being exploitative.

[Crispy123]

Stalin wasn't far left, though. He just bandied about Marxism. Trotsky and the Left Opposition was, well, the left opposition to Stalinism. The leaders living a lavish lifestyle is in direct contradiction to the ideals of Marxism and the far left, though, anarcho-socialism is to the left of the progressive movement in and of itself. That's like comparing Obama to Mussolini -- both are right wing politicians, but one is much farther to the right than the other.

Also outside of Italy, state controlled corporations weren't a featured part of fascism. Germany, Spain and elsewhere favored something of a laissez-faire approach. Mussolini was the one who thought corporations were getting out of control and being exploitative.

You can't debate with somebody who completely fabricates arguments and puts words in the mouth of the opposition. Not even worth the effort.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The 1st pillar of communism


Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.


During Stalins reign he instilled land management


In Ukraine for example farmers were turned into slaves on their own land in which they were converted into factory farms .

[underdog]

The 1st pillar of communism


Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.


During Stalins reign he instilled land management


In Ukraine for example farmers were turned into slaves on their own land in which they were converted into factory farms .

:clap:

[Syd]

The 1st pillar of communism


Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.


During Stalins reign he instilled land management


In Ukraine for example farmers were turned into slaves on their own land in which they were converted into factory farms .

I'll just let you skip past Kolkhoz to whatever argument you actually want to have, which I'm guessing is Lysenkoism. My money is on the media trying to push a narrative next week about R&D and "brain drain" due to defense budget cuts, which will invariably cause Rush to start talking Lysenkoism and pseudosciences.

[Jujubees2]

The 1st pillar of communism


Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.


During Stalins reign he instilled land management


In Ukraine for example farmers were turned into slaves on their own land in which they were converted into factory farms .

Yeah but those Ukraine girls really knocked me out...

[KnoxHarrington]

Yeah but those Ukraine girls really knocked me out...

They leave the West behind.

[hanso]

Obama violated the constitution again. The senate was not in recess.


Fuck it. Boehner should grow a pair and not allow funding this new bureaucracy.

They adjourn every three days for less than a minute. (while you ranted about Obama's Vac. from which he signed this bill). And how on earth could Boehner defund this when it's attached to the military budget?

The 1st pillar of communism


Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.


During Stalins reign he instilled land management


In Ukraine for example farmers were turned into slaves on their own land in which they were converted into factory farms .

New Gingrich's platform.

Whats up "Blah People"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They adjourn every three days for less than a minute. (while you ranted about Obama's Vac. from which he signed this bill). And how on earth could Boehner defund this when it's attached to the military budget?



New Gingrich's platform.

Whats up "Blah People"

I said I didnt have a problem with him going on vacation


The Senate was not in recess but its Obama , he starts wars without congressional consent, makes appointments when the senate is not in recess. Im sure the next thing he will do is sign an executive order for the DREAM Act


Mr Constitutional scholar shits on that document, His signing the NDAA and this move continue to prove it.

[Bob Impact]

No one, that's sort of the point of the progressive movement. No one above the law, no one below it and all men created equal regardless of race, creed or color along with jus soli and those rights extending toward anyone regardless of citizenship. The far left has been historically quite anti-fascist.

Since that's not the answer you wanted, though, I'll go with spoon's suggestion of illegal immigrants.

The answer I wanted is the intellectually honest answer you would give. What people are willing to avoid in their beliefs is far more telling than what they choose to embrace. For example, at the core of my moral system is the belief that no man should have his boot on any other's throat, and I would tell you that is PRECISELY the notion behind capitalism. Note that this not the Corporatism we have today, they are very different things.

Let me ask you this, let's say for the sake of the argument I advocate true Capitalism and you advocate true Socialism. At it's core Socialism implies that there is a interdependence that may or may not be chosen among men. Capitalism implies a partial dependence which must be chosen. Which system is more likely to involve jackboots? Once you hit that answer, how about this one, which system actually HAS involved jackboots?

[Crispy123]

...

[Crispy123]

From 1956 to the early 1980s, the Communist Party of China and their Maoist or ‘anti-revisionist’ adherents around the world often described the Soviet Union as state-capitalist, essentially using the accepted Marxist definition, albeit on a different basis and in reference to a different span of time from either the Trotskyists or the left-communists. Specifically, the Maoists and their descendants use the term state capitalism as part of their description of the style and politics of Nikita Khrushchev and his successors, as well as to similar leaders and policies in other self-styled ‘socialist’ states.[27] This was involved in the ideological Sino-Soviet Split. After Mao's death, amidst the supporters of the Cultural Revolution and the exploits of the 'Gang of Four', most extended the state capitalist formulation to China itself, and ceased to support the Communist Party of China, which likewise distanced itself from these former fraternal groups. The related theory of Hoxhaism was developed in 1978, largely by Albaniam president Enver Hoxha, who insisted that Mao himself had pursued state capitalist and revisionist economic policies.[28] Most current Communist groups descended from the Maoist ideological tradition still adopt the description of both China and the Soviet Union as being ‘state-capitalist’ from a certain point in their history onwards—most commonly, the Soviet Union from 1956 to its collapse in 1991, and China from 1976 to the present. Maoists and ‘anti-revisionists’ also sometimes use the term ‘Social-imperialism’ to describe socialist states that they consider to be actually capitalist in essence—their phrase, "socialist in words, imperialist in deeds" denotes this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

[Recyclerz]

Yeah but those Ukraine girls really knocked me out...

They leave the West behind.

Google Image search FEMEN and you'll discover two things - The Beatles knew of which they sang and that breasts provide a lovely accent to free speech.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Palin endorses Newt

Todd Palin that is

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/todd-palin-newt-gingrich-endorsement_n_1194385.html?ref=politics&icid=maing-grid7%7Ccompaq-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D126098

[Syd]

The answer I wanted is the intellectually honest answer you would give. What people are willing to avoid in their beliefs is far more telling than what they choose to embrace. For example, at the core of my moral system is the belief that no man should have his boot on any other's throat, and I would tell you that is PRECISELY the notion behind capitalism. Note that this not the Corporatism we have today, they are very different things.

Let me ask you this, let's say for the sake of the argument I advocate true Capitalism and you advocate true Socialism. At it's core Socialism implies that there is a interdependence that may or may not be chosen among men. Capitalism implies a partial dependence which must be chosen. Which system is more likely to involve jackboots? Once you hit that answer, how about this one, which system actually HAS involved jackboots?

Capitalism implies partial dependence? At what point in history has that ever been true? The East India Company or VOC certainly weren't allowing Indians to choose whether or not to be involved, they were either killed or put into service as sepoys.

You have a deeply, deeply flawed sense of capitalism. Open up a history book sometimes and realize it's every bit as evil as the caricature of socialism is portrayed. At least with socialism, you're in it with your neighbor instead of a potential victim. I'd rather interdependence with them over being killed or forced into indentured servitude because I stand in the way of profit. Maybe that's what you're into because you've been coerced from birth without knowing it but I definitely think there's a better way in which absolute power isn't given to "job creators" simply because they have enough money to create one of the biggest lies.

[Dude!]

Palin endorses Newt

Todd Palin that is

Snacks never got
to the 2nd line

his mom now thinks
sarah palin endorsed newt

[keithy_19]

Does this mean Huntsman wins the nomination and Obama wins the general election? Only one of these things seems likely to be true.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Romney better get ready for SC and FL. His victory in NH will be short lived. Newt is out for blood

[hanso]

it says he shook a lot of hands and people like that. nothing more. iowa is not representative of anything.

Heard he went by car to every county, he needed to shake about ten more hands.


That Fri. debate on ABC slipped right by me, never heard it was on.

[hanso]

Romney better get ready for SC and FL. His victory in NH will be short lived. Newt is out for blood

Some rich dude put like 5 Mil into his Super PAC.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Some rich dude put like 5 Mil into his Super PAC.

I think thats where Newts super PAC is going to release some 30 min documentary about bain.



So how do these superPACS work? Are they the hitmen for the candidates?

[epo]

I think thats where Newts super PAC is going to release some 30 min documentary about bain.




So how do these superPACS work? Are they the hitmen for the candidates?

Essentially yes.

Unregulated, unlimited, unreported money that can do anything they want.

They are the epitome of awful. Thanks Citizens United!

[underdog]

I think thats where Newts super PAC is going to release some 30 min documentary about bain.



So how do these superPACS work? Are they the hitmen for the candidates?

Colbert has been doing a great job tearing it apart.

A SuperPAC can talk whatever they want about a candidate, but they're not allowed to coordinate directly with the candidate. They also need to disclose everyone who donates money (no limit to the donations). However, you can also create something called a 501(c)(4) which allows you to accept unlimited donations, only you don't have to disclose the people donating or the amount they're donating. That 501(c)(4) can then donate unlimited amounts to the SuperPAC, which would only disclose the name of the 501(c)(4) as the donator.

I think they used to call it money laundering, but now it's just politics.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see it now

all those commercials that dont include "Im _________ and I approve this message" are SuperPACs


Is it just the GOP who use these or will Obama use them? I know that he has Organizing for America which is different from barackobama.com

There is too much money in politics. I keep hearing that Obama is going to raise close to a billion, I wonder if that includes the superPACs

[KnoxHarrington]

Essentially yes.

Unregulated, unlimited, unreported money that can do anything they want.

They are the epitome of awful. Thanks Citizens United!

I think that's gonna go down with the Dred Scott Decision and Plessy v. Ferguson with the shittiest decisions the Supreme Court has ever made.

[underdog]

I see it now

all those commercials that dont include "Im _________ and I approve this message" are SuperPACs


Is it just the GOP who use these or will Obama use them? I know that he has Organizing for America which is different from barackobama.com

There is too much money in politics. I keep hearing that Obama is going to raise close to a billion, I wonder if that includes the superPACs

Both parties will definitely use this.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/95/2012/01/06/104083_600.jpg

[StanUpshaw]

I love Super PACs.

I support anything that hastens peoples realization that democracy is too fucked up to exist.

[epo]

I see it now

all those commercials that dont include "Im _________ and I approve this message" are SuperPACs


Is it just the GOP who use these or will Obama use them? I know that he has Organizing for America which is different from barackobama.com

There is too much money in politics. I keep hearing that Obama is going to raise close to a billion, I wonder if that includes the superPACs

Organizing for America is barackobama.com. Its a wing of the DNC.

[Dudeman]

http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/95/2012/01/06/104083_600.jpg

Super PACS are a libertarian's dream- unregulated corporations


(been gone a long time. can't believe WF still spends his whole life here.)

[StanUpshaw]

Indeed, libertarians support freedom of speech. Brilliant insight.

[hanso]

If there could be a way to get money out and ethics in, it could lead to some decency for a change.

Think it was Buddy Roemer or someone like him that said they kept raising the requirements to run and that he needed half mil as one of those. Might have been to be on debates.

[Dudeman]

Indeed, libertarians support freedom of speech. Brilliant insight.

because corporations are people

[StanUpshaw]

because corporations are people

The constitution doesn't endow people or corporations with rights. Rights exist inherently. The constitution limits the power of government. "Congress shall make no law..."

But for a moment, let's say the 1st amendment shouldn't apply to corporations. If the 1st doesn't, should the 4th? Should the government be allowed to storm into an office building and seize computers without a warrant?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Super PACS are a libertarian's dream- unregulated corporations


(been gone a long time. can't believe WF still spends his whole life here.)





I did get banned for 1 day but it was in a sports thread arguing over the term hayseed

[Syd]

The constitution doesn't endow people or corporations with rights. Rights exist inherently. The constitution limits the power of government. "Congress shall make no law..."

But for a moment, let's say the 1st amendment shouldn't apply to corporations. If the 1st doesn't, should the 4th? Should the government be allowed to storm into an office building and seize computers without a warrant?

Does the 5th amendment apply to corporations? Can a corporation be subpoenaed to appear before a jury? If so, what does a corporation look like? How will it be able to swear to testify truthfully? Will a corporation be able to swear to God, or does God not recognize corporations as people? If the latter is true, how can we know a corporation to be testifying truthfully?

I did get banned for 1 day but it was in a sports thread arguing over the term hayseed

to be fair, they probably were a bunch of hayseeds

(welcome back WF!)

[CountryBob]

I did get banned for 1 day but it was in a sports thread arguing over the term hayseed

What? No way you were banned over the term hayseed. You had to personally attack somebody to get banned right?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What? No way you were banned over the term hayseed. You had to personally attack somebody to get banned right?

Yup, I was responding to an attack.


Ironic that I got banned from a sports thread and not a politics one

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Perry campaign continues to implode.

http://news.yahoo.com/perry-loses-key-sc-backer-attack-romney-153310267.html

[Bob Impact]

Does the 5th amendment apply to corporations? Can a corporation be subpoenaed to appear before a jury? If so, what does a corporation look like? How will it be able to swear to testify truthfully? Will a corporation be able to swear to God, or does God not recognize corporations as people? If the latter is true, how can we know a corporation to be testifying truthfully?

to be fair, they probably were a bunch of hayseeds

(welcome back WF!)

Yes, a corporation can be subpoenaed. The custodian of record is sworn in and can be compelled to produce records that incriminate themselves.
This case presents the question whether the custodian of corporate records may resist a subpoena for such records on the ground that the act of production would incriminate him in violation of the Fifth Amendment. We conclude that he may not.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15028366854455465019&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr

[Crispy123]

I don't think corporate personhood and the Super Pacs are as big a problem as people like to make out. I think the NDAA and the Patriot Act are much worse, why don't we hear more about this shit?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I don't think corporate personhood and the Super Pacs are as big a problem as people like to make out. I think the NDAA and the Patriot Act are much worse, why don't we hear more about this shit?

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:




Also SOPA isnt being reported on that much either

[Syd]

Yes, a corporation can be subpoenaed. The custodian of record is sworn in and can be compelled to produce records that incriminate themselves.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15028366854455465019&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr

That relates to the custodian of records; not whether or not the actual corporation can choose not to testify. Because a corporation isn't a physical thing that can be put on the stand, since corporations aren't people.

Sort of like how a corporation isn't require to register for the draft, and that they already have first amendment rights through their shareholders, and corporations can't vote, and a lot of other things. It's even more dubious of a decision than Roe v Wade (which was a shit interpretation, and Casey v Planned Parenthood was so much more sound)

I don't think corporate personhood and the Super Pacs are as big a problem as people like to make out. I think the NDAA and the Patriot Act are much worse, why don't we hear more about this shit?

You don't think so? Corporations are already heavily involved in laws and NDAA/SOPA/Patriot Act were all likely written by corporations. The immigration law in Arizona was specifically written by a lobbyist group for private prison corporations so it isn't a stretch to believe that at the highest level, corporations are writing laws for their puppets to present to Congress.

[A.J.]

Gingrich hits Romney for knowing how to speak French (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gingrich-hits-romney-knowing-speak-french-150300235.html)

Yes, being bilingual makes you a loser.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

French Schmench


Now this is impressive by Huntsman

I never got the whole youre an elitist line because of able to speak another language. I speak Italian and Spanish fluently and when deployed with the Marine Corps I always wanted to learn the basics of each language when going to a foreign country.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MgN1Bk_mzkw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Colbert Stewart 2012?


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/12/colbert-for-president-again/?hpt=hp_t2

[Syd]

Gingrich hits Romney for knowing how to speak French (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gingrich-hits-romney-knowing-speak-french-150300235.html)

Yes, being bilingual makes you a loser.

It does, sort of. Anyone who took French instead of Spanish in the '90s realizes how much of a loser we all are for backing the wrong horse.

[Dude!]

It does, sort of. Anyone who took French instead of Spanish in the '90s realizes how much of a loser we all are for backing the wrong horse.

france wasn't even a horse in 1990

sacré bleu..tu et un imbécile

[A.J.]

It does, sort of. Anyone who took French instead of Spanish in the '90s realizes how much of a loser we all are for backing the wrong horse.

Well, that's true.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It does, sort of. Anyone who took French instead of Spanish in the '90s realizes how much of a loser we all are for backing the wrong horse.

Mexico doesn't own us. China does. Huntsman is the real winner for knowing Mandarin

[A.J.]

Huntsman is the real winner for knowing Mandarin

Pity he isn't doing better. He's the only one I can tolerate in this field.

[Syd]

Mexico doesn't own us. China does. Huntsman is the real winner for knowing Mandarin

http://exclusiveeconomy.com/2011/01/whose-the-biggest-holder-of-u-s-debt/

most of the debt is owned by Americans

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If we dont pay China their interest they have Submarines, Carriers and millions of men in their Military.

[Bob Impact]

That relates to the custodian of records; not whether or not the actual corporation can choose not to testify. Because a corporation isn't a physical thing that can be put on the stand, since corporations aren't people.

Sort of like how a corporation isn't require to register for the draft, and that they already have first amendment rights through their shareholders, and corporations can't vote, and a lot of other things. It's even more dubious of a decision than Roe v Wade (which was a shit interpretation, and Casey v Planned Parenthood was so much more sound)



You don't think so? Corporations are already heavily involved in laws and NDAA/SOPA/Patriot Act were all likely written by corporations. The immigration law in Arizona was specifically written by a lobbyist group for private prison corporations so it isn't a stretch to believe that at the highest level, corporations are writing laws for their puppets to present to Congress.
You really do write as if corporations are giant creatures that live under the ground.

[Bob Impact]

http://exclusiveeconomy.com/2011/01/whose-the-biggest-holder-of-u-s-debt/

most of the debt is owned by Americans

This.

Also, China can't just demand repayment of debt without trashing their own economy in the process. It's mutually assured economic self destruction.

[hanso]

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[Syd]

If we dont pay China their interest they have Submarines, Carriers and millions of men in their Military.

The PLA navy isn't all that; it's mostly old Russian designs, inferior classes and a handful of modern designs. They're greenwater at best. Also, you should say "carrier" since they only operate one. The Italian navy has more than them, and even if they lack submarines carrying ballistic missiles they still have a better ability to project power. China is, at best, a regional power. Their SSBNs are pretty easily tracked by the US and they haven't even laid a keel for a modern one yet. Same goes for their troops; China doesn't have the ability to project any power nor control airspace against a first world nation. They're basically there to be the swinging dick in the region and they don't particularly care about anything more than that.

You really do write as if corporations are giant creatures that live under the ground.

My entire point is that they aren't giant creatures that live under the ground, just a bunch of greedy shareholders who have enough money to buy whatever legal protection they desire from the US government.

[HBox]

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[hanso]

Great, what a super pac ad should look like.

[Bob Impact]

That's hilarious.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Huntsman out. Endorses Romney


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jon-huntsman-withdraw-republican-presidential-race-endorse-mitt-romney-monday-article-1.1006659

[spoon]

Orgamazo powers unite!

http://zombie-popcorn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/orgazmo_01.jpg

http://www.montrealfilmjournal.com/dat/pic/M0000393.jpg



Just watch out for those pesky ass-fuck twins!

http://eusa.ukmsl.net/asset/Event/9076/orgazmo1.jpg

(Perry & Santorum)


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E2uWeSxRO60/TIdyb-Fmo2I/AAAAAAAAJbA/Xztky_XZXBI/s1600/Orgzo2.jpg

Gingrich

[hanso]

Forgot the hedgehog was in that one. Was wondering what real movies he might have done not long ago.

[keithy_19]

I like that the crowd in South Carolina wasn't just God awful.

[Jujubees2]

Newt Gingrich takes swipe at New York City public workers during Monday's GOP presidential debate (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-debate-york-city-public-schools-students-black-push-a-broom-article-1.1007311#ixzz1jixTLPJN)

In effect, Gingrich argued the best thing public schools could do for students - particularly black students - was to give them a broom.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How dare he, give to someone with his own money.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-guest-romney-giving-money-to-woman-played-into-patronizing-stereotype-of-black-people/

[A.J.]

How dare he, give to someone with his own money.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-guest-romney-giving-money-to-woman-played-into-patronizing-stereotype-of-black-people/

So it's OK when it comes in the form of food stamps or a welfare check?

[hanso]

I like that the crowd in South Carolina wasn't just God awful.

Missed out on this one also. Never heard it was on.

[keithy_19]

Missed out on this one also. Never heard it was on.

It's OK. I was being 100% sarcastic when I said the crowd wasn't God awful.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Theres another one thursday

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I guess the evangelicals in SC dont hate Mormons. Romney has a decent size advantage

[hanso]

I guess the evangelicals in SC dont hate Mormons. Romney has a decent size advantage

The push is coming from Texas for Santorum.

[hanso]

Theres another one thursday

And one on the 29th, also a Thu.

[spoon]

How dare he, give to someone with his own money.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-guest-romney-giving-money-to-woman-played-into-patronizing-stereotype-of-black-people/

yah bc I'm sure he does this when he's not on the trail with cams on him all day

that's the issue wf, it's false representation based on just about every stance he has now and over the course of his life

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Perry to drop out today just broke on CNN

[Furtherman]

Texans can breathe a sign of relief and put down their garden hoses, Rick is returning to do what he does best: pray for rain.

[spoon]

just about as effective as he is overall

back to his ranch too!

[spoon]

perhaps he can use "blame it on the rain" for his campaign failure!

who really sang that again?

[A.J.]

perhaps he can use "blame it on the rain" for his campaign failure!

who really sang that again?

Not Milli Vannili.

[spoon]

Not Milli Vannili.

LIAR!

discount double bluff (fuck the check)

[Furtherman]

It seems Newt thinks he's all that and a bag of lard.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

One of the exe's explains their marriage

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/19/us-usa-campaign-wife-idUSTRE80I1U320120119

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It seems Newt thinks he's all that and a bag of lard.

Speaking of lard


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-panelist-on-newt-gingrich-hes-a-rich-old-fat-white-guy/

[Furtherman]

So Romney hides millions in the Cayman Island. Not a big deal, since most Americans couldn't find them on a map.

[Crispy123]

So Romney hides millions in the Cayman Island. Not a big deal, since most Americans couldn't find them on a map.

Every Island in the Carribean is basically the Bahamas. Except those commy's in Cuba!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of Cubans


Damn they are smokin

http://www.cubanonet.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/beautiful-cuban-women.jpg

[Crispy123]

Speaking of Cubans


Damn they are smokin

http://www.cubanonet.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/beautiful-cuban-women.jpg

especially the one in the middle!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

especially the one in the middle!

Nothing fake about those shapely Latinas

[hanso]

Texans can breathe a sign of relief and put down their garden hoses, Rick is returning to do what he does best: pray for rain.

:lol:

[A.J.]

So Romney hides millions in the Cayman Island. Not a big deal, since most Americans couldn't find them on a map.

He learned that from the Kennedys.

[A.J.]

Speaking of Cubans


Damn they are smokin

http://www.cubanonet.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/beautiful-cuban-women.jpg

This is why we need to end that stupid, worthless embargo.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Texans can breathe a sign of relief and put down their garden hoses, Rick is returning to do what he does best: pray for rain.

I was waiting for him to say, " I want to spend more time executing people"

[spoon]

This is why we need to end that stupid, worthless embargo.

:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not a supporter of Newt but he put Jon King in place. Im not saying the question of his alleged open marriage shouldnt have been brought up, however to start off the debate with that question to him was bush league. If anything maybe later in the debate or even better a 1 on 1 interview with Newt.

[spoon]

who?

[epo]

Not a supporter of Newt but he put Jon King in place. Im not saying the question of his alleged open marriage shouldnt have been brought up, however to start off the debate with that question to him was bush league. If anything maybe later in the debate or even better a 1 on 1 interview with Newt.

Why not? It was THE question of the day.

If King should be ripped for anything, its not owning the question. He should've asked like he actually gave a shit.

And Newt's answer was typical scapegoating of the media. I'm sorry Newt, Jon King didn't ask your hospitalized wife for an open marriage with a bimbo...they didn't cause the situation, now answer the question asshole.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why not? It was THE question of the day.

If King should be ripped for anything, its not owning the question. He should've asked like he actually gave a shit.

And Newt's answer was typical scapegoating of the media. I'm sorry Newt, Jon King didn't ask your hospitalized wife for an open marriage with a bimbo...they didn't cause the situation, now answer the question asshole.

Agreed on all those points on Newt, hes a fucking fraud and a douchebag,

However,

if the question of the day is Obamas college transcripts and why they aren't released, should that be the 1st question of the debate when he faces the GOP Nominee in a debate?

[keithy_19]

Agreed on all those points on Newt, hes a fucking fraud and a douchebag,

However,

if the question of the day is Obamas college transcripts and why they aren't released, should that be the 1st question of the debate when he faces the GOP Nominee in a debate?

Was Obama's college transcripts really that big of a deal?

If Gingrich is going to run a campaign largely based on morals he is going to be subjected to questions like that.

[hanso]

Not a supporter of Newt but he put Jon King in place. Im not saying the question of his alleged open marriage shouldnt have been brought up, however to start off the debate with that question to him was bush league. If anything maybe later in the debate or even better a 1 on 1 interview with Newt.

I found the backlash on this ironic as it is a debate after all. And most of these things seemed far from it with the form of questioning that had taken place.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Was Obama's college transcripts really that big of a deal?

If Gingrich is going to run a campaign largely based on morals he is going to be subjected to questions like that.

As crazy as it was, his birth cert was a big deal. Now if the media latches on to his college records and talks bout it nonstop its going to be turned into one, What If the moderator said to him, can you produce your long form birth cert in 24 hours, The moderator would have been heckeled and driven out of the media for good.


I agree that Newt is subject to scrutiny , however it shouldnt have led off the debate.


Turns out that Romneys Tax records are a bigger issue than who Newt bangs

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I found the backlash on this ironic as it is a debate after all. And most of these things seemed far from it with the form of questioning that had taken place.

Those SC Debates sounded like a WWE or TNA event, Newt got the biggest pop

[hanso]

Was Obama's college transcripts really that big of a deal?

If Gingrich is going to run a campaign largely based on morals he is going to be subjected to questions like that.

And there is a hypocrisy matter also, as this took place when he headed the Clinton impeachment.

[hanso]

Those SC Debates sounded like a WWE or TNA event, Newt got the biggest pop

Just can't get into enough of a sadomasochist mood to allow me to watch these things.

I already cringe when they are allowed to lockstep lie on the Sunday political shows.

[keithy_19]

Just can't get into enough of a sadomasochist mood to allow me to watch these things.

I already cringe when they are allowed to lockstep lie on the Sunday political shows.

This whole primary has made me hate South Carolina.

[spoon]

As crazy as it was, his birth cert was a big deal. Now if the media latches on to his college records and talks bout it nonstop its going to be turned into one, What If the moderator said to him, can you produce your long form birth cert in 24 hours, The moderator would have been heckeled and driven out of the media for good.


I agree that Newt is subject to scrutiny , however it shouldnt have led off the debate.


Turns out that Romneys Tax records are a bigger issue than who Newt bangs

So it's only a matter of WHEN the question was asked to you? Awesome.

[PapaBear]

Watch out for how the Bob McDonnell endorsement of Romney plays out. He's obviously vying to be Romney's running mate. That could alleviate the concerns of the Christian Right about the whole Mormon thing. McDonnell is very popular with them.

[hanso]

Not a supporter of Newt but he put Jon King in place. Im not saying the question of his alleged open marriage shouldnt have been brought up, however to start off the debate with that question to him was bush league. If anything maybe later in the debate or even better a 1 on 1 interview with Newt.

Juan Williams is the punching bag now. What a change from when he was the poster boy.

[epo]

Agreed on all those points on Newt, hes a fucking fraud and a douchebag,

However,

if the question of the day is Obamas college transcripts and why they aren't released, should that be the 1st question of the debate when he faces the GOP Nominee in a debate?

Thats a false scenario on your part.

This is a partisan primary in which the candidates are trying to prove who deserves their party's nomination, not a supposed "vetted" nominee.

* - The reason for the notation is Palin. That broke the rule of vetting.

[epo]

This whole primary has made me hate South Carolina.

It took their Presidential Primary to make you hate them?

This pretty much symbolizes their mindsight:

http://www.sacredbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/flag.jpg

[keithy_19]

It took their Presidential Primary to make you hate them?

This pretty much symbolizes their mindsight:

http://www.sacredbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/flag.jpg

I never thought of them till now.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And Newt's answer was typical scapegoating of the media. I'm sorry Newt, Jon King didn't ask your hospitalized wife for an open marriage with a bimbo...they didn't cause the situation, now answer the question asshole.

At least he asked. That already puts him above John Edwards.

[A.J.]

Not a supporter of Newt but he put Jon King in place. Im not saying the question of his alleged open marriage shouldnt have been brought up, however to start off the debate with that question to him was bush league. If anything maybe later in the debate or even better a 1 on 1 interview with Newt.

Not that I'm defending Newt but did anyone ever ask John Kerry about his ex-wife?

[keithy_19]

Not that I'm defending Newt but did anyone ever ask John Kerry about his ex-wife?

I did. He never responded.

[spoon]

I did. He never responded.

HA!

still AJ, I think it matters more or ties into Newt more bc of his platform/stances, not Kerry's


there is a major difference

Kerry isn't some crazy, "marriage is an institution bt a man and a woman/sacred thing", while Newt is and his life doesn't even come close to backing any of this up. He's a hypocrite and it shows character flaws in multiple directions, not the divorce, but the false pretenses and well, pretty much lies to get what he wants.

Here's a rundown on the whole thing that really makes the differences clear. (http://keithradzion.wordpress.com/)

[keithy_19]

HA!

still AJ, I think it matters more or ties into Newt more bc of his platform/stances, not Kerry's


there is a major difference

Kerry isn't some crazy, "marriage is an institution bt a man and a woman/sacred thing", while Newt is and his life doesn't even come close to backing any of this up. He's a hypocrite and it shows character flaws in multiple directions, not the divorce, but the false pretenses and well, pretty much lies to get what he wants.

Here's a rundown on the whole thing that really makes the differences clear. (http://keithradzion.wordpress.com/)

:lol::lol::lol:

[Furtherman]

I can only imagine in the past week Zuul was campaigning in South Carolina. "Choose your destroyer!"

[KnoxHarrington]

God damn this Republican nomination process is one of the most hilarious trainwrecks I've ever seen.

Seriously, Newt Fucking Gingrich?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[hanso]

God damn this Republican nomination process is one of the most hilarious trainwrecks I've ever seen.

Seriously, Newt Fucking Gingrich?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I thought about this, why he would run with so much baggage. It must be for arterial motives.

[hanso]

Wife of pro-life presidential candidate Rick Santorum had love affair with abortion doctor 40 years her senior... who delivered her as baby


"The wife of fiercely pro-life presidential hopeful Rick Santorum had a six-year love affair with an abortion doctor, 40 years her senior - who, incredibly, delivered her as a baby - it has emerged. Karen Santorum, 51, who, like her husband, opposes abortion even in cases of rape and doesn't believe in using birth control, lived with Pittsburgh abortion pioneer Dr Thomas E. Allen for most of her 20s in the 1980s. When she met Dr Allen, Mrs Santorum, who then went by the name Karen Garver, was a 22-year-old nursing student who shared his liberal views on abortion and enjoyed life as the younger lover of the 63-year-old divorcee and man-about-town, according to friends. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html
www.dailymail.co.uk so .....

[keithy_19]

Wife of pro-life presidential candidate Rick Santorum had love affair with abortion doctor 40 years her senior... who delivered her as baby


"The wife of fiercely pro-life presidential hopeful Rick Santorum had a six-year love affair with an abortion doctor, 40 years her senior - who, incredibly, delivered her as a baby - it has emerged. Karen Santorum, 51, who, like her husband, opposes abortion even in cases of rape and doesn't believe in using birth control, lived with Pittsburgh abortion pioneer Dr Thomas E. Allen for most of her 20s in the 1980s. When she met Dr Allen, Mrs Santorum, who then went by the name Karen Garver, was a 22-year-old nursing student who shared his liberal views on abortion and enjoyed life as the younger lover of the 63-year-old divorcee and man-about-town, according to friends. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html
www.dailymail.co.uk so .....

Talk about plucking them from the cradle...

[KnoxHarrington]

I thought about this, why he would run with so much baggage. It must be for arterial motives.

I can't figure this out at all either. No one can seriously believe Newt Gingrich has a chance in hell of winning. He makes one gaffe after another, his personal life is seriously fucked, and if he did get through, President Obama would absolutely destroy him in the debates. The election would be a Nixon-McGovern asswhipping in Obama's favor.

The only explanation for it is that the crazies of the party hate Romney and just want someone, anyone, else. They feel Romney is being forced on them, and I think they'd rather lose than have him win.

[Dudeman]

I thought about this, why he would run with so much baggage. It must be for arterial motives.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hR2kEld7aQc/Tp5E2luD5vI/AAAAAAACPxA/iztjnDfwmE8/s1600/Callista%2BGingrich%2Band%2BNewt%2BGingrich%2Band% 2BEllis%2Bthe%2BElephant.jpg

[hanso]

I never thought of them till now.

I get that way a lot, and I was born there.

[Kevin]

I can't figure this out at all either. No one can seriously believe Newt Gingrich has a chance in hell of winning. He makes one gaffe after another, his personal life is seriously fucked, and if he did get through, President Obama would absolutely destroy him in the debates. The election would be a Nixon-McGovern asswhipping in Obama's favor.

The only explanation for it is that the crazies of the party hate Romney and just want someone, anyone, else. They feel Romney is being forced on them, and I think they'd rather lose than have him win.

There is only 1 religon that starts with an M that would be worse for the Rep party to have as their nominee....

[hanso]

There is only 1 religon that starts with an M that would be worse for the Rep party to have as their nominee....

Then why tout them on Fox News?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There is only 1 religon that starts with an M that would be worse for the Rep party to have as their nominee....

Methodist?

[Kevin]

Then why tout them on Fox News?

Duh!

Because they are Fair and Balanced, silly!

[Kevin]

Methodist?

MMMMMU MMMMMM MUUU

[hanso]

Duh!

Because they are Fair and Balanced, silly!

So only when it come to religion. And to hell with separation of church and state.

[epo]

God damn this Republican nomination process is one of the most hilarious trainwrecks I've ever seen.

Seriously, Newt Fucking Gingrich?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

This speaks to the weakness of the GOP field.

Sure, conventional wisdom still has Romney getting the nomination...but damn is he looking weak at this point.

[Gvac]

Yeah, and your guy has been an incredibly strong President...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

SC Voted for Jesse Jackson in the '88 Primary.


Weird state

[epo]

SC Voted for Jesse Jackson in the '88 Primary.

Weird state

Let's not try to make some false equivalency between a democratic primary in 1988 & a 2012 republican primary.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Let's not try to make some false equivalency between a democratic primary in 1988 & a 2012 republican primary.

Like the 2008 Democratic primary was so peaceful


Remember this ?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xJmRpLtU__U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[hanso]

Yeah, and your guy has been an incredibly strong President...

C'mon he fist bumped Spiderman.

[sailor]

C'mon he fist bumped Spiderman.

they fisted?

[epo]

Like the 2008 Democratic primary was so peaceful

A primary isn't about peace, its about figuring out who can stand for the party in the general.

So far the GOP has had three states, with three different winners. Let's go back to 1988 for a similar problem, but for the Democrats: Iowa went to Gephardt, New Hampshire went to Dukakis, South Carolina went to Jackson.

How did that turn out?

[SonOfSmeagol]

It must be for arterial motives.

:lol:

[hanso]

they fisted?

Loved when the media called it that back when this was going down.

[sailor]

Let's not try to make some false equivalency between a democratic primary in 1988 & a 2012 republican primary.


A primary isn't about peace, its about figuring out who can stand for the party in the general.

So far the GOP has had three states, with three different winners. Let's go back to 1988 for a similar problem, but for the Democrats: Iowa went to Gephardt, New Hampshire went to Dukakis, South Carolina went to Jackson.

How did that turn out?

wait, so is comparing this to the 1988 democratic primaries false equivalency or not?

[SonOfSmeagol]

it was, then it wasn't. the wonders of 4G

or maybe his obamagoggles are choking his short term memory

[Crispy123]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403775_342376982447289_107699875915002_1294751_395 903480_n.jpg

[Bob Impact]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403775_342376982447289_107699875915002_1294751_395 903480_n.jpg

Wow it's super weird when it's written out like that.

[hanso]

Romney has the worst/best fake laugh ever.

[hanso]

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[Kevin]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397153_365553626803488_108038612554992_1445178_250 541149_n.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

El Gordo weighs in about Newt

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/chris-christie-newt-gingrich-embarrassment-republican-party-article-1.1010047?localLinksEnabled=false

[KnoxHarrington]

Check out the name of Santorum's new PAC:

https://www.ricksantorum.com/unite/images/unite-hdr.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

By the way, here's the link to prove this is for real and not some Onion mockup:

https://www.ricksantorum.com/unite/

[brettmojo]

Gingrich is Cartman, Romney is Kyle, Santorum is Stan and Paul is Kenny because they don't let him talk.

[hanso]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Didnt see the debate,but i did hear that Mitt released his 2010 returns

He made 21MM from cap gains
3MM went to taxes
3MM for charity, Im not sure if that includes for tithing, does the Mormon church require that?


Just was wondering what amount would be his fair share?

[Jujubees2]

Lock it up. Thompson endorses Gingrich

Former Sen. Fred Thompson endorses Newt Gingrich for President (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/sen-fred-thompson-endorses-newt-gingrich-president-article-1.1010799#ixzz1kO4P1FCK)

[Syd]

Didnt see the debate,but i did hear that Mitt released his 2010 returns

He made 21MM from cap gains
3MM went to taxes
3MM for charity, Im not sure if that includes for tithing, does the Mormon church require that?


Just was wondering what amount would be his fair share?

I think the required tithe is somewhere around Catholic levels but considering Romney was a bishop and such, you can be fairly certain he was donating his required amount.

His fair share should be what every other American pays on income if they were making $20 a year, which is probably somewhere around 35-40%

Simply because it is from capital gains doesn't change the fact that it is income.

[HBox]

Didnt see the debate,but i did hear that Mitt released his 2010 returns

He made 21MM from cap gains
3MM went to taxes
3MM for charity, Im not sure if that includes for tithing, does the Mormon church require that?


Just was wondering what amount would be his fair share?

Considering he hasn't worked in at least the last two years the most unfair part of that is making $21 million in the first place.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Considering he hasn't worked in at least the last two years the most unfair part of that is making $21 million in the first place.

Thats his investment income, How is that unfair ?

Someone can win the powerball, not work not even tap into the principle and he can earn money from the interest if its just parked in US Treasury bonds and asavings accts.

[Syd]

Thats his investment income, How is that unfair ?

Someone can win the powerball, not work not even tap into the principle and he can earn money from the interest if its just parked in US Treasury bonds and asavings accts.

You're taxed on savings accounts too. Higher than that of investment income.

Romney is just a freeloader who doesn't pay any income taxes. He's part of the 47%.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well Duh!!!!!


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/206149-union-leader-romney-wants-to-deny-housing-heat-and-water-to-illegal-immigrants#disqus_thread

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You're taxed on savings accounts too. Higher than that of investment income.

Romney is just a freeloader who doesn't pay any income taxes. He's part of the 47%.

He pays federal Taxes on earnings that were already taxed.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of taxes, Obama is parading Buffett's secratary tonight for the S.O.T.U.


We are going to hear the same bumper sticker line about him paying a lower rate.

[Syd]

He pays federal Taxes on earnings that were already taxed.

He doesn't pay any income tax. Also, the money wasn't already taxed because it was generated.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

People are taxed on their income, then they invest it, so if theres a dividend on IBM stock or cap gains from a sale its taxed again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In regards to Romney being criticized for denying services to illegals, he did flip flop. I dont know why politicians need to pander to a voting bloc in their native language. In order to become a citizen, English is a requirement.

[Syd]

People are taxed on their income, then they invest it, so if theres a dividend on IBM stock or cap gains from a sale its taxed again

So if people are given extra money, they shouldn't be taxed? Are raises tax-exempt?

Furthermore, can people write-off lost income as people write off investment losses? Romney gets to do that yet the rest of America who works for an honest living isn't able to write-off lost wages or pay cuts.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So if people are given extra money, they shouldn't be taxed? Are raises tax-exempt?

Furthermore, can people write-off lost income as people write off investment losses? Romney gets to do that yet the rest of America who works for an honest living isn't able to write-off lost wages or pay cuts.

An investment is a risk that is taken.

Did Romney just steal his money? How is it that he didnt make an honest living?


How about this scenario

Theres a 100 million powerball jackpot that you win. The annuitized cash value is 75million, You decide to take the cash value. Its taxed on a federal level at 25%, Dpending which state youre in theres a state tax. Some have none. If your states is 6% That means you paid about 23 million in taxes. If you decide not to work anymore and live off cap gains, dividends, profits from selling property, youre saying thats not honest?


What is a fair share? Millions of dollars have been paid out to the IRS. While its not income from a salary, its still paying for the massive welfare/police/military state.

[Syd]

An investment is a risk that is taken.

yes, but you can also write off losses with that risk which significantly alters how much risk is actually taken

Did Romney just steal his money? How is it that he didnt make an honest living?

Dismantling companies and sending jobs overseas for a quick buck is hardly an honest living. You might as well call street hustling an honest living.


How about this scenario
Theres a 100 million powerball jackpot that you win. The annuitized cash value is 75million, You decide to take the cash value. Its taxed on a federal level at 25%, Dpending which state youre in theres a state tax. Some have none. If your states is 6% That means you paid about 23 million in taxes. If you decide not to work anymore and live off cap gains, dividends, profits from selling property, youre saying thats not honest?

It's not at all honest. You got lucky and won the powerball. Romney got lucky and was born into an incredibly wealthy family. Plus, lounging around like a lazy welfare queen isn't an honest living.


What is a fair share? Millions of dollars have been paid out to the IRS. While its not income from a salary, its still paying for the massive welfare/police/military state.

A fair share is similar to what people making $20mm a year at an actual job pay, which is somewhere around 35-40%.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, but you can also write off losses with that risk which significantly alters how much risk is actually taken

You can olnly write off a certain amount. I think its depending on your bracket
Dismantling companies and sending jobs overseas for a quick buck is hardly an honest living. You might as well call street hustling an honest living.

Private equity firms arent hostily taking over companies, theyre invited, Im not saying its wrong or right but companies do that all the time. Look at all the jobs GE and GM are shipping out

It's not at all honest. You got lucky and won the powerball. Romney got lucky and was born into an incredibly wealthy family. Plus, lounging around like a lazy welfare queen isn't an honest living.

Unless you rob from someone its your money thats being used. Is winning the powerball hard work? No is it luck? yes but its honest.

A fair share is similar to what people making $20mm a year at an actual job pay, which is somewhere around 35-40%.



If you win powerball should you be required to work and take a salary?. What if one day the feds say that 40% is too low ?

[Dude!]

A fair share is similar to what people making $20mm a year at an actual job pay, which is somewhere around 35-40%.

in 2011, romney gave 19.1%
of his income to charities

obama gave less than 1%

Biden gave $369

[WRESTLINGFAN]

in 2011, romney gave 19.1%
of his income to charities

obama gave less than 1%

Biden gave $369

How dare Romney donating to charities and not giving more to the federal Leviathan.

[TooLowBrow]

in 2011,
obama gave less than 1%



he did?

[Syd]

If you win powerball should you be required to work and take a salary?. What if one day the feds say that 40% is too low ?

I'm not saying you should be required to work and take a salary, just don't kid yourself that it's an honest living eating junk food on your couch like some lazy illegal immigrant.

Also with regards to charity; donating to churches can cause ideological issues. Such as supporting child rapists (LDS, Catholics) supporting backwards, third world style views toward sex (LDS, Catholics, Protestants) supporting anti-civil rights agendas (LDS, Catholics, Protestants) or pro-illegal immigration (Catholics, LDS)

With that in mind, who in their right mind would donate to any church? All they're doing it for is to make it look appealing to voters or maybe get some building named after them. Most of that money gets sopped up in "overhead" and very little goes toward those that need it. If you gave a shit about charity, you'd be donating to MSF, Red Cross/Crescent/Crystal or any other number of NGOs instead of a bunch of serial kid fuckers or fat televangelists. It's like donating money to the PRC or something because one time Mao attended a rodeo, and you love rodeos.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm not saying you should be required to work and take a salary, just don't kid yourself that it's an honest living eating junk food on your couch like some lazy illegal immigrant.

Also with regards to charity; donating to churches can cause ideological issues. Such as supporting child rapists (LDS, Catholics) supporting backwards, third world style views toward sex (LDS, Catholics, Protestants) supporting anti-civil rights agendas (LDS, Catholics, Protestants) or pro-illegal immigration (Catholics, LDS)

With that in mind, who in their right mind would donate to any church? All they're doing it for is to make it look appealing to voters or maybe get some building named after them. Most of that money gets sopped up in "overhead" and very little goes toward those that need it. If you gave a shit about charity, you'd be donating to MSF, Red Cross/Crescent/Crystal or any other number of NGOs instead of a bunch of serial kid fuckers or fat televangelists. It's like donating money to the PRC or something because one time Mao attended a rodeo, and you love rodeos.



While its not working on an assembly line or at a desk, it might be lazy but not dishonest. The Hilton sisters happened to be born to wealth. You can argue that getting 100k for showing up at a club isnt hard work but its not dishonest


You can also make a case for a charity like UNICEF. The UN has some questionable motives like blue helmeted soldiers raping people.

[Syd]

I never said it was dishonest, I just said it wasn't honest work. Mitt sits around on government handouts (pension, healthcare and so on and so forth) like any other guy who crossed the Rio Grande and does nothing with his life. Why should he be the President? I'm not more interested in electing Paco Juarez than I am Mitt Romney.

[epo]

in 2011, romney gave 19.1%
of his income to charities

obama gave less than 1%

Biden gave $369

Obama Has Written Personal Checks To Struggling Americans (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/21/obama-personal-checks_n_1019501.html)

Got problems? Tell Barack Obama. He can help. He might even give you money.

On more than one occasion, the president has cut personal checks to struggling Americans who've written to the White House, according to an excerpt from a new book by Washington Post reporter Eli Saslow about the ten letters the president reads every day.

"It's not something I should advertise, but it has happened," the president told Saslow.

That son of a bitch!

[TooLowBrow]

i missed the beginning of the state of the union! does anyone know how obama completed the first sentence... "the state of the union is..."?

[epo]

i missed the beginning of the state of the union! does anyone know how obama completed the first sentence... "the state of the union is..."?

Improving

[jennysmurf]

i missed the beginning of the state of the union! does anyone know how obama completed the first sentence... "the state of the union is..."?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyxz_ZccHnkuHw4MBI6xNi7Tq6dwTyr TMna9rVk67FQhLBru3PNNVfuMnh

[Dude!]

Obama Has Written Personal Checks To Struggling Americans (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/21/obama-personal-checks_n_1019501.html)



That son of a bitch!

yeah, two $3.50 checks...
big deal

we all know how black folks tip...
they are extremely niggardly

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What a pathetic empty suit he looked last night. He just doesnt get it. Still wanting the federal government involved in education. Amnesty for illegal aliens. Having the defense dept involved in clean energy to power homes, having the federal government pay for local roads and bridge building, meddling in the housing market etc

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I learned about sugar beets and sugar canes, thanks to Newt

[A.J.]

yeah, two $3.50 checks...
big deal

we all know how black folks tip...
they are extremely niggardly

I see what you did there.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He just keeps making the most grandiose promises, all of them using Big Government as the means to the end. He has already spent the next 5 trillion dollars! Infrastructure, college for all, investments in solar, wind, batteries. “I will sign an executive order”,Now he says he is giving every homeowner $3,000 to refinance. Fuck the markets.


Now the DoJ will stop mortgage fraud? Eric Holder is going to head another keystone cop section at DoJ, I guess hes not happy suing states for cracking down on illegal aliens.

He spewed no more bailouts or handouts, :wallbash::wallbash:


He wont back down on Mercury poisining but you better buy that CFL Bulb or else!!!!

He talks about leaner gov't but wants to form new bureaucracies with unelected hacks running them.

[Furtherman]

I kinda feel sorry for my righty friends - the ones who will vote (R) no matter what - they have their canditate they want (Romney) that no one likes, the cock-block candidate (Newt) that is embarrassing the party, the turd in the punchbowl (Santorum) and the poor wallflower (Ron Paul) who no one will dance with.

Fact-checking America’s fact creators (http://www.metro.us/newyork/national/article/1079493--metropolitik-fact-checking-america-s-fact-creators)

[Furtherman]

I'm kidding - I don't feel THAT sorry.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The American electorate has been dumbed down to be gullible enough to believe that Obama was the cure to the nations problems and sold a bill of goods which led to empty promises.


The so called conservative opposition front runners are big government Republicans who cant wait to start another war, and have big gov't to suit their needs


We are fucked either way

[WRESTLINGFAN]

i missed the beginning of the state of the union! does anyone know how obama completed the first sentence... "the state of the union is..."?

FUCKED!!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I never said it was dishonest, I just said it wasn't honest work. Mitt sits around on government handouts (pension, healthcare and so on and so forth) like any other guy who crossed the Rio Grande and does nothing with his life. Why should he be the President? I'm not more interested in electing Paco Juarez than I am Mitt Romney.

Mitt does have Mexican roots.


Whats honest work? does someone have to draw a salary? There are so many different outcomes. Example. Someone wins the powerball, lives off interest, dividends and cap gains. Quits his job Doesnt take a salary but does volunteer work for the ASPCA or Salvation Army a few times a week. Should he be trashed for that? Hes not drawing an income from his volunteer work.

[Syd]

That's honest work except an illegal immigrant could largely do the same, making it somewhat dishonest.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The illegal alien didnt pay millions in taxes

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's honest work except an illegal immigrant could largely do the same, making it somewhat dishonest.

That means he will need public assistance to feed his 12 children

[epo]

FUCKED!!!!

I agree. The GOP is fucked either way.

[CurseoftheBambi]

The GOP deserves what's happening to it in this election...a lot of those seeds they sown into public discourse are coming to roost in their piss poor non electible presidential canadiates and I couldn't be happier.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yea like Obama has a great record to run for reelection on :lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So Pelosi has dirt on Newt but she wont say it? Then why bring it up ?

We have a former speaker acting like a schoolgirl in the playground saying she has a secret.


Too bad Newt has so much baggage and is a prick he knows how to retaliate quickly

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now the GOP has its John McCain for 2012. Fuck Newt



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/25/romney-gingrich-flip-flopper-self-deportation/

[A.J.]

Now the GOP has its John McCain for 2012. Fuck Newt



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/25/romney-gingrich-flip-flopper-self-deportation/

He said the rest of the estimated 11 million should be given access to a guest-worker program.

“With most of them? I would urge them to get a guest-worker permit,” he said, calling for a substantial rewrite of immigration laws that would cancel existing penalties and instead let illegal immigrants stay.

But his campaign said it was unclear whether at the end of that guest-worker period the immigrants would be allowed to stay and gain citizenship, essentially jumping the legal immigration line, or whether they would be required to return home.

I've said we should grant guest-worker status to immigrants like they do in the Middle East. The problem is figuring out sponsorship and oversight.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We already have guest worker programs in place. I agree that we need to trim the bureaucracy and streamline the process.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In case anyone in interested theres another one tonight on CNN


I think thats almost 20 debates already.

[Crispy123]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/424827_368753309816853_108038612554992_1453970_836 503144_n.jpg

[keithy_19]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/424827_368753309816853_108038612554992_1453970_836 503144_n.jpg

Fuck em' all.

[keithy_19]

Fuck em' all.

Minus the bottom left.

[Crispy123]

Minus the bottom left.

sure, who doesn't like old Nazi memorabilia.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

NO FUCK YOU OBAMA!!!!!


http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/brewerobama1.jpg



:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[hanso]

How dare Romney donating to charities and not giving more to the federal Leviathan.

That was payment to the alien god and rent for magic underwear.

[A.J.]

That was payment to the alien god and rent for magic underwear.

The tithe is high but he's holding on.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Newts new campaign song


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DC9oQoFk9Rs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Since its Florida this one also


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G1nTIPGdM3g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Did Obama gain 200 lbs and bleach his skin?


Gingrich sounded like him when he accused Romney of being anti-immigrant when the fucking topic is what to do with the illegal alien problem. Mitt was right. Self deportation thru attrition and enforcement, take down the bird feeder

[spoon]

He pays federal Taxes on earnings that were already taxed.

That's complete bullshit, you pay on what you make, not your initial investment.

[spoon]

Speaking of taxes, Obama is parading Buffett's secratary tonight for the S.O.T.U.


We are going to hear the same bumper sticker line about him paying a lower rate.

and even if she makes 200k, completely unproven speculation by the way, she should be much less

oh and to be honest, I hope Buffet would pay his help better than most bc of his wealth and the stance he takes

[spoon]

In regards to Romney being criticized for denying services to illegals, he did flip flop. I dont know why politicians need to pander to a voting bloc in their native language. In order to become a citizen, English is a requirement.

this is so off it's comical

do you have any sense of this country's history?

[spoon]

An investment is a risk that is taken.

Did Romney just steal his money? How is it that he didnt make an honest living?


How about this scenario

Theres a 100 million powerball jackpot that you win. The annuitized cash value is 75million, You decide to take the cash value. Its taxed on a federal level at 25%, Dpending which state youre in theres a state tax. Some have none. If your states is 6% That means you paid about 23 million in taxes. If you decide not to work anymore and live off cap gains, dividends, profits from selling property, youre saying thats not honest?


What is a fair share? Millions of dollars have been paid out to the IRS. While its not income from a salary, its still paying for the massive welfare/police/military state.

You pay on the original payday of course, but you also pay on future payouts bc of investments and right now the rich get their cake and eat it too bc it's a perpetual money maker to just put it there in investments versus other ventures bc the gains THERE are taxed ridiculously lower than any other place. The gains that is, not the original investment mind you. That's the issue, not investing and you know know that's the point just like clouding the argument with semantics and bullshit bc most simply buy any line dolled out by their "religious family values candidates".

[spoon]

yes, but you can also write off losses with that risk which significantly alters how much risk is actually taken



Dismantling companies and sending jobs overseas for a quick buck is hardly an honest living. You might as well call street hustling an honest living.




It's not at all honest. You got lucky and won the powerball. Romney got lucky and was born into an incredibly wealthy family. Plus, lounging around like a lazy welfare queen isn't an honest living.




A fair share is similar to what people making $20mm a year at an actual job pay, which is somewhere around 35-40%.

The funny thing is, Mitt's father was a much different man overall too. He not only dismantled and outsourced, he hid his money in off-shore accounts, including with banks that were in TONS of trouble like USB versus even having his money in the US. He has not love lost for the US, it's all about his pockets and rules/laws/people and the impact on regular people means nothing to him. I don't think that's a good equation for a man that literally brings nothing to the table other than a history of fucking his fellow americans by sweeping in on wounded companies and destroying them all for a buck.

Great point on the doing nothing different than a welfare queen yet making millions, but writing off losses doesn't make the risk go away. You just pay less taxes, you don't even come close to recouping your losses.

[spoon]

in 2011, romney gave 19.1%
of his income to charities

obama gave less than 1%

Biden gave $369

charities...ha!

you might want to research more on where he donated his money, such as multiple Mormon orgs, including BYU and other colleges that than made HUGE donations to his super pac. it's all comical really, not to mention some of it is done just to hit the 10% his religion requires. oh and where did you get this 19.1% number? It's not accurate and completely inflated if you look into the numbers accurately.

[hanso]

Newt pledges moon base by second term.
http://www.google.com/

WTG Newt, you couldn't just suck up to Hispanics on Fla tour like the rest of your cronies.

[hanso]

Considering he hasn't worked in at least the last two years the most unfair part of that is making $21 million in the first place.

Agree with that.

There is that older video when this tax rate came up. When he says he made "A little" on speaking engagements followed by a fake laugh.

Turns out that little was over 300K$.

[spoon]

Did Obama gain 200 lbs and bleach his skin?


Gingrich sounded like him when he accused Romney of being anti-immigrant when the fucking topic is what to do with the illegal alien problem. Mitt was right. Self deportation thru attrition and enforcement, take down the bird feeder

I suppose you came up with that one yourself too?! It's awesome you try to hide you literally get all your fuel from the same shit spots we all know you do.

Can we hear more powerball scenarios compared to aspca/salv army vols please!? It's beyond funny at this point!

[hanso]

The American electorate has been dumbed down to be gullible enough to believe that Obama was the cure to the nations problems and sold a bill of goods which led to empty promises.


The so called conservative opposition front runners are big government Republicans who cant wait to start another war, and have big gov't to suit their needs


We are fucked either way

Not 'so called' they all are, very much so. With the tax codes they want put in place (to the rich) along with promised budget slashes. The only way to support it would be to cut everything else by half. (other than the big 3)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

this is so off it's comical

do you have any sense of this country's history?

How so?


Yea millions of people came here from foreign countries legally. They passed thru Ellis island.



Today, hop a fence or overstay your visa and you might get rewarded some day

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I suppose you came up with that one yourself too?! It's awesome you try to hide you literally get all your fuel from the same shit spots we all know you do.

Can we hear more powerball scenarios compared to aspca/salv army vols please!? It's beyond funny at this point!

Why do illegals come here? For work welfare and instant citizenship for their anchor babies.



Take away the incentives, make life so difficult for them by not having those magnets &they dont have these opportunities boom!! They leave. or they all scatter to California.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's complete bullshit, you pay on what you make, not your initial investment.

Whos arguing that? Im saying the money earned to invest was already taxed

[spoon]

How so?


Yea millions of people came here from foreign countries legally. They passed thru Ellis island.



Today, hop a fence or overstay your visa and you might get rewarded some day

how so? you think english is our national language and should be a requirement. did you forget that part too?

[spoon]

Whos arguing that? Im saying the money earned to invest was already taxed

yah great, but the NEW money earned is what's taxed, not the initial investment so it's INCOME overall. just as if you bought a business that nets you money, you pay tax on those earnings, one should pay at normal levels here with their market net gains. instead, people are paying way less and you claim it's double taxed which it's not

[spoon]

Why do illegals come here? For work welfare and instant citizenship for their anchor babies.



Take away the incentives, make life so difficult for them by not having those magnets &they dont have these opportunities boom!! They leave. or they all scatter to California.

no no, I want to hear more on bird feeders, powerball and anchor babies...:wallbash:

insert parrot noise here X

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yah great, but the NEW money earned is what's taxed, not the initial investment so it's INCOME overall. just as if you bought a business that nets you money, you pay tax on those earnings, one should pay at normal levels here with their market net gains. instead, people are paying way less and you claim it's double taxed which it's not

Investing involves risk. A salary is an agreement btwn the employee and employer

[WRESTLINGFAN]

how so? you think english is our national language and should be a requirement. did you forget that part too?

English isnt the official language however what language was the constitution and delcaration written in?


Whats a requirement to become a citizen? What does voting require?

[spoon]

Investing involves risk. A salary is an agreement btwn the employee and employer

and?

who said they aren't?

[spoon]

English isnt the official language however what language was the constitution and delcaration written in?


Whats a requirement to become a citizen? What does voting require?

but what do those documents actually say and what does it mean? you understand english and their point seemingly has completely escaped you

language is not prerequisite

[WRESTLINGFAN]

but what do those documents actually say and what does it mean? you understand english and their point seemingly has completely escaped you

language is not prerequisite

If you're here and dont speak the language, how are you supposed to understand what those documents mean.

English is a requirement for naturalization.

[spoon]

If you're here and dont speak the language, how are you supposed to understand what those documents mean.

English is a requirement for naturalization.

God knows there are clearly no way to find things in another language these days, much less translate anything right?

As for naturalization, it is a process, not some instantaneous event.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

God knows there are clearly no way to find things in another language these days, much less translate anything right?

As for naturalization, it is a process, not some instantaneous event.

Government forms, applications, voting pamphlets should not be in dozens of languages. Its costly, redundant and should only be in English.


Speak whatever language you want but if you want to participate in the democratic process there should be an understanding of English


Same thing for running for office


http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-candidate-appeals-english-ability-court-decision-035003512.html

[spoon]

Government forms, applications, voting pamphlets should not be in dozens of languages. Its costly, redundant and should only be in English.


Speak whatever language you want but if you want to participate in the democratic process there should be an understanding of English


Same thing for running for office


http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-candidate-appeals-english-ability-court-decision-035003512.html

yes hitting print is tough in more than one language right?

God really fucked us with that whole tower of babel thing huh!

[epo]

Government forms, applications, voting pamphlets should not be in dozens of languages. Its costly, redundant and should only be in English.

Speak whatever language you want but if you want to participate in the democratic process there should be an understanding of English

Same thing for running for office

http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-candidate-appeals-english-ability-court-decision-035003512.html

Wanna bet Stormfront has a thread on this topic for you?

[epo]

yes hitting print is tough in more than one language right?

God really fucked us with that whole tower of babel thing huh!

Xenophobia is fun in a nation that is a melting pot.

http://petercavanaugh.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/no-irish-need-apply.gif

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wanna bet Stormfront has a thread on this topic for you?

You bring up that site a lot.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Xenophobia is fun in a nation that is a melting pot.

http://petercavanaugh.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/no-irish-need-apply.gif

We are talking about legal vs Illegal immigration. Ya know theres a difference right?

[epo]

You bring up that site a lot.

Your racist ilk post there a lot.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Your racist ilk post there a lot.



Awwww racist. How quaint.

[epo]

Awwww racist. How quaint.

Being a racist like yourself isn't quaint. Its pathetic.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Being a racist like yourself isn't quaint. Its pathetic.

Im gonna be the bigger man and just dismiss your comments. Im immune to the cheap bumpersticker lines you constantly throw out.



Wanna talk racism?


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/182209-cbc-chairman-if-obama-wasnt-in-office-we-would-be-marching-on-white-house

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Racism


FDR imprisons Japanese during WW2


Woodrow Wilson resegregates the Military.

LBJ Blocks civil rights in 1957 as Sentate Majority leader


“White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”
- Rev. Al Sharpton


I mean, you’ve got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
- Joe Biden (referring to Barack Obama)

[epo]

Racism


FDR imprisons Japanese during WW2


Woodrow Wilson resegregates the Military.

LBJ Blocks civil rights in 1957 as Sentate Majority leader


“White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”
- Rev. Al Sharpton


I mean, you’ve got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
- Joe Biden (referring to Barack Obama)

This isn't about history or politicians.

This is about YOU. You are nothing more than a cheap racist hack.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This isn't about history or politicians.

This is about YOU. You are nothing more than a cheap racist hack.

Youre the cheap hack spewing tired lines of racist.

As usual you throw that line out when you cant even make an informed comment.

If someone is opposed to illegal immigration you have that cheap notion that "THEY HATE MEXICANS"

People like you are the dime a dozen kind. You would be welcomed with open arms in Mecha, and La Raza.


People like you are the cheap hacks. Calling anyone that disagrees with you a racist. So much for the open minded type to claim to be


When you cant break the argument you result to namecalling. Your kind loves to do that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Theres an article of Mitt leading the Latino vote in Florida. Amazing how they love to put all People with Spanish last names in 1 group.


All Latinos arent the same. There are physcial and cultural differences btwn people from Latin American countries. Guatemalans are totally different from Cubans in size and appearance. Colombians have art and music different from Mexicans.


They media loves to just put all Latinos in one conglomerate.