President-Elect Obama Thread

[celery]

speaking of axes
it looks like bidens plastic surgeon used an ax instead of a laser or scalpel

someone botched this guys face lift and hair plugs big-time

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080907/i/r2096348575.jpg?

I'm sorry that's all you've got.

No shit - that could be the weakest, most desperate, off-topic comeback attempt I've seen.

[A.J.]

"The sequel is always worse than the original". Damn.

I like this version of Biden.

He never saw The Godfather 2 or The Empire Strikes Back?

[AKA]

He never saw The Godfather 2 or The Empire Strikes Back?

Ya know, "Empire" is not nearly as strong when put under the microscope...I mean, what the fuck - in the same, short amount of time it takes Han, Leia, Chewie and C3PO to hide in the belly of an asteroid sock-puppet and fly to cloud city and get caught by Lando - Luke travels to the farthest reaches of the galaxy, crashes his fighter, becomes friends with a wise lizard puppet over dinner, cram a lifetime of wizard training and get buff, gets pwned by the wise lizard puppet, face down his doppleganger in a hollow tree, get his ship back out of the muck, split and then travel (once again) all the way across the galaxy.

:unsure:

[AKA]

Biden was an axe murderer today:

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WOW! I love that last comment...

"I could walk from here to Lansing and could not find one person who thought this economy was doing well - unless I ran into John McCain."

:clap:

[foodcourtdruide]

He never saw The Godfather 2 or The Empire Strikes Back?

Terminator 2?

[epo]

They say all politics is local and Senator Obama made a nice move this morning in the Great Lakes area:

Obama plan calls for $5 billion to protect, restore Great Lakes (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=794908)

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is promising to push for $5 billion in new funds to protect and restore the Great Lakes if he gets elected in November.

The money would come over a 10-year period from rolling back tax breaks for oil and gas companies, and it would flow toward things such as sewage system treatment repairs, toxic cleanups and wetlands restoration, according to a Great Lakes restoration plan the Obama campaign is expected to release today.

Republican candidate John McCain has signed a pledge to support Great Lakes restoration legislation and work to get the necessary funding, but he has not elevated the issue to the extent that Obama’s restoration plan does.

The McCain people may charge (and possibly rightfully) that it's just spend, spend, spend...but this will play VERY well in the Midwest.

[A.J.]

The McCain people may charge (and possibly rightfully) that it's just spend, spend, spend...but this will play VERY well in the Midwest.

More likely they call it "pork barrel spending". However, since the article claims that McCain too wants to clean and protect the Great Lakes, they'll most likely say they just differ on how it should be done.

[YourAmishDaddy]

If This Joe Biden shows up at the VP debate it's over. The only way Palin could gain ground is if Biden changed his name to "Churlie....Churlie..Churlie..."

[celery]

Not glomming on to people's pain, but this Lehman/Merrill/AIG thing is right in Obama's wheelhouse...it's a game changer

Yep, and the Obama campaign is playing it very well.

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[epo]

The events of the day have made the economy the #1 issue. The Obama campaign needs to continue to pound this issue into the ground and end McCain while they can.

[thejives]

Hey.
As always.
Epo's right.

[badmonkey]

The events of the day have made the economy the #1 issue. The Obama campaign needs to continue to pound this issue into the ground and end McCain while they can.

I wouldn't go pointing fingers too much on this issue if I was Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/09/jamie-gorelick-mistress-of-disaster.html

[DolaMight]

Yep, and the Obama campaign is playing it very well.

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It's an effective ad to the non-thinking electorate but in reality as President if you're presiding over an unprecedented economic collapse, your role is to prevent unnecessary panic overtaking the stock market by reassuring investors their money is safe.

Throwing around scare phrases like "broken economy" is not serving the nations best interests.

[El Mudo]

Nice job Biden...


Biden: Paying higher taxes is "patriotic" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_el_pr/biden_taxes)


:lol::lol:

[A.J.]

Nice job Biden...


Biden: Paying higher taxes is "patriotic" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_el_pr/biden_taxes)


:lol::lol:

Somewhere Walter Mondale smiles with pride.

[hammersavage]

From the article: "McCain released a television ad Thursday charging that Obama would increase the size of the federal government amid an economic crisis. Contending that "a big government casts a big shadow on us all," the ad features the image of a shadow slowly covering a sleeping baby as a narrator misstates the reach of the Obama tax proposal."

Can't get much bigger than the government bailing out some of the biggest, longest running companies this country has in the past week.

[FunkyDrummer]

Nothing funny about Obama losing, funnyman Woody Allen says (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080919193927.ite7zfed&show_article=1)

Sep 19 03:39 PM US/Eastern
US filmmaker Woody Allen, best known for such comedy classics as "Annie Hall," says it will be no laughing matter if Barack Obama fails to win the race for the White House.

"It would be a disgrace and a humiliation if Barack Obama does not win," he told Spanish journalists at the ongoing 56th San Sebastian film festival, where his latest film "Vicky Cristina Barcelona" is being screened.

"It would be a very, very terrible thing for the United States in many, many ways," he said.

Democratic hopeful Obama, Allen said, is "so much better" than Republican rival John McCain, and "represents a huge step upward from (the) incompetence and misjudgement" of the Bush administration.

"It would be a terrible thing if the American public was not moved to vote for him, that they actually preferred more of the same."

On Thursday, Spanish-born Hollywood actor Antonio Banderas, who is also in San Sebastian, said he is backing Obama for the sake of his daughter -- acknowledging, however, that he cannot vote as he is not a US citizen.


Copyright AFP 2008, AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or publication or redistributed directly or indirectly in any medium

[NickyL0885]

Maher brought up a good quote by MSNBC's Chuck Todd. Todd said 70% of the undecided will vote McCain in november. Maher then said "undecided" is just a nicer word for racist. and I totally agree. I know projections show that Obama is likely to win but thats no including the undecided. Also, Obama is winning less women then Kerry did. Dems NEED the women. They need to attack Palin on her issues, not her family or her being inexperienced. Women will look at that as an attack on all women. b/c lets face it, Americans are dumb.

[keithy_19]

Nothing funny about Obama losing, funnyman Woody Allen says (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080919193927.ite7zfed&show_article=1)

Oh Woody. Always thinking about the black face comedy.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Maher brought up a good quote by MSNBC's Chuck Todd. Todd said 70% of the undecided will vote McCain in november. Maher then said "undecided" is just a nicer word for racist. and I totally agree. I know projections show that Obama is likely to win but thats no including the undecided. Also, Obama is winning less women then Kerry did. Dems NEED the women. They need to attack Palin on her issues, not her family or her being inexperienced. Women will look at that as an attack on all women. b/c lets face it, Americans are dumb.

I agreed with Maher when he said "i have no faith in Americans doing the right thing because they are so stupid". But I still think its a waste of time to analyze polling data until after the debates...those really make a huge difference

[GreatAmericanZero]

so on the front page of yahoo is an article about Obama's race and how it might hurt him

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race

my problem with this article is they are talking about whites with a negative views of blacks and that translate to Obama. I think most white people (that aren't full out racists) that have the occasional negative few of black people do make exceptions. White people may clutch their purses around a thugged out black youth or think LeRoy at the office is a bit lazy...but I think when it comes to a Harvard educated well-spoken mullato i think the average "racist" white person would clearly make a differentiation in their mind between him and Bajeebi.

i don't know, maybe there is still people so racist in the world that they have a problem with it, but everyone i see and hear from seem to be more like "big deal, he's black..who gives a shit" at this point

[badmonkey]

Maher brought up a good quote by MSNBC's Chuck Todd. Todd said 70% of the undecided will vote McCain in november. Maher then said "undecided" is just a nicer word for racist. and I totally agree. I know projections show that Obama is likely to win but thats no including the undecided. Also, Obama is winning less women then Kerry did. Dems NEED the women. They need to attack Palin on her issues, not her family or her being inexperienced. Women will look at that as an attack on all women. b/c lets face it, Americans are dumb.

Only an idiot like Maher would beleive that there are any "racists" sitting on the fence struggling to decide between McCain and Obama.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Only an idiot like Maher would beleive that there are any "racists" sitting on the fence struggling to decide between McCain and Obama.

the point was that people who are saying they are undecided are saying they are because they don't want to be thought of as racist. So people that would normally just say they would vote for McCain aren't saying that because they don't want to be thought of as racist. Hence the higher number of undecided voters that aren't going to support Obama in the end

[Ritalin]

the point was that people who are saying they are undecided are saying they are because they don't want to be thought of as racist. So people that would normally just say they would vote for McCain aren't saying that because they don't want to be thought of as racist. Hence the higher number of undecided voters that aren't going to support Obama in the end

I don't think this is true, because the closet racists have created cover so they don't have to look like racists when they don't support him. I'm not saying that everyone should be supporting him, and I can respect someone who just doesn't want to vote for him - well, I respect their RIGHT not to vote for him - but the racists have to Barack HUSSEIN Obama thing to hide behind.

Or they say they "just don't trust him". My uncle in Kansas threw one at me that I had never heard the other day: He doesn't like how Barack and Michelle Obama feel like their ENTITLED.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I don't think this is true, because the closet racists have created cover so they don't have to look like racists when they don't support him. I'm not saying that everyone should be supporting him, and I can respect someone who just doesn't want to vote for him - well, I respect their RIGHT not to vote for him - but the racists have to Barack HUSSEIN Obama thing to hide behind.

Or they say they "just don't trust him". My uncle in Kansas threw one at me that I had never heard the other day: He doesn't like how Barack and Michelle Obama feel like their ENTITLED.

yeah..i was just explaining what Bill Maher was saying

i just can't imagine many democrats not voting for him because he is half-black at this point. I can understand people not feeling 100% comfortable with him not being white...but I can't imagine someone who calls themselves a democrat would rather have 4 more years of a republican in office over some guy that appeals to their sensibilities but is a different race

but maybe im idealistic

[Ritalin]

yeah..i was just explaining what Bill Maher was saying

i just can't imagine many democrats not voting for him because he is half-black at this point. I can understand people not feeling 100% comfortable with him not being white...but I can't imagine someone who calls themselves a democrat would rather have 4 more years of a republican in office over some guy that appeals to their sensibilities but is a different race

but maybe im idealistic

No, I agree with you.

[Sinestro]

They don't call it the "White" house for nothing.

[SatCam]

They don't call it the "White" house for nothing.

he's gonna paint it black!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[scottinnj]

They don't call it the "White" house for nothing.

he's gonna paint it black!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

"I see a White House and I want it painted black!"
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/mick-jagger/pictures/mick-jagger-picture-1.jpg

[NewYorkDragons80]

Biden says no to clean coal (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_No_coal_plants_here_in_America.html?showall) and misrepresents both he and his running mates' stances in the process. That oughta get em Pennsylvania and Ohio. Seriously, is he trying to set the bar low for the debates? Between this and negating his own campaign ads (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gPKpXbDholdZbuAxmrcylwYgJqZQ), there's something self-destructive about his behavior in the past 24 hours.

I know someone from Delaware who is sabotaging his own campaign

[Knowledged_one]

and another classic biden

Looks like Joe Biden, in his interview with Katie Couric, was copying off the wrong classmate’s exam again. He said (video here):

“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘look, here’s what happened.’”

My recollection is that the stock market crash was in 1929. Two problems here: Television did not even exist in 1929, and FDR was elected in 1932, so he wasn’t even the leader at the time of the crash. When Joe was in history class, was he cheating by looking over the class dunce’s shoulder, or does he just make this stuff up? Of course, TV celebrity Katie Couric also didn’t note that Biden’s statement was doubly incorrect. Her goal was a softball puff piece.”

[celery]

I can handle the occasional historical flub. At least he's actually doing interviews.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Biden_80_interviews_Palin_just_2_since_being_named _VP

[NewYorkDragons80]

I can handle the occasional historical flub. At least he's actually doing interviews.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Biden_80_interviews_Palin_just_2_since_being_named _VP

Does anyone think there's any truth to what the caller said today about Biden withdrawing and Obama bringing in Hillary? I'm not trying to be abrasive, but today's Biden flubs were so flagrant that they seemed intentional.

[epo]

Does anyone think there's any truth to what the caller said today about Biden withdrawing and Obama bringing in Hillary? I'm not trying to be abrasive, but today's Biden flubs were so flagrant that they seemed intentional.

I can't imagine that they would be intentional. Just an example of Biden at his worst.

[HBox]

Luckily with what Biden has to contrast himself against he has A VERITABLE SHIT LOAD of leeway.

[thejives]

Luckily with what Biden has to contrast himself against he has A VERITABLE SHIT LOAD of leeway.

qft

[AKA]

Does anyone think there's any truth to what the caller said today about Biden withdrawing and Obama bringing in Hillary? I'm not trying to be abrasive, but today's Biden flubs were so flagrant that they seemed intentional.

Nope.

My dad floated it to me last week, and whenever I hear him talk, I know there's some righty blog he or his niece has just read and is parroting back.

Not that I will call a full on Right Wing Conspiracy, but the hyperventalation leading up to the democratic convention about how Hillary and Bill were going to split it in two, and the sheer depression from the right wing echo chambers when that didn't happen and they knew they didn't have the Clinton oil to fuel their fundraising machines, really makes me skeptical that a Biden for Hillary switch is going to be the big "October Surprise."

[Knowledged_one]

Just wanted to give an update on something i have heard

In Ohio McCain has a 50% to 46% lead over Obama in the most recent poll here in Ohio

And this is a big big battleground state

[angrymissy]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/oh/ohio_mccain_vs_obama-400.html

Spread of all polls is McCain 1.6%, with the most recent being a tie. Still a toss up.

FL, VA, MI and PA still toss ups too!

[Thebazile78]

Does anyone think there's any truth to what the caller said today about Biden withdrawing and Obama bringing in Hillary? I'm not trying to be abrasive, but today's Biden flubs were so flagrant that they seemed intentional.

It's a colossally bad idea to switch a running mate midstream. Policy and websites, yes. People, no.

(Unless the Dems really want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, they'll stick with Biden. So, in other words, with their track record for President the last 2 elections, I can see why it would be believable, but it's still a colossally poor strategic move. No matter how dumb/out-of-touch (etc.) you think Democrats are, I don't think they'll shoot themselves in the foot that way.)

[epo]

Obama will make debate a townhall if McCain doesn't show (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/obama-will-make-debate-a_n_129250.html)

Barack Obama is committed to hosting a public, televised event Friday night in Mississippi even if John McCain does not show up, an official close to the Obama campaign tells the Huffington Post.

In McCain's absence, the Senator is willing to make the scheduled debate a townhall meeting, a one-on-one interview with NewsHour's Jim Lehrer, or the combination of the two, the official said.

Well played sir. Now McCain has to show up to debate & the VP debate will roll on as scheduled.

[celery]

Obama will make debate a townhall if McCain doesn't show (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/obama-will-make-debate-a_n_129250.html)



Well played sir. Now McCain has to show up to debate & the VP debate will roll on as scheduled.

I really can't imagine that McCain wouldn't show up, now that Obama's called his bluff. McCain HAS to show up, and even if he does, it'll be under protest and he'll still look weak. He's really shit the bed with this whole thing.

On the other hand, I can't believe the McCan camp is this stupid. If have a real uneasy feeling about Obama showing up tomorrow by himself to do a town hall. Like he's walking into some sort of trap...

It's just crazy how WWE this whole election has become.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I went to an Obama house-party this week. It was kinda cool. He is going to win by a land-slide.

[epo]

I went to an Obama house-party this week. It was kinda cool. He is going to win by a land-slide.

Ahh...the much talked about Obama ground game that our "liberal media" has no clue about.

Between the house parties and the manner in which they are canvassing their territories, it is quite impressive.

[A.J.]

I went to an Obama house-party this week.

Were Kid n' Play there?

[Jujubees2]

Springsteen, Joel to play at Obama Fundraiser (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26959445/)

[yojimbo7248]

A few weeks ago, I was starting to agree with my wife who thinks Obama doesn't have enough fight in him to win. Now, however, with the Palin looking more out of her league by the day and McCain's bizarre response to the financial crisis and bailout plan, I can't imagine Obama losing. Sure, I have been wrong before about who the US picks as president but it seems like a lot of people are worried about the economy and Palin and McCain just don't seem competent enough. After Bush, the presidential race has been the Democrats to lose since day one but now I have a hard time imaging Obama at least squeaking by. to reiterate, I have been wrong before and sometimes I just don't get my fellow Americans in how they pick leaders.

[AKA]

I went to an Obama house-party this week. It was kinda cool. He is going to win by a land-slide.

Sounds like a really chic party - any chance that Andy Warhol was there?

[Knowledged_one]

People at my work are saying that they wont vote for obama because of his name

and an exact quote

"I dont trust his name, if his name was like Frank Robinson, or Joe Brown then i could vote for him"

Gotta love Ohio

[GreatAmericanZero]

People at my work are saying that they wont vote for obama because of his name

and an exact quote

"I dont trust his name, if his name was like Frank Robinson, or Joe Brown then i could vote for him"

Gotta love Ohio

Ohio people aren't particularly nice. I'll take NY anyday

[Zorro]

People at my work are saying that they wont vote for obama because of his name

and an exact quote

"I dont trust his name, if his name was like Frank Robinson, or Joe Brown then i could vote for him"

Gotta love Ohio

I'd vote for Frank Robinson. Damn he could catch a ball

[KatPw]

Ohio people aren't particularly nice. I'll take NY anyday

So Jason, Andrea, Nikki, and Molly are an anomaly?

[Knowledged_one]

So Jason, Andrea, Nikki, and Molly are an anomaly?

What i get no respect in that statement, oh how you hurt me

[DonInNC]

People at my work are saying that they wont vote for obama because of his name

and an exact quote

"I dont trust his name, if his name was like Frank Robinson, or Joe Brown then i could vote for him"

Gotta love Ohio

My wife heard a lot of similar stuff while visitng the Cleveland area last weekend. Things like, 'I know he probably isn't, but what if he is...' Granted, I've been hearing it here in NC since Obama announced he was running, but that's to be expected.

[angrymissy]

Today @ work

I don't think I'm going to vote for him, I don't know anything at all about him, but on TV they said he was inexperienced.

[KatPw]

What i get no respect in that statement, oh how you hurt me

Sorry, didn't realize you were in O HI O. :huh:

[scottinnj]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/000638.jpg

"Muslin" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin)

I give up.


Edit: STORY HERE (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/10/obama_sign_in_yard_stirs_up_neighbors.html)

Guess what part of the country this story is from?

[brettmojo]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/000638.jpg

"Muslin" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin)

I give up.


Edit: STORY HERE (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/10/obama_sign_in_yard_stirs_up_neighbors.html)

Guess what part of the country this story is from?
Where's an Earth smashing asteroid when you need it?

[DonInNC]

"Muslin" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin)

I give up.


Edit: STORY HERE (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/10/obama_sign_in_yard_stirs_up_neighbors.html)

Guess what part of the country this story is from?

Thanks for the edit, at first I thought the story was fabric-ated.

[A.J.]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/000638.jpg

"Muslin" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin)

I give up.


Edit: STORY HERE (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/10/obama_sign_in_yard_stirs_up_neighbors.html)

Guess what part of the country this story is from?

http://memewatch.com/thelist/archives/pix/morans.jpg

[Knowledged_one]

Sorry, didn't realize you were in O HI O. :huh:

no offense taken you are a good egg in my book

[NickyL0885]

New polls show Obama is killing McCain in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. CNN also says Nevada has Obama leading, as well as Virginia. And that Missouri is a dead heat. Wow.....if Obama steals Florida, then McCain should concede the election right then and there.

[epo]

I give AFL-CIO Treasurer Richard Trumka some credit...he's got some balls....

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That's a man that looked the American blue collar worker in the eye and told them to stop being racist, as it doesn't matter.

[hammersavage]

I give AFL-CIO Treasurer Richard Trumka some credit...he's got some balls....

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That's a man that looked the American blue collar worker in the eye and told them to stop being racist, as it doesn't matter.

Wow, good for that guy. Love Richard Trumka!

[scottinnj]

Damn good speech, long overdue in this country. I'm tired of being polite, constantly waiting for attitudes to "change" and "evolve" towards a color-blind society.

Those who are going to vote against Obama because of his race, irregardless of party affiliation, need to be kicked in the ass and told "THAT IS WRONG!"

[epo]

Obama is officially going for the win RIGHT NOW.

The reason I say this is their new offensive is on Senator McCain's health care plan. From Senator Obama himself: (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14271.html)

“So here’s John McCain’s radical plan in a nutshell: He taxes health care benefits for the first time in history; millions lose the health care they have; millions pay more for the health care they get; drug and insurance companies continue to profit; and middle-class families watch the system they rely on begin to unravel before their eyes.”

To back this up, they will be releasing a number of ads, flyers, etc on this issue in key battleground states (http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/04/obama-mccain-tax-health-care-benefits-radical/) including this ad:

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Seriously, I've been amazed they were able to wait this long until going after McCain on this one, kudos to their discipline.

[HBox]

Another reason why Barack Obama is an awesome human being. (http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html)

Mary Menth Andersen was 31 years old at the time and had just married Norwegian Dag Andersen. She was looking forward to starting a new life in Åsgårdstrand in Vestfold with him. But first she had to get all of her belongings across to Norway. The date was November 2nd, 1988.
At the airport in Miami things were hectic as usual, with long lines at the check-in counters. When it was finally Mary’s turn and she had placed her luggage on the baggage line, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.
-You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway, the man behind the counter said.
Mary had no money. Her new husband had travelled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.

...

-I started to cry, tears were pouring down my face and I had no idea what to do. Then I heard a gentle and friendly voice behind me saying, That’s OK, I’ll pay for her.
Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.
-He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?
Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.
-He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants, says Mary.
She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.

The piece of paper said ‘Barack Obama’ and his address in Kansas, which is the state where his mother comes from. Mary carried the slip of paper around in her wallet for years, before it was thrown out.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leisha_camden/Blogrelated%20stuff/obama08.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Another reason why Barack Obama is an awesome human being. (http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html)



http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leisha_camden/Blogrelated%20stuff/obama08.jpg

I gave a guy 10 bucks once. That's good enough to get me a mayoral gig, isn't it?

[mikeyboy]

Another reason why Barack Obama is an awesome human being. (http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html)



http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leisha_camden/Blogrelated%20stuff/obama08.jpg

Was she carrying it around because she never got around to paying him back?

[Ritalin]

Another reason why Barack Obama is an awesome human being. (http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html)



http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leisha_camden/Blogrelated%20stuff/obama08.jpg

Nice story, but why is Annie Lenox holding that piece of paper?

[epo]

There was a letter written about this housing/financial/subprime mess last year and it goes something like this: (http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/)

Dear Chairman Bernanke and Secretary Paulson,

There is grave concern in low-income communities about a potential coming wave of foreclosures. Because regulators are partly responsible for creating the environment that is leading to rising rates of home foreclosure in the subprime mortgage market, I urge you immediately to convene a homeownership preservation summit with leading mortgage lenders, investors, loan servicing organizations, consumer advocates, federal regulators and housing-related agencies to assess options for private sector responses to the challenge.

We cannot sit on the sidelines while increasing numbers of American families face the risk of losing their homes. And while neither the government nor the private sector acting alone is capable of quickly balancing the important interests in widespread access to credit and responsible lending, both must act and act quickly.

Working together, the relevant private sector entities and regulators may be best positioned for quick and targeted responses to mitigate the danger. Rampant foreclosures are in nobody’s interest, and I believe this is a case where all responsible industry players can share the objective of eliminating deceptive or abusive practices, preserving homeownership, and stabilizing housing markets.

It goes further, but I'll let you click on the link and read it yourself (http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/).

The letter was written on March 22, 2007 by one Senator Barack Obama.

It's shit like this that makes my early support of Senator Obama make me feel right about my decision.

[Dirtybird12]

Jesus man... These are the kind of people who scare the living shit out of me..people like this really do exist? wow.

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[A.J.]

Jesus man... These are the kind of people who scare the living shit out of me..people like this really do exist? wow.

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I hate white trash.

[DiabloSammich]

Jesus man... These are the kind of people who scare the living shit out of me..people like this really do exist? wow.

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Did you guys catch her last set on the Blue Collar Comedy Tour? She fucking killed.

[angrymissy]

That poor American Eskimo Dog. It's like they have a hick version of Pronto driving around on a tractor :(

[Jujubees2]

I gave a guy 10 bucks once. That's good enough to get me a mayoral gig, isn't it?

Maybe in Wasilla, Alaska.

[SP1!]

There was a letter written about this housing/financial/subprime mess last year and it goes something like this: (http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/)



It goes further, but I'll let you click on the link and read it yourself (http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/).

The letter was written on March 22, 2007 by one Senator Barack Obama.

It's shit like this that makes my early support of Senator Obama make me feel right about my decision.

So the fact that he wrote a letter after the known foreclosures were going to happen makes you think he has half a brain? This is a very orchestrated response and released to boost him up since he has no track record like the rest of the democrats in office, hes the perfect patsy since hes never done anything so there is nothing really you could pin on him. Well, he did help get guns banned in chicago and even blames guns instead of the people for violent crimes.

This should scare people away but pro-obama people will be too stupid to see why this is scary:

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[hammersavage]

I bet it's scary cuz their black, right?

It's good to see Sams from 'Lean on Me' making something of himself.

[midwestjeff]

I bet it's scary cuz their black, right?

It's good to see Sams from 'Lean on Me' making something of himself.

I fear the golden boots.

[angrymissy]

So the fact that he wrote a letter after the known foreclosures were going to happen makes you think he has half a brain? This is a very orchestrated response and released to boost him up since he has no track record like the rest of the democrats in office, hes the perfect patsy since hes never done anything so there is nothing really you could pin on him. Well, he did help get guns banned in chicago and even blames guns instead of the people for violent crimes.

This should scare people away but pro-obama people will be too stupid to see why this is scary:

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This must be the "forward this around email" of the day... First of all, did Obama give these kids instructions to do this? Second of all, yes, SO SCARY that black kids are saying positive things about what they want to do in the future. "Take more responsibility for our own lives" - HOW SCARY!

Then they basically do a dance straight out of that gay movie Drum Line, yet people act like Obama himself is creating Nazi Youth. Why is it scary to you that a bunch of black kids are doing a cheesy, synchronized dance while saying Obama inspires them to do something better with their lives?

[A.J.]

I wish I had a white leader to give ME hope.

[Furtherman]

This should scare people away but pro-obama people will be too stupid to see why this is scary:

Scary? You scare easily.

[foodcourtdruide]

This should scare people away but pro-obama people will be too stupid to see why this is scary:


Thank God we have you here to tell us about it. You're so wise.

[A.J.]

I fear the golden boots.

Reminds me of the Golden Lords gang from Meteor Man.

[TheMojoPin]

SP1!'s worst nightmare:

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/s/images/stomp-the-yard-poster-1.jpg

IT'S REAL, PEOPLE.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Reminds me of the Golden Lords gang from Meteor Man.

That's strange, not even Robert Townsend remembers Meteor Man.

Is it really racist to think this is fucking weird? I don't think it's the Hitler Youth, but it's over the top and bizarre and that always attracts attention. I don't think people forwarding this to their friends are "racists" or criticizing it because the kids are black.

[angrymissy]

That's strange, not even Robert Townsend remembers Meteor Man.

Is it really racist to think this is fucking weird? I don't think it's the Hitler Youth, but it's over the top and bizarre and that always attracts attention. I don't think people forwarding this to their friends are "racists" or criticizing it because the kids are black.

If you want to think it's weird, fine. Scary though? People forward it as if Obama instructed these kids to march around for him. Personally, like I said before, it seems very much line that Drum Line / Stomp the Yard stuff.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I wish I had a white leader to give ME hope.

There was.

http://www.archives.gov/press/press-kits/picturing-the-century-photos/images/reagan-at-durenberger-rally.jpg

[HBox]

There was.

http://www.archives.gov/press/press-kits/picturing-the-century-photos/images/reagan-at-durenberger-rally.jpg

There is.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m242/soapblox/zombie-reagan.jpg

[celery]

"Because of Obama, I am aspiring to be the next automotive technician!"

Horrifying! What's this man doing to our country???

My college had a black dance group that looked EXACTLY the same.

Anyone forwarding this around as something to be scared of is no less a hayseed racist than the people in the previous video. This is lowest common denominator shit.

[AKA]

This should scare people away but pro-obama people will be too stupid to see why this is scary:

If you really want to be scared, check out this douche chill video from the primaries...THIS is scary!

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[angrymissy]

If you really want to be scared, check out this douche chill video from the primaries...THIS is scary!

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ew, yes I remember this, it was gross. *shudder*

[epo]

So the fact that he wrote a letter after the known foreclosures were going to happen makes you think he has half a brain? This is a very orchestrated response and released to boost him up since he has no track record like the rest of the democrats in office, hes the perfect patsy since hes never done anything so there is nothing really you could pin on him. Well, he did help get guns banned in chicago and even blames guns instead of the people for violent crimes.



Or the fact that he wrote legislation in 2006 to address the problem and then re-introduced it in 2007?

Why would a man with his current polling lead need a "boost"? Get a clue.

[scottinnj]

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These kids' teacher get suspended for this (http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7588857&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)

[epo]

Hagel's wife to back Obama (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/obama_lilibet_hagel_1;_ylt=AtTemkhF3Y5Jvrxr17H2Cip h24cA)

RICHMOND, Va. - The wife of Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel plans to endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Lilibet Hagel has scheduled a 10 a.m. news conference in Alexandria, Va., on Tuesday with Susan Eisenhower, the daughter of Republican President Eisenhower.

Hagel, R-Neb., has made no endorsement. Lilibet Hagel said in an Associated Press interview that her decision was independent of her husband. She said she didn't know whether he would make an endorsement or whom he would support.

I honestly don't know what to make of this one. I've heard rumors that Hagel is in the consideration for a possible Obama Administration...but this is interesting as it's his wife.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm a little confused about the Obama-Ayers connection. Apparently, they both served on a board together regarding education. What's the big deal here? Am I missing something?

Did Obama put together the participants on the board? Was he in charge of researching board members histories before appointing them? Hasn't Obama spoken out AGAINST Ayers already?

Are they good friends? Have they ever been good friends?

[epo]

I'm a little confused about the Obama-Ayers connection. Apparently, they both served on a board together regarding education. What's the big deal here? Am I missing something?

Did Obama put together the participants on the board? Was he in charge of researching board members histories before appointing them? Hasn't Obama spoken out AGAINST Ayers already?

Are they good friends? Have they ever been good friends?


Both served on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty group.
Ayers once donated $200 to an Obama campaign.
They live within a few blocks of each other.
Ayers hosted a fundraiser for Obama once.
Both were affiliated with the University of Chicago.


Sources: Washington Post (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html)

USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-25-ayers_N.htm)

It's a weak loose association kind of thing, but its really McCain's best chance at this point.

[mikeyboy]

If you really want to be scared, check out this douche chill video from the primaries...THIS is scary!

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The hits just keep on coming...

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[Don Stugots]

I wish I had a white leader to give ME hope.

there was
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/nbc/the_west_wing_cast_photos/martin_sheen/west.jpg

[HBox]

These aren't kids and this isn't about but its still the worst thing to come out of this election.

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[hammersavage]

"Barack Obama has purchased a half-hour of airtime on CBS and NBC, sources confirm.

The Obama campaign will air a primetime special on Wednesday, Oct. 29, at 8 p.m. -- less than a week before the general election."

A little old school politics. I like it, i'm not sure what can actually be accomplished with it but I like it.

On a side note, it's frightening how many right wingers I've heard cry 'commie' or 'Hitler' over the last few days. Hopefully, its just the death rattle of the people who backed this campaign. 26 loooooonnnggg days left. When is the last debate?

[Ogre]

Jay Mohr will get whored because of this...

"On CBS, the Obama special would force a charged airtime for "The New Adventures of Old Christine," which would be pushed back and pre-empt "Gary Unmarried."

[epo]

When is the last debate?

Wednesday, October 15th.

[JerseySean]

WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq... Developing...

Caught this on Drudge. this has been on the net for a while. If this is legit, and they are really reporting on it, Barry may take a hit.

[epo]

WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq... Developing...

Caught this on Drudge. this has been on the net for a while. If this is legit, and they are really reporting on it, Barry may take a hit.

So the Washington Times AND Drudge? Holy cow!

Much research is necessary.

[Sinestro]

Fuck yeah! McCain was right about that one over there.

[JerseySean]

So the Washington Times AND Drudge? Holy cow!

Much research is necessary.

You are saying it cant be legit based on the source? One is a credible news organization.

[IMSlacker]

You are saying it cant be legit based on the source? One is a credible news organization.

Which one?

[torker]

there was
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/nbc/the_west_wing_cast_photos/martin_sheen/west.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/6a/180px-Greg_Stillson.PNG

[scottinnj]

Alright Torker, I have to admit, that was damn funny!

It was the "Hallelujah, Hallelujah" that sealed the deal. I immediately went to Handel's "Messiah" and started laughing at the thought.

[SP1!]

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/192383.html

I love people who defend him at any costs, to say that barrack is going to change shit I would like to know what you are basing that assumption on? He didnt get shit done in his times in Illinois and he didnt get shit done in his senate seats.

I know mccain is part of a corrupt party but why do people think obama is so innocent in comparison? The party he is 100% behind is as bad if not worse and is extolled for some reason that I cannot figure out.

Obama should be looked at cautiously with his connections to the acorn people alone.

[epo]

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/192383.html

I love people who defend him at any costs, to say that barrack is going to change shit I would like to know what you are basing that assumption on? He didnt get shit done in his times in Illinois and he didnt get shit done in his senate seats.

I know mccain is part of a corrupt party but why do people think obama is so innocent in comparison? The party he is 100% behind is as bad if not worse and is extolled for some reason that I cannot figure out.

Obama should be looked at cautiously with his connections to the acorn people alone.



So Harry Reid says something and Obama is bad? Please.

I'd worry about Wachovia throwing the NRCC $8M than I would about Harry Reid. Link here. (http://www.rollcall.com/news/29150-1.html)

[scottinnj]

So Harry Reid says something and Obama is bad? Please.

I'd worry about Wachovia throwing the NRCC $8M than I would about Harry Reid. Link here. (http://www.rollcall.com/news/29150-1.html)

Can you quote the story? I'm having problems loading the webpage in all my browsers, and I'm only getting the first paragraph.

[SP1!]

So Harry Reid says something and Obama is bad? Please.

I'd worry about Wachovia throwing the NRCC $8M than I would about Harry Reid. Link here. (http://www.rollcall.com/news/29150-1.html)

According to the paragraph that can be seen it was a loan, whats the big deal? Its not like they are getting millions pouring in from over seas like obama is and from some countries he supposedly has deals with for if he becomes president. Im still waiting for all those small donations to blow up in his face since it looks very suspicious.

My biggest problem is that people think that if you say anything bad about obama you are instantly racist, its their fucking talking point and its getting old and tiresome, that is what harry reid did, it may end up costing obama the election.

Once again I have to state that neither candidate looks appealing to me, I am just sick of people crowning obama as some kind of saint when hes just as dirty and corrupt as every other elected official.

[celery]

You are saying it cant be legit based on the source? One is a credible news organization.

The Washington Times is the Fox News of printed media. Drudge is doing everything he can to slam Obama.

So far, nobody else has picked up on the story.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&nolr=1&q=obama+iraq+&btnG=Search

[angrymissy]

You are saying it cant be legit based on the source? One is a credible news organization.

The Washington Times is owned and published by the Moonies for gods sakes!

Both liberals and conservatives often refer to the Times as politically conservative. Liberal critics have cited it along with, most notably, the Fox News Channel and talk radio, as epitomizing conservative media bias

It's as if I said, here is what Huffington Post and Keith Olbermann say about McCain...

[SP1!]

The Washington Times is owned and published by the Moonies for gods sakes!



It's as if I said, here is what Huffington Post and Keith Olbermann say about McCain...

Not quite, olberman is a stupid douche who is worse than oreilly and huffington is a bitter old hag that is trying to get her revenge.

This is interesting reading though:
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Obama%27s+associates:+Imagin e+if+they+were+McCain%27s&articleId=d087ad9f-68ff-4b86-94ad-c45e77936007

Now mcveigh is a stretch but still it should make people think, fuck he was friends with people that supported over throwing the government, do you think he changed that much?

[HBox]

Not quite, olberman is a stupid douche who is worse than oreilly and huffington is a bitter old hag that is trying to get her revenge.

This is interesting reading though:
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Obama%27s+associates:+Imagin e+if+they+were+McCain%27s&articleId=d087ad9f-68ff-4b86-94ad-c45e77936007

Now mcveigh is a stretch but still it should make people think, fuck he was friends with people that supported over throwing the government, do you think he changed that much?

Remember when you tried to claim that North Korea never test nukes and were proven wrong then went away for a while? That was awesome.

Remember when you came back? Not as awesome.

[epo]

Not quite, olberman is a stupid douche who is worse than oreilly and huffington is a bitter old hag that is trying to get her revenge.

This is interesting reading though:
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Obama%27s+associates:+Imagin e+if+they+were+McCain%27s&articleId=d087ad9f-68ff-4b86-94ad-c45e77936007

Now mcveigh is a stretch but still it should make people think, fuck he was friends with people that supported over throwing the government, do you think he changed that much?

Imagine if John McCain's career had been launched at the home of a right-wing terrorist such as Timothy McVeigh. Do you think the media would be shrugging their shoulders?

You do realize that this type of hyperbole is making your party look stupid? McCain and right look desperate with this type of shit.

Of course pointing out that Obama is brown didn't work either.

[angrymissy]

Disgusting hayseeds:

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=70321

http://ozarksfirst.com/media/jpg/Obama12008-10-09-1223607224.jpg

[booster11373]

Disgusting hayseeds:

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=70321

http://ozarksfirst.com/media/jpg/Obama12008-10-09-1223607224.jpg

did you need the add "disgusting" to hayseed?

[high fly]

You are saying it cant be legit based on the source? One is a credible news organization.


Which one?


Drudge has admitted his bias and deliberate slanting of the news.
One example was in the 2004 campaign where he deleted 13,000 words between two phrases to make it appear Ge. Wesley Clark said something he didn't, before that he put up a false story about a teenaged girl that Clinton supposedly knocked up, falseley accused Sidney Blumenthal of beating his wife and a couple of years ago falsely announced the death of Ariel Sharon.


In early Sept., 2003, one part of the Unification Church, which owns the Washington Times, bought two-page ads from another part of the company which actually owns the paper and sells advertising.
The ads had interviews with dead presidents talkng about Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

George Washington said he was “deeply moved” to find out “the identity of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon” who George said is “the Messiah.”
Abraham Lincoln said Moon is “The True Parent of humanity.”
John F. Kennedy is quoted as saying, “All of humankind and the U.N....have to accept his leadership and guidance.”

[scottinnj]

Disgusting hayseeds:

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=70321

http://ozarksfirst.com/media/jpg/Obama12008-10-09-1223607224.jpg

I hope Missouri goes Blue in November, just to spite 'em.

Not funny, totally uncalled for and I'm glad to see the light of reason being shined on this level of racist speech.

[BoondockSaint]

Upstate New York county lists Obama as 'Osama' on absentee ballot (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/10/2008-10-10_upstate_new_york_county_lists_obama_as_o.html)

[SP1!]

Remember when you tried to claim that North Korea never test nukes and were proven wrong then went away for a while? That was awesome.

Remember when you came back? Not as awesome.
That is still up for debate but mainly for conspiracy theorists, funny they had that one test then completely backed down but Im not going to argue official government lines. Of course they didnt know about pearl harbor before dragging us into that war and of course that boat was fired on by north korea dragging us into that war as well. I never believe official memos, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

You do realize that this type of hyperbole is making your party look stupid? McCain and right look desperate with this type of shit.
Problem is this isnt the party, this was some NH's papers editorial, dont act like its a memo released by the GOP. Oh and FYI, its not my party I think each side is equally full of shit the mainstream media just glosses over or ignores the double standards, while a lot is a stretch in the article it does bring up a few good points. If it was a GOP candidate with those acquaintances it would be all they could talk about and you know it.

Of course pointing out that Obama is brown didn't work either.
What? Did I miss a sentence in the article or is my find feature not working?

Disgusting hayseeds:

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=70321

http://ozarksfirst.com/media/jpg/Obama12008-10-09-1223607224.jpg
This is one of the main reasons why I dont think obama is going to win, there are a lot of pockets in the US where they will not vote for him simply because hes black. I have repeated quite a few times that outside of major cities there is not a lot of support for obama, in NY or around huge metro areas there is tons of support in the surrounding rural areas he has virtually no support. And the only states that the metro voters really matters is NY and California.

[TheMojoPin]

This is one of the main reasons why I dont think obama is going to win, there are a lot of pockets in the US where they will not vote for him simply because hes black. I have repeated quite a few times that outside of major cities there is not a lot of support for obama, in NY or around huge metro areas there is tons of support in the surrounding rural areas he has virtually no support. And the only states that the metro voters really matters is NY and California.

It would be the biggest upset in presidential election history if Obama lost it with the way he's trending. Combine his leading the polls with how those polls are largely ignoring black communities and people who only have cell phones, segments that are going to vote overwhelmingly for him, this election has been largely anti-climactic for a while now. The "pockets" you're talking about and who would put up that sign were never going to vote for him and wouldn't claim to do so in polls.

[PapaBear]

This is one of the main reasons why I dont think obama is going to win, there are a lot of pockets in the US where they will not vote for him simply because hes black. I have repeated quite a few times that outside of major cities there is not a lot of support for obama, in NY or around huge metro areas there is tons of support in the surrounding rural areas he has virtually no support. And the only states that the metro voters really matters is NY and California.
What really worries me is shit like THIS (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_angry_crowds_9). Pardon if it's already posted somewhere.
LAKEVILLE, Minn. - The anger is getting raw at Republican rallies and John McCain is acting to tamp it down. McCain was booed by his own supporters Friday when, in an abrupt switch from raising questions about Barack Obama's character, he described the Democrat as a "decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."
"I don't trust Obama," a woman said. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."
McCain shook his head in disagreement, and said:
"No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with (him) on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about."
He had drawn boos with his comment: "I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."
The anti-Obama taunts and jeers are noticeably louder when McCain appears with Palin, a big draw for GOP social conservatives. She accused Obama this week of "palling around with terrorists" because of his past, loose association with a 1960s radical. If less directly, McCain, too, has sought to exploit Obama's Chicago neighborhood ties to William Ayers, while trying simultaneously to steer voters' attention to his plans for the financial crisis.



The insane HATRED of Obama by some people frightens, and embarrasses me.

[TheMojoPin]

What really worries me is shit like THIS (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_angry_crowds_9). Pardon if it's already posted somewhere.



The insane HATRED of Obama by some people frightens, and embarrasses me.

This is almost totally coming from people who never would vote for him, and likely never vote for a Democrat, period. The Ayers craps isn't playing with most of the non-Right wing voters. The economy is trumping everything.

[PapaBear]

This is almost totally coming from people who never would vote for him, and likely never vote for a Democrat, period. The Ayers craps isn't playing with most of the non-Right wing voters. The economy is trumping everything.
Oh, I know they never would. It's just the level of hatred and racism that worries me as a human.

[booster11373]

What really worries me is shit like THIS (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_angry_crowds_9). Pardon if it's already posted somewhere.



The insane HATRED of Obama by some people frightens, and embarrasses me.

To quote that crazy book

You reap what you sow

[TheMojoPin]

Oh, I know they never would. It's just the level of hatred and racism that worries me as a human.

Eh, there's always scores of angry/crazy people that want to kill the president. Those people were gonna be there no matter what. Most of this is just a bunch of frustrated cowards talking shit and they won't do a damn thing.

[SP1!]

It would be the biggest upset in presidential election history if Obama lost it with the way he's trending. Combine his leading the polls with how those polls are largely ignoring black communities and people who only have cell phones, segments that are going to vote overwhelmingly for him, this election has been largely anti-climactic for a while now. The "pockets" you're talking about and who would put up that sign were never going to vote for him and wouldn't claim to do so in polls.

Well I dont think you are right about how the polls are conducted, if you go by a couple polls ran here in atlanta obama is going to win the state handily, but the problem is the poll was ran mainly in south atlanta. Polls never really mean a whole lot to me, especially since the sampling is so small that they couldnt possibly have a reason to make their assumptions. If polls were correct then according to exit polling we had president kerry in 2004 instead of bush, we all know that didnt happen.

This is almost totally coming from people who never would vote for him, and likely never vote for a Democrat, period. The Ayers craps isn't playing with most of the non-Right wing voters. The economy is trumping everything.
Yeah to me the fact that someone has ties to that group should trouble people more than it does, I mean have people actually read what weather underground actually did? They are no better than the hicks that supported the unibomber. It shouldnt amaze anyone that people are dumb enough to believe that bush caused this dip in the economy, he had about as much to do with this as I did, what he and the rest of the legislative branch get blame for is they didnt really do anything to reverse the trend. It was coming but most ignored it even dems that spoke out for fannie mae a few years ago talking about how solid they were. There is plenty of blame to go around, how someone is going to fix it is of more interest than who is to blame but people just want to keep pointing fingers.

screw it, Im tired and its past bedtime

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah to me the fact that someone has ties to that group should trouble people more than it does, I mean have people actually read what weather underground actually did? They are no better than the hicks that supported the unibomber.

That's some loaded language. "Ties" makes it sound like Obama was running around with the Weathermen as a kid as opposed to the reality of them meeting several times over the last 15+ years when Ayers had become a college professor and both were working for school reform in Chicago and were both on an anti-poverty board. I love how two guys working (essentially in passing) to combat our shitty public school system and poverty is turned into the nonsensical fantasy of them plotting to take over or destroy the United States.

[TheMojoPin]

Well I dont think you are right about how the polls are conducted, if you go by a couple polls ran here in atlanta obama is going to win the state handily, but the problem is the poll was ran mainly in south atlanta. Polls never really mean a whole lot to me, especially since the sampling is so small that they couldnt possibly have a reason to make their assumptions. If polls were correct then according to exit polling we had president kerry in 2004 instead of bush, we all know that didnt happen.

Kerry didn't have the trends Obama has been showing for weeks now. Not even close.

[A.J.]

Oh, I know they never would. It's just the level of hatred and racism that worries me as a human.

Yes, those were the people that were voting for Hillary during the primaries. I believe in West Virginia, they were referred to by the media as "working class whites".

[KnoxHarrington]

Eh, there's always scores of angry/crazy people that want to kill the president. Those people were gonna be there no matter what. Most of this is just a bunch of frustrated cowards talking shit and they won't do a damn thing.

My feeling is that these crazy hayseeds screaming "Kill him!" at McCain and Palin rallies are doing far more harm than good to the McCain campaign. It's really putting in sharp contrast the fact that there are many people who will not vote for Obama merely due to his race. And I think there are as many people -- and probably more -- who don't want to be like those hayseeds.

The political climate of the past 8 years (and beyond) has really led us to think the "average voter" is stupid. The Republicans are going to pay dearly for misunderestimating their intelligence with this Ayers/ACORN/"palling around with terrorists" bullshit.

[angrymissy]

Those people at the rallies are fucking scary, and sad, but actually, I'm kind of proud that people are seeing through that bullshit this time around. The negativity seems to have hurt McCain big time, where it helped Bush win.

[brettmojo]

Upstate New York county lists Obama as 'Osama' on absentee ballot (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/10/2008-10-10_upstate_new_york_county_lists_obama_as_o.html)

Yes, and they say it's a typo. Fucking scumbags.

General there's a lot of Obama support up here though. A lot more Barack signs than McCain signs.

Disgusting hayseeds:

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=70321

http://ozarksfirst.com/media/jpg/Obama12008-10-09-1223607224.jpg
MORE ABORTIONS!!! WHOOOOOO@@@!!!

[angrymissy]

"Abortions for some, and miniature American flags for others!"

[brettmojo]

"Abortions for some, and miniature American flags for others!"
http://evankeane.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/kang_kodos_hitchhiking.jpg

[AKA]

2000

McCain said that there was a "special place in hell" for the Bush operatives who had run a smear campaign against him.

2004

McCain on the Swiftboaters on John Kerry: "I deplore this kind of politics. I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable."

2006

Bob Corker ad used against Harold Ford, where a white woman (for no reason) says, "Haroldl, call me." Instead of speaking out against it, John McCain campaigned for Corker, and...

2008

John McCain gives his campaign over to Steve Shmidt and Rick Davis - George W. Bush neocons who go to work with McCain in (a) hiring Tucker Eskew, the one who orchestrated the smear campaign against McCain's wife and daughter during the 2000 South Carolina primary, and (2) bringing on Terry Nelson the man who produced Harold Ford ad. Lee Iacocca, a supporter of Sen. McCain, wrote in his book about Nelson: "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?": "What does it say about John McCain that he's willing to make that kind of person the head of his team?"

[A.J.]

Jesus man... These are the kind of people who scare the living shit out of me..people like this really do exist? wow.

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Remember this clip? These are the people that are "scared to have a President Obama".

[mongothetrucker]

I voted absentee on Friday. (due to being a trucker)

OBAMA!

[brettmojo]

I voted absentee on Friday. (due to being a trucker)

OBAMA!
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4127/s460001714584125b9c214emw1.gif

[hammersavage]

I voted absentee on Friday. (due to being a trucker)

OBAMA!

So its at least 1. Good job brother.

[celery]

WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq... Developing...

Caught this on Drudge. this has been on the net for a while. If this is legit, and they are really reporting on it, Barry may take a hit.

Oh yeah, this isn't true, according to the Iraqui FM.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/12/obama-did-not-ask-to-delay-security-agreement-iraqi-fm-says/

But, nice try, Drudge. SHOCKER - he hasn't posted a retraction or a link to this new article. But he has posted a cute youtube video about how Obama likes the word "PIE" (seriously).

OBAMA: LET'S EAT SOME PIE... PIE... AND MORE PIE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZOxqVl5oP4)

[Jujubees2]

Oh yeah, this isn't true, according to the Iraqui FM.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/12/obama-did-not-ask-to-delay-security-agreement-iraqi-fm-says/

But, nice try, Drudge. SHOCKER - he hasn't posted a retraction or a link to this new article. But he has posted a cute youtube video about how Obama likes the word "PIE" (seriously).

OBAMA: LET'S EAT SOME PIE... PIE... AND MORE PIE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZOxqVl5oP4)

I like pie!

http://www.wrensnestonline.com/blog/wp-content/kevin-from-the-office.jpg

[KatPw]

I voted absentee on Friday. (due to being a trucker)

OBAMA!

:wub:

[AKA]

Remember this clip? These are the people that are "scared to have a President Obama".

The problem is they aren't the only ones.

[epo]

The Obama campaign just made their early Facebook work and their cell phone/text message gimmick look like shit:

Obama buys ads in slew of Xbox 360 games (http://gigaom.com/2008/10/13/confirmed-obama-is-campaigning-on-xbox-360/)

Last week we noted unconfirmed sightings of an “Obama for President” billboard in the Xbox 360 racing game Burnout Paradise. Today we’re able to report that it is, in fact, an official advertisement placed by the senator’s campaign team.

“I can confirm that the Obama campaign has paid for in-game advertising in Burnout,” Holly Rockwood, director of corporate communications at Electronic Arts, the game’s publisher, told me via email, noting that EA regularly allows ad placements in their online games. “Like most television, radio and print outlets, we accept advertising from credible political candidates,” she continued. “Like political spots on the television networks, these ads do not reflect the political policies of EA or the opinions of its development teams.”

Examples:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SPTZWgNDT3I/AAAAAAAACsE/I5pgCQOi6ZA/s400/obamavidegame2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SPTZW3kfZUI/AAAAAAAACsM/hZlTMdgT7vA/s400/obamavidgame1.jpg

For more examples use this link. (http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_obamascreenshots.html)

The generational aspects to this campaign are mind-blowing.

[Ritalin]

McCain is now trying to figure out how to advertise on that "Pong" thing.

[scottinnj]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SPTZW3kfZUI/AAAAAAAACsM/hZlTMdgT7vA/s400/obamavidgame1.jpg


Soooo......Speed Racer is endorsing Obama?

[dino_electropolis]

....all women ARE size queens.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94658965

[mikeyboy]

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[Uncle Fezster]

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/10/16/stephen_baldwin_challenges_obama_to_a_bo

Actor Stephen Baldwin has found inspiration in Lindsay Lohan's father Michael - challenging U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama to a fighting match in the boxing ring.

Baldwin reportedly sat ringside in support of Lohan during a recent training session in preparation for his charity face-off with a computer company millionaire in an upcoming slug-match next month.

An outspoken supporter of opposing candidate John McCain, the actor has vowed to leave the U.S. if Democrat Obama is elected into office in November. And he's taking his cue from Lohan in yet another rant against the Illinois senator.

Baldwin tells the New York Daily News: "I'd like to knock some good sense into Barack. I wouldn't hurt him. But if he wins the election, he'll hurt me. He's a cultural terrorist."

[patsopinion]

An outspoken supporter of opposing candidate John McCain, the actor has vowed to leave the U.S. if Democrat Obama is elected into office in November. And he's taking his cue from Lohan in yet another rant against the Illinois senator.


the rest of the baldwin family heaves a sigh of relief

[Marc with a c]

oh doggie

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'm really thinking of leaving America no matter who is elected.

[GreatAmericanZero]

this is the most embarrassed i've ever seen a celebrity do

[brettmojo]

Baldwin tells the New York Daily News: "I'd like to knock some good sense into Barack. I wouldn't hurt him. But if he wins the election, he'll hurt me. He's a cultural terrorist."
Excuse me, Stephen...

http://www.sportsmoviesfanatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/slapshot2-sportsmoviesfanatic.jpg

http://image.maniadb.com/images/album/156/156319_1_f.jpg

http://doubledeckerbuses.org/blog/media/blogs/new/biodome.jpg

And he's calling Obama the "cultural terrorist"?????

[booster11373]

this is the most embarrassed i've ever seen a celebrity do

So far

[KatPw]

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They look like they are having a blast. :laugh:

[GreatAmericanZero]

heres the big joke the hayseeds are saying these days:


Barrack Obama walks through the gates of Heaven and is greeted by God.


God asks, "And who are you?"

Obama says, "Im barrack Obama- The President of the United States.
"

God asks, "The President of the United States?"

Obama says, "Yes, the President- I was elected 5 minutes ago.
"

[IMSlacker]

heres the big joke the hayseeds are saying these days:


Barrack Obama walks through the gates of Heaven and is greeted by God.


God asks, "And who are you?"

Obama says, "Im barrack Obama- The President of the United States.
"

God asks, "The President of the United States?"

Obama says, "Yes, the President- I was elected 5 minutes ago.
"

But you don't become president five minutes after you're elected. Silly hayseeds!

[JAndreaNineSixorz]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/sassy957/GIFs/ibxmqu.gif

[NickyL0885]

What worries me is the hayseeds who will actually try to kill Obama during his Inauguration. You know they will try.

[PapaBear]

What worries me is the hayseeds who will actually try to kill Obama during his Inauguration. You know they will try.
I'm hoping it will bring out all of the nut job racists into the open, so we can round them up.

[vagina envy]

Steven Baldwin just says crazy shit so people know he's alive.

[torker]

Excuse me, Stephen...

http://www.sportsmoviesfanatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/slapshot2-sportsmoviesfanatic.jpg

http://image.maniadb.com/images/album/156/156319_1_f.jpg

http://doubledeckerbuses.org/blog/media/blogs/new/biodome.jpg

And he's calling Obama the "cultural terrorist"?????
Obama was a fag.

[keverlast]

Good luck having a Prez sworn in before the year ends

[PapaBear]

Good luck having a Prez sworn in before the year ends
I will bet anyone a MILLION dollars that there won't be a US President sworn in before the end of 2008.

[Dirtybird12]

Did anyone watch the dinner for Alfred E Smith last night live on CSPAN? It was great.
Mccain roasted Obama and Obama roasted Mccain..and both killed!

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[GreatAmericanZero]

those were some pretty funny clips

Obama must've had the "Letterman writers" write his speech..that material sounded so "Letterman" to me

[A.J.]

Did anyone watch the dinner for Alfred E Smith last night live on CSPAN? It was great.
Mccain roasted Obama and Obama roasted Mccain..and both killed!

Was it as funny as the Bob Saget roast?

[AKA]

Obama must've had the "Letterman writers" write that material sounded so "Letterman" to me

Good point - especially the "Barack 'Steve' Obama" line.

I thought his earlier jokes about his name were pretty fucking funny, though; I also thought McCain did a better job. Kind of disingenuous, however, when (at the same time he's being funny and nice, his campaign is doing the old phone spear gimmick).

[epo]

Good point - especially the "Barack 'Steve' Obama" line.

I thought his earlier jokes about his name were pretty fucking funny, though; I also thought McCain did a better job. Kind of disingenuous, however, when (at the same time he's being funny and nice, his campaign is doing the old phone spear gimmick).

I've always like stuff like this. A bit of levity in the heat of this crazyness helps to humanize these insanely heavyweight politicans.

[epo]

Rumor from the Atlanta Journal Constitution: Colin Powell may endorse Obama (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/news/stories/2008/10/17/colin_powell_obama.html).

Boom goes the dynamite.

[scottinnj]

Rumor from the Atlanta Journal Constitution: Colin Powell may endorse Obama (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/news/stories/2008/10/17/colin_powell_obama.html).

Boom goes the dynamite.


You know, it's such a lock with me if he does. Aside from his UN presentation, I trust his national security wits 100% and if he goes with Obama, it's a lock.

[torker]

Was it as funny as the Bob Saget roast?
It wasn't as good as the Flavor Flav roast.

I did find myself laughing out loud (lol).
If Obama had dropped the joke about his middle name earlier in the campaign he'd be up by 30 points.

[celery]

Rumor from the Atlanta Journal Constitution: Colin Powell may endorse Obama (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/news/stories/2008/10/17/colin_powell_obama.html).

Boom goes the dynamite.

The righties have their spin on this all set to go:

Hip-Hop-Dancing Colin Powell Fuels Speculation He'll Endorse Obama (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/15/colin-powell-fuels-speculation-possible-endorsement/)

[GreatAmericanZero]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/sassy957/GIFs/ibxmqu.gif

this gets so hypnotic to watch after a little while

[epo]

I just wanted to share a photo from Senator Obama's rally today in St. Louis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/muzikal203/Obama/St%20Louis/c98cfdad.png

Obviously its cool that the Senator drew a reported 80,000-100,000 people, hopefully those people stay engaged with the political process after the November election.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I just wanted to share a photo from Senator Obama's rally today in St. Louis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/muzikal203/Obama/St%20Louis/c98cfdad.png

Obviously its cool that the Senator drew a reported 80,000-100,000 people, hopefully those people stay engaged with the political process after the November election.

the other side would either say "that photo was doctored by the liberal media" or "SEE! Obama is a celebrity! do you want a celebrity or a president!"

then they would shake their head and say "we got nothing"

[scottinnj]

...the Senator drew a reported 80,000-100,000 people

That's it? He got a quarter million in Berlin. His publicist is tripping up.

I say we book him on Entourage to get some buzz back into the campaign.

[Ritalin]

I just wanted to share a photo from Senator Obama's rally today in St. Louis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/muzikal203/Obama/St%20Louis/c98cfdad.png

Obviously its cool that the Senator drew a reported 80,000-100,000 people, hopefully those people stay engaged with the political process after the November election.

Big turn out, but let's remember: it's St. Louis.

There's not a whole lot to do in St. Louis.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's official: Colin Powell has endorsed Obama for President.

"He has both style and substance. I think he is a transformational figure," Powell said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"Obama displayed a steadiness. Showed intellectual vigor. He has a definitive way of doing business that will do us well," Powell said.

Powell, a retired U.S. general and a Republican, was once seen as a possible presidential candidate himself.

Powell said he questioned Sen. John McCain's judgment in picking Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate because he doesn't think she is ready to be president.

He also said he was disappointed with some of McCain's campaign tactics, such as bringing up Obama's ties to former 1960s radical Bill Ayers.

I wish that Powell had showed this sort of willingness to cross his party for the good of the nation before he did that dog & pony bullshit show for the UN in the runup to the war, but better late than never, I guess.

Let's see how Republicans spin this. But this really should be one of the final death blows to the McCain campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/19/colin.powell/index.html

[GreatAmericanZero]

heres the video

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he says that thing about "what if Obama was a muslim? why would that mean he can't be president?" that alot of you guys say

[angrymissy]

Let's see how Republicans spin this. But this really should be one of the final death blows to the McCain campaign.

What I've seen already on political message boards is: He's only doing it because Obama is black. :huh:

[EliSnow]

What I've seen already on political message boards is: He's only doing it because Obama is black. :huh:

I'm sure they also say that "those people" stick together, and are all the same.

[albo60s]

I just wanted to share a photo from Senator Obama's rally today in St. Louis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/muzikal203/Obama/St%20Louis/c98cfdad.png

Obviously its cool that the Senator drew a reported 80,000-100,000 people, hopefully those people stay engaged with the political process after the November election.

Yeah I'm sure the McCain administration is going to need their offices cleaned.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49G0V320081019?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true


:clap:

[KnoxHarrington]

Yeah I'm sure the McCain administration is going to need their offices cleaned.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49G0V320081019?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true


:clap:

Haven't Zogby's polls long called the race closer than anyone else's?

[EliSnow]

Yeah I'm sure the McCain administration is going to need their offices cleaned.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49G0V320081019?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true


:clap:

It's also one poll that still has Obama ahead.

Even if there is a trend where he's losing support, Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama is fairly big and could again start things moving the either way.

Regardless, I wouldn't do clapping one way or another until after the election.

[epo]

Yeah I'm sure the McCain administration is going to need their offices cleaned.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49G0V320081019?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

:clap:

National polling is stupid and Zogby is the worst. You need to look at state-by-state numbers. Try Nate Silver from 538.com (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/). It's the best projection site on the net.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's also one poll that still has Obama ahead.

Even if there is a trend where he's losing support, Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama is fairly big and could again start things moving the either way.

Regardless, I wouldn't do clapping one way or another until after the election.

But it's the duplicitous way that Republicans and McCain supporters have been using the polls all along. If Obama pulls ahead, they come up with all kinds of ways in which the polls don't matter, or those numbers won't work when it's time to vote. "Oh, Obama's supporters won't show up at the polls", etc. etc.

McCain pulls a little close on one or the other of the polls, though, and suddenly that poll is absolute proof he's winning. Which is it?

[epo]

Fundraising for Senator Obama in September.....umm....shocking (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/19/politics/fromtheroad/entry4531134.shtml).

New Donors - 632,000
Total donors - 3.1 million
Total Fundraising in month - $150,000,000

I heard they were going to be big, but I'm floored by the size of those numbers.

[KnoxHarrington]

Fundraising for Senator Obama in September.....umm....shocking (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/19/politics/fromtheroad/entry4531134.shtml).

New Donors - 632,000
Total donors - 3.1 million
Total Fundraising in month - $150,000,000

I heard they were going to be big, but I'm floored by the size of those numbers.

The money pouring in to Obama leads me to think that there are a lot of people out there concluding he's the one and are trying to get in on the act.

That's a number that means far more than Zogby's stupid poll.

[albo60s]

The money pouring in to Obama leads me to think that there are a lot of people out there concluding he's the one and are trying to get in on the act.

That's a number that means far more than Zogby's stupid poll.


Does it occur to anyone that all the incoming cash isn't helping Obama put McCain away?????
Also, none of these polls are factoring in the black factor. Many times people say one thing in public & do another in private.
I have seen estimates that up to 10% of voters will vote the white guy over the black once they are in the voting booth, all other issues aside.
Deep seated uneasyness with black males by white voters.
Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

[KnoxHarrington]

Does it occur to anyone that all the incoming cash isn't helping Obama put McCain away?????
Also, none of these polls are factoring in the black factor. Many times people say one thing in public & do another in private.
I have seen estimates that up to 10% of voters will vote the white guy over the black once they are in the voting booth, all other issues aside.
Deep seated uneasyness with black males by white voters.
Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

As Epo pointed out, look at state-by-state polls, not worthless national ones. On those polls, it looks very much like Obama has "put McCain away".

[TheMojoPin]

Also, none of these polls are factoring in the black factor. Many times people say one thing in public & do another in private.
I have seen estimates that up to 10% of voters will vote the white guy over the black once they are in the voting booth, all other issues aside.
Deep seated uneasyness with black males by white voters.
Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

The polls almost totally ignore black communities and people who only have cell phones, demographics that are overwhelmingly going to vote for Obama. He has a commanding lead WITHOUT those groups being widely polled. Voters also overwhelmingly vote for the person leading in the polls on election day if they're "on the fence." Unless McCain can be that guy, he's screwed. The "black factor" is irrelevant at this point. The people who aren't voting for him due to race decided that a long time ago and aren't lying to the polls in mass numbers.

[epo]

Does it occur to anyone that all the incoming cash isn't helping Obama put McCain away?????
Also, none of these polls are factoring in the black factor. Many times people say one thing in public & do another in private.
I have seen estimates that up to 10% of voters will vote the white guy over the black once they are in the voting booth, all other issues aside.
Deep seated uneasyness with black males by white voters.
Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

A. That cash has been providing him with a 2 to 1 advantage in advertising. In that advantage he has been able to keep his favorable ratings steady while facing a 100% negative campaign from McCain.

B. The black factor is called the "Bradley effect" and it's talked about alot. Not only nationally but even here as well.

C. Senator Obama often talks about his white grandmother. You often see photos of him with his white mother, grandfather or grandmother in ads, stories, etc.

Seems like your problem is with race? Which part of Wisconsin are you from if I may ask?

[EliSnow]

Also, none of these polls are factoring in the black factor. Many times people say one thing in public & do another in private.

Based on that rationale, you can't trust polls one way or another.
I have seen estimates that up to 10% of voters will vote the white guy over the black once they are in the voting booth, all other issues aside.

So if you people say one thing in public but another in private, what kind of scientific proof can these "estimates" be based on?


Deep seated uneasyness with black males by white voters.
Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

I don't see Obama shunning his caucasian side at all.

[KnoxHarrington]

The polls almost totally ignore black communities and people who only have cell phones, demographics that are overwhelmingly going to vote for Obama. He has a commanding lead WITHOUT those groups being widely polled. Voters also overwhelmingly vote for the person leading in the polls on election day if they're "on the fence." Unless McCain can be that guy, he's screwed. The "black factor" is irrelevant at this point. The people who aren't voting for him due to race decided that a long time ago and aren't lying to the polls in mass numbers.

See, this is why I don't really believe in the "Bradley effect" when it comes right down to it. I just think anyone who's decided not to vote for Obama on race alone wouldn't claim they are voting for Obama -- they'd still admit they're voting for McCain (or claim to be undecided), but they'd come up with another reason.

So I don't think that's distorting the polls as much as some would say.

[torker]

I don't see Obama sunning his caucasian side at all.
http://www.bobcesca.com/images/ht_beach_080131_ssv.jpg

[K.C.]

See, this is why I don't really believe in the "Bradley effect" when it comes right down to it. I just think anyone who's decided not to vote for Obama on race alone wouldn't claim they are voting for Obama -- they'd still admit they're voting for McCain (or claim to be undecided), but they'd come up with another reason.

So I don't think that's distorting the polls as much as some would say.

Nah, it does exist.

There's a lot of older, baby-boomer aged people (at least in past elections) who's union would endorse a black candidate, and they'd kind of grudgingly go along with it, because they don't want to be pressured by people in their union for openly dissenting, but in private, vote their feeling.

That's just one example, though. I think it happens all throughout the baby boomer voting demographic.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard "what would my parents think if they were alive"
or "that's just not how I was raised."


The question about this election, though, is whether there's a more representative group of younger voters that off-set it.

There's some indications that there are, at least from the voter registration for this election. So people may not notice it this election. But it does exist.

[mikeyboy]

http://www.bobcesca.com/images/ht_beach_080131_ssv.jpg

I knew it...

MY GOD! HE'S ATTACKING THAT WHITE MAN!

[DonInNC]

Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

I've heard this kind of comment before. There's an Obama ad running here constantly that is a slideshow of Obama with his mother and white grandparents. Is this ad not running everywhere?

[brettmojo]

Fundraising for Senator Obama in September.....umm....shocking (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/19/politics/fromtheroad/entry4531134.shtml).

New Donors - 632,000
Total donors - 3.1 million
Total Fundraising in month - $150,000,000

I heard they were going to be big, but I'm floored by the size of those numbers.

The money pouring in to Obama leads me to think that there are a lot of people out there concluding he's the one and are trying to get in on the act.

That's a number that means far more than Zogby's stupid poll.

I threw a cool $20 his way... I can't wait for my gnarly car magnet to arrive.

Does it occur to anyone that all the incoming cash isn't helping Obama put McCain away?????
Also, none of these polls are factoring in the black factor. Many times people say one thing in public & do another in private.
I have seen estimates that up to 10% of voters will vote the white guy over the black once they are in the voting booth, all other issues aside.
Deep seated uneasyness with black males by white voters.
Maybe Obama should emphasise his caucasian side more instead of shunning it.

Dude I am that "uneasy white guy"... And I'm voting for him. Hell I even left my car and keys with a big black dude at one of those parking lots by Yankee Stadium at the last game and didn't even think twice about it. Guess what, MY CAR WASN'T UP ON BLOCKS WHEN I WENT TO LEAVE!!!

Now my parents, or my fiance's parents... That might be a different story. But they've registered record numbers of new voters for a reason... And it's not because Sarah Palin is a hockey mom.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I can change... And they can change... EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE!!!

http://www.stallonezone.com/rocky4Pruitt.jpg

[Jujubees2]

Another thing that is going under the rader is that all these polls are done via calls to land lines. There are more and moere homes that are doing away with their land lines and using only cell phones. Those households tend to be younger and younger voters tend to support Obama.

[epo]

General Colin Powell piles on:

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I knew it...

MY GOD! HE'S ATTACKING THAT WHITE MAN!

He's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

Sorry, that's SO wrong but I could resist. For the record I'm voting for Obama.

The fact that Powell is supporting Obama is the nail in the coffin for Republicans. I know people are saying it's just one black man voting for another black man, but, in reality, it's one rational and smart man voting for another rational and smart man.

[TooLowBrow]

He's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

Sorry, that's SO wrong but I could resist. For the record I'm voting for Obama.

The fact that Powell is supporting Obama is the nail in the coffin for Republicans. I know people are saying it's just one black man voting for another black man, but, in reality, it's one rational and smart man voting for another rational and smart man.
i just think, if he went for the iraq bullshit so quickly, what took him so long to jump onto this bandwagon. sorry, he might be smart but all i'll ever see is a sheep

[SP1!]

Nah, it does exist.

There's a lot of older, baby-boomer aged people (at least in past elections) who's union would endorse a black candidate, and they'd kind of grudgingly go along with it, because they don't want to be pressured by people in their union for openly dissenting, but in private, vote their feeling.

That's just one example, though. I think it happens all throughout the baby boomer voting demographic.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard "what would my parents think if they were alive"
or "that's just not how I was raised."


The question about this election, though, is whether there's a more representative group of younger voters that off-set it.

There's some indications that there are, at least from the voter registration for this election. So people may not notice it this election. But it does exist.

I could see that happening with a lot of union guys, I dont know if some of you have worked around them or not but they are not the most race friendly people in the world if you know what I mean. It may not be a huge effect but it could be enough to cause obama to lose.

And I dont see why powell saying he is voting for him is a big deal, its well known that he had a falling out with the bush campaign. Even if he was with them previously why does it matter? This is the same guy that the democrats were demonizing a few years ago but now they want to embrace him just because he support their guy?

[BlackSpider]

I could see that happening with a lot of union guys, I dont know if some of you have worked around them or not but they are not the most race friendly people in the world if you know what I mean. It may not be a huge effect but it could be enough to cause obama to lose.

And I dont see why powell saying he is voting for him is a big deal, its well known that he had a falling out with the bush campaign. Even if he was with them previously why does it matter? This is the same guy that the democrats were demonizing a few years ago but now they want to embrace him just because he support their guy?

I guess all us "union guys" are the same.
That's the same line of thinking that makes racism work so well...

[GreatAmericanZero]

people always talk about the "bradley effect", but what about the "hes one of the good ones" effect?

I think a lot of people feel that way. They may hate the thugged out hoodrat down the street, but white people will tend to really really like "one of the good ones"

I'll also call this the Morgan Freeman Effect

[DiabloSammich]

I knew there has been a lot of talk about Obama pushing the envelope on new and creative ways to campaign, things that haven't necessarily been used in presidential elections before, but so far nothing has shocked me.

Until this...

"Obama is pushing early voting on a grand scale, in speeches, e-mails, a Web site and even ads placed inside video games. Eighteen video games, including the extremely popular "Guitar Hero" and "Madden 09," will feature in-game ads from the Obama campaign."


That is amazing to me.

[Ritalin]

I could see that happening with a lot of union guys, I dont know if some of you have worked around them or not but they are not the most race friendly people in the world if you know what I mean. It may not be a huge effect but it could be enough to cause obama to lose.

And I dont see why powell saying he is voting for him is a big deal, its well known that he had a falling out with the bush campaign. Even if he was with them previously why does it matter? This is the same guy that the democrats were demonizing a few years ago but now they want to embrace him just because he support their guy?

The direct quote to my father was "did you see Colin Powell on Meet the Press today? It almost makes up for that speech about WMD to the UN."

[KnoxHarrington]

The direct quote to my father was "did you see Colin Powell on Meet the Press today? It almost makes up for that speech about WMD to the UN."

I wish that Powell had had the courage to resign rather than give that bullshit speech to the UN, but I'm not going to entirely smash him over it. I think that maybe he knew this administration was going to war with Iraq no matter what, even if it meant going in alone, and he hoped to get at least a little help for what would come afterwards.

Still, though, I think that he shouldn't have given that speech, and I'm not going to let him off the hook entirely. But I think his analysis of Obama and McCain is dead on.

[brettmojo]

I could see that happening with a lot of union guys, I dont know if some of you have worked around them or not but they are not the most race friendly people in the world if you know what I mean. It may not be a huge effect but it could be enough to cause obama to lose.

And I dont see why powell saying he is voting for him is a big deal, its well known that he had a falling out with the bush campaign. Even if he was with them previously why does it matter? This is the same guy that the democrats were demonizing a few years ago but now they want to embrace him just because he support their guy?
Bush campaign? I thought McCain wasn't George Bush?

And the Republics wouldn't do anything like demonize then embrace a guy just because he came to support their guy... Right?

http://freedomthirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/joe-lieberman.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Nah, it does exist.

There's a lot of older, baby-boomer aged people (at least in past elections) who's union would endorse a black candidate, and they'd kind of grudgingly go along with it, because they don't want to be pressured by people in their union for openly dissenting, but in private, vote their feeling.

That's just one example, though. I think it happens all throughout the baby boomer voting demographic.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard "what would my parents think if they were alive"
or "that's just not how I was raised."


The question about this election, though, is whether there's a more representative group of younger voters that off-set it.

There's some indications that there are, at least from the voter registration for this election. So people may not notice it this election. But it does exist.

I didn't say it doesn't exist, but too many people jump on the idea like it has significantly skewed the polls or will allow McCain to pull of an election upset of unprecedented historic proportions.

[IMSlacker]

The "Bradley Effect" doesn't exist, and never did. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_bradley_effect_selective_m.html)

The Field Poll inaugurated the speculation that led to the baseless Bradley Effect theory when, after the 1982 election, Field said "race was a factor in the Bradley loss" (AP 11-4-82). Mervin Field cited no data, but only speculated that white conservative voters of both parties were more undecided and that he may have over-represented minority voters in his polling. Thus, the Bradley Effect was born amidst some major polling errors and a confusing array of mixed predictions, hardly a firm foundation to construct a theory.

Even later analysis of the 1982 election revealed the weakness in the Bradley Effect theory as Bradley actually won on election day turnout, but lost the absentee vote so badly that Deukmejian pulled ahead to win. That Bradley won the vote on Election Day would hardly seem to suggest a hidden or last minute anti-black backlash--on the contrary, it suggests how easy it would have been for weekend polls and Election Day exit polls to get it wrong, since the decisive group of voters had largely already voted before the final weekend and never showed up at the polls to answer the questions of exit pollsters.

[epo]

You knew somebody would do it....

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At 1:10 Pat Buchanan tries out the granddaddy bullshit line of them all to explain why General Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama for President.

Uggh.

[JerseySean]

The "Bradley Effect" doesn't exist, and never did. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_bradley_effect_selective_m.html)

Yea, thats an operative trying to talk about a great strategy. Look at Doug Wilder in VA. That was even more dramatic. Check out the following link.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/003/391lpcdh.asp

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/102008/10122008/416362


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[TheMojoPin]

The Wilder Effect is similarly debunked along with the Bradley Effect. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/persistent-myth-of-bradley-effect.html)

Really, it is. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/bad-math-and-bradley-effect.html)

Most damning for the Wilder Effect is that the scenario it is hinged on is 20 years old.

[NewYorkDragons80]

people always talk about the "bradley effect", but what about the "hes one of the good ones" effect?

I think a lot of people feel that way. They may hate the thugged out hoodrat down the street, but white people will tend to really really like "one of the good ones"

I'll also call this the Morgan Freeman Effect

Like they talked about on the show last Monday, there's a certain degree of peer pressure for people between 18 and 35 to vote for Obama. The same was true for Kerry, and even the exit pols showed him with a commanding lead, but the youth vote is incredibly shaky and I wouldn't count on it. McCain's only down by 5 on average, and if he can narrow that to 3 within the next week, he has a really strong chance. Not only because he'd be within the margin of error, but because the media has all but proclaimed the election over and many would-be Obama voters consider voting a formality with the blowout that's being predicted. I know the Obama campaign is a well-oiled machine, but can they overcome that possible apathy of arranging a bus who would consider a ride to the voting booth a waste of time at this point?

[EliSnow]

Bush campaign? I thought McCain wasn't George Bush?

And the Republics wouldn't do anything like demonize then embrace a guy just because he came to support their guy... Right?

http://freedomthirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/joe-lieberman.jpg

http://iplayalot.com/gifs/OhSnap.gif

[EliSnow]

And I dont see why powell saying he is voting for him is a big deal, its well known that he had a falling out with the bush campaign. Even if he was with them previously why does it matter? This is the same guy that the democrats were demonizing a few years ago but now they want to embrace him just because he support their guy?

There's a difference between embracing a guy and analyzing what the guy's position means for the McCain campaign. If the people who ordinarily would support a Republican nominee are criticizing the nominee or coming out and saying that they are going to vote for the democrat rep, that's not a good sign.

Similarly, when you have a number of conservative writers (George Will among others) who are criticizing the choice of Sarah Palin, it's not a good sign because those guys are the guys who are supposed to be supporting the republican nominee, given their affiliations. If democrats point this out, it doesn't mean that they are embracing the viewpoints of these writers, it means that they are pointing out a problem a candidate has when even the people supposed to support the candidate don't.

If these people who have a party affiliation with McCain criticize his choices, don't support him, or say outright they aren't going to vote for him, what do you think your average unaffiliated moderate voter is going to feel?

Historians point to Reagan winning in part because he convinced conservative democrats to vote for him. Having members of your party vote for your opponent is not a good thing.

[TheMojoPin]

Like they talked about on the show last Monday, there's a certain degree of peer pressure for people between 18 and 35 to vote for Obama. The same was true for Kerry, and even the exit pols showed him with a commanding lead, but the youth vote is incredibly shaky and I wouldn't count on it. McCain's only down by 5 on average, and if he can narrow that to 3 within the next week, he has a really strong chance. Not only because he'd be within the margin of error, but because the media has all but proclaimed the election over and many would-be Obama voters consider voting a formality with the blowout that's being predicted. I know the Obama campaign is a well-oiled machine, but can they overcome that possible apathy of arranging a bus who would consider a ride to the voting booth a waste of time at this point?

Large population segments mostly not being polled (people with only cell phones, black communities) that are almost certainly voting for Obama to go on top of the lead he has now.

Obama with commanding leads in multiple states that McCain NEEDS to win just to have a shot at making this close.

It's also a fallacy to act like the youth vote didn't come out in 2004...there was a huge surge with that demographic, but it was offset by the Republicans mobilizing the evangelical base.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Large population segments mostly not being polled (people with only cell phones, black communities) that are almost certainly voting for Obama to go on top of the lead he has now.
There are all kinds of population segments that are being underpolled. Why single out racial groups? I belong to a solidly Republican bloc (more conservative than the youth vote is liberal) and I only own a cell phone.

I'm not trashing Obama, in fact I never have, I just think McCain is more in this election than he's being given credit for.

[TheMojoPin]

There are all kinds of population segments that are being underpolled. Why single out racial groups? I belong to a solidly Republican bloc (more conservative than the youth vote is liberal) and I only own a cell phone.

I'm not trashing Obama, in fact I never have, I just think McCain is more in this election than he's being given credit for.

Why am I singling out racial groups? Because the major national polls almost totally bypass black communities. The "black vote" is barely represented in the national poll tracking.

The cell phone bloc isn't all for Obama, but it's mostly under the age of 35, which tends to skew Democratic. That's not saying McCain won't also get votes from the bloc, but it's all but a sure bet Obama will receive more.

[brettmojo]

Like they talked about on the show last Monday, there's a certain degree of peer pressure for people between 18 and 35 to vote for Obama. The same was true for Kerry, and even the exit pols showed him with a commanding lead, but the youth vote is incredibly shaky and I wouldn't count on it. McCain's only down by 5 on average, and if he can narrow that to 3 within the next week, he has a really strong chance. Not only because he'd be within the margin of error, but because the media has all but proclaimed the election over and many would-be Obama voters consider voting a formality with the blowout that's being predicted. I know the Obama campaign is a well-oiled machine, but can they overcome that possible apathy of arranging a bus who would consider a ride to the voting booth a waste of time at this point?
People can't WAIT to vote for Obama... CAN'T WAAAIIIIITTTT... It's an event to most of the 18-35 folks. Like the Superbowl or something. No one is gonna' "Meh..." and stay home.

And believe me, there was NO pressure to vote for Kerry. No one between the ages of 18-35 gave a shit about 2004. MTV and Puff Daddy tried to make a big deal about the youth vote but no one wanted to vote for Frankenstein. This time is different, this time everyone knows the well being of this country is on the line.

[GreatAmericanZero]

People can't WAIT to vote for Obama... CAN'T WAAAIIIIITTTT... It's an event to most of the 18-35 folks. Like the Superbowl or something. No one is gonna' "Meh..." and stay home.

And believe me, there was NO pressure to vote for Kerry. No one between the ages of 18-35 gave a shit about 2004. MTV and Puff Daddy tried to make a big deal about the youth vote but no one wanted to vote for Frankenstein. This time is different, this time everyone knows the well being of this country is on the line.

people forget, in 2004 the people who voted for Kerry werent voting for him because they liked the guy..they voted for him because "he wasn't george bush". this year people actually want to vote for obama

[Zorro]

People can't WAIT to vote for Obama... CAN'T WAAAIIIIITTTT... It's an event to most of the 18-35 folks. Like the Superbowl or something. No one is gonna' "Meh..." and stay home.

And believe me, there was NO pressure to vote for Kerry. No one between the ages of 18-35 gave a shit about 2004. MTV and Puff Daddy tried to make a big deal about the youth vote but no one wanted to vote for Frankenstein. This time is different, this time everyone knows the well being of this country is on the line.


If by "well being" you mean trying to come to terms with a racist past then I agree.

[EliSnow]

If by "well being" you mean trying to come to terms with a racist past then I agree.

I don't think that's what he means, or what is motivating people.

I think what he means is that because of the economy having the worst drop since the great depression, there is more of an urgency to this campaign than to previous years.

In 2004, Kerry almost won, but lost, I believe, because more people believed that W would be better on the "war on terror." Other than that issue, there wasn't anything as pressing.

In this election, you have that issue, but even greater to americans now is the economy issue.

[GreatAmericanZero]

yeah the most i heard from people who voted for Bush was "I believe that you should never change the president during a war".

[epo]

Senator Obama will be temporarily suspending his campaign this week to visit with his grandmother in Hawaii who is reportedly very ill. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/barack-obama-wi.html)

[scottinnj]

Senator Obama will be temporarily suspending his campaign this week to visit with his grandmother in Hawaii who is reportedly very ill. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/barack-obama-wi.html)

I hope they can stabilize her, give her hospice treatment so as to keep her comfortable and she lives to see her grandson elected president.

[A.J.]

yeah the most i heard from people who voted for Bush was "I believe that you should never change the president during a war".

Ask LBJ about that.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Ask LBJ about that.

I cant. hes been dead for decades

[KingGeno]

"Why can'ts we jus' dance it out!"
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w126/ragunax/95da63fb.jpg

[scottinnj]

Ask LBJ about that.

He didn't give us a choice. The pussy quit.

[albo60s]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081022/D93VPI9O0.html

[TheMojoPin]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081022/D93VPI9O0.html

While there are plenty of individual results for Matt Drudge to get excited about (or for that matter the Huffington Post), the fact is that the overall trend in this election is roughly flat, and has been for about a week or so. That is bad news for the candidate trailing in the race, which in this case is John McCain. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-1022.html)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2964743915_8c84158441_o.png

[epo]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081022/D93VPI9O0.html

Just for a reference point, HBox has a thread updated daily with all of the latest polling. It is here. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72910&page=10)

And providing a link without an explanation or a quote is considered a bit rude.

[celery]

I went to see Obama speak in Leesburg, Virginia tonight, in front of about 30,000 people.

He greeted the crowd by saying, "This looks like authentic Virginia and y'all look like a bunch of Virginians" (a nice poke at McCain in reference to this (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_adviser_Northern_Va_not_the_real_Virginia.h tml)). He promised, "If we win Virginia, we will win the general election".

A couple pics:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/cosner/SP_pt6KmNkI/AAAAAAAAAYk/PicChiY5liQ/s576/IMG_0050.jpg
Some friends of Obama were there to greet us at the park entrance.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/cosner/SP_oiCSbIeI/AAAAAAAAAX8/1XsSd7H6Cno/s576/IMG_0062.jpg
Obama's tour vans arrive; and yes that's the winding line to get past the security checkpoint tents to enter the main field by the stage.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/cosner/SP_oidEX4iI/AAAAAAAAAYM/F9slqQxJO_w/s576/IMG_0090.jpg
The main field and stage

[torker]

http://lh5.ggpht.com/cosner/SP_pt6KmNkI/AAAAAAAAAYk/PicChiY5liQ/s576/IMG_0050.jpg
What's with grandma droopy drawers?

[angrymissy]

Unbelievable.

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/smartproxy/www.barackobama.com/images/email/08/oct/rncmail_slp.jpg

[booster11373]

sort of funny

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[angrymissy]

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[Furtherman]

All we need now is an "I got my eye on you!" message to Palin and Ed O'Neil would be king of the internet.

[celery]

Seriously, Drudge.

How the FUCK is this news???

VIDEO: Obama Sneezes on Reporter... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRIjW_6xo4)