2009 MLB Playoffs Thread - "Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?!?"

[cougarjake13]

Because we know how the bengals set that city on fire.

employing felons will tend to do that

[disneyspy]

GRAND SALAMI TIGERS! eat it cleveland

[TheMojoPin]

GRAND SALAMI TIGERS! eat it cleveland

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[burrben]

GRAND SALAMI TIGERS! eat it cleveland

off laffey. it was no joke.

[razorboy]

Holy shit, Crawford is making Varitek his bitch today!:lol:

[cougarjake13]

Holy shit, Crawford is making Varitek his bitch today!:lol:

tied the record


i was hoping he'd try to steal 3rd to break the record

[jessicaduh]

Holy shit, Crawford is making Varitek his bitch today!:lol:

not funny. :(

[razorboy]

tied the record


i was hoping he'd try to steal 3rd to break the record

Did you see that moron fan who stole the foul ball final out from Longo? Longo an Percival were both screaming at him, it was hilarious.

[razorboy]

not funny. :(

I disagree.

[razorboy]

What are the odds Zack Greinke wins the AL Cy Young Award this year? I know it's early, but he has been fucking filthy.

[cougarjake13]

Did you see that moron fan who stole the foul ball final out from Longo? Longo an Percival were both screaming at him, it was hilarious.

indeed i did and he was a rays fan, stupid bastard




did you also see the guy in a rays t shirt going happy nutz when youkilis hit the homer ??

what the fuck kinda shit is that, either be a man and be the sawx fan you are or dont come the game if you're scared to be your real fan self

[cougarjake13]

What are the odds Zack Greinke wins the AL Cy Young Award this year? I know it's early, but he has been fucking filthy.

how that work out for bronson arroyo in 06 ??

[epo]

It must seriously suck to be a Pirate fan.

[cougarjake13]

It must seriously suck to be a Pirate fan.

after 1992, yeh

[Gvac]

how that work out for bronson arroyo in 06 ??

You had to go there?

[TheGameHHH]

What are the odds Zack Greinke wins the AL Cy Young Award this year? I know it's early, but he has been fucking filthy.

all i know is that owning him in a head to head league where CGs are a category......he gives me a boner every 5 days.

[joeyballsack]

What are the odds Zack Greinke wins the AL Cy Young Award this year? I know it's early, but he has been fucking filthy.

Roy Halladay might have something to say about that.

[razorboy]

Roy Halladay might have something to say about that.

Doc certainly has history on his side, but Greinke is obviously the most impressive pitcher in either league at this point. No one else is even close.

[Pestz4Evah]

Dodgers set the NL record with 11 straight home wins to start a season.

[cougarjake13]

You had to go there?

sorry but yeh he was the most recent non #1 type guy i could remember who started as hot as greinke did but didnt sustain

[brettmojo]

It must seriously suck to be a Pirate fan.
Round the three of them up and ask them.

[Snoogans]

http://www.eteamz.com/Finnegans/images/jobu2.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Jeff Francoeur - Super Genius:

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?"

The scoreboard at Jeff's home field:

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/8143/26889/f/959305-Atlanta-Braves-Scoreboard-0.jpg

Delicious.

[epo]

Round the three of them up and ask them.

In the last two games the Pirates have drawn about 18K total. A fucking waste of a stadium.

[TheMojoPin]

In the last two games the Pirates have drawn about 18K total. A fucking waste of a stadium.

Well, they were playing baseball cancer. Nobody wants to see that shit.

[epo]

Well, they were playing baseball cancer. Nobody wants to see that shit.

If classify beating the Pirates 17 games in a row as "cancer", then 29 teams in the league want cancer.

[TheMojoPin]

If classify beating the Pirates 17 games in a row as "cancer", then 29 teams in the league want cancer.

All I'm saying is that it's not coincidence that their attendence plunges even lower when the Brewers are in town. Your guys are like the anti-Cubs/Yanks/Red Sox.

[epo]

All I'm saying is that it's not coincidence that their attendence plunges even lower when the Brewers are in town. Your guys are like the anti-Cubs/Yanks/Red Sox.

I guess when you consistently beat teams with exciting young talent, you demoralize the opposition.

[TheMojoPin]

You're sure as shit not talking about the Brewers.

[Pestz4Evah]

Dodgers set the NL record with 11 straight home wins to start a season.

12 straight. Everything is going well....even Jeff Weaver had a really good outing tonight.

[epo]

You're sure as shit not talking about the Brewers.

Brewers win 17th in a row over Bucs (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090505&content_id=4576286&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

Sure...I'm talking about the other team that picked up 17 in a row over Pittsburgh.

Go do a Wrigley Field bathroom slide, you damned animal.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm surprised Epo hasn't hit Mojo with the Denise Richards 7th inning stretch nonsense.

[epo]

I'm surprised Epo hasn't hit Mojo with the Denise Richards 7th inning stretch nonsense.

Why bother. We all know going to Wrigley Field is like going to Chuck E. Cheese.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Why bother. We all know going to Wrigley Field is like going to Chuck E. Cheese.

You get molested by people in furry suits?

[TheMojoPin]

I'm surprised Epo hasn't hit Mojo with the Denise Richards 7th inning stretch nonsense.

Why bother? It's still a step up from the slobbering wreck of a stroked out drunk that started singing it.

[TheMojoPin]

Brewers win 17th in a row over Bucs (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090505&content_id=4576286&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

Sure...I'm talking about the other team that picked up 17 in a row over Pittsburgh.

Go do a Wrigley Field bathroom slide, you damned animal.

OK, stay with me now...WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT ATTENDENCE WAS DOWN BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO SEE THE BORING-ASS BRREWERS. Nobody is doubting the little non-feat of beating them 17 times in a row.

[epo]

OK, stay with me now...WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT ATTENDENCE WAS DOWN BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO SEE THE BORING-ASS BRREWERS. Nobody is doubting the little non-feat of beating them 17 times in a row.

It is pretty boring to watch your team consistently get your ass kicked. No wonder they don't draw.

[Snoogans]

It is pretty boring to watch your team consistently get your ass kicked. No wonder they don't draw.

then explain why the Cubs do

[TheMojoPin]

One can only assume his response is going to involve some combination of people going to just get drunk and not having jobs. There's also a good chance he posts the Lee Elia rant for like the 12th time. He may be mentally unstable, but he's also quite predictable.

[TheMojoPin]

It is pretty boring to watch your team consistently get your ass kicked. No wonder they don't draw.

Psssst...they usually draw more than they did during the Brewers' series.

*Wink-wink*

*Nudge-nudge*

[epo]

then explain why the Cubs do

The frat boys wanna go to the party...maaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

[TheMojoPin]

See? Good ol' reliable epo.

[Snoogans]

Am I invited to the wedding?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Mike's idea of "fillers off the street" is INSANE.

YOU FUCKING DUMMY - TAKE THE PEOPLE FROM THE UPPERDECK AND GIVE THEM UPGRADES.

[Snoogans]

Mike's idea of "fillers off the street" is INSANE.

YOU FUCKING DUMMY - TAKE THE PEOPLE FROM THE UPPERDECK AND GIVE THEM UPGRADES.

from what I hear the stadium is built in a way that to get to the lower level from the top 3 or whatever, you have to leave the stadium and come in somewhere else. They put up walls and shit to STOP people from moving down

[brettmojo]

from what I hear the stadium is built in a way that to get to the lower level from the top 3 or whatever, you have to leave the stadium and come in somewhere else. They put up walls and shit to STOP people from moving down
No they didn't.

[Snoogans]

No they didn't.

ok ill take that then. Ive yet to be there, but calls to the FAN yesterday were sayin how they made it so you cant move down and walk through

[brettmojo]

ok ill take that then. Ive yet to be there, but calls to the FAN yesterday were sayin how they made it so you cant move down and walk through
It's huge. I mean maybe people just didn't feel like walking but you can walk anywhere in the stadium from anywhere. There's a ramp right from the man hall that takes you to monument park and the bleachers. I don't know if it goes all the way around but I'd assume it did.

[TheMojoPin]

There's a ramp right from the man hall that takes you to monument park and the bleachers.

Hmmmm, very convenient buttfuckery access.

[brettmojo]

Hmmmm, very convenient buttfuckery access.
It really is one step away from a man cave.

[epo]

Christ Gvac...your Reds suck.

[The End]

So, shit on the Yanks and losing to Cleveland. C'mon Sox

[Gvac]

Those Cards ain't so tough.

Looks like my Reds are about to take another one from them.

Told you guys...the Big Red Machine is BACK!!!

[cougarjake13]

Those Cards ain't so tough.

Looks like my Reds are about to take another one from them.

Told you guys...the Big Red Machine is BACK!!!




even the 62 mets won 40 games

[Gvac]

In today's MLB I'd put the Reds' Cueto, Volquez, Harang, and Arroyo against any 4 starting pitchers on any other team.

[cougarjake13]

In today's MLB I'd put the Reds' Cueto, Volquez, Harang, and Arroyo against any 4 starting pitchers on any other team.

ok but what about offense ??



who you got other than jay bruce ??

[TheMojoPin]

The Reds do actually have a very decent young team that should be competitive within a year or two at the most and for quite a few years to come. The biggest thing against them is Dusty Baker and the good chance that he'll destroy any number of those players.

[Gvac]

ok but what about offense ??



who you got other than jay bruce ??

Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto, for starters.

Sure, I'd like some decent hitting outfielders to complement Bruce, but we're building.

[epo]

In today's MLB I'd put the Reds' Cueto, Volquez, Harang, and Arroyo against any 4 starting pitchers on any other team.

I thought Arroyo was great on Wednesday.

[cougarjake13]

Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto, for starters.

Sure, I'd like some decent hitting outfielders to complement Bruce, but we're building.

a couple more moves and the uncertainty of that division and your reds could be the tampa bay rays in 2010 or 2011

[epo]

Aaron Heilman is an awful pitcher.

[TheMojoPin]

Aaron Heilman is an awful pitcher.

Which makes him fit in just fine in the Cubs' awful bullpen.

[TheGameHHH]

Zack Greinke is the greatest pitcher of all time

[epo]

Which makes him fit in just fine in the Cubs' awful bullpen.

Why did Lou trot Dempster out for the 7th when he was already at 111 pitches? Is the bullpen that hideous?

[burrben]

Those Cards ain't so tough.

Looks like my Reds are about to take another one from them.

Told you guys...the Big Red Machine is BACK!!!

hellz yeah

[TheMojoPin]

Why did Lou trot Dempster out for the 7th when he was already at 111 pitches? Is the bullpen that hideous?

Yes and no. The bullpen has some serious problems, but it's just compounded by Lou being functionlly retarded when it comes to managing a bullpen. His decisions in that area are questionable at best when he has a capable bullpen, so when he was a troubled one it's just even worse. I understand not wanting to put Gregg or Marmol in until at least the 8th, but he still could have gone with Patton or Heilman. Both are on thin ice and have had their share of disaster outings thus far, but you're putting them in a much better spot if they're starting the inning with everything in their hands as opposed to dumping them into a situation where everything is coming apart and your bullpen options are limited.

Yeah, that's not the ideal bullpen to have, but it's what they had tonight and Lou cannot grasp that at all.

[Snoogans]

It would be hilarious if Louisville Slugger corked all the pink bats before they gave them to major leaguers

[Gvac]

Come on Cincy!

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/images/thumb/2/2c/Broom_icon.svg/400px-Broom_icon.svg.png

[epo]

If I was Sean Marshall, I would punch Alfonso Soriano in the mouth for his lack of hustle in leftfield.

[disneyspy]

the mojos just tied the epos with one swat

[Snoogans]

If I was Sean Marshall, I would punch Alfonso Soriano in the mouth for his lack of hustle in leftfield.

Id rather be Leonard Marshall

[epo]

the mojos just tied the epos with one swat

What can I say...Jeff Suppan sucks balls.

[cougarjake13]

Id rather be Leonard Marshall

or even we are marshall as the plane's going down

[burrben]

i wish buster olney was my dad

[cougarjake13]

is it wrong for me to wish death upon joe morgan and john miller


so that they can move up orel hershiser, steve phillips and dan schulman

[TheGameHHH]

is it wrong for me to wish death upon joe morgan and john miller


so that they can move up orel hershiser, steve phillips and dan schulman

that seems perfectly reasonable to me. unfortunately for us if it actually happened im sure ESPN would just sign some sort of crossover deal with Fox to obtain the rights to Joe Buck and the whole plan would wind up backfiring on us.

[burrben]

the reds have the third most wins in the national league?

thats right bitches. wildcard here we come.

[epo]

the reds have the third most wins in the national league?

thats right bitches. wildcard here we come.

Too bad that's only good for 3rd place in the NL Central.

[burrben]

Too bad that's only good for 3rd place in the NL Central.

2nd, theyre 3-2 against the brewers this season :tongue:

[epo]

2nd, theyre 3-2 against the brewers this season :tongue:

Don't you still have Dusty Baker managing that pitching staff?

[burrben]

Don't you still have Dusty Baker managing that pitching staff?

:down:

[TonyStark]

Don't you still have Dusty Baker managing that pitching staff?

Isn't he a studio analyst now?

[hammersavage]

Did Bobby Jenks really get fined $750? That will really effect him and put it in his mind the next time he thinks about throwing at someone.

[cougarjake13]

Did Bobby Jenks really get fined $750? That will really effect him and put it in his mind the next time he thinks about throwing at someone.

why even waste the time

[Fallon]

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[TheMojoPin]

Teams with the easiest schedules thus far:

Team Pct. W L
Los Angeles Dodgers (first 32 games versus NL West, Astros and Nats) .43755 508 653
Boston Red Sox (Angels only opponent better than .500) .45248 519 628
Texas Rangers (2-7 versus teams with winning records) .46703 517 590
Toronto Blue Jays (Orioles only AL East opponent before Tuesday) .47103 561 630
St. Louis Cardinals (13 wins versus teams worse than .500) .47915 540 587

[razorboy]

Teams with the easiest schedules thus far:

Team Pct. W L
Los Angeles Dodgers (first 32 games versus NL West, Astros and Nats) .43755 508 653
Boston Red Sox (Angels only opponent better than .500) .45248 519 628
Texas Rangers (2-7 versus teams with winning records) .46703 517 590
Toronto Blue Jays (Orioles only AL East opponent before Tuesday) .47103 561 630
St. Louis Cardinals (13 wins versus teams worse than .500) .47915 540 587

Just keep it in mind.

[Pestz4Evah]

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii426/kensai808/Fire%20Ned%20Colletti%20Now/PedroSandoughval.gif

[razorboy]

Hahahahahaha. Eric Wedge is a fucking idiot. How the fuck do you neglect to put your rookie starting pitcher on your lineup card?

[joeyballsack]

Hahahahahaha. Eric Wedge is a fucking idiot. How the fuck do you neglect to put your rookie starting pitcher on your lineup card?

?

Wasn't it Joe Maddon who screwed up his lineup card forcing his pitcher to hit in place of Eva Longoria as the DH ?

[razorboy]

?

Wasn't it Joe Maddon who screwed up his lineup card forcing his pitcher to hit in place of Eva Longoria as the DH ?

Yeah. I was going on the information that was being broadcasted at the time. As a Rays fan I'll be the first to say that Maddon is an idiot. He listed Longo and Zobrist both at third on the lineup card. Embarassing, but Sonnanstine hit well.

[TheMojoPin]

God, I sometimes miss FJM.com so much...check out this op-ed piece slobbering all over Juan Pierre's knob. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=4174432)

Pierre played 162 games every year from 2003 through 2007, and his lack of an "on-off" switch made it hard for him to accept all that bench time. He didn't win any public relations points in August when the team asked him to move from left field to center to accommodate Ramirez, and he told reporters, "All I've ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They're sticking it to me this year for whatever reason."

FOR WHATEVER REASON?!? How about he's Manny Ramirez and Juan Pierre is dogshit?

After the Dodgers signed Andruw Jones last year, doled out more playing time to prospects Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp and acquired Ramirez in a July deadline trade, it was inevitable that Pierre would be spending more time riding what he calls the "piney woods."

Jones was a bust, but I love the backhanded tone like it's a travesty that Pierre doesn't play as much since the Dodgers have Ethier and Kemp, two players so much more useful than Pierre it's not even funny.

During the past four years, Pierre hit in the .280 to .290 range annually with an OBP around .330. Those numbers reflect a very competent big leaguer, but they won't save a guy from criticism when he's making $44 million on a five-year contract.

Amazing. Juan Pierre's numbers, defensively and offensively, make that contract appalling. Average doesn't mean shit in the grand scope of things when you have the power of a boiled cabbage. His only value is his speed and a .330 OBP is horrendous for a guy whose ONLY value is if he can get on base. He deserves all the criticism he gets because he's a mediocre at best, overpaid baseball player, you moron.

[cougarjake13]

didnt he also use to be a base stealer ??

[TheMojoPin]

Which you have to be on base to do. And you need to pull off at around an 85% success rate or better for it to not be detrimental. If you're not getting on base at AT LEAST a .350 OBP clip AND you're trying to steal a ton of bases you're usually just finding two ways to hurt your team.

[epo]

Not to mention that Pierre's defense is beyond pathetic. His arm has turned so many singles into doubles that its laughable.

[hammersavage]

Rickie Weeks out for the year. Anything that makes epo sad makes me happy

[cougarjake13]

Rickie Weeks out for the year. Anything that makes epo sad makes me happy

wait til ben sheets signs with the cubs

[Pestz4Evah]

Yeah, he blows.

He is playing so above his head (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=pierrju01&t=b&year=2009&share=0.73#1310-13190-sum:batting_gamelogs) right now, Colletti should try to fool someone into taking him off his hands and have Xavier Paul in LF until Manny gets back.

[TheMojoPin]

Not to mention that Pierre's defense is beyond pathetic. His arm has turned so many singles into doubles that its laughable.

That doll arm of his is embarassing.

[TheMojoPin]

wait til ben sheets signs with the cubs

Pass.

[epo]

Rickie Weeks out for the year. Anything that makes epo sad makes me happy

I hate you.

wait til ben sheets signs with the cubs

I'll laugh at that.

[TheMojoPin]

I'll laugh at that.

Please, spare us your haunting, horrible laugh. You make Gvac's awful laugh sound wonderful.

[epo]

Please, spare us your haunting, horrible laugh. You make Gvac's awful laugh sound wonderful.

I know how a man with some bass in his voice scares you.

On a serious side though, this Weeks injury is just a killer. He finally was fulfilling his potential and now this. Fuck.

[TheMojoPin]

Your laugh sounds like you're making a machine gun noise.

[TheMojoPin]

I know how a man with some bass in his voice scares you.

On a serious side though, this Weeks injury is just a killer. He finally was fulfilling his potential and now this. Fuck.

It's karma for gloating over that Aramis picture.

[epo]

It's karma for gloating over that Aramis picture.

I wish. This is a genetic problem that he had with the other wrist too.

[TheMojoPin]

That stinks.

[Suspect Chin]

Anyone see Jon Miller's shirt in the booth last night? I wouldn't normally comment on another man's shirt, but that thing was unbelievable.

[epo]

Anyone see Jon Miller's shirt in the booth last night? I wouldn't normally comment on another man's shirt, but that thing was unbelievable.

I take Jon Miller's choices in apparel as seriously as I do Juan Pierre's ability to play defense in the outfield.

[Suspect Chin]

I take Jon Miller's choices in apparel as seriously as I do Juan Pierre's ability to play defense in the outfield.

May be true but he has been carrying my fantasy team for the last week with his bat.

[Fallon]

FOX announced that the ALCS and World Series will start before 8pm during weeknights. First time the Series will be on before 8 since '71.

About time.

[A.J.]

FOX announced that the ALCS and World Series will start before 8pm during weeknights. First time the Series will be on before 8 since '71.

About time.

Good. Even better if the Red Sox make it that far.

[TheMojoPin]

Right now, Pujols has struck out fewer times than the number of home runs that he's hit.

That's bonkers.

[epo]

Right now, Pujols has struck out fewer times than the number of home runs that he's hit.

That's bonkers.

He takes great steroids.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't give a shit if he is juicing. He's the greatest hitter I've ever seen live regardless.

[underdog]

I don't give a shit if he is juicing. He's the greatest hitter I've ever seen live regardless.

I wish I could watch his HR off of Lidge every day when I wake up.

[hammersavage]

6 1/3, 1 hit for Dontrelle tonight. I'm rooting for him

[Suspect Chin]

I don't give a shit if he is juicing. He's the greatest hitter I've ever seen live regardless.

Saw him live tonight and he is just an awesome hitter with a great baseball mind. I was pissed the Cubs lost but that little blooper he turned into a double was impressive.

[Pestz4Evah]

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[cougarjake13]

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fucking awesome


does he always do that or was it just for that at bat ??

[cougarjake13]

FOX announced that the ALCS and World Series will start before 8pm during weeknights. First time the Series will be on before 8 since '71.

About time.

and theres talk that for the future weekend world series games may be played in the day time

[hammersavage]

Schoenewies' wife found dead. Awful...

[King Hippos Bandaid]

White Sucks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=ArTn9vpXRjwR5eMWu9lcb405nYcB?gid=290 521104)

20-0

http://rowlandsoffice.typepad.com/weblog/images/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

[hammersavage]

White Sucks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=ArTn9vpXRjwR5eMWu9lcb405nYcB?gid=290 521104)

20-0

http://rowlandsoffice.typepad.com/weblog/images/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

But they are getting Jake Peavy for a year for their best pitching prospects.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

But they are getting Jake Peavy for a year for their best pitching prospects.

not if he reads the box score

[razorboy]

Looks like price is being called up to take Kazmir's spot in the rotation. (http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/)

[Fallon]

I just recorded this using my phone, shit quality, but a good clip.

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[cougarjake13]

Looks like price is being called up to take Kazmir's spot in the rotation. (http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/)



bout time

[Pestz4Evah]

http://voteformanny.blogspot.com/

[PD]

Clint Hurdle fired by Rockies.
http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/46482522.html

[cougarjake13]

Clint Hurdle fired by Rockies.
http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/46482522.html

but he just took them to a world series 2 yrs ago

[hammersavage]

McLouth traded to Braves:

After releasing Tom Glavine in what appears to be a move to save salary, the Atlanta Braves turned around and took on money by acquiring outfielder Nate McLouth from the Pittsburgh Pirates.

The Braves gave up pitcher Charlie Morton, minor league outfielder Gorkys Hernandez and minor league pitcher Jeff Locke.

[epo]

McLouth traded to Braves:

We should sell the Pirates to the Chinese to pay off part of our national debt.

[denko]

beckett just gave up a no hitter late in the 7th. he's rocking tonight though.

[TheMojoPin]

McLouth traded to Braves:

Unless there's something up with McClouth's health, this seems like a horrible deal for the Pirates. They definitely could have sold much higher closer to the deadline.

[K.C.]

Unless there's something up with McClouth's health, this seems like a horrible deal for the Pirates. They definitely could have sold much higher closer to the deadline.

For McClouth who's a decent player, they got two of the top 10 prospects in the Braves system this year, and a guy in Morton, who has some pretty ridiculous Triple-A numbers the last two years.

It's not a deal that will knock anyone out with star power, but I think they got about what McClouth is worth.

Plus they cleared the way for Andrew McCutchen to come up and play everyday.

Ideally, you build towards a future outfield of Tabata-McCutchen-Hernandez/Morgan...that's not bad when it comes to ceiling for those players.

Pedro Alvarez is going to anchor one corner in a couple years, Andy LaRoche the other...they've got the makings of a good offense down the road.

The problem is that they have Duke, and then not much, as far as their current rotation, and future starting prospects go.

[Suspect Chin]

Tommy Hanson finally getting the call up. Pick him up in your fantasy league if you can.

[Gvac]

Suck it, St. Louis!

[Suspect Chin]

Suck it, St. Louis!

Does it make me a bad person when I get happy that a Cardinals pitcher gets injured?

[Gvac]

Does it make me a bad person when I get happy that a Cardinals pitcher gets injured?

If it was any other team I'd say yes.

For the Cards, you get a pass.

[TheMojoPin]

For McClouth who's a decent player, they got two of the top 10 prospects in the Braves system this year, and a guy in Morton, who has some pretty ridiculous Triple-A numbers the last two years.

It's not a deal that will knock anyone out with star power, but I think they got about what McClouth is worth.

Plus they cleared the way for Andrew McCutchen to come up and play everyday.

Ideally, you build towards a future outfield of Tabata-McCutchen-Hernandez/Morgan...that's not bad when it comes to ceiling for those players.

Pedro Alvarez is going to anchor one corner in a couple years, Andy LaRoche the other...they've got the makings of a good offense down the road.

The problem is that they have Duke, and then not much, as far as their current rotation, and future starting prospects go.

You basically summed up why this trade was a bad move. Basically nobody in their very middle of the road farm system is going to be ready to step up soon. McLouth was locked up for a while past this season before arbitration. There was zero reason to move at any point before the deadline NEXT year, much less this early. Morton is about the only guy worth a damn in this.

[razorboy]

Well, Niemann was impressive tonight.


And Zobrist deserves an All-Star spot.

[hammersavage]

Pirates still got those Indian dudes?

[K.C.]

You basically summed up why this trade was a bad move. Basically nobody in their very middle of the road farm system is going to be ready to step up soon. McLouth was locked up for a while past this season before arbitration. There was zero reason to move at any point before the deadline NEXT year, much less this early. Morton is about the only guy worth a damn in this.

It's not like McLouth was a draw, though. So why keep him, when you have no shot this year or next year?

He's an interchangeable part, and the Pirates got three decent prospects for him. Hernandez is a decent prospect. The A-ball pitcher is actually the most talented of the three, from the scouting reports.

Huntington's building towards 2011-2012, and he's trying to fill what, you've already said (and I agree) is a middle of the road farm system.

If he can get a situation in 2011, where he has a core of Doumit-Alvarez-LaRoche (Andy)-Tabata-McCutchen-Hernandez-Duke-Maholm, with most of those guys under club control, it's a huge W for the Pirates.

And he'll have most of the club's bad contracts cleared out by moving Adam LaRoche and Jack Wilson next. He'll have a nice core and some money to add a piece or two.

It's not a perfect plan, but it's the most sense the Pirates have made in quite a while.

[TheMojoPin]

It's not like McLouth was a draw, though. So why keep him, when you have no shot this year or next year?

He's an interchangeable part, and the Pirates got three decent prospects for him. Hernandez is a decent prospect. The A-ball pitcher is actually the most talented of the three, from the scouting reports.

He has enough value that plenty of teams would be interested in a player like that come the deadline. There's simply no reason they had to move him now for a lesser deal.

In general this is being considered a pretty crappy trade. It's not a disaster, but it's thouroughly indicative of the mediocrity or worse that the Pirates have pushed for for the better part of two decades now.

I agree they need to restock the farm system, but they could have easily gotten a better haul for McClouth either before the deadline or in the offseason.

[K.C.]

He has enough value that plenty of teams would be interested in a player like that come the deadline. There's simply no reason they had to move him now for a lesser deal.

In general this is being considered a pretty crappy trade. It's not a disaster, but it's thouroughly indicative of the mediocrity or worse that the Pirates have pushed for for the better part of two decades now.

I agree they need to restock the farm system, but they could have easily gotten a better haul for McClouth either before the deadline or in the offseason.

Not if the guy hits .250 for another month with average power.

If anything, the Braves made the deal off of the strength of McClouth from last season.

I'm not saying it's a great trade. But I'm saying it's an understandable trade, and a piece of a larger plan that seems to make sense for that franchise.

[TheMojoPin]

You're a terrible armchair GM. I wish there was some way we could clash constructed teams.

[K.C.]

You're a terrible armchair GM. I wish there was some way we could clash constructed teams.

For what? Thinking a team that's likely going to finish 20 under should deal one of their few valuable chips for prospects?

Sure...that's crazy.

You're just pissed that Dave Littlefield isn't still the GM, and the Cubs couldn't talk him into a Milton Bradley and Kevin Gregg for McLouth deal.

You haven't even presented an argument why they shouldn't have made this trade. And you also seem to have an inflated sense of McClouth's actual value. No one was going to give up a blue chipper for him. They got three above average prospects.

If they dealt him to any other team, they'd have gotten a similar haul.

Teams rarely trade blue chip prospects in baseball now, unless it's for a bonafide superstar (i.e. LaPorta for Sabathia last year).

[Gvac]

I just wish the Reds had a cleanup hitter who could bat his own weight.

[epo]

I just wish the Reds had a cleanup hitter who could bat his own weight.

You might if your first baseman didn't have social anxiety problems.

[TheMojoPin]

For what? Thinking a team that's likely going to finish 20 under should deal one of their few valuable chips for prospects?

Sure...that's crazy.

You're just pissed that Dave Littlefield isn't still the GM, and the Cubs couldn't talk him into a Milton Bradley and Kevin Gregg for McLouth deal.

You haven't even presented an argument why they shouldn't have made this trade. And you also seem to have an inflated sense of McClouth's actual value. No one was going to give up a blue chipper for him. They got three above average prospects.

If they dealt him to any other team, they'd have gotten a similar haul.

Teams rarely trade blue chip prospects in baseball now, unless it's for a bonafide superstar (i.e. LaPorta for Sabathia last year).

It's simple logic: less teams are looking for OF help now then there will be in July. Huntington limited himself and his team by selling McClouth now as opposed to a month or so from now. The odds of McClouth's perceived value plummeting in that time is very slim outside of injury wheras the number of teams willing to give up good hauls trying to outbid each other to get him increases dramatically. Time was not of the essence for the Pirates.

And just because two propsects are top 10 in a system doesn't mean much if the system isn't terribly good at the moment. As a top 10 prospect Hernandez is pretty awful and the other guy is nothing to write home about.

It was unecessary for the Pirates to trade a guy with McClouth's perceived value now and the return they got for him is pretty middling. Just another in a long line of terrible moves by one of the very worst front offices in all of baseball.

[SP1!]

For McClouth who's a decent player, they got two of the top 10 prospects in the Braves system this year, and a guy in Morton, who has some pretty ridiculous Triple-A numbers the last two years.

It's not a deal that will knock anyone out with star power, but I think they got about what McClouth is worth.

Plus they cleared the way for Andrew McCutchen to come up and play everyday.

Ideally, you build towards a future outfield of Tabata-McCutchen-Hernandez/Morgan...that's not bad when it comes to ceiling for those players.

Pedro Alvarez is going to anchor one corner in a couple years, Andy LaRoche the other...they've got the makings of a good offense down the road.

The problem is that they have Duke, and then not much, as far as their current rotation, and future starting prospects go.
You have no clue who the braves actually traded, do you? Morton has been in the majors a couple of times and hes a choker, he would fit in on the mets, the guy cant hit the strike zone in the majors if he shot it down a tube, the other pitcher is a middle reliever at best with the OFer being a guy with average range that cant hit shit, in his experience against big league pitching in spring training he hit an astounding .090. If the braves get a few good years out of him then there is no guessing who got the better deal, all those prospects will be career minor leaguers.

The braves didnt give up much and the pirates traded him way too soon when they could have waited until closer to the all star break and gotten a lot more.

Glad the got rid of glavine, he was done and is just whining now because he lost 3 million by not being on the roster before the end of june. Fuck him. At least now the can bring up hanson, that is the big star of the their prospects and why SD didnt want to trade peavey to us since we didnt want to give up hanson.

[joeyballsack]

You're a terrible armchair GM. I wish there was some way we could clash constructed teams.

You could always join the OOTP baseball league I participate in that is currently looking for new owners !!

http://overthefencebaseball.proboards.com/index.cgi

You cant have the Cubs though Mojo, that's the team I am the GM of.

[SP1!]

Not if the guy hits .250 for another month with average power.

If anything, the Braves made the deal off of the strength of McClouth from last season.

I'm not saying it's a great trade. But I'm saying it's an understandable trade, and a piece of a larger plan that seems to make sense for that franchise.

You have to remember that hes hitting .250 on a terrible team, now hes going to a team where he will be hitting in front of chipper which means he will be getting a lot better pitches to hit.

Pittsburgh made a horrible move way too soon during the year.

[K.C.]

You have no clue who the braves actually traded, do you? Morton has been in the majors a couple of times and hes a choker, he would fit in on the mets, the guy cant hit the strike zone in the majors if he shot it down a tube, the other pitcher is a middle reliever at best with the OFer being a guy with average range that cant hit shit, in his experience against big league pitching in spring training he hit an astounding .090. If the braves get a few good years out of him then there is no guessing who got the better deal, all those prospects will be career minor leaguers.

The braves didnt give up much and the pirates traded him way too soon when they could have waited until closer to the all star break and gotten a lot more.

Glad the got rid of glavine, he was done and is just whining now because he lost 3 million by not being on the roster before the end of june. Fuck him. At least now the can bring up hanson, that is the big star of the their prospects and why SD didnt want to trade peavey to us since we didnt want to give up hanson.

I follow the minors probably as much as I follow the majors. So I'm very familiar with Hernandez and Morton. I only know the scouting report on Locke.

But to say Hernandez sucks because he hit .090 in Spring Training when he's was in A BALL last year is pretty ridiculous.

The guy's hitting .316 in Double-A this year, has a decent OBP, and good speed. He projects as a future lead-off hitter.

And it's equally as ridiculous to base Morton's entire trajectory off of last season, although I will say, he projects the lowest of the three players.

Locke has excellent stuff. He just needs to develop control, but he has a live arm and projects as a starter (not a middle reliever as you suggest).

Now, it makes sense for the Braves because Schafer and Hanson are better prospects than Hernandez and Locke, which why it was a smart move for them.

But let's not go nuts. McClouth is an average OF, and he's moving to much a tougher park on hitters. He's better than what the Braves have right now, but I think it's a bit delusional to think he'll step right into Atlanta and replicate his numbers from last season.

[TheMojoPin]

But let's not go nuts. McClouth is an average OF, and he's moving to much a tougher park on hitters. He's better than what the Braves have right now, but I think it's a bit delusional to think he'll step right into Atlanta and replicate his numbers from last season.

You're making my points for me.

If they waited there would have been more teams interested who would have realized he might be stronger in their park and had been willing to give up more. The guy has value right now, period. That value was wasted trading him this early for shaky prospects who have a ton to prove. Odds are they could have gotten at least one prospect closer to being a sure thing if they waited to the deadline when teams get desperate than three unimpressive maybe's. You're almost the only person I've seen analyzing this on any level who thinks these guys are anywhere near the best the Pirates could hope to get for McClouth after last year.

[TheMojoPin]

You could always join the OOTP baseball league I participate in that is currently looking for new owners !!

http://overthefencebaseball.proboards.com/index.cgi

You cant have the Cubs though Mojo, that's the team I am the GM of.

Damn you!

How are they doing?

[SP1!]

I follow the minors probably as much as I follow the majors. So I'm very familiar with Hernandez and Morton. I only know the scouting report on Locke.

But to say Hernandez sucks because he hit .090 in Spring Training when he's was in A BALL last year is pretty ridiculous.

The guy's hitting .316 in Double-A this year, has a decent OBP, and good speed. He projects as a future lead-off hitter.

And it's equally as ridiculous to base Morton's entire trajectory off of last season, although I will say, he projects the lowest of the three players.

Locke has excellent stuff. He just needs to develop control, but he has a live arm and projects as a starter (not a middle reliever as you suggest).

Now, it makes sense for the Braves because Schafer and Hanson are better prospects than Hernandez and Locke, which why it was a smart move for them.

But let's not go nuts. McClouth is an average OF, and he's moving to much a tougher park on hitters. He's better than what the Braves have right now, but I think it's a bit delusional to think he'll step right into Atlanta and replicate his numbers from last season.
Remember, francour killed in A ball and now they are screaming for his head and morton is fucking horrible, there is no way around it. If he cant make the team with our shitty slate of middle relief then you know he has to suck.

The fact remains that mcclouth is 3 steps above anyone in the deal.

[joeyballsack]

Damn you!

How are they doing?

Usually out in the first round of the playoffs, much like the real version of the team.

[TheMojoPin]

Usually out in the first round of the playoffs, much like the real version of the team.

Curses.

[epo]

God damn is Garrett Anderson terrible in the field. He should've stayed in the AL.

[cougarjake13]

God damn is Garrett Anderson terrible in the field. He should've stayed in the AL.

i was curious why he'd come to the nl

[epo]

I'll be interested to see how good this Tommy Hanson kid looks today.

[hammersavage]

I'll be interested to see how good this Tommy Hanson kid looks today.

Oh yea, almost forgot about this.

Well, got thru the 1st on 9 pitches.

[epo]

Oh yea, almost forgot about this.

Well, got thru the 1st on 9 pitches.

My only critique was that he seemed to really miss the points where the catcher setup. I'm guessing that its nerves.

[epo]

96 fastball, 86 slider, 76 curveball. Nice arsenal.

[hammersavage]

Struck out the side on 12 pitches.

[epo]

Struck out the side on 12 pitches.

Are you watching the game?

[hammersavage]

Are you watching the game?

Just following the gamecast for the first couple innings. I guess they don't show the Braves on TBS anymore, Sox are on.

[epo]

Just following the gamecast for the first couple innings. I guess they don't show the Braves on TBS anymore, Sox are on.

He's perfect thru 3, but I wonder how long it will take critics to point out his throwing motion. He doesn't drive with his legs and is all arm when he throws.

[hammersavage]

10 more pitches. Start a 'TOMMY HANSON HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING' thread, epo

[weekapaugjz]

10 more pitches. Start a 'TOMMY HANSON HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING' thread, epo

but he didn't say, "perfect game" he said, "gem".

[hammersavage]

but he didn't say, "perfect game" he said, "gem".

that's an important correction. thank you

[epo]

10 more pitches. Start a 'TOMMY HANSON HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING' thread, epo

I'd rather start a "Tommy Hanson is an arm injury waiting to happen" thread. At least I'll eventually be right about that one.

[hammersavage]

Well now he has to use the stretch

[epo]

Note to Tommy Hanson: don't throw a 94 mph fastball with no movement to a hitter like Ryan Braun.

[IMSlacker]

Ha. As soon as I switch over, he up the two run homer. This guy sucks!

[epo]

Two things: he doesn't pay attention to runners, as Jason Kendall stole a base on him. Also, he needs to remember that pitchers can hit...as Manny Parra just drove one to the wall for an RBI double off him.

[epo]

Note to Tommy Hanson: don't throw a 94 mph fastball with no movement to a hitter like Ryan Braun.

Don't do it a second time either, dummy.

[hammersavage]

Don't do it a second time either, dummy.

Maybe he should just face each lineup one time thru.

[epo]

Maybe he should just face each lineup one time thru.

After the first time through, he one struck out one hitter and gave up 7 runs.

[hammersavage]

After the first time through, he one struck out one hitter and gave up 7 runs.

So less effective?

[Suspect Chin]

Looks like he's done.

[hammersavage]

Glavine might file a grievance over being released. It's really retarded that you can't release someone to save money. Owners should be able to do it if they want.

[hammersavage]

And Halladay had a complete game shutout on 97 pitches. He is the best pitcher in baseball.

[cougarjake13]

Glavine might file a grievance over being released. It's really retarded that you can't release someone to save money. Owners should be able to do it if they want.

they have to have that


otherwise yoy could sign a guy to a massive contract and then just dump him for whatever reason and no longer pay him



like the nfl

[epo]

Glavine might file a grievance over being released. It's really retarded that you can't release someone to save money. Owners should be able to do it if they want.

they have to have that

otherwise yoy could sign a guy to a massive contract and then just dump him for whatever reason and no longer pay him

like the nfl

Exactly. And Glavine's long time involvement with the players union would indicate that he & his agent are on to something with this one. If anybody knows the rules, its Tom Glavine.

I bet Tom gets paid on this one.

[disneyspy]

floyd is tryin to pitch a shutout vs the tigs

[disneyspy]

it worked,a homer by the tigs,game is on WGN

[disneyspy]

so glad sheff wasnt in the lineup to kill this 9th inning rally

[cougarjake13]

so glad sheff wasnt in the lineup to kill this 9th inning rally

yeh cause hes been garbage so far this year

[disneyspy]

i dont think the mets fans understand that sheff plays ok til you need a hit from him,then hes garbage. i'm watchin the epo's get the crap kicked out of them but its hilarious that their pitcher adjusts himself all the time on the mound,smith needs a bigger cup

[PD]

i dont think the mets fans understand that sheff plays ok til you need a hit from him,then hes garbage. i'm watchin the epo's get the crap kicked out of them but its hilarious that their pitcher adjusts himself all the time on the mound,smith needs a bigger cup
luv ya DS, but what you don't get is if he doesn't play another game, he is a 400K bargain for this team.

Sheff is funny guy; when he's motivated he is good in clubhouse, but he can turn on a dime and be trouble.

at 400k though its no brainer.:thumbup:

[Pestz4Evah]

WHY is Joe Torre batting Matt Kemp 9th?

[Gvac]

What a terrible time for my Reds to run into the juggernaut that is the Kansas City Royals. :surrender:

[Marc with a c]

WHY is Joe Torre batting Matt Kemp 9th?

ask kenny lofton.

[cougarjake13]

luv ya DS, but what you don't get is if he doesn't play another game, he is a 400K bargain for this team.

Sheff is funny guy; when he's motivated he is good in clubhouse, but he can turn on a dime and be trouble.

at 400k though its no brainer.:thumbup:



x2


anything sheff does comes with the caveat that the mets are only paying him 400 k


the tigers are paying close to 14 mil to watch him hit for the mets



the risk reward is like 1 billion percent for the mets

[Pestz4Evah]

ask kenny lofton.

You mean that Torre is racist?

Seriously, that is the only explanation for batting Mark Loretta 7th and Matt Kemp 9th.

[Marc with a c]

exactly.

[razorboy]

I 'm all for Harper's right to do this, but I fear it won't end well for him. Welcome to D.C. young man. (http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4258285&name=mlb_draft&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fesp n%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d4258285%26name%3dmlb_ draft)

[PD]

I 'm all for Harper's right to do this, but I fear it won't end well for him. Welcome to D.C. young man. (http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4258285&name=mlb_draft&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fesp n%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d4258285%26name%3dmlb_ draft)

well, if you mean that he will prolly wind up with the Nats, yeah, but the big thing I got out of that is the signing up to go to college, so he will have options.

[El Mudo]

well, if you mean that he will prolly wind up with the Nats, yeah, but the big thing I got out of that is the signing up to go to college, so he will have options.


They can always do what they did with Jack McGeary, and let him go to school while he's under contract. He won't be able to play on the NCAA level, but he can still play in the minors.

[Fallon]

I want to do this.

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[cougarjake13]

un fucking real

[Pestz4Evah]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0115702d6337970c-800wi

Weaver vs. Weaver this Saturday.

[TheMojoPin]

Great editorial in the NYT arguing down the hypocritical nature of the steroid hysterics. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/opinion/20chafets.html?_r=2)

Since the dawn of baseball, players have used whatever substances they believed would help them perform better, heal faster or relax during a long and stressful season. As far back as 1889, the pitcher Pud Galvin ingested monkey testosterone. During Prohibition, Grover Cleveland Alexander, also a pitcher, calmed his nerves with federally banned alcohol, and no less an expert than Bill Veeck, who owned several major-league teams, said that Alexander was a better pitcher drunk than sober.

In 1961, during his home run race with Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle developed a sudden abscess that kept him on the bench. It came from an infected needle used by Max Jacobson, a quack who injected Mantle with a home-brew containing steroids and speed. In his autobiography, Hank Aaron admitted once taking an amphetamine tablet during a game. The Pirates’ John Milner testified at a drug dealer’s trial that his teammate, Willie Mays, kept “red juice,” a liquid form of speed, in his locker. (Mays denied it.) After he retired, Sandy Koufax admitted the he was often “half high” on the mound from the drugs he took for his ailing left arm.

Purists say that steroids alter the game. But since the Hall opened its doors, baseball has never stopped changing. Batters now wear body padding and helmets. The pitcher’s mound has risen and fallen. Bats have more pop. Night games affect visibility. Players stay in shape in the off-season. Expansion has altered the game’s geography. And its demography has changed beyond recognition. Babe Ruth never faced a black pitcher. As Chris Rock put it, Ruth’s record consisted of “714 affirmative-action home runs.” This doesn’t diminish Ruth’s accomplishment, but it puts it into context.

[disneyspy]

the disneyspies are kickin the crap outta the epos on fox

[cougarjake13]

hey DS hows keeping magglio ordonez over sheffield working out for ya this year ??

[disneyspy]

tigs are in first and not last,pretty good

[Pestz4Evah]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0115702d6337970c-800wi

Weaver vs. Weaver this Saturday.

This is pretty great.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ki5EPOdCHyM/Sj2YNKUsaBI/AAAAAAAADVk/_b5rFKeL0Vw/s400/79795938-e3ec-4bdc-b542-7f1750cc4015.jpg

[epo]

the disneyspies are kickin the crap outta the epos on fox

I swear the Brewers can't win on national TV this year.

[disneyspy]

I swear the Brewers can't win on national TV this year.

i hope that game we midwesteners are goin to next month isnt on nat'l tv,i dislike,no hate,all sports teams from chicago

[Pestz4Evah]

WHY is Joe Torre batting Matt Kemp 9th?


ABSOLUTE FUCKING MORON. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-fyi22-2009jun22,0,7517149.story?track=rss)

But Kemp has batted No. 7 or lower in 44 of his 67 starts. He hit ninth Saturday and eighth Sunday.

"I've never really considered myself a nine-hole hitter, but it helps the team out, it gets more speed at the top of the lineup," he said. "You've just got to wait around a little longer to get your at-bat. . . . I thought it would be bad, but it's really not that bad."

Asked if Kemp was hitting lower in the order than some people might think his numbers warrant, Torre said, "That's why the people who look at the numbers don't make the lineup."

[razorboy]

I can't say I'll miss Donald Fehr.

[razorboy]

Aki could be back this season (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=mlb/news/newstest.aspx?id=4238772)

With the way Zobrist has been manning second, it's a good problem for the Rays to have.

[SP1!]

Great editorial in the NYT arguing down the hypocritical nature of the steroid hysterics. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/opinion/20chafets.html?_r=2)

Thats not a good argument, thats a cop out for people to allow these past few cheaters in the HOF and to make sure b*nds gets in and doesnt have to wait until the veterans committee to vote on him.

And imagine that, a guy that has a book to push got to write an article speaking about this, not exactly unbiased there, I wonder how much his publisher paid the times to print this piece in op-ed?

[TheMojoPin]

Thats not a good argument, thats a cop out for people to allow these past few cheaters in the HOF and to make sure b*nds gets in and doesnt have to wait until the veterans committee to vote on him.

How is not a good argument?

None of the rants about retroactively punishing guys for steroids holds up. In flies in the face with how baseball and the fans and the voters have dealt with cheating and scandal in the past. There's no clear line at all as to what kinds of cheating and "how much" cheating is OK, as the editorial points out. The arguments to set apart the "steroid era" are horeshit so long as there aren't seperate wings for the "whites only era," "the juiced ball era," "the dead ball era," "the throwing games era," "the speed era," "the various pitching mound heights era" and so on and so on. It's not like steroids were a sudden change in a game that had been a constant for the previous 130 years.

[Pestz4Evah]

...and the Juan Pierre ball-licking can stop:

Games 1-20: .425/.495/.598 1.093 OPS
Games 21-41: .244/.284/.289 .573 OPS (http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2009/06/22/must-be-something-in-the-water-today.html)

[Snoogans]

...and the Juan Pierre ball-licking can stop:

Games 1-20: .425/.495/.598 1.093 OPS
Games 21-41: .244/.284/.289 .573 OPS (http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2009/06/22/must-be-something-in-the-water-today.html)

WHOA WAIT STOP. YOU ARE ABOUT TO MAKE MOJO DO STATISTICS. HIS BRAIN CANNOT HANDLE THIS

[TheMojoPin]

...and the Juan Pierre ball-licking can stop:

Games 1-20: .425/.495/.598 1.093 OPS
Games 21-41: .244/.284/.289 .573 OPS (http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2009/06/22/must-be-something-in-the-water-today.html)

I rest my case on that dude that wanted to trade for Juan Pierre's face.

[underdog]

This is the best site ever (http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/index.html)

http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-orientation.png

[Dan 'Hampton]

Uniwatchblog.com had it last week. Deadspin yesterday. Very cool site. He should sell them poster form or something.

[TheMojoPin]

Good Lord, Pujols' season through today is SICK:

.332 .453 .743 1.197

30HR

77RBI

Incredible.

[hammersavage]

Good Lord, Pujols' season through today is SICK:

.332 .453 .743 1.197

30HR

77RBI

Incredible.

I think he wins the triple crown

[TheGameHHH]

Good Lord, Pujols' season through today is SICK:

.332 .453 .743 1.197

30HR

77RBI

Incredible.

I'm excited to see a 60 HR season by a guy not named McGuire, Sosa or Bonds.

[Snoogans]

Pujols is cheating. he is a fuckin robot

[hammersavage]

He is not a robot. He is just Albert

[Suspect Chin]

Pujols is cheating. he is a fuckin robot

There was a crazy drunk black guy running around the last Cards game I went to proclaiming that he personally had shot up Pujols.

[Snoogans]

There was a crazy drunk black guy running around the last Cards game I went to proclaiming that he personally had shot up Pujols.

Nice. Everytime i see one of those crazy guys, I imagine that one time, one of them had to be tellin the truth. But no one cares cause he is crazy

[Suspect Chin]

Nice. Everytime i see one of those crazy guys, I imagine that one time, one of them had to be tellin the truth. But no one cares cause he is crazy

Hopefully he'll save the syringes until 10 years down the road when Pujols gets indicted.

[Snoogans]

Hopefully he'll save the syringes until 10 years down the road when Pujols gets indicted.

if he knew you were gonna be talkin this nonsense, he would have eliminated you

[Suspect Chin]

if he knew you were gonna be talkin this nonsense, he would have eliminated you

He didn't have the balls to eliminate the ESPN announcer, he would never suspect me.

[underdog]

Good Lord, Pujols' season through today is SICK:

.332 .453 .743 1.197

30HR

77RBI

Incredible.

Only getting on base 45% of the time and an OPS under 1.300? Fucking rookie.

[Marc with a c]

i know ya'll fags don't care abot K's. assface has 32k's and 30 homers.

[TonyStark]

I'm starting to suspect more and more that Pujols isn't human honestly, this guy is just a freak.

Been rewatching that win by the Orioles over and over again, great stuff last night against the BoSox.

[Snoogans]

I'm starting to suspect more and more that Pujols isn't human honestly, this guy is just a freak.

Been rewatching that win by the Orioles over and over again, great stuff last night against the BoSox.

Fuck that. O's got lucky the rain came. Smoltz was pitchin well. Fuck the rain.


At least thats how it looks in the stats. CABLEVISION WONT GET FUCKIN NESN so I dont get to watch unless the game is on ESPN.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm excited to see a 60 HR season by a guy not named McGuire, Sosa or Bonds.

Right now Pujols is on pace for 62 HR and 159 RBI.

For comparison's sake:

Sosa 2001 through June 30th:
.306 .422 .665 1.087
26HR
75RBI

Sosa 1998 through June 30th:
.327 .386 .676 1.062
33HR
79RBI

Bonds 2001 through June 30th:
.305 .483 .863 1.345
39HR
71RBI

[underdog]

Bonds 2001 through June 30th:
.305 .483 .863 1.345
39HR
71RBI

:blink:

[TheMojoPin]

:blink:

PUT HIM IN THE HALL.

[PhishHead]

PUT HIM IN THE HALL.

I say put everyone in the hall it is already corrupted.

[TheMojoPin]

I say put everyone in the hall it is already corrupted.

Fuck "corrupted." It's baseball. If you don't get caught for something before they crackdown, you're in. Simple. That's how it's always been and there's no reason it should be any different with steroids. It's not like we're talking about an idiot like Pete Rose here.

[PhishHead]

Fuck "corrupted." It's baseball. If you don't get caught for something before they crackdown, you're in. Simple. That's how it's always been and there's no reason it should be any different with steroids. It's not like we're talking about an idiot like Pete Rose here.

I say put Pete in as well. Its not even about getting caught doing something, its about they have players in the hall that shouldn't be in something deserved for the absolutely best players ever. I mean crap if you don't get in on your first ballot I am sorry you were never good enough to get in, in the first place. Just because one year you get lucky and there are crappy players nominated with you that you get in, that is BS and then they have people on ballots that should have gotten in sooner and never did. I say one year thats all the time you get. If you are that good and amazing you will be voted in that first year.

[TheMojoPin]

I mean crap if you don't get in on your first ballot I am sorry you were never good enough to get in, in the first place.

"You hateful bastard!"

http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/virtual/64topps_giant/64topps_giant-58.jpg

[PhishHead]

"You hateful bastard!"

http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/virtual/64topps_giant/64topps_giant-58.jpg

my work is blocking the image dammit and I want to respond appropriately.

Who is it?

[TheMojoPin]

my work is blocking the image dammit and I want to respond appropriately.

Who is it?

Ron Santo, THE SEVENTH GREATEST 3RD BASEMAN OF ALL TIME. (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/santoro01.php)

[Marc with a c]

poop.

[PhishHead]

Ron Santo, THE SEVENTH GREATEST 3RD BASEMAN OF ALL TIME. (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/santoro01.php)

HAHAHAHAHA

okay that was my argument just a laugh.

Pie should be above him on that list.

[TheMojoPin]

Each laugh is like a dagger in my fragile heart.

And Santo's fake legs.

[PhishHead]

Each laugh is like a dagger in my fragile heart.

And Santo's fake legs.

I still love you just not Santo and his average numbers.

[TheMojoPin]

I still love you just not Santo and his average numbers.

DON'T BE OBTUSE.