Obama - Best President Ever?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Get this... It was his first day as 1st Sgt!

Geez, I wouldnt want him as the top enlisted man in the company which has about 200-250 men in it. 1stSgts usually have at least 15 years of service under their belt, if he hasn't already been demoted he will be passed over for Sgt Maj.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another sign that we are not out of this hole yet. FNMA needs another 8.5 billion dollars.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7554125.html

[Furtherman]

President Obama says peace between Israelis and Palestinians will involve "two states for two peoples."
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states," Obama said.

Probably will never happen due to bullshit cultural egos, but at least a President is finally taking a stand.

[booster11373]

Probably will never happen due to bullshit cultural egos, but at least a President is finally taking a stand.

How long until he is declared anti-semitic?

[Furtherman]

Right after he said it.

[jonyrotn]

Probably will never happen due to bullshit cultural egos, but at least a President is finally taking a stand.
It's just a deversionary tactic while they ramp up efforts to occupy Pakistan..
People don't want to read about us picking a fight with a nuclear power..
Anyone who doubts WW III is on the horizon lacks common sense and basic analytical dexterity....How this information is not the lead story of every news organization just goes to show who controls the flow of information...
Isreal knows where US support lies, so these are just words meant to stir up a dust cloud to provide cover
for some other unpopular action..How many times are we gonna fall for the same schoolyard moves before we get insulted? They don't even switch up the scam anymore, they have two plays in their playbook, the "Hail Mary" (911, Bin Laden murder) and the "Play Action Pass with a pump fake" like today's bullshit.. the problem is, we fall for it every single fucking time..
I've seen the evil men do up close and personal and I recognize the sociopathology in the behavior demonstrated by these liars..
Honestly speaking though, what makes smart people so stupid when to comes to the Government?
Why do we allow ourselves to be continually dupped? It only serves to make us look pathetic in the eyes of the rest of the world because they can see from thousands of miles away what we can't see in our own backyard..
I just have to much self respect for this shit..If a female played me just a slight percentage as dirty as my government has, I so woulda posted the filthiest pics her conscience would allow me to take on every website I could access, and I still woulda felt like I got the shitty end of the stick..

[Dude!]

It's just a deversionary tactic while they ramp up efforts to occupy Pakistan..
People don't want to read about us picking a fight with a nuclear power..
Anyone who doubts WW III is on the horizon lacks common sense and basic analytical dexterity....How this information is not the lead story of every news organization just goes to show who controls the flow of information...
Isreal knows where US support lies, so these are just words meant to stir up a dust cloud to provide cover
for some other unpopular action..How many times are we gonna fall for the same schoolyard moves before we get insulted? They don't even switch up the scam anymore, they have two plays in their playbook, the "Hail Mary" (911, Bin Laden murder) and the "Play Action Pass with a pump fake" like today's bullshit.. the problem is, we fall for it every single fucking time..
I've seen the evil men do up close and personal and I recognize the sociopathology in the behavior demonstrated by these liars..
Honestly speaking though, what makes smart people so stupid when to comes to the Government?
Why do we allow ourselves to be continually dupped? It only serves to make us look pathetic in the eyes of the rest of the world because they can see from thousands of miles away what we can't see in our own backyard..
I just have to much self respect for this shit..If a female played me just a slight percentage as dirty as my government has, I so woulda posted the filthiest pics her conscience would allow me to take on every website I could access, and I still woulda felt like I got the shitty end of the stick..

i wish i understood what you
are saying here

[jonyrotn]

i wish i understood what you
are saying here
Other than the American people focusing on and the American press reporting on, nothing will ever come of Obama's statement on Palestine's borders because we have NEVER done anything that Isreal didn't want us to do...So I ask myself, Why release this statement if it will never amount to shit? I futher ask myself what else is going on that the powers that be would rather we not report about and speak about..
If a regular person wants to avoid a topic or change the subject of a conversation he must introduce a new subject to destract you from the one he's trying to avoid, and the more controversial the easier it is to change focus.. Propaganda works the same way..Even if it's a random topic that basically comes out of nowhere like Obama's statement did, it will still serve to distract attention just long enough..The government releases Zero information unless it serves a purpose, what purpose does this information serve as presented, when the whole world knows the US would never support the realignment of Palestine's borders?
The timing of such a clearly untrue political statement has to be what you look at..Why now? What purpose does this serve? It's a mistake to take anything they tell the populous for face value, history has proved that over and over..

[Furtherman]

Well, that's like, just your opinion, man.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Isnt Obama contradicting himself? He wants Pre 1967 borders, that means Syria gets the Golan heights. Yesterday he called for sanctions against Assad


Giving into the Palistineans. This worked out really well


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9331863/

[jonyrotn]

Well, that's like, just your opinion, man.
Right..it's also my opinion that oj simpson killed his wife but many people don't think he did but I'm basing my opinion on the facts not my heart or what i've been conditioned to believe..

[RoseBlood]

If a female played me just a slight percentage as dirty as my government has, I so woulda posted the filthiest pics her conscience would allow me to take on every website I could access, and I still woulda felt like I got the shitty end of the stick..

You really need to write for Hallmark.

[Furtherman]

Right..it's also my opinion that oj simpson killed his wife but many people don't think he did but I'm basing my opinion on the facts not my heart or what i've been conditioned to believe..

Well, I do agree that our country will continue to do shady and dirty business in the Middle East as long as we're dependent on their natural resources. I don't know if occupying Pakistan comes into that play and I certainly hope not.

[jonyrotn]

You really need to write for Hallmark.
Hahaha....
I love you Roseblood..You get me..;-)

[jonyrotn]

Well, I do agree that our country will continue to do shady and dirty business in the Middle East as long as we're dependent on their natural resources. I don't know if occupying Pakistan comes into that play and I certainly hope not.
Well I suppose anything could happen but when I look at everything going on right now, even the events that don't seem to be related to the middle east but are all kicking off at the same time and allow myself to make a decision on that alone, it seems pretty imminent...But I guess we can hope sounder minds prevail..

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Our blessed constitutional scholar gets to tell congress to go shove it


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/death-of-the-war-powers-act/2011/05/17/AF3Jh35G_story.html


Patriot act extension deal made. Move over nothing to see here. Obama is in the oval office. Constitutional scholar at 1600 Penn Ave

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55341.html

[hanso]

Otto Junkerman 2012

[Dudeman]

Obama wants to pull out of Afgan faster than the military and some others would prefer.

The praise from WF is deafening.

[Dude!]

Obama wants to pull out of Afgan faster than the military and some others would prefer.

yet leaving more troops there
than when he assumed office

The criticism from Dudeman is deafening

[WRESTLINGFAN]

DEFUND OBAMAS ILLEGAL WAR!!!!!


Lets hope the House does it

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_libya

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What a faaaaaaaaaabulous night for POTUS.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2011/06/24/2011-06-24_bams_4m_cash__dine_nite_on_town.html

[epo]

Otto Junkerman 2012

I hate you.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bachmann mixes up Lexington and Concord and shes rung thru the rafters as rightfully so. Obama makes a gaffe about the MOH and not a word.


http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/06/mainstream-media-covers-horrifying-obama-mistake

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Highest IQ for a president ever?


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

"Historian Michael Beschloss claimed on Don Imus’ radio show that President Obama’s IQ is off the charts and that he is the smartest president we have ever had.

Hmmm.

Imus followed up with the logical question: “Well, what is his IQ?”

The answer: “Uh. I would say it’s probably – he’s probably the smartest guy ever to become President.”

Pretty convincing stuff, huh?

Just say it and it’s true.

For the record I don’t care what Obama’s IQ is.

But, if he’s going to dispatch his shills to hype it, he should feel comfortable showing some evidence.

Tell me again, why did Bush have to show his transcripts and why does Obama get a pass?"

[Syd]

Why would Obama send out a sycophant to talk about his IQ? Ignorance and stupidity are chic nowadays with politicians.

[A.J.]

"Historian Michael Beschloss claimed on Don Imus’ radio show that President Obama’s IQ is off the charts and that he is the smartest president we have ever had.

Yeah, because that Thomas Jefferson was a real dullard.

[Judge Smails]

Little known fact: Franklin Pierce had the lowest hanging scrotum of all presidents.

[foodcourtdruide]

For the record I don’t care what Obama’s IQ is.

But, if he’s going to dispatch his shills to hype it, he should feel comfortable showing some evidence.



So Obama sent this person on Imus to talk about his high IQ? If not, why are you posting this?

[booster11373]

So Obama sent this person on Imus to talk about his high IQ? If not, why are you posting this?

It think WF has some kind of OCD. Someone should post something positive about a democrat or the President in a non-political thread and see how long it takes him to find and respond

[Furtherman]

Raise taxes on wealthiest, Obama challenges GOP (http://beta.news.yahoo.com/raise-taxes-wealthiest-obama-challenges-gop-155729085.html)

In a blunt challenge to Republicans in Congress, President Barack Obama insisted Wednesday that limiting selected tax breaks for oil companies and the super-wealthy must be part of any deficit reduction plan.

"That's not radical," he said at a White House news conference. He was quick to add that a bipartisan agreement is possible to cut deficits, raise the government's debt limit and avert a threatened financial crisis.

Republicans in Congress have been insistent in recent days that any deficit reduction be limited to spending cuts, including reductions in benefit programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, and exclude additional revenues.

But Obama said both parties must be prepared to "take on their sacred cows" as part of the deficit-reduction negotiations.

Talks the talk - but will he walk the walk? I have my doubts.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Raise taxes on wealthiest, Obama challenges GOP (http://beta.news.yahoo.com/raise-taxes-wealthiest-obama-challenges-gop-155729085.html)



Talks the talk - but will he walk the walk? I have my doubts.

Nope

He caved in on not having public option, keeping bush tax cuts etc. Its all theatre

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So Obama sent this person on Imus to talk about his high IQ? If not, why are you posting this?

No, but why would he say that Obama has the highest IQ but not the actual number? He just made that up

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, because that Thomas Jefferson was a real dullard.

Some deceased black women would disagree with that comment

[foodcourtdruide]

No, but why would he say that Obama has the highest IQ but not the actual number? He just made that up

So, to show your disgust for him just making something up... you made up that Obama told him to go on Imus and say that? Fascinating.

[spoon]

Raise taxes on wealthiest, Obama challenges GOP (http://beta.news.yahoo.com/raise-taxes-wealthiest-obama-challenges-gop-155729085.html)



Talks the talk - but will he walk the walk? I have my doubts.

As do I but like the direction we're targeting for once. Fingers crossed on this one. Great comments by O as well.

[hanso]

Yeah, because that Thomas Jefferson was a real dullard.

Must be why the Texas Board of Education cut Thomas Jefferson out of its textbooks.

[hanso]

Nope

He caved in on not having public option, keeping bush tax cuts etc. Its all theatre

But you have been posting it is all on Obama.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

But you have been posting it is all on Obama.

He's the Chief Executive who had majorities in both houses for almost 2 yrs

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How can he not know his daughters age?


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-messes-daughters-age-221106356.html

[spoon]

How can he not know his daughters age?


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-messes-daughters-age-221106356.html

he's a guy :dry:



NOT the same as Bachmann's John Wayne f up.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, because that Thomas Jefferson was a real dullard.




i was a alexander hamilton fan

[hanso]

He's the Chief Executive who had majorities in both houses for almost 2 yrs

Is it partisanship or policies? You keep having it both ways.

[A.J.]

i was a alexander hamilton fan

He was queer as a 10 dollar bill.

[spoon]

I get jokes!

[foodcourtdruide]

How can he not know his daughters age?


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-messes-daughters-age-221106356.html

Are you a board character?

[Furtherman]

How can he not know his daughters age?


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-messes-daughters-age-221106356.html

OMG. No parent has ever done that. Impeach!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Its the double fucking standard. When Bachmann makes a gaffe about John Wayne everybodys all over it Im fine with that. Obama makes an idiot of himself its just a cute gaffe. Kind of like how he thought Austrian was a language or his Cinco de quattro fuckup. And how about this one


http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110623/pl_dailycaller/obamaflubsonmedalofhonorrecipient_1


Its been almost 100 days and he still hasnt fully explained or been held accountable for his illegal Libyan kinetic exercise

[Furtherman]

I bet if they check, he's even mixed up their names. Arrest him!!

[Crispy123]

he's a guy :dry:



NOT the same as Bachmann's John Wayne f up.

He DID accidently call his daughter Aileen Wuornos once.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From Mark Halperin

http://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-suspends-mark-halperin-name-calling-remark-144752706.html

[Dude!]

Its the double fucking standard.

liberals have low expectations
of black people and give them
a 'free ride' on such things

[Crispy123]

Finally our President has kicked those lazy Republican assholes into gear. Way to go big man!!!

Harry Reid cancels Senate July 4 recess after Obama chides Congress
(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20075723-503544.html)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Will Obama cxl his golf, basketball and other activities too?

Of course not. He will be kissing Kennedy ass at Maaaaaahhhhthas Vinyahhhhhd

2 Can play at this game. The Tan man should have a vote to defund Obamas illegal war

[Dude!]

Will Obama cxl his golf, basketball and other activities too?

he's canceled one golf outing
to have a 4-hour session with
a private tutor who will teach him
his daughters' names and ages

[Crispy123]

Despite the ignorant rascists complaints to the contrary, The best US President of this century has explained US involvement in the NATO operations in Libya and has wipped both houses of Congress into falling in line with his vision of Mid-East policy.


Obama defends Libyan operation
(http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Obama+defends+Libyan+operation/5027765/story.html)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is Libya a threat to our national security? He based is actions on the UN and not the constitution. He is supposed to be a constitutional scholar. He is violating the war powers act. Any song and dance he gives defending his actions does not validate his reasons for attacking Libya.

[Crispy123]

Im really impressed with our Presidents ability to lead despite all the "conservatives" (read:rascists) baseless attacks.

I understand all the hate from the Glenn O'Limbaugh clones but I refuse to acknowledge these wackadoos.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama is a leader. Leading the economy further into the shitter. You would be cool as a cucumber if you didn't give a fuck that under your watch things have gotten worse.


I guess Kucinich is a racist because he called out POTUS in regards to Libya

[Crispy123]

O Glenn, I love when you don't have a leg to stand on and you just blather about nonsense and write on chalkboards. But you should be saving this for your NEW gig.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I guess there still are kool aid drinkers

[Crispy123]

C'mon Glenn, please tell me again how the Socialist African Muslim is going to topple the country with evil, brown skinned, illegal aliens! pleaz O pleaz!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama is a corporatist. Just ask Jeff Immelt, and Lloyd Blankfein

According to Dr Cornel West he's the "Black Mascot of WALL ST"


As far as illegal aliens. Here ya go


El Jefe se dice Bienvenidos senor y senoras


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/napolitano-defends-ice-immigration-memo-162814031.html

[Crispy123]

YUMMY! FOX flavored Kool-aid! Thats my favorite, Glenn!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

RACISTS!!!!!!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Bumper-sticker-car.jpg




http://images7.cpcache.com/product/455339317v3_480x480_Front.jpg

[Crispy123]

http://www.bolgernow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/fox-news-change-the-channel.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/3274331527_59cf1e64e2_z.jpg

http://rlv.zcache.com/obamacare_shovel_ready_bumper_sticker-p128244182947693714trl0_400.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama is comparing an almost 4 trillion dollar budget to some homework done by his daughters Brilliant. We have some critical thinker as our President

[CountryBob]

Obama is comparing an almost 4 trillion dollar budget to some homework done by his daughters Brilliant. We have some critical thinker as our President

Haha - I normally dont take part in political talk but this did crack me up.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama wants Congress to cxl their 4th of July holiday because he thinks it will be on Cinco de Quattro this year

[foodcourtdruide]

Obama wants Congress to cxl their 4th of July holiday because he thinks it will be on Cinco de Quattro this year

Seriously, are you just too cool to spell out "cancel"?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Seriously, are you just too cool to spell out "cancel"?

Why is this important to point out? Its an abbreviation

[foodcourtdruide]

Why is this important to point out? Its an abbreviation

Yeah, incessantly posting about meaningless things is a waste of time.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, incessantly posting about meaningless things is a waste of time.

The budget is meaningless? Is Libya meaningless?

[foodcourtdruide]

The budget is meaningless?

Please read your last 15 posts in this thread. How many of them were about the budget? You are ultra-hung up on Obama gaffes and you want the media to talk address them as if he murdered someone.

[foodcourtdruide]

The budget is meaningless? Is Libya meaningless?

I'm sorry WF, I'll take your posts a lot more seriously.

What does this mean to me?

Obama wants Congress to cxl their 4th of July holiday because he thinks it will be on Cinco de Quattro this year

Hey I just read on politico that Obama's shoes were untied! Quick, find a link and relate it to Michelle Bachmann!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Please read your last 15 posts in this thread. How many of them were about the budget? You are ultra-hung up on Obama gaffes and you want the media to talk address them as if he murdered someone.



I have also included the budget and his Illegal Libyan war

So next time Palin or Bachmann makes a dopey comment dont post anything then.


No more Daily show or Colbet clips. Deal?

[Zorro]

Obama wants Congress to cxl their 4th of July holiday because he thinks it will be on Cinco de Quattro this year

ummm...unless I'm missing some Audi joke it's "Cuatro"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ummm...unless I'm missing some Audi joke it's "Cuatro"

Yo Hablo Italiano y Espanol. A lot of words are similar Got the spelling mixed up but you probably know what I was mentioning

[foodcourtdruide]

So next time Palin or Bachmann makes a dopey comment dont post anything then.

Comparing Obama to Bachmann is absolutely absurd. And it's not just that you're critical of Obama, you post non-stop even the most minor criticism of him.

[foodcourtdruide]

I have also included the budget and his Illegal Libyan war

So next time Palin or Bachmann makes a dopey comment dont post anything then.


No more Daily show or Colbet clips. Deal?

A mistake like forgetting your daughters age, or even the Bachmann John Wayne gaffe are just sorta amusing and not indicative of anyones intelligence. Bachmann's ACTUAL beliefs are extreme and slightly psychotic. I think it's fine to disagree with Obama about his ideology or his performance, but even you must admit he's a sane person. Do you feel the same way about Bachmann? Seriously?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A mistake like forgetting your daughters age, or even the Bachmann John Wayne gaffe are just sorta amusing and not indicative of anyones intelligence. Bachmann's ACTUAL beliefs are extreme and slightly psychotic. I think it's fine to disagree with Obama about his ideology or his performance, but even you must admit he's a sane person. Do you feel the same way about Bachmann? Seriously?

Bachmann is not my ideal candidate, yes shes over the edge. However while Obama may not be as nutty, he is sort of out there. Comparing homework to a complex budget ivolving trillions of dollars is wacky and out there. Justifying a third war with no mission or objective on a country that does not pose a threat is bad judgement. Who are we assisting? Demanding congress stays back while he jet sets to Mass shows lack of character and judgement. If he wants congress to stay back how about he does too. Congress is sort of like the Bd of Directors and he is the Chmn/CEO

[Gutter]

I just wanted to say i find it amusing that this is really the only thread that has steady traffic after ron and fez ends.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Comparing Obama to Bachmann is absolutely absurd. And it's not just that you're critical of Obama, you post non-stop even the most minor criticism of him.

Obama making gaffes isnt likely to affect nat'l security

Again the double standard. Remember when Dubya said Internets and the Google you would think he gave away the nook-yoolar codes to the chinese

[foodcourtdruide]

Obama making gaffes isnt likely to affect nat'l security

Again the double standard. Remember when Dubya said Internets and the Google you would think he gave away the nuke codes to the chinese

Oh, I forgot. You're constantly arguing against the liberal stereotype and not the actual people on this board.

There is no double standard. When Bush made gaffes like walking the wrong way after stepping off a podium, people who hated him got a chuckle out of it and people who liked him just ignored it. When Obama forgot his daughters age people who hate him get a chuckle out of it and people who like him ignore it. The same thing that happened then is happening now. There's no double standard, YOU are acting like the imaginary liberal you are arguing with by pointing these things out incessantly and trying to prove a point that doesn't matter at all.

If you have an issue with what's going on with Libya, that's fine, but you quite obsessively post and tie that in with everything else Obama has done and it makes people on this board not take you seriously. The same exact thing happened with the illegal immigration issue, where you may have had some valid points, but they get overshadowed because it's clear that you have an extremely stubborn agenda and are more than willing to cut off your nose to spite your face to see it through.

[spoon]

He DID accidently call his daughter Aileen Wuornos once.

:lol:

[hanso]

From Mark Halperin

http://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-suspends-mark-halperin-name-calling-remark-144752706.html

Yup, just like you have posted umpteen times. MSNBC kisses up to Obama.

[cougarjake13]

Oh, I forgot. You're constantly arguing against the liberal stereotype and not the actual people on this board.

There is no double standard. When Bush made gaffes like walking the wrong way after stepping off a podium, people who hated him got a chuckle out of it and people who liked him just ignored it. When Obama forgot his daughters age people who hate him get a chuckle out of it and people who like him ignore it. The same thing that happened then is happening now. There's no double standard, YOU are acting like the imaginary liberal you are arguing with by pointing these things out incessantly and trying to prove a point that doesn't matter at all.

If you have an issue with what's going on with Libya, that's fine, but you quite obsessively post and tie that in with everything else Obama has done and it makes people on this board not take you seriously. The same exact thing happened with the illegal immigration issue, where you may have had some valid points, but they get overshadowed because it's clear that you have an extremely stubborn agenda and are more than willing to cut off your nose to spite your face to see it through.




fuck all these presidential puppets

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh, I forgot. You're constantly arguing against the liberal stereotype and not the actual people on this board.

There is no double standard. When Bush made gaffes like walking the wrong way after stepping off a podium, people who hated him got a chuckle out of it and people who liked him just ignored it. When Obama forgot his daughters age people who hate him get a chuckle out of it and people who like him ignore it. The same thing that happened then is happening now. There's no double standard, YOU are acting like the imaginary liberal you are arguing with by pointing these things out incessantly and trying to prove a point that doesn't matter at all.

If you have an issue with what's going on with Libya, that's fine, but you quite obsessively post and tie that in with everything else Obama has done and it makes people on this board not take you seriously. The same exact thing happened with the illegal immigration issue, where you may have had some valid points, but they get overshadowed because it's clear that you have an extremely stubborn agenda and are more than willing to cut off your nose to spite your face to see it through.


At the end of the day whatever gaffes Obama Bachmann or anyone else isnt going to lower unemployment or get our military out of the mideast/AfPak any quicker.


What stubborness are you talking about? I have already backed off against mass deportations and welcome a guest worker program, I would support the DREAM act but with very strict limitations. I posted that in the GA Immigration thread. Im willing to comprimise but not throw away all of my views.

As far as Libya, I believe the vast majority of Americans are against our involvement. This goes for even a lot of Obama supporters. I know that we express our views from our comfy homes and are not the ones deployed but another front on top of almost 10 years in Afghanistan has gotten the country war weary, I saw on the news that the Iraq/AfPak campaigns could reach 4 trillion before its all over. And for what?


Libya is costing us almost a billion a month, Afghanistan alone is 2 billion a week. Is it really worth spending more?

You can say that I want to cut and run from Afghanistan but in the end, they do not want to live in a 21st century world and why should we force them to? We are propping up a corrupt Karzai. Things might have been different if Iraq wasn't invaded but then again maybe not. Afghans are deep set in their culture and its up to them if they want to modernize. That part of the world is still very much tribal. Its not degrading them or criticizing them, thats just the way they want to live their lives. Breaking away from many on the right. I think we might have to negotiate with the taliban.

[hanso]

Bachmann is not my ideal candidate, yes shes over the edge. However while Obama may not be as nutty, he is sort of out there. Comparing homework to a complex budget ivolving trillions of dollars is wacky and out there. Justifying a third war with no mission or objective on a country that does not pose a threat is bad judgement. Who are we assisting? Demanding congress stays back while he jet sets to Mass shows lack of character and judgement. If he wants congress to stay back how about he does too. Congress is sort of like the Bd of Directors and he is the Chmn/CEO

The comparison was that his daughters did homework as they got it. Not waiting on it. The waiting affects the economy. Something the right may not care about as they point the finger. While adding asinine demands such as abortion regulations.

[spoon]

The comparison was that his daughters did homework as they got it. Not waiting on it. The waiting affects the economy. Something the right may not care about as they point the finger. While adding asinine demands such as abortion regulations.

I give you credit for your persistence Hanso, but man it's just not going to sink in ... ever.

[hanso]

I give you credit for your persistence Hanso, but man it's just not going to sink in ... ever.

Yes, a chart I have seen posted here at least half a dozen times. Has no affect as I still see the same lie posted that are parroted from the right. And even hear it from candidates running for President. Until they are called out on it. Then change their tune.

[hanso]

Obama making gaffes isnt likely to affect nat'l security

Again the double standard. Remember when Dubya said Internets and the Google you would think he gave away the nook-yoolar codes to the chinese

He didn't need to speak I laughed just as hard. At all those front page photo ops he had early on.

[S0S]

Obama Addresses Debt Downgrade: 'We'll Always Be a Triple-A Country' (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/08/idUS74221581220110808)

‎

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.cagle.com/news/ObamaEconomy11/images/plante8.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/GM110820CLR-ObamasD20110820120854.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Time to call a special prosecutor or at least have Darrell Issa have holder stand fast before congress

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62320.html

[Rhah]

Getting harder and harder to defend this guy...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/02/obama-halts-epa-regulation-smog-standards_n_946557.html

He gives in to the Repugs constantly... not to mention the speech he caved on. He should have told them to FU, show up or I will have speech anyway at the Senate (try to find standing room in the back, you House pigs).

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hes going to have another jobs plan. Let see what hes going to try to take out of his toolbox now. Like all the other proposals he enacted actually improved things.


He is just going to embarass himself in front of Congress and the country. I hope hes done before kickoff

Unemployent still at 9.1% Not one single job created last month. How the fuck anyone can defend him after more than 2.5 years in office?

[hanso]

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[Syd]

Hes going to have another jobs plan. Let see what hes going to try to take out of his toolbox now. Like all the other proposals he enacted actually improved things.


He is just going to embarass himself in front of Congress and the country. I hope hes done before kickoff

Unemployent still at 9.1% Not one single job created last month. How the fuck anyone can defend him after more than 2.5 years in office?

because the economy was propped up by fiscal bullshit since 2000 and 30 years of Reaganomics leads to a crippled middle class and wealth concentrated in a brand new gilded age, that's how

There's literally nothing that can be done at this point and at the 2005 rate of jobs created/month it won't be till nearly 2020 till we reach 5% unemployment again

better lower our taxes

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The recipient class and zero liability voters arent a factor? Like we can continue to have nearly half the population pay no federal income tax . A society can really continue without impoding.


Yes, lets increase the welfare state more

[StanUpshaw]

They are a huge problem, but while you're all up in arms about the black and brown ones, it's the gray ones who are really sucking us dry.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

While SS and Medicare are also huge burdens. A lot of the grays were forced to pay into a system for 40 years and now want their money.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How the Administration wishes it was only a movie.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62572.html#comments

Meanwhile his AG sues states for enforcing the law. Fucking Chicago filth

[Jujubees2]

More Solid Proof That Obamacare Is Working (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05/23/more-solid-proof-that-obamacare-is-working/)

[StanUpshaw]

It's only working if premiums drop.

By allowing 26-year-olds to be covered by their parent's plan, you're just gifting insurance companies with customers who wouldn't choose to purchase on their own. Where's that money coming from? The employers, of course, who will make up those costs elsewhere. Either by raising prices or cutting other benefits.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not a word out of Obama condemning his handlers hate speech. Hoffa wanted to take out the sons of bitches in the tea party. Of course the President wont refute his pimp Jimmy Hoffa Jr.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Way to go Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/30/libya-rebel-leader-al-qaeda_n_941752.html

[PapaBear]

Not a word out of Obama condemning his handlers hate speech. Hoffa wanted to take out the sons of bitches in the tea party. Of course the President wont refute his pimp Jimmy Hoffa Jr.
Since when is name calling "hate speech"?

[Pitdoc]

Since when is name calling "hate speech"?

It's "hate speech" when Fox News edits out Hoffa talking about VOTING those sons of bitches out, before saying "take them out" so they can say the quote is violent.

[PapaBear]

Nice. :thumbdown:

[StanUpshaw]

It's "hate speech" when Fox News edits out Hoffa talking about VOTING those sons of bitches out, before saying "take them out" so they can say the quote is violent.

It's the exact thing the left was bitching about months ago.

It's retarded now and it was retarded then.

[PapaBear]

It's the exact thing the left was bitching about months ago.
No it's not. Whether it was edited or not, there's a huge difference between saying "take them out" and saying "take them out" accompanied by cross hairs. The phrase on it's own can have many meanings. With the graphic, it implies a more violent innuendo.

[StanUpshaw]

No it's not. Whether it was edited or not, there's a huge difference between saying "take them out" and saying "take them out" accompanied by cross hairs. The phrase on it's own can have many meanings. With the graphic, it implies a more violent innuendo.

But it was preceded by a ranting war metaphor:

“We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win that war”

Again: pretending to be outraged by this is fucking retarded, but it's only happening because it's exactly the sort of thing the left was pretending to be outraged over.

Go back and read the Giffords thread (if you can stomach it) and tell me I'm wrong.

[PapaBear]

You're wrong.

[disneyspy]

Face !!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This fucker knew everything

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62972.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Its not really looking good for Obama

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/09/joint-fbi-energy-department-raid-on-solyndra-offices.html

[Dude!]

Its not really looking good for Obama

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/09/joint-fbi-energy-department-raid-on-solyndra-offices.html


Solyndra had another Obama connection in that it was backed by Tulsa billionaire George Kaiser, a key supporter of the president.

how did i know that
before i even read the article?

obama is the most corrupt
president in our nation's history

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and the way the exit from bankruptcy is written he gets his 75 million back before the taxpayers get their 535 million. Chicago politics at its best.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cant wait for him to make an ass of himself in front of Congress and the country.

[hanso]

Got the CNN/Tea Party GOP Pres. debate on. They all keep saying stop ''Obamacare'' ad nauseum. If all the effort so far over putting a stop to this. Where instead directed to jobs. Unemployment might be cut in half by now.

[Dude!]

Got the CNN/Tea Party GOP Pres. debate on. They all keep saying stop ''Obamacare'' ad nauseum. If all the effort so far over putting a stop to this. Where instead directed to jobs. Unemployment might be cut in half by now.

since English is your 2nd language
what is your 1st?

[PapaBear]

since English is your 2nd language
what is your 1st?
He posted via telegram. The periods are where he said "stop".

[hanso]

Got the CNN/Tea Party GOP Pres. debate on. They all keep saying stop ''Obamacare'' ad nauseum. If all the effort so far over putting a stop to this. Where instead directed to jobs. Unemployment might be cut in half by now.

Ok then.

Got the CNN/Tea Party GOP Pres. debate on. They all keep saying stop ''Obamacare'' ad nauseum. If all the effort so far over putting a stop to this were instead directed to jobs. Unemployment might be cut in half by now.

Take off a peroid and correct a word. Is it right now? Any more grammar police want to step up? And blaze over the content of course.

[PapaBear]

Ok then.

Got the CNN/Tea Party GOP Pres. debate on. They all keep saying stop ''Obamacare'' ad nauseum. If all the effort so far over putting a stop to this were instead directed to jobs, unemployment might be cut in half by now.

Take off a peroid and correct a word. Is it right now? Any more grammar police want to step up? And blaze over the content of course.
Fixed. And it could still use another comma.

[spoon]

I just find it fantastic that it was Dude! giving such a fine critique. The guy who types in drunken wanna-be haikus all over the board taking an interest in sentence formation is quite comical.

[PapaBear]

I just find it fantastic that it was Dude! giving such a fine critique. The guy who types in drunken wanna-be haikus all over the board taking an interest in sentence formation is quite comical.
You have no
idea
how much I hated to
agree with him.

A dark day, indeed.

[spoon]

Dude!

[hanso]

I just find it fantastic that it was Dude! giving such a fine critique. The guy who types in drunken wanna-be haikus all over the board taking an interest in sentence formation is quite comical.

Had that afterthought also.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The bill will be paid for.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63732.html#comments


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[StanUpshaw]

Just print more money. Voila! Paid for!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just print more money. Voila! Paid for!

Dont give Helicopter Ben Bernanke any ideas

[spoon]

Dont give Helicopter Ben Bernanke any ideas

when did you attend the tenbats school of awful nicknames and cringe worthy posts?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

when did you attend the tenbats school of awful nicknames and cringe worthy posts?

I hope you didnt take his nickname literally.

Seriously, there are some democrats questioning this jobs bill. It was a joke from the beginning.

Obama is a lame duck, not too many people have faith in him or his policies, he turned out to be just another politician with empty promises

[spoon]

yes wf, that was my point right?

let me ask you this, who gets your vote right now? and would mccain have handled this mess handed down better in your mind? give me reasoning behind both answers

[hanso]

He views him as moderate. This should be good.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes wf, that was my point right?

let me ask you this, who gets your vote right now? and would mccain have handled this mess handed down better in your mind? give me reasoning behind both answers

Ron Paul. But lets be honest. He's got no chance. He's true to his principles just like Kucinich is to his.

Perry is no conservative.
Bachmann? Haaaa
Mitt? another false prophet



McCain? Come on, probably the worst person ever to run for office. Hes a fucking joke.


Face it, Obamas not your boyfriend as Bill Maher said.

[spoon]

Ron Paul. But lets be honest. He's got no chance. He's true to his principles just like Kucinich is to his.

Perry is no conservative.
Bachmann? Haaaa
Mitt? another false prophet



McCain? Come on, probably the worst person ever to run for office. Hes a fucking joke.


Face it, Obamas not your boyfriend as Bill Maher said.

See, you get all pissy when I say you parrot catch phrases and bs nicknames from shows, yet you even add one as if it applies again to someone bc you simply state it. I'm by far no Obama suck ass, but he's as I say the lesser of evils at that point last election. We needed a change, not so much everything he claimed, but a simple party/philosophy difference nobody can deny. I'm hardly calling any politician my boyfriend in any fanboy way at all. He's just "better" than our other options then and possibly now, but we'll see.

[high fly]

Ron Paul. But lets be honest. He's got no chance. He's true to his principles just like Kucinich is to his.

Perry is no conservative.
Bachmann? Haaaa
Mitt? another false prophet



McCain? Come on, probably the worst person ever to run for office. Hes a fucking joke.


Face it, Obamas not your boyfriend as Bill Maher said.


Face it, WF.
You claim Obama will be defeated, but are unable to say who can or will do it.
You, uh, put yourself in a bit of a quandry there....

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Face it, WF.
You claim Obama will be defeated, but are unable to say who can or will do it.
You, uh, put yourself in a bit of a quandry there....

I think the best chance is Romney. Perry will fade in the polls. Who knows maybe Christie might enter. Theres talk about Pataki too.


Theres 14 more months until the election. Thats plenty of time for Obama to fuck up more

[WRESTLINGFAN]

See, you get all pissy when I say you parrot catch phrases and bs nicknames from shows, yet you even add one as if it applies again to someone bc you simply state it. I'm by far no Obama suck ass, but he's as I say the lesser of evils at that point last election. We needed a change, not so much everything he claimed, but a simple party/philosophy difference nobody can deny. I'm hardly calling any politician my boyfriend in any fanboy way at all. He's just "better" than our other options then and possibly now, but we'll see.

A change for the worse if thats change. But we also got the same thing. Extending the patriot act, an expanding TSA another war, illegally started to boot. Crony capitalism and failure.

A lot of people think he wasnt progressive enough, but whos fault was that? He could have gotten everything he wanted for almost 2 years as he had majorities in both houses.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From the CBC. If it was whitey it would be different.

Fucking hacks


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20108173-503544.html

[JimBeam]

I always lose track of where you're supposed to put anti-Obama stuff.

Is it here based on the title in a sarastic manner or is it in the one that actually suggests he's the worst ?

Either way I'm not sure if this was covered last week but I think it's pretty crazy :

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/obama-admin-reworked-solyndra-1182334.html

I don't even care that there are ties to Obama's fund raising but what bothers me is that the company shouldn't have even been approved for the loan and that there was any effort made to ensure that private loans were paid back before gov't ones.

Maybe I'm naive and this kinda thing happens all the time but it sure does sound shady.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://cagle.com/news/Solyndra/images/allie.jpg


http://cagle.com/news/Solyndra/images/tjones.jpg

[JimBeam]

This is the part that infuriates me :

Administration officials defended the loan restructuring, saying that without an infusion of cash earlier this year, solar panel maker Solyndra Inc. would likely have faced immediate bankruptcy, putting more than 1,000 people out of work.

Even with the federal help, Solyndra filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection earlier this month and laid off its 1,100 employees.

You know what if you're not good at your business you shoud fail and it shouldn't cost the rest of us $500 million.

We're an f-ing corporate welfare program now.

Nobody seems to care about all of the people put out of work in other industries but we have to save the auto people and save the alternate energy people no matter what the cost.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Solyndra went to the Bush admin for a loan. They were turned down because it had a bad business model. However Obama and his infinite wisdom had to rush this and as predicted it would go belly up in Sep 2011.


But hey its only half a billion


We are still on the hook for tens of billions for the auto bailouts. Now these dopes want to give out sign on bonuses of 5K.

GM is not turning a profit. They did not pay their loans back.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama calls for the Buffet rule. Ironic that the old fool from Omaha still owes massive amounts going back to 2002

[JimBeam]

I was just reading that 2 Democratic representatives, one from CA and the other from CO, have noted that the CEO of the company assured them only a few months ago that the company would double its profits in 2011.

The guy was supposed to testify in front of Congress this week but backed out due to issues havin gto deal with the bankruptcy.

They should put that POS in shackles and drag him to Washington.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Solyndra needs to be investigated by Issa's committee, However what is even more disturbing is that this fast and the furious scandal is being swept under the rug and Holder isnt stepping down. That POS needs to be standing fast in front of Congress

[hanso]

Solyndra went to the Bush admin for a loan. They were turned down because it had a bad business model. However Obama and his infinite wisdom had to rush this and as predicted it would go belly up in Sep 2011.


But hey its only half a billion


We are still on the hook for tens of billions for the auto bailouts. Now these dopes want to give out sign on bonuses of 5K.

GM is not turning a profit. They did not pay their loans back.

It was approved under Bush. They were last in line.

[StanUpshaw]

This is the part that infuriates me :



You know what if you're not good at your business you shoud fail and it shouldn't cost the rest of us $500 million.

We're an f-ing corporate welfare program now.

Nobody seems to care about all of the people put out of work in other industries but we have to save the auto people and save the alternate energy people no matter what the cost.

WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION THE WISDOM OF OUR BENEVOLENT CENTRAL PLANNERS!l!!????

[Syd]

Solyndra still isn't as bad as the Republican's handing out money to Halliburton via no-bid contracts to transport sailboat fuel in the Middle East. You never heard people complaining about that!

[high fly]

Face it, WF.
You claim Obama will be defeated, but are unable to say who can or will do it.
You, uh, put yourself in a bit of a quandry there....

I think the best chance is Romney. Perry will fade in the polls. Who knows maybe Christie might enter. Theres talk about Pataki too.


The guy you wrote off as a "false prophet" in your list of those with "no chance"?
Somehow you are managing to fail to see your own self-contradiction.

How well is Pataki or Christie doing in the polls head to head with Obama?
Other than your own fantasies, what about Pataki or Christie makes you think he can beat Obama?
You think just because there is "talk" they "might" enter the race means they will not just enter, but get the nod and then beat Obama?
That's it?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The guy you wrote off as a "false prophet" in your list of those with "no chance"?
Somehow you are managing to fail to see your own self-contradiction.

How well is Pataki or Christie doing in the polls head to head with Obama?
Other than your own fantasies, what about Pataki or Christie makes you think he can beat Obama?
You think just because there is "talk" they "might" enter the race means they will not just enter, but get the nod and then beat Obama?
That's it?

In my opinion Mitt is. However there are tens of millions of other voters and according to them he's the most electable


Pataki and Christie dont have as much baggage as Romney. I havent seen any polling of those 2 against Obama.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It was approved under Bush. They were last in line.

Doesnt make it right. GM is still majority owned by the Feds, they could have halted those bonuses

[foodcourtdruide]

In my opinion Mitt is. However there are tens of millions of other voters and according to them he's the most electable


Pataki and Christie dont have as much baggage as Romney. I havent seen any polling of those 2 against Obama.

Romney has been under the scrutiny of being an active presidential candidate for the last 4-5 years.

Pataki has pretty much been in oblivion and Christie has only been a known name for a short period of time. Point is, if they did make a serious run they will likely acquire some baggage. I know this hurts you, but at the moment even if Americans think obama isn't doing a great job, there really isn't a great solution being presented by the GOP.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Romney has been under the scrutiny of being an active presidential candidate for the last 4-5 years.

Pataki has pretty much been in oblivion and Christie has only been a known name for a short period of time. Point is, if they did make a serious run they will likely acquire some baggage. I know this hurts you, but at the moment even if Americans think obama isn't doing a great job, there really isn't a great solution being presented by the GOP.

All candidates have baggage and are open to criticism about it. Romneys albatross is Romneycare. Obama had little name recognition in 2007. His claim to fame back then was giving a speech at the '04 convention. Other than that he was a junior senator.

The election is 14 months away. Plenty of time for things to get worse. Everything this president has ginned up has turned to shit. There is little confidence in him and he can not win it back amongst the majority.

[Jujubees2]

The election is 14 months away. Plenty of time for things to get worse. Everything this president has ginned up has turned to shit. There is little confidence in him and he can not win it back amongst the majority.

Your optimism is quite refreshing WF. Nothing like hoping the country goes down the drain.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Your optimism is quite refreshing WF. Nothing like hoping the country goes down the drain.

It's already there.

[StanUpshaw]

Romney has been under the scrutiny of being an active presidential candidate for the last 4-5 years.

Pataki has pretty much been in oblivion and Christie has only been a known name for a short period of time. Point is, if they did make a serious run they will likely acquire some baggage. I know this hurts you, but at the moment even if Americans think obama isn't doing a great job, there really isn't a great solution being presented by the GOP.

Great solutions don't win elections. "Change" does.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hope does too

[high fly]

Probably not, but I figure the other thread can be the one slamming everything he does, and this can be the one used when something goes right.

The problem is there are folks who are unable to read and understand the titles of various threads.
There is one for Obama being the worst president ever, but the reading comprehension-challenged don't get it...

[PapaBear]

The funny thing is, the other thread was pretty much started as a joke.

[hanso]

Good thing the right is on a crusade to deregulate all of business. Higher profits, a better economy and more jobs will surely follow. Just look to Full Tilt Poker as a great example.

[StanUpshaw]

They are a great example. The US government, under the guise of the fucking Patriot Act, criminalize online fucking poker, an act that 3 million Americans willingly participate in. They threatened hundreds of financial institutions and kept them from transferring any funds, and seized hundreds of millions of dollars. And guess what?? The sites end up with cash shortages! So then they use that as the pretext for more indictments. So yes, this is a perfect example of what happens as a result of the American regulatory complex.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Darrell Issa just grew a spine and is now calling for Special prosecutor for fast and furious.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Amazing how Obama bitches about the rich but will whore himself out for a 38K a plate fundraiser the same day of his speech

[Bob Impact]

They are a great example. The US government, under the guise of the fucking Patriot Act, criminalize online fucking poker, an act that 3 million Americans willingly participate in. They threatened hundreds of financial institutions and kept them from transferring any funds, and seized hundreds of millions of dollars. And guess what?? The sites end up with cash shortages! So then they use that as the pretext for more indictments. So yes, this is a perfect example of what happens as a result of the American regulatory complex.

Greatest post in the history of this forum.

Shut it down.

[Dude!]

yeah, we really do live
in Animal Farm

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://cagle.com/working/110908/garymccoy.jpg

[Jujubees2]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s320x320/165107_190453920980127_108038612554992_683687_7651 77_n.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The return of the Messiah will be a 180 degree opposite

[Jujubees2]

The return of the Messiah will be a 180 degree opposite

A white guy, who loves war and wants to charge a lot for health care?

George Bush is the Messiah? (or is it Dick Cheney)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Maybe a skinny half white guy with a funny name who loves war

[Dude!]

Maybe a skinny half white guy with a funny name who loves war

no, that would be the return
of satan

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow in 3 years he went from a Messiah to the devil

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Way to go holder, keep taunting US citizens and intervening in states issues. Why doesnt the POS sue sanctuary cities?

He has the interests of foreigners over citizens.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65424.html#comments

After all he condones murdering border patrol agents by shipping guns to Mexican drug lords

[cougarjake13]

Wow in 3 years he went from a Messiah to the devil

took jesus only 3 days

[hanso]

http://i.imgur.com/kAXCl.jpg (http://imgur.com/kAXCl)
Which lead to drought on a biblical level.

[hanso]

http://i.imgur.com/kAXCl.jpg (http://imgur.com/kAXCl)
Which lead to drought on a biblical level.

Same have said Rick Perry never showed a religious side until the run up to the election.




"In June 2011, Perry proclaimed August 6 as a Day of Prayer and Fasting, inviting other governors to join him in a prayer meeting hosted by the American Family Association in Houston."

"The event was criticized as going beyond prayer and fasting to include launching Perry's presidential campaign"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry#Religion

American Family Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Family_Association

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of Perry there goes the black vote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/03/texas-governor-rick-perry_n_992712.html

Unless he owns a ranch called Wetback gulch, Hes still got the hispanic vote locked up

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So whos going to be the Woodward and Bernstein for the 21st Century ?

Woodward and Bernstein uncovered a system of political "dirty tricks" and crimes that eventually led to indictments White House and administration officials, and ultimately to the resignation of Nixon


Difference this time, with Fast and Furious, people have been killed.

Dont expect a special counsel because the Atty Gen has to appoint someone for that. Best is for Issa to keep issuing Subpoenas to Holder and the DoJ, ATF DEA .

[WRESTLINGFAN]

One kickback from the Stimulus


http://www.clickorlando.com/traffic/29448416/detail.html

[Furtherman]

BREAKING NEWS

Official: U.S. to pull most troops from Iraq by year's end after failing to reach deal on leaving forces for training


'bout frackin' time.

[A.J.]

BREAKING NEWS

Official: U.S. to pull most troops from Iraq by year's end after failing to reach deal on leaving forces for training

'bout frackin' time.

And now Iran can move in...moreso.

[StanUpshaw]

And now Iran can move in...moreso.

Well how else are we going to get pretext to attack them?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wheres the next Muslim country that we will attack?

[Furtherman]

Rush is going to need extra pills to think of a reason why our troops coming home is a bad thing.

[A.J.]

Well how else are we going to get pretext to attack them?

Israel will ask us?

[Gutter]

shitmydadsays

"Bullshit. War ain't over till people stop shooting. You can't say you're done taking a crap if shit's still coming out of your ass."

[brettmojo]

Wheres the next Muslim country that we will attack?
Thanksgiving is coming up... My money is on Turkey.

[Dude!]

Thanksgiving is coming up... My money is on Turkey.

yum...
that makes me hungry for
a tunisia fish sandwich

[CurseoftheBambi]

Can't wait to see the spin anthony will put on this....

[Earlshog]

Thanksgiving is coming up... My money is on Turkey.

The Armenians will be happy.

Just when they started gaining on the Greeks...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My money is on invading Easter Island on Christmas

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In other words we are being evicted

Well at least there will be tons of jobs when they get back. Oh wait. maybe not

http://www.nationaljournal.com/u-s-troop-withdrawal-motivated-by-iraqi-insistence-not-u-s-choice-20111021

[hanso]

And now Iran can move in...moreso.

Not if zombie Saddam Hussein has any say in the matter.

[hanso]

Can't wait to see the spin anthony will put on this....

He can just parrot John McCain or some talking heads at Fox News.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So what happens if there are troops past 12/31/11? Will it be blamed on Sandstorms?


I don't believe every last one will be out. We built a massive fortress type embassy. It wont just be Marine guards there.

[Syd]

Anti-labor bill in Ohio fails. Anti-choice bill may fail in Mississippi.

The anti-worker/anti-woman movement may have reached its high water mark finally.

[Dude!]

Anti-labor bill in Ohio fails. Anti-choice bill may fail in Mississippi.

The anti-worker/anti-woman movement may have reached its high water mark finally.

how did the referendum
on the health care mandate
do in ohio?

[epo]

Anti-labor bill in Ohio fails. Anti-choice bill may fail in Mississippi.

The anti-worker/anti-woman movement may have reached its high water mark finally.

Also the anti-voter bill in Maine fails.

We truly live in a teeter-totter political world and it looks like the tide could come in quite well for Obama in 2012.

[Syd]

how did the referendum
on the health care mandate
do in ohio?

I think it failed, but, the bill is so fucked up and poorly written that it's not going to enforce much nor will it be able to stop Obamacare

[Dude!]

I think it failed, but, the bill is so fucked up and poorly written that it's not going to enforce much nor will it be able to stop Obamacare

it was a rhetorical question...
it went down 2:1

[StanUpshaw]

It will go down 5:4 in the only place it counts.

[Syd]

What? No way, regardless of political leanings if there's one thing the SCOTUS can be counted on is to be federalists. I'd be amazed if it is anything other than a 7-2 or 8-1 decision with some token resistance by Scalia or Thomas. I guess you can throw Alito in too if he doesn't have an opinion of his own.

[keithy_19]

Thanksgiving is coming up... My money is on Turkey.

I hope not. I'm slightly known in Turkey (I did films with Turkish directors).

[StanUpshaw]

I hope not. I'm slightly known in Turkey (I did films with Turkish directors).

Oh, Billy....

[A.J.]

Oh, Billy....

:clap:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Congrats Ohio when your municipal workers are laid off because theres no money don't come crying to me in CT to bail out your state you buckeye fucks.

[Bob Impact]

I think it failed, but, the bill is so fucked up and poorly written that it's not going to enforce much nor will it be able to stop Obamacare

Of course it won't...

Huge chunks of Obamacare never being granted funding will kill it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Let Presidents serve more than 2 terms says Bill



http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/314132

[Bob Impact]

Let Presidents serve more than 2 terms says Bill



http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/314132

God I wish we could re-elect Clinton.

Also,
“I've always thought that should be the rule,” said Clinton. “I think as a practical matter, you couldn't apply it to anyone who has already served, but going forward, I personally believe that should be the rule.”

[Gutter]

God I wish we could re-elect Clinton.



fuck yea. he was brilliant on Daily Show last night. What is he doing btw? Does he have a job helping us fix things? If we're not using that mans brain while he's still around, that's a god damned tragedy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

fuck yea. he was brilliant on Daily Show last night. What is he doing btw? Does he have a job helping us fix things? If we're not using that mans brain while he's still around, that's a god damned tragedy.

He has a foundation called Clinton Global Initiative

[A.J.]

Let Presidents serve more than 2 terms says Bill



http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/314132

Actually, I agree with him. The two-term limit is bullshit. If the Legislative and Judicial bodies aren't term-limited, why should the Executive be?

[StanUpshaw]

They all should have limits.

You guys are just joshin' right?

[Bob Impact]

Im not saying there should be no limits, there should be, what I am saying is that 3 is an absolutely realistic number for term limits.

[A.J.]

They all should have limits.

You guys are just joshin' right?

I'm not. Term limits are done at the voting booth.

Besides, since Presidents are lame ducks if they get two terms, second terms tend to be awful.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

People of NYC wanted 2 terms. Bloomberg said fuck that Im running for a 3rd term.

[StanUpshaw]

I'm not. Term limits are done at the voting booth.


95% incumbency rates really speak to the truth of that.

[Furtherman]

fuck yea. he was brilliant on Daily Show last night. What is he doing btw? Does he have a job helping us fix things? If we're not using that mans brain while he's still around, that's a god damned tragedy.

Agreed. That was a great interview. But even if we could re-instate Clinton tomorrow, the Republicans would still continue blocking job bills for the sake of blocking job bills because they're big uncooperative babies.

[A.J.]

95% incumbency rates really speak to the truth of that.

I didn't say the electorate was bright, but if the majority likes the person, they should have the right to keep that person in office for as long as they want.

EDIT: New Haven, CT has turned into a bigger shithole and they just reelected the Mayor to a 10th term. DC will vote democrat until the sun goes nova. Let them wallow in their stupidity. I'm glad I moved away from both.

[StanUpshaw]

I didn't say the electorate was bright, but if the majority likes the person, they should have the right to keep that person in office for as long as they want.

EDIT: New Haven, CT has turned into a bigger shithole and they just reelected the Mayor to a 10th term. DC will vote democrat until the sun goes nova. Let them wallow in their stupidity. I'm glad I moved away from both.

Checks and balances. The rest of us can't be held hostage by the ignorance and apathy of the masses.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I didn't say the electorate was bright, but if the majority likes the person, they should have the right to keep that person in office for as long as they want.

EDIT: New Haven, CT has turned into a bigger shithole and they just reelected the Mayor to a 10th term. DC will vote democrat until the sun goes nova. Let them wallow in their stupidity. I'm glad I moved away from both.

Speaking of Electorates not bright and CT

Senator Dick Blumenthal

[hanso]

House to start a zygote party. Blow jobs on the chopping block next.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

House to start a zygote party. Blow jobs on the chopping block next.

Barney Frank will not like that.

[hanso]

http://i.imgur.com/K0KvC.jpg (http://imgur.com/K0KvC)
Ask this "person"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://i.imgur.com/K0KvC.jpg (http://imgur.com/K0KvC)
Ask this "person"

Got voted down in Mississippi. The world might be coming to an end

[hanso]

Got voted down in Mississippi. The world might be coming to an end

It could go national as the latest ploy to get the knuckle dragging God squad to the polls.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It could go national as the latest ploy to get the knuckle dragging God squad to the polls.

We are living in some crazy times. Iowa a state known for its family values social conservative base approved Gay marriage where as Progressive California voted it down.

[epo]

It could go national as the latest ploy to get the knuckle dragging God squad to the polls.

Fuck Paul Ryan and his stupid gimmicks.

[StanUpshaw]

We are living in some crazy times. Iowa a state known for its family values social conservative base approved Gay marriage where as Progressive California voted it down.

Well, not exactly. It was decided in the courts, and the judges responsible were ousted at the first opportunity.

[hanso]

We are living in some crazy times. Iowa a state known for its family values social conservative base approved Gay marriage where as Progressive California voted it down.

That was the last ploy. Look what happened we now have 7 states that have approved Gay marriage.

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/JW4qD.jpg

[hanso]

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[cougarjake13]

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hilarious


she looks like the bastard child of bam margera and julia stiles

[spoon]

it's amazing how much shit alaska adds to our government

good thing dr. rice was there to answer all his well thought out questions being that he admitted there wasn't a chance you could impact him in any way

[WRESTLINGFAN]

it's amazing how much shit alaska adds to our government

good thing dr. rice was there to answer all his well thought out questions being that he admitted there wasn't a chance you could impact him in any way

Should they secede?


We could pick up Puerto Rico to bring it back to 50

[hanso]

Should they secede?


We could pick up Puerto Rico to bring it back to 50

If we can trade it to the Ruskies for oil. Sounds good to me.

[epo]

Should they secede?

We could pick up Puerto Rico to bring it back to 50

We should add Mexico.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We should add Mexico.



We did, it's called California and Texas

[A.J.]

Texas

Speaking of states I wish would secede....

[Jujubees2]

Speaking of states I wish would secede....

Maybe when Perry doesn't get the Republican nomination he'll go back to Texas and secede so he can be president of the country of Texas...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of states I wish would secede....

Agreed. Lets add Guam as a replacement.

[sailor]

Speaking of states I wish would secede....

Trying to give away all our domestic oil with Texas and Alaska?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If we can trade it to the Ruskies for oil. Sounds good to me.

Lets throw in the Palin's too

[A.J.]

Trying to give away all our domestic oil with Texas and Alaska?

No....stupid Presidents and Presidential candidates.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im sure they will be touting the 8.6% unemployment rate today, but as usual its a shellgame


300K Just completely gave up.