Obama - Best President Ever?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Congressman Amnesty is on point.


Hes right. Reagan sighned amnesty which opened up the floodgates of illegals to bar down the door, they reproduced, Clinton signs NAFTA more come thru and Bush was Mr Open borders.

More illegals can come thru and produce more anchor babies and more SNAP.

[Crispy123]

Congressman Amnesty is on point.


Hes right. Reagan sighned amnesty which opened up the floodgates of illegals to bar down the door, they reproduced, Clinton signs NAFTA more come thru and Bush was Mr Open borders.

More illegals can come thru and produce more anchor babies and more SNAP.

Yes, this country was founded on amnesty for illegal immigrants.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He fails to mention that during Reagan and and Bush 41 Congress was mostly democrat. When The GOP took over they spent lavishly and even more when Bush 43 became President

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes, this country was founded on amnesty for illegal immigrants.

It wasn't founded to have a giant federal government with lavish entitlements.

[Crispy123]

food for kids and old people to eat. sooooo lavish. :thumbdown:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

food for kids and old people to eat. sooooo lavish. :thumbdown:

Should be left to the states. Nowhere under article 1 section 8 does it say anything about Food stamps

[Crispy123]

Should be left to the states. Nowhere under article 1 section 8 does it say anything about Food stamps

so the space program and the internet should be regulated by the states too?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so the space program and the internet should be regulated by the states too?

In regards to taxes on items from websites like Amazon yes. If one state wants to charge a sales tax and another one doesnt then thats ok.


Now since NASA launches satellites for Defense as an example it shouldnt be left to the states.

[Crispy123]

In regards to taxes on items from websites like Amazon yes. If one state wants to charge a sales tax and another one doesnt then thats ok.


Now since NASA launches satellites for Defense as an example it shouldnt be left to the states.

so you pick and choose whatever the hell you want to support your views, dismiss most reasonable arguments and blindly hate President Obama. Why you don't run for office? You sound like the perfect tea bagger candidate.

[A.J.]

President "I don't want kids to starve in America"

They wouldn't starve if the poor stopped breeding.

[Crispy123]

They wouldn't starve if the poor stopped breeding.

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I don't know why Rep Gutierrez didn't bring that up?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so you pick and choose whatever the hell you want to support your views, dismiss most reasonable arguments and blindly hate President Obama. Why you don't run for office? You sound like the perfect tea bagger candidate.

Its not picking and choosing. Its separating what powers the federal government has and whats prohibited.


Your typical teabagger wants to cut food stamps but keep the DoD budget bloated and start a war with Iran.

Why dont you just call for an article V convention and call for a national government

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I don't know why Rep Gutierrez didn't bring that up?

Kids arent starving. Have you seen these fat penguins waddling around?


I concur. If youre poor have some responsibility and not procreate.


Didnt Obama borrow 800 billion dollars so that we wouldnt have an expanded recipient class?

[weekapaugjz]

Kids arent starving.

you seriously don't believe this, do you?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you seriously don't believe this, do you?

In Africa yes but not in America

[weekapaugjz]

In Africa yes but not in America

you're retarded.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you're retarded.

If anything we do have a childhood Obesity problem. FLOTUS started the LETS MOVE program.


Besides. low income children are provided Breakfast and Lunch at schools.

[weekapaugjz]

If anything we do have a childhood Obesity problem. FLOTUS started the LETS MOVE program.

yes, they are two different problems. some kids go hungry, others have shitty nutrition. both are problems.


Besides. low income children are provided Breakfast and Lunch at schools.

how about the kids who are below the school age? in the early developmental where proper nutrition is critical for healthy kids.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, they are two different problems. some kids go hungry, others have shitty nutrition. both are problems.

Both have factors of bad parenting as a case


how about the kids who are below the school age? in the early developmental where proper nutrition is critical for healthy kids.

There are already programs like WIC in place.


Im not saying that these people live like A List celebrities but I have seen utter abject poverty when I was in the Marine corps. Detroit looks like beverly hills compared to Mogadishu


Also look at these all inclusive resorts. Once you leave the buble of these places and see how things actually are then you will see poverty.

[weekapaugjz]

There are already programs like WIC in place.


Im not saying that these people live like A List celebrities but I have seen utter abject poverty when I was in the Marine corps. Detroit looks like beverly hills compared to Mogadishu


Also look at these all inclusive resorts. Once you leave the buble of these places and see how things actually are then you will see poverty.

so because detroit and other blighted cities aren't as bad as places like mogadishu, the people's problems there should be dismissed?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so because detroit and other blighted cities aren't as bad as places like mogadishu, the people's problems there should be dismissed?

Thats not what Im saying Im saying that there should be some responsibility on the parents part. Also supermarkets are stocked with fruit veggies and such.

WIC prevents purchases of Junk food but there arent limitations on SNAP. However theres a lot of abuse going on with these programs in which junk food is being purchased.


Also my point is that this should be left to the states and local food shelters and charities.

[weekapaugjz]

Thats not what Im saying Im saying that there should be some responsibility on the parents part. Also supermarkets are stocked with fruit veggies and such.

WIC prevents purchases of Junk food but there arent limitations on SNAP. However theres a lot of abuse going on with these programs in which junk food is being purchased.


Also my point is that this should be left to the states and local food shelters and charities.

blame the parents for being poor! fresh fruit and veggies and stuff is a lot more expensive than the canned stuff.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

blame the parents for being poor! fresh fruit and veggies and stuff is a lot more expensive than the canned stuff.

Blame poor people for having more children.


poor people are still heavily influenced by the church and religion.


If you shop at Whole foods or Fairway its more expensive. Stop and Shop doesnt charge thru the nose for fresh produce. Hell its even cheaper with a club card.

[weekapaugjz]

Blame poor people for having more children.

but there you are arguing in other threads about not making contraceptives more available to people! :huh:

If you shop at Whole foods or Fairway its more expensive. Stop and Shop doesnt charge thru the nose for fresh produce. Hell its even cheaper with a club card.

and still more expensive than the canned shit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

but there you are arguing in other threads about not making contraceptives more available to people! :huh:



and still more expensive than the canned shit.

I'm not on the side of the Church when it comes to abortion or contraception, The church is against having to fully pay for contraceptions, they are not opposed to a small copay.

Fresh produce isnt going to break the bank.

[A.J.]

but there you are arguing in other threads about not making contraceptives more available to people! :huh:

They're available at damn near every pharmacy and supermarket.

[weekapaugjz]

Fresh produce isnt going to break the bank.

for people on a very limited budget it does.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

for people on a very limited budget it does.

How about they cut the cable TV for example.

[weekapaugjz]

nevermind.

[Crispy123]

nevermind.

what is, "how every conversation with WF ends," Alex?

[weekapaugjz]

what is, "how every conversation with WF ends," Alex?

:lol::thumbup::clap:

[underdog]

Blame poor people for having more children.


poor people are still heavily influenced by the church and religion.


If you shop at Whole foods or Fairway its more expensive. Stop and Shop doesnt charge thru the nose for fresh produce. Hell its even cheaper with a club card.

The produce at Fairway in Brooklyn is cheaper than Stop and Shop in Massachusetts.

[underdog]

nevermind.

:lol:

It's just funny watching different people get into arguments with WF and the outcome really is always the same.

[weekapaugjz]

:lol:

It's just funny watching different people get into arguments with WF and the outcome really is always the same.

you'd think we'd all learn that lesson by now.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Luxury suites for Obamas acceptance at BofA stadium


Obama to the 99% fuck you

[underdog]

you'd think we'd all learn that lesson by now.

It's cyclical. People see something stupid posted, start responding to it, then remember what happened last time. It's funny to watch.

[Furtherman]

Luxury suites for Obamas acceptance at BofA stadium


Obama to the 99% fuck you

Yea, he should sit behind home plate.

[Furtherman]

Oh, and nevermind.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yea, he should sit behind home plate.

Its a football stadium


Also BofA was bailed out. And why the hell does he need 100k people to give an acceptance speech to?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh, and nevermind.

A good Nirvana CD :thumbup:

[Earlshog]

you'd think we'd all learn that lesson by now.

:laugh:

[StanUpshaw]

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[hanso]

Yea, he should sit behind home plate.

And Moonwalk.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Too bad theres not a Goldman Sachs stadium he could have his speech there

[Bob Impact]

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The comments section for that video should be classified a disaster zone.

[hanso]

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As part of the entertainment during CPAC’s Red Carpet Blogger Awards on Friday morning, occasional Fox News contributor Steven Crowder and rapping pal Chris Loesch, married to the conservative political analyst Dana Loesch, staged a live performance of their new song, “Mr. America.”

All hail CPAC!

[Bob Impact]

As part of the entertainment during CPAC’s Red Carpet Blogger Awards on Friday morning, occasional Fox News contributor Steven Crowder and rapping pal Chris Loesch, married to the conservative political analyst Dana Loesch, staged a live performance of their new song, “Mr. America.”

All hail CPAC!

That's the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama was flavor of the month too.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-catches-lin-sanity-very-impressed-jeremy-lin-173303323.html

[hanso]

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Republican Congressional leaders have failed to force President Obama to approve the Keystone XL pipeline. But that’s not stopping them from trying over and over again, taking hostages in the process.

First they used the payroll tax cut extension as a vehicle to force a decision on the pipeline in sixty days, even before the final route was identified. President Obama was forced to disapprove the permit because there was no time to assess its potential pollution.

This week, several senators took a different hostage: our emergency oil supply. On February 13, Senators David Vitter (R-LA), John Hoevan (R-ND), and Richard Lugar (R-IN) introduced the Strategic Petroleum Supplies Act, S. 2100 that would prevent President Obama from selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve unless Keystone is approved:

All this hostage stuff is very lowbrow.

http://current.com/http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/02/16/426603/senators-take-emergency-oil-reserve-hostage-to-force-keystone-approval/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He should have given Obama his fair share


http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/david-cross-admits-cocaine-president-obama-white-house-dinner-article-1.1025852

[hanso]

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WI state legislature Republican state Rep. Joel Kleefisch committing voter fraud on a voter ID (suppression) law of all things.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bill Maher donates 1mm to Obama superpac

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57384446-503544/bill-maher-donates-%241m-to-obama-super-pac/

[pennington]

Bill Maher donates 1mm to Obama superpac

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57384446-503544/bill-maher-donates-%241m-to-obama-super-pac/

Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher on Thursday night announced he's donating $1 million to Priorities USA Action, the super PAC supporting President Obama.

I find this news shocking because:

1) That Bill Maher has $1 million.

2) He is still considered a comedian.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Maher might be dealing pot now instead of just smoking it

[Bob Impact]

I find this news shocking because:

1) That Bill Maher has $1 million.

2) He is still considered a comedian.

9 Emmy nominations for his current show.

[underdog]

9 Emmy nominations for his current show.

Seriously.

The guy has a long running, hour long series that HBO treats as one of their flagship shows. He's doing just fine for money.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Seriously.

The guy has a long running, hour long series that HBO treats as one of their flagship shows. He's doing just fine for money.

He still does standup and im sure he made good money when he was on ABC

[underdog]

He still does standup and im sure he made good money when he was on ABC

and he probably gets to charge $80/head because he has a TV show when he's touring.

[hanso]

Religulous did well I thought.

[hanso]

House Votes Down Plan To Block Employers From Facebook Snooping

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57406124-281/house-votes-down-plan-to-block-employers-from-facebook-snooping/?tag=mncol;cnetRiver

The controversial - if not exactly common - practice of requiring job applicants to disclose their Facebook passwords briefly became ammunition for an unsuccessful Democratic effort to block an unrelated regulatory reform plan.

During the House of Representatives floor debate yesterday over a proposal (PDF) to reform the Federal Communications Commission, Rep. Ed Perlmutter, a Colorado Democrat, proposed that the bill be sent back to committee.

Then, Perlmutter proposed, the committee would be directed to send the bill back with a one-paragraph amendment allowing the FCC to prohibit telecommunications companies from requiring Facebook logins of prospective job applicants.

"If you are a Facebook user, you should never have to share your password... People have an expectation of privacy!" Perlmutter said.

[Bob Impact]

t was a transparent, if clever, delaying tactic. If Perlmutter actually wanted to add that pro-privacy section to the bill, he could have suggested an amendment instead of returning it to committee. And of the scarce reports that have trickled out about employers asking for Facebook credentials, the culprits seem mostly to be law enforcement agencies, which are not regulated by the FCC and would be unaffected by his bill.
Some background: the White House and House Democrats oppose the Republican-backed bill, titled the Federal Communications Commission Process Reform Act of 2012, on the grounds that it's unacceptable to require the currently Democratic-controlled agency to be more transparent and prepare economic impact analyses. A statement (PDF) the White House released on Monday complains the GOP bill would prevent the FCC from exercising "its statutory duty to protect the public interest."

Ah, that makes MUCH more sense.

[Crispy123]

Ah, that makes MUCH more sense.

Yep, get some Democratic points included in a bill and get the party of no to say...well, no. Pretty smart tactic.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Still hopeful

http://www.5min.com/Video/The-Promise-of-Hope-517318618

[Bob Impact]

Yep, get some Democratic points included in a bill and get the party of no to say...well, no. Pretty smart tactic.

Yeah, the Republicans should have voted on a useless amendment to the bill because the Democrats don't want the FCC to need to be more transparent. Let's all dance in the streets celebrating the wonder of our failing congressional system.

[Crispy123]

Yeah, the Republicans should have voted on a useless amendment to the bill because the Democrats don't want the FCC to need to be more transparent.

if it was such a useless amendment then why not vote on it and why do the republicans give a shit about transparency when they just want to get rid of useless government agencies like the FCC anyway?

Let's all dance in the streets celebrating the wonder of our failing congressional system.

yes Cuz thats anywhere near what I said. :dry:

[Crispy123]

two things:

1. The Supreme Court will uphold Affordable Care Act. Obama's Individual Mandate Not First Federal Health Care Mandate (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/01/obama-individual-mandate_n_1394705.html?ref=politics)

"It's so crazy to think that a society that has Social Security and Medicare would not find this (law) constitutional," said MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, who advised both the Obama administration and Massachusetts lawmakers as they developed the state mandate in the 2006 law that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney championed as governor.

"The payroll tax is worse than the mandate, because that is a program where we take your money and there is no ability to get out of it," Gruber said. Citizens can avoid the health insurance mandate by paying a penalty to the Internal Revenue Service.

2. The Republitards can't make up their minds if they hate out of control government spending or love it. O wait they hate it unless its a Republitard doing it, thats right!

House Republican Paul Ryan says misspoke on Pentagon budget (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-budget-defense-ryanbre8300cn-20120401,0,5183928.story)

"We (Republicans) take $300 billion out of defense spending versus the $500 billion that the president does in his budget. We think there are savings to be gotten there, but I think the president's hollowing it out."

[StanUpshaw]

And liberals believe government spending is some magical economic pixie dust, unless it goes to defense contractors, because among the many evil weapons of mayhem they've constructed, the most sinister is a sophisticated anti-stimulus forcefield that cancels out Keynesian multipliers with Keynesian reciprocals.




But no...it's the libertarians who are CRAZY!!!!!!

[Crispy123]

And liberals believe government spending is some magical economic pixie dust, unless it goes to defense contractors, because among the many evil weapons of mayhem they've constructed, the most sinister is a sophisticated anti-stimulus forcefield that cancels out Keynesian multipliers with Keynesian reciprocals.




But no...it's the libertarians who are CRAZY!!!!!!

Ooooh you can see the future AND read minds. Now thats impressive!!!:wink:

[StanUpshaw]

Ooooh you can see the future AND read minds. Now thats impressive!!!:wink:

Your acknowledgement of my superiority is all I've ever wanted.

Thank you.

[Crispy123]

I had to look up the term sarcastic yesterday. So thank you.

[hanso]

two things:

1. The Supreme Court will uphold Affordable Care Act. Obama's Individual Mandate Not First Federal Health Care Mandate (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/01/obama-individual-mandate_n_1394705.html?ref=politics)



2. The Republitards can't make up their minds if they hate out of control government spending or love it. O wait they hate it unless its a Republitard doing it, thats right!

House Republican Paul Ryan says misspoke on Pentagon budget (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-budget-defense-ryanbre8300cn-20120401,0,5183928.story)

Saw on some show they had a clip of him interviewed by some lady. Lady says it is common practice coming out of war/wars to lower the budget.

He said something like this.

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[StanUpshaw]

I had to look up the term sarcastic yesterday. So thank you.

I think I've finally figured you out. This is the sort of thing you actually find funny. It's this weird, solipsistic sense of humor that's only funny to you, but that's all that matters, because you're outside the box looking in; we're all ants behind glass.

Then, working from that hypothesis, your atrocious standup actually makes all the sense in the world. Who could possibly do Pee Wee Herman impressions in 2012? And I think there was something about cunts tasting like niggers...empty shock value stuff. You don't actually mean it to be funny; you're satirizing standup comedy. It's an anti-funny metahumor.

But I see it now. It's really very clever.

Nicely done. :smoke:

[Crispy123]

I looked up solipsism and I am very interested in that philosophy specifically epistemological solipsism. I think you are a pretty smart dude sometimes.

You nailed a conversation I had the other day with a magician buddy of mine. I have 2 stage personas basically right now and I was describing the one to my friend as an anti-comic. "Comedy thats guaranteed to leave your skin intact."

[StanUpshaw]

Cool.

Let's fuck.

[Crispy123]

Cool.

Let's fuck.

Your acknowledgement of my sex appeal is all I've ever wanted.:wub:

[spoon]

nice location

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001083581/pumpkin_puke_xlarge.jpeg

[hanso]

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Did anyone watch Face the Nation today? I had it on DVR but the last segment was cut off, this is that last segment. Before this the Archdiocese of New York - Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan was going off and he stuck his finger right up his nose on camera it was weird.

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You can see him waving his finger around, I swear he puts it right up his nose if you can find the full show.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7404660n
This should be the link for it.

[Furtherman]

(Newser) – So much for the Romney Rule. President Obama has settled on another way to rebrand the Buffett Rule, which would impose a 30% minimum tax on income above $1 million, Roll Call reports. "I’m not the first president to call for this idea that everybody’s got to do their fair share," he said in a speech in Washington today, surrounded by millionaires and their secretaries. "That wild-eyed, socialist, tax-hiking class warrior was Ronald Reagan."

Reagan, Obama explained, had once "traveled across the country pushing for the same concept," even giving a speech in which he spoke of a millionaire who paid lower taxes than his secretary, and how wrong that was. "If it’ll help convince folks in Congress to make the right choice, we can call it the Reagan Rule instead of the Buffett Rule," Obama said. He quipped that Reagan's position "might disqualify him from Republican primaries these days."


Using the right's own stupid ideoligies aganst them. Nice.

I don't think the bill will pass, but I do appreciate him saying something.

[A.J.]

30%? Even most religions ask you to tithe 10%.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Buffett loves taxes...


As long as he avoids them


http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/wall_street/31284723_1_top-federal-income-tax-warren-buffett-judge-learned-hand

[Bob Impact]

Using the right's own stupid ideoligies aganst them. Nice.

I don't think the bill will pass, but I do appreciate him saying something.

So Reagan was a good president now?

Awesome! Trickle down economics for all!

[hanso]

Using the right's own stupid ideoligies aganst them. Nice.

I don't think the bill will pass, but I do appreciate him saying something.

Reagan the socialist Lol WTG.



It wasn't by choice Bob it was fail/save face.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The war on women is coming from the top.

so basically it's ok to be a sexist, along with being a liar, a war monger, in bed with wall street, rich, infringe on civil liberties, etc. as long as there's a (D) after your name.

http://freebeacon.com/hostile-workplace/

[epo]

The war on women is coming from the top.

so basically it's ok to be a sexist, along with being a liar, a war monger, in bed with wall street, rich, infringe on civil liberties, etc. as long as there's a (D) after your name.

http://freebeacon.com/hostile-workplace/

Already debunked.

Cut it with the shitty talking points.

[Furtherman]

Cut it with the shitty talking points.

But then there would be nothing to discuss.

[underdog]

Already debunked.

Cut it with the shitty talking points.

you might as well just tell him to stop posting.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Already debunked.

Cut it with the shitty talking points.

That was from the WH's own numbers


Facts like starting wars without congressional consent, sending troops as so called advisors to Africa, Being a whore to Goldman Sachs and big business, Signing the NDAA and extending the patriot act are considered bullshit talking points?

Shows your hackery. Face it, Obama is just like all the rest. Just another politician beholden to his pimps and handlers on Wall St . Thats your fuckin change!!!

[epo]

That was from the WH's own numbers


Facts like starting wars without congressional consent, sending troops as so called advisors to Africa, Being a whore to Goldman Sachs and big business, Signing the NDAA and extending the patriot act are considered bullshit talking points?

Shows your hackery. Face it, Obama is just like all the rest. Just another politician beholden to his pimps and handlers on Wall St . Thats your fuckin change!!!

Its like you have zero ability to read. From the third paragraph of the article itself:

Calculating the median salary for each gender required some assumptions to be made based on the employee names. When unclear, every effort was taken to determine the appropriate gender.

Seriously, are you dumb, or are so fucking driven by hate that you refuse to actually read the very articles that you post?

Jerkoff.

[epo]

That was from the WH's own numbers


Facts like starting wars without congressional consent, sending troops as so called advisors to Africa, Being a whore to Goldman Sachs and big business, Signing the NDAA and extending the patriot act are considered bullshit talking points?

Shows your hackery. Face it, Obama is just like all the rest. Just another politician beholden to his pimps and handlers on Wall St . Thats your fuckin change!!!

In fact let's take it one step further you douchebag, look at the source data from the 2011 Report to Congress on White House Staff. Link here (https://opendata.socrata.com/Government/2011-Report-to-Congress-on-White-House-Staff/73t8-rw4g).

If you bothered to read and analyze data, you'd realize that "fairness" isn't the topic. Men and women make fair wages when compared to those in like roles, its just that more men hold higher jobs of importance.

Instead you chase the god-awful talking point like the fucking sheep that you are.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Its like you have zero ability to read. From the third paragraph of the article itself:



Seriously, are you dumb, or are so fucking driven by hate that you refuse to actually read the very articles that you post?

Jerkoff.

Thats your excuse? That paragraph debunks nothing Your fucking attempts to defend everything about this president and this administration is just off the chart.


Now the bigger problem is why the fuck are all these people necessary to be part of his staff? Holy shit this federal leviathan knows no limits

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In fact let's take it one step further you douchebag, look at the source data from the 2011 Report to Congress on White House Staff. Link here (https://opendata.socrata.com/Government/2011-Report-to-Congress-on-White-House-Staff/73t8-rw4g).

If you bothered to read and analyze data, you'd realize that "fairness" isn't the topic. Men and women make fair wages when compared to those in like roles, its just that more men hold higher jobs of importance.

Instead you chase the god-awful talking point like the fucking sheep that you are.

So not only is there a pay gap, The WH is still a boy;s club.


Sheep? Im not the one defending this president to the death.

[epo]

Thats your excuse? That paragraph debunks nothing Your fucking attempts to defend everything about this president and this administration is just off the chart.


Now the bigger problem is why the fuck are all these people necessary to be part of his staff? Holy shit this federal leviathan knows no limits

That's right, the President of the United States should have five staffers.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a child.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's right, the President of the United States should have five staffers.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a child.

Its not just the President with redundant staff. Theres also the insane amount of federal bureaucracies with hundreds of assistants to assistants ranging to the Pentagon to the Dept of Education and energy.

Big bloated government, gotta keep feeding the monster

[A.J.]

That's right, the President of the United States should have five staffers.

If only...

Take a look at the Federal yellow pages. See what your tax dollars are paying for in terms of useless and redundant staff.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yea the fed gov't isnt big at all.

All over DC there are quasi greek temples with millions of square feet with thousands of paper pushers for exactly what? Does the dept of education educate or the dept of energy produce energy? Those halls are just infested with people just handing regulations over to each other and contributing to the 15 trillion dollar debt and rising all while clueless tourists wander in the great archeticture of limestone and marble

[Crispy123]

Yea the fed gov't isnt big at all.

All over DC there are quasi greek temples with millions of square feet with thousands of paper pushers for exactly what? Does the dept of education educate or the dept of energy produce energy? Those halls are just infested with people just handing regulations over to each other and contributing to the 15 trillion dollar debt and rising all while clueless tourists wander in the great archeticture of limestone and marble

You need to move to Mexico. Their Federal govt is weak as fuck.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You need to move to Mexico. Their Federal govt is weak as fuck.

No need for that. I can go to LA , or Home Depot and I dont need a passport.

[Crispy123]

No need for that. I can go to LA , or Home Depot and I dont need a passport.

now I see your confusion. LA is a city and Home Depot is a mulitnational corporation, not a Federal government.

[spoon]

Yea the fed gov't isnt big at all.

All over DC there are quasi greek temples with millions of square feet with thousands of paper pushers for exactly what? Does the dept of education educate or the dept of energy produce energy? Those halls are just infested with people just handing regulations over to each other and contributing to the 15 trillion dollar debt and rising all while clueless tourists wander in the great archeticture of limestone and marble

You need to move to Mexico. Their Federal govt is weak as fuck.

I think this fits his "you don't like the stand your ground rule in Florida, move to another state" argument perfectly. Wouldn't you say Wf?

[spoon]

now I see your confusion. LA is a city and Home Depot is a mulitnational corporation, not a Federal government.

no no crispy, he had to make that same fucking joke/song and dance for the thousandth time

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think this fits his "you don't like the stand your ground rule in Florida, move to another state" argument perfectly. Wouldn't you say Wf?

Easier to move to another state than another country. I am a refugee from NY due to the high taxes

[spoon]

yah bc ct is so much different...and not even if you moved from any other spot but somewhere in NYC

you need to leave the country you fraud

I'm only going by your fucking asinine standards.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yah bc ct is so much different...and not even if you moved from any other spot but somewhere in NYC

you need to leave the country you fraud

I'm only going by your fucking asinine standards.

Yes it is.

No county government in CT so property taxes are much lower.


So you wanna deport me a native born American?

[Crispy123]

Yes it is.

No county government in CT so property taxes are much lower.


So you wanna deport me a native born America?

Spoon doesn't have that authority. Why would you ask a crazy question like that?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Spoon doesn't have that authority. Why would you ask a crazy question like that?

Ok so he wants me to self deport.

[Crispy123]

Ok so he wants me to self deport.

I know reading comprehension isn't a prerequisite for posting in political threads but following your own logic, YOU should WANT to leave.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I know reading comprehension isn't a prerequisite for posting in political threads but following your own logic, YOU should WANT to leave.

People like you wanted to leave in 2004 after Dubya got his 2nd term. I didnt see a mass exodus leaving for that fine Western European health care

I think you were still a Marine back then so going UA wouldnt be so good

[Crispy123]

People like you wanted to leave in 2004 after Dubya got his 2nd term. I didnt see a mass exodus leaving for that fine Western European health care

People like me? I actually reenlisted in 2004. You remember that oath?

I was an active duty Marine telling everyone who would listen how fucked up the Repibltards and the wars were tho. And I have to laugh when people like YOU try to lay the blame at President Obama's feet.

Try again tho.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

People like me? I actually reenlisted in 2004. You remember that oath?

I was an active duty Marine telling everyone who would listen how fucked up the Repibltards and the wars were tho. And I have to laugh when people like YOU try to lay the blame at President Obama's feet.

Try again tho.

Read my edit

Yea like Obama is such a peace president. Starting wars without congressional consent and using a bitch excuse like we were leading from behind and it was a NATO mission

Al Qaeda is now flying its flag in Libya. Those rebels ended up being Jihadists but when its your man in office Lets bomb those brown people.

Afghanistan is going great under his leadership

[Crispy123]

Read my edit

Yea like Obama is such a peace president. Starting wars without congressional consent and using a bitch excuse like we were leading from behind and it was a NATO mission


Afghanistan is going great under his leadership

Yes he got Osama Bin Laden brought to justice and a plan to drawdown troops, so I agree with you on Afghanistan

But exactly how does America start a Libyan civil war?

[StanUpshaw]

But exactly how does America start a Libyan civil war?

CIA

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes he got Osama Bin Laden brought to justice and a plan to drawdown troops, so I agree with you on Afghanistan

But exactly how does America start a Libyan civil war?

We were evicted from Iraq. That was brokered under dubya.


Shooting an Arab in the face didnt end terrorism,


Started our involvement you know what I meant. Obama violated the constitution and the war powers act.

[Crispy123]

CIA

LMFAO

Started our involvement you know what I meant. Obama violated the constitution and the war powers act.

Well If YOU said he did, that must be right. Lord knows everything you have said about the President has been accurate so far. :dry:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

LMFAO



Well If YOU said he did, that must be right. Lord knows everything you have said about the President has been accurate so far. :dry:

That hes a warmongering corporatist who suppresses civil liberties and is a whore to Wall St?

Pretty accurate to me

[Crispy123]

Ahhh the old, my current argument is shit so i will change it up to suit my narrative game...touche Wf, touche.

[StanUpshaw]

LMFAO


I was just making it up, but yeah, pretty much

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=CIA+Libyan+rebels

[Crispy123]

I was just making it up, but yeah, pretty much

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=CIA+Libyan+rebels

Those articles talk about hearings from the House Intelligence Committee and House Armed Services Committee. Meaning that if it was done, it was done with Congressional oversight and approval.

[StanUpshaw]

...and?

[Crispy123]

...and?

I cant read the thread FOR you but basically it means...

Crispy wins again!

Crispy wins again!

Crispy wins again!

[StanUpshaw]

I cant read the thread FOR you but basically it means...

Crispy wins again!

Crispy wins again!

Crispy wins again!

http://i.imgur.com/4SAIe.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I cant read the thread FOR you but basically it means...

Crispy wins again!

Crispy wins again!

Crispy wins again!

Here's your prize


http://api.ning.com/files/nhH5fyVImHsCgmH52JKUVmZckfOszLYQDpk21s8OQhOydrTbqR M3dTO4lNoXuWNh/BillCosbyPuddingPop.jpg

[Crispy123]

Here's your prize


http://api.ning.com/files/nhH5fyVImHsCgmH52JKUVmZckfOszLYQDpk21s8OQhOydrTbqR M3dTO4lNoXuWNh/BillCosbyPuddingPop.jpg

I agree with Bill here. Luckily I have some in my freezer at this very moment.

On a side note, I have to wonder if you actually get the reference.

[Crispy123]

US Secret Service agents sent home from Obama duty over misconduct allegations (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/us-secret-agents-sent-home-obama-duty-over-024553474.html)

Best story ever.

The Associated Press, citing an anonymous tip, reported that the allegations involved prostitutes in Cartagena, the city hosting the gathering. The AP also said 12 agents were involved. The Washington Post cited the president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association, Jon Adler, as saying that the allegations were tied to at least one agent being involved with prostitutes in Cartagena.

They werent so secretly servicing them Columbian ho's

[hanso]

Read my edit

Yea like Obama is such a peace president. Starting wars without congressional consent and using a bitch excuse like we were leading from behind and it was a NATO mission

Al Qaeda is now flying its flag in Libya. Those rebels ended up being Jihadists but when its your man in office Lets bomb those brown people.

Afghanistan is going great under his leadership

You have to stop having it both ways. When the Arab Spring was going off you were lock step with John McInsane that we needed to have boots on the ground ASAP.

BTW
The last time Congress formally declared war was World War II in 1941.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You have to stop having it both ways. When the Arab Spring was going off you were lock step with John McInsane that we needed to have boots on the ground ASAP.

BTW
The last time Congress formally declared war was World War II in 1941.

I was skeptical of the entire Arab Spring movement.

I never wanted boots on the ground in Libya. Me agreeing with the maverick? Yea right. Hell I didnt want our planes bombing Libya.

We should go back to having congress declare wars. The war powers act should be repealed.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

US Secret Service agents sent home from Obama duty over misconduct allegations (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/us-secret-agents-sent-home-obama-duty-over-024553474.html)

Best story ever.



They werent so secretly servicing them Columbian ho's

The only thing that would top that is if Obama was caught doing lines of coke off a hookers ass

[spoon]

The only thing that would top that is if Obama was caught doing lines of coke off a hookers ass

would it?


bc he has nothing to do with it, but let's tie him in right....somehow, it must be done.

i would think these two things are different to RIDICULOUS levels, but hey, why argue with a wall?

[PapaBear]

They weren't even part of his personal protection team.

[spoon]

enough with your ACTUAL facts pb, more with the WF hypothetical Obama gotchas!

[spoon]

a janitor once got fired for stealing at the pentagon, the only bigger news would be if Obama had been stealing from the white house!

[hanso]

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Ronald Reagan a ‘wild-eyed, socialist, tax-hiking class warrior’

[hanso]

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Chris Hayes Explains Why Mitt Romney Will Not Govern as a Moderate if Elected President

[TripleSkeet]

See WF? And you were worried. You must be clicking your heels right now....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/net-migration-mexico-dips-zero-143325289.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

See WF? And you were worried. You must be clicking your heels right now....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/net-migration-mexico-dips-zero-143325289.html

That still doesnt make the picture look rosy since there are still millions of them here.

I havent seen numbers go down sharply at all. Port Chester, a town across the border in NY still looks like a Central American barrio

[TripleSkeet]

That still doesnt make the picture look rosy since there are still millions of them here.

I havent seen numbers go down sharply at all. Port Chester, a town across the border in NY still looks like a Central American barrio

Youve just got to start hanging in better neighborhoods.

[hanso]

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Obama slow jams the news with Jimmy Fallon.

[hanso]

CISPA Passes House Despite Opposition

Despite strong opposition from the White House, digital privacy groups and most Democrats, the controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (PDF) passed the House

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/04/cispa-passes-house-despite-opposition.ars

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The roots should have played this when Obama was on Fallons show


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[hanso]

Connecticut passes medical marijuana bill

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/05/connecticut-passes-medical-marijuana-bill/

Why WF might not be on RFN tonight. WF see the (D) by your Gov.'s name? That's why your state can have good stuff.

[A.J.]

Well, I know some family members and friends from my youth who are happy about this.

[spoon]

pretty damn solid speech at VCU over the weekend to officially launch 2012 election

[Adolf]

he plays basketball, drinks beer, smokes, sings soul music, his wife shops at target, he plays with water guns, dances with ellen, his secret security guys fuck prostitutes, he bullshitted everyone into hiring him, he's always on vacation, nothing's changed, everything is worse...... i like him better than bush jr, but........ ha ha ha

i hope an obama sex tape with multiple old men gets out. and then he survives a suicide attempt only to be ridiculed......



i want him in again for my own personal inevitable financial gain though :shhhrug: fuck america

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Same old Obama. Bitching about what he inherited. He didnt inherit anything. He asked for the job.


From hope and change its now we need more time. He's bitter, tired and does not have the same appeal he had 4 years ago.


That VCU speech showed a worn out Obama. All the dropping of the last letters of a word, all the sounding of a wanna be preacher is gone.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://media.cleveland.com/open_impact/photo/president-obama-columbus-2jpg-37d3915e8eccc150.jpg



Are they there for a speech or do they wanna fuck him? Maybe they heard there is free contraception there Those creepy stares need to be mocked, Its like they are baby birds waiting for a worm from mama bird. Who knows, maybe one of them was his made up girlfriend.

[spoon]

great speech and if you actually listened it made perfect sense

nobody is saying he's perfect, it's impossible, but he was/is the lesser of evils my friend

your bind hate kills your ability to see anything

you always claim he's done nothing, is not anything different, so tell me WHY you want Mitt over Obama?

It's amazing how bad the right claims his policies are and how they cripple everything good and holy, yet in the next sentence they say he's done nothing, just continued W's issues and was a complete waste of time. I guess it's say anything to get in, but it's complete bs.

[StanUpshaw]

Speeches sure are great for making you feel all warm inside.

[spoon]

yes, the material was just from out of left field and had nothing to do with what he's done, plans to do or is trying to do

how crazy to take into account the words our candidates ... yet then again, with guys like Newt, McCain, Palin, W and now Mitt, paying attention to content and their words is the last thing the right would want.

point made

[StanUpshaw]

yes, the material was just from out of left field and had nothing to do with what he's done, plans to do or is trying to do


I didn't actually watch it, but if history is any judge...

[spoon]

I didn't actually watch it, but if history is any judge...

history? such as?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

great speech and if you actually listened it made perfect sense

nobody is saying he's perfect, it's impossible, but he was/is the lesser of evils my friend

your bind hate kills your ability to see anything

you always claim he's done nothing, is not anything different, so tell me WHY you want Mitt over Obama?

It's amazing how bad the right claims his policies are and how they cripple everything good and holy, yet in the next sentence they say he's done nothing, just continued W's issues and was a complete waste of time. I guess it's say anything to get in, but it's complete bs.


I saw clips of the speech and it was not inspiring. Hes lost his swagger. You just said hes not perfect but he made perfect sense? Which is it?

Also you must be thinking theres a fake WF. When have I ever backed Romney when I posted many times that hes just another big govt republican. He hasnt advocated for killing the TSA or repealing the NDAA or Patriot act. He is probably planning the next war as we speak. Gotta bomb them Persians ya know

Also i never said Obama didnt do anything. He did too much and things arent better. Obamacare, failed stimulus, racked up 5 trillion in debt. Backed an Arab spring in which he knew nothing about. Got us involved in a civil war in Libya without a declaration of war or at least using the warpowers act. Violated federal bankruptcy laws. Sues states for enforcing laws, selling assault weapons to drug cartels to push gun control. Gives taxpayer loans to companies which have management as bundlers for him. Signs the NDAA and patriot act extension.

The Marlins and Angels also got a lot of shit done during the offseason spending hundreds of millions of dollars and look at those teams.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Was Julia in attendance for his campaign start?

[spoon]

I saw clips of the speech and it was not inspiring. Hes lost his swagger. You just said hes not perfect but he made perfect sense? Which is it?




That's just fucking stupid and you know it. You can't say you're imperfect yet make perfect sense? Ooof. This is just one example of what makes you a joke.

There was a discussion and you turned it into bad jokes and semantics once again.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's just fucking stupid and you know it. You can't say your imperfect yet make perfect sense? Ooof. This is just one example of what makes you a joke.

There was a discussion and you turned it into bad jokes and semantics once again.

Obama wants to move forward and is still bringing up 2008, crying about the job he applied for. That was the crux of his speech. Also bringing up that he needs more time for change.
3.5 years isnt enough? GDP is about 2.5% Welcome to Obamas America , Mediocrity


I commented to your post about Obama getting things done and how I am not a Romney supporter.

[spoon]

Also you must be thinking theres a fake WF. When have I ever backed Romney when I posted many times that hes just another big govt republican. He hasnt advocated for killing the TSA or repealing the NDAA or Patriot act. He is probably planning the next war as we speak. Gotta bomb them Persians ya know

Also i never said Obama didnt do anything. He did too much and things arent better. Obamacare, failed stimulus, racked up 5 trillion in debt. Backed an Arab spring in which he knew nothing about. Got us involved in a civil war in Libya without a declaration of war or at least using the warpowers act. Violated federal bankruptcy laws. Sues states for enforcing laws, selling assault weapons to drug cartels to push gun control. Gives taxpayer loans to companies which have management as bundlers for him. Signs the NDAA and patriot act extension.

The Marlins and Angels also got a lot of shit done during the offseason spending hundreds of millions of dollars and look at those teams.

First off, your analogy is so off it's comical. The ONLY thing I can agree with in the above is teh Patriot Act/NDAA bullshit and it needs to go. The health care bill (NOT obamacare you ass) is again not perfect, but a good start in so many areas.

Failed stimulus? How so? I guess we're in that depression right now and nothing worked right? Again not perfect but the better direction compared to what may have been done on the other side.

Your debt point, completely laughable. Arab spring and Lybia comments, tripe best describes it and political bs. You act like you are anything but the town crier for the Fox News/right, but it's the only shit you spout off on. I hardly, if ever hear a thought from you I don't hear daily on either Fox or 770am. I just don't get how you fight that image yet live it daily. I've seen independent conservative thinkers, you though are not even close.

[spoon]

Obama wants to move forward and is still bringing up 2008, crying about the job he applied for. That was the crux of his speech. Also bringing up that he needs more time for change.
3.5 years isnt enough? GDP is about 2.5% Welcome to Obamas America , Mediocrity


I commented to your post about Obama getting things done and how I am not a Romney supporter.

who are you going to vote for ... thanks for playing

[WRESTLINGFAN]

First off, your analogy is so off it's comical. The ONLY thing I can agree with in the above is teh Patriot Act/NDAA bullshit and it needs to go. The health care bill (NOT obamacare you ass) is again not perfect, but a good start in so many areas.

Failed stimulus? How so? I guess we're in that depression right now and nothing worked right? Again not perfect but the better direction compared to what may have been done on the other side.

Your debt point, completely laughable. Arab spring and Lybia comments, tripe best describes it and political bs. You act like you are anything but the town crier for the Fox News/right, but it's the only shit you spout off on. I hardly, if ever hear a thought from you I don't hear daily on either Fox or 770am. I just don't get how you fight that image yet live it daily. I've seen independent conservative thinkers, you though are not even close.

The administration is now touting it as Obamacare. Yes, failed stimulus. Remember the administration saying that the unemployment wouldnt go past 8% if it was passed. Do you think we would be in a depression? More fearmongering and scare tactics. Its at 8.1% because more people are giving up. Borrowing over 800 billion dollars over a trillion with interest and this is the best you got? Whats wrong pointing out that Obama looked gullible witht he whole Arab Spring and Libya scenarios? But hell hes Obama he doesnt have to follow the constitution. Downplaying fast and furious like its a non issue. What is your obsession with Fox? Why does it bother you when there is someone with an opposing view and doesnt carry water for the nominee


I see it now. Support Obama. Hes not the other guy,

[WRESTLINGFAN]

who are you going to vote for ... thanks for playing

Gary Johnson

[spoon]

The administration is now touting it as Obamacare. Yes, failed stimulus. Remember the administration saying that the unemployment wouldnt go past 8% if it was passed. Do you think we would be in a depression? More fearmongering and scare tactics. Its at 8.1% because more people are giving up. Borrowing over 800 billion dollars over a trillion with interest and this is the best you got? Whats wrong pointing out that Obama looked gullible witht he whole Arab Spring and Libya scenarios? But hell hes Obama he doesnt have to follow the constitution. Downplaying fast and furious like its a non issue. What is your obsession with Fox? Why does it bother you when there is someone with an opposing view and doesnt carry water for the nominee

Again you logic is completely flawed in so many areas. I take issue with you claiming not to be in league with everything that is in line with Fox, a channel mind you that claims to be unbiased. It clearly isn't, just as MSNBC isn't I get that. Both make a mockery of the news, and their impact on both sides of the fence is not a good thing in the end with our overall discussion/dialogue moving forward.

Now I'm fear mongering? Simply bc I think it would have gone MUCH worse if we did not CONTINUE the stimulus that happened under W first? Bc it's just my opinion and not some attempt to scare anyone. You twist it all and make fantasy of any debate to have a point. It's my take on what would have been, and if the stimulus wasn't cut overall, I bet unemployment wouldn't have gone over 8%. And for those no longer looking bs, it's always been the case. It happened the same under Clinton, Bush Sr. and W. It's not some new trick the left is using to twist numbers, it's always been the case. Now it's not your guy so go at it all you want I guess. It's just another comical take in the end to look at it now, but not in the past. The guns in Mexico is a non-issue overall, sorry to break that to you...but it isn't. Keep trying.

[spoon]

Gary Johnson

of course

:flush:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Again you logic is completely flawed in so many areas. I take issue with you claiming not to be in league with everything that is in line with Fox, a channel mind you that claims to be unbiased. It clearly isn't, just as MSNBC isn't I get that. Both make a mockery of the news, and their impact on both sides of the fence is not a good thing in the end with our overall discussion/dialogue moving forward.

Now I'm fear mongering? Simply bc I think it would have gone MUCH worse if we did not CONTINUE the stimulus that happened under W first? Bc it's just my opinion and not some attempt to scare anyone. You twist it all and make fantasy of any debate to have a point. It's my take on what would have been, and if the stimulus wasn't cut overall, I bet unemployment wouldn't have gone over 8%. And for those no longer looking bs, it's always been the case. It happened the same under Clinton, Bush Sr. and W. It's not some new trick the left is using to twist numbers, it's always been the case. Now it's not your guy so go at it all you want I guess. It's just another comical take in the end to look at it now, but not in the past. The guns in Mexico is a non-issue overall, sorry to break that to you...but it isn't. Keep trying.

I dont claim allegiance to fox or WABC. Both outlets cant wait to bomb Tehran. I dont want that to happen. How much more clear can I be. I dont want an obsessive military budget of 700 billion and security everywhere. The bailouts and stimulus started under Bush, shocker but he was no conservative. Obama is just continuing a policy from a big spender


Selling guns to Mexican cartels in a veiled scheme for gun control and botching the operation which resulted in thousands of Mexicans and some Border agents is a non issue? Holder showing no responsibility or accountability shows no concern on your part? How much more partisan can you get

[spoon]

I dont claim allegiance to fox or WABC. Both outlets cant wait to bomb Tehran. I dont want that to happen. How much more clear can I be. I dont want an obsessive military budget of 700 billion and security everywhere. The bailouts and stimulus started under Bush, shocker but he was no conservative. Obama is just continuing a policy from a big spender


Selling guns to Mexican cartels in a veiled scheme for gun control and botching the operation which resulted in thousands of Mexicans and some Border agents is a non issue? Holder showing no responsibility or accountability shows no concern on your part? How much more partisan can you get

It's not partisan WF, it's understanding that some crazy shit goes one on that front and both parties are involved. It's tragic that some have passed in the end, but do I honestly think the same wouldn't have happened without involvement overall? YES. It's not like they don't have their own weapons, they just want, need and use more if they can. Do you honestly think that our guns are the root cause here? Or just involved now as we try to infiltrate the cartels, gangs and bs going on down there around the border. I guess we can get more infiltration via selling them squishables and dove soap right? Come on man, do you know how many republicans were/are involved here too? It's just an attack site for the right bc they don't like Holder (who I'm no real fan of by the way) and his link to Obama. Pretty much just like Warren, the right will attack/link anything to the left to break something down, cause disruption and hurt their current policy making and actions when not in power. Both sides do it, but the right have a patent on it...not to mention the left usually does it stop rights being taken away like women's health rights and bs redistricting for their voting needs/advantages as two examples. The right does in on health care reform, job bills and anything the country actually needs in an effort to hurt the other side's legacy and effectiveness. Everything is about fucking party and not the US any longer. Sad, pathetic and completely self serving.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's not partisan WF, it's understanding that some crazy shit goes one on that front and both parties are involved. It's tragic that some have passed in the end, but do I honestly think the same wouldn't have happened without involvement overall? YES. It's not like they don't have their own weapons, they just want, need and use more if they can. Do you honestly think that our guns are the root cause here? Or just involved now as we try to infiltrate the cartels, gangs and bs going on down there around the border. I guess we can get more infiltration via selling them squishables and dove soap right? Come on man, do you know how many republicans were/are involved here too? It's just an attack site for the right bc they don't like Holder (who I'm no real fan of by the way) and his link to Obama. Pretty much just like Warren, the right will attack/link anything to the left to break something down, cause disruption and hurt their current policy making and actions when not in power. Both sides do it, but the right have a patent on it.

I agree with you that both parties have more than their share of corruption. At the heart of the election its going to be the economy at the focal point. However, the President said as a candidate that there would be accountability and responsibility. Now F&F wont make or break the election but it does point out a very corrupt DoJ. There was corruption with the last administration with the US atty firings but no one lost their lives. Weapons didnt go unaccounted for.


Warren tried to use a little sliver of Indian blood to advance herself and dug herself deeper with excuses of high cheek bones to cover for herself. If I lived in MA. That wouldnt be the dealbreaker, but it does raise questions about her character

[WRESTLINGFAN]

of course

:flush:

I would have gotten fodder if I said I was voting for Mitt.


I know Johnson has no chance, especially here in CT, Obama will win here by at least 15 points. The thing is that I am not going to take the bait that Romney is a conservative and wants to reduce gov't. He doesn't

[StanUpshaw]

of course

:flush:

Explain yourself.

[hanso]

great speech and if you actually listened it made perfect sense

nobody is saying he's perfect, it's impossible, but he was/is the lesser of evils my friend

your bind hate kills your ability to see anything

you always claim he's done nothing, is not anything different, so tell me WHY you want Mitt over Obama?

It's amazing how bad the right claims his policies are and how they cripple everything good and holy, yet in the next sentence they say he's done nothing, just continued W's issues and was a complete waste of time. I guess it's say anything to get in, but it's complete bs.

Yeah the right are making the 'forward' into 'backwards' like the TV ad. If that were the case we would be losing someting on the lines of over 750k jobs a month. (laughable)

[spoon]

Explain yourself.

of course...meaning as expected

icon to symbolize his vote's effectiveness

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama has some competition in West Virginia


http://news.yahoo.com/federal-prisoner-earns-votes-against-obama-west-virginia-125724508.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Guess Obama has finally evolved. He now states that he supports gay marriage.


Non issue, hes not going to lose support from minorities who are not in favor of the gays getting hitched.

I just dont want this as a national issue, leave it to states.

[pennington]

Obama has some competition in West Virginia


http://news.yahoo.com/federal-prisoner-earns-votes-against-obama-west-virginia-125724508.html

I'll bet his economic policies make more sense than what we're currently doing.

http://www.uncoveredpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/judd.jpg

[A.J.]

I'll bet his economic policies make more sense than what we're currently doing.

http://www.uncoveredpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/judd.jpg

Any man with a mullet has to be sensible.

[styckx]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/05/09/obama-reverses-position-same-sex-marriage

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/More%20Junk%202/10832345.png

[TripleSkeet]

Unbelievable, isnt it?

[styckx]

I expecting raging, but that was LOL.. They did just change it though. Apparently foxnews has no idea how the internet works, those screencaps of the original are everywhere.

[booster11373]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/05/09/obama-reverses-position-same-sex-marriage

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/More%20Junk%202/10832345.png

This wasnt photo shopped?

[styckx]

This wasnt photo shopped?

Nope, that was the headline they were running with for about 90 minutes.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/536803_448826101813515_205344452828349_100677587_2 92335992_n.jpg

And the NYP is implying Obama came out of the closet

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/More%20Junk%202/900c8bb8.jpg

[booster11373]

FOX news -

We rattle the cage of the retards!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I dont do this often but Kudos to the president for saying that this is a states rights issue.

:thumbup::thumbup:

[HBox]

http://cdn.head-fi.org/2/2c/2cda10c2_slow-clap.gif

[spoon]

Guess Obama has finally evolved. He now states that he supports gay marriage.


Non issue, hes not going to lose support from minorities who are not in favor of the gays getting hitched.

I just dont want this as a national issue, leave it to states.

not a state issue

it's a basic human right...if we left it up to the states to make the call on slavery half of the south would have fucking plantations

[spoon]

I'll bet his economic policies make more sense than what we're currently doing.

http://www.uncoveredpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/judd.jpg

He just looks more West Virginia! I'm actually surprised he lost.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

not a state issue

it's a basic human right...if we left it up to the states to make the call on slavery half of the south would have fucking plantations

Show me where article 1 section 8 does it give the power of marriage to the federal government.


Its a state issue.

Wanna change that. Lead the movement for an amendment

[spoon]

Show me where article 1 section 8 does it give the power of marriage to the federal government.


Its a state issue.

Wanna change that. Lead the movement for an amendment

the right, not power of

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the right, not power of

should the federal government compel churches to perform gay weddings ?

[spoon]

that's stupid, no

[underdog]

that's stupid, no

You're arguing with WF. Careful who you call stupid.

[spoon]

:laugh: + :furious: = :glurps:

[spoon]

yet i wasn't calling him stupid, just his thought process or lack of

[weekapaugjz]

You're arguing with WF. Careful who you call stupid.

:clap:

[styckx]

not a state issue

it's a basic human right...if we left it up to the states to make the call on slavery half of the south would have fucking plantations

^ This

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those of you who believe that this is a federal issue, what would your reaction be if hypothetically a President Santorum got his way on marriage?


Besides at the conclusion of the ceremony, the Priest, Judge, Minister or whoever presides over the ceremony usually says by the powers vested in me by the State of whatever, I now pronounce you man and wife

[spoon]

Those of you who believe that this is a federal issue, what would your reaction be if hypothetically a President Santorum got his way on marriage?


Besides at the conclusion of the ceremony, the Priest, Judge, Minister or whoever presides over the ceremony usually says by the powers vested in me by the State of whatever, I now pronounce you man and wife

so a mistake on a national level isn't a mistake on a state by state level?

and your semantics bs argument based on a fucking phrase is classic. change is to nation or keep it state bc it's part of said nation. let's just get different currencies and more while we're at it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so a mistake on a national level isn't a mistake on a state by state level?

and your semantics bs argument based on a fucking phrase is classic. change is to nation or keep it state bc it's part of said nation. let's just get different currencies and more while we're at it.

There are certain powers left to the states per the 10th amendment.

Again if you feel that it should be a federal issue, start a movement to get an amendment ratified.

How much more clear can I be?

[StanUpshaw]

How can a government-sanctioned legal contrivance be called a "human right"?

Is the forming of an LLC a "human right" as well?

[spoon]

basically those who claim they are protecting "traditional" marriage believe they are better than gay and lesbians, and think they don't deserve to have their love be recognized and honored. I simply don't see it being a state issue, just as a women's right to vote was a national issue, not some state by state choice based on it's economy and politics like farm subsidies or speed limits on it's state highways based on different traffic patterns and congestion across borders.

[spoon]

How can a government-sanctioned legal contrivance be called a "human right"?

Is the forming of an LLC a "human right" as well?

you have to see the difference, and if not, there's nothing I can say to sway you

voting rights are a right, and that fits your contrivance ploy

[Recyclerz]

not a state issue

it's a basic human right...if we left it up to the states to make the call on slavery half of the south would have fucking plantations

C'mon you know that statement is bullshit!





It'd be a lot more than 1/2.

[spoon]

There are certain powers left to the states per the 10th amendment.

Again if you feel that it should be a federal issue, start a movement to get an amendment ratified.

How much more clear can I be?

No need, I disagree and myself can't be more clear.

[StanUpshaw]

basically those who claim they are protecting "traditional" marriage believe they are better than gay and lesbians, and think they don't deserve to have their love be recognized and honored. I simply don't see it being a state issue, just as a women's right to vote was a national issue, not some state by state choice based on it's economy and politics like farm subsidies or speed limits on it's state highways based on different traffic patterns and congestion across borders.

Marriage is not a state issue, NOR is it a federal issue. Why do you want some assholes on capitol hill having ANY say in the matter?

Why can't you see that government intrusion is the problem??!!

[spoon]

Marriage is not a state issue, NOR is it a federal issue. Why do you want some assholes on capitol hill having ANY say in the matter?

Why can't you see that government intrusion is the problem??!!

I do and can. It should simply be OUR choice and allowed regardless. I have no problem with that take in any way. Unfortunately, sometimes federal mandates are a necessity to bring some out of the fucking caves/stone age in terms of social acceptance/social issues. Why do you think all government involvement must be labeled intrusion? Nothing is perfect, but it's clearly the main way to end this debate and move on...at least in a Roe v Wade type fashion at least. As long as religious fundamentalists (forever I know) and homophobia exists, the issue will continue to pollute the real issues that need to be dealt with.

[StanUpshaw]

you have to see the difference, and if not, there's nothing I can say to sway you

Both are a nothing more than a cluster of privileges and regulations that, through the authority of governmental decree, are bestowed on a subset of the population in a manner that simple free association would not allow.


voting rights are a right, and that fits your contrivance ploy
Chicken and egg situation here. Did government create voting, or did voting create government? But yeah, I deny that voting is a "human right" (if that term has any meaning whatsoever), simply because democracy is not the only means of societal arrangement (it's really a pretty shitty one). Voting is a legal right, and absolutely I agree that there should be equality under the law.

But to call either thing a "human right" is a butchery of the philosophy of liberty.

[spoon]

Both are a nothing more than a cluster of privileges and regulations that, through the authority of governmental decree, are bestowed on a subset of the population in a manner that simple free association would not allow.



Chicken and egg situation here. Did government create voting, or did voting create government? But yeah, I deny that voting is a "human right" (if that term has any meaning whatsoever), simply because democracy is not the only means of societal arrangement (it's really a pretty shitty one). Voting is a legal right, and absolutely I agree that there should be equality under the law.

But to call either thing a "human right" is a butchery of the philosophy of liberty.

ok, nix human

call them rights

i really don't care how you chalk it up, but to deny is taking something away based on some form of orientation and it's simply not right

[StanUpshaw]

ok, nix human

call them rights

i really don't care how you chalk it up, but to deny is taking something away based on some form of orientation and it's simply not right

Then I BEG YOU, stop butting heads with the "other side" and instead focus your outrage and the system that believes it can dictate such things. The "good guys" might win this round, but what about in 4 years, or in 20? Stop fighting this absurd battle with zealots, and work to dismantle the framework that allows them to impress their views on the rest of us.

[hanso]

basically those who claim they are protecting "traditional" marriage believe they are better than gay and lesbians, and think they don't deserve to have their love be recognized and honored. I simply don't see it being a state issue, just as a women's right to vote was a national issue, not some state by state choice based on it's economy and politics like farm subsidies or speed limits on it's state highways based on different traffic patterns and congestion across borders.

Have you seen how many states have passed this as law? They just love to pass things redundant.

[spoon]

bc it's simply NOT going to change in our lifetime and to ignore the issues in a bad system only makes it worse and allows those on the "wrong" side in my view to win more often and impose their bs on the masses

i see and get your point, but you simply can't ignore the system currently in place because you don't see eye to eye with it.

[StanUpshaw]

Sickening.

[hanso]

There are certain powers left to the states per the 10th amendment.

Again if you feel that it should be a federal issue, start a movement to get an amendment ratified.

How much more clear can I be?

This is a hypocritical statement, in that it is an end around ploy by the knuckle dragging conservative/ fundamental/ libertarian sect.

How much more clear can I be?

[TripleSkeet]

I just wish I could fine ONE PERSON that is against gay marriage that could show me how it would affect their lives AT ALL.

[A.J.]

I just wish I could fine ONE PERSON that is against gay marriage that could show me how it would affect their lives AT ALL.

You should fine them $3.

[Syd]

Why can't you see that government intrusion is the problem??!!

Because small-minded people afraid of their own homosexuality are infringing on the rights of others. In the absence of armed insurrection, the next best course of action is to enable the rights by law.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Typical sleazebag politician, waits for an election year to say he's for gay Marriage.

[A.J.]

The interview with Robin Roberts was a nice touch too. I guess he couldn't get Anderson Cooper.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This endorsement by Obama is really gonna piss off his Muslim bretheren

[pennington]

Typical sleazebag politician, waits for an election year to say he's for gay Marriage.

Are you suggesting he came up with this enlightened revelation a few short months before an election just to distract people from talking about the economy? Shocking sir.

They're just throwing whatever they can against the wall seeing what will stick. I wonder what they're holding back for after Labor Day.

Clearly, to me, this is something that should be legalized. I'm not a lawyer but I think this has to be done on the State level. Lawyers' groups must be thrilled; a whole new pool of divorce cases.

[StanUpshaw]

Because small-minded people afraid of their own homosexuality are infringing on the rights of others. In the absence of armed insurrection, the next best course of action is to enable the rights by law.

Why am I not surprised your first instinct is just to kill the people who disagree with you?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/528569_331372950266511_133109130092895_803221_9449 03378_n.jpg

[Snacks]

Typical sleazebag politician, waits for an election year to say he's for gay Marriage.

if he was a real sleazebag (as you called him) he wouldn't have said it now he would say it after he gets his 2nd term. This might actually hurt him with the red states and religious people who are borderline on voting for him. Im happy he said it.

[A.J.]

if he was a real sleazebag (as you called him) he wouldn't have said it now he would say it after he gets his 2nd term. This might actually hurt him with the red states and religious people who are borderline on voting for him. Im happy he said it.

He was already hurt in the red states.

[Snacks]

He was already hurt in the red states.

true but states like ohio and florida could now go against him. those 2 states are always in play for both parties and now can be lost.

[StanUpshaw]

He's a phony fucking politician (but I repeat myself). He simply changes his rhetoric to reflect poll results.

http://i.imgur.com/PBWsl.png

http://i.imgur.com/gj7eE.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can this President ever be honest? He stated that he supports gay marriage due to his daughters having friends who have gay parents

Bullshit!!


This was all calculated from Biden making his comments on MTP, Then there was the vote in NC, and tonight hes going to Hollywood for a fundraiser. Lots of gay money to raise at Clooneys pad

[TripleSkeet]

Can this President ever be honest? He stated that he supports gay marriage due to his daughters having friends who have gay parents

Bullshit!!


This was all calculated from Biden making his comments on MTP, Then there was the vote in NC, and tonight hes going to Hollywood for a fundraiser. Lots of gay money to raise at Clooneys pad

So is that what you expected him to say?

[keithy_19]

You should fine them $3.

This was very funny and no one seemed to enjoy it. Bravo.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So is that what you expected him to say?

As a candidate he said he would be honest with us. I knew that was a sham anyways.

Tonight he will be at a 40k a plate dinner with the 1% who complain that their taxes arent high enough but yet many have their state of residence in Montana, Idaho and other big Sky states. Some might be like Springsteen and BonJovi who pay next to nothing in property taxes because they claim their land is a farm.

[TripleSkeet]

This was very funny and no one seemed to enjoy it. Bravo.

I didnt get it.

*Edit I get it now. Read it twice and missed the spelling error both times.

[TripleSkeet]

As a candidate he said he would be honest with us. I knew that was a sham anyways.

Tonight he will be at a 40k a plate dinner with the 1% who complain that their taxes arent high enough but yet many have their state of residence in Montana, Idaho and other big Sky states. Some might be like Springsteen and BonJovi who pay next to nothing in property taxes because they claim their land is a farm.

Maybe he saw what happened to Cole Hamels when he was honest and was like "Fuck that!"

[A.J.]

Maybe he saw what happened to Cole Hamels when he was honest and was like "Fuck that!"

Suspend Obama for 5 days.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

40K Just to hang with the pretty people.


Oh yes, Obama connects with everyday people.


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-jokes-clooney-stars-gala-fundraiser-050818816.html

[A.J.]

Well at least they weren't despicable CEO and tycoons like the GOP hangs with. These are compassionate millionaires and billionaires.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Environmentally conscious too, They set a fine example of getting there via private jet, SUV Motorcade and partying in a 10k sq ft mansion with rolling landscapes

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well at least they weren't despicable CEO and tycoons like the GOP hangs with. These are compassionate millionaires and billionaires.

Compassionate like Jeff Immelt?

[Crispy123]

bc it's simply NOT going to change in our lifetime and to ignore the issues in a bad system only makes it worse and allows those on the "wrong" side in my view to win more often and impose their bs on the masses

i see and get your point, but you simply can't ignore the system currently in place because you don't see eye to eye with it.

I hope you don't expect these views to be understood in this thread. Your first mistake is to present a sane argument. its not for ideologues.

[StanUpshaw]

Must. Not. Disrupt. Status quo.

[Crispy123]

don't worry, you haven't.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Idealogue thy name is



http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001472709/4125328580_019_barack_obama__300x300_xlarge.jpeg

[Crispy123]

trolling troll only knows trolling (and fox news)

[StanUpshaw]

Idealogue thy name is



http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001472709/4125328580_019_barack_obama__300x300_xlarge.jpeg

That makes no sense.

Ideologues have ideological integrity.

[Crispy123]

ha! lack of integrity!!! This coming from the master of argument evasion. bravo!!!

[StanUpshaw]

ha! lack of integrity!!! This coming from the master of argument evasion. bravo!!!

It's funny cuz it's what I said about you that you say about me that I say about you.

[Crispy123]

did i hit a nerve? I still love ya stanny girl. :wub:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not to defend Mitt, he made a shitty excuse but its amazing the timing that the WaPo came out with a story of Mitt hazing someone in HS who might have been gay.


Meanwhile not a peep of Obamas war on girls when he was bullying one and admitted it in his book. Then again maybe it was a made up composite one

[Crispy123]

Not to defend Mitt, he made a shitty excuse but its amazing the timing that the WaPo came out with a story of Mitt hazing someone in HS who might have been gay.


Meanwhile not a peep of Obamas war on girls when he was bullying one and admitted it in his book. Then again maybe it was a made up composite one

We get it, Fox news took a long time to warm up to Mitt. No need for YOU to explain.

Heres a question, do you ever actually read the internet? Or you too busy watching the fn friends to care what thread you are posting in???

[StanUpshaw]

did i hit a nerve? I still love ya stanny girl. :wub:

You just proved yet again that instead of battling my arguments, all you can do is attack me personally.




EDIT: And instead of battling WF's arguments, all you can do is scream "Fox News."

[Crispy123]

You just proved yet again that instead of battling my arguments, all you can do is attack me personally.

what argument? make one. ever.

edit: fox news IS wf's whole argument. if he ever had anything different he would get a different response....just like you.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

what argument? make one. ever.

edit: fox news IS wf's whole argument. if he ever had anything different he would get a different response....just like you.

You keep bringing up Fox. I havent mentioned them. Typical Obama supporter Fox news Fox News Fox news. Get a new schtick

[Crispy123]

Get a new schtick

Thats great advice. too bad you don't actually READ any of these threads.

Im guessing youre too busy watching Shep Smith replays to find ways of slamming him today.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thats great advice. to bad you don't actually READ any of these threads.

Im guessing youre too busy watching Shep Smith replays to find ways of slamming him today.

Yes I do and many of them are by you saying Fox

[Crispy123]

jeeze....you ever wonder why that might be???

or do you chalk it up to another result of the librul media bias???

[WRESTLINGFAN]

JPM Loses 2 billion from one of their portfolios


Or what Obama calls them... AMATEURS

[Bob Impact]

what argument? make one. ever.

edit: fox news IS wf's whole argument. if he ever had anything different he would get a different response....just like you.

His argument was that Obama is a flip-flopper with not ideological integrity as evidenced by the fact that his stance on gay marriage conveniently seems to follow public opinion on it, based on the charts that he posted a page back. Now you go.

[Crispy123]

His argument was that Obama is a flip-flopper with not ideological integrity as evidenced by the fact that his stance on gay marriage conveniently seems to follow public opinion on it, based on the charts that he posted a page back. Now you go.

whose argument, Stans? Cuz I was just using hyperbole to annoy him. If its WF, I refuse to debate obvious trolling.

My point is that there is a thread created to discuss what you don't like about President Obama and his policies. This is not that thread.

And I don't necessarily think that a President whose views can evolve to accommodate popular public opinion is a bad thing.