The 2012 Republican Presidential Debates [Archive]

hanso

09-10-2011, 01:45 PM

What I took from it.

> Every Gov. running had the highest job creation.
> <s> Sen.</s>Congressman Paul came off looking like a nut.
(TY booster11373)

booster11373

09-10-2011, 01:49 PM

What I took from it.

> Every Gov. running had the highest job creation.
> Sen. Paul came off looking like a nut.

Dont give Dr nutjob a promotion he only served in the house

hanso

09-10-2011, 01:56 PM

Opps, Congressman Paul. I get those mixed up.

Just put him in google news and "Call him a nut‎ " came up first.

Herman Cain has a plan for everything. They are all written on the backs of food placemats.

furie

09-10-2011, 02:54 PM

http://meminenow.info/top-picks/1%20(14).jpg

KnoxHarrington

09-10-2011, 03:35 PM

It's hilarious that the Republican Party thinks Rick Perry is electable in any sense. If his performance in a debate with President Obama is like that, he's gonna get shredded.

underdog

09-10-2011, 04:03 PM

It's hilarious that the Republican Party thinks Rick Perry is electable in any sense. If his performance in a debate with President Obama is like that, he's gonna get shredded.

yeah, you should really watch Thursday's Daily Show.

hanso

09-10-2011, 05:18 PM

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hanso

09-10-2011, 07:28 PM

http://i.imgur.com/3UBWU.jpg

keithy_19

09-10-2011, 09:57 PM

The debate was basically Romney and Perry and I did some of this :wallbash:

WRESTLINGFAN

09-11-2011, 05:52 AM

Can anyone caption this?

http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/files/2011/09/rick-perry-vs-ron-paul.jpg

hanso

09-11-2011, 07:17 AM

Ha! I was going to put that pic in the cap. thread.

WRESTLINGFAN

09-11-2011, 09:51 AM

My interpretation of that photo is that Perry is telling Paul. Listen up old man, when Im president we are going to attack Iran and you cant stop me.

WRESTLINGFAN

09-12-2011, 03:52 PM

Theres another debate tonight sponsored by one of the teabagger groups. Theres gonna be a lot of these so maybe there should be one thread for GOP debates? Just a suggestion

Syd

09-12-2011, 04:27 PM

here, this will summarize every debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZrMNPhQAc

WRESTLINGFAN

09-13-2011, 06:54 AM

Perry is awful. He sucks at debates, I think hes being hyped up so that he can win the Primaries and become the nominee. Obama would wipe the floor with him in a debate.

Dude!

09-13-2011, 07:19 AM

Perry is awful. He sucks at debates, I think hes being hyped up so that he can win the Primaries and become the nominee. Obama would wipe the floor with him in a debate.

naw, as people see him in action
his star will dim
no way he will be the nominee

republicans are just looking
for someone new and Perry is
the flavor of the day

remember that Trump soared
into the lead when he said he'd run
but as people listened to him,
he sank to zero

Perry will face a similar decline

A.J.

09-13-2011, 08:14 AM

The only one there making sense was Reagan.

WRESTLINGFAN

09-13-2011, 09:18 AM

Perry is another George Bush. Let the illegals come in, give them freebies like in state tuition. I saw how the audience was booing him regarding his weak immigration policy

Perry is no fiscal conservative at all, hes another big gov't republican like the last governor from Texas was who became POTUS

Not one of them brought up The Obama administrations huge fuckup on the fast and the furious gunrunner program.

WRESTLINGFAN

09-13-2011, 03:56 PM

Good to see Perry being called out on mandatory HPV shots

cougarjake13

09-13-2011, 06:57 PM

no matter who wins theyre all shit and we lose

StanUpshaw

09-13-2011, 07:24 PM

Elect Watson.

I've never been more serious about anything in my life.

A.J.

09-14-2011, 04:50 AM

Elect Watson.

That boy got talent.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww53/thatdudekells/Gifs/sexualchocolate.gif?t=1242106736

hanso

10-15-2011, 05:24 PM

hanso

10-16-2011, 04:55 AM

WRESTLINGFAN

10-16-2011, 05:18 AM

Im for repealing the 16th Amendment but not a fan of the triple 9.

Its a regressive tax, Now the fair tax I am for. It doesnt put a tax on basic necessities like groceries etc.

Syd

10-16-2011, 03:13 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/44921014#VpFlash

that's all you need to hear about Herman Cain. He's kind of a moron.

Dude!

10-16-2011, 04:51 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/44921014#VpFlash

that's all you need to hear about Herman Cain. He's kind of a moron.

woo...syd thinks
black = moron

WRESTLINGFAN

10-16-2011, 04:54 PM

woo...syd thinks
black = moron

according to Syd is Obama half a Moron?

Dude!

10-16-2011, 05:19 PM

according to Syd is Obama half a Moron?

technically, yes

but since barry's mom
was a skank hippie
i think Syd can safely call him
a full-blown moron

Syd

10-16-2011, 06:13 PM

woo...syd thinks
black = moron

I don't think Dexter Manley is a moron and he's the blackest person on the planet

StanUpshaw

10-16-2011, 06:16 PM

Wesley Snipes is the blackest person on the planet. FACT.

A.J.

10-17-2011, 03:16 AM

Wesley Snipes is the blackest person on the planet. FACT.

He succeeded Charlie "Darkness" Murphy.

Syd

10-17-2011, 05:36 AM

http://www.liveimagephoto.com/2011/10/herman-cains-999-problem.html

If you have a family of four with an income of just under $50,000, they could end up paying more under the Cain plan. Currently, they are taxed around $3,850 in income tax. Under Cain’s plan, they would be taxed at 9 percent or pay $4,500. That’s $650 more.

Although the family would save almost $4,000 in Social Security taxes, it would have to give up the child tax credit worth the same amount. Furthermore, it would pay an additional national sales tax of 9 percent on everything purchased, including groceries and clothes, which totals about $2,000.

That means under the Cain plan that family could end up paying $2,725 more.

Raise the taxes on the lower/middle lower/middle/middle upper classes so the taxes on the upper/rich can be lower. Makes sense in an economy with very little aggregate demand -- reduce the demand caused by the largest consumer bloc. All because some dude wants to sell pizzas or something at $9.99? I wish Jared from Subway would come along and start pitching a $5 plan

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 05:46 AM

http://www.liveimagephoto.com/2011/10/herman-cains-999-problem.html

Raise the taxes on the lower/middle lower/middle/middle upper classes so the taxes on the upper/rich can be lower. Makes sense in an economy with very little aggregate demand -- reduce the demand caused by the largest consumer bloc. All because some dude wants to sell pizzas or something at $9.99? I wish Jared from Subway would come along and start pitching a $5 plan

Subway does have $5 select foot long wedges

KnoxHarrington

10-17-2011, 07:38 AM

The failure of the "9-9-9" plan, to me, is that it imposes a national sales tax while keeping an income tax. Now, I think plans that attempt to replace income tax with sales tax are crazy anyway, but this is completely nuts. At least in a plan that completely trashed income taxes in favor of a national sales tax, the fact that income taxes are no longer being withheld from your pay could kind of make up for that additional expense. But if you're still getting income tax withheld and you have to pay 9% more sales tax anyway, I don't see how anyone comes out ahead. And remember that Cain's plan makes no exceptions for things like food or vital services, like many state sales taxes do.

And the third "9", the tax on "business income", is so vague that a lot of economists have concluded that it's basically going to end up being a Value Added Tax, tacked onto the price of goods and services before they get to you. In other words, you'll be paying that shit too.

This idiot should stick to making shitty pizza.

Misteriosa

10-17-2011, 07:44 AM

if i understand this 9-9-9 plan correctly, i would have to pay an additional 9% on items on top of the 8.3ish% nys sales tax? because thats a lot of money.

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 07:52 AM

The fact is, there isn't a Republican candidate that can beat Obama. People might not be as warm as they use to be towards him, but there just isn't anyone better who doesn't want to keep the divide between rich and poor growing.

A.J.

10-17-2011, 07:59 AM

The fact is, there isn't a Republican candidate that can beat Obama.

There wasn't in 08 and there won't be in 2012. And I don't see anyone for 2016 either.

Dude!

10-17-2011, 08:03 AM

The fact is, there isn't a Republican candidate that can beat Obama.

you must be smokin' crack
laced with crystal meth

virtually any republican
will beat obama in 2012
and if it is Romney and Rubio
it will be close to a landslide,
like Reagan v. Carter 1980

Syd

10-17-2011, 08:11 AM

And the third "9", the tax on "business income", is so vague that a lot of economists have concluded that it's basically going to end up being a Value Added Tax, tacked onto the price of goods and services before they get to you. In other words, you'll be paying that shit too.

This idiot should stick to making shitty pizza.

That too -- businesses will be paying an additional tax on anything they buy which means that cost will be passed onto the consumer. Your $1 widget that costs $1.05 in taxes will now cost more like $1.30 after all is said and done. The 9-9-9 plan is just a talking point and if it were to actually be the new tax code, we'd all move closer toward the poverty line from it.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 08:25 AM

999

Volts

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/cain-proposes-electrified-border-fence/

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 08:26 AM

you must be smokin' crack
laced with crystal meth

virtually any republican
will beat obama in 2012
and if it is Romney and Rubio
it will be close to a landslide,
like Reagan v. Carter 1980

Mormon.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 08:29 AM

Article 6

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Dude!

10-17-2011, 09:00 AM

Mormon.

do you really think
that matters?

for the tiny percent
for whom it may be an issue
obama's race, policies and religion
are much more of an issue

they will gladly vote for romney
when the choice is obama

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 09:04 AM

do you really think
that matters?

for the tiny percent
for whom it may be an issue
obama's race, policies and religion
are much more of an issue

they will gladly vote for romney
when the choice is obama

Tiny percent? We're a christian nation, remember? They'll never vote in a mormon.

Dude!

10-17-2011, 09:08 AM

Tiny percent? We're a christian nation, remember? They'll never vote in a mormon.

sure they will...
they voted in a moslem

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 09:11 AM

sure they will...
they voted in a moslem

Uh huh. You might as well back a different horse. Romney won't make it.

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underdog

10-17-2011, 09:12 AM

do you really think
that matters?

for the tiny percent
for whom it may be an issue
obama's race, policies and religion
are much more of an issue

they will gladly vote for romney
when the choice is obama

Hard core Christians hate Mormons. They'll just not vote rather than vote for Romney.

Crispy123

10-17-2011, 09:33 AM

Hard core Christians hate Mormons. They'll just not vote rather than vote for Romney.

Mormons ARE Christians.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 09:35 AM

Hard core Christians hate Mormons. They'll just not vote rather than vote for Romney.

Kennedy was a Catholic but he won the Presidency even with fears from some that he would take orders from Rome

Some protestants think as Catholics as non christians especially with the worshipping of saints

StanUpshaw

10-17-2011, 09:37 AM

The 2010 elections were a slaughter. Save the bin Laden deal, Obama has been buried in shit since then - he's done for.

underdog

10-17-2011, 09:43 AM

Mormons ARE Christians.

I agree. Apparently Christians think they are different from one another.

StanUpshaw

10-17-2011, 09:45 AM

Mormons are Christians in the same way that Christians are Jews.

Crispy123

10-17-2011, 09:49 AM

Mormons are Christians in the same way that Christians are Jews.

poor analogy HankWilliamshaw.

Mormons are like Christians and unlike Jews in that they both believe Jesus was the Son of God. What!?

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 09:50 AM

I agree. Apparently Christians think they are different from one another.

They are. Look at the different denominations. Catholic, Eastern Orthodox including Russian Greek to name a few, Many different protestant sects as well

StanUpshaw

10-17-2011, 09:58 AM

poor analogy HankWilliamshaw.

Mormons are like Christians and unlike Jews in that they both believe Jesus was the Son of God. What!?

Christianity branched from Judaism and the two hold different, incompatible doctrines.

Mormonism branched from Christianity and the two hold different, incompatible doctrines.

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 10:01 AM

Mormons are just too weird to be accepted on a mass scale of our population.

Cain continues to belittle women and immigrants and has even admitted his 999 plan would hit the middle class hard. That will kill his chances in the end.

The guys who are at the bottom of the list (except Bachmann) look better than the frontrunners, but that's because the Republicans are pandering to their hard core base. It'll be their undoing.

Dude!

10-17-2011, 10:01 AM

Christianity branched from Judaism and the two hold different, incompatible doctrines.

Mormonism branched from Christianity and the two hold different, incompatible doctrines.

dude, lutheranism branched from Christianity
Methodism branched from Christianity
now even the Episcopolians have branched
and accept gay cocksuckers as priests
(wait...so do the Catholics)

they are all versions of Christianity

as long as you have Jesus, your a Christian

"Christian" comes from the word "Chist" duh

underdog

10-17-2011, 10:05 AM

They are. Look at the different denominations. Catholic, Eastern Orthodox including Russian Greek to name a few, Many different protestant sects as well

just because they call themselves different things doesn't mean they're any different to an outside observer.

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 10:07 AM

StanUpshaw

10-17-2011, 10:15 AM

dude, lutheranism branched from Christianity
Methodism branched from Christianity
now even the Episcopolians have branched
and accept gay cocksuckers as priests
(wait...so do the Catholics)

they are all versions of Christianity

as long as you have Jesus, your a Christian

"Christian" comes from the word "Chist" duh

But pretty much the biggest difference in doctrine among all of those is whether or not Mary is king shit. Otherwise, the differences are mostly procedural.

Mormonism adds an entire new layer of doctrine, comparable to the layer that the followers of Jesus added to Judaism.

KnoxHarrington

10-17-2011, 10:33 AM

But pretty much the biggest difference in doctrine among all of those is whether or not Mary is king shit. Otherwise, the differences are mostly procedural.

Mormonism adds an entire new layer of doctrine, comparable to the layer that the followers of Jesus added to Judaism.

Yeah, that whole thing of adding another book to the Bible offends a lot of fundamentalists, particularly those who believe that the Bible should be taken literally. I mean, if the Bible is perfect and without error already, why suddenly tack a whole other book onto it.

My feeling is most of them will hold their nose and vote for Romney if it comes to that, because he's a little more like them than Obama (guess why), but it would be a very un-motivated base. The passion and fervor of the Tea Party will be lost if the candidate is Romney.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 10:34 AM

Obama was elected with ties to a batshit crazy preacher. The Mormon factor wont be a big factor for Romney.

If he is elected, Booze and Caffeine wont be outlawed so dont worry.

KnoxHarrington

10-17-2011, 10:40 AM

Obama was elected with ties to a batshit crazy preacher. The Mormon factor wont be a big factor for Romney.

If he is elected, Booze and Caffeine wont be outlawed so dont worry.

But I would argue that Obama was elected by voters who don't want religion to dictate government policy, and as long as he made it clear to them that his administration would not impose any sort of religious doctrine on government, they decided they could live with whatever his personal religious beliefs might be.

On the other hand, Romney must appeal to voters who want the government to be run according to instructions given in the Bible. So his religion is much more of a big deal than Obama's, I'd say.

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 10:52 AM

Obama was elected with ties to a batshit crazy preacher.

Only to the conservative pundits and their minions. To everyone else that wasn't a factor, and rightly so.

But Mormonism can be traced back to an exact, recent date to when it started. Any serious questioning is warranted, because if someone is gullible to fall for that story, and be proud of it - that seriously hinders their image.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-17-2011, 10:54 AM

But I would argue that Obama was elected by voters who don't want religion to dictate government policy, and as long as he made it clear to them that his administration would not impose any sort of religious doctrine on government, they decided they could live with whatever his personal religious beliefs might be.

On the other hand, Romney must appeal to voters who want the government to be run according to instructions given in the Bible. So his religion is much more of a big deal than Obama's, I'd say.

If Romney said that he would take his orders from the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, then it would be a concern. Romney isnt bringing up his religion too much. Perry keeps complaining that he is sinking in the polls is that he is a Christian.

Furtherman

10-17-2011, 10:57 AM

Romney isnt bringing up his religion too much.

Other people will.

hanso

10-17-2011, 02:32 PM

Mormons are just too weird to be accepted on a mass scale of our population.

Cain continues to belittle women and immigrants and has even admitted his 999 plan would hit the middle class hard. That will kill his chances in the end.

The guys who are at the bottom of the list (except Bachmann) look better than the frontrunners, but that's because the Republicans are pandering to their hard core base. It'll be their undoing.

I agree the guy that has been in last place all along, seems to be the most levelheaded. However Jon Huntsman is also Mormon.

KnoxHarrington

10-17-2011, 03:30 PM

Other people will.

Yeah, I agree. The people Romney wants to vote for him care much more about his religion than the people Obama wanted to vote for him did.

Tenbatsuzen

10-17-2011, 03:56 PM

For fuck's sake, Romney was elected governor of MASSACHUSETTS.

You can't get more Catholic and more liberal in that state.

Dude!

10-17-2011, 04:26 PM

For fuck's sake, Romney was elected governor of MASSACHUSETTS.

You can't get more Catholic and more liberal in that state.

except for Rhode Island

Syd

10-17-2011, 05:04 PM

For fuck's sake, Romney was elected governor of MASSACHUSETTS.

You can't get more Catholic and more liberal in that state.

Religion matters less to liberals than it does conservatives, however

Syd

10-17-2011, 05:19 PM

why Perry's job bill is shit:

The governor’s jobs plan is to open more of the US to energy exploration and production.

He promises that such a policy will create 1.2 million new jobs. When I heard this, it seemed to me utterly implausible: the US oil and gas industry employs 2.1 million today, coal under 100,000 – and these at a time of high prices and active production. 50% more jobs on top of that? In a capital-intense industry?

Michael Levi of the Council on Foreign Relations checked Gov. Perry’s math on the Atlantic website. Here’s what he found:

1) The promise of 1.2 million new jobs is subject to a deadline of … 2030! These are not new jobs that would be created in the here and now, but over a long timeline of future production.

2) The promise is also subject to a bold prediction that energy prices, high now, will rise even higher over the next 18 years, oil to $180 / barrel in today’s money, natural gas to $12 per thousand cubic feet. That might happen, but then again, it might not. After all, Perry is hoping for a big increase in energy supply. Remember what happens to price as supply rises?

3) The plan rests upon heroic assumptions about the multiplier effect of oil and gas jobs. Fewer than 400,000 of Perry’s 1.2 million promised jobs will take the form of new hires by the oil and gas industry. The great balance are supposed to come from the – ahem – stimulative effects of oil and gas production. Specifically, he assumes that every 1 new job in production will support 2.5 new jobs somewhere else.

But wait a minute. The precondition for the entire estimate is an assumption that energy prices more than double in real terms over the next 18 years. If that assumption holds, we’re going to see a reverse-multiplier effect, with higher energy prices destroying many more jobs than are produced by oilworkers spending their money at the mall.

In other words: Perry’s 1.2 million figure is not a net figure. If he’s right about the energy outlook, then his 1.2 million new energy-related jobs will hardly begin to offset a much larger number of energy-related job losses.

4) The biggest kicker of them all comes from this question: how new are Perry’s jobs really? Suppose we don’t elect Rick Perry president. Suppose we just continue on the present policy path. What happens to those 1.2 million jobs in that case? And the answer is: many of them show up anyway. Perry hypothesizes that the Obama administration will impose future regulations to inhibit the development of the gas-fracking industry in the US – and then counts as “new” jobs the jobs that would come by not imposing those as-yet-nonexistent regulations. Likewise he counts as “new” jobs the jobs that would come from approval of pipelines to Canadian oil sands. Yet those approvals are roaring ahead anyway.

Last thought:

Where’d Perry get these numbers?

Answer: he found them in a pre-existing study conducted for the American Petroleum Institute. (That same study also undergirds the Senate Republicans’ job plan.)

You’ve got to ask though: if a candidate’s entire jobs plan depends on taking a single industry’s policy wish list, tearing off the cover sheet, and putting his own name on the work, without even bothering to net out the costs and benefits for the whole US economy – how serious is that candidate?

As we’ve seen throughout the Perry campaign the answer is: not very.

StanUpshaw

10-17-2011, 05:26 PM

why Perry's job bill is shit:

"multiplier effect"? "stimulative effects"?

Replace "oil & gas" with "wind & solar" and it sounds like the kind of Keynesian horseshit you'd be cumming yourself for.

underdog

10-17-2011, 08:07 PM

For fuck's sake, Romney was elected governor of MASSACHUSETTS.

You can't get more Catholic and more liberal in that state.

He also passed a universal health care law while he was there (which liberals thought was terrible and unfair, at the time).

Religion matters less to liberals than it does conservatives, however

Truth. He's just some other religious person to most liberals.

keithy_19

10-17-2011, 09:47 PM

Ambien makes these discussions sound much more like a conversation about a dystopic word stage.

Granted, I didnt take ambien. I'll letthe big boys play.

Syd

10-18-2011, 07:24 AM

"multiplier effect"? "stimulative effects"?

Replace "oil & gas" with "wind & solar" and it sounds like the kind of Keynesian horseshit you'd be cumming yourself for.

Do you understand that as oil prices rise jobs will be lost due to reduced consumer demand because more people pay a larger part of their salary toward transportation costs? be it on gas in their car or the extra cost of shipping goods? That is where you're blinded by your partisan rage and are so damn eager to toe the Republican line on alternative energy.

We've already used over half of the oil in the world, even according to the IEA which traditionally uses more liberal estimates on reserves (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/1111/International-Energy-Agency-says-peak-oil-has-hit.-Crisis-averted). The looming energy crisis can't simply be prayed away or drilled away, renewable energy is the only way to go.

Also, before you say "YEAH WELL COAL" just remember that a run of the mill coal fired power plant uses around 15,000 tons of coal daily and a run of the mill coal train can carry just about 15,000 tons of coal. All those trains run on diesel fuel. Diesel fuel which has to be refined, which uses electricity, which uses oil. Coal fired trains aren't the answer, either, due to lack of motive power and high water usage.

Short sighted people like you who are deathly afraid of change are why America is going to nosedive to 2nd world status as oil prices continue to climb. But, hey, at least you and Rush got to rage plenty against Solyndra :drunk:

StanUpshaw

10-18-2011, 07:55 AM

"U liek Rush"

The only tool left in the shed for a desperate liberal clinging to a falsified ideology.

Jujubees2

10-18-2011, 08:09 AM

Do you understand that as oil prices rise jobs will be lost due to reduced consumer demand because more people pay a larger part of their salary toward transportation costs? be it on gas in their car or the extra cost of shipping goods? That is where you're blinded by your partisan rage and are so damn eager to toe the Republican line on alternative energy.

We've already used over half of the oil in the world, even according to the IEA which traditionally uses more liberal estimates on reserves (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/1111/International-Energy-Agency-says-peak-oil-has-hit.-Crisis-averted). The looming energy crisis can't simply be prayed away or drilled away, renewable energy is the only way to go.

Also, before you say "YEAH WELL COAL" just remember that a run of the mill coal fired power plant uses around 15,000 tons of coal daily and a run of the mill coal train can carry just about 15,000 tons of coal. All those trains run on diesel fuel. Diesel fuel which has to be refined, which uses electricity, which uses oil. Coal fired trains aren't the answer, either, due to lack of motive power and high water usage.

Short sighted people like you who are deathly afraid of change are why America is going to nosedive to 2nd world status as oil prices continue to climb. But, hey, at least you and Rush got to rage plenty against Solyndra :drunk:

Well played Syd

StanUpshaw

10-18-2011, 08:12 AM

Well played Syd

Well played? His answer to rising costs is to use MORE EXPENSIVE energy.

Syd

10-18-2011, 08:45 AM

Well played? His answer to rising costs is to use MORE EXPENSIVE energy.

Yeah because oil is totes going to stay the same price forever, Rush said we just need to drill baby drill

There are 20 billion barrels of proven reserves in the US; we use 19 million barrels of oil a day at current rate. That's just about 3 years of oil if we extracted every bit of oil. Our current production rate is about 10 million barrels per day. Even a 50% increase in production still leaves us with a major shortfall and a 100% increase in production barely leaves us any room to stockpile in case of natural disasters limiting production. Oh and before I forget, remember that any increase in production will increase our oil usage from the steel used to create the drilling equipment to the plastic used by the workers to the oil used to move all the men and material into place.

So, why again do you want to paint America into a corner? Rush is going to die from his hillbilly heroin addiction sooner rather than later and hopefully by then you'll wake up. The answer isn't in dead end resources. The more we use our cheap oil now to create renewable energy, the better the payoff in the future. The more energy we have available to change our transportation grid to be more natural gas friendly or to use the Fischer-Tropsch method to turn coal and waste biomass into oil.

I know it's difficult to think about things that far into the future, but remember the rallying cry of the Tea Party about not dumping debt onto our future generations. Why would we want to leave them with no debt, but also no electricity? You can't make assault rifles without electricity, and that means there will be no freedom or low taxes.

StanUpshaw

10-18-2011, 08:53 AM

Yeah because oil is totes going to stay the same price forever, Rush said we just need to drill baby drill

There are 20 billion barrels of proven reserves in the US; we use 19 million barrels of oil a day at current rate. That's just about 3 years of oil if we extracted every bit of oil. Our current production rate is about 10 million barrels per day. Even a 50% increase in production still leaves us with a major shortfall and a 100% increase in production barely leaves us any room to stockpile in case of natural disasters limiting production. Oh and before I forget, remember that any increase in production will increase our oil usage from the steel used to create the drilling equipment to the plastic used by the workers to the oil used to move all the men and material into place.

So, why again do you want to paint America into a corner? Rush is going to die from his hillbilly heroin addiction sooner rather than later and hopefully by then you'll wake up. The answer isn't in dead end resources. The more we use our cheap oil now to create renewable energy, the better the payoff in the future. The more energy we have available to change our transportation grid to be more natural gas friendly or to use the Fischer-Tropsch method to turn coal and waste biomass into oil.

I know it's difficult to think about things that far into the future, but remember the rallying cry of the Tea Party about not dumping debt onto our future generations. Why would we want to leave them with no debt, but also no electricity? You can't make assault rifles without electricity, and that means there will be no freedom or low taxes.

The only corner-painting is being done by the hubristic fucks who claim the omniscience to be able to pick winners and losers, despite being dead wrong over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

StanUpshaw

10-18-2011, 08:58 AM

But yeah, lets go ahead and blow 3 trillion so we can kickstart your cellulosic ethanol dreams.

Or was it the hydrogen economy?

Or thin-film solar?

Syd

10-18-2011, 09:01 AM

There's no ideal storage solution for a post-oil world. Ethanol requires different pipelines. Fuel cells either require rare metals (e.g. platinum) or they're borax based which creates excessive heat.

Solar is a method of energy production, not sure if you got thin film solar panels confused with batteries?

Dude!

10-18-2011, 09:26 AM

syd is continually pwned by StanU

hanso

10-18-2011, 03:32 PM

Solar could be big here. I give kudos to Bush for starting the alt energy program back in 2006.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-18-2011, 05:08 PM

Wild one tonight

Romney vs Perry in a fight. Who ya got?

I think Cain is going to lose frontrunner status. They took him to task with Nueve Nove Nien

cougarjake13

10-18-2011, 07:39 PM

Wild one tonight

Romney vs Perry in a fight. Who ya got?

I think Cain is going to lose frontrunner status. They took him to task with Nueve Nove Nien

u went int'l i see

hanso

10-18-2011, 09:54 PM

Furtherman

10-19-2011, 05:46 AM

I thought I was watching live coverage from Zanesville, Ohio last night, but it was just the debate. Bunch of winners there.

Kevin

10-19-2011, 06:12 AM

This group is like last years NFC West.

Someone terrible is going to come out of that group but none have a shot in hell of winning the whole thing.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 06:34 AM

Obama is a beaten man already.

He can not recover

Dude!

10-19-2011, 06:44 AM

Obama is a beaten man already.

He can not recover

yeah, Kev the dweeb has blinders on

i so hope Cain is the nominee
he can run as
the authentic black american

how will black people vote
when the choice is a real
black american descended from slaves
born and raised in black christian culture
vs. a half-white poseur with a
hippie mother and non-american father
who was raised in Indonesia

Cain would peel off 25% of the black vote
and that would be enough to win a landslide

Cain: The Real Black American

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 06:56 AM

yeah, Kev the dweeb has blinders on

i so hope Cain is the nominee
he can run as
the authentic black american

how will black people vote
when the choice is a real
black american descended from slaves
born and raised in black christian culture
vs. a half-white poseur with a
hippie mother and non-american father
who was raised in Indonesia

Cain would peel off 25% of the black vote
and that would be enough to win a landslide

Cain: The Real Black American

Obama blew it on his hope and change schtick. How can anyone defend him or his record after all the fuckups.

Having an Arab shot in the head still could not resurrect his failing record

Cain really isnt black according to the self appointed poverty pimps Rev Al and Jackson

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 07:17 AM

u went int'l i see

Might as well since English is a dying language in this country.

Furtherman

10-19-2011, 07:30 AM

Does this thread reek of optimism or desperation? I can't tell.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 07:41 AM

The desperation is on the side of Obama. Taking the bus out again to promote a shitty jobs plan nobody wants.

Syd

10-19-2011, 07:57 AM

a lot of people want it, GOP is stonewalling because it'll create jobs and reduce their chances at being re-elected

Furtherman

10-19-2011, 07:58 AM

a lot of people want it, GOP is stonewalling because it'll create jobs and reduce their chances at being re-elected

Exactly. Their defiance will also be their downfall.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 08:04 AM

Even if this was up for a vote A bunch of Dems would have voted to kill it.

This would have been another stimulus. Like the 1st one was so great

The administration just recently scrapped a key provision in Obamacare

POTUS needs to burn the Keynes books and read Von Meeses, Hazlett and Bastead

Dude!

10-19-2011, 08:07 AM

Even if this was up for a vote A bunch of Dems would have voted to kill it.

dude, Harry Reid already killed it
in the Senate

Syd

10-19-2011, 08:26 AM

Even if this was up for a vote A bunch of Dems would have voted to kill it.

This would have been another stimulus. Like the 1st one was so great

The administration just recently scrapped a key provision in Obamacare

POTUS needs to burn the Keynes books and read Von Meeses, Hazlett and Bastead

we're doing Austrian now -- it seems to be working well now that only 58.4% of Americans are employed

yet corporations are sitting on record amounts of cash

if you think demand-side economics and Keynes doesn't work, do you seriously advocate supply-side and Austrian? It's been 30 years of the latter two and all we have to show for it is income stagnation for the bottom 85% of income earners

dude, Harry Reid already killed it
in the Senate

dude! he kill
ed it because
the GOP was threatening
to filibuster

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 08:39 AM

we're doing Austrian now -- it seems to be working well now that only 58.4% of Americans are employed

yet corporations are sitting on record amounts of cash

if you think demand-side economics and Keynes doesn't work, do you seriously advocate supply-side and Austrian? It's been 30 years of the latter two and all we have to show for it is income stagnation for the bottom 85% of income earners

dude! he kill
ed it because
the GOP was threatening
to filibuster

Has true Austrian economics been tried? The mainstream GOP wants big spending based on their special interests like defense and wars.

Keynsenian economics failed 75 years ago, Its failed again

Reid killed it because some Democrats like Jim Webb didnt want it.

Kevin

10-19-2011, 08:45 AM

yeah, Kev the dweeb has blinders on

i so hope Cain is the nominee
he can run as
the authentic black american

how will black people vote
when the choice is a real
black american descended from slaves
born and raised in black christian culture
vs. a half-white poseur with a
hippie mother and non-american father
who was raised in Indonesia

Cain would peel off 25% of the black vote
and that would be enough to win a landslide

Cain: The Real Black American

I hope so too.

Because he would lose by more votes than McCain did.

If you see any of these candidates winning, you are clearly retarded.

Im not saying Obama has done a great job and is unbeatable, but these guys are all terrible and have ZERO shot.

Perry can't talk
Romney changes his story and what he stands for every other week.
Bachman, idiot.
Cain, bigger.

and the rest of the 3500 canditates are even worse.

And i hate to break it to you.

Black voters don't really give a shit about religion for the most part.

Not saying they don't practice, just saying they don't let it make choices for them like white folks mainly southerners.

Maybe he will get some of the black southern votes but its not like A Dem is getting that many votes there anyway, white or black.

And Cain is about as real as your Sue Bender.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 08:47 AM

I hope so too.

Because he would lose by more votes than McCain did.

If you see any of these candidates winning, you are clearly retarded.

Im not saying Obama has done a great job and is unbeatable, but these guys are all terrible and have ZERO shot.

Perry can't talk
Romney changes his story and what he stands for every other week.
Bachman, idiot.
Cain, bigger.

and the rest of the 3500 canditates are even worse.

Tell us what you meant to say about Cain

So whats Obama going to run on? I suck at my job and fucked up the economy even more but Im not one of them? Great campaign theme

StanUpshaw

10-19-2011, 08:49 AM

we're doing Austrian now

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 08:57 AM

Biden is the gift that keeps on gaffing

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Kevin

10-19-2011, 09:02 AM

Tell us what you meant to say about Cain

So whats Obama going to run on? I suck at my job and fucked up the economy even more but Im not one of them? Great campaign theme

HA.

Thats funny.

I just meant bigger idiot.

As for Obama, he can run on the fact that Reps were stone walling him and what not.

And don't forget he will use the Osama thing, though it happened a year too late for him.

Obama would have lost with any halfway decent rep candidate.

They did everything right with their agenda of lets make him fail so we win, the problem is that they did not have a strong candidate to take advantage.

Hell, if he ran against Hilary, she would mop the floor with him.

Dude!

10-19-2011, 09:04 AM

Biden is the gift that keeps on gaffing

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see how biden put
the white guys up front
and the black guys in back

back of the biden bus, niggah!

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 09:07 AM

HA.

Thats funny.

I just meant bigger idiot.

As for Obama, he can run on the fact that Reps were stone walling him and what not.

And don't forget he will use the Osama thing, though it happened a year too late for him.

Obama would have lost with any halfway decent rep candidate.

They did everything right with their agenda of lets make him fail so we win, the problem is that they did not have a strong candidate to take advantage.

Hell, if he ran against Hilary, she would mop the floor with him.

The Osama thing wont be a big factor. A huge accomplishment for the administration but he got only a small bump in his approvals.

He willonly get a majority from his base. The Indies are going to switch sides He's lost the Latino vote he didnt deliver on Amnesty. While they probably wont vote for the GOP, they will sit out

Unemployment will be over 8% and his approval will be sub 50%

Obama had a majority Democratic congress for 2 years. He can only make excuses so many times

Why don't the Dems run a primary. I think Hillary is still popular

Syd

10-19-2011, 09:13 AM

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Yeah, because right now we have a very hands off approach to the economy which is totes different from the hands off approach the Austrian school advocates

I understand though because you disagree with me, that means it's not happening.

Syd

10-19-2011, 09:15 AM

Why don't the Dems run a primary. I think Hillary is still popular

There's no room for someone to come in on the right for the Democrats. The only way Obama gets primaried is if someone comes in from the left. There's really no candidates with that sort of money. Hell, there's really no candidate in the race right now that has the money to compete with Obama in any party.

StanUpshaw

10-19-2011, 09:20 AM

Yeah, because right now we have a very hands off approach to the economy which is totes different from the hands off approach the Austrian school advocates

I understand though because you disagree with me, that means it's not happening.

Can't tell if blinded by ideology or just retarded.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 09:21 AM

There's no room for someone to come in on the right for the Democrats. The only way Obama gets primaried is if someone comes in from the left. There's really no candidates with that sort of money. Hell, there's really no candidate in the race right now that has the money to compete with Obama in any party.

Hillary has the best weapon out there . Bill

WRESTLINGFAN

10-19-2011, 09:26 AM

While the person I want to be the nominee wont get the nod. The eventual nominee will have so much to run on against Obama. Failed war in Afghanistan, Fast and Furious, Solyndra the continuing bad economy etc. It can be are you better off than you were trillions of dollars ago?

PS as a ron Paul supporter what was up with that eyebrow in the debates last week.

Kevin

10-19-2011, 09:39 AM

I stated in the past that i like to give the President 3 year before I judge.

The 4th year is all about getting re elected.

Obama all in all has been a pretty weak president in my book.

He is too passive and tries too hard to please everyone.

Campaign Obama and President Obama are mirror oppisites.

He has battled a lot of things like and unreasonable opposition.

One i think fueled even more by a decent % of racisem. If you do not think that is the case then its YOU that has blinders on.

As WF stated, he had majority for 2 years and could not get his own party in line.

Say what you want to say abouy GWB but when he needed to get his party in line, he had no problem with ripping them a new ahole.

He got anything he wanted passed with a smaller majority than Obama had.

That being said, i still do not see him losing.

If this was 4years ago and McCain ran against this Obama, he proably wins.

Though Palin was a HUGE mistake that he got bullied into by the dummies who wanted the hilary votes.

Dirtbag

10-19-2011, 10:20 AM

And i hate to break it to you.

Black voters don't really give a shit about religion for the most part.

Not saying they don't practice, just saying they don't let it make choices for them like white folks mainly southerners.

The religious views of black and Hispanic voters are a very large reason why the gay marriage stuff doesn't pass in California. If it has enough power there, do you really think the southerners don't vote based on it?

Dude!

10-19-2011, 10:34 AM

The religious views of black and Hispanic voters are a very large reason why the gay marriage stuff doesn't pass in California. If it has enough power there, do you really think the southerners don't vote based on it?

QFT

Kevin

10-19-2011, 11:26 AM

The religious views of black and Hispanic voters are a very large reason why the gay marriage stuff doesn't pass in California. If it has enough power there, do you really think the southerners don't vote based on it?

They didn't vote for it based on they think its nasty not religion.

And I said it would be a factor in the south but Dens don't do well there anyway so not a huge deal

A.J.

10-19-2011, 11:34 AM

He has battled a lot of things like and unreasonable opposition.

His first two years, he had a majority in both houses of Congress and high approval ratings after his election and he still couldn't get any of his stuff passed. That's his and his own party's fault.

Syd

10-19-2011, 04:49 PM

9-9-9

http://i.imgur.com/rJKM7.jpg

so, I guess the best option for taxes/deficit is to raise the hell out of them on 80% of America and increase the deficit as much as possible.

CurseoftheBambi

10-20-2011, 12:11 PM

His first two years, he had a majority in both houses of Congress and high approval ratings after his election and he still couldn't get any of his stuff passed. That's his and his own party's fault. and some of those democracts were blue dogs..which are republicans but who are democracts by name.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-20-2011, 12:14 PM

and some of those democracts were blue dogs..which are republicans but who are democracts by name.

DINO's ?

WRESTLINGFAN

10-20-2011, 12:51 PM

Biden speaking to people on the same grade level as him

Too bad he didnt tell the little fuckers they each owe tens of thousands

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hanso

10-20-2011, 02:33 PM

Quote:
His first two years, he had a majority in both houses of Congress and high approval ratings after his election and he still couldn't get any of his stuff passed. That's his and his own party's fault.

and some of those democracts were blue dogs..which are republicans but who are democracts by name.

And a record amount of filibusters from the Republacan'ts.

WRESTLINGFAN

10-20-2011, 02:53 PM

Great platform for his reelection blame everyone else the GOP is racist want women to die on the floor supports rape if the jobs bill isn't passed . Just throw in they want to rip food out of poor peoples mouths

Jujubees2

10-20-2011, 02:59 PM

Herman Cain, GOP presidential hopeful on homosexuality: Being gay is a 'sin' and personal 'choice' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/10/20/2011-10-20_herman_cain_gop_presidential_hopeful_on_homosex uality_being_gay_is_a_sin_and_per.html)

WRESTLINGFAN

10-20-2011, 03:08 PM

Herman Cain, GOP presidential hopeful on homosexuality: Being gay is a 'sin' and personal 'choice' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/10/20/2011-10-20_herman_cain_gop_presidential_hopeful_on_homosex uality_being_gay_is_a_sin_and_per.html)

There goes the Catholic and Episcopal vote

Earlshog

10-21-2011, 07:48 AM

Herman Cain, GOP presidential hopeful on homosexuality: Being gay is a 'sin' and personal 'choice' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/10/20/2011-10-20_herman_cain_gop_presidential_hopeful_on_homosex uality_being_gay_is_a_sin_and_per.html)

This kind of talk is usually followed by a revelation they used to blow guys at the rest stops, until they were cured. Another gay republican. Herman's on the DL.

Dude!

10-21-2011, 08:21 AM

This kind of talk is usually followed by a revelation they used to blow guys at the rest stops, until they were cured. Another gay republican. Herman's on the DL.

i bet you are just dreaming about
those big black lips sliding up and
down on your cock

brettmojo

10-21-2011, 10:22 AM

They're eating each other alive. By the time the Republican national convention comes around all that'll be left is a munched-on Mitt Romney.

Earlshog

10-21-2011, 10:37 AM

i bet you are just dreaming about
those big black lips sliding up and
down on your cock

You have an accident in your pants writing that?

StanUpshaw

10-21-2011, 10:53 AM

They're eating each other alive. By the time the Republican national convention comes around all that'll be left is a munched-on Mitt Romney.

And then they'll all stump for him. This happens EVERY election.

Dude!

10-21-2011, 11:09 AM

And then they'll all stump for him. This happens EVERY election.

exactly...
it's nothing like the vitriol in 2008
when Hillary said she spoke for
"hardworking people...white people"

hanso

10-22-2011, 05:39 PM

WRESTLINGFAN

10-24-2011, 05:20 AM

Job creation....

In Europe

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-company-us-loan-builds-cars-finland/story?id=14770875

StanUpshaw

10-29-2011, 01:23 PM

http://i43.tinypic.com/xkp3d0.gif

hanso

10-29-2011, 04:54 PM

hanso

10-29-2011, 06:33 PM

WRESTLINGFAN

10-31-2011, 10:20 AM

http://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/assets_c/2011/10/nojobs_large-thumb-700xauto-578.jpg

Furtherman

10-31-2011, 10:46 AM

Wrong thread , wrong info.

spoon

10-31-2011, 10:50 AM

there is no wrong thread for WF to post stupid pics and links on one central theme

why think, just do

WRESTLINGFAN

10-31-2011, 11:03 AM

Pizza with extra sausage ?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/cain-campaign-prepares-for-scrutiny-of-harassment-allegations/

hanso

10-31-2011, 09:59 PM

Hey I got one of the made up headlines!

Furtherman

11-01-2011, 05:47 AM

Gayest Moments from Rick Perry’s New Hampshire Speech (http://gawker.com/5854909/the-gayest-moments-from-rick-perrys-new-hampshire-speech)

Seriously Perry? For a moment I thought I tuned into the Hollywood Center Square close-up circa 1978.

Jujubees2

11-01-2011, 05:52 AM

First Thoughts: Cain's evolving statements (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/01/8578622-first-thoughts-cains-evolving-statements)

Kevin

11-01-2011, 06:14 AM

Gayest Moments from Rick Perry’s New Hampshire Speech (http://gawker.com/5854909/the-gayest-moments-from-rick-perrys-new-hampshire-speech)

Seriously Perry? For a moment I thought I tuned into the Hollywood Center Square close-up circa 1978.

That or he was HAMMERED, In which case he will win alot of GOP votes.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-01-2011, 06:19 AM

On a good note he didnt kill

hanso

11-01-2011, 04:05 PM

Gayest Moments from Rick Perry’s New Hampshire Speech (http://gawker.com/5854909/the-gayest-moments-from-rick-perrys-new-hampshire-speech)

Seriously Perry? For a moment I thought I tuned into the Hollywood Center Square close-up circa 1978.

I need this video is it on youtube? Some of the faces he makes should make a great gif.

Dude!

11-01-2011, 05:30 PM

I don't mind if pols drink
so long as the don't drown women

spoon

11-01-2011, 08:14 PM

isn't it cute how we always come back full circle to some bullshit point made irrelevant over time about some dem not one person here has defended, much less brought up?

Awesome.

hanso

11-01-2011, 10:25 PM

Dude!

11-02-2011, 06:46 AM

Don't leave me here, Teddy!
Die, bitch

glug glug glug
glug glug
glug

Kevin

11-02-2011, 06:48 AM

Don't leave me here, Teddy!
Die, bitch

glug glug glug
glug glug
glug

aaaaaaaaaand
scene

Dude!

11-02-2011, 07:00 AM

no, little Lord Fauntleroy
is too busy being a hero
knocking snow off trees

WRESTLINGFAN

11-02-2011, 07:15 AM

Has Iowa always been historically the 1st state for Caucuses? It seems like After election day, candidates set up shop there to show they love corn

StanUpshaw

11-02-2011, 07:56 AM

Since 1972

hanso

11-02-2011, 10:32 PM

Does Romney speak to the media on any matters? All I see are the other two dolts which makes him look good by just laying low.

Kevin

11-03-2011, 04:55 AM

Does Romney speak to the media on any matters? All I see are the other two dolts which makes him look good by just laying low.

He used to but he would flip on issues every two days.

I think someone told him to lay low and let these idiots sink.

Furtherman

11-03-2011, 08:41 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304151_10150353621384032_642649031_8089383_1266401 844_n.jpg

WRESTLINGFAN

11-03-2011, 08:59 AM

Starvin for a couple of slices of pepperoni pizza

hanso

11-05-2011, 07:32 PM

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"a poet" = the theme song for Pokémon: The Movie 2000.

Set DVR next Sat at 8pm and let the hilarity ensue.

Bob Impact

11-06-2011, 03:22 AM

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"a poet" = the theme song for Pokémon: The Movie 2000.

Set DVR next Sat at 8pm and let the hilarity ensue.
That's hilarious.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-07-2011, 06:54 AM

Wow what took Allred so long to get involved?

http://news.yahoo.com/allred-says-woman-accuse-cain-145919349.html

hanso

11-07-2011, 10:09 PM

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Ken Blackwell Blames Video Editing on You Tube for Rick Perry Looking Bad in Bizarre Cornerstone Speech

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Rick Perry - Full, uncut "drunk" Cornerstone New Hampshire speech - Friday, 28 October, 2011

Dude!

11-08-2011, 06:24 AM

Wow what took Allred so long to get involved?

there is no way that a
good-looking guy like Herman Cain
would come on to that white trash Bialek

she has more scars on her face
than a smallpox victim in 1750

A.J.

11-08-2011, 06:27 AM

I thought they were showing Gennifer Flowers clips from 20 years ago.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-08-2011, 06:56 AM

So whens the Playboy shoot for Bialek

spoon

11-08-2011, 07:19 AM

So whens the Playboy shoot for Bialek

Whenever they wrap up the Papa's John issue.

Dude!

11-08-2011, 08:03 AM

i'll lose all respect for Cain
if these allegations are true

not 'cause i care about "sexual harassment"
but because he chose ugly women

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/08/110811-news-cain-accuser-1-3/

Kevin

11-08-2011, 08:11 AM

there is no way that a
good-looking guy like Herman Cain
would come on to that white trash Bialek

she has more scars on her face
than a smallpox victim in 1750

What is the deal with small pox?

If they were so small, how did they kill all those people?

I mean what is the deal?

A.J.

11-08-2011, 08:15 AM

i'll lose all respect for Cain
if these allegations are true

not 'cause i care about "sexual harassment"
but because he chose ugly women

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/08/110811-news-cain-accuser-1-3/

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ulGdqcez2JM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dude!

11-08-2011, 08:20 AM

What is the deal with small pox?

If they were so small, how did they kill all those people?

I mean what is the deal?

Kevin, i'd prefer that you not
quote my posts

brettmojo

11-08-2011, 08:23 AM

So whens the Playboy shoot for Bialek
Whenever they start publishing for blind men.

Dude!

11-08-2011, 08:24 AM

Whenever they start publishing for blind men.

Ha Ha!

Kevin

11-08-2011, 09:08 AM

Kevin, i'd prefer that you not
quote my posts

I'd prefer that you don't post.

But we can't get everything we want.

spoon

11-08-2011, 02:48 PM

i'll lose all respect for Cain
if these allegations are true

not 'cause i care about "sexual harassment"
but because he chose ugly women

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/08/110811-news-cain-accuser-1-3/

yes, that's the high ground

hanso

11-08-2011, 09:33 PM

I'd prefer that you don't post.

But we can't get everything we want.

I side with him that way I don't see them.

StanUpshaw

11-08-2011, 09:36 PM

http://i.imgur.com/FoKDU.jpg

hanso

11-08-2011, 10:11 PM

So whens the Playboy shoot for Bialek

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Only if they were done back when this happened maybe

WRESTLINGFAN

11-09-2011, 01:55 AM

I aint sayin shes a gold digger but

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-accuser-filed-complaint-next-job-080946066.html

WRESTLINGFAN

11-10-2011, 04:46 AM

Perry continues to self destruct. The false prophet couldnt think of all depts he would eliminate

A.J.

11-10-2011, 04:53 AM

You'd think God would have told him the third department when he forgot.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-10-2011, 05:23 AM

He should have wrote it on his hand

Kevin

11-10-2011, 07:07 AM

Obama might just win by default

Dude!

11-10-2011, 07:11 AM

that clip was just horrendous...
in the same league as obama
thinking there are 57 states

WRESTLINGFAN

11-10-2011, 07:20 AM

that clip was just horrendous...
in the same league as obama
thinking there are 57 states

Or children using breathalyzers

WRESTLINGFAN

11-10-2011, 09:07 AM

I wish Cramer would have goon into his character mode and pressed buttons saying Buy Buy Buy

hanso

11-10-2011, 08:41 PM

Too bad Parry was so good playing 3somes on paltalk

TripleSkeet

11-10-2011, 09:53 PM

epo

11-11-2011, 09:16 AM

Obama might just win by default

Why do you think the right keeps clamoring for more candidates? They know this crop sucks

KnoxHarrington

11-11-2011, 09:18 AM

Why do you think the right keeps clamoring for more candidates? They know this crop sucks

I'm starting to think that the real power behind the Republican party, the big money interests, wants them to take an asswhipping next year so they can blame it on the teabaggers and dump them.

As long as the Republicans keep the Senate, I don't think they care too much about having the Presidency.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-11-2011, 09:40 AM

I'm starting to think that the real power behind the Republican party, the big money interests, wants them to take an asswhipping next year so they can blame it on the teabaggers and dump them.

As long as the Republicans keep the Senate, I don't think they care too much about having the Presidency.

What good is that ?. Obama will just bypass congress and make his own laws. He already started this practice

Now if Obama gets a 2nd term he can move to the left as much as he wants. He doesnt have to worry about reelection in 2016.

Dude!

11-11-2011, 10:14 AM

As long as the Republicans keep the Senate, I don't think they care too much about having the Presidency.

um, the republicans don't
hold the senate, dummy

SonOfSmeagol

11-11-2011, 10:43 AM

Why do you think the right keeps clamoring for more candidates? They know this crop sucks

yeah. maybe some intellectual type with zero experience but a knack for reading speeches will show up and top the field.

Kevin

11-11-2011, 04:01 PM

hanso

11-12-2011, 05:59 PM

Why do you think the right keeps clamoring for more candidates? They know this crop sucks

Don't know/undecided has topped the polls all along

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Rick Parry's crazy ass priest friend

Kevin

11-12-2011, 06:12 PM

Every rep debate.

Pick a Obama thing and say its wrong.

How would we fix it?

Fuck if I know.

Dude!

11-12-2011, 07:14 PM

Every rep debate.

Pick a Obama thing and say its wrong.

How would we fix it?

Fuck if I know.

Kevin, did both your parents
have downs syndrome
or just one?

Jujubees2

11-12-2011, 07:37 PM

Kevin, did both your parents
have downs syndrome
or just one?

If both parents had it would be be quadsomy 21? Or sexsomy 21?

spoon

11-12-2011, 07:44 PM

If both parents had it would be be quadsomy 21? Or sexsomy 21?

nah, they just call it albanian

Kevin

11-13-2011, 04:56 AM

nah, they just call it albanian

OHHHHH!

ALBANIAN JOKE!

Thats hysterical, ive never heard that before!

(Knee slapper!!!)

Kevin

11-13-2011, 04:59 AM

Kevin, did both your parents
have downs syndrome
or just one?

Dude!

Did both of your parents have douchebag syndrome?

Or was your mom actually wearing like summers eve or something while she was conceiving you?

Did she forget to take it out?

Whats up bro? Your small penis and rejection cause you to be tough guy douche on the interwebs?

She isn't laughing at you when you take off your pants

She's laughing WITH you.

sailor

11-13-2011, 05:04 AM

Did both of your parents have douchebag syndrome?

Good one.

Kevin

11-13-2011, 05:06 AM

Good one.

SHUT IT LUCKY CHARMS!

brettmojo

11-13-2011, 06:17 AM

Every rep debate.

Pick a Obama thing and say its wrong.

How would we fix it?

Fuck if I know.
Oh no they'll repeal every law/fire every person Obama has hired. That'll put everything right just like it was before Obama was president and we were all living in a candyland of hopes and dreams cultured by the genius of the republican party.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-13-2011, 06:20 AM

Wasnt it supposed to be candyland after Obama got elected?

KnoxHarrington

11-13-2011, 06:33 AM

Oh no they'll repeal every law/fire every person Obama has hired. That'll put everything right just like it was before Obama was president and we were all living in a candyland of hopes and dreams cultured by the genius of the republican party.

Honestly, even if someone beats Obama, I don't expect anything he's done to be reversed. Not even "Obamacare". They'd make a few minor changes to it and claim that they "fixed" it and it's no longer "socialist."

The truth is that, with the exception of the total nutbars like Ron Paul, politically all those candidates agree with Obama far more than they are opposed to him.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-13-2011, 06:46 AM

Romney , Perry , Cain and Newt all want big government but its big gov't to fit their needs.

Kevin

11-13-2011, 07:25 AM

Romney , Perry , Cain and Newt all want big government but its big gov't to fit their needs.

Lets just face it, who ever it is, they are bought and sold many times over by the people who funded their campaign and what not.

Presidents have just really become figure heads to large corps anyway.

Both Republican and Dems

spoon

11-13-2011, 09:05 AM

OHHHHH!

ALBANIAN JOKE!

Thats hysterical, ive never heard that before!

(Knee slapper!!!)

SHUT IT LUCKY CHARMS!

glass houses buddy!

take a joke for once you dirty balbanian prick!

:innocent:

WRESTLINGFAN

11-13-2011, 03:13 PM

How the fuck is Perry still in? That shitty performance the other night sealed his fate. Plus he admitted hes a weak debater

hanso

11-13-2011, 05:19 PM

A new guy entered the race. He was on Up/w Chris Hayes Presidential Candidate Gary Johnson.

http://i.imgur.com/If0TF.jpg (http://imgur.com/If0TF)
Sharon Bialek, hugging at an event a month ago. This was after Cain said he'd never met the woman accusing him of sexual harassment (and groping).

hanso

11-13-2011, 06:09 PM

How the fuck is Perry still in? That shitty performance the other night sealed his fate. Plus he admitted hes a weak debater

There are 16-18 more of these. Let's hear it for water boarding!

WRESTLINGFAN

11-14-2011, 08:36 AM

Cain has jumped the shark. Newt gaining ground

According to CNN.com I got this breaking news alert

"A new national poll released today shows former House Speaker Newt Gingrich vaulting into a virtual tie with front-runner Mitt Romney over the last month in the Republican presidential race.
The same survey indicates businessman and former talk show host Herman Cain’s numbers falling during the same period. Cain has been mired in controversy for the past two weeks over allegations from four women that he sexually harassed them in the late 1990s them when he was head of the National Restaurant Association.
According the the CNN/ORC International poll, 24% of Republicans or GOP-leaning independents say Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is making his second presidential run, is their most likely choice for the party’s nomination. While Romney’s numbers have remained fairly steady, Gingrich surged 14 percentage points in popularity, up to 22%, since October. That 2-point difference is well within the poll’s sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percent.
At the same time, Cain has fallen 11 percentage points from 25% in October to 14% now. The poll was conducted from Friday through Sunday, well after the news of the Cain controversy broke. "

Dude!

11-14-2011, 08:49 AM

Cain has jumped the shark. Newt gaining ground

According to CNN.com I got this breaking news alert

newt is brilliant and a great speaker
he has the best ideas of anyone
on the national stage and he
explains them well

it is a shame he is so personally flawed
and has such an awful, awful wife

A.J.

11-14-2011, 08:57 AM

newt is brilliant and a great speaker
he has the best ideas of anyone
on the national stage and he
explains them well

it is a shame he is so personally flawed
and has such an awful, awful wife

I've seen them in person quite a bit since they live where I used to. She's supposedly only 4 years older than I am. She looks at least 20.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-14-2011, 09:08 AM

newt is brilliant and a great speaker
he has the best ideas of anyone
on the national stage and he
explains them well

it is a shame he is so personally flawed
and has such an awful, awful wife

He would outdebate Obama and wipe the floor with him.

Too bad Newt has all that baggage

Syd

11-14-2011, 10:43 AM

Newt spouts off some intelligent stuff from time to time but there's very little meat behind what he says. He may come off as a great debater because he's never caught flat footed but he's incapable of swaying opinions.

Bob Impact

11-14-2011, 01:02 PM

Newt spouts off some intelligent stuff from time to time but there's very little meat behind what he says. He may come off as a great debater because he's never caught flat footed but he's incapable of swaying opinions.

This. I require convincing to head towards either party and Newt has never once convinced me of anything.

booster11373

11-14-2011, 01:44 PM

With this incredibly long election cycle all these "candidates" will have there 15 minutes so far we have had about 7-10 days of

Trump

Bachman

Will Perry enter

will Christie run

Perry enters

Cain

Newt

Its a ridiculous system

spoon

11-14-2011, 01:52 PM

He would outdebate Obama and wipe the floor with him.

Too bad Newt has all that baggage

Nah, he'd just cry about the fucking questions and the fact he doesn't understand we understand it's a cliff notes type answer due to the time constraints.

He comes off as an old whiny fuck screaming get off my lawn. He has WAY too many issues to get elected if you ask me. It's Rom or the Repubs lose. Even with Mitt, it's not a sure thing.

Jujubees2

11-14-2011, 02:08 PM

Cain just lost the vegetarian vote (but he does love his meat):

Herman Cain talks pizza and politics in GQ interview; 'manly men' like meat on their pies (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/herman-cain-talks-pizza-politics-gq-interview-manly-men-meat-pies-article-1.977203#ixzz1diwyqY7H)

hanso

11-14-2011, 02:53 PM

This. I require convincing to head towards either party and Newt has never once convinced me of anything.

He has convinced me he can shut down the government. And the same talk of doing so came back when he did along with the hostage crap.

Anything that was so smart is from something he stole. The rest of the time he acts like the dimwit he is.

The government shutdown was akin to taking the ball and going home when the brat doesn't get his way.

Jujubees2

11-14-2011, 03:00 PM

Cain on Libya: 'I got all this stuff twirling around in my head' (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/14/8803868-cain-on-libya-i-got-all-this-stuff-twirling-around-in-my-head)

He probably thought they said labia...

disneyspy

11-14-2011, 03:27 PM

Cain on Libya: 'I got all this stuff twirling around in my head' (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/14/8803868-cain-on-libya-i-got-all-this-stuff-twirling-around-in-my-head)

He probably thought they said labia...

HA!!

WRESTLINGFAN

11-15-2011, 07:53 AM

I would have mentioned people lobbying for this unnecessary war.

Dude!

11-15-2011, 08:34 AM

I would have mentioned people lobbying for this unnecessary war.

or lobbing a nuclear bomb
into the men's room of the Kremilin!

brettmojo

11-15-2011, 10:03 AM

Cain on Libya: 'I got all this stuff twirling around in my head' (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/14/8803868-cain-on-libya-i-got-all-this-stuff-twirling-around-in-my-head)

He probably thought they said labia...
It's like a republican field of candidates full of Palins.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-15-2011, 11:42 AM

The comedians and late night hosts must be heated that shes not in. They would have had tons of easy material.

spoon

11-15-2011, 11:45 AM

The comedians and late night hosts must be heated that shes not in. They would have had tons of easy material.

Oh she's still around and I expect to hear from her often as this thing heats up.

hanso

11-15-2011, 09:26 PM

StanUpshaw

11-15-2011, 09:33 PM

Are you allergic to YouTube or something?

WRESTLINGFAN

11-16-2011, 02:37 PM

Call Newt the Freddie Mac Daddy

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-freddie-scrutiny-20111116,0,4347375.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Fpolitics+%28 L.A.+Times+-+Politics%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

epo

11-16-2011, 06:14 PM

Call Newt the Freddie Mac Daddy

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-freddie-scrutiny-20111116,0,4347375.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Fpolitics+%28 L.A.+Times+-+Politics%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

Watching the republicans trade front-runner girlfriends is just hilarious.

Eventually they'll do what they don't want to: marry Mitt Romney.

StanUpshaw

11-16-2011, 06:31 PM

We've gone through a string of bad marriages. But now we're a little wiser, a little more mature, and we're through being seduced by the big titted sluts. We're going to settle down with the smart, nice, girl who's been perfect for us all along, but we've just been too horny to notice. That girl is Ron Paul.

Dude!

11-16-2011, 08:53 PM

Eventually they'll do what they don't want to: marry Mitt Romney.

because common sense will prevail...

and he will beat obama handily

Kevin

11-16-2011, 09:16 PM

because common sense will prevail...

and he will beat obama handily

I thought the "Real" Herman Cain was going to do that...

hanso

11-16-2011, 09:20 PM

I thought the "Real" Herman Cain was going to do that...

He has this going for him...

GOP House Appropriations Committee says Pizza is a Vegetable ...
The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable.

spoon

11-16-2011, 09:27 PM

He has this going for him...

GOP House Appropriations Committee says Pizza is a Vegetable ...
The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable.

And then he can add the meat like normal.

hanso

11-16-2011, 09:36 PM

And then he can add the meat like normal.

I'm sure he does that. Have you seen him in his pimp hat?

A.J.

11-17-2011, 04:15 AM

And then he can add the meat like normal.

Those people love meat on their pizzas.

Jujubees2

11-17-2011, 05:03 AM

He has this going for him...

GOP House Appropriations Committee says Pizza is a Vegetable ...
The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable.

Didn't the Reagan administration do this back in the 80's with ketchup?

WRESTLINGFAN

11-17-2011, 06:14 AM

Bigger gov't more unnecessary shit like whats a vegetable and whats not.

This was probably a kickback to the tomato paste lobby

Dude!

11-17-2011, 08:09 AM

I thought the "Real" Herman Cain was going to do that...

i am so flattered that you
hang on my every word

do you print out my posts
and keep them in a
bound leather book?

spoon

11-17-2011, 08:51 AM

nobody
has
that
much
paper

and
besides,
it's
not
that
tough
to
remember
political
stances
of
someone
who
is
constantly
on
the
attack

spoon

11-17-2011, 08:54 AM

Yet _______________I
am _______________surprised
Kevin______________can
recall______________anything
at_________________all.

Furtherman

11-17-2011, 08:58 AM

nobody
has
that
much
paper

and
besides,
it's
not
that
tough
to
remember
political
stances
of
someone
who
is
constantly
on
the
attack

...and wrong.

spoon

11-17-2011, 08:59 AM

...and wrong.

indeed

KnoxHarrington

11-17-2011, 09:00 AM

This Republican nomination process is fucking hilarious. It's pretty obvious that Romney is going to eventually get the nomination, at least to me, but it seems like they have to go through the motions of letting the teabaggers' favorite candidate lead for a while, so that they can prove that he or she is either too crazy (Bachmann), too stupid (Perry and Cain), or too sleazy (Gingrich) to actually beat Obama. I can't see it ending well, though: it will end up with a demoralized base, and a candidate that doesn't particularly appeal to anyone else.