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newport king
11-20-2013, 07:35 PM
Arod is the least likable guy in baseball but yet MLB has everyone rooting for him

spoon
11-20-2013, 07:47 PM
Arod is the least likable guy in baseball but yet MLB has everyone rooting for him

crazy right

A.J.
11-21-2013, 04:36 AM
I'll be glad when both ARod and Selig are gone from baseball.

WRESTLINGFAN
11-21-2013, 04:56 AM
I'll be glad when both ARod and Selig are gone from baseball.

Another year or so left with Selig

cougarjake13
11-21-2013, 08:07 AM
just missed it, but did hear parts and Arod is now on record showing his disdain, but also his ignorance

does anyone believe for a second he was clean THIS time when everyone else involved here that MLB went after just up and accepted the penalty? albeit the normal first offenses in most cases and none as harsh as Arod's suspension, but really, Arod was the clean one of this bunch…YOU?

:lol:

both he and Selig need to just go away



other guys only got 50 games where he would have lost a year and half almost and by time he would have come back he'd be almost 40 and most likely done that's prolly why among other things he didn't accept it

WRESTLINGFAN
11-21-2013, 11:44 AM
Trade could work out well for Detroit. Kinslers contract isn't a 9 year mega deal like Fielders and it frees up money for a possible Scherzer extension

A.J.
11-21-2013, 12:02 PM
Trade could work out well for Detroit. Kinslers contract isn't a 9 year mega deal like Fielders and it frees up money for a possible Scherzer extension

And it moves Miggy back to 1st base. Detroit also needs that money to get a better bullpen.

Kevin
11-21-2013, 05:31 PM
Trade could work out well for Detroit. Kinslers contract isn't a 9 year mega deal like Fielders and it frees up money for a possible Scherzer extension

Apparently Prince banged a players wife.. Thats why he is being traded.

I would also hold off on a Scherzer extension.. I have to see at least another year of this before I give him the money it would take.

cougarjake13
11-21-2013, 07:07 PM
Apparently Prince banged a players wife.. Thats why he is being traded.

I would also hold off on a Scherzer extension.. I have to see at least another year of this before I give him the money it would take.

I thought someone was banging his chick and that's why torri hunter said what he said when he defended princes poor play

spoon
11-21-2013, 08:06 PM
Apparently Prince banged a players wife.. Thats why he is being traded.

I would also hold off on a Scherzer extension.. I have to see at least another year of this before I give him the money it would take.


SERIOUSLY?!?!

So that must explain why he reunited with his dickbag of a father, he's just the same.

what an asshole. these guys have MILLIONS and can't go find someone else?!

so idiotic

spoon
11-21-2013, 08:09 PM
I thought someone was banging his chick and that's why torri hunter said what he said when he defended princes poor play

THAT would make more sense to me, as he was so po'd with his dad bc of how he treated him and his mom (infidelity and all that jazz), so while I don't hope for this, I'd be glad not to hate a guy who I kind of rooted for bc he seemed like a good guy and someone who tried to change his path.

If anyone knows for sure, fill us in.



As for Hunter, AWESOME guy. Met him more than once out in Arizona during Spring training (when with the Angels mostly) and he may hate the yankees more than me. Immediate awesomeness. I knew he wouldn't go there in the end just based on that and I hope he stands true on this bc he's pretty much in their wheel house when they shop for prospects of late.

A.J.
11-22-2013, 04:20 AM
SERIOUSLY?!?!

So that must explain why he reunited with his dickbag of a father, he's just the same.

what an asshole. these guys have MILLIONS and can't go find someone else?!

so idiotic

The dick wants what it wants.

I mean the heart...the HEART wants what it wants.

epo
11-22-2013, 08:15 AM
THAT would make more sense to me, as he was so po'd with his dad bc of how he treated him and his mom (infidelity and all that jazz), so while I don't hope for this, I'd be glad not to hate a guy who I kind of rooted for bc he seemed like a good guy and someone who tried to change his path.

If anyone knows for sure, fill us in.



As for Hunter, AWESOME guy. Met him more than once out in Arizona during Spring training (when with the Angels mostly) and he may hate the yankees more than me. Immediate awesomeness. I knew he wouldn't go there in the end just based on that and I hope he stands true on this bc he's pretty much in their wheel house when they shop for prospects of late.

The version I've heard is that somebody was banging his wife. I forget when it is, but there was a point in the season when Prince went from killing the ball, to the absolute crapper. It defies logic.

I do know that while in MKE he was always with his kids, as he didn't want to be the scumbag that his dad was. So if I had to believe a side, I'd guess that Prince was the victim here.

hanso
11-22-2013, 08:29 AM
Well some players are getting extensions in that clubhouse...

Kevin
11-22-2013, 05:18 PM
The version I've heard is that somebody was banging his wife. I forget when it is, but there was a point in the season when Prince went from killing the ball, to the absolute crapper. It defies logic.

I do know that while in MKE he was always with his kids, as he didn't want to be the scumbag that his dad was. So if I had to believe a side, I'd guess that Prince was the victim here.

Well you also believed Ryan Braun.. So that's that...

spoon
11-22-2013, 05:40 PM
I have no clue on this one, but I'd say that was a very different situation.

I'd LIKE to believe the angle where Prince isn't the douche his father clearly was, but I have no way of substantiating any of this.

Snoogans
11-22-2013, 05:40 PM
The version I've heard is that somebody was banging his wife. I forget when it is, but there was a point in the season when Prince went from killing the ball, to the absolute crapper. It defies logic.

I do know that while in MKE he was always with his kids, as he didn't want to be the scumbag that his dad was. So if I had to believe a side, I'd guess that Prince was the victim here.

i heard that he had sex with the wife of the best prospect in the Tigers system. It was like 2 years ago. His wife found out, and thats why they got divorced, and his life falling apart is why he stopped hitting.

Anyway, apparently Detroit wants to make that prospect a big part of the team, and also prob thought prince is a scumbag. So they shipped him out. Thats how I heard it

spoon
11-22-2013, 05:42 PM
i heard that he had sex with the wife of the best prospect in the Tigers system. It was like 2 years ago. His wife found out, and thats why they got divorced, and his life falling apart is why he stopped hitting.

Anyway, apparently Detroit wants to make that prospect a big part of the team, and also prob thought prince is a scumbag. So they shipped him out. Thats how I heard it

wow, how many versions are out there with this story?

yet I have to think they'd move the problem, not the victim so I have to think it was Prince based on that very loose logic

Snoogans
11-22-2013, 05:43 PM
wow, how many versions are out there with this story?

yet I have to think they'd move the problem, not the victim so I have to think it was Prince based on that very loose logic

thats what I would think also. It reminds me of the rumors in Boston about why they let go Cabrera after the first WS win. Apparently he had fucked someones wife. I cant imagine Prince Fielder would have had a teammate fuck his wife and the org decided they needed to get rid of Fielder to fix the issue. that is just insanely stupid

spoon
11-22-2013, 05:46 PM
thats what I would think also. It reminds me of the rumors in Boston about why they let go Cabrera after the first WS win. Apparently he had fucked someones wife. I cant imagine Prince Fielder would have had a teammate fuck his wife and the org decided they needed to get rid of Fielder to fix the issue. that is just insanely stupid


well it COULD give them motive and reasoning when discussing it with other managers…as in "we have to move someone as most don't know yet" as a nice smokescreen to the real goal of dumping his awful contract

who gives fat out of shape guys such long and risky contracts?

Kevin
11-22-2013, 06:20 PM
well it COULD give them motive and reasoning when discussing it with other managers…as in "we have to move someone as most don't know yet" as a nice smokescreen to the real goal of dumping his awful contract

who gives fat out of shape guys such long and risky contracts?

http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/brian-cashman1-540x375.jpg

WRESTLINGFAN
12-01-2013, 04:56 AM
Hughes signs with Twins 3 years 24 million.

hanso
12-01-2013, 04:59 AM
Hughes signs with Twins 3 years 24 million.

Ant can work for fox news xm now

newport king
12-01-2013, 06:11 AM
Supposedly Mets are shooting for Bronson Arroyo. The cheaper option wouldve been Hughes. Plus hes got more upside.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-01-2013, 07:23 AM
Target field could be a better fit for Hughes. He gave up a ton of HR's. Twinkies also picked up Ricky Nolasco.

epo
12-01-2013, 12:04 PM
i heard that he had sex with the wife of the best prospect in the Tigers system. It was like 2 years ago. His wife found out, and thats why they got divorced, and his life falling apart is why he stopped hitting.

Anyway, apparently Detroit wants to make that prospect a big part of the team, and also prob thought prince is a scumbag. So they shipped him out. Thats how I heard it

That prospect was traded during the season. (Avasail Garcia). Now Fielder is in Texas (and apparently back with his wife).

Looks like the Tigers did the old-fashioned "fuck both of you" in this situation.

cougarjake13
12-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Hot stove heating up

Kevin
12-01-2013, 03:13 PM
The twins are really over paying on mediocre to bad pitching this year...

Phil Hughes 8mil a year???

WRESTLINGFAN
12-01-2013, 03:50 PM
Cano's people might try to make the case that Byrd and Hughes were given contracts more than their value.


Yankee brass said that there is an $80 million gap between Cano and the Yanks

cougarjake13
12-01-2013, 04:00 PM
They can make any case they want
if they don't wanna pay him x then he isn't getting that money from yanks or anywhere else

Kevin
12-01-2013, 04:10 PM
Cano's people might try to make the case that Byrd and Hughes were given contracts more than their value.


Yankee brass said that there is an $80 million gap between Cano and the Yanks

Cano is an idiot.

You don't fire Scott Boras for Jay Z, in any realm of possibility.

They have zero leverage.

Comprable players have gotten 110 to 138 Wright and Padrioa

No other team who can spend big wants him.

Sending out fake offers won't help you and no one is gunna give a fuck if you are Jay Z

WRESTLINGFAN
12-01-2013, 04:10 PM
I agree.

I think a 7 year deal at 23 mill a year tops is a fair amount. If they want to frontload it for the 1st 3 years or so, that wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

I know his camp had a meeting with the Mets but the Wilpons aren't shelling out 9 figures for him. Other than rumors about the Cubs and maybe Philly are there other teams who are showing interest?

Winter meetings are next week, It could drag out into 2014.

Kevin
12-01-2013, 04:16 PM
I agree.

I think a 7 year deal at 23 mill a year tops is a fair amount. If they want to frontload it for the 1st 3 years or so, that wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

I know his camp had a meeting with the Mets but the Wilpons aren't shelling out 9 figures for him. Other than rumors about the Cubs and maybe Philly are there other teams who are showing interest?

Winter meetings are next week, It could drag out into 2014.

Cubs are nowhere near the place to start spending on FA and the Phillies aren't either...

Its manufactured garbage.

foodcourtdruide
12-01-2013, 04:28 PM
Cubs are nowhere near the place to start spending on FA and the Phillies aren't either...

Its manufactured garbage.

I'd say I'm 100% certain Cano signs with the Yankees. I'd be completely shocked if he didn't, it's just a matter of how much it'll cost them. My prediction is 7 years, with an 8th option at $25m per.

Snoogans
12-01-2013, 04:34 PM
Cano is an idiot.

You don't fire Scott Boras for Jay Z, in any realm of possibility.

They have zero leverage.

Comprable players have gotten 110 to 138 Wright and Padrioa

No other team who can spend big wants him.

Sending out fake offers won't help you and no one is gunna give a fuck if you are Jay Z

the funny part is, thats all wrong. Jay Z is actually not canos agent. Roc Nation reps him as a manager but Canos actual agent, according to the article i read yesterday, is someone from CAA

spoon
12-01-2013, 05:04 PM
Cano is an idiot.

You don't fire Scott Boras for Jay Z, in any realm of possibility.

They have zero leverage.

Comprable players have gotten 110 to 138 Wright and Padrioa

No other team who can spend big wants him.

Sending out fake offers won't help you and no one is gunna give a fuck if you are Jay Z

http://i.imgur.com/xBI5MNM.gif

Kevin
12-01-2013, 07:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xBI5MNM.gif

Ok let me speak your language

Yankees Fault

Yankees fault

Yankees Fault

Yankees Fault,

Better?

spoon
12-01-2013, 08:19 PM
nope, you're still stupid

no leverage Kev? NONE?

arguably the BEST second baseman in the league still in his prime and never an injury concern has none to you simply bc he wants money from your team, and get this, may play elsewhere. you think teams like Philly, LA and NYM wouldn't kick the tires simply to jack up the price here? Come on man, you can't be this thick…nah, you are.

bottom line is he's asking for the world, like MOST hitmen tied to the spanks, so he can get a HUGE contract nonetheless in the end. OH and he'll get it, and I hope he makes a song with your boy after it. This is the same guy who cried when the Knicks couldn't get Lebron and it was HIS fault for not wanting to come there. He was afraid right? Who cares, it's bball and I don't in the slightest, but seeing you post in your normal biased stupid way is comical.

Oh and it's ironic you're calling me out on hating the yanks in a thread where I've now defended two players in a row from your team…ha! Arod and Cano are both right and are spanks. Hopefully the first for life and the latter for no longer and he just CRUSHES you guys every time.

Albanian BDC = Kevin

Kevin
12-01-2013, 09:12 PM
nope, you're still stupid

no leverage Kev? NONE?

arguably the BEST second baseman in the league still in his prime and never an injury concern has none to you simply bc he wants money from your team, and get this, may play elsewhere. you think teams like Philly, LA and NYM wouldn't kick the tires simply to jack up the price here? Come on man, you can't be this thick…nah, you are.

bottom line is he's asking for the world, like MOST hitmen tied to the spanks, so he can get a HUGE contract nonetheless in the end. OH and he'll get it, and I hope he makes a song with your boy after it. This is the same guy who cried when the Knicks couldn't get Lebron and it was HIS fault for not wanting to come there. He was afraid right? Who cares, it's bball and I don't in the slightest, but seeing you post in your normal biased stupid way is comical.

Oh and it's ironic you're calling me out on hating the yanks in a thread where I've now defended two players in a row from your team…ha! Arod and Cano are both right and are spanks. Hopefully the first for life and the latter for no longer and he just CRUSHES you guys every time.

Albanian BDC = Kevin

You have defended them because they are against the team.... Do not try to twist your nonsense with me... Your defending them is continuing with your anti Yankee nonsense. Maybe some idiot can buy your shit, but not me.

2nd... It does not matter what talent he has. He has no leverage.

People with comparable stats have gotten less than the Yankee offer to him.

He is not getting more.

No one is kicking any tires with the Yankees. It will be like kicking another big dog. You don't want them doing it to you

But again...


Yankees fault
Yankees fault
Yankees fault

There, thats better to understand.

spoon
12-01-2013, 09:17 PM
first off kevin, you ARE that idiot you speak of

second, you tire kicking/big dog example is beyond stupid…much less yankee fault having anything to do with this discussion…YET, perhaps they DID bring this shit storm on themselves based on YEARS of bullshit inflated contracts and he wants his due now? You convinced me with your idiot's logic Kev, yankee's fault!! ha!!!


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spoon
12-02-2013, 10:22 AM
Cano is an idiot.

You don't fire Scott Boras for Jay Z, in any realm of possibility.

They have zero leverage.

Comprable players have gotten 110 to 138 Wright and Padrioa

No other team who can spend big wants him.

Sending out fake offers won't help you and no one is gunna give a fuck if you are Jay Z

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/MORENO-TEARS.gif




Fixed!

spoon
12-02-2013, 11:38 AM
Yeah…the "catching" nightmare that is JPA is going, going, GONE! (http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2013/04/02/j-p-arencibias-night-in-9-gifs/?utm_source=blogs.thescore.com&utm_medium=related-post-plugin&utm_campaign=J.P.+Arencibia%27s+night+in+9+GIFs)

Well our replacement sucks too unfortunately, but he at least doesn't strike out 3-4 times a game and walk once a year ON TOP of bad d/calling games.

Seriously, check out him in his ATTEMPT to catch the knuckle ball! He does this a few times a night with guys on base and simply tossing pitchers too.

spoon
12-02-2013, 11:51 AM
Educate yourself Kev…just use google translate. (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/baseballinsider/2013/12/300-million-perception-did-not-help-robinson-cano-ny-mets-wise-to-pass-on--0)

A.J.
12-02-2013, 11:55 AM
Yeah…the "catching" nightmare that is JPA is going, going, GONE! (http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2013/04/02/j-p-arencibias-night-in-9-gifs/?utm_source=blogs.thescore.com&utm_medium=related-post-plugin&utm_campaign=J.P.+Arencibia%27s+night+in+9+GIFs)

Well our replacement sucks too unfortunately, but he at least doesn't strike out 3-4 times a game and walk once a year ON TOP of bad d/calling games.

Seriously, check out him in his ATTEMPT to catch the knuckle ball! He does this a few times a night with guys on base and simply tossing pitchers too.
Stay away from Salty, dammit!

spoon
12-02-2013, 12:00 PM
being they just spent a couple million on a catcher, the Jays are NOT going to make a play on Salty

A.J.
12-02-2013, 12:01 PM
I missed that -- who did they end up getting?

spoon
12-02-2013, 12:04 PM
Dioner Navarro

he walked once and now has a better on on-base percentage than JPA…also it was a K, so that's an immediate upgrade there. no more 0-2 counts down 3 in the 7th and he's swinging for the fences and closed eye K's

oh and he catches worse than Fez

A.J.
12-02-2013, 12:10 PM
I wish Fez could catch....or pitch for that matter.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-02-2013, 04:46 PM
Nats get Doug Fister


Kazmir gets 2 years from Oakland. He was playing Indy ball a couple years ago. Had a decent season with the Indians

hanso
12-02-2013, 08:59 PM
Someone named Furbush was involved in the Fister trade.

spoon
12-02-2013, 09:36 PM
Fister was dirt cheap…how did they NOT get a better offer on him? Shame on every other GM for not upping the ante for this guy. Wow level of shit coming back when the Tiger's own tweet of the trade include the word "utility player" and "low level pitchers"

A.J.
12-03-2013, 04:57 AM
I cannot believe the Nats let Lombardozzi go. He should have been a starter here.

So the Tiger have Miggy, Iggy, Kinsler and Lombo for an infield. That's pretty good but they still need a bullpen.

cougarjake13
12-03-2013, 06:24 AM
AJ why didn't u tell us u signed with the bosawx

A.J.
12-03-2013, 06:43 AM
I wish.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-03-2013, 06:37 PM
Salty signs with Marlins. Detroit looking to sign Nathan to boost their bullpen

cougarjake13
12-03-2013, 07:15 PM
ELisbury to yanks

spoon
12-03-2013, 08:27 PM
Salty signs with Marlins. Detroit looking to sign Nathan to boost their bullpen

Looking?

Dirtbag
12-03-2013, 11:03 PM
The Diamondbacks unloaded Heath Bell on Tampa Bay. With their track record he'll probably have 45 saves this year.

A.J.
12-04-2013, 04:31 AM
Salty signs with Marlins. Detroit looking to sign Nathan to boost their bullpen

Fare thee well Salty.

hanso
12-04-2013, 07:15 AM
Salty Marlins sounds like a fit.

A.J.
12-04-2013, 07:22 AM
For now anyway -- since he's from down there and God knows they need the help.

But Miami is due for another fire sale in a season or two.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-04-2013, 07:55 AM
Mets and Granderson discussing 3 yr deal according to ESPN

Konerko staying with ChiSox

hanso
12-04-2013, 08:46 AM
For now anyway -- since he's from down there and God knows they need the help.

But Miami is due for another fire sale in a season or two.

He says as the Sox's players drop one by one.


I am sick of the beating of the dead horse.

cougarjake13
12-04-2013, 11:45 AM
Mets and Granderson discussing 3 yr deal according to ESPN

Konerko staying with ChiSox

As a mutts fan I say why ?
Signing him isn't going to make us anywhere close to contenders so I'd save the money

hanso
12-04-2013, 12:33 PM
As a mutts fan I say why ?
Signing him isn't going to make us anywhere close to contenders so I'd save the money

So the Grandy-apple can come out of the hat?

newport king
12-04-2013, 01:06 PM
As a mutts fan I say why ?
Signing him isn't going to make us anywhere close to contenders so I'd save the money

So the cheap owners can say they spent money when they need him PLUS more. If they do it, fine. But dont let this be the only move

WRESTLINGFAN
12-06-2013, 06:55 AM
Cano to Mariners

10 years 240 million

hanso
12-06-2013, 07:08 AM
Cano to Mariners

10 years 240 million

Now they can shop for #4 and #5 pitching.

A.J.
12-06-2013, 07:12 AM
Cano to Mariners

10 years 240 million

Trader.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-06-2013, 07:18 AM
Robinson Don't cha know, there he goes

WRESTLINGFAN
12-06-2013, 07:28 AM
Granderson to Mets

Misteriosa
12-06-2013, 07:31 AM
Granderson to Mets

i thought they were just in talks :surrender:

Misteriosa
12-06-2013, 07:32 AM
Cano to Mariners

10 years 240 million

that made me sad when i heard it this morning

Jayw
12-06-2013, 07:46 AM
Cano to Mariners

10 years 240 million

Man it feels good to have a GM (mozeliak) who doesn't crush the team with terrible contracts like this. What a bad deal for M fans.

cougarjake13
12-06-2013, 07:47 AM
that made me sad when i heard it this morning


Even the Yankees couldn't spend all that money

Jayw
12-06-2013, 07:48 AM
I will add though that I would rather have cano than ellsbury. Ellsbury trade is embarrassing.

cougarjake13
12-06-2013, 07:49 AM
Granderson to Mets
Nothing I seen said it's a done deal yet

WRESTLINGFAN
12-06-2013, 07:50 AM
Seattle still can trade for David Price and sign Nelson Cruz

WRESTLINGFAN
12-06-2013, 08:25 AM
Nothing I seen said it's a done deal yet



MLB network confirmed

hanso
12-06-2013, 09:49 AM
Rumor mill has Marlins looking for 'a big bat' to play first base. Damn radio tease didn't give a name. OK it's Garrett Jones

WRESTLINGFAN
12-06-2013, 10:25 AM
No state income tax in WA. I am sure that was a factor.

Snoogans
12-06-2013, 10:26 AM
I cant wait to try some of the new Cano Kush that they will inevitable have in seattle

Kevin
12-06-2013, 01:25 PM
I'd love for a certain person to tell me how Cano is not just like A rod 2000 and how the Seattle fans that booed then will be absolute hypocrites for cheering cano. But Cano was just smart enough to suckered a team into out bidding themselves for 3 years and 70mil dollars, right?

cougarjake13
12-06-2013, 02:24 PM
And why not pay a rod then but pay cano now

Dirtbag
12-06-2013, 04:36 PM
$252 million was a lot different in 2000.

cougarjake13
12-06-2013, 05:05 PM
But seattle was still a contender then

spoon
12-06-2013, 05:06 PM
Hahahaa! Idiot thinks i like these contracts in mlb versus having nyy lose a great player...another international free agent...perhaps for the first time in decades they really didn't want to move on from.

Oh and they're hypocrites?! That's awesome.

cougarjake13
12-06-2013, 06:06 PM
Looks like yanks got beltran

newport king
12-06-2013, 06:18 PM
3yrs 45mil

newport king
12-06-2013, 06:18 PM
He'll hit 45hrs in that park

Kevin
12-06-2013, 06:48 PM
Hahahaa! Idiot thinks i like these contracts in mlb versus having nyy lose a great player...another international free agent...perhaps for the first time in decades they really didn't want to move on from.

Oh and they're hypocrites?! That's awesome.

You are such a goddamn hypocrite goon that it is just hysterical now.

The similarities are so stark that you must be retarded.

You really are the Ted Cruz of this board.

Kevin
12-06-2013, 06:50 PM
He'll hit 45hrs in that park

Hey hey YOU SHUT IT!!

Beltran is GREEDY!

Now it would have been another story if he signed with another team.

Kevin
12-06-2013, 06:53 PM
$252 million was a lot different in 2000.

Same premise..

Home grown guy leaves team and gets new team to pay much much more than anyone offers.

Neither is wrong. But Ted Cruz Spooniour thinks that one is.

hanso
12-06-2013, 08:17 PM
I'd love for a certain person to tell me how Cano is not just like A rod 2000 and how the Seattle fans that booed then will be absolute hypocrites for cheering cano. But Cano was just smart enough to suckered a team into out bidding themselves for 3 years and 70mil dollars, right?

Don't you know

spoon
12-06-2013, 09:11 PM
You are such a goddamn hypocrite goon that it is just hysterical now.

The similarities are so stark that you must be retarded.

You really are the Ted Cruz of this board.

you don't know the definition of hypocrite do you?

stupid question, forget I asked it

a ted cruz joke, awful

spoon
12-06-2013, 09:20 PM
Same premise..

Home grown guy leaves team and gets new team to pay much much more than anyone offers.

Neither is wrong. But Ted Cruz Spooniour thinks that one is.

ooo, so glad you're running with yet another HORRIBLE line

and again, you're an ignorant fool that makes little sense…ever

tell me again next year during free agency when giving a third of a BILLION dollars in contracts out this year with an average of 5 year (Beltran 3, Els 7 and McCann 5)…Infante, Choo and others on the mound surely coming.

you're a riot…nah, I meant idiot

Jayw
12-07-2013, 12:28 AM
K ted.

OGC
12-07-2013, 03:24 AM
Napoli returning to Boston (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/10093236/mike-napoli-boston-red-sox-agree-deal) 2 years/32 million

hanso
12-07-2013, 05:20 AM
Spoon is a tea party zealot for not liking the Yanks.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-08-2013, 08:33 AM
Winter meetings begin tomorrow. Still some free agents like Choo, Ervin Santana and Garza available

The Rays could trade Price.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-09-2013, 06:30 AM
Torre , Cox, LaRussa elected to HOF

2014'S class will have a lot of inductees. Glavine and Maddux are a lock. I think Frank Thomas will get in probably a tad over the 75% threshold

joeyballsack
12-09-2013, 07:09 AM
Halladay retires as a Blue Jay.

HOF worthy ?

WRESTLINGFAN
12-09-2013, 07:44 AM
The 2 Cy Youngs will help him as well as a .659 winning percentage. He pitched in a few of the steroid years on a team in the AL East.

newport king
12-09-2013, 08:18 AM
Pffft...Pelfrey was better.

hanso
12-09-2013, 08:51 AM
Winter meetings begin tomorrow. Still some free agents like Choo, Ervin Santana and Garza available

The Rays could trade Price.

Don't they say this every off season?

spoon
12-09-2013, 10:10 AM
Pffft...Pelfrey was better.


Ha!! That one just killed me!

Not sure on hof, but he has no real shot if you ask me. If he was on another team that won games outside those he pitched, perhaps, but not with Toronto and the tail end of philly's good teams. Not seeing it.

spoon
12-09-2013, 10:11 AM
Yet for once Price does seem to be on the market via trade. Yet we know tb is smart and will demand great value for him and should.

cougarjake13
12-09-2013, 11:08 AM
Don't they say this every off season?
Once they get past the rookie contract and msybe 1 or 2 arbitration years Yeh

WRESTLINGFAN
12-10-2013, 05:37 AM
Don't they say this every off season?


Another name brought up every year. Cliff Lee

Phils want to trade him but not willing to pick up his remaining 62 million

hanso
12-10-2013, 08:48 AM
Another name brought up every year. Cliff Lee

Phils want to trade him but not willing to pick up his remaining 62 million

Maybe they can trade one for other.

hanso
12-10-2013, 08:51 AM
Was reading about the Marlins. This last season was the worst offensively in team/MLB history. They blame the park. But didn't the other teams they played score better?

Dirtbag
12-10-2013, 11:38 AM
Trumbo to Dbacks, Skaggs to Angles, Eaton to White Sox.

Fuck you, Kevin Towers.

spoon
12-10-2013, 01:59 PM
Another name brought up every year. Cliff Lee

Phils want to trade him but not willing to pick up his remaining 62 million

yah, too bad he HAS moved four fucking times already

good comp

spoon
12-11-2013, 10:39 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbJEAzGCUAAIlPH.jpg

so classy

also so sad, but does he not try to come back when feeling good at 37 after surgery?

can't believe he's actually at the end…amazing pitcher

spoon
12-11-2013, 10:40 AM
Price all but refused a trade to the Mariners by saying he would NOT sign an extension once there…at least he was honest.

Now Seattle is after Choo too? wtf is going on there?

hanso
12-11-2013, 11:44 AM
Rumor mill has Marlins looking for 'a big bat' to play first base. Damn radio tease didn't give a name. OK it's Garrett Jones

This guy signed and will play first. Talk is that Lo-Mo will be traded now for someone at third. There are several teams interested in Morrison they say.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-11-2013, 12:52 PM
Corey Hart signs 1yr deal with Mariners

newport king
12-11-2013, 01:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbJEAzGCUAAIlPH.jpg

so classy

also so sad, but does he not try to come back when feeling good at 37 after surgery?

can't believe he's actually at the end…amazing pitcher

Big Fucking Pelf didnt write me a letter.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-11-2013, 02:52 PM
Bartolo Colon to mets 2 years

cougarjake13
12-11-2013, 04:14 PM
Bartolo Colon to mets 2 yearsdoes he even have that long left in his career ?

WRESTLINGFAN
12-11-2013, 06:31 PM
Colon had a decent 2013 with Oakland

cougarjake13
12-11-2013, 06:32 PM
Which was very surprising since I thought he was done 2 years ago

And wasn't he caught for using something ?

WRESTLINGFAN
12-11-2013, 07:05 PM
I think 2012 he got a 50 gm suspension

spoon
12-11-2013, 07:21 PM
He's on the cc sabathia refuel diet.

A.J.
12-12-2013, 05:37 AM
does he even have that long left in his career ?

Those stem cells seem to have helped.

hanso
12-12-2013, 06:12 AM
This guy signed and will play first. Talk is that Lo-Mo will be traded now for someone at third. There are several teams interested in Morrison they say.

Mariners got him for a RP.

hanso
12-12-2013, 07:46 AM
Heard a second red sox player got pilfered to the yanks, didn't hear who it was.

A.J.
12-12-2013, 08:06 AM
The Sox lost a 3B prospect in the Rule 5 draft, but that was to the O's.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-12-2013, 09:41 AM
Joba to Tigers 1 yr 2.5 million

spoon
12-12-2013, 09:43 AM
Hide the trampolines!

A.J.
12-12-2013, 09:54 AM
Hide the trampolines!

:laugh:

WRESTLINGFAN
12-12-2013, 12:47 PM
Home plate collisions to be banned by 2015 at latest.

ESPN Shows details


http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10121849/mlb-intends-ban-home-plate-collisions-2015

WRESTLINGFAN
12-12-2013, 03:28 PM
M's introduced Cano today he's sporting the big Papi look.

I do wish him well in Seattle as a Yankee fan there's no ill will towards him. There was about 65 million left on the table and he went for the money. Baseball is a business after all.


Should be interesting how much protection Hart and Morrison gives him.

Anyone know more about TaiJuan Walker I heard a few times he's a top pitching prospect and it looks like Seattle won't be moving him

JimBeam
12-13-2013, 10:49 AM
M's introduced Cano today he's sporting the big Papi look.

I do wish him well in Seattle as a Yankee fan there's no ill will towards him. There was about 65 million left on the table and he went for the money. Baseball is a business after all.


Should be interesting how much protection Hart and Morrison gives him.

Anyone know more about TaiJuan Walker I heard a few times he's a top pitching prospect and it looks like Seattle won't be moving him

Except that he said the Yankees disrespected him.

His thinking is he actually took less money from Seattle ( $24 @ year ) than Yankees ( $25 @ year ).

His math is questionable as Seattle tecnically gave him $72 million more by giving the other 3 years.

hanso
12-13-2013, 10:57 AM
M's introduced Cano today he's sporting the big Papi look.

I do wish him well in Seattle as a Yankee fan there's no ill will towards him. There was about 65 million left on the table and he went for the money. Baseball is a business after all.


Should be interesting how much protection Hart and Morrison gives him.

Anyone know more about TaiJuan Walker I heard a few times he's a top pitching prospect and it looks like Seattle won't be moving him

Lo-Mo has potential when he gets to a higher level he gets hurt. This has happened many times.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-13-2013, 01:04 PM
Except that he said the Yankees disrespected him.

His thinking is he actually took less money from Seattle ( $24 @ year ) than Yankees ( $25 @ year ).

His math is questionable as Seattle tecnically gave him $72 million more by giving the other 3 years.

Saw that today

My guess is that he felt disrespected when they pursued Ellsbury. He wanted more job security with 10 years. He saw Seattle offering him 10 years with a full no trade clause and took the offer


I can also see why the Yankees offered 7. They see the A Rod contract as a huge albatross and they didn't want to give a 31 year old a 10 year deal. I also believe that the Pujols contract was a factor. He's not the dominant player he once was. Yankee Brass did not want to take on another 10 year contract.

WRESTLINGFAN
12-20-2013, 11:48 AM
Youklis going to play in Japan for 2014

WRESTLINGFAN
12-24-2013, 08:43 PM
Rakuten agrees to post Tanaka according to multiple sources

keithy_19
12-24-2013, 10:05 PM
Rakuten agrees to post Tanaka according to multiple sources

Good to seem him back in the lime light. He was always one of my favorites growing up.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S80Kf5sqmnE/TYdkuHwl_9I/AAAAAAAAAK0/jAmzIqDE_Ss/s1600/Tatanka.jpg

spoon
12-24-2013, 11:44 PM
Dan Snyder agrees!

hanso
12-25-2013, 04:34 AM
Youklis going to play in Japan for 2014

His team mate came to marlins to play 3rd. ole whats his face was good a few years ago.

Kevin
12-25-2013, 05:46 PM
His dad Isuro "Kamikaze" Tanaka was a great spark plug OF for the Cleveland Indians back in the 90s.

cougarjake13
12-26-2013, 03:29 AM
His dad Isuro "Kamikaze" Tanaka was a great spark plug OF for the Cleveland Indians back in the 90s.



Don't remember that
Must be getting old

realmenhatelife
12-26-2013, 03:41 AM
His dad Isuro "Kamikaze" Tanaka was a great spark plug OF for the Cleveland Indians back in the 90s.

That guy had marbles.

hanso
12-29-2013, 10:20 PM
His team mate came to marlins to play 3rd. ole whats his face was good a few years ago.

Casey McGehee

WRESTLINGFAN
01-08-2014, 09:50 AM
Maddux Glavine and Frank Thomas elected


Biggio misses by 2 votes

spoon
01-08-2014, 08:30 PM
ok with that…probably better with just Maddux and Thomas

hanso
01-09-2014, 04:38 AM
Maddux Glavine and Frank Thomas elected


Biggio misses by 2 votes

Dan Le Batard went on buzzfeed let the fans make his vote for Biggio

WRESTLINGFAN
01-09-2014, 07:24 AM
Dan Le Batard went on buzzfeed let the fans make his vote for Biggio



His vote tally went up so possibly next year.

Piazzas went up, might take a few more tries but he could get in

Snoogans
01-09-2014, 09:11 AM
Dan Le Batard went on buzzfeed let the fans make his vote for Biggio

that isnt even close to what happened. He went on Deadspin and let the readers choose who they wanted to vote for. They actually voted for 10 guys, including the 3 who made it.

Snoogans
01-09-2014, 09:12 AM
Don't remember that
Must be getting old

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Snoogans
01-09-2014, 09:18 AM
ok with that…probably better with just Maddux and Thomas

you really think tom glavine is not a hall of famer?

A.J.
01-09-2014, 09:25 AM
you really think tom glavine is not a hall of famer?

He thinks Glavine is no Dave Stieb.

spoon
01-09-2014, 09:48 AM
you really think tom glavine is not a hall of famer?

not on the level of maddux overall in my mind

didn't say he doesn't deserve it, just thought those two were the main guys

glavine would be the best pitcher available next year

WRESTLINGFAN
01-11-2014, 08:31 AM
A Rod suspended 162 games by arbitrator decision

He plans to take this to federal court


“The number of games sadly comes as no surprise, as the deck has been stacked against me from day one. This is one man’s decision, that was not put before a fair and impartial jury, does not involve me having failed a single drug test, is at odds with the facts and is inconsistent with the terms of the Joint Drug Agreement and the Basic Agreement, and relies on testimony and documents that would never have been allowed in any court in the United States because they are false and wholly unreliable. This injustice is MLB’s first step toward abolishing guaranteed contracts in the 2016 bargaining round, instituting lifetime bans for single violations of drug policy, and further insulating its corrupt investigative program from any variety defense by accused players, or any variety of objective review.

I have been clear that I did not use performance enhancing substances as alleged in the notice of discipline, or violate the Basic Agreement or the Joint Drug Agreement in any manner, and in order to prove it I will take this fight to federal court. I am confident that when a Federal Judge reviews the entirety of the record, the hearsay testimony of a criminal whose own records demonstrate that he dealt drugs to minors, and the lack of credible evidence put forth by MLB, that the judge will find that the panel blatantly disregarded the law and facts, and will overturn the suspension. No player should have to go through what I have been dealing with, and I am exhausting all options to ensure not only that I get justice, but that players’ contracts and rights are protected through the next round of bargaining, and that the MLB investigation and arbitration process cannot be used against others in the future the way it is currently being used to unjustly punish me.

I will continue to work hard to get back on the field and help the Yankees achieve the ultimate goal of winning another championship. I want to sincerely thank my family, all of my friends, and of course the fans and many of my fellow MLB players for the incredible support I received throughout this entire ordeal."

spoon
01-11-2014, 09:56 AM
This injustice is MLB’s first step toward abolishing guaranteed contracts in the 2016 bargaining round, instituting lifetime bans for single violations of drug policy, and further insulating its corrupt investigative program from any variety defense by accused players, or any variety of objective review.

and there's the future angle they worked so hard to find to make this NOT about Arod, but the players…he's willing to spend millions for "the players"…RIGHT

underdog
01-11-2014, 10:04 AM
I hope this goes to federal court and get messy for everyone. Fuck them all.

cougarjake13
01-11-2014, 10:28 AM
His vote tally went up so possibly next year.

Piazzas went up, might take a few more tries but he could get in



Piazza Def has the offensive numbers amongst catchers to get in and I don't recall anyone accusing him of using ped's so he'll probably get in during one of those down years where there isn't a lot of no Brainers

spoon
01-11-2014, 10:29 AM
I hope this goes to federal court and get messy for everyone. Fuck them all.

agreed

spoon
01-11-2014, 10:31 AM
Piazza Def has the offensive numbers to get in and I don't recall anyone accusing him of using ped's so he'll probably get in during one of those down years where there isn't a lot of no Brainers

nope, he has been linked a few times

not as heavily admittedly, as most ties to backne! yet there have been some reports tying him in too, by that I don't mean anything official though

cougarjake13
01-11-2014, 10:36 AM
I hope this goes to federal court and get messy for everyone. Fuck them all.



X2

spoon
01-11-2014, 10:37 AM
X3

fixed that

cougarjake13
01-11-2014, 10:37 AM
nope, he has been linked a few times

not as heavily admittedly, as most ties to backne! yet there have been some reports tying him in too, by that I don't mean anything official though


I know sports talk radio and idiots like us on message boards have speculated but like u said nothing official

Kevin
01-11-2014, 12:26 PM
Tom Glavine is a HOF on his awesome performance against the Marlins that year with the Mets

hanso
01-11-2014, 08:00 PM
MLB channel all Alex all the time.

WRESTLINGFAN
01-12-2014, 04:59 AM
They were milking that all afternoon.

cougarjake13
01-12-2014, 05:37 AM
What else did they have to talk about

spoon
01-12-2014, 08:57 AM
What else did they have to talk about

hot stove, hall of fame, this years champs, next year's season and team?

not this shit

spoon
01-12-2014, 08:59 AM
not as bad as ESPN radio having two fucking topics on my drive this morning…the weather for the NYC Super Bowl hopefully being like today out here…which is fucking tripe, and manning/brady again even though one game isn't even finished, and there are…get this FOUR games either played or about to be played. You know the memo went out like with Tebow, talk Brady/Manning and it's fucking awful, pathetic and horrible sports radio/coverage of the NFL specifically

WRESTLINGFAN
01-12-2014, 03:15 PM
Tonight 60 minutes has Bosch for a sit down

Why wasn't Selig at any of the arbitration ?

I'll add my voice to say fuck MLB

WRESTLINGFAN
01-15-2014, 07:27 AM
Kershaw and LA close to record breaking extension according to Ken Rosenthal. Could be 12 years with an opt out after 5

newport king
01-15-2014, 03:07 PM
30.7MM per year. Teach your kids to pitch lefty.

WRESTLINGFAN
01-15-2014, 03:28 PM
Multiple CY Youngs and ERA titles, Only 25 years old. Potential to be a great signing if he doesn't become a Lincecum

newport king
01-15-2014, 03:32 PM
If Jesus Christ pitched i wouldnt sign him for 7 years at 30MM per

deliciousV
01-15-2014, 03:40 PM
If Jesus Christ pitched i wouldnt sign him for 7 years at 30MM per

that'd be a mistake, he's ambidextrous and has a pick-off move you have to see to believe.

newport king
01-15-2014, 03:42 PM
that'd be a mistake, he's ambidextrous and has a pick-off move you have to see to believe.


Couldnt be better than Pettites move. Fucking balker.

WRESTLINGFAN
01-15-2014, 03:48 PM
Jesus would have one mean slider and curve to go along with his fastball.


I do see a risk factor though especially if Kershaw would need TJ surgery. He'd be making 30.7 to sit out over a year.

Wonder how they are structuring it. Imagine how much he makes in a season if its front loaded

newport king
01-15-2014, 04:32 PM
He can opt out after 5 if its frontloaded. He would be just 30.

Dirtbag
01-15-2014, 06:21 PM
that'd be a mistake, he's ambidextrous and has a pick-off move you have to see to believe.

But he's got lots of issues with his hands.

spoon
01-15-2014, 07:04 PM
Some would say he has "holes" in his game...or wrists/ankles.

WRESTLINGFAN
01-15-2014, 07:25 PM
Wouldn't Jesus be a closer being that he has so many saves ?

hanso
01-15-2014, 09:50 PM
Heard a fun fact on radio today. Two of the Dodgers pitchers are paid more than the whole Marlins roster.

newport king
01-16-2014, 03:34 AM
And theyre in the mix for Tanaka

WRESTLINGFAN
01-16-2014, 09:38 AM
Rays and Price agree to 1 year deal @ 14 million,

deliciousV
01-16-2014, 01:10 PM
Rays and Price agree to 1 year deal @ 14 million,

exactly 1 month after Ray Price died. Coincidence?

hanso
01-16-2014, 08:04 PM
Rays and Price agree to 1 year deal @ 14 million,

See told ya the trade talk is just chatter, they didn't even go to arbitration. Happens every season

WRESTLINGFAN
01-16-2014, 08:35 PM
See told ya the trade talk is just chatter, they didn't even go to arbitration. Happens every season



They'll probably bring it up again mid season. The guys on MLB network need to talk about something in July

WRESTLINGFAN
01-16-2014, 08:40 PM
Heard a fun fact on radio today. Two of the Dodgers pitchers are paid more than the whole Marlins roster.



Kershaw will make about the same salary in 3 games as Stanton made last year

hanso
01-17-2014, 06:24 AM
Kershaw will make about the same salary in 3 games as Stanton made last year

He went to arbitration.

WRESTLINGFAN
01-18-2014, 04:47 PM
Tanaka offered 100 mill by multiple teams including Yanks, Cubs, and LA

spoon
01-19-2014, 06:30 AM
shocking list

spoon
01-21-2014, 06:45 PM
Ha!!

I'd love this just to hear from Kev it's all evened up now.

Tanaka Bidding (http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2014/01/21/report-jays-in-for-sure-on-tanaka/)

Kevin
01-21-2014, 07:33 PM
Ha!!

I'd love this just to hear from Kev it's all evened up now.

Tanaka Bidding (http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2014/01/21/report-jays-in-for-sure-on-tanaka/)

I'm sure there is only 1 bad landing spot for Tanaka...


Cleveland Browns.. No one seems to want to go there.

hanso
01-21-2014, 08:06 PM
He went to arbitration.

Conflicting reports... he signed .. no he didn't.

A.J.
01-22-2014, 06:34 AM
I think it should have gone to spoon. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/commissioner-bud-selig-receives-first-commissioner-bud-selig-013315247--mlb.html)

Earlshog
01-22-2014, 08:49 AM
Bobby Abreu returns to Phillies

the east is ours :surrender:

WRESTLINGFAN
01-22-2014, 08:58 AM
He wasn't old enough for the Yankees?

cougarjake13
01-22-2014, 01:44 PM
I didn't even know he was still an active player

WRESTLINGFAN
01-24-2014, 09:28 AM
Maddux and LaRussa decide not to wear a team cap for HoF

newport king
01-24-2014, 11:10 AM
Without looking it up im 99% sure its not their choice because Boggs pimped himself to the Rays

A.J.
01-24-2014, 11:14 AM
Maddux said he didn't want to slight Cubs fans or Braves fans by having to choose one logo over the other since he was very fond of his time on both teams. Totally respectable thing to do I think.

WRESTLINGFAN
01-24-2014, 12:21 PM
LaRussa had some good years in Oakland. Won a WS which included 3 ALCS in a row.

cougarjake13
01-24-2014, 05:03 PM
Yeh both guys had tremendous success at 2 clubs it woukd be hard to pick and they wont do a split cap

Kevin
01-25-2014, 02:51 PM
Without looking it up im 99% sure its not their choice because Boggs pimped himself to the Rays

I'm sure that was the final straw, but its mostly because players started using it for currency LONG before.

Winfield got 1mil from the Pads to chose them over the Yankees.

cougarjake13
01-25-2014, 03:15 PM
Im sure there were others but winfields the main one I remember

spoon
01-25-2014, 05:29 PM
winfield HATED/HATES George for good reason…he was never going in as a yankee

never

Kevin
01-27-2014, 11:48 PM
winfield HATED/HATES George for good reason…he was never going in as a yankee

never


The million dollars he got didn't hurt things for Mr May either.

spoon
01-28-2014, 12:14 AM
believe what you want

hanso
01-28-2014, 02:56 AM
Zylon / Kevlar baseball caps approved for pitchers.

spoon
02-01-2014, 08:05 AM
http://blogimages.thescore.com/djf/files/2014/01/jaysinjuries.jpg

cougarjake13
02-01-2014, 09:02 AM
Awesome

WRESTLINGFAN
02-06-2014, 12:15 PM
Ralph Kiner dead at 91

He was an announcer for the Mets since the beginning although recent years in a more limited role. Played on some bad Pirates teams but won 7 HR Titles

OGC
02-07-2014, 03:28 PM
Alex Rodriguez decides to take his punishment like a man

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/07/3919916/rodriguez-withdraws-lawsuit-to.html

WRESTLINGFAN
02-12-2014, 10:14 AM
AJ Burnett signs with Phils 1 year 16 million

WRESTLINGFAN
02-15-2014, 10:34 AM
Jim Fregosi dead at 71. He was involved with one of the most famous trades in MLB history as the Angels sent him to the Mets for Nolan Ryan

spoon
02-17-2014, 04:34 PM
Jimenez goes to the O's… (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24446926/report-orioles-ubaldo-jimenez-making-progress-on-four-year-deal)

cougarjake13
02-17-2014, 06:32 PM
Fuck em


They all lie about age anyway

spoon
02-17-2014, 09:49 PM
K

A.J.
02-18-2014, 05:42 AM
Jimenez goes to the O's… (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24446926/report-orioles-ubaldo-jimenez-making-progress-on-four-year-deal)

I hope he can pass the physical.

WRESTLINGFAN
02-21-2014, 05:15 AM
Braves are locking in some of their younger players into multi year deals. Smart move by them. There's been a lot of talk about Trout and extending him long term with figures in the 200-300 mill range

spoon
02-21-2014, 06:17 AM
not always

WRESTLINGFAN
02-21-2014, 06:40 AM
If Freeman doesn't pan out that might be a difficult one to move but the other ones can be traded as their deals aren't putting a huge dent in payroll

WRESTLINGFAN
02-21-2014, 02:09 PM
Jesus Montero not making up for batting barely over .200 last year and involved in the biogenesis scandal , shows up to Mariners camp 40 lbs overweight.