2013-2014 NFL Season Thread

[spoon]

Pagano, go get him!

[spoon]

Nice!

[spoon]

Wooo, keep going back baby!

[spoon]

Pagano, go get him!



Again!

[spoon]

Two of the best punters in the league in this game. What a punt...again.

[spoon]

You know damn well houston will be blitzing now.

[spoon]

And there it is. F!

[spoon]

There's River's bad move.

All square again. Oof.

[spoon]

Terrible choice there.

[spoon]

Offense disappeared, need the tired d to come up big.

[spoon]

Pagano!!! Dial up something quick! They are too tired out there. Need to send someone to do what houston's d just did.

[jennysmurf]

http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/funny-interrupt-posts-seductive-banana-soft-toy-pics.jpg

[spoon]

Definitely better than what is going on in the game.

[PapaBear]

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/69/38/3a/69383a459e320601556520c4993deec2.jpg

[spoon]

Johnson is a beast.

[spoon]

I'll just get it over with...BULLOCKS!

[spoon]

Nooonan!

[spoon]

Noooooonan!!!

[spoon]

Classic chargers. Better than I thought they'd play, but that hurts.

[TripleSkeet]

Wow. That collapse was Norv-worthy.

[hanso]

Could be OT and spoon can post for 2-3 more pages...and i got flak for a few post in a fins thread

[spoon]

Yah but your post weren't in english...were they?

[PapaBear]

Classic chargers. Better than I thought they'd play, but that hurts.

I'm pretty impressed.

Could be OT and spoon can post for 2-3 more pages...and i got flak for a few post in a fins thread

No flak. It's my new favorite thread. Every single post is a gem.

[spoon]

Wow. That collapse was Norv-worthy.

SD had no answer for Johnson and the run game. Then they either ran out of timing plays or just gave up on them and it was foolish.

[Kevin]

Spoon

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfFtRLalvOwI0HJ8rHC45HXCQFXbU8M uP1bT-kLu64kjCWTvPV

[spoon]

Better than the drunk thread!

[spoon]

Kev thinks I believe in SD this year! That's the real funny thing about his post. The chargers put up 14 more points than i thought possible.

[PapaBear]

Better than the drunk thread!
I just gave it a "sticky".

[spoon]

Boooool!

[spoon]

And i meant bool.

[PapaBear]

And i meant bool.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nba.cbk.remember.when.hoops.style/images/manute-bol-muggsy-bogues.jpg

[spoon]

Nice!

[hanso]

Yah but your post weren't in english...were they?

I won't explain myself, but I will tell you this. If it doesn't pertain to you (which I feel the case) then you don't need to know. Also you don't need to troll over it. And bring out those other assad hats that are on my troll list.

You/anyone can go in and give beef pertaining to the team as much as you want. Trolling over something that's not pertinent is a shit move and will get you nowhere with me but maybe on my troll list (ignore list).

I have gone on other teams threads and made (what i thought were friendly) jabs/barbs. But never troll over some bull shit/understanding, I don't care much for that team that's why I gave jabs/barbs.

[spoon]

Ok? More confused now! Yet if u expected me not to fuck with any team page, much less a dolphin page, is just crazy! Relax hansso.

[spoon]

Who knew the dolphin thread was the new "that's life" forum!?

[hanso]

I find the flash cards the eggels use to send play call fascinating. I saw a homer simpson one last night. Also the upscale speed of the chip kelly offense made me take notice of vicks throwing style (no wind up at all). It looks the opposite of tebow (big time wind up)

[CountryBob]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nba.cbk.remember.when.hoops.style/images/manute-bol-muggsy-bogues.jpg

Damn - mugsy could stand up straight and blow Bol

[hanso]

I always thought Manute Bol looked like a spider when he sat on the side court floor waiting to come in the game.

[ozzie]

I can't believe I am saying this.. I want Brandon Jacobs back



If the twitter rumors are true, you may have gotten your wish.

[Snoogans]

If the twitter rumors are true, you may have gotten your wish.

dont worry, im pretty sure he said that before realizing that Brandon Jacobs wasnt the only FA running back in the NFL right now.

[ozzie]

dont worry, im pretty sure he said that before realizing that Brandon Jacobs wasnt the only FA running back in the NFL right now.

Just confirmed

Brandon Jacobs headed for New York Giants reunion (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000242082/article/brandon-jacobs-headed-for-new-york-giants-reunion)

[Snoogans]

Just confirmed

Brandon Jacobs headed for New York Giants reunion (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000242082/article/brandon-jacobs-headed-for-new-york-giants-reunion)

i just came to post that. FUCK. I know wilson fumbled, fine. I dont want this faggot back. We couldnt go get McGahee or something?

[cougarjake13]

I would have rather had Mcgahee but I'm gonna guess coughlin or Reese is gonna say that Jacobs has already been here knows the offense etc


in the office and prly not saying to the media they're also prob thinking Jacobs will just be happy to be back and get playing time unlike last year and Mcgahee may be a prob since he prob wants to start and wouldn't accept a back up role not that he has any leverage

[newport king]

If im David Wilson this signing tells me they have confidence in me. Brandon Jacobs isnt an NFL rb at this point.

NFL coaches have to relax a little when it comes to pulling a rb. Fumbles happen. So do picks. Ridley fumbles in the 2nd and doesnt see the field again. Thats absurd. Wilson fumbles last year, he doesnt sniff the field again till week 9. But dont worry, Eli the golden boy will throw 2 more picks this weekend. (Most turnovers by any QB in the last 5 years.)

Im not saying pull Eli. Im saying give the kid time.

[SonOfSmeagol]

...will get you nowhere with me but maybe on my troll list (ignore list)...

http://ecommerceouttakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/libadgeoh.png

[SonOfSmeagol]

...But dont worry, Eli the golden boy will throw 2 more picks this weekend. (Most turnovers by any QB in the last 5 years.)

Im not saying pull Eli. Im saying give the kid time.

the kid's good, he'll be back and in top form and ready for a knockin when he VISITS WASH DEC 1.

http://www.katzy.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/indian.gif

[SonOfSmeagol]

I find the flash cards the eggels use to send play call fascinating.

agreed! it looked like a lot of work to do and decipher

[Snoogans]

I would have rather had Mcgahee but I'm gonna guess coughlin or Reese is gonna say that Jacobs has already been here knows the offense etc


in the office and prly not saying to the media they're also prob thinking Jacobs will just be happy to be back and get playing time unlike last year and Mcgahee may be a prob since he prob wants to start and wouldn't accept a back up role not that he has any leverage

na, they just said he wasnt completely back from some injuries he was healing from

[cougarjake13]

If im David Wilson this signing tells me they have confidence in me. Brandon Jacobs isnt an NFL rb at this point.

NFL coaches have to relax a little when it comes to pulling a rb. Fumbles happen. So do picks. Ridley fumbles in the 2nd and doesnt see the field again. Thats absurd. Wilson fumbles last year, he doesnt sniff the field again till week 9. But dont worry, Eli the golden boy will throw 2 more picks this weekend. (Most turnovers by any QB in the last 5 years.)

Im not saying pull Eli. Im saying give the kid time.

and neither of the fumbles were him being a showboating douche or not taking care of the football
they were both forcibly striped out as he was Being tackled


and I agree
Jacobs was signed as a stop gap betw now and the time brown can come back

if they signed magahee then he'd have to worry about his spot for this year which is prolly why they didn't sign him or Dwyer or Hightower

[cougarjake13]

Jacobs said he's gonna wear 34
thought about 44 for Bradshaw but said that's his number and couldn't do it

[ozzie]

Jacobs said he's gonna wear 34
thought about 44 for Bradshaw but said that's his number and couldn't do it

I was wondering why he wouldn't wear #27 again, then I saw that a guy on the IR already had it (Stevie Brown).

But, then I see that the other guy on IR (Laron Scott) is #34, so I guess I don't get it.

[spoon]

If im David Wilson this signing tells me they have confidence in me. Brandon Jacobs isnt an NFL rb at this point.

NFL coaches have to relax a little when it comes to pulling a rb. Fumbles happen. So do picks. Ridley fumbles in the 2nd and doesnt see the field again. Thats absurd. Wilson fumbles last year, he doesnt sniff the field again till week 9. But dont worry, Eli the golden boy will throw 2 more picks this weekend. (Most turnovers by any QB in the last 5 years.)

Im not saying pull Eli. Im saying give the kid time.

I agree with this all the way. It seemed silly to pull the RB that was your workhorse and stud all year last season in NE for what essentially was caused by the turf giving out under his feet and no contact so he wasn't exactly covering up/protecting the ball. He fell oddly and it happened, but pulling him was crazy to me. Seeing how Vereen played (preseason and later that game) makes me think they were just waiting for the opp. Yet now you have one back out until AT LEAST week 11 and another scared to death of losing a ball so expect a whole lot of 2.5 yard runs as he puts both hands on the ball and protects it to a fault from here on in. Ridley has to have almost zero confidence now...nice work bb.

[cougarjake13]

I was wondering why he wouldn't wear #27 again, then I saw that a guy on the IR already had it (Stevie Brown).

But, then I see that the other guy on IR (Laron Scott) is #34, so I guess I don't get it.


Stevie brown is a starter and well be a giant for multiple years
I had no clue who the fuck Laron scott
still don't
and most likely won't be back and even if he is no one gives a fuck

[underdog]

I agree with this all the way. It seemed silly to pull the RB that was your workhorse and stud all year last season in NE for what essentially was caused by the turf giving out under his feet and no contact so he wasn't exactly covering up/protecting the ball. He fell oddly and it happened, but pulling him was crazy to me. Seeing how Vereen played (preseason and later that game) makes me think they were just waiting for the opp. Yet now you have one back out until AT LEAST week 11 and another scared to death of losing a ball so expect a whole lot of 2.5 yard runs as he puts both hands on the ball and protects it to a fault from here on in. Ridley has to have almost zero confidence now...nice work bb.

Ridley has fumbled a lot, and he fumbled earlier in the game, but the team recovered it. He was benched after he fumbled a second time. And he was benched last year after fumbling, too.

Vereen and Ridley were drafted the same year (Vereen was actually drafted before him), but Ridley has barely stayed ahead of him. Vereen hasn't really had ball control problems, but he hasn't seen nearly the time Ridley has.

Ridley will be back starting next week. The #2 now is Blount, and he looked terrible last game. No way he's starting (I say that knowing full well BB will probably start him).

[spoon]

Wtf was THAT CALL!

Fucking nfl.

Horrible.

I have NEVER seen that called, EVER. Much less he hardly touched him. What a fucking joke rule.

Too little, too late...yet they probably would have lost regardless. (http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/221/officials-hurt-chargers)

[spoon]

come on man

that's such garbage

[SonOfSmeagol]

you make quite an airtight case with yourself up there! lol totally agree btw!

didn't even realize game was on tonite - forgot - - dam

[Kevin]

What a BS hold call that was

[spoon]

it was

some early odd calls in my mind

[spoon]

thus far geno doesn't look good, but still way better than sanchize

[Kevin]

thus far geno doesn't look good, but still way better than sanchize

Thats like saying someone is way more coherent than Hanso or less racist than WF

[SonOfSmeagol]

I knew "Geno" reminded me of something

In 1985, Paulucci sold his Jeno's Pizza Rolls brand to Pillsbury for $135 million. The Jeno's line of pizza rolls was rebranded as Totino's in 1993...produce about 1.4 million pizzas a day and sell an average of about 240 million each year.

1.4M pizzas/day wtf?

[Kevin]

What we forgot during the ref strike and how awful the scabs were is, the regular refs are pretty damn shitty also.

[spoon]

the afc east has to be the worst division in the nfl right now

[spoon]

afc north perhaps

if pitt and balt are as bad as they looked the first week...it may very well be the worst

miami did beat Cleveland quite easily

[spoon]

this game is BRUTAL

[cougarjake13]

all kinds of fantasy teams are gonna lose big bc of this game
mostly if not all bc of pats

[spoon]

Yah bc we all know tenbats is used to the big jet offensive numbers his homer fantasy picks put up after all these years.

[spoon]

This is really looking like the TB game about now.

[spoon]

Nice pass. You'd figure jets would be better in the air.

[SonOfSmeagol]

I'm gonna go build a model ship. Lemme know when this game's over.

[keithy_19]

Nice pass. You'd figure jets would be better in the air.

Geno airways.

[Kevin]

HA! Mariuchi just said Geno's game was a "Solid" effort... 3 picks is solid effort? I wonder why you were such a terrible coach....

[Kevin]

Good work Furgi.. Punch a guy with a helmet on...

[underdog]

HA! Mariuchi just said Geno's game was a "Solid" effort... 3 picks is solid effort? I wonder why you were such a terrible coach....

It's his 2nd NFL game. He's doing a LOT better than almost anyone expected.

[underdog]

I didn't think the Nick Mangold hit was that bad. Talib was dancing around, Nick dove to knock him down. When he dove at him, Talib wasn't out of bounds.

[Kevin]

It's his 2nd NFL game. He's doing a LOT better than almost anyone expected.

I understand that...

ELI was TERRIBLE his first few games.

But you can't call a 3 pick 26.7 qb rating solid...

He does have SHIT receivers and no running game.. Which is why you get a solid vet and sit him a year or two until he learns and you get better talent.

[spoon]

I didn't think the Nick Mangold hit was that bad. Talib was dancing around, Nick dove to knock him down. When he dove at him, Talib wasn't out of bounds.

Agreed. In fact, he lunged at the spot he was trying to go by in the field, and that when Talib turned out of bounds. Not easy to stop that train with a ton a weight.

[TripleSkeet]

all kinds of fantasy teams are gonna lose big bc of this game
mostly if not all bc of pats

I have a feeling thats gonna be a theme this season with them.

[cougarjake13]

I have a feeling thats gonna be a theme this season with them.



at least til gronk comes back for 3 weeks and breaks his arm again

[hanso]

thus far geno doesn't look good, but still way better than Sanchez

Sanchez QBR 32 --------Geno QBR 27

[SonOfSmeagol]

http://www.laclassematernelle.info/images/indiens/indien-qui-marche.gif

[cougarjake13]

I'm highly offended

[SonOfSmeagol]

he's only 1/16, quite pale, represents diversity

[SonOfSmeagol]

skins got this one - they have solid game plan

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/pinky2000_98/Art-Far%20Side/24bf.jpg

[epo]

I'm not sure why Shanahan is considered a great coach.

[underdog]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/809005517.gif?1379274045

[Kevin]

Sign Kerry Rhodes, I dont care if he is gay, This 2ndary is BRUTAL

[Kevin]

I'm not sure why Shanahan is considered a great coach.

Because He rode the teeth of John Elway

[underdog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUPbuJyCUAA2edy.jpg

[Kevin]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUPbuJyCUAA2edy.jpg

Ugh...

[cougarjake13]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUPbuJyCUAA2edy.jpg


if that doesn't say front runner

[Kevin]

if that doesn't say front runner

Meh... You can't be a cowboy fan and be considered a front runner for like 12yrs now.. they have won like 1 playoff game...

[underdog]

Meh... You can't be a cowboy fan and be considered a front runner for like 12yrs now.. they have won like 1 playoff game...

He's probably a lakers or bulls fan, too. People that age that are fans of the Cowboys and Yankees are assholes.

[spoon]

Sanchez QBR 32 --------Geno QBR 27

bullshit, he was over 80 the week before and let's be honest in that his receivers dropped A LOT and the weather was horrible for a passing attack...good thing the Jets were smart enough to run the ball in such conditions with a rookie qb in his second game. Jets wouldn't have even been in the game if Sanchez was playing. The last time they did with Sanchez vs NE they lost 49-19 in what I think was the but fumble game. Not to mention Geno has an excuse, his arsenal is more depleted with this team and he's in his second game...yet still awful as I mentioned.

[spoon]

http://www.laclassematernelle.info/images/indiens/indien-qui-marche.gif

I'm highly offended

so was anyone who caught either of their games so far

[Kevin]

He's probably a lakers or bulls fan, too. People that age that are fans of the Cowboys and Yankees are assholes.

You probably have to start adding Redsox fans to that list... esp if you win this year..

[spoon]

I'm not sure why Shanahan is considered a great coach.

he always fucking sucked

ALWAYS

[spoon]

Because He rode the teeth of John Elway

and Davis until his migraines took him away

[spoon]

He's probably a lakers or bulls fan, too. People that age that are fans of the Cowboys and Yankees are assholes.

and there are WAY too many yank/boy fans out there too

we had one here too...just happened to love the heat and ND too

[spoon]

You probably have to start adding Redsox fans to that list... esp if you win this year..

ha

you never quit ... or understand

[Kevin]

ha

you never quit ... or understand

Oh right I forgot..

They are the small market, fans that span 5 states, gutty gritty redsox...

HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND!

[spoon]

anything else you want to make up?

[Kevin]

If you don't think that 75% of Sox fans from 04 on are front runners then you are simply retarded.

[Kevin]

But once again YANKEES ARE THE DEBIL!

DAMN THOSE GUYS!

Dodgers... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

YANKEES BAAAAAAAAAAD

[spoon]

75%...got it

[spoon]

But once again YANKEES ARE THE DEBIL!

DAMN THOSE GUYS!

Dodgers... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

YANKEES BAAAAAAAAAAD

more pro dodgers huh?

classic

[Kevin]

What exactly am I making up? FACTS? Reasonable thinking?

New England (/njuːˈɪŋɡlənd/) is a region in the northeastern corner of the United States consisting of the six states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut

I did not count Conn since a lot of it is Yankee country..

So once again, Myopic boy.. FIVE STATES!

But YANKEES ARE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!

[spoon]

that they were EVER my points to you

false, fictitious, made up arguments not even coming close to anything of value or sensical



debil baby!

[spoon]

oh and yah, those five hugely populated states including maine, rhode island new hampshire and vermont!

hilarious

[spoon]

counting the HUGE Massachusetts (6.5 million), you total about 10.7 million people based on 2012 data

NY (state) 19.4 million
NJ 8.8 million
Conn 3.6 million

NY Metro area listed as between 19-22 million people

interesting data, but hardly anyone's point except your backlogged bullshit linked to nothing

Canada has a population of ~ 34 million too so WHAT THE FUCK TORONTO!!!

[Kevin]

Mariners leading the Giants 5-0 in the 7th inning...

[Kevin]

counting the HUGE Massachusetts (6.5 million), you total about 10.7 million people based on 2012 data

NY (state) 19.4 million
NJ 8.8 million
Conn 3.6 million

NY Metro area listed as between 19-22 million people

interesting data, but hardly anyone's point except your backlogged bullshit linked to nothing

Canada has a population of ~ 34 million too so WHAT THE FUCK TORONTO!!!

Lets SIDE STEP the fact that NY has TWO baseball teams...

Lets half that 19.4... 9.2 +4.2 + half of 1.7 850k or so

THAT MAKES 14. 2MILLiON!

Lets see NEW ENGLAND



Connecticut 3,574,097 3,405,565 168,532 4.9%
Maine 1,328,361 1,274,923 53,438 4.2%
Massachusetts 6,547,629 6,349,097 198,532 3.1%
New Hampshire 1,316,470 1,235,786 80,684 6.5%
Rhode Island 1,052,567 1,048,319 4,248 0.4%
Vermont 625,741 608,827 16,914 2.8%

New England 14,444,865+ lets take 1.7 out of Conn its still 12.7mil


ooooooooooooooooops... Guess who's wrong but will find some bullshit to say he is right again...

And also no one in Toronto gives a fuck about the Blue Jays

[spoon]

oh look, half the area roots for the mets, HA!

and also, now "yankee country" counts for Boston?

funny how that works now that the actual number get presented

plus you're batting 0 for 3 with that halving "math"
Lets half that 19.4... 9.2 +4.2 + half of 1.3 650k

one can only ASSUME you think half of 19.4 = 9.2, half of 8.8 = 4.2 and half of 3.6 = 1.3 which somehow gets halved again to 625k! that there is some good shit!

must be albanian math...1 goat + 2 butter churns = your sister

this is fun

[spoon]

Lets SIDE STEP the fact that NY has TWO baseball teams...

Lets half that 19.4... 9.2 +4.2 + half of 1.7 850k or so

THAT MAKES 14. 2MILLiON!

Lets see NEW ENGLAND



Connecticut 3,574,097 3,405,565 168,532 4.9%
Maine 1,328,361 1,274,923 53,438 4.2%
Massachusetts 6,547,629 6,349,097 198,532 3.1%
New Hampshire 1,316,470 1,235,786 80,684 6.5%
Rhode Island 1,052,567 1,048,319 4,248 0.4%
Vermont 625,741 608,827 16,914 2.8%

New England 14,444,865+ lets take 1.7 out of Conn its still 12.7mil


ooooooooooooooooops... Guess who's wrong but will find some bullshit to say he is right again...

And also no one in Toronto gives a fuck about the Blue Jays


nice edit...keep trying!

hahahahaha!

[spoon]

More reasons to LOVE and RESPECT Boston...for Kev (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130915&content_id=60732332&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb)

[underdog]

If you don't think that 75% of Sox fans from 04 on are front runners then you are simply retarded.

But that's not when the Yankees, Cowboys or Lakers were together in their glory days. Your point makes no sense. Why would someone be both a Yankees and Red Sox fan?

[spoon]

shhhh

let him go, he's on a roll

[spoon]

ok

back to fucking football

this Seattle defense looks pretty solid

no who didn't...Eli Manning and his 4 ints

perhaps they'll bring back Jeff Hostetler's mustache since they brought Jacobs back bc an rb fumbled a few??

http://ventrac.com/images/customerprofiles/23/Jeff_Hostetler_3558.jpg

[spoon]

I never thought Pete Caroll would turn this team around, but man has he done a good job

[TripleSkeet]

He's probably a lakers or bulls fan, too. People that age that are fans of the Cowboys and Yankees are assholes.

Lakers, Red Wings, Notre Dame.

[TripleSkeet]

If you don't think that 75% of Sox fans from 04 on are front runners then you are simply retarded.

The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that I would see Red Sox fans everywhere when they were on there 84 year losing streak or whatever it was. Including Philly, NJ, Florida and all over TV and movies.

[spoon]

Wow. That collapse was Norv-worthy.

and that philly defense was Reid-worthy

:innocent:

[hanso]

Was that the attendance means everything argument again? In a city where people live stacked on top of each other? Yawn...scroll scroll scroll.

[Kevin]

The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that I would see Red Sox fans everywhere when they were on there 84 year losing streak or whatever it was. Including Philly, NJ, Florida and all over TV and movies.

I understand they had loyal fans before that...

But you can't deny there has been a huge influx of front runners since 04..

Maybe 75% was way high. id say 40 would be a better #

[hanso]

Was that the attendance means everything argument again? In a city where people live stacked on top of each other? Yawn...scroll scroll scroll.

Added with arguably the best subway system in the country.

[TripleSkeet]

I understand they had loyal fans before that...

But you can't deny there has been a huge influx of front runners since 04..

Maybe 75% was way high. id say 40 would be a better #

Yea but that happens after every team wins a World Series. After 08 I saw alot more Phils fans than before I know that.

[sailor]

Yea but that happens after every team wins a World Series. After 08 I saw alot more Phils fans than before I know that.

People like a bandwagon.

[ozzie]

People like a bandwagon.

The number of Miami Heat fans around here now is nauseating.

[spoon]

It's not the bandwagon so much, as it is to tying one's self to a winning team. People latch on to winners and project as if it ties into them.

[cougarjake13]

ok

back to fucking football

this Seattle defense looks pretty solid

no who didn't...Eli Manning and his 4 ints

perhaps they'll bring back Jeff Hostetler's mustache since they brought Jacobs back bc an rb fumbled a few??

http://ventrac.com/images/customerprofiles/23/Jeff_Hostetler_3558.jpg




na too old


but they should blow in a call to Dave brown kent graham or Danny kanell

[hanso]

It's not the bandwagon so much, as it is to tying one's self to a winning team. People latch on to winners and project as if it ties into them.

Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

John Madden

[spoon]

Ok

[King Imp]

Alright, I have to ask this as the argument really irks me every time it's mentioned on TV.

Why is it that with blows to the head outlawed, everyone says they now have to target the knees? Unless I'm confused on basic anatomy, aren't there areas in between? Umm, like the fucking midsection.

What is so hard about going for this area to try and make a tackle? Why does it have to be either the head or the knees and nothing else according to these "experts"?

[spoon]

We're talking about tackling guys very tough to line up even when in position so it's not like they can just line it up like an archer and a stagnant target.

[hanso]

Alright, I have to ask this as the argument really irks me every time it's mentioned on TV.

Why is it that with blows to the head outlawed, everyone says they now have to target the knees? Unless I'm confused on basic anatomy, aren't there areas in between? Umm, like the fucking midsection.

What is so hard about going for this area to try and make a tackle? Why does it have to be either the head or the knees and nothing else according to these "experts"?

That would be standard tackling procedure. This befuddles me as well.

[ozzie]

We're talking about tackling guys very tough to line up even when in position so it's not like they can just line it up like an archer and a stagnant target.

Agreed.

If you're talking about hits on an upright QB in the pocket, sure, there's a lot of other real estate to aim for.

But if you're talking about hitting a "defenseless" receiver, and if the receiver is going low for a catch, or lowering their head (which is an uncontrollable reaction for most when anticipating a hit), or trying to take down a running back, which most are taught to keep their pad level down at all times.... that doesn't leave the defender many other options but to go low (in the knee area), or else they're risking a fine or suspension by making contact with the head, even when they intended to go for the mid-section or "numbers".

[spoon]

Wow! Norv Turner went to the browns and IMMEDIATELY they improbably find a way to get worse!

First they get away from there bread and butter from the end of last year running richardson...only to get their starting qb injured AND NOW they trade Richardson! Ha! Fucking Browns. Unreal.

[cougarjake13]

That would be standard tackling procedure. This befuddles me as well.



it's not that they're gonna target the knees intentionally but if your trying to avoid up top and now ur aiming for chest area some guys may overshoot and go lower taking out the knees


at end of the day it's a violent sport and there's no way to avoid that contact unless you outlaw tackling
other then that I don't see how you can attempt to fix the issue

[ozzie]

Wow! Norv Turner went to the browns and IMMEDIATELY they improbably find a way to get worse!

First they get away from there bread and butter from the end of last year running richardson...only to get their starting qb injured AND NOW they trade Richardson! Ha! Fucking Browns. Unreal.

Not quite the same deal the Cowboys got for Hershel, but not a bad trade IMO.

I cussed the 'rent richardson pick when it happened, and am really not very sad to see him go now. I'm just not a big believer in wasting a first round pick on a RB.

He wasn't going to make or break this team this year.

Now they get to double up next year, and I'm hoping they can finally do something with those picks.

I'm more puzzled about what Jason Campbell did, or didn't do, to not get the start this week.

[spoon]

colt mccoy II coming right up!


7 f'n picks now in the draft's top 4 rounds...looks like they addressed a need having only 6 up until yesterday

[spoon]

and yes, i do know he was a third rounder...just a point that the browns always find a way

they have been bad for a sooo long since their return now with years and years of top picks...used and given away

but the bottom line is this time it's going to be different and they toss aside a guy who has proven to run well in the NFL with VERY LITTLE HELP

Indy says thanks and enjoy your 22-25th pick where knowing the Browns, they'll take a shittier RB. Even allowing for such a comp would be stupid. I'm sure Turner convinced the coach and team Richardson didn't just want to pass block all day for a shitty qb making shitty passes to a shitty wide receiving crew. Nice work shitland. Just for this, I hope the Indians miss the playoffs and Balt takes the last spot.

[spoon]

Not quite the same deal the Cowboys got for Hershel, but not a bad trade IMO.

I cussed the 'rent richardson pick when it happened, and am really not very sad to see him go now. I'm just not a big believer in wasting a first round pick on a RB.

He wasn't going to make or break this team this year.

Now they get to double up next year, and I'm hoping they can finally do something with those picks.

I'm more puzzled about what Jason Campbell did, or didn't do, to not get the start this week.

if you're a brown fan, i sincerely feel for you

it isn't often a team makes SD look like a well oiled machine/franchise!

as for Campbell, my guess is he played like, well, Campbell

[King Imp]

it's not that they're gonna target the knees intentionally but if your trying to avoid up top and now ur aiming for chest area some guys may overshoot and go lower taking out the knees

But the problem I have is both players and analysts alike have specifically said if they can't go for the head, then they have to go for the knees. Not, "I'm going for the midsection, but I might hit the knees."

How is targeting the knees easier than the midsection?

[hanso]

Campbell>Hoyer he was listed as a 2. Then coach says they were all close 1/2/3.
It's like they want to get the best draft pick next year. But that should go to Jax.

[cougarjake13]

bring in Tebow !!!

[ozzie]

if you're a brown fan, i sincerely feel for you

it isn't often a team makes SD look like a well oiled machine/franchise!

as for Campbell, my guess is he played like, well, Campbell

Unfortunately, yes. Yes, I am.

This fucking franchise should be forced to be called something else. Not the "Browns".

Other than being in the same city, there is zero to tie this team to the one that became the Ravens.

After the leg-up that the NFL gave to Carolina and Jax when they were awarded franchises, with all of the "expansion draft" picks they got from the unprotected players, resulting in immediately legit teams (both made conf champ game in year TWO!)

My dumbass fell right back in love with this new "Browns" team, and having Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark running things... and based on how well the last two expansion teams fared... I had high hopes.

Couldn't have been farther from reality. It started with fucking Tim Couch, and never ended. The only Browns jersey I own now and dare wear in public is a #73 Joe Thomas, one of the only first round picks that has ever worked out for them.

I'm getting older, and more patient, and I'm once again holding out some hope that they will do something with 2 first round picks next year (and like you said, 7 in the first 4 rounds, 10 total? I think). I just want to see them IN a fucking superbowl in my lifetime. Winning one would be a bonus.

[hanso]

Wasn't there a RB named Mack that was good?

[sailor]

Wasn't there a RB named Mack that was good?

Kevin Mack was mediocre.

[ozzie]

Wasn't there a RB named Mack that was good?

You thinking of Kevin Mack?

You're going way back, before the move to Baltimore.

Back when they were making the playoffs and finding ways to blow it in AFC championship games.

[ozzie]

Kevin Mack was mediocre.

He split a lot of carries with Ernest Byner.

They each had over 1000 yards in one season.

Mack made a few pro bowls.

[spoon]

Kevin Mack was mediocre.

plain Kevin way worse

[PapaBear]

"False start... Everybody but the center." Funniest call by a ref in memory! :lol:

[spoon]

"False start... Everybody but the center." Funniest call by a ref in memory! :lol:


It was awesome in itself, but more so bc the announcer just said the same as a setup! Funny stuff as even they didn't think that was coming.

That NFL channel crew has really grown on me...even with that guy's lisp. They do a pretty solid job.

[PapaBear]

It was awesome in itself, but more so bc the announcer just said the same as a setup! Funny stuff as even they didn't think that was coming.

That NFL channel crew has really grown on me...even with that guy's lisp. They do a pretty solid job.
I had to rewind it to make sure they didn't actually alter what the ref said. And the ref looked so serious and matter of fact when he said it.

[Kevin]

plain Kevin way worse

Plain spoon, is bland.

[hanso]

Mack, who helped the Browns make the playoffs in each of his first five seasons, is fifth on the team's all-time rushing yardage list.

Didn't see anything on him w/o first name yesterday when I used the google.

I enjoy hearing Leroy Hoard on my local sports radio show. He seems pretty good on the radio to me.

[SonOfSmeagol]

Megatron Containment Preparation

will be key

[spoon]

Cincy was looking soooo good until that.

GB score coming here fast...no doubt.

[spoon]

even more surprising, the browns!

Hoyer!

[Snoogans]

eli is a fag

[spoon]

dude, your pass protection looks like what Rivers has had the last few years

never good

[spoon]

thoughts on brown right now?

[spoon]

so the cicny o decided they don't like routes...wtf

gb in it despite their D playing great...and special teams

[Snoogans]

how did the giants get so bad? Its the same fuckin guys basically. What the fuck is happening?

I seriously might take Eli out before we get him killed. This is retarded

[hanso]

even more surprising, the browns!

Hoyer!

Yeah I didn't have much stock in him.

[spoon]

Yeah I didn't have much stock in him.

yet they are playing some crazy football bc they have almost NO pressure now

however, Hoyer has indeed looked surprisingly good

[spoon]

as for my Chargers, it takes skill to make Locker look like an all-pro...yet here we are

he's running better than RGIII against SD today = fucking pathetic

how long are you going to not have a read on this part of the Titan game plan Pagano?

make some fucking adjustments for fuck's sake!

[Snoogans]

13 yards in the first half for the giants

[deliciousV]

Can one of you Giants fans tell me what's up with Hakeem Nicks? Is he out for the game?

[spoon]

not a nyg fan, but I do believe he missed some practice this week due to "personal reasons"

perhaps he's not playing for that reason too? or is he bc I haven't been watching that awful game. if he is, perhaps he's not in the game plan that much bc of missing...which seems quite stupid since he's a solid weapon being wasted

[deliciousV]

not a nyg fan, but I do believe he missed some practice this week due to "personal reasons"

perhaps he's not playing for that reason too? or is he bc I haven't been watching that awful game. if he is, perhaps he's not in the game plan that much bc of missing...which seems quite stupid since he's a solid weapon being wasted

I saw the same thing on the FF page, but it said he would be in the lineup. I need that fucker to get me some points.

[spoon]

refs REALLY pissing me off in the SD game

first they call off a clean TD for SD based on a bullshit pick play...the dback sold it like a bad actor, but now they DON'T call pass interference on what should have been a TD where the guy had a hold of the guy and then his jersey and pulled it completely in plain sight and contacted the guy way early to break it up

[spoon]

ok, they just came on the red zone and I definitely saw Nicks in there playing

perhaps this has something to do with it? brutal way to go

Coughlin's Loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/giants-coach-tom-coughlin-brother-dies-sudden-fall-144801884--nfl.html)

[deliciousV]

ok, they just came on the red zone and I definitely saw Nicks in there playing

perhaps this has something to do with it? brutal way to go

Coughlin's Loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/giants-coach-tom-coughlin-brother-dies-sudden-fall-144801884--nfl.html)

fuck, that's terrible. It'd be a nice memorial if he'd get Nicks a few touches.

[spoon]

you sir are AWFUL!

[spoon]

wow giants just didn't show up

0-3

[deliciousV]

you sir are AWFUL!

today I am, it's been a really bad week.

[spoon]

drunk tornado

i read it and it sounds awful

[deliciousV]

drunk tornado

i read it and it sounds awful

:lol: perfect description!

[spoon]

it's official

sd makes any team's qb look like gold


F

[KnoxHarrington]

Holy shit that Bengals/Packers game was crazy as hell.

[spoon]

sure was

can't believe you lose the game on a possible game clinching first down run and fumble 6 it to lose

cincy's D won that game and by the score you'd never know it

[KnoxHarrington]

sure was

can't believe you lose the game on a possible game clinching first down run and fumble 6 it to lose

cincy's D won that game and by the score you'd never know it

Yeah, the Bengals D stepped up and got them through that period when the Bengals turned it over 4 times in a row. The Packers could have easily opened up a 3 or 4 touchdown lead after that.

[underdog]

even more surprising, the browns!

Hoyer!

Former Patriot great!

[spoon]

just another michigan (st) steal by the pats...just no room right now

not sure how he never got a good shot with all the tripe they had in zona

Ne and Pitt a get

[spoon]

tannehill with a very nice pass to get the lead on the falcons!

wow

[spoon]

man, nice to see the 49ers getting stomped

never got the IMMEDIATE over the top LOVE of their qb's game, and Alex Smith is 3-0 by the way

kaepernick now with 2 awful games out of 3 thus far

[cougarjake13]

I bet the giants miss Bradshaw now


although with that o line I don't think it'd matter


maybe it's time for coughlin to go
I'll take a 6-10 year if it means we get cowher as the rumors suggest

[spoon]

this cbs crew SUCKS calling the bill game

now I know Johnson can be an ass, but when he got a personal foul pen for getting in the face of Wilson who has been taking cheap shots all day and getting away with it the crew just destroyed him and it was sooo stupid and he's a joke

now wilson does BACK TO BACK personal fouls on Wilson and it's "the passion of this game" and when he gets put on the sideline they hardly say a thing outside of he needs to cool down

oh and it helped the bills go RIGHT DOWN THE FIELD and score plus 2 to tie it.

hope the jets lose here big

[spoon]

I bet the giants miss Bradshaw now


although with that o line I don't think it'd matter


maybe it's time for coughlin to go
I'll take a 6-10 year if it means we get cowher as the rumors suggest

might not be that far off to be honest

[spoon]

can't believe the Bills keep giving up such bad deep tds to THE JETS!?

[SonOfSmeagol]

http://cdn.pogocheats.net/forum/Smileys/sofrayt/indian.gif

[cougarjake13]

seriously ?

no one in here to rant about giants ?


yeh I kinda don't care either
feels like the pre 2000s

well there's always next year

[Kevin]

seriously ?

no one in here to rant about giants ?


yeh I kinda don't care either
feels like the pre 2000s

well there's always next year

They don't care, why Should I?

No team should have Kevin Gilbride as their O coord

[newport king]

So it took the NFL, what? 1 week to figure out Chip Kelly's bullshit offense? Have fun coaching at NC State. And at 42-13 maybe its time to stop running the ball. (Im not even an Eagles fan)

[KnoxHarrington]

The Browns have taken the lead in the AFC North, and that's such a dogshit division this year they might hold on.

[PapaBear]

Watching Pats/Falcons... I don't think I've ever seen this before. Brady calls the play, and the center turns around and says "What?"

[cougarjake13]

They don't care, why Should I?

No team should have Kevin Gilbride as their O coord


is amazing how evident that is with their play and motions on the field
like they're still in offseason ota's

[Kevin]

is amazing how evident that is with their play and motions on the field
like they're still in offseason ota's

Eh curse of the Host SuperBowl team

We get a good pick and Gilbride gets fired.

[spoon]

Watching Pats/Falcons... I don't think I've ever seen this before. Brady calls the play, and the center turns around and says "What?"


How about the huge play that bb wanted to challenge but he couldn't bc the replay vid wasn't working!? Wtf was that!? Seriously nfl?! Wow.

[spoon]

Isn't it fun when your qb gets zero protection, you have no run game and your oc is an idiot?!! Not on manning completely just as it wasn't on Rivers. You get that yet?

[spoon]

Eh curse of the Host SuperBowl team

We get a good pick and Gilbride gets fired.


Dude, this has to be the end of coughlin. Lucky 2 SBs with the hot almost .500 teams, so walk off into the sunset as he's fucking old and about done. Cowher soon.

[PapaBear]

How about the huge play that bb wanted to challenge but he couldn't bc the replay vid wasn't working!? Wtf was that!? Seriously nfl?! Wow.
That was pretty fucked up. But that "what" play was just funny as SHIT! I had to rewind it a couple of times to make sure I was actually seeing/hearing that.

[Kevin]

Dude, this has to be the end of coughlin. Lucky 2 SBs with the hot almost .500 teams, so walk off into the sunset as he's fucking old and about done. Cowher soon.


Yeah I would think so.

[joeyballsack]

Isn't it fun when your qb gets zero protection, you have no run game and your oc is an idiot?!! Not on manning completely just as it wasn't on Rivers. You get that yet?

No run game, what about LT's time in SD ?

[spoon]

So we're going way back now? Why stop there, let's go to the jams brooks and chuck muncie days too while we're at it. Rivers almost never had a good run game and he was assaulted the last few years bc of it, an awful line and coach who made zero adjustments in play calling. THAT is the point.

[TripleSkeet]

As bad as the Eagles have been playing, they are still one game out of first in the division and play 3 shitty teams in a row now.

[ozzie]

'rent richardson averaging a whopping 2.9 yds per carry for Indy.

Meanwhile, the Browns are 2 - 0 without him.

[PapaBear]

As bad as the Eagles have been playing, they are still one game out of first in the division and play 3 shitty teams in a row now.
So are the Skins. And Dallas plays Denver next week.

[cougarjake13]

sadly at 0-4 giants are only 2 out

this is 2010 NFC west levels of awful

[KnoxHarrington]

Wow, Tony Romo is just the king of fail.

[CountryBob]

HAHA! Romo blows it again!:clap:

[Kevin]

Only Romo can have a bad 500yd 5td game..

[KnoxHarrington]

Only Romo can have a bad 500yd 5td game..

The only way that could have been any better is if he'd actually broken the NFL record for passing in a game before that happened. I think he only needed about 40 more yards.

[Snoogans]

The only way that could have been any better is if he'd actually broken the NFL record for passing in a game before that happened. I think he only needed about 40 more yards.

i would give him a pass today. You could throw 1000 INTs and if you score 48 points as an offense, you did your fuckin job. Besides, every QB throws bad INTs late in games tryin to make plays. Eli did it 3 times just fuckin today

[spoon]

i would give him a pass today. You could throw 1000 INTs and if you score 48 points as an offense, you did your fuckin job. Besides, every QB throws bad INTs late in games tryin to make plays. Eli did it 3 times just fuckin today

I would agree, and do in theory, but the fucking game was tied and he has to understand this. That pick was horrendous and classic Romo when it counts Romo. Fail.

[TripleSkeet]

i would give him a pass today. You could throw 1000 INTs and if you score 48 points as an offense, you did your fuckin job. Besides, every QB throws bad INTs late in games tryin to make plays. Eli did it 3 times just fuckin today

I understand that but his timing is just impeccable. Just Romo being Romo. LMAO

[spoon]

Or you can just do it at the beginning and end like Rivers and just keep the game on constant flush. Such a brutal game to watch. The line and run game are fucking horrible.

[cougarjake13]

at this point the giants should just worry about looking at guys on the roster they may or may not wanna keep and just go 3-13 and get a top five pick and look forward to a hopeful one year off rebound

I don't think they'll fire coughlin but he may just say fuck it and retire but I think he's too prideful to go out like this so maybe they'll make him change coordinators

[spoon]

Coughlin is gone. He was lucky to get this far. Yah i know two titles but he's done, especially with Cowher waiting patiently in the wings.

[spoon]

Yet u do have a point, his coordinators are not good.

[Snoogans]

Coughlin isnt going anywhere unless he quits. they could go 0-16 and he wouldnt be fired, thats just how the giants are.

The coordinators might, and probably should, go. Especially fuckin Gilbride. Fewel isnt that great, but at least he has the excuse of the GM giving him basically nothing to work with in the middle and back of the defense

[spoon]

still think he's gone before the start of next year

and gruden, so tough to listen to during these games

i thought it would get better and perhaps I'd learn to ignore his idiocy, but alas, it is not the case. In fact, it's worse.

[cougarjake13]

still think he's gone before the start of next year

and gruden, so tough to listen to during these games

i thought it would get better and perhaps I'd learn to ignore his idiocy, but alas, it is not the case. In fact, it's worse.



he literally just started praising the falcons defense and then geno smith in the same sentence watching the same play

[cougarjake13]

still think he's gone before the start of next year
.

unless he decides to quit I don't see the giants forcing him out or firing him

[Kevin]

Coughlin isnt going anywhere unless he quits. they could go 0-16 and he wouldnt be fired, thats just how the giants are.

The coordinators might, and probably should, go. Especially fuckin Gilbride. Fewel isnt that great, but at least he has the excuse of the GM giving him basically nothing to work with in the middle and back of the defense

I would have agreed if the owners and GM did not issue an ultimatum that things have to stop going the way they had been going. Mainly the 2nd half swoons.

As for the talent. Sure the DBs and LBs are not that good, but where they do have talent on is the D line and they are just not performing. That falls under the coordinator and ultimately the coach.

When the Dline gets no pressure whatsoever, I do not care who is in the 2nd and 3rd levels, you will get beat. These QBs have time to make a sandwich out there.

Coughlin should have known especially after last year that Gilbride was just a putrid OC. But he still kept him. The offense has had way to much talent to struggle to score they way they have had under Gilbride.

Also I remember when Tom came in he made a snide remark about injuries and it being connected to coaching and preparation. Well that has been getting progressively worse each year with this year culminating to disaster levels.

There is a difference on going 2-14 and just being terrible and there is a difference on going 2-14 and being just a clusterfuck with preparation, play calling and effort. Jags are just a terrible football team, Giants are a disgrace of a football team.

For those reasons, and Cowher who is a guy who the Giants feel is a "Giants" guy, and him being on their family team in the Steelers, waiting in the wings, I think Coughlin is gone, If this play continues.

[spoon]

serious question

taking bias out of it, what team is the biggest letdown thus far?

Pittsburgh Rapists, Washington Racists, New York Coke & Swiss Lines, The Houston Pick 6's or Atlanta Melted Ices IF they loose today?

[spoon]

unless he decides to quit I don't see the giants forcing him out or firing him

PLENTY of guys "decide to retire/quit" but aren't the ones making that call

he's gone in my mind...just a good time to reset and he's not long for coaching even IF he surprises us for the second half. he'd almost have to go 10-1/9-2 (BDC special) and make the playoffs to stave this off in my mind, and it isn't happening.

[PapaBear]

serious question

taking bias out of it, what team is the biggest letdown thus far?

Pittsburgh Rapists, Washington Racists, New York Coke & Swiss Lines, The Houston Pick 6's or Atlanta Melted Ices IF they loose today?
No one with half a brain expected anything out of NYG (or did you mean NYJ? Either way.. doesn't matter) or PIT. ATL is a toss up. I don't know much about Houston. No one besides Skins fans ever think they will amount to anything.

[Kevin]

serious question

taking bias out of it, what team is the biggest letdown thus far?

Pittsburgh Rapists, Washington Racists, New York Coke & Swiss Lines, The Houston Pick 6's or Atlanta Melted Ices IF they loose today?

I don't think Pitt was really slated to be any good no? With their aging D and losses to FA. You had to see the let down of Wash after the RG3 injury.The others have not shown they could make it to the Next level.

So I say the Giants.

[Kevin]

No one with half a brain expected anything out of NYG (or did you mean NYJ? Either way.. doesn't matter) or PIT. ATL is a toss up. I don't know much about Houston. No one besides Skins fans ever think they will amount to anything.

Let me ask you this.. When HAS anyone expected the Giants to do anything?

Every year including the SB ones the Giants have been picked to be mid pack.

And even on both playoff runs, they were picked against in every round...

[PapaBear]

Let me ask you this.. When HAS anyone expected the Giants to do anything?

Every year including the SB ones the Giants have been picked to be mid pack.

And even on both playoff runs, they were picked against in every round...
If you're a fan of any other NFC East team, you almost NEVER count out the Giants.

[spoon]

No one with half a brain expected anything out of NYG (or did you mean NYJ? Either way.. doesn't matter) or PIT. ATL is a toss up. I don't know much about Houston. No one besides Skins fans ever think they will amount to anything.

The Giants may not have been SB favs, but surely contenders for the playoffs as is/was Pitt simply based on vet SB MVP QBs leading what seemed to be solid teams. As for the skins, PLENTY were on their hype train even though I'm still convinced they were smoke and mirrors last year and Atlanta and Houston were clear SB top teams according to odds, despite iffy D for Atlanta and Schaub at QB for Houston. They don't have to be winless to be disappointing. I hate the Jets, but they are EASILY overachieving and Rex/MM deserve a ton of credit. For a guy about to be out of a job, he's getting a ton out of that team.

[spoon]

I don't think Pitt was really slated to be any good no? With their aging D and losses to FA. You had to see the let down of Wash after the RG3 injury.The others have not shown they could make it to the Next level.

So I say the Giants.

Again, sure Pitt wasn't expected to light up the league just like NE this year, but look at the difference with vet qbs and very good coaching. Pitt with no wins at this point is a HUGE disappointment in a division with a Trent Richardson-less Browns tied for the lead.

[cougarjake13]

serious question

taking bias out of it, what team is the biggest letdown thus far?

Pittsburgh Rapists, Washington Racists, New York Coke & Swiss Lines, The Houston Pick 6's or Atlanta Melted Ices IF they loose today?


has to be Houston as they were favored by some to make Super Bowl
close second would be Atlanta

[cougarjake13]

PLENTY of guys "decide to retire/quit" but aren't the ones making that call

.

I agree that happens

just not likely in this situation but well nvr know

[PapaBear]

The Giants may not have been SB favs, but surely contenders for the playoffs as is/was Pitt simply based on vet SB MVP QBs leading what seemed to be solid teams. As for the skins, PLENTY were on their hype train even though I'm still convinced they were smoke and mirrors last year and Atlanta and Houston were clear SB top teams according to odds, despite iffy D for Atlanta and Schaub at QB for Houston. They don't have to be winless to be disappointing. I hate the Jets, but they are EASILY overachieving and Rex/MM deserve a ton of credit. For a guy about to be out of a job, he's getting a ton out of that team.
I was going to add "sports TV talking heads" to "Skins fans", but I didn't want to five any of them credit for having worthwhile opinions.

[PapaBear]

And as for disappointment.. I'd like to reiterate how much I fucking HATE picking (win or lose) any Chargers or Bengals game. For YEARS! :furious:

[Kevin]

Again, sure Pitt wasn't expected to light up the league just like NE this year, but look at the difference with vet qbs and very good coaching. Pitt with no wins at this point is a HUGE disappointment in a division with a Trent Richardson-less Browns tied for the lead.

I have not watched any steeler games or highlights.

So I ask, are they just underachieving or are they just a mess.

Because the Giants are just an utter mess.

[PapaBear]

Technical issues, but we haven't missed anything? The fucking half started without a kick off shown! Who are you to decide if I've missed anything? Just admit you fucked up!

[Kevin]

So I read the Headline Mathews out at least a month..

I automatically thought Ryan...

Surprisingly its Clay..

[Kevin]

Odd..

I can watch the game online on the main page but when I pop it up and try, it says its blacked out.

[spoon]

has to be Houston as they were favored by some to make Super Bowl
close second would be Atlanta

I tend to agree, especially when you add in how they actually SHOULD have lost both the SD and Indy games. They won both on the last play of the game after being down bad and one in OT. Of their three losses, two were blow outs and the third a loss at home after a HUGE lead. They are in trouble as Schaub looks terrible and the D isn't playing well overall.

[spoon]

I have not watched any steeler games or highlights.

So I ask, are they just underachieving or are they just a mess.

Because the Giants are just an utter mess.

some similarities really, bc up until last week (4) they had no rushing game and terrible pass blocking

now with Bell it will surely get better and I expect a healthy rebound soon

enough to get it the race? that depends on how bad the rest of the division plays

the pitt bye week was not kind as all their competition won to go over .500 (3-2)...still only 2 out in the loss column (0-4)

[spoon]

So I read the Headline Mathews out at least a month..

I automatically thought Ryan...

Surprisingly its Clay..

oh not so fast, Ryan got a concussion last night so he may very well be out TOO

it's his annual mid-season siesta for this MONUMENTAL AJ SMITH BUST

[Kevin]

some similarities really, bc up until last week (4) they had no rushing game and terrible pass blocking

now with Bell it will surely get better and I expect a healthy rebound soon

enough to get it the race? that depends on how bad the rest of the division plays

the pitt bye week was not kind as all their competition won to go over .500 (3-2)...still only 2 out in the loss column (0-4)

I think same with Giants sadly only 2 out

[spoon]

That's what i meant by some similarities.

[cougarjake13]

new pro bowl uni's

kinda looks like Oregon


http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24050978/nfl-announces-new-pro-bowl-uniforms-for-2014

[ozzie]

new pro bowl uni's

kinda looks like Oregon


http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24050978/nfl-announces-new-pro-bowl-uniforms-for-2014

Awful.

And really? No AFC vs NFC? Now they'll have "captains" picking their teams?

Not that I ever watch this thing anyway, but this is just getting silly.