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GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 12:28 PM
You do realize the President cant just declare war, in fact 29 Democrats among them Biden, Clinton, and Kerry all voted for the war in Iraq.

But why let things like facts get in the way of things when you just toss out ignorant statements

yeah because the republican president lied about Weapons of mass destruction

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

nothing you can say will make me believe that if a Democrat was in office they would've started that retarded ass war

Knowledged_one
10-15-2008, 12:37 PM
yeah because the republican president lied about Weapons of mass destruction

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

nothing you can say will make me believe that if a Democrat was in office they would've started that retarded ass war

1. That wasnt the only reason that the war started

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

2. And because of the retarded ass Democrat in office before bush the two towers were taken down by terrorists

But the point is that the democrat who ran against bush in 2004 even voted for the war

But that detracts from the point you made in the first statement which was completely ignorant on your part, like i said making up things doesnt make them fact

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 12:45 PM
2. And because of the retarded ass Democrat in office before bush the two towers were taken down by terrorists



oh wow..you're one of those people

*collar fix*

ok..you're beloved republican party can't do no wrong. Every problem in the country was either started under Clinton or Carter...the rest of the past 34 years was all the Republicans saving us and doing everything to hold us together

have fun reading your right wing books and radio and not having original thoughts. Just repeat what you hear other people say...if someone else has already said it at least you have someone to agree with!

everyone else sees where you come from with your ideology..its a dime a dozen and its boring and predictable

i hold whoever is in the captain's seat responsible when shit goes down. In the past 8 years that has been a republican..no matter whichever ways you convince yourself how to blame anyone else than your beloved team, thats how i feel

jetdog
10-15-2008, 12:48 PM
Wasn't the dumbass dem president before W, harshly criticized by the Republican congress for pursuing Bin Laden? And wasn't W continually warned about Al Quaeda by Richard Clark and others and paid no interest whatsoever in them?

And didn't the congress vote to give the president the authority to declare war, not vote for the war? This is an important distinction, as the "authority" could have been wielded as a diplomatic tool.

But maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about.

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 12:52 PM
Wasn't the dumbass dem president before W, harshly criticized by the Republican congress for pursuing Bin Laden? And wasn't W continually warned about Al Quaeda by Richard Clark and others and paid no interest whatsoever in them?

And didn't the congress vote to give the president the authority to declare war, not vote for the war? This is an important distinction, as the "authority" could have been wielded as a diplomatic tool.

But maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about.

anyone who pulls the "I blame bill clinton for 9/11" is so far gone into their conservative flag waving that its worthless to have a discussion

I like logical people that can have views on anything..but to be one of those "Clinton is to blame for 9/11 people" you've just brainwashed yourself. A logical thinking citizen wouldn't put that together by themselves..its an idea thought up my the right spin and bought up by people who want their team to win

Knowledged_one
10-15-2008, 12:55 PM
oh wow..you're one of those people

*collar fix*

ok..you're beloved republican party can't do no wrong. Every problem in the country was either started under Clinton or Carter...the rest of the past 34 years was all the Republicans saving us and doing everything to hold us together

have fun reading your right wing books and radio and not having original thoughts. Just repeat what you hear other people say...if someone else has already said it at least you have someone to agree with!

everyone else sees where you come from with your ideology..its a dime a dozen and its boring and predictable

i hold whoever is in the captain's seat responsible when shit goes down. In the past 8 years that has been a republican..no matter whichever ways you convince yourself how to blame anyone else than your beloved team, thats how i feel

I will, but you have fun being completely ignorant of what you talk about

and i dont repeat what other people say and thats a terribly lame arguement to make you are a dullard who throws out idiotic statements that arent even the least bit factual.

And strike 3 i dont read any kind of "right-wing" literature i have better things to do with my time, like argue with a complete idiot with no factual thoughts rolling around in his myopic brain

Knowledged_one
10-15-2008, 12:56 PM
anyone who pulls the "I blame bill clinton for 9/11" is so far gone into their conservative flag waving that its worthless to have a discussion

I like logical people that can have views on anything..but to be one of those "Clinton is to blame for 9/11 people" you've just brainwashed yourself. A logical thinking citizen wouldn't put that together by themselves..its an idea thought up my the right spin and bought up by people who want their team to win

yeah keep throwing out buzz words to make yourself seem intelligent but trust me it doesnt work you are like Darnell in The Program

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 12:57 PM
I will, but you have fun being completely ignorant of what you talk about

and i dont repeat what other people say and thats a terribly lame arguement to make you are a dullard who throws out idiotic statements that arent even the least bit factual.

And strike 3 i dont read any kind of "right-wing" literature i have better things to do with my time, like argue with a complete idiot with no factual thoughts rolling around in his myopic brain

you through in so much insults and name calling "ingnorant" "dullard" "complete idiot" because you know i'm right. I'm so right that you have to get personal. Its the oldest messageboard psychology that exists

but then again, what do i know? I think Bill Clinton wasn't to blame for 9/11

mikeyboy
10-15-2008, 12:58 PM
I will, but you have fun being completely ignorant of what you talk about

and i dont repeat what other people say and thats a terribly lame arguement to make you are a dullard who throws out idiotic statements that arent even the least bit factual.

And strike 3 i dont read any kind of "right-wing" literature i have better things to do with my time, like argue with a complete idiot with no factual thoughts rolling around in his myopic brain

Are you able to argue a point without name calling? Seriously. It only hurts your own arguments when you do that.

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 01:00 PM
Are you able to argue a point without name calling? Seriously. It only hurts your own arguments when you do that.

wow, Mikeyboy has the same views as me. I should be a ronfez.net admin!

Knowledged_one
10-15-2008, 01:05 PM
Are you able to argue a point without name calling? Seriously. It only hurts your own arguments when you do that.

From Websters

1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2: unaware , uninformed

So when he made this statement

from that war that HIS beloved republican party started

He was ignorant

But i tell you what Mikey since you obviously like to stalk my posts either ban me or just ignore me I am sick of everytime i post something you seem to be ready to pounce on that statement and you do it in multiple threads

mikeyboy
10-15-2008, 01:09 PM
From Websters

1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2: unaware , uninformed

So when he made this statement

from that war that HIS beloved republican party started

He was ignorant

But i tell you what Mikey since you obviously like to stalk my posts either ban me or just ignore me I am sick of everytime i post something you seem to be ready to pounce on that statement and you do it in multiple threads

Bullshit. I don't stalk your posts. I read posts, and when I see you acting like an asshole, I'll call you out on it. Unfortunately, if you feel it happens a lot, it's probably because you do it a lot. If you can't argue your points without resorting to personal attacks, don't argue your points at all. This isn't some laser focused harassment that applies only to you. It's a rule that all of the members of this forum are governed by (and there are of course exceptions for good natured ball-busting). Most people seem to be able to handle this rule just fine.

jetdog
10-15-2008, 01:17 PM
Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 215 6 2
Democratic 82 126 1
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 297 133 3

I'm gonna go ahead and award the responsibility of starting the war to the republicans.

KnoxHarrington
10-15-2008, 01:24 PM
Of course Clinton's to blame for 9/11! It wasn't like Bush had a report called "Al-Qaida Plans Imminent Attack on US" on his desk at the time or anything!

Oh wait...

Furtherman
10-15-2008, 01:26 PM
Even if Clinton took out Bin Laden when he had the chance, the attack still would have happened. There would just be another terrorist at the top of the FBI Most Wanted list.

booster11373
10-15-2008, 01:35 PM
Don't Conservative Republicans love to point out whiny liberals? and tell tehm to suck it up and all that?

PhilDeez
10-15-2008, 01:36 PM
i hold whoever is in the captain's seat responsible when shit goes down. In the past 8 years that has been a republican..no matter whichever ways you convince yourself how to blame anyone else than your beloved team, thats how i feel

Keep that in mind when Obama is buried under the pile of dogshit that he, or I guess still possibly McCain, is going to be left to contend with while trying to push forward a progressive agenda.

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 01:44 PM
Keep that in mind when Obama is buried under the pile of dogshit that he, or I guess still possibly McCain, is going to be left to contend with while trying to push forward a progressive agenda.

in 100% honesty, I'll say "whoseever in the captain's seat deserves the blame" when republicans through out the "bill clinton caused 9/11" rhetoric but besides that i'm in the camp of "blaming other Americans for 9/11 is kinda sick". But blaming Clinton is sick AND crazy

and i am an asshole. True, i plan on voting for Obama (even though i haven't gotten anything back on my absentee ballot) but when fucked up things happen in the whitehouse while he's in "the captain's seat" i'll blame him too. Unfortunately theres only been republicans in the whitehouse as long as i've been posting on messageboards

PhilDeez
10-15-2008, 01:55 PM
in 100% honesty, I'll say "whoseever in the captain's seat deserves the blame" when republicans through out the "bill clinton caused 9/11" rhetoric but besides that i'm in the camp of "blaming other Americans for 9/11 is kinda sick". But blaming Clinton is sick AND crazy

and i am an asshole. True, i plan on voting for Obama (even though i haven't gotten anything back on my absentee ballot) but when fucked up things happen in the whitehouse while he's in "the captain's seat" i'll blame him too. Unfortunately theres only been republicans in the whitehouse as long as i've been posting on messageboards

On another note, my 4 year old son just became obsessed with your picture - I assume it is you - with Dave. He keeps screaming at me, "let me see that funny guy!" You've earned a new fan.

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 01:59 PM
On another note, my 4 year old son just became obsessed with your picture - I assume it is you - with Dave. He keeps screaming at me, "let me see that funny guy!" You've earned a new fan.

cool..its good to expose your son of a picture of two heterosexual men expressing their manlove with eachother

CofyCrakCocaine
10-15-2008, 02:06 PM
I would recommend that GAZ and Knowledged_One go to each other's houses and play 'Learn!' by the fireside each night for the rest of the semester. Syllabus includes The Looming Tower - and that's it. Then the two of you should decide if any one president actually can be blamed for 9-11 or if blame (if there is any UTILITY WHATSOEVER to assigning blame at this stage that is) rests with more than one administration.

Incidentally I share most of Gaz's stated viewpoints in this thread. Shock.

Back to the topic... Tony C's economic/political views are more of a Social Darwinist spin... and just as outdated and retarded as that movement was.

He's still great on the radio when he isn't boring me with his FOX News-ish simplicity.

TheMojoPin
10-15-2008, 02:13 PM
I would recommend that GAZ and Knowledged_One go to each other's houses and play 'Learn!' by the fireside each night for the rest of the semester. Syllabus includes The Looming Tower - and that's it. Then the two of you should decide if any one president actually can be blamed for 9-11 or if blame (if there is any UTILITY WHATSOEVER to assigning blame at this stage that is) rests with more than one administration.

An amazing, invaluable book.

HBox
10-15-2008, 02:28 PM
Anthony is an incredibly selfish person. Everything in his life is better understood remembering this.

zildjian361
10-15-2008, 03:53 PM
Sorry i can't find anything wrong with Ants lifestyle. i wish i had it,but i dont drive:drunk::smoke:

GreatAmericanZero
10-15-2008, 03:55 PM
Sorry i can't find anything wrong with Ants lifestyle. i wish i had it,but i dont drive:drunk::smoke:

i think the point is...recently Ant has been talking about politics and what he believes is good for "America"

Thats not the case

All Anthony cares about is whats good for Anthony

thats why when he speaks about how certain policies are going to effect the average under250k/yr voter, its bullshit, cuz he doesn't care about them. He cares about himself

MisterSmith
10-15-2008, 04:55 PM
i think the point is...recently Ant has been talking about politics and what he believes is good for "America"

Thats not the case

All Anthony cares about is whats good for Anthony

thats why when he speaks about how certain policies are going to effect the average under250k/yr voter, its bullshit, cuz he doesn't care about them. He cares about himself

Wow, very well put. I think you crystallized what it is about Anthony's arguments that bugs me the most. :smoke:

YourAmishDaddy
10-15-2008, 09:31 PM
I'm at the point now of just turning the radio anytime the name "Obama" is spoken on the show.

I sincerely love Anthony on the show, it's just when he rants about this stuff it's like watching a sick friend make an ass of himself in public.

I just can't do it anymore. And for the sake of not being called a hater or whatever I'd rather just not listen.

vagina envy
10-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Two things guide Ants political opinions, Greed and Guns. He talks real loud about it but uses little to no logic. Its absurd.

booster11373
10-16-2008, 08:55 AM
It was no taxation without representation not no taxation

We all live in a society built on the backs of those who have come before us, try as you might no one can do it alone anymore. We have a responsibility to pay taxes to better our society conversely lawmakers have the responsibility to make sure that money is collected fairly and spent wisely if not then its the citizens responsibility to vote differently.

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 09:07 AM
loved how quickly Opie was convinced to vote McCain instead this morning. But Jimmy said it right, most people don't care about what is good or right for all of America but rather what is best for themselves. Human nature.

skyscraper
10-16-2008, 09:17 AM
loved how quickly Opie was convinced to vote McCain instead this morning. But Jimmy said it right, most people don't care about what is good or right for all of America but rather what is best for themselves. Human nature.

well, you say in your own signature that you hate America, so how can you come down on people for voting for their own self-interest?

Heather 8
10-16-2008, 09:22 AM
well, you say in your own signature that you hate America, so how can you come down on people for voting for their own self-interest?

Actually that's her mod quote, which means a mod put it there.

mikeyboy
10-16-2008, 09:23 AM
well, you say in your own signature that you hate America, so how can you come down on people for voting for their own self-interest?

It's not her sig. It's her mod quote, which gets set by mods and admins, which means it was something taken out of context and assigned to her.

Heather 8
10-16-2008, 09:33 AM
Sorry, mikey, did I say it wrong? :tongue:

skyscraper
10-16-2008, 09:34 AM
It's not her sig. It's her mod quote, which gets set by mods and admins, which means it was something taken out of context and assigned to her.

my apologies then, Katja; I thought it was a real sentiment.

HBox
10-16-2008, 11:14 AM
I'm getting really tired of Anthony screaming "IT'S SOCIALISM" and then acting like that's the end of the argument. Social Security is socialism. Medicare is socialism. Medicaid is socialism. Pointing out that something is socialism is not an argument, it's an observation.

foodcourtdruide
10-16-2008, 11:17 AM
I'm getting really tired of Anthony screaming "IT'S SOCIALISM" and then acting like that's the end of the argument. Social Security is socialism. Medicare is socialism. Medicaid is socialism. Pointing out that something is socialism is not an argument, it's an observation.

I like when people say the democrats are socialists because it helps me filter out who is worth discussing politics with. If democrats are socialists then so are republicans.

angrymissy
10-16-2008, 11:18 AM
I'm getting really tired of Anthony screaming "IT'S SOCIALISM" and then acting like that's the end of the argument. Social Security is socialism. Medicare is socialism. Medicaid is socialism. Pointing out that something is socialism is not an argument, it's an observation.

The best thing that ever happened to me on Paltalk was some dumb girl saying she was voting McCain because Obama was a socialist. I asked her what a socialist was and she didn't even know. Went back and forth for like a 1/2 hour she could have freaking looked it up by then, but still didn't know.

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 11:20 AM
well, you say in your own signature that you hate America, so how can you come down on people for voting for their own self-interest?

it's not a signature but a mod quote which generally are taken out of context to make it sound edgy and outrageous.

I also was not coming down on people but stated that it is human nature to act in their own best interest.


It's not her sig. It's her mod quote, which gets set by mods and admins, which means it was something taken out of context and assigned to her.


just saw that too late. Exactly.

mikeyboy
10-16-2008, 11:21 AM
The best thing that ever happened to me on Paltalk was some dumb girl saying she was voting McCain because Obama was a socialist. I asked her what a socialist was and she didn't even know. Went back and forth for like a 1/2 hour she could have freaking looked it up by then, but still didn't know.

Heh. I remember that. I miss her.

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 11:26 AM
my apologies then, Katja; I thought it was a real sentiment.
wouldn't live here if it was the case.

foodcourtdruide
10-16-2008, 11:27 AM
The best thing that ever happened to me on Paltalk was some dumb girl saying she was voting McCain because Obama was a socialist. I asked her what a socialist was and she didn't even know. Went back and forth for like a 1/2 hour she could have freaking looked it up by then, but still didn't know.

It absolutely amazes me how many people throw out terms like "capitalism" and "socialism" and have no idea what they are.

Calling the United States "Capitalist" is just as inaccurate as calling it "Socialist". I don't know why things have to be defined in black and white and why there has to be a definite label. Dogmatic beliefs must be so comforting.

Marc with a c
10-16-2008, 11:28 AM
The best thing that ever happened to me on Paltalk was some dumb girl saying she was voting McCain because Obama was a socialist. I asked her what a socialist was and she didn't even know. Went back and forth for like a 1/2 hour she could have freaking looked it up by then, but still didn't know.

on paltalk? this sounds like a lie

kdubya
10-16-2008, 11:31 AM
The same tactic could be used on Anthony, he yells and screams it’s socialism, and un-American, but never really explains what he mans when he says these things. Anthony has a reputation for being smart. He may know things but that is very different from being intelligent.

The best thing that ever happened to me on Paltalk was some dumb girl saying she was voting McCain because Obama was a socialist. I asked her what a socialist was and she didn't even know. Went back and forth for like a 1/2 hour she could have freaking looked it up by then, but still didn't know.

Furtherman
10-16-2008, 11:48 AM
I'd like to think paltalk and a dumb girl would result in the best thing happening to me.

RoseBlood
10-16-2008, 12:02 PM
It's her mod quote, which gets set by mods and admins, which means it was something taken out of context and assigned to her.

my apologies then, Katja; I thought it was a real sentiment.

Nah, only the gay sounding ones are.

Zorro
10-16-2008, 12:18 PM
The same tactic could be used on Anthony, he yells and screams it’s socialism, and un-American, but never really explains what he mans when he says these things. Anthony has a reputation for being smart. He may know things but that is very different from being intelligent.

Anthony is a shock jock and never managed to finish high school. So, I wouldn't take his political commentary too seriously.

GreatAmericanZero
10-16-2008, 01:41 PM
i'd rather vote for "Op-ama" than "McCainthony"!

K.C.
10-16-2008, 04:26 PM
2. And because of the retarded ass Democrat in office before bush the two towers were taken down by terrorists



Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Sooooo...I completely imagined that memo entitled 'Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S.' sent by the intelligence agencies, to the Bush Administration (specifically Condi Rice), that they completely ignored????


Man...somebody must have dosed me again.

brettmojo
10-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Sooooo...I completely imagined that memo entitled 'Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S.' sent by the intelligence agencies, to the Bush Administration (specifically Condi Rice), that they completely ignored????


Man...somebody must have dosed me again.
You also missed how Clinton was responsible for the economic downturn.

SP1!
10-16-2008, 04:49 PM
I'm getting really tired of Anthony screaming "IT'S SOCIALISM" and then acting like that's the end of the argument. Social Security is socialism. Medicare is socialism. Medicaid is socialism. Pointing out that something is socialism is not an argument, it's an observation.

Nothing you posted is socialism, people paid into those programs and are getting value for their worth, that is the basis of capitalism, nice try though at least it shows you are thinking.

No but redistribution of wealth is socialism as well as thinking the people should be lifted over you own self interests for the good of the nation, you can not force people to work harder and then expect them to thank you for taking their money away.

The rich pay most of the taxes, that is a fact. The poor pay virtually none, ant is correct about that, there is no arguing that point. A candidate saying he is going to make it so the majority is going to pay less and the evil rich is going to have to pay more is a good election strategy, I dont think it is going to ever pass the house or the senate but it may get him into office.

K.C.
10-16-2008, 04:55 PM
Nothing you posted is socialism, people paid into those programs and are getting value for their worth, that is the basis of capitalism, nice try though at least it shows you are thinking.

No but redistribution of wealth is socialism as well as thinking the people should be lifted over you own self interests for the good of the nation, you can not force people to work harder and then expect them to thank you for taking their money away.



Wait.

So what current U.S. sanctioned governmental programs do people pay in to, that they get nothing out.

Dougie Brootal
10-16-2008, 04:55 PM
Nah, only the gay sounding ones are.

hahahahahahahaaa!!!... oh wait... :flush:

hydee
10-16-2008, 04:58 PM
Anthony is a shock jock and never managed to finish high school. So, I wouldn't take his political commentary too seriously.


There is nothing shocking about Anthony's ignorance.

Like his misunderstanding of why we have the right to bear arms.

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 05:00 PM
Nothing you posted is socialism, people paid into those programs and are getting value for their worth, that is the basis of capitalism, nice try though at least it shows you are thinking.

No but redistribution of wealth is socialism as well as thinking the people should be lifted over you own self interests for the good of the nation, you can not force people to work harder and then expect them to thank you for taking their money away.

The rich pay most of the taxes, that is a fact. The poor pay virtually none, ant is correct about that, there is no arguing that point. A candidate saying he is going to make it so the majority is going to pay less and the evil rich is going to have to pay more is a good election strategy, I dont think it is going to ever pass the house or the senate but it may get him into office.

medicaid is not medicare. medicaid is for low income people that cannot afford insurance and don't have jobs that offer it (sort of like welfare) while medicare is for people over 65 who are retired and most likely paid into the funds through their pay checks each month of their working life.
sounds socialistic to me...

mikeyboy
10-16-2008, 05:01 PM
Wait.

So what current U.S. sanctioned governmental programs do people pay in to, that they get nothing out.

Let's take a wait and see approach on social security.

Chigworthy
10-16-2008, 05:01 PM
There is nothing shocking about Anthony's ignorance.

Like his misunderstanding of why we have the right to bear arms.

Which is?

HBox
10-16-2008, 05:02 PM
Nothing you posted is socialism, people paid into those programs and are getting value for their worth, that is the basis of capitalism, nice try though at least it shows you are thinking.

No but redistribution of wealth is socialism as well as thinking the people should be lifted over you own self interests for the good of the nation, you can not force people to work harder and then expect them to thank you for taking their money away.

The rich pay most of the taxes, that is a fact. The poor pay virtually none, ant is correct about that, there is no arguing that point. A candidate saying he is going to make it so the majority is going to pay less and the evil rich is going to have to pay more is a good election strategy, I dont think it is going to ever pass the house or the senate but it may get him into office.

Yet again, you do not know what you are talking about. In more than one way.

SP1!
10-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Wait.

So what current U.S. sanctioned governmental programs do people pay in to, that they get nothing out.Everything he posted was not socialism but in his narrow public education view it is, and most people that are rich never get anything out of them since they have insurance and other means but they still pay and prop up the programs.

medicaid is not medicare. medicaid is for low income people that cannot afford insurance and don't have jobs that offer it (sort of like welfare) while medicare is for people over 65 who are retired and most likely paid into the funds through their pay checks each month of their working life.
sounds socialistic to me...Yes and whenever you have a job, you pay into those programs whether its $100/week or $10,000/week you pay a portion into a few government programs. Now right wing idiot talkers like to claim this is just the start of socialism but its not, its a fail safe for people that are stupid or have some financial catastrophe.

Yet again, you do not know what you are talking about. In more than one way.
Yes of course thats a good retort, claim government programs funded by people taxes are socialism then claim anything contrary to the fact is just wrong.

I just hope people arent stupid enough to give the dems a super majority in the senate as well this year.

brettmojo
10-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Taxing Americans, taking their money, then redistributing it to other Americans in the form of welfare or and other federal aid program is socialism as well. What's your point?

hydee
10-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Which is?

So we can protect ourselves from the gov't and the police if we feel we are in jeopardy. Like the Revolution, when you feel that you have to form a militia in order to take back the country from corrupt politics.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms has nothing to do with protecting your Xbox and your car. Those thoughts came way after the Bill of Rights were created.

biozombie
10-16-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm sick of my tax dollars going towards fixing potholes on roads I don't drive on, libraries I don't go to, and most importantly, bombs to be dropped on little brown people in countries I've never been to (and the subsequent rebuilding of those little brown people's countries)...

K.C.
10-16-2008, 05:15 PM
medicaid is not medicare. medicaid is for low income people that cannot afford insurance and don't have jobs that offer it (sort of like welfare) while medicare is for people over 65 who are retired and most likely paid into the funds through their pay checks each month of their working life.
sounds socialistic to me...


Here's the thing that always gets me about this argument.


"I don't want none of my money going to those lazy bastards on welfare and medicaid. What do I get out of it?"


Well guys, you know what you get out of it?

#1) SECURITY - honestly, if there's no safety nets in this country, do people really think that the poor are just going to sit quietly and fade away until they die? Find me any society in history where that's every happened. When people reach a certain breaking point, they'll do whatever's necessary to survive...even if that includes taking from those that do have stuff, forciably.

#2) THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE WHAT THEY PUT IN BACK, AND THEN SOME - By percentage, most of the rich that pay a larger percentage of taxes, make up most of the investment world. The less people are being squeezed for bare necessities and are able to get some help, the more likely they are to purchase the worthless, garbage products, that so many of these people put their money in.


This Wall Street crisis....at it's core, it's a product of the fact that the the mid-class and poor can't afford what they have (in this case, mortgages).

Now, if people can be bailed out in a reasonable fashion, the mid-class and poor will be viable in terms of continuing consumer spending, thus keeping the economy going.

If they don't, and large numbers of people go down in flames. See how much consumer confidence and spending drops, and furthermore, see how much MORE money, the rich and upper class lose in their investments, than if they just bit the bullet, and bought into the safety nets.

FunkyDrummer
10-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Which is?

http://www.demopolislive.com/gallery/images/1/1_the_right_to_bear_arms.jpg

SP1!
10-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Taxing Americans, taking their money, then redistributing it to other Americans in the form of welfare or and other federal aid program is socialism as well. What's your point?

Not if you are getting value for what you paid, think of it as a really crappy retirement plan but you get return for what you paid in to the plan, at least right now you do.

So it is not socialism, that would be just taking your money but not offering you anything in return but using it to prop up the people.

If the old soviet union taught us anything its that model doesn't work.

biozombie
10-16-2008, 05:23 PM
http://www.demopolislive.com/gallery/images/1/1_the_right_to_bear_arms.jpg
:clap: :clap: :clap:

just think about how many 9 year olds you could seriously fuck up with those arms.

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Here's the thing that always gets me about this argument.


"I don't want none of my money going to those lazy bastards on welfare and medicaid. What do I get out of it?"


Well guys, you know what you get out of it?

#1) SECURITY - honestly, if there's no safety nets in this country, do people really think that the poor are just going to sit quietly and fade away until they die? Find me any society in history where that's every happened. When people reach a certain breaking point, they'll do whatever's necessary to survive...even if that includes taking from those that do have stuff, forciably.

#2) THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE WHAT THEY PUT IN BACK, AND THEN SOME - By percentage, most of the rich that pay a larger percentage of taxes, make up most of the investment world. The less people are being squeezed for bare necessities and are able to get some help, the more likely they are to purchase the worthless, garbage products, that so many of these people put their money in.


This Wall Street crisis....at it's core, it's a product of the fact that the the mid-class and poor can't afford what they have (in this case, mortgages).

Now, if people can be bailed out in a reasonable fashion, the mid-class and poor will be viable in terms of continuing consumer spending, thus keeping the economy going.

If they don't, and large numbers of people go down in flames. See how much consumer confidence and spending drops, and furthermore, see how much MORE money, the rich and upper class lose in their investments, than if they just bit the bullet, and bought into the safety nets.

I wasn't making an argument but a simple statement to correct him on his point.

While I have my own opinion on welfare and the fact that it is abused in this country as much as it is in any other country in the world, medicaid and welfare are most definitely closer to socialism than admitted above.

I grew up in socialism/ communism, and even to this day our (my) country has a socialistic party and is based a lot on the principles of socialism.

SP1!
10-16-2008, 05:25 PM
So we can protect ourselves from the gov't and the police if we feel we are in jeopardy. Like the Revolution, when you feel that you have to form a militia in order to take back the country from corrupt politics.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms has nothing to do with protecting your Xbox and your car. Those thoughts came way after the Bill of Rights were created.

Thats just because Xbox's and cars werent invented yet!!!!

It is vague for a reason, if you read notes on the intents of the writers they wanted it to be as vague as possible to cover future advances, there are quite a few documentaries that cover this and are quite fun to watch, but then again I'm a history nerd.

K.C.
10-16-2008, 05:26 PM
I wasn't making an argument but a simple statement to correct him on his point.

While I have my own opinion on welfare and the fact that it is abused in this country as much as it is in any other country in the world, medicaid and welfare are most definitely closer to socialism than admitted above.

I grew up in socialism/ communism, and even to this day our (my) country has a socialistic party and is based a lot on the principles of socialism.

I know you weren't, I was just using it as a springboard to rant.


I saw that as the best opening I'd get. :happy:

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 05:30 PM
I know you weren't, I was just using it as a springboard to rant.


I saw that as the best opening I'd get. :happy:

yeah, I am used to being a spring board... I guess I should have known ;)

HBox
10-16-2008, 05:33 PM
Yes of course thats a good retort, claim government programs funded by people taxes are socialism then claim anything contrary to the fact is just wrong.

I just hope people arent stupid enough to give the dems a super majority in the senate as well this year.

By your logic, and I am being generous here in allowing that term, any socialized medicine system where people pay taxes to fund it is not socialism at all because "paying in and getting value for their worth."

Socialism is the seizing of the means of production by the people. The banks are partially socialized because the people now own part of them. Medicaid and Medicare are socialism because the people own it. Social Security is socialism because the people own it. These programs were not born out of capitalism, they were born out of the failure of capitalism, which should be fairly obvious. Just about any public assistance program is either to some degree socialism or born out of socialist theories.

This idea you have in your head that you think is socialism has no basis in reality I assure you.

Brad_Rush
10-16-2008, 05:35 PM
I'm sick of my tax dollars going towards fixing potholes on roads I don't drive on, libraries I don't go to, and most importantly, bombs to be dropped on little brown people in countries I've never been to (and the subsequent rebuilding of those little brown people's countries)...

so what color of little people are you okay with us bombing their country?

hydee
10-16-2008, 05:36 PM
so what color of little people are you okay with us bombing their country?

I am not even kidding I was just going to ask this exact question.

biozombie
10-16-2008, 05:38 PM
...it's been a long time since we bombed people who aren't brown...I got my eye on you, former Soviet Union.[/sarcasm]

Meataball23
10-16-2008, 05:40 PM
perhaps..but he goes down the road that "business owners and corporate people shouldn't be taxed" and no one is not going to tax them and then tax the shit out of poor people..so if you buy into the Anthony Cumia Economic Plan it would be no one paying taxes on anything whatsoever


Hes a libertarian. Many libertarians vote for the gop and overlook the crazy religious stuff.

K.C.
10-16-2008, 05:40 PM
...it's been a long time since we bombed people who aren't brown

http://aviewfrommybalcony.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/kosovomap.gif


God bless Bill Clinton....equal opportunity bomber!

booster11373
10-16-2008, 05:41 PM
Here's the thing that always gets me about this argument.


"I don't want none of my money going to those lazy bastards on welfare and medicaid. What do I get out of it?"


Well guys, you know what you get out of it?

#1) SECURITY - honestly, if there's no safety nets in this country, do people really think that the poor are just going to sit quietly and fade away until they die? Find me any society in history where that's every happened. When people reach a certain breaking point, they'll do whatever's necessary to survive...even if that includes taking from those that do have stuff, forciably.

#2) THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE WHAT THEY PUT IN BACK, AND THEN SOME - By percentage, most of the rich that pay a larger percentage of taxes, make up most of the investment world. The less people are being squeezed for bare necessities and are able to get some help, the more likely they are to purchase the worthless, garbage products, that so many of these people put their money in.


This Wall Street crisis....at it's core, it's a product of the fact that the the mid-class and poor can't afford what they have (in this case, mortgages).

Now, if people can be bailed out in a reasonable fashion, the mid-class and poor will be viable in terms of continuing consumer spending, thus keeping the economy going.

If they don't, and large numbers of people go down in flames. See how much consumer confidence and spending drops, and furthermore, see how much MORE money, the rich and upper class lose in their investments, than if they just bit the bullet, and bought into the safety nets.

well said! :clap:

mikeyboy
10-16-2008, 05:42 PM
Bomb the Swiss. They'll never see it coming.

biozombie
10-16-2008, 05:43 PM
http://aviewfrommybalcony.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/kosovomap.gif


God bless Bill Clinton....equal opportunity bomber!

color me corrected, sir.

~Katja~
10-16-2008, 05:43 PM
Bomb the Swiss. They'll never see it coming.

I hate the swiss........dentists that is... they are cruel to German tourists with root canal infections

booster11373
10-16-2008, 05:43 PM
The rich pay most of the taxes, that is a fact. The poor pay virtually none, ant is correct about that, there is no arguing that point. A candidate saying he is going to make it so the majority is going to pay less and the evil rich is going to have to pay more is a good election strategy, I dont think it is going to ever pass the house or the senate but it may get him into office.

The VAST majority of big business (i.e. multinationals) dont pay any taxes in the USA that is a proven fact

mikeyboy
10-16-2008, 05:49 PM
I hate the swiss........dentists that is... they are cruel to German tourists with root canal infections

It's settled. Let's do it. We'll catch them off guard and they'll be forced to try to fight us off with those queer little red knives.

brettmojo
10-16-2008, 06:09 PM
Not if you are getting value for what you paid, think of it as a really crappy retirement plan but you get return for what you paid in to the plan, at least right now you do.
Yeah but the [unspecified minority] who come into my Super Market every 1st of the month like it's Christmas don't share their Goya products with me and yell things at me in Spanish when I try to snag a bottle of their 12-pack of Corona.

Jughead
10-16-2008, 06:30 PM
I Only listen to people I love....:smile:..P.S I hate the Opie haters....that is all *Ground Shakes*

NewYorkDragons80
10-16-2008, 07:30 PM
The best thing that ever happened to me on Paltalk was some dumb girl saying she was voting McCain because Obama was a socialist. I asked her what a socialist was and she didn't even know. Went back and forth for like a 1/2 hour she could have freaking looked it up by then, but still didn't know.

What is this paltalk you speak of? I'll go listen to my radio on the outside chance that somebody might make mention of it.

FunkyDrummer
10-16-2008, 07:39 PM
It's settled. Let's do it. We'll catch them off guard and they'll be forced to try to fight us off with those queer little red knives.

It would be worth it just for melting this...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/NCI_swiss_cheese.jpg

TjM
10-17-2008, 04:17 AM
Which is?

Everyone has the right to hang a set of bear arms over their fireplace

TjM
10-17-2008, 04:21 AM
It's settled. Let's do it. We'll catch them off guard and they'll be forced to try to fight us off with those queer little red knives.

So you're just content to let Canada off the hook! :furious:

Don Stugots
10-17-2008, 04:33 AM
Bomb Canada, its their fault.

mikeyboy
10-17-2008, 04:39 AM
Bomb Canada, its their fault.

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hydee
10-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Bomb Canada, its their fault.

As a us citizen living in Montreal, I can personally assure you that it is not Canada's fault.
Blaming Canada is such an American thing to do :)

Blame yourself America whatever your issues are now it's your own damn fault :)

RAAMONE
10-17-2008, 05:57 AM
As a us citizen living in Montreal, I can personally assure you that it is not Canada's fault.
Blaming Canada is such an American thing to do :)

Blame yourself America whatever your issues are now it's your own damn fault :)

traitor

Don Stugots
10-17-2008, 05:59 AM
Infidel!

Recyclerz
10-17-2008, 06:21 AM
Bomb the Swiss. They'll never see it coming.

I've worked for Swiss-owned companies for most of my adult life so here's a li'l intel:

You can bomb them but they'll just retreat into the well-appointed shelters that they've built into the Alps over the years and enjoy their fondue while appreciating the original Klee paintings hanging there. Then they'll come out afterwards, dust themselves off, tsk-tsk at the Americans for being so rash and short-sighted and continue on as if nothing has happened.

However, if you fuck with their money then they'll get all Ronnie B on you. They're all pretty much in good shape from all that mountain hiking and those Swiss Army knives look like primitive torture devices for a reason. You've heard that the Eskimos have 98 different words for snow? The Swiss have 3 times as many for money.

I say we bomb somebody who will be less trouble. Like the Maldives. they'll be underwater soon enough anyway so they won't have long to hold a grudge.

hydee
10-17-2008, 06:27 AM
traitor

I have free health care, get my weed delivered to my house by my mail man, drink strong beer and enjoy Fois Gras whenever my heart can handle it.

PS I have done more for social causes in the US from my home in Montreal then most American's that live there do. I donate a nice percentage of my pay to Gladd, Amfar,Meals on Wheels, and other social organizations. I have flown home to attend fundraisers and other things in my home states of Pennsylvania and New Hampshire.

All that and still a traitor..... I think I am ok with that.

Zorro
10-17-2008, 06:30 AM
It's settled. Let's do it. We'll catch them off guard and they'll be forced to try to fight us off with those queer little red knives.

I lead my squad with the corkscrew

jetdog
10-17-2008, 06:33 AM
I have free health care, get my weed delivered to my house by my mail man, drink strong beer and enjoy Fois Gras whenever my heart can handle it.

PS I have done more for social causes in the US from my home in Montreal then most American's that live there do. I donate a nice percentage of my pay to Gladd, Amfar,Meals on Wheels, and other social organizations. I have flown home to attend fundraisers and other things in my home states of Pennsylvania and New Hampshire.

All that and still a traitor..... I think I am ok with that.

pompous traitor

RAAMONE
10-17-2008, 06:34 AM
I have free health care, get my weed delivered to my house by my mail man, drink strong beer and enjoy Fois Gras whenever my heart can handle it.

PS I have done more for social causes in the US from my home in Montreal then most American's that live there do. I donate a nice percentage of my pay to Gladd, Amfar,Meals on Wheels, and other social organizations. I have flown home to attend fundraisers and other things in my home states of Pennsylvania and New Hampshire.

All that and still a traitor..... I think I am ok with that.

you finally let us have molson xxx back...so i take it back

MisterSmith
10-17-2008, 06:35 AM
I have free health care, get my weed delivered to my house by my mail man, drink strong beer and enjoy Fois Gras whenever my heart can handle it.

PS I have done more for social causes in the US from my home in Montreal then most American's that live there do. I donate a nice percentage of my pay to Gladd, Amfar,Meals on Wheels, and other social organizations. I have flown home to attend fundraisers and other things in my home states of Pennsylvania and New Hampshire.

All that and still a traitor..... I think I am ok with that.

That tears it!!! Blow those liberal, self-righteous, Canadian bastards off the map!!!

:tongue:





Of course I keed. Good for you!

mikeyboy
10-17-2008, 06:55 AM
I've worked for Swiss-owned companies for most of my adult life so here's a li'l intel:

You can bomb them but they'll just retreat into the well-appointed shelters that they've built into the Alps over the years and enjoy their fondue while appreciating the original Klee paintings hanging there. Then they'll come out afterwards, dust themselves off, tsk-tsk at the Americans for being so rash and short-sighted and continue on as if nothing has happened.

However, if you fuck with their money then they'll get all Ronnie B on you. They're all pretty much in good shape from all that mountain hiking and those Swiss Army knives look like primitive torture devices for a reason. You've heard that the Eskimos have 98 different words for snow? The Swiss have 3 times as many for money.

I say we bomb somebody who will be less trouble. Like the Maldives. they'll be underwater soon enough anyway so they won't have long to hold a grudge.

Okay, the Swiss are out. I say we bomb Micronesia. Just by the name alone it sounds like it would be an adorable war.

Dougie Brootal
10-17-2008, 06:58 AM
So we can protect ourselves from the gov't and the police if we feel we are in jeopardy. Like the Revolution, when you feel that you have to form a militia in order to take back the country from corrupt politics.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms has nothing to do with protecting your Xbox and your car. Those thoughts came way after the Bill of Rights were created.

whats wrong with not wanting someone to steal your belongings?!?!

hydee
10-17-2008, 07:12 AM
whats wrong with not wanting someone to steal your belongings?!?!

I am not saying there is something wrong with protecting your belongings, but it isn't the reason why we were given the right to bear arms. I can't change the meaning the forefathers had for the 2nd amendment.

I made this comment in relation to Anthony screaming daily about his guns and how Obama wants to take them away from him. I just drew attention to the fact that Anthony has no freaking idea of why we got the right to have arms, he thinks it is for protecting his McMansion but it's not. So that's all I can say.

If a grown man that is over 40 feels the need to strap on a gun inside his house to feel manly and wants to delude himself into believing it's for his safety. All I can say is that Fez has a card for 4 Winds that I am sure he can lend to Anthony.

ChimneyFish
10-17-2008, 09:39 AM
While I can certainly see your point, and have gotten a bit tired of the maniacal screming everyday, there have been numerous home invasions right in his area.

Would you just sit there and take it????

scottinnj
10-17-2008, 09:55 AM
Blaming Canada is such an American thing to do :)


Yes, it's a tradition, like quilting or a half-time show.

mikeyboy
10-17-2008, 09:59 AM
Blaming Canada is such an American thing to do :)


http://talesofanintrovert.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/fuck_yeah.jpg

Dougie Brootal
10-17-2008, 10:06 AM
I am not saying there is something wrong with protecting your belongings, but it isn't the reason why we were given the right to bear arms. I can't change the meaning the forefathers had for the 2nd amendment.

I made this comment in relation to Anthony screaming daily about his guns and how Obama wants to take them away from him. I just drew attention to the fact that Anthony has no freaking idea of why we got the right to have arms, he thinks it is for protecting his McMansion but it's not. So that's all I can say.

If a grown man that is over 40 feels the need to strap on a gun inside his house to feel manly and wants to delude himself into believing it's for his safety. All I can say is that Fez has a card for 4 Winds that I am sure he can lend to Anthony.

so what? why does he need to know what the people who wrote this thing 200 years ago in order to own a gun?

im sure the guy who invented cars didnt intend for them to be used in races, but we can still do that right?

ChimneyFish
10-17-2008, 10:26 AM
im sure the guy who invented cars didnt intend for them to be used in races, but we can still do that right?

I submit: no.

There's really no need to go faster than 30.3 miles per hour.

SP1!
10-17-2008, 11:39 AM
I am not saying there is something wrong with protecting your belongings, but it isn't the reason why we were given the right to bear arms. I can't change the meaning the forefathers had for the 2nd amendment.

I made this comment in relation to Anthony screaming daily about his guns and how Obama wants to take them away from him. I just drew attention to the fact that Anthony has no freaking idea of why we got the right to have arms, he thinks it is for protecting his McMansion but it's not. So that's all I can say.

If a grown man that is over 40 feels the need to strap on a gun inside his house to feel manly and wants to delude himself into believing it's for his safety. All I can say is that Fez has a card for 4 Winds that I am sure he can lend to Anthony.

Well the supreme court disagrees with you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

hydee
10-17-2008, 11:43 AM
While I can certainly see your point, and have gotten a bit tired of the maniacal screming everyday, there have been numerous home invasions right in his area.

Would you just sit there and take it????

Anthony has many forms of protection on his house. He brags about his cameras and his alarm system and what not. If he is taking those measures the need for a gun becomes lower and lower.

I am not saying he shouldn't have his guns, I just think he should educate himself on why he is able to have them, and maybe not depend on them so much for his piece of mind.

hydee
10-17-2008, 11:46 AM
Well the supreme court disagrees with you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

Just because many years later the supreme court decided to change the meaning to make people feel safer, doesn't mean it discounts the original meaning of the 2nd amendment.

I said before that the idea behind the 2nd amendment changed way after it was written.

scottinnj
10-17-2008, 11:59 AM
I submit: no.

There's really no need to go faster than 30.3 miles per hour.

Thanks for the input there, Henry Ford.:clap:

SP1!
10-17-2008, 01:08 PM
Just because many years later the supreme court decided to change the meaning to make people feel safer, doesn't mean it discounts the original meaning of the 2nd amendment.

I said before that the idea behind the 2nd amendment changed way after it was written.

Again thats your opinion and the only one that really matters is the one they handed down, they said it was also for self defense the way it was written and they interpreted it that way. Sorry if more people believe them than a random poster on the internetz.

BlackSpider
10-17-2008, 01:33 PM
I like guns.

hunnerbun
10-17-2008, 01:37 PM
I Like Turtles....

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esdhater
10-18-2008, 08:17 PM
I Like Turtles....

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

GreatAmericanZero
10-30-2008, 12:15 PM
i was thinking today when Anthony was ranting about guns

there is no issue i care less about. I just have no opinion..keep 'em, take 'em away, take some away..i don't give a shit in the slightest

Even issues as boring as "School Vouchers" i can get an opinion about..but guns? just does nothing for me

YourAmishDaddy
10-30-2008, 12:23 PM
Well I'm waiting on Anthony to recall that the only time guns were confiscated house to house in American history was after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans by Blackwater. Under the auspices of The Patriot Act.

Something I'm sure he supports. The heralded Second Amendment. Which doesn't really exist anymore because the Patriot Act nullifies it if some sort of disaster happens.

I'm sure he knows this and is chomping at the bit to admit it on the air.

MisterSmith
10-30-2008, 12:25 PM
i was thinking today when Anthony was ranting about guns

there is no issue i care less about. I just have no opinion..keep 'em, take 'em away, take some away..i don't give a shit in the slightest

Even issues as boring as "School Vouchers" i can get an opinion about..but guns? just does nothing for me

I personally don't care about guns either, but I also know how bass-ackwards our system of government has become. The "give them an inch, they take a yard" concept has played itself out more than once, so I can see why supporters of gun owner's rights are nervous.

I completely agree with strict legislation on purchasing and licensing of firearms, but banning certain kinds has always seemed silly to me. Guns will be available no matter what you do, so why not allow citizens that meet the necessary legal requirements own them.

That said, Anthony often sounds like a jackass when talking about the issue. I agree with the majority of his points RE: legal ownership, but he could really try to sound like less of a raving asshole about it.

GreatAmericanZero
10-30-2008, 12:28 PM
I personally don't care about guns either, but I also know how bass-ackwards our system of government has become. The "give them an inch, they take a yard" concept has played itself out more than once, so I can see why supporters of gun owner's rights are nervous.

I completely agree with strict legislation on purchasing and licensing of firearms, but banning certain kinds has always seemed silly to me. Guns will be available no matter what you do, so why not allow citizens that meet the necessary legal requirements own them.

That said, Anthony often sounds like a jackass when talking about the issue. I agree with the majority of his points RE: legal ownership, but he could really try to sound like less of a raving asshole about it.

but u have at least some kind of opinion or sense of something. I just don't care...a break they do about Anthony ranting about guns, he can spend that same break ranting about the scent of daffodils. it means nothing to me

CofyCrakCocaine
10-30-2008, 12:41 PM
but u have at least some kind of opinion or sense of something. I just don't care...a break they do about Anthony ranting about guns, he can spend that same break ranting about the scent of daffodils. it means nothing to me

Wish I had your same feelings. I had a friend at Columbine so I am emotionally invested whether I care to be or not. End of life story back to Anthony.

His argument that time distinctions don't matter between Second Amendment and today's world is completely irrelevant. Why? Because in them days people had muskets. I don't even think they had good flintlocks back then. At best you could kill one fucking guy in a room before you had to resort to the bayonet. Today, you can wipe out an entire room full of people and hold an entire building hostage. That's a difference, and Tony can go wipe my fucking ass with his opinions.

The fact Tony owns guns at all is a credit to the country but he's ungrateful and wants to bitch severely about restrictions which in my opinion do not get enforced nearly as well as they ought to because of stupid assholes like him who happen to own a gun shop and don't want to enforce written law.

Having unrestricted access to an arsenal in a heavily populated urban area is simple common sense "No" of life. While I believe you should be allowed to carry a tazer and mace or something you shouldn't have something like an AR-15 in your fucking Escalade while driving through a city. Funny, he's a guy all in favor of law enforcement except when it applies to him.

Want unrestricted access to guns? Go live in Palestine.

Pestz4Evah
10-30-2008, 02:06 PM
Was Anthony being serious when he said Obama won't salute the flag or wear a flag pin? Is he that fucking stupid?

yojimbo7248
10-30-2008, 02:19 PM
Was Anthony being serious when he said Obama won't salute the flag or wear a flag pin? Is he that fucking stupid?

I was assuming he wasn't serious. I assume most of what he says about Obama is a joke.

zildjian361
10-30-2008, 02:20 PM
Ant's OK he just can't wait till this allimoney shit is over with so he get back to Jill's T&A.:lol:

keverlast
10-30-2008, 02:41 PM
Hey GVAC, Antonio is an angry jilted fellow, very angry, I keep my Xm only fer RF and i get 9hrs of repeat O&A. Fuckn crap.

GreatAmericanZero
10-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Anthony did say a few days ago that terrorists may view Obama as their "brethren". Nobody on the show called him out for saying a comment that was flat out ignorant

GreatAmericanZero
11-18-2008, 02:25 PM
anyone else feel kinda weird today when Anthony was calling Howard an "out of touch rich guy who knows nothing about how the everyman lives"?

Hottub
11-18-2008, 02:35 PM
anyone else feel kinda weird today when Anthony was calling Howard an "out of touch rich guy who knows nothing about how the everyman lives"?

I've been saying for a while that it would come to this.

Lady Resin
11-18-2008, 02:40 PM
But, but, but..........Ant has a McMasion in a predominately white neighborhood.

GreatAmericanZero
11-18-2008, 02:59 PM
I've been saying for a while that it would come to this.

it has come to where Anthony is out-of-touch rich man for awhile, but i felt the show was self-aware of this and trying to play it off as a humorous angle. But calling Howard out for the same behavior in a negative way is just really really odd to me

The Ogre
11-18-2008, 04:19 PM
it has come to where Anthony is out-of-touch rich man for awhile, but i felt the show was self-aware of this and trying to play it off as a humorous angle. But calling Howard out for the same behavior in a negative way is just really really odd to me


So much for the "most honest show in radio". Anthony, like the pure Long Island trash he is, constantly rubs it in everyone's face that he made good, and is rich. Now to make fun of a dude who has some real dough he plays the regular guy card. At least Stern never acted like he wasn't rich after he got his big payday. Then you have the two of them going off on how ultra successful they are and it's the industry that's failing, not them. Because I'm sure they would have been kicked off of a dozen markets if they were slaying in the ratings. How does anyone buy this shit anymore?

Ant is just a ranting yelling jackass now and the whole show is duncecap radio.

GregoryJoseph
11-18-2008, 04:26 PM
He's sinking deeper and deeper into the abyss, I fear.

GreatAmericanZero
11-18-2008, 04:30 PM
So much for the "most honest show in radio". Anthony, like the pure Long Island trash he is, constantly rubs it in everyone's face that he made good, and is rich. Now to make fun of a dude who has some real dough he plays the regular guy card. At least Stern never acted like he wasn't rich after he got his big payday. Then you have the two of them going off on how ultra successful they are and it's the industry that's failing, not them. Because I'm sure they would have been kicked off of a dozen markets if they were slaying in the ratings. How does anyone buy this shit anymore?

Ant is just a ranting yelling jackass now and the whole show is duncecap radio.

Stern has always been larger-than-life rockstar "King of all Media" so him being "Hollywood Howie" is something that his fans must be comfortable with at this point. And I've heard Anthony defend him talking about his rich man woes as "I need to talk about whats going on in my life!"..which is fine, but you can't call out one old rich man for doing the same thing the other old rich man is doing


Denis Leary called Anthony out on something today that I'm glad someone finally made the point. Anthony has been talking about being taxed more as "its going to go to poor black people"..Leary finally said "the money is going to help our country because of the massive debts we are in because of the Iraq war and the economy sucking etc..someone has to pay for it". Leary made sense...the guy has good stuff to say even if Bill Hicks didn't say it first!

biozombie
11-18-2008, 05:08 PM
Leary made sense...the guy has good stuff to say even if Bill Hicks didn't say it first!

If I had a Christmas card list, you'd be on it, pal.

foodcourtdruide
11-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Stern has always been larger-than-life rockstar "King of all Media" so him being "Hollywood Howie" is something that his fans must be comfortable with at this point. And I've heard Anthony defend him talking about his rich man woes as "I need to talk about whats going on in my life!"..which is fine, but you can't call out one old rich man for doing the same thing the other old rich man is doing


Denis Leary called Anthony out on something today that I'm glad someone finally made the point. Anthony has been talking about being taxed more as "its going to go to poor black people"..Leary finally said "the money is going to help our country because of the massive debts we are in because of the Iraq war and the economy sucking etc..someone has to pay for it". Leary made sense...the guy has good stuff to say even if Bill Hicks didn't say it first!

You ever wonder what Bill Hicks would be doing today? Do you think he'd be a regular on r & f or o & a? Do you think he'd be iconic like Carlin was? or slip into obscurity like a Dennis Miller? Or just work his life on the road?

GreatAmericanZero
11-18-2008, 06:12 PM
You ever wonder what Bill Hicks would be doing today? Do you think he'd be a regular on r & f or o & a? Do you think he'd be iconic like Carlin was? or slip into obscurity like a Dennis Miller? Or just work his life on the road?

i think he'd be hosting the tonight show

Slumbag
11-18-2008, 06:34 PM
Denis Leary called Anthony out on something today that I'm glad someone finally made the point. Anthony has been talking about being taxed more as "its going to go to poor black people"..Leary finally said "the money is going to help our country because of the massive debts we are in because of the Iraq war and the economy sucking etc..someone has to pay for it". Leary made sense...the guy has good stuff to say even if Bill Hicks didn't say it first!

I do not like Denis Leary, stand up wise. But he sounds like a fantastic individual. I really enjoyed hearing him counter Ant today.
You ever wonder what Bill Hicks would be doing today? Do you think he'd be a regular on r & f or o & a? Do you think he'd be iconic like Carlin was? or slip into obscurity like a Dennis Miller? Or just work his life on the road?

i think he'd be hosting the tonight show

No fucking way.
He'd probably be teaching at a college or something like that.

kegbuna
11-18-2008, 06:43 PM
Yea, I tend to dislike the ranting kind of crazy standup that seems to be popular on OnA. However, Jim Norton seems so intelligent and has some funny lines, and Dennis Leary was respectable, coherent, and intelligent today.

Btw, I know Brian Reagan is (kind of) a regular on OnA and god damn it if he isn't one of my favorite if not favorite comedian. Other than that though, it seems like the show has gone to ranting about the same neocon stuff about minorities, guns, and bombing other countries.

I don't know if anyone else hears this but I feel like Opie gets tired of it too sometimes, but is such a pro that he plays it off as being awesome radio. I miss the old fun OnA where racism was actually kind of fun, mainly because it WAS coming from a comedic place.

I think I need to hire an editor for my posts.

NewYorkDragons80
11-18-2008, 06:47 PM
I do not like Denis Leary, stand up wise. But he sounds like a fantastic individual. I really enjoyed hearing him counter Ant today.
I get annoyed when members of the show say things like "Anthony's a smart guy" and "Anthony's done his research." He isn't and he hasn't. His arguments consist of low taxes and gun ownership while reverting to Fez circa Fall 2007 when any other political issue is raised. Leary's alright, but if he voted for Obama for the reasons he says he did, maybe he should've been clued into the fact that McCain's positions are identical to Obama's on every one of those issues. Maybe Anthony the genius should've been the one pointing that out.

NewYorkDragons80
11-18-2008, 06:50 PM
Yea, I tend to dislike the ranting kind of crazy standup that seems to be popular on OnA. However, Jim Norton seems so intelligent and has some funny lines, and Dennis Leary was respectable, coherent, and intelligent today.

Btw, I know Brian Reagan is (kind of) a regular on OnA and god damn it if he isn't one of my favorite if not favorite comedian. Other than that though, it seems like the show has gone to ranting about the same neocon stuff about minorities, guns, and bombing other countries.

I don't know if anyone else hears this but I feel like Opie gets tired of it too sometimes, but is such a pro that he plays it off as being awesome radio. I miss the old fun OnA where racism was actually kind of fun, mainly because it WAS coming from a comedic place.

I think I need to hire an editor for my posts.

Dipaolo is one of my all-time favorite comics and I tend to find his politics agreeable, but he does fall back on talking points if he discusses politics for more than 15 minutes. Hopefully with the election over, he can go back to taking on society instead of narrow politics.

TjM
11-19-2008, 06:05 AM
I think it's because Howie backed Obama

AKA
11-19-2008, 09:05 AM
So much for the "most honest show in radio".

Don ane Mike were mocked for the honesty years ago - when did O&A and their fans begin to spin it on them?

CofyCrakCocaine
11-19-2008, 10:16 AM
You ever wonder what Bill Hicks would be doing today? Do you think he'd be a regular on r & f or o & a? Do you think he'd be iconic like Carlin was? or slip into obscurity like a Dennis Miller? Or just work his life on the road?

Dennis Miller isn't obscure even today. He's just annoying.

foodcourtdruide
11-19-2008, 10:21 AM
Dennis Miller isn't obscure even today. He's just annoying.

Yeah? I think post-Monday Night Football he's slipping into obscurity. I have no idea what the hell he's doing.

CofyCrakCocaine
11-19-2008, 10:26 AM
Yeah? I think post-Monday Night Football he's slipping into obscurity. I have no idea what the hell he's doing.

Bobby Lee is probably considered obscure or at least will be in a couple years following the MAD TV cancellation. Obscure meaning you ask someone "hey that Dennis Miller" and they say "WHO!?"- not "oh he's doing ESPN instead of HBO and therefore is not as culturally relevant as he yoosed to be"... Denny's still on TV (sometimes). Bobby Lee is not. Semantics I guess.:drunk:

foodcourtdruide
11-19-2008, 10:29 AM
Bobby Lee is probably considered obscure or at least will be in a couple years following the MAD TV cancellation. Obscure meaning you ask someone "hey that Dennis Miller" and they say "WHO!?"- not "oh he's doing ESPN instead of HBO and therefore is not as culturally relevant as he yoosed to be"... Denny's still on TV (sometimes). Bobby Lee is not. Semantics I guess.:drunk:

You're right. So, the word is not obscure..... how about irrelevant?

CofyCrakCocaine
11-19-2008, 10:32 AM
You're right. So, the word is not obscure..... how about irrelevant?

For Dennis Miller, yes. For Bill Hicks, obscure is a better word. I think the latter would always be relevant, but nobody still knows about him. Hell, I have a hard time finding people who know Carlin.

K.C.
11-19-2008, 10:35 AM
How has the Gene Simmons thing not been brought in to this thread yet???

So let me get this straight....Anthony's pissed, because Gene made a move on a chick that he unremorsefully cheated on, and then revealed had anal leakage problems on national radio?

Seriously...is he fucking retarded?

CofyCrakCocaine
11-19-2008, 10:48 AM
How has the Gene Simmons thing not been brought in to this thread yet???

So let me get this straight....Anthony's pissed, because Gene made a move on a chick that he unremorsefully cheated on, and then revealed had anal leakage problems on national radio?

Seriously...is he fucking retarded?

Nobody brought it up yet either because Gene Simmons deserved every harsh word Mr.Cumia had for him OR some folks haven't heard the show yet.

GregoryJoseph
11-19-2008, 10:53 AM
It's been 10 months since the meltdown that prompted this thread. Has Anthony turned it around or is he headed for sheer lunacy?

RAAMONE
11-19-2008, 11:00 AM
How has the Gene Simmons thing not been brought in to this thread yet???

So let me get this straight....Anthony's pissed, because Gene made a move on a chick that he unremorsefully cheated on, and then revealed had anal leakage problems on national radio?

Seriously...is he fucking retarded?

no...he made it clear that he didnt care about jill...the fact was that he hit on her knowing that it was ants girl then came on the show 10 minutes later and said he would fuck her acting like it was a joke...without anthony knowing any of this

i would be pissed

foodcourtdruide
11-19-2008, 11:01 AM
For Dennis Miller, yes. For Bill Hicks, obscure is a better word. I think the latter would always be relevant, but nobody still knows about him. Hell, I have a hard time finding people who know Carlin.

That is a sad statement, but I agree. Rant in e-minor should be required listening for all high school students in America.

NewYorkDragons80
11-19-2008, 11:11 AM
How has the Gene Simmons thing not been brought in to this thread yet???

So let me get this straight....Anthony's pissed, because Gene made a move on a chick that he unremorsefully cheated on, and then revealed had anal leakage problems on national radio?

Seriously...is he fucking retarded?

I can't blame him for being pissed or for continuing to be pissed about it, even after they broke up. But you brought up an excellent point. He has humiliated Jill in private and then in public and after humiliating her he decided to bring up Gene's disrespect for 15 min+ segments on at least 5 different shows. It's time to move on.

GreatAmericanZero
11-19-2008, 12:29 PM
i thought the gene simmons stuff was funny!

K.C.
11-19-2008, 12:33 PM
I can't blame him for being pissed or for continuing to be pissed about it, even after they broke up. But you brought up an excellent point. He has humiliated Jill in private and then in public and after humiliating her he decided to bring up Gene's disrespect for 15 min+ segments on at least 5 different shows. It's time to move on.

That's really my point.

Everyone knows Gene Simmons is an asshole, but Anthony's part in the whole Nicolini saga paints him as just as big a scumbag, so I don't see where he has the nerve to act like Gene's a douchebag for what he did.

And quite frankly, Ant kind of had it coming, with how he handled the whole break up on air.

And then the whole 'I'm calling you out' thing is just radio hackdom.

celery
11-19-2008, 04:30 PM
It's been 10 months since the meltdown that prompted this thread. Has Anthony turned it around or is he headed for sheer lunacy?

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke. At least, that's how I took it.

Now I honestly believe he IS mentally unstable.

And a self-centered bigot.

IamFogHat
11-19-2008, 04:32 PM
That is a sad statement, but I agree. Rant in e-minor should be required listening for all high school students in America.

It's fuck-ing brilliant. The thing about that one is he's super enraged, but you get the sense that the passion and conviction behind it justifies the rage that for other people you would just consider blind and pointless.

brettmojo
11-19-2008, 06:16 PM
It's been 10 months since the meltdown that prompted this thread. Has Anthony turned it around or is he headed for sheer lunacy?
He's stocking up on guns, fucking teenagers, afraid to leave his house and spending money like a lotto winning guinea...

I say it's status queue.

celery
11-19-2008, 09:35 PM
anyone else feel kinda weird today when Anthony was calling Howard an "out of touch rich guy who knows nothing about how the everyman lives"?

Also, today he called Gene Simmons a "Money-grubbing fucko".

CofyCrakCocaine
11-19-2008, 09:58 PM
He's stocking up on guns, fucking teenagers, afraid to leave his house and spending money like a lotto winning guinea...

I say it's status quo.

fixed it for ya

Slumbag
11-19-2008, 10:06 PM
Everyone knows Gene Simmons is an asshole, but Anthony's part in the whole Nicolini saga paints him as just as big a scumbag, so I don't see where he has the nerve to act like Gene's a douchebag for what he did.


I have a feeling he thinks that "YOU listen to MY show, so no matter what I do, you'll be on my side".

Like, if your buddy acted like a turd, you would still have his back.

Gvac
11-20-2008, 02:43 AM
I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke.

Nope. I really thought he had lost his mind when I originally posted this. It was the night of the "sit down" that Ron and Fez had on a Sunday night to try to put an end to the message board wars, and Anthony called in ranting and raving about how furious he was over what's written about the show on fan sites.

It struck me as the action of a madman.

BlackSpider
11-20-2008, 02:45 AM
I hear he's so unstable that now he wears tin-foil hats
so minorities can't read his thoughts...

K.C.
11-20-2008, 07:34 AM
Nope. I really thought he had lost his mind when I originally posted this. It was the night of the "sit down" that Ron and Fez had on a Sunday night to try to put an end to the message board wars, and Anthony called in ranting and raving about how furious he was over what's written about the show on fan sites.

It struck me as the action of a madman.

Aahhhh...the days when we thought the 'sit down' was the bottoming out of his insanity...

hydee
11-20-2008, 08:34 AM
Aahhhh...the days when we thought the 'sit down' was the bottoming out of his insanity...

Since McCain lost the election, and Anthony doesn't have anything to harp on Obama for yet. I am just assuming that calling Gene up is another loop on the downward spiral of Anthony hitting bottom.

Spending his money and buying guns most likely are getting a bit boring, so he has to throw some crazy mad capped public call out, to add some spice to his life. Newly rich people do this all the time. They get bored they do something more outrageous, and they one up themselves over and over until they run out of money, end up in jail, or get fired.

I am banking on Anthony ending up in Jail. Mostly because he loves the fact that he drives like an ass and think he is above it because (stupid) cops give him cards to get out of tickets. One day those cards aren't going to help him.

GreatAmericanZero
12-02-2008, 12:36 PM
these past 2 days without Opie really showed that Opie is the most important part of the show

The show, especially today, is a show i would never listen to if it was like that regularly. I've heard Opie and Norton shows and they were good...felt like something was missing but good. Obviously O&A have been successful without Norton...but the show is terrible without Opie

every single break was about something expensive that Anthony is doing. Thats the whole show. Break about building a movie theater. Break about getting a hair transplant. Break about his new guns he bought....We get it, guns that you purchase are powerful!

and with his hair transplant thing..he is exactly like Howard. I will say what the O&A show do with his character makes for better radio than what "The Howard Stern Show" does with the same character..but they are both exactly the same. They are both whiney old millionaires surrounded by yes men. Just that the show surrounding O&A is much stronger (in my opinion). Atleast O&A don't have a robin quivers

celery
12-02-2008, 01:13 PM
these past 2 days without Opie really showed that Opie is the most important part of the show

The show, especially today, is a show i would never listen to if it was like that regularly. I've heard Opie and Norton shows and they were good...felt like something was missing but good. Obviously O&A have been successful without Norton...but the show is terrible without Opie

every single break was about something expensive that Anthony is doing. Thats the whole show. Break about building a movie theater. Break about getting a hair transplant. Break about his new guns he bought....We get it, guns that you purchase are powerful!

and with his hair transplant thing..he is exactly like Howard. I will say what the O&A show do with his character makes for better radio than what "The Howard Stern Show" does with the same character..but they are both exactly the same. They are both whiney old millionaires surrounded by yes men. Just that the show surrounding O&A is much stronger (in my opinion). Atleast O&A don't have a robin quivers

I give Ant some credit for talking about the hair transplantation on the show. It's shocking that he did it because I didn't even notice he was balding and it probably would've slipped under everyone's raders had he not brought it up.

I found it pretty strange yesterday that Ant was ranting about how we live in an music a-la-cart iPod age, and talk radio is the only true commodity radio stations have. This is exactly what's going to do their show in - as people tire of Ant's bigotry and out-of-touch rich white guy rants, they'll simply switch over to one of their many other options.

GreatAmericanZero
12-02-2008, 01:18 PM
This is exactly what's going to do their show in - as people tire of Ant's bigotry and out-of-touch rich white guy rants, they'll simply switch over to one of their many other options.

(ooo 666th post)


i agree about his "out-of-touch"ness..but hes right that radio needs talk show hosts. I just don't see any other options in non-political talk. O&A and R&F...what other quality comedy shows are there? And thats why i was so bummed when Anthony was obsessed with politics because there are already way too many political talk options. But i have no interest in that

SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez
12-02-2008, 01:24 PM
It's shocking that he did it because I didn't even notice he was balding and it probably would've slipped under everyone's raders had he not brought it up.

When you look like every single part of your body is dead or dying, stuff gets kinda lost in the rush.

conman823
12-02-2008, 07:10 PM
(ooo 666th post)
i agree about his "out-of-touch"ness..but hes right that radio needs talk show hosts. I just don't see any other options in non-political talk. O&A and R&F...what other quality comedy shows are there? And thats why i was so bummed when Anthony was obsessed with politics because there are already way too many political talk options. But i have no interest in that

Yes, radio does need good talk but the Lawyers and Management have cut the balls off of ALL entertaining shows. They can't even have naked women in the studio which is like "Shock Jock 101". The shows are just endless yada, yada, yada. At least we always had a Sex for Sam contest, Homeless Shopping Spree, or Voyer Bus to look forward too.

Philly was bad, but losing Boston was HORRIBLE. If I were Ant I would be shitting in my pants right now waiting for the other shoe to drop at CBS. SIRIUS/ xm might keep them for now, but next contract might be significantly less then past ones with the economy going the way it is. Opie will always have a radio gig, and he has mentioned in the past transitioning to a Management role which I could see. When that day comes what does Ant do?

CofyCrakCocaine
12-02-2008, 07:25 PM
Yes, radio does need good talk but the Lawyers and Management have cut the balls off of ALL entertaining shows. They can't even have naked women in the studio which is like "Shock Jock 101". The shows are just endless yada, yada, yada. At least we always had a Sex for Sam contest, Homeless Shopping Spree, or Voyer Bus to look forward too.

Philly was bad, but losing Boston was HORRIBLE. If I were Ant I would be shitting in my pants right now waiting for the other shoe to drop at CBS. SIRIUS/ xm might keep them for now, but next contract might be significantly less then past ones with the economy going the way it is. Opie will always have a radio gig, and he has mentioned in the past transitioning to a Management role which I could see. When that day comes what does Ant do?

I hear there's a new slot open on Hannity's show.

brettmojo
12-02-2008, 07:27 PM
Opie will always have a radio gig, and he has mentioned in the past transitioning to a Management role which I could see. When that day comes what does Ant do?

http://jfs.ohio.gov/ouc/Unemployed%20Worker.jpg

GreatAmericanZero
12-02-2008, 07:35 PM
Anthony could have a nice career in voice over work. Doing commercials, cartoons and such. don't know how that pays though

celery
12-02-2008, 07:36 PM
Yes, radio does need good talk but the Lawyers and Management have cut the balls off of ALL entertaining shows. They can't even have naked women in the studio which is like "Shock Jock 101". The shows are just endless yada, yada, yada. At least we always had a Sex for Sam contest, Homeless Shopping Spree, or Voyer Bus to look forward too.

Philly was bad, but losing Boston was HORRIBLE. If I were Ant I would be shitting in my pants right now waiting for the other shoe to drop at CBS. SIRIUS/ xm might keep them for now, but next contract might be significantly less then past ones with the economy going the way it is. Opie will always have a radio gig, and he has mentioned in the past transitioning to a Management role which I could see. When that day comes what does Ant do?

It's funny how Opie, the one with more secure career prospects, seems to live a pretty sane and financially responsible life. He's even invested in a restaurant, and though I haven't seen their books, is probably an asset and not a liability.

Ant's "investments"?


guns
sports cars
hair plugs
ridiculous home theatre (which will depreciate to about half its value the minute he installs it)
gambling
...

GreatAmericanZero
12-02-2008, 07:39 PM
It's funny how Opie, the one with more secure career prospects, seems to live a pretty sane and financially responsible life. He's even invested in a restaurant, and though I haven't seen their books, is probably an asset and not a liability.

Ant's "investments"?


guns
sports cars
hair plugs
ridiculous home theatre (which will depreciate to about half its value the minute he installs it)
gambling
...


with FH Rileys, i think the reason why Opie is promoting it less is because its always packed now with real people. Keep the slob pests out of there and let the business boom

conman823
12-02-2008, 10:53 PM
Anthony could have a nice career in voice over work. Doing commercials, cartoons and such. don't know how that pays though

Hey its a living, but it certainly doesn't support whats below.

It's funny how Opie, the one with more secure career prospects, seems to live a pretty sane and financially responsible life. He's even invested in a restaurant, and though I haven't seen their books, is probably an asset and not a liability.

Ant's "investments"?


guns
sports cars
hair plugs
ridiculous home theatre (which will depreciate to about half its value the minute he installs it)
gambling
...


Exactly, all that equals is White Trash Millionaire. A term which he HATES even if he plays it off like he doesn't.

Opie, IMO, is truely the guy whos done well for himself. A guy who came from a huge family with little to no money, understands his business and thinks about the future. This new "I'm Rich Bitch" Anthony is just sad. I miss OLD Anthony who knew he was lucky and loved his job. Its gonna be really sad (and lonely) when it all crashes down.

Again, losing Boston was a shock to ME and I don't have a nickels worth of care invested in the O&A Show.

conman823
12-02-2008, 10:54 PM
with FH Rileys, i think the reason why Opie is promoting it less is because its always packed now with real people. Keep the slob pests out of there and let the business boom

The poor "Real People" the night Dave was drunk and running around screaming. Fuckin wish I was there that night!!

SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez
12-03-2008, 01:14 AM
Philly was bad, but losing Boston was HORRIBLE. If I were Ant I would be shitting in my pants right now waiting for the other shoe to drop at CBS. SIRIUS/ xm might keep them for now, but next contract might be significantly less then past ones with the economy going the way it is. Opie will always have a radio gig, and he has mentioned in the past transitioning to a Management role which I could see. When that day comes what does Ant do?

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/e400a2a07f_noose02212008.jpg

TjM
12-03-2008, 03:21 AM
So the blacks are now stalking Ant on paltalk? :wacko:

GvacMobile
12-03-2008, 03:36 AM
Anthony just spent the last 10 minutes talking about guns, blacks, and Paltalk.

Is this a worst of?

GreatAmericanZero
12-03-2008, 03:52 AM
i will say this..i'll take anthony being racist over "gun talk" anyday. both are boring at this point, but the gun talk is sooooooooooo boring and identical every time. "I got a new gun, this is how powerful it is blah blah blah blah blah"

spainlinx0
12-03-2008, 08:03 AM
I didn't mind Anthony by himself. I liked the hair plug talk. Also, I really can't fault Anthony for what he spends his money on. It is my dream to build a home theater exactly the way he has described it, and if I had his money, I would do the exact same thing. I would also have a large house, play videogames, and just enjoy life. I'm sure he has a financial manager telling him what he can spend to stay rich so I doubt he will be going broke anytime soon. Also, like others said, he has voice talent and can fall back on that.

I kind of liked the laid back flow of the show just hanging out and talking about whatever. I understand how people could get tired about the Desert Eagle stuff, but whatever.

What I really can't stand is Laslow. The man does NOT know technology. He tries to come across as so smart because the rest of the show knows even less, but when you actually know about technology the guy comes across as a fucking idiot. I actually loved Jimmy making him look like an ass talking about new technologies. Even Jimmy who doesn't keep up with the stuff new more about technological trends than that fraud.

conman823
12-03-2008, 07:46 PM
i will say this..i'll take anthony being racist over "gun talk" anyday. both are boring at this point, but the gun talk is sooooooooooo boring and identical every time. "I got a new gun, this is how powerful it is blah blah blah blah blah"

Both are just drilled into the ground at this point, but we have new topics.

-"I got hair plugs (Hoo-Hoo tell'em Danny!)"

-"My home theater is great (Hoo-Hoo tell'em Ralph...I mean Keith!)"

Loved the caller who called in a said it was sounding like "The View", it just drove them crazy!

celery
12-03-2008, 07:58 PM
Anthony could have a nice career in voice over work. Doing commercials, cartoons and such. don't know how that pays though

Hey its a living, but it certainly doesn't support whats below.


Unless you strike gold, like Tom Kenny (Spongebob), Seth McFarlane, or any of the Simpsons cast. I'd imagine that voiceover, like radio, is a competitive field, with very little room at the top. Ant does have connections, depending on how many bridges he's burned with his nonsense. He'd definitely be in for some sleepless nights, though, trying to start a new career at age 50. Opie could walk into a management position the next day.

Name
12-06-2008, 04:29 AM
I give Ant some credit for talking about the hair transplantation on the show. It's shocking that he did it because I didn't even notice he was balding and it probably would've slipped under everyone's raders had he not brought it up....

I'm not sure whose radars could miss his hair plug doo-rag. First time in 5 years he hasn't had that hat on.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2s16j48.jpg

GreatAmericanZero
12-06-2008, 04:34 AM
I'm not sure whose radars could miss his hair plug doo-rag. First time in 5 years he hasn't had that hat on.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2s16j48.jpg

wow is that "al-queda" looking

Unless you strike gold, like Tom Kenny (Spongebob), Seth McFarlane, or any of the Simpsons cast. I'd imagine that voiceover, like radio, is a competitive field, with very little room at the top. Ant does have connections, depending on how many bridges he's burned with his nonsense. He'd definitely be in for some sleepless nights, though, trying to start a new career at age 50. Opie could walk into a management position the next day.

I think the biggest pure voice over career everyone would want has to be Billy West. He shows up on everything. Tom Kenny was actually a good stand up and comedy actor (Mr. Show) before becoming a cartoon voice man

YourAmishDaddy
12-06-2008, 06:55 AM
wow is that "al-queda" looking



Really?

http://i34.tinypic.com/1in691.jpg


http://i33.tinypic.com/eitth2.jpg

sailor
12-06-2008, 07:12 AM
I understand how people could get tired about the Desert Eagle stuff, but whatever.

how can ya get tired of the desert eagle?

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carlygirl
12-06-2008, 07:59 AM
I just love him. Did you HEAR the show when he was gone? PEEEEEEEEEEEU. :thumbdown: It was unlistenable without him.





Yup, that's me on that horse.

Gvac
12-06-2008, 08:28 AM
carlygirl
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Down South

OHHHHHH!!!!!!

brettmojo
12-06-2008, 09:08 AM
Really?

http://i34.tinypic.com/1in691.jpg


http://i33.tinypic.com/eitth2.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6641/hilarioustf5.jpg

tele7
12-06-2008, 09:27 AM
So much hatred and pent up anger in that little heart of his. It has to be eating away at him from the inside.

Name
12-06-2008, 09:40 AM
http://i36.tinypic.com/otpyjl.jpg

MisterSmith
12-06-2008, 09:45 AM
I just love him. Did you HEAR the show when he was gone? PEEEEEEEEEEEU. :thumbdown: It was unlistenable without him.


Yup, that's me on that horse.

Sorry, but I completely disagree. It wasn't the same show, but Opie & Jimmy were fun to listen to. It was very enjoyable and there weren't any insane rants.

brettmojo
12-06-2008, 09:54 AM
So much hatred and pent up anger in that little heart of his. It has to be eating away at him from the inside.
Careful. Don't mention his heart. A storm of black cocks and ass caves could be unleashed at any moment.

KatPw
12-06-2008, 10:35 AM
Wow, Ant had hair transplants? I hope he got a better person to do it than one of my patient's had, you can see every individual plug on the guy's head. Why not just man up and shave your head at that point.

boosterp
12-06-2008, 10:44 AM
Really?

http://i34.tinypic.com/1in691.jpg


http://i33.tinypic.com/eitth2.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/otpyjl.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Wow, Ant had hair transplants? I hope he got a better person to do it than one of my patient's had, you can see every individual plug on the guy's head. Why not just man up and shave your head at that point.

Hair plugs just look like they hurt.

Gvac
12-06-2008, 10:45 AM
Sorry, but I completely disagree. It wasn't the same show, but Opie & Jimmy were fun to listen to. It was very enjoyable and there weren't any insane rants.

Agreed.

Conversely, the shows with Ant and Jimmy without Opie were painful.

KatPw
12-06-2008, 10:47 AM
:l

Hair plugs just look like they hurt.
It can't be pleasant. And your head looks like someone went crazy with a hole puncher when they are done. Just creepy.

~Katja~
12-06-2008, 10:57 AM
I just love him. Did you HEAR the show when he was gone? PEEEEEEEEEEEU. :thumbdown: It was unlistenable without him.





Yup, that's me on that horse.

you mean the shows when Opie was gone, right? Cause a show without Opie is excatly as you describe.

YourAmishDaddy
12-06-2008, 11:15 AM
Priceless.

GreatAmericanZero
12-06-2008, 11:23 AM
Agreed.

Conversely, the shows with Ant and Jimmy without Opie were painful.

absolutely. Without Opie, every break was Anthony talking about something expensive he just did

they didn't cover any news, they stuck on subjects way too long and Anthony really just talked about himself. Opie moves the show along and knows the interesting topics and news to bring up so Ant and Jimmy can goof on it.

These days, Anthony is kinda replaceable. You put Opie with two really funny people and u have a great show. Opie with Bill Burr and Joe Derosa is a great show. Opie with Jim Norton and Rich Vos is a great show. Anthony...i don't think he has that ability

boosterp
12-06-2008, 12:51 PM
These days, Anthony is kinda replaceable. You put Opie with two really funny people and u have a great show. Opie with Bill Burr and Joe Derosa is a great show. Opie with Jim Norton and Rich Vos is a great show. Anthony...i don't think he has that ability

Yesh! Opie, lil Jimmy, and Burr.

The Ogre
12-06-2008, 02:45 PM
These days, Anthony is kinda replaceable. You put Opie with two really funny people and u have a great show. Opie with Bill Burr and Joe Derosa is a great show. Opie with Jim Norton and Rich Vos is a great show. Anthony...i don't think he has that ability


Shit yes. The Opie, Jimmy and Colin Quinn show was awesome. Colin is funnier and more intelligent than Ant, and having him around cut down on a lot of Jimmy's "LOLROBERTREEDAIDSLOL" crap, because it would invariably lead to a "shut up stupid" from Colin. It also made Opie take things a bit more seriously. There's been a shitty dynamic when Opie, Ant and Jimmy are together where it almost seems like they're punching a clock and are only in the same room together because that's what they've doing for the last decade. Mixing up the three of them is usually better these days.

Name
12-06-2008, 02:49 PM
These days, Anthony is kinda replaceable. You put Opie with two really funny people and u have a great show. Opie with Bill Burr and Joe Derosa is a great show. Opie with Jim Norton and Rich Vos is a great show. Anthony...i don't think he has that ability

Who's going to do the Reagan, Judge Smails and Lost in Space guy impressions. Come to think of it, is the newest impression the 1990 'Dice Rules' one?

brettmojo
12-06-2008, 02:51 PM
Shit yes. The Opie, Jimmy and Colin Quinn show was awesome. Colin is funnier and more intelligent than Ant, and having him around cut down on a lot of Jimmy's "LOLROBERTREEDAIDSLOL" crap,
Yeah, because there's been SOOOO MUCH of that the past few years.

GreatAmericanZero
12-06-2008, 02:53 PM
Shit yes. The Opie, Jimmy and Colin Quinn show was awesome. Colin is funnier and more intelligent than Ant, and having him around cut down on a lot of Jimmy's "LOLROBERTREEDAIDSLOL" crap, because it would invariably lead to a "shut up stupid" from Colin. It also made Opie take things a bit more seriously. There's been a shitty dynamic when Opie, Ant and Jimmy are together where it almost seems like they're punching a clock and are only in the same room together because that's what they've doing for the last decade. Mixing up the three of them is usually better these days.

i still think they put on a good show, but if you were to remove any 1 of the 3 out the equation, removing Opie would harm the show the most

boosterp
12-06-2008, 03:03 PM
i still think they put on a good show, but if you were to remove any 1 of the 3 out the equation, removing Opie would harm the show the most

I think taking jimmy off to would be a detriment. Opie has the skills, and without these two the show is dead.

GreatAmericanZero
12-06-2008, 03:13 PM
I think taking jimmy off to would be a detriment. Opie has the skills, and without these two the show is dead.

i'm one of the fanboys who thinks Jimmy Norton can do no wrong and i think he brings a real genuine voice to the show....like, while Opie and Anthony sometimes have to push a shitty movie or tell an exaggerated story, i believe that Norton always comes from an honest place and i think hes a very important part of that show

that being said, they have done some great shows when he wasn't around too...even though i love him on the show, the show wouldn't go to "shit" without him like it would without opie

The Ogre
12-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Yeah, because there's been SOOOO MUCH of that the past few years.

You're joking right? 99% of Jimmy's jokes are about pedophilia, AIDS or homosexual encounters. Oh wait, there's the super brilliant "bull and cuckold" horseshit that's been introduced over the last year. They have referenced Robert Reed having AIDS so much that they mock themselves for it. What show are you listening to?

The Ogre
12-06-2008, 04:33 PM
i still think they put on a good show, but if you were to remove any 1 of the 3 out the equation, removing Opie would harm the show the most

It's hard to tell from the post above, but I don't mind Jimmy at all as long as he's in with the right guests. It seems like when Colin Quinn, Nick Dipaolo, or Bill Burr are in he cuts down on the sexual deviant humor that he's beat to death over the years. He just focuses on interacting instead of trying to be shocking. I agree that he tends to have an honest perspective that O & A sometimes lack. He can also be an insanely funny motherfucker off the cuff, like with the "Ted the Ghost Hunter" bit. I'm just fucking sick of the humor he falls back to most of the time.

GreatAmericanZero
12-06-2008, 04:38 PM
It's hard to tell from the post above, but I don't mind Jimmy at all as long as he's in with the right guests. It seems like when Colin Quinn, Nick Dipaolo, or Bill Burr are in he cuts down on the sexual deviant humor that he's beat to death over the years. He just focuses on interacting instead of trying to be shocking. I agree that he tends to have an honest perspective that O & A sometimes lack. He can also be an insanely funny motherfucker off the cuff, like with the "Ted the Ghost Hunter" bit. I'm just fucking sick of the humor he falls back to most of the time.

perhaps. like i said, im "Jimmy Norton fanboy". He can do no wrong in my eyes...but i'll admit it

When i was reading his new book, there are 2 kinds of "jim norton laughs" that he gets from me. One is a regular laugh cuz its funny. The other is a laugh so hard i got to put the book down in my lap and just say to myself "oh yimmmmmmmmmmmy".

~Katja~
12-06-2008, 04:41 PM
perhaps. like i said, im "Jimmy Norton fanboy". He can do no wrong in my eyes...but i'll admit it

When i was reading his new book, there are 2 kinds of "jim norton laughs" that he gets from me. One is a regular laugh cuz its funny. The other is a laugh so hard i got to put the book down in my lap and just say to myself "oh yimmmmmmmmmmmy".

funny, I can totally see this in my head...

brettmojo
12-06-2008, 05:01 PM
You're joking right? 99% of Jimmy's jokes are about pedophilia, AIDS or homosexual encounters. Oh wait, there's the super brilliant "bull and cuckold" horseshit that's been introduced over the last year. They have referenced Robert Reed having AIDS so much that they mock themselves for it. What show are you listening to?
Since they started back on FM, except for maybe a little at first on FM, it really hasn't been the crutch that it was the years prior.

GreatAmericanZero
12-06-2008, 05:03 PM
Since they started back on FM, except for maybe a little at first on FM, it really hasn't been the crutch that it was the years prior.

i do think jimmy has grown comedically. I have his "yellow discipline" album and i love it, but a lot of the punchlines were "and then i raped her!". Compare it to the "Monster Rain" HBO special and the stuff hes doing now, i think hes way better (even though i loved the original stuff)

hydee
12-06-2008, 05:14 PM
I didn't mind Anthony by himself. I liked the hair plug talk. Also, I really can't fault Anthony for what he spends his money on. It is my dream to build a home theater exactly the way he has described it, and if I had his money, I would do the exact same thing. I would also have a large house, play videogames, and just enjoy life. I'm sure he has a financial manager telling him what he can spend to stay rich so I doubt he will be going broke anytime soon. Also, like others said, he has voice talent and can fall back on that.



With your attitude you will be poor in a matter of moments. Newly rich people make the same mistake over and over and over. Spending more money then they have brains until they run out of money and blame everyone on creation for it. Anthony shouldn't be used as a role model and people shouldn't want to be him.

He is a lonely man that ruined marriage for himself by purposely marrying a woman he knew he didn't want to marry, he has become a parody of a mid life crisis, and no one in the whole planet should be spending the money the way he is in these economic times. He is a racist ass that has some unfounded idea that he is some genius that knows it all. He treats women like shit, and he is a serial cheater.

Now his friends are laughing at him not with him over this stupid vanity based surgery.

Anthony needs to humble himself and try to get some of the heat back that they had before he ruined the show ranting like a child and dragging the show to a halt.

While he is doing that he should also say he is sorry to Opie for forgetting who got him where he is today.

carlygirl
12-07-2008, 04:36 AM
I think the show is peeeeu when any of the ensemble is out. I love when Bill B and Nic Dip are in.

3Setsof10
12-07-2008, 05:22 AM
Nice to see a thread about Anthony's lunacy still going at the end of the year.

conman823
12-07-2008, 08:36 AM
Nice to see a thread about Anthony's lunacy still going at the end of the year.

This thread might as well be a Sticky at this point.

conman823
12-07-2008, 08:39 AM
http://i36.tinypic.com/otpyjl.jpg

I can't remember the last time I really "LOL"ed at something on my computer screen, let along almost piss myself.:clap:

brettmojo
12-07-2008, 08:46 AM
This thread might as well be a Sticky at this point.
I'll 2nd that.

TjM
12-07-2008, 08:49 AM
Listening to the replay. He lost his effing mind (The Obama arguement with Billy B)

Gvac
12-07-2008, 08:50 AM
I think we should chip in and sent Ant a straight jacket on the one year anniversary of this thread!

Who's in?

hydee
12-07-2008, 09:02 AM
I think we should chip in and sent Ant a straight jacket on the one year anniversary of this thread!

Who's in?


I am itching to use my paypal for this purchase count me in. Also if we could get him a copy of the Constitution, a book on what Socialism is, and a book on capitalism that would be good too.

Think of is as a mental patient care package.

conman823
12-07-2008, 09:10 AM
I think we should chip in and sent Ant a straight jacket on the one year anniversary of this thread!

Who's in?

Have it a hardcover print version made for him.

LINNNNGGER LOOONGRRR!...on a different show

mongothetrucker
12-07-2008, 09:14 AM
absolutely. Without Opie, every break was Anthony talking about something expensive he just did

they didn't cover any news, they stuck on subjects way too long and Anthony really just talked about himself. Opie moves the show along and knows the interesting topics and news to bring up so Ant and Jimmy can goof on it.

These days, Anthony is kinda replaceable. You put Opie with two really funny people and u have a great show. Opie with Bill Burr and Joe Derosa is a great show. Opie with Jim Norton and Rich Vos is a great show. Anthony...i don't think he has that ability

I agree. The Patrice shows sucked because it was all about race and black stuff.

The Anthony shows sucked because it was all about new stuff and money.

Neither show I could relate to because I am white and poor. Opie is a radio guy and he gets it. Anthony is very funny, but he can't steer the ship.

ShowerBench
12-07-2008, 09:30 AM
Anthony has the intelligence and talent to put together jokes and lines. Unfortunately, his personality is fundamentally mean-spirited and low class. This prevents him from being entertaining because all he can do is launch cheap attacks on groups of people and boast about acquisitions or economic status.

scottinnj
12-07-2008, 10:15 AM
Listening to the replay. He lost his effing mind (The Obama arguement with Billy B)

They both did. They were both coming from "All politicians suck, but your politicians you vote for suck worse then mine."

GvacMobile
12-08-2008, 08:12 AM
Anthony hates Sleeves' Christmas song.

'Nuff said.

reillyluck
12-08-2008, 08:12 AM
fuck you anthony and friends!!!

Bob Impact
12-08-2008, 08:20 AM
Is anyone actually suprised?

KatPw
12-08-2008, 08:36 AM
Maybe it's the hair plugs, Ant's taste in music apparently leaked out of the incision sites.

reillyluck
12-08-2008, 08:38 AM
Because Sweet Caroline is the greatest song EVER, Right ANthony!!!!!

carlygirl
12-08-2008, 08:43 AM
Anthony hates Sleeves' Christmas song.

'Nuff said.


who could hate that song? maybe he is a little unstable....

brettmojo
12-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Maybe it's the hair plugs, Ant's taste in music apparently leaked out of the incision sites.
It's not plugs!!! IT'S HAIR RESTORATION MAAAANNNNNN!!!

Sharadoc
12-08-2008, 10:01 AM
With your attitude you will be poor in a matter of moments. Newly rich people make the same mistake over and over and over. Spending more money then they have brains until they run out of money and blame everyone on creation for it. Anthony shouldn't be used as a role model and people shouldn't want to be him.

He is a lonely man that ruined marriage for himself by purposely marrying a woman he knew he didn't want to marry, he has become a parody of a mid life crisis, and no one in the whole planet should be spending the money the way he is in these economic times. He is a racist ass that has some unfounded idea that he is some genius that knows it all. He treats women like shit, and he is a serial cheater.

Now his friends are laughing at him not with him over this stupid vanity based surgery.

Anthony needs to humble himself and try to get some of the heat back that they had before he ruined the show ranting like a child and dragging the show to a halt.

While he is doing that he should also say he is sorry to Opie for forgetting who got him where he is today.


Very well said. I have been a very loyal O&A fan since the first show I heard, when he brought in the tape of his Mom doing Me & Bobby McGee in Brother Joe's studio, drunk. I have never missed a day, other than vacation. In the past 6 months or so, I have changed the channel more often, solely because of Anthony. His racist, sexist, elitist ridiculous rants have brought tears to my eyes, knowing that the show I love is dying right before my eyes. The day he ranted against the Katrina victims was when I knew he had no heart.

As the O&A crowd has grown up, matured, had kids and responsible jobs - Anthony has remained the same. He used to be the same as his audience when they were young and irresponsible, now he insults his audience for growing up. The 20 year olds don't care about O&A, he needs to acknowledge the life that the 30, 40 and yes, even 50 year old fans are living now.

I will always be grateful to them, because through them, I found Ron & Fez. Based on today's show, I'm not the only one who sees R&F as the smart, progressive ones. Opie's not dumb.

I am so far away from their demographic, that my opinion doesn't matter to them. A married woman, with kids and a sensible haircut and Mom jeans, driving a station wagon. I pay the satellite bill every month, and as long as there is R&F on 202, I'll keep paying. O&A will NOT make me want to keep the satellite (especially since the music change).

NewYorkDragons80
12-08-2008, 11:24 AM
I will always be grateful to them, because through them, I found Ron & Fez. Based on today's show, I'm not the only one who sees R&F as the smart, progressive ones. Opie's not dumb.

I am so far away from their demographic, that my opinion doesn't matter to them. A married woman, with kids and a sensible haircut and Mom jeans, driving a station wagon. I pay the satellite bill every month, and as long as there is R&F on 202, I'll keep paying. O&A will NOT make me want to keep the satellite (especially since the music change).

I agree 100%. Back at WNEW, I loved both shows, but let's face it; Ron and Fez was the fun little immature show at night and Opie and Anthony was more topical. Today, we find that situation completely reversed. Ron and Fez is always topical, with a decidedly adult brand of humor. The buddays can go from impressions of Earl's dead grandmother having sex with historical figures to a serious discussion of morality or an interview with a renowned astronomer. There's nothing wrong with O&A being the sophomoric show on 202, but they are supposed to be the anchor and consistently fail to act as such. They do the over-prepared 6-9 show followed by the underprepared 9:30-10:30 show while Anthony oozes contempt that they have to even stay THAT late. In the past 4 months, the show has been nothing but guns and half-serious race-baiting. If it wasn't for Jimmy and some of the show's comedian friends, I would just listen to BBC in the morning.

foodcourtdruide
12-08-2008, 11:38 AM
I agree 100%. Back at WNEW, I loved both shows, but let's face it; Ron and Fez was the fun little immature show at night and Opie and Anthony was more topical. Today, we find that situation completely reversed. Ron and Fez is always topical, with a decidedly adult brand of humor. The buddays can go from impressions of Earl's dead grandmother having sex with historical figures to a serious discussion of morality or an interview with a renowned astronomer. There's nothing wrong with O&A being the sophomoric show on 202, but they are supposed to be the anchor and consistently fail to act as such. They do the over-prepared 6-9 show followed by the underprepared 9:30-10:30 show while Anthony oozes contempt that they have to even stay THAT late. In the past 4 months, the show has been nothing but guns and half-serious race-baiting. If it wasn't for Jimmy and some of the show's comedian friends, I would just listen to BBC in the morning.

I agree. However, in the beginning stages of satellite (post-subscription/pre-krock return) O&A were awesome. Back then, they remind me of what Ron and Fez are now. Topical, but often veering off into great stories or bits with interesting characters.

carlygirl
12-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Anthony hates Sleeves' Christmas song.

'Nuff said.

Listening to the replay. I think I need a new morning show.

CofyCrakCocaine
12-08-2008, 01:20 PM
x1000 all the mean things I've said about Ant over the past four months.

MisterSmith
12-08-2008, 01:27 PM
Very well said. I have been a very loyal O&A fan since the first show I heard, when he brought in the tape of his Mom doing Me & Bobby McGee in Brother Joe's studio, drunk. I have never missed a day, other than vacation. In the past 6 months or so, I have changed the channel more often, solely because of Anthony. His racist, sexist, elitist ridiculous rants have brought tears to my eyes, knowing that the show I love is dying right before my eyes. The day he ranted against the Katrina victims was when I knew he had no heart.

As the O&A crowd has grown up, matured, had kids and responsible jobs - Anthony has remained the same. He used to be the same as his audience when they were young and irresponsible, now he insults his audience for growing up. The 20 year olds don't care about O&A, he needs to acknowledge the life that the 30, 40 and yes, even 50 year old fans are living now.

I will always be grateful to them, because through them, I found Ron & Fez. Based on today's show, I'm not the only one who sees R&F as the smart, progressive ones. Opie's not dumb.

I am so far away from their demographic, that my opinion doesn't matter to them. A married woman, with kids and a sensible haircut and Mom jeans, driving a station wagon. I pay the satellite bill every month, and as long as there is R&F on 202, I'll keep paying. O&A will NOT make me want to keep the satellite (especially since the music change).

Great post! Except the last paragraph RE: female stuff, I think you have echoed my thoughts almost exactly.

TjM
12-08-2008, 01:32 PM
HE IS EFFING NUTS


He does not like the sleeves Xmas song.

Heather 8
12-08-2008, 01:33 PM
fuck you anthony and friends!!!

I love you, Reilly.

The dissection of Sleeves' song was tedious and old-fartish.

Don Stugots
12-08-2008, 01:35 PM
I love you, Reilly.

The dissection of Sleeves' song was tedious and old-fartish.

well, look who you are talking about.

MisterSmith
12-08-2008, 01:42 PM
Anthony is allowed to have his opinion, but there was no need for him to be such an a-hole today. I bet Anthony would have LOVED to have one of his songs trashed and dissected just because somebody didn't like the subject matter.

Don Stugots
12-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Anthony is allowed to have his opinion, but there was no need for him to be such an a-hole today. I bet Anthony would have LOVED to have one of his songs trashed and dissected just because somebody didn't like the subject matter.

i wouldnt care if he didnt like it.

RMPGP
12-08-2008, 01:50 PM
who could hate that song? maybe he is a little unstable....

Doesn't Fez not like it?

Oh wait...

Name
12-08-2008, 01:58 PM
Somehow the show has turned into Jay Sherman (The Critic) watching YouTube vids and audio clips..

http://i34.tinypic.com/1ryz4m.jpg

helterskeletor
12-08-2008, 01:59 PM
x1000 all the mean things I've said about Ant over the past four months.

He's losing his fucking mind.

helterskeletor
12-08-2008, 02:00 PM
Anthony is allowed to have his opinion, but there was no need for him to be such an a-hole today. I bet Anthony would have LOVED to have one of his songs trashed and dissected just because somebody didn't like the subject matter.

I don't know. He is the respected author of the line "Gonna 'lectric shock O.J."

Dude!
12-08-2008, 02:15 PM
any of the crew there or not there
on any given day
makes no difference

the show is always unlistenable