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TjM
01-29-2009, 09:44 AM
there's likely a little piece of plastic on your radio that says "on/off".....its not that difficult to use it

Numerous people already said they have turned it off. Look if you want to be a blind uberfan go right ahead. Sad fact is the show isn't what it once was and people are angry over the fact they have stopped listening to a show they once loved

paulisded
01-29-2009, 09:45 AM
I would suggest Made Cumsies joins Bill From Cleveland's board. They love show references there.

Heather 8
01-29-2009, 09:55 AM
I would suggest Made Cumsies joins Bill From Cleveland's board. They love show references there.

Do they?

TjM
01-29-2009, 09:55 AM
Do they?

:laugh:

brettmojo
01-29-2009, 10:04 AM
Do they?
YEEEESSSSSSS!!!

paulisded
01-29-2009, 10:12 AM
Numerous people already said they have turned it off. Look if you want to be a blind uberfan go right ahead. Sad fact is the show isn't what it once was and people are angry over the fact they have stopped listening to a show they once loved

The "turn it off" cliche has run its course. Why can't people objectively discuss the show without the fanboys getting all pissed off? I don't hate the show, but I'm not as obsessed with it these days as I was a few months ago. Guess what? I do turn the dial sometimes, especially when Ant is going on about Obama for the 1000th straight day.

TheMojoPin
01-29-2009, 10:15 AM
YEEEESSSSSSS!!!

Allllllllllllllllllllright.

celery
01-29-2009, 10:15 AM
I'm in complete and total shock that Ant's referring to him as "Barack Hussein" and seriously thinks he's making some clever political commentary.

And they spent two hours hyping up that Ant would soon reveal his new name for Obama.

TjM
01-29-2009, 10:17 AM
And they spent two hours hyping up that Ant would soon reveal his new name for Obama.

Eww

Dan 'Hampton
01-29-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm in complete and total shock that Ant's referring to him as "Barack Hussein" and seriously thinks he's making some clever political commentary.

And they spent two hours hyping up that Ant would soon reveal his new name for Obama.

It was mentioned in passing which makes me believe you have a low hyping threshold.
Sure the show isn't the same but you could say the same for Ron and Fez.

celery
01-29-2009, 10:40 AM
It was mentioned in passing which makes me believe you have a low hyping threshold.
Sure the show isn't the same but you could say the same for Ron and Fez.

"Mentioned in passing" multiple times. They hyped it like they would any other bit. And the hyping's not the problem - it's that Ant's material is hack.

Dan 'Hampton
01-29-2009, 10:42 AM
"Mentioned in passing" multiple times. They hyped it like they would any other bit. And the hyping's not the problem - it's that Ant's material is hack.

I agree it's hack, so hasn't most of the stupid bush crap from most media for the past 3 years. So you know what I do? I keep going with my day and don't over react when it's a lame 10 min.

brettmojo
01-29-2009, 10:43 AM
I agree it's hack, so hasn't most of the stupid bush crap from most media for the past 3 years. So you know what I do? I keep going with my day and don't over react when it's a lame 5 hrs.
Yup.

Dan 'Hampton
01-29-2009, 10:44 AM
Yup.

See you forgot to bold what you changed. That way it's funny for everyone.

celery
01-29-2009, 10:47 AM
I agree it's hack, so hasn't most of the stupid bush crap from most media for the past 3 years. So you know what I do? I keep going with my day and don't over react when it's a lame 10 min.

If it were 10 minutes, this thread wouldn't be 21 pages.

TjM
01-29-2009, 10:48 AM
I agree it's hack, so hasn't most of the stupid bush crap from most media for the past 3 years. So you know what I do? I keep going with my day and don't over react when it's a lame 10 min.

Howbout we just never comment on anything show related again. Unless it's positive

Dan 'Hampton
01-29-2009, 10:51 AM
If it were 10 minutes, this thread wouldn't be 21 pages.

It's the same 6 guys and two women who post it. It's the ER of Ron Fez dot net. At one time it was topical and pertinent, now it's lived past it's usefulness.

made cummsies
01-29-2009, 10:52 AM
terrestrial markets?
IMO terrestrial radio isn't the right venue for O&A, Ron & Fez, Stern, BLS, et. al.....they're all clearly more in their grove when they're not bound by the FCC (or in my case the CRTC)


Look if you want to be a blind uberfan go right ahead. Sad fact is the show isn't what it once was and people are angry over the fact they have stopped listening to a show they once loved
Who's being a blind uberfan? I like the O&A show and as previously stated I can only use the last 18 months as a benchmark of their talent and ability to entertain. I don't like all of what comes out of the boys but enough that I keep on listening and happily pay the $165/a. There are some things that Ant does (i.e. the Barrack Hussein) that are total hack but from my POV that's in the minority to the rest of his delivery.


I would suggest....
Would ya?

But seriously, no idea of the other board you mentioned. The reason I decided to set up shop on RF.net isn't to stir the shit or to blindly defend O&A but rather it seemed like a pretty cool place to hang my online hat. I like the variety of topics and seems to be a well run board so I'll stay.


Why can't people objectively discuss the show without the fanboys getting all pissed off?
Dunno, you saying "pissed off" is as overblown as me using "drama" to describe what's going on in this thread. Granted I haven't read all 1000+ posts (and not going to) but it seems like the last few pages have been rather civil.


Sure the show isn't the same but you could say the same for Ron and Fez.
Thank buddha, christ, mohamed, the great pumpkin or whoever you pray to that the shows aren't the same. Radio, and life, would be boring as fuck if everything was the same as it was 2 years ago.

TjM
01-29-2009, 10:59 AM
I like Ant and I think Jimmy is funny. I guess I'm a sheep.:ohmy:

Damn the obama/black rants have worn on me over the last year :ohmy:

epo
01-29-2009, 11:46 AM
There are some things that Ant does (i.e. the Barrack Hussein) that are total hack but from my POV that's in the minority to the rest of his delivery.

Which could be a valid point, but at this point the percentage of hackery has come to dominate his act.

celery
01-29-2009, 12:00 PM
It's the same 6 guys and two women who post it. It's the ER of Ron Fez dot net. At one time it was topical and pertinent, now it's lived past it's usefulness.

It's really not. Just at a glance, the last two pages have 15-20 distinct people posting.

Sue_Bender
01-29-2009, 12:08 PM
It's the same 6 guys and two women who post it. It's the ER of Ron Fez dot net. At one time it was topical and pertinent, now it's lived past it's usefulness.

Maybe no one else even cares enough about the show to post about it. :sad:

~Katja~
01-29-2009, 12:09 PM
It's really not. Just at a glance, the last two pages have 15-20 distinct people posting.

I agree, there are a lot of people contributing to this thread

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GreatAmericanZero
01-29-2009, 12:19 PM
The "turn it off" cliche has run its course. Why can't people objectively discuss the show without the fanboys getting all pissed off? I don't hate the show, but I'm not as obsessed with it these days as I was a few months ago. Guess what? I do turn the dial sometimes, especially when Ant is going on about Obama for the 1000th straight day.

the problem with the "turn off" thing is that i do like many parts of the show. i love opie and norton and you never know when they are going to say something really funny that makes the sitting through Ant's bullshit worth it. Everyone has to admit that the O&A show isn't particularly structured so you never know whats going to happen next..and a lot of whats happening next is still worth listening to

and i have turned off the show at times. I turned off "Ron & FEz" today when they had the photographer on just cuz i knew the segment wasn't going to be something i liked..its no big deal. Bad radio does happen from time to time...with Anthony its just too consistently bad

I'm in complete and total shock that Ant's referring to him as "Barack Hussein" and seriously thinks he's making some clever political commentary.

And they spent two hours hyping up that Ant would soon reveal his new name for Obama.

the problem with the "Barry Husein" thing is that its what people who hated Obama throughout the whole election have been calling him. Its him coming 2 years late on a joke. Its like, if he came into the studio and said "hey opie, i just saw this movie called "Austin Powers" so my new thing is to say "yeah baby yeah" and "you make me horny" cuz it was in the movie". Its just been so done

and they did hype his new name for at least two breaks. which is kinda embarrassing.

toolshed
01-29-2009, 12:22 PM
I stopped listening for a while, and came back to give them a fresh listen. The terrestial portion of this show is horrendous. Even if they hit on a decent topic, 10 minutes later it is break time. Then XM is just a wrap-up of the other side, with maybe one "naughty" bit or story to justify some cursing. And peanut butter hat made me sad in the way the first time you beat your dad in basketball. It was just depressing.

It just doesn't sound like anyone wants to be there anymore, with Ant being the first one out the door mentally, starting at about 10:15. And I don't want to hear "we stay past 11:00 a lot of the time..." If you are gonna be there......MAKE IT GOOD. At least try. You aren't being paid by the hour, so staying till 11:14 slowly petering out just to say you are there doesn't do anything for anyone.

GreatAmericanZero
01-29-2009, 12:25 PM
I stopped listening for a while, and came back to give them a fresh listen. The terrestial portion of this show is horrendous. Even if they hit on a decent topic, 10 minutes later it is break time. Then XM is just a wrap-up of the other side, with maybe one "naughty" bit or story to justify some cursing. And peanut butter hat made me sad in the way the first time you beat your dad in basketball. It was just depressing.

It just doesn't sound like anyone wants to be there anymore, with Ant being the first one out the door mentally, starting at about 10:15. And I don't want to hear "we stay past 11:00 a lot of the time..." If you are gonna be there......MAKE IT GOOD. At least try. You aren't being paid by the hour, so staying till 11:14 slowly petering out just to say you are there doesn't do anything for anyone.

omg you just reminded me of something. They seem to be trying to figure out the break inbetween the shows now with a "best of recap" of the terrestrial show til the xm show ( i guess a way to keep airing fresh material in between the two). But today they ended the terrestrial side at 8:55am and they didnt start the XM show until 9:30am. They played two separate commercial breaks. To me, that is just too long of a break. Half an hour? its just too much

K.C.
01-29-2009, 01:29 PM
What a gem of a show today.

Ant decides that Obama writing a letter to Ahmadinehjad basically telling him that if he stops talking shit and is willing to listen, the U.S. may be willing to have diplomatic talks with Iran is the equivalent of "apologizing to Iran, and admitting to that all of the problems of the Muslim world are a direct result of Western Policy"

Then I like the baiting he's doing by saying 'he's earning the nickname I gave him of Barry Hussein, by giving his first interview to an Arab TV station and writing that letter"

Yeah, Ant...because that whole Middle East thing isn't the biggest foreign policy problem in the world today. You're right he should have waited a couple years before paying any attention to that.


And then the stimulus package discussion was a joke. Yeah...less regulation. Because that worked so well when creeps like Madoff, or Enron, or Lehman Bros, were cooking books and thieving billions.

Serpico1103
01-29-2009, 02:03 PM
Today's show has pushed me to the brink of not listening anymore.
Ant screams at the listeners. You have a mic, turn down their volume and talk over them. The screaming makes you sound like a cunt.
And please, if you bring up a topic, Socialism, look into a little.
Sweden is considered by some criteria a socialist country. It isn't self destructing.
We are not a fully capitalist country, so to rail that socialism or communism doesn't work, is ignoring the fact that capitalism doesn't either.
The only argument is how much socialism we will allow, not whether we will allow any.

IWOWedGregBrady
01-29-2009, 02:12 PM
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it also seems like O&A are trying too hard to cover all their bases in "connecting with the fans" (twitter, facebook, etc)...their sudden push seems like something management is making them do.

In contrast, the way Ron&Fez extend themselves to the fans just seems so natural and something they genuinely want to do (extra shows, bar nights, etc). Makes me love them even more.

acinlet
01-29-2009, 05:51 PM
Been an O and A since 2001, but like many I can't stand the show anymore. For one its like a four hour trip to youtube but without a computer screen. I know Ron and Fez are good friends with them, but when Dave was doing his Opie impression and they replayed the hypnosis show I couldn't help but agree that what they were mocking as the O and A show sounded just like the actual show. I know Ron doesn't listen to them everyday but if he did regardless of his friendship with them I think he'd hear the same thing that we do.

Ron and Fez can do great shows in any format, any time in radio at any station anywhere,and they wouldn't blame lawyers for the show's content. Ron and Fez are team players that love to do radio. Yesterday while watching Fox News have a car chase reminded me of when O and A would be on the air during one and how great their commentary of it used to be. They always rip on Morning Zoo's and call them hack, but they do the exact same things as one now.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 06:10 PM
I think I have to finally give up. After 7 years I can't force myself to sit through it anymore.

Sad really cause I love Opie and his new energy and those moments of the show are so damned great. But I can't fucking sit through the rest of it anymore.

It's like a sick relative you love and know they're dying but can't help anymore.

I hate that I feel this way.

You're saying if you had a sick relative you'd abandon 'em while they're dying? Lame.

Fortunately, the O&A show isn't a relative of mine.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Today's show has pushed me to the brink of not listening anymore.
Ant screams at the listeners. You have a mic, turn down their volume and talk over them. The screaming makes you sound like a cunt.
And please, if you bring up a topic, Socialism, look into a little.
Sweden is considered by some criteria a socialist country. It isn't self destructing.
We are not a fully capitalist country, so to rail that socialism or communism doesn't work, is ignoring the fact that capitalism doesn't either.
The only argument is how much socialism we will allow, not whether we will allow any.

I just flipped the radio on first time today while on the drive home and within 5 seconds of my radio turning on, Anthony's screaming his fucking head off at some caller, saying "ITS SOCIALISM" (like that means any-fucking-thing you can comprehend you prejudiced cocksucker) and the victimization of poor Rush Limbaugh that NOBODY ELSE is talking about. This reminds me of one of those episodes where some character finds the fountain of youth then becomes a baby and it's crying all over the place while wetting its dipey. Sad shit.

Off went the radio, On went the music. Fuck that noise.

edit: Oh and Anthony is the prejudiced cocksucker, not the guy I'm quoting.

K.C.
01-29-2009, 06:36 PM
He's also recycling things verbatim from Hannity, now (to his credit, he admitted that he watches Hannity EVERY NIGHT, and 'screams at the TV while watching it').

I heard him throw out that $200,000 per job stat today, that Hannity's been pumping about the stimulus package, the last couple weeks.



The sweet irony of Ant's mental deterioration is that he used to tool on the Greaseman for talking in stupid voices, talking endlessly about guns, and hating blacks.

Hm.

Serpico1103
01-29-2009, 06:48 PM
It seems like after Melinda left, Anthony started to spin into delirium. First, he would scream at people who called up about black jack odds not being affected by the other players. Then he started screaming about his guns and the 2nd Amendment. Lastly, it was the campaign, and now the election, of Barack Obama.
He admits, that left alone his mind is self-destructive.
Hannity is an entertainment show. It is not news. Sorry. I know it is on the Fox News channel, but it is not news. It is entertainment, not any better than Entertainment Tonight or Maury Povich.

conman823
01-29-2009, 07:42 PM
[pretending to act like I read something funny]lmao....hahahah...good one[/pretending to act like I read something funny]


I thought that was a pest-requisite? :laugh:


Don't pretend to laugh because it was a dead-pan statement not a funny line.

&

If you thought that having niggermania.com as a homepage is a pest-requisite I am now officially sad to have considered myself an O&A Pest at one point. (This is also not a funny line, just so you know.)

conman823
01-29-2009, 07:45 PM
I just flipped the radio on first time today while on the drive home and within 5 seconds of my radio turning on, Anthony's screaming his fucking head off at some caller, saying "ITS SOCIALISM" (like that means any-fucking-thing you can comprehend you prejudiced cocksucker) and the victimization of poor Rush Limbaugh that NOBODY ELSE is talking about. This reminds me of one of those episodes where some character finds the fountain of youth then becomes a baby and it's crying all over the place while wetting its dipey. Sad shit.

Off went the radio, On went the music. Fuck that noise.

edit: Oh and Anthony is the prejudiced cocksucker, not the guy I'm quoting.

Yeah same here. I turned it on when I was on the way home from work this morning. The first 2 breaks were OK, then Opie said "up next we discuss the stimulus package" and I flipped it off.

Then on the way INTO work tonight on the re-play I caught the rant mid-conversation and I flipped it off.

Slumbag
01-29-2009, 07:49 PM
I just flipped the radio on first time today while on the drive home and within 5 seconds of my radio turning on, Anthony's screaming his fucking head off at some caller, saying "ITS SOCIALISM" (like that means any-fucking-thing you can comprehend you prejudiced cocksucker) and the victimization of poor Rush Limbaugh that NOBODY ELSE is talking about. This reminds me of one of those episodes where some character finds the fountain of youth then becomes a baby and it's crying all over the place while wetting its dipey. Sad shit.



I know Ant usually just yells for no reason, but that guy on the phone was a fucking idiot. Like, the worst kind of person.

It was the kind of person that watched Farenheit 9-11, and went out and quoted it to people like he figured it out. I think Ant was totally justified in screaming at that guy. He was an absolute fucking moron.

smiler grogan
01-29-2009, 07:54 PM
and the victimization of poor Rush Limbaugh that NOBODY ELSE is talking about.
Did he really say this? What does he mean by this statement?

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 07:57 PM
Did he really say this? What does he mean by this statement?

Hell if I know. It was at the end of a really long winded screamy sentence that included socialism, liberal, Obama, stimulus, and other Fox keywords.

PapaBear
01-29-2009, 07:57 PM
Did he really say this? What does he mean by this statement?
Seriously! Limbaugh was on top of the world during the Clinton years. Having a Democrat in office should be a goldmine for that asshole.

underdog
01-29-2009, 07:59 PM
The only part of the show I've been listening to is the XM side and there really isn't much Ant craziness on that part. It's great.

Plus, Jimmy usually wakes up around 9am and catches fire at some point. I highly suggest skipping the CBS portion.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 07:59 PM
I know Ant usually just yells for no reason, but that guy on the phone was a fucking idiot. Like, the worst kind of person.

It was the kind of person that watched Farenheit 9-11, and went out and quoted it to people like he figured it out. I think Ant was totally justified in screaming at that guy. He was an absolute fucking moron.

Oh, those people suck. The first thing my radio did was play Ant bellowing his ass off so I didn't hear a word the caller said.

Actually you know what sucks? Politics ad nauesum on a radio show that's supposed to make you laugh. By the way, since when in adult life has screaming ever meant you won an argument?

Serpico1103
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
Did he really say this? What does he mean by this statement?

Ant and Jimmy feel the media took Rush's statement out of context.
Their view is the Rush hopes Obama's policies fail because he disagrees with them. But, if they work how can you disagree with them?
You can think they will fail, but to "hope" they fail, puts your ego above the needs of everyone else.

made cummsies
01-29-2009, 08:01 PM
Yeah, Ant...because that whole Middle East thing isn't the biggest foreign policy problem in the world today. You're right he should have waited a couple years before paying any attention to that.
Absolutely its the biggest foreign policy issue facing the US and the rest of the world so sending a psychopath like Ahmadinejad a letter is the right way to go? Christ on a pony thats not even close to the kind of interaction that should be taking place. Strap that canklesaursus of a Sec State Hillary Clinton into a C-17 and send her ass to Iran and start some aggressive negotiations. And it was shameful that his first interview wasn't done with an American media outlet. He should have been looking inward and delivered a message of reassurance to Americans that the economy and other pressing issues are being worked on.


It seems like after Melinda left.....
The armchair psychiatrists on this board are amazing! How in the holy fuck do you know what was going through his mind when he wasn't on the air?

Hannity is an entertainment show. It is not news. Sorry. I know it is on the Fox News channel, but it is not news. It is entertainment, not any better than Entertainment Tonight or Maury Povich.
I'd agree with you but you're wrong. Hannity is editorial programming and a far cry different then ET or Maury.


Don't pretend to laugh because it was a dead-pan statement not a funny line.
Well we certainly agree about one thing, it wasn't funny. You might want to refresh your interpretation of deadpan however:
Deadpan is a form of comic delivery in which humor is presented without a change in emotion or facial expression, usually speaking in a monotonous manner. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpan)


If you thought that having niggermania.com as a homepage is a pest-requisite I am now officially sad to have considered myself an O&A Pest at one point. (This is also not a funny line, just so you know.)
Guess I should have included the with the niggermania comment :rolleyes:

underdog
01-29-2009, 08:04 PM
Absolutely its the biggest foreign policy issue facing the US and the rest of the world so sending a psychopath like Ahmadinejad a letter is the right way to go? Christ on a pony thats not even close to the kind of interaction that should be taking place. Strap that canklesaursus of a Sec State Hillary Clinton into a C-17 and send her ass to Iran and start some aggressive negotiations. And it was shameful that his first interview wasn't done with an American media outlet. He should have been looking inward and delivered a message of reassurance to Americans that the economy and other pressing issues are being worked on.

Good one!

Serpico1103
01-29-2009, 08:06 PM
The armchair psychiatrists on this board are amazing! How in the holy fuck do you know what was going through his mind when he wasn't on the air?

I'd agree with you but you're wrong. Hannity is editorial programming and a far cry different then ET or Maury.



I am not sure Melinda leaving was the cause of his insanity, but timing wise it syncs up. If there is another cause fine. But, even Anthony seems to believe being alone has caused him some level of mental issues.

ET is editorial as well. They are giving their opinion on current entertainment news.
Maury also presents issues of the day and comments on them.
Label each what you will, but they do not differ in their level of journalistic integrity.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 08:07 PM
Ant and Jimmy feel the media took Rush's statement out of context.
Their view is the Rush hopes Obama's policies fail because he disagrees with them. But, if they work how can you disagree with them?
You can think they will fail, but to "hope" they fail, puts your ego above the needs of everyone else.

Saying you "hope the President fails" pretty much is saying you're hoping the country fails because you're angry about the guy in charge. I tell you guys, if this were the Revolution that tub of shit would be one of the first turncoats.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
Cummsies,
A) your posts are too big for me to quote so I might paraphrase you a lil bit. srry.

B) this is just a messageboard. nobody here has a phD and those who do wouldn't openly admit it here. We don't like those kinds of people 'round here. They put armchair psychs outta business, fucking educated pricks.

C) I forget.

D) Fuck, i'm sleepy.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 08:11 PM
Oh yeah

there's a politics forum where we could talk about the Obama thing and what should be done over there. i dont wanna bog down this thread with a side discussion on politics. kinda the point of this thread is that theres too much politics not enuff funny

made cummsies
01-29-2009, 08:18 PM
ET is editorial as well. They are giving their opinion on current entertainment news.
Maury also presents issues of the day and comments on them.
Label each what you will, but they do not differ in their level of journalistic integrity. IMO everything that's presented on mainstream media has some degree of editorial bias. Fox is right, CNN is left, CNBC with that douche monkey Olbermann is WAY left, etc. so it stands to reason that even their news is going to be slanted one way or the other. But I find it impossible to accept the suggestion that Maury Povich has the same integrity or credibility as Sean Hannity. Maury goes out of his way to sensationalize situations and in many ways a shock jock on TV. That's leaps different then the format of Hannity's programming.


Saying you "hope the President fails" pretty much is saying you're hoping the country fails because you're angry about the guy in charge. I tell you guys, if this were the Revolution that tub of shit would be one of the first turncoats.
Agree that what Limbaugh said is self centered and not what America needs at the moment but when did he or any of his ilk do what's right for the country. That isn't their job.

made cummsies
01-29-2009, 08:22 PM
your posts are too big for me to quote so I might paraphrase you a lil bit. srry.
sorry brother, I get a little long winded at times :unsure: I'll try to keep the responses shorter

and yes, also tired here.....took a "daddy's little helper" (xanax) about 30 min ago so will be drifting off shortly to a pleasant night's sleep with just me and the voices in my head

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 08:22 PM
Agree that what Limbaugh said is self centered and not what America needs at the moment but when did he or any of his ilk do what's right for the country. That isn't their job.

Funny, they seem to think it is. They can do whatever they want, free country. It makes 'em rich, so it obviously works.

You have to take any news report with a grain of salt. I just take my Fox News with the full goddamn shaker.

conman823
01-29-2009, 09:13 PM
blah, blah, blah

My last comment to you is this: Opie and Anthony were the GREATEST FUCKING RADIO SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF FUCKING TALK RADIO. Back when WNEW was on fire I listen to that station like it was my crack! RON AND FEZ is what kept me sane at one point on the overnight shift of some shit hole job.

The point of this thread isn't Politics, Obama or Sean fuck Hannity. Its about how the show has declined in the past several years and how most people feel Anthony's "Mental Instablity" is the root cause. Again not the ONLY cause, but the root cause. Its a living testiment from true fans, some former hardcore fans, of how this radio genius has let money and his insane delusions contribute to said decline. How if he would just kinda sorta be like he used to be and stop with this insane ramblings the show might gain listeners instead of losing them in droves.

To quote another insane Fox News Personallity: "This is a no spin zone."

Anthony Cumia does not need you or anybody else to "defend" him, he has shown in the past he will sign in and defend himself if he sees the need. I am a fan who is on the verge of not listening again because of HIM! A man I loved years ago!

This thread is where I go to rant and vent about how I feel about the show. When I stop posting in this thread, it means I will have stopped listening.

Knowledged_one
01-29-2009, 09:34 PM
Lighten up francis

conman823
01-29-2009, 09:42 PM
Lighten up francis

I'm actually in a chipper mood tonight buddy! :smoke:

Pestz4Evah
01-29-2009, 10:31 PM
He's also recycling things verbatim from Hannity,.

...and Ann Coulter has been calling Obama "B. Hussein Obama" for A YEAR! (http://mediamatters.org/items/200802140009)

YourAmishDaddy
01-30-2009, 02:22 AM
You're saying if you had a sick relative you'd abandon 'em while they're dying? Lame.

Fortunately, the O&A show isn't a relative of mine.

By not being able to do anything I mean that they're not responding to what you are trying to do. And their behavior is which your help won't be accepted until they've bottomed out. So to speak.

K.C.
01-30-2009, 02:43 AM
Absolutely its the biggest foreign policy issue facing the US and the rest of the world so sending a psychopath like Ahmadinejad a letter is the right way to go? Christ on a pony thats not even close to the kind of interaction that should be taking place. Strap that canklesaursus of a Sec State Hillary Clinton into a C-17 and send her ass to Iran and start some aggressive negotiations. And it was shameful that his first interview wasn't done with an American media outlet. He should have been looking inward and delivered a message of reassurance to Americans that the economy and other pressing issues are being worked on.



Yeah, because 'aggressive negotiation' has worked with Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, and North Korea over the last eight years.

Oh, wait, Iraq is still a shithole (although I will concede it's MARGINALLY improved right now), Afghanistan has deteriorated completely, Putin has exalted himself as some new world czar in Russia, determined to build a ridiculous arsenal of weapons, and North Korea is worse now, and likely closer to nuclear capabilities then it was when Clinton left office.

Yeah...I'll stick with the new tactic.

And you guys act like the letter is his final solution to the problem. Far from it. The letter is a tactic. It shifts the pressure to Ahmadinejad. If he reacts hostile to it, it instantly rallies world support to the U.S., to where they can crack down on Iran through international pressure.

That risks serious harm to the Iranian economy, especially during the current world economic crisis because a lot of countries do business with them.

And something people seem to forget is that Ahmadinejad has no real power, other than that of a figure head. The Ayatollah is still the Supreme Leader of the country. Ahmadinejad runs the day to day operations inside the country, but he can easily be disposed by one word from the Ayatollah, especially with their 2009 elections coming up.

If Ahmadinejad embarrasses Iran internationally in handling this volley from Obama, he could be out.




And as far as delivering a message to Americans...he did...it was the inauguration speech.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-30-2009, 01:22 PM
By not being able to do anything I mean that they're not responding to what you are trying to do. And their behavior is which your help won't be accepted until they've bottomed out. So to speak.

Yea, I know what u mean as does anybody who lives long enough. But in the analogy was used in the context of the O&A show, which you've given up on and don't turn on anymore, implies that you would bail. And stuff.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-30-2009, 01:23 PM
Yeah, because 'aggressive negotiation' has worked with Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, and North Korea over the last eight years.

Oh, wait, Iraq is still a shithole (although I will concede it's MARGINALLY improved right now), Afghanistan has deteriorated completely, Putin has exalted himself as some new world czar in Russia, determined to build a ridiculous arsenal of weapons, and North Korea is worse now, and likely closer to nuclear capabilities then it was when Clinton left office.

Yeah...I'll stick with the new tactic.

And you guys act like the letter is his final solution to the problem. Far from it. The letter is a tactic. It shifts the pressure to Ahmadinejad. If he reacts hostile to it, it instantly rallies world support to the U.S., to where they can crack down on Iran through international pressure.

That risks serious harm to the Iranian economy, especially during the current world economic crisis because a lot of countries do business with them.

And something people seem to forget is that Ahmadinejad has no real power, other than that of a figure head. The Ayatollah is still the Supreme Leader of the country. Ahmadinejad runs the day to day operations inside the country, but he can easily be disposed by one word from the Ayatollah, especially with their 2009 elections coming up.

If Ahmadinejad embarrasses Iran internationally in handling this volley from Obama, he could be out.




And as far as delivering a message to Americans...he did...it was the inauguration speech.

Politics forum please. We want to keep this thread on course with how much everyone can't stand the direction ANTHONY is going.

For what it's worth, I don't agree with alot of what you're saying.

GreatAmericanZero
01-30-2009, 01:28 PM
i dont think the problem with Anthony is his politics, its how he handles it in the "this is serious, let me talk down to listeners and not say anything funny"

anyone who agrees with Anthony and like his rants can not say that if he was a lefty and was doing "anti- george w bush" rants in the same manner he does the anti-Obama rants that it would be great radio.

Serpico1103
01-30-2009, 02:39 PM
i dont think the problem with Anthony is his politics, its how he handles it in the "this is serious, let me talk down to listeners and not say anything funny"

anyone who agrees with Anthony and like his rants can not say that if he was a lefty and was doing "anti- george w bush" rants in the same manner he does the anti-Obama rants that it would be great radio.

It is less his point of view and more how he delivers it and how obviously slanted his "research" into the issues is.
Another example is comparing the Black Panthers to the KKK. You may not like either or both, but it is a poor comparison. Just another example of a knee jerk reaction from a sheltered close-minded self-centered loner.

GreatAmericanZero
01-30-2009, 02:43 PM
It is less his point of view and more how he delivers it and how obviously slanted his "research" into the issues is.
Another example is comparing the Black Panthers to the KKK. You may not like either or both, but it is a poor comparison. Just another example of a knee jerk reaction from a sheltered close-minded self-centered loner.

i remember how much Howard Stern suuuuuuuuucked when he was really promoting John Kerry and becoming hugely anti-bush. I think O&A even goofed on him about it.

so its not that any of us can't handle a different P.O.V. on the radio as much as..".can't you just be funny and not try to sell me on an ideology this morning?"

i mention how i think Anthony is going down the same road as Janeane Garofolo and Dennis Miller where they were all humorists at some point and they gave it up to be political folks. I'm sure all 3 of them, when called out about not being funny anymore, would say "fuck you, i'll do what i want with my career". But i think when a funny person gets the same reaction talking about politics and not having the pressure of being funny, its just so much easier for them. So Anthony is a political blowhard cuz its easier. Sucks for us

CofyCrakCocaine
01-30-2009, 03:01 PM
Maybe he's trying to derive meaning from his career like how they were angrily accusing Sean Penn of doing earlier this week. As such, he becomes the staunchion of the right wing on the dick jokes show.

made cummsies
01-30-2009, 04:26 PM
Funny, they seem to think it is. They can do whatever they want, free country. It makes 'em rich, so it obviously works.

You have to take any news report with a grain of salt. I just take my Fox News with the full goddamn shaker.
It really is an interesting balancing act. On one hand you have the first amendment (I'm a Canadian but know a little bit about my great neighbors to the south) and on the other there would seem to be an inherent requirement for any organization that calls themselves a news outlet to deliver a fair and balanced message. It comes down to the individual reading/listening/watching any content to make their own decision as to how much is editorial and how much is fact.

And yes, even though I'd consider myself right of center with respect to some topics I realize that when watching Fox I'm getting something less then objective.


My last comment to you is this: Opie and Anthony were the GREATEST FUCKING RADIO SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF FUCKING TALK RADIO. Back when WNEW was on fire I listen to that station like it was my crack! RON AND FEZ is what kept me sane at one point on the overnight shift of some shit hole job.

Anthony Cumia does not need you or anybody else to "defend" him, he has shown in the past he will sign in and defend himself if he sees the need. I am a fan who is on the verge of not listening again because of HIM! A man I loved years ago!

This thread is where I go to rant and vent about how I feel about the show. When I stop posting in this thread, it means I will have stopped listening.
"last comment"? no need to pout

As I've stated a couple of times I'm listening to O&A with only 18 months of history. I still love the show and the interaction between the boys and their guests. That you or others don't, for whatever reason, is unfortunate but a reality with anything. O&A has likely changed, you've likely changed...if the two no longer synch then get over it and move on.

I'm not defending Ant so much as explaining why it is I enjoy the show.

That you think this thread is here for you to "rant and vent" about he show is great. You've found your outlet. That IMO is no different then Opie, Ant, Yimmy, Ron, Fez, etc. using their platform to "rant and vent".


Lighten up francis
fuck sakes, I read that this morning and have been chuckling about it all day


anyone who agrees with Anthony and like his rants can not say that if he was a lefty and was doing "anti- george w bush" rants in the same manner he does the anti-Obama rants that it would be great radio.
Of course I wouldn't think it would be great radio and I likely wouldn't listen. Same reason why I simply can't watch Olbermann regardless of who he has as a guest. The minute he comes on I change the channel.


i mention how i think Anthony is going down the same road as Janeane Garofolo and Dennis Miller where they were all humorists at some point and they gave it up to be political folks. I'm sure all 3 of them, when called out about not being funny anymore, would say "fuck you, i'll do what i want with my career". But i think when a funny person gets the same reaction talking about politics and not having the pressure of being funny, its just so much easier for them. So Anthony is a political blowhard cuz its easier. Sucks for us
That's an interesting comparison. Not a surprise that I've never thought that Garofolo was ever funny but Miller (waz wrong with the comic we got :laugh: ) was a comedic god in the early 90's but has definitely changed for the worse and seems to have lost his direction as to what kind of entertainer he wants to be.

GreatAmericanZero
01-30-2009, 05:00 PM
Of course I wouldn't think it would be great radio and I likely wouldn't listen. Same reason why I simply can't watch Olbermann regardless of who he has as a guest. The minute he comes on I change the channel.



That's an interesting comparison. Not a surprise that I've never thought that Garofolo was ever funny but Miller (waz wrong with the comic we got :laugh: ) was a comedic god in the early 90's but has definitely changed for the worse and seems to have lost his direction as to what kind of entertainer he wants to be.

u just have to have an open mind to look at it from the other side. People make a big deal about "the conservatives are right" or "the liberals are right" but the fact is, its 40% believe one side or the other is right. So it shouldn't freak anyone out when someone believes one ideology or the other.

I think the o&a audience is probably the same way, 40% are conservatives and 40% are liberals (the other 20% don't give a fuck). but when Anthony wants to steer the direction into a completely political one, they are probably isolating over 50% of the audience. You got the liberals who don't want to listen cuz they don't want to hear a POV they disagree with, and then you get the people like me who just wants to hear something funny and not political. since i've been listening since the clinton administration, i've heard the show when the democrats are in office and when the republicans were in office and it has never been like this (in fact, when Anthony first said he was a republican on the WNEW show i remember it surprising me).

Also, the audience of conservatives that want to hear that kinda radio..lets be honest, there are way better places to hear conservative talk than the O&A show. Rush and Hannity and countless others do a very good job at it. They atleast sound like they know what they are talking about where a schlub like me can't easily point out "but...but this is bullshit and i know this from my very limited political knowledge".

i just see this direction of the show to be a huge mistake if they keep it up

NewYorkDragons80
01-30-2009, 06:58 PM
there's likely a little piece of plastic on your radio that says "on/off".....its not that difficult to use it

That's an acceptable argument for terrestrial radio. However, when I pay a subscription fee, I have a right to ask you to stop bitching about your 6 hour workday and start giving a shit.

EDIT: I just saw Katja's list and I'm in the top 15. Wow, I'm a big-time hater!!!

conman823
01-30-2009, 08:43 PM
I think the o&a audience is probably the same way, 40% are conservatives and 40% are liberals (the other 20% don't give a fuck). but when Anthony wants to steer the direction into a completely political one, they are probably isolating over 50% of the audience.

i just see this direction of the show to be a huge mistake if they keep it up

Also Opie declaring "This is great radio" every time Ant screams at a caller translates into "This is lazy radio, let this nut job scream and I'm gonna eat my yogurt."

How about Ant comes into work and says "I worked out a great bit last night, its gonna kill." Instead of "I was at niggermania.com last night, then when over to FOXnews.com I'm prepared for my show today."

MC Pee Pants
01-30-2009, 09:15 PM
Also Opie declaring "This is great radio" every time Ant screams at a caller translates into "This is lazy radio, let this nut job scream and I'm gonna eat my yogurt."

How about Ant comes into work and says "I worked out a great bit last night, its gonna kill." Instead of "I was at niggermania.com last night, then when over to FOXnews.com I'm prepared for my show today."

Yea man, I might be a little late on this but Danny's little rant the other day fucking SUCKED! When he said "i got an an animal on the phone" I wanted to die. It was so predictable and stupid. That dumb fuck should have covered his ass better by not asking some dumb bitch at Circuit City, and if any other race answered the phone they would have treated him the same way because they're going out of business.... who gives
a fuck?

celery
02-04-2009, 09:19 AM
So, has Ant improved some this week, or has nobody really been listening?

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Well just my 2 Cents...

I grew to enjoy O and A from their honesty. I gave up on Howard, he stopped being honest.
When I become a listener and then a fan of any radio show the honesty is usually the factor.
When I make that investment to listen daily to any show, I am willing to put up with growth and change of personality in the said host as long as it is HONEST.
Anthony's change and growth could have been predicted...and it is HONEST.
He spent a lot of time alone as a child, he was around guns, he had racist parents etc.
As a single man, it appears he is living his childhood dreams...I admire him.

Either you like him or you don't, or you haven't experienced many changes in life.

I understand him, I admire him and when he ceases being honest...I will move along.

paulisded
02-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Well just my 2 Cents...

I grew to enjoy O and A from their honesty. I gave up on Howard, he stopped being honest.
When I become a listener and then a fan of any radio show the honesty is usually the factor.
When I make that investment to listen daily to any show, I am willing to put up with growth and change of personality in the said host as long as it is HONEST.
Anthony's change and growth could have been predicted...and it is HONEST.
He spent a lot of time alone as a child, he was around guns, he had racist parents etc.
As a single man, it appears he is living his childhood dreams...I admire him.

Either you like him or you don't, or you haven't experienced many changes in life.

I understand him, I admire him and when he ceases being honest...I will move along.

www.fredfrombroolyn.com - Sunday through Thursday, 8 p.m. to whenever the fuck he wants to get off the air!

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 10:30 AM
www.fredfrombroolyn.com - Sunday through Thursday, 8 p.m. to whenever the fuck he wants to get off the air!

:drunk:

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 01:50 PM
Well just my 2 Cents...

I grew to enjoy O and A from their honesty. I gave up on Howard, he stopped being honest.
When I become a listener and then a fan of any radio show the honesty is usually the factor.
When I make that investment to listen daily to any show, I am willing to put up with growth and change of personality in the said host as long as it is HONEST.
Anthony's change and growth could have been predicted...and it is HONEST.
He spent a lot of time alone as a child, he was around guns, he had racist parents etc.
As a single man, it appears he is living his childhood dreams...I admire him.

Either you like him or you don't, or you haven't experienced many changes in life.

I understand him, I admire him and when he ceases being honest...I will move along.

If someone is honest and not funny, I don't want to listen.
When he goes on his racist and gun rights rants they are not funny. They are the sad rantings of, as you said, a child.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 01:52 PM
his whole thing about race today and how black people and white people can never get along or be "in sync" with eachother cuz they are too different to ever get along showed the intelligence and understanding of..well a high school dropout

K.C.
02-04-2009, 02:41 PM
Well just my 2 Cents...

I grew to enjoy O and A from their honesty. I gave up on Howard, he stopped being honest.
When I become a listener and then a fan of any radio show the honesty is usually the factor.
When I make that investment to listen daily to any show, I am willing to put up with growth and change of personality in the said host as long as it is HONEST.
Anthony's change and growth could have been predicted...and it is HONEST.
He spent a lot of time alone as a child, he was around guns, he had racist parents etc.
As a single man, it appears he is living his childhood dreams...I admire him.

Either you like him or you don't, or you haven't experienced many changes in life.

I understand him, I admire him and when he ceases being honest...I will move along.

See, we couldn't be further apart on this. Because I think Anthony is inherently intellectually dishonest.

I find it difficult to believe that he TRULY believes some of the stuff he says, and instead, creates his half-assed arguments to validate points of view that he knows are crazy (and because it's easier and makes for crisper radio).

Then again, I may just give him too much credit...he may truly believe everything he says, and he's just a maniac.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 02:56 PM
his whole thing about race today and how black people and white people can never get along or be "in sync" with eachother cuz they are too different to ever get along showed the intelligence and understanding of..well a high school dropout

I'm a High School drop out too...what are you sayin'? I think he is a complete realist, sure there are exceptions...but the truth may hurt a delusional college boy with limited life experience.
I guess its safe to assume The Zero Family never participated in white flight, or maybe their delusional offspring doesn't know why he comes from where he does.
I wanna see where you are in ten years Pompous College Boy.

I laugh a lot during his rants... to hide the scarey reality that it is the truth.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm a High School drop out too...what are you sayin'? I think he a complete realist, sure there are exceptions...but the truth may hurt a delusional college boy with limited life e4experience.
I guess its safe to assume The Zero Family never participated in white flight, or maybe their delusional offspring doesn't know why he coms from where he does.
I wanna see where you are in ten years Pompous College Boy.

I laugh a lot during his rants... to hide the scarey reality that it is the truth.

White flight? How about the fleeing from the trashy Cumia family. Anthony seems to forget the trash that he grew up in. And he wasn't raised by blacks.
His father never held a real job and for the most part abandoned his kids. Yeah, whites are better than blacks.

He can have his believes, it is how he expresses them. He just screams and stoops his feet. Wahh, taxes, wahh, my guns, wahh, blacks.
Taxes? people are losing their jobs and he wants sympathy because he may have to pay an extra couple thousand on his million plus salary? Poor baby.
Guns? He has them. Stop crying about the 2nd Amendment that you don't understand.
Blacks? You don't work with any, you drive alone to your house in a neighborhood with any blacks. Let it go.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 03:03 PM
I'm a High School drop out too...what are you sayin'? I think he is a complete realist, sure there are exceptions...but the truth may hurt a delusional college boy with limited life experience.
I guess its safe to assume The Zero Family never participated in white flight, or maybe their delusional offspring doesn't know why he comes from where he does.
I wanna see where you are in ten years Pompous College Boy.

I laugh a lot during his rants... to hide the scarey reality that it is the truth.

but you are also from a different generation. i think a lot of people born in the 60s and before do believe in what Anthony says. But i do think its an older person's POV. I'm from Long Island just like Anthony and i don't think people my age care that much about race. its just boring to us (and there are exceptions of course, but overall i think my generation is much more mellow when it comes to those issues)

but at the end of the day, O&A want younger listeners. Its who advertisers want and for their own ego they want to be hip and relevant. I just hear anthony and i feel hes out of touch and i can't relate to anything that he says anymore

meanmrbill
02-04-2009, 03:05 PM
White flight? How about the fleeing from the trashy Cumia family. Anthony seems to forget the trash that he grew up in. And he wasn't raised by blacks.
His father never held a real job and for the most part abandoned his kids. Yeah, whites are better than blacks.

He can have his believes, it is how he expresses them. He just screams and stoops his feet. Wahh, taxes, wahh, my guns, wahh, blacks.
Taxes? people are losing their jobs and he wants sympathy because he may have to pay an extra couple thousand on his million plus salary? Poor baby.
Guns? He has them. Stop crying about the 2nd Amendment that you don't understand.
Blacks? You don't work with any, you drive alone to your house in a neighborhood with any blacks. Let it go.


Proofreading=Greater Credibility

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 03:09 PM
[QUOTE=meanmrbill;2107968]Proofreading=Greater Credibility[/QUOTE

I didnt present facts that need credibility. But I rushed.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 03:13 PM
White flight? How about the fleeing from the trashy Cumia family. Anthony seems to forget the trash that he grew up in. And he wasn't raised by blacks.
His father never held a real job and for the most part abandoned his kids. Yeah, whites are better than blacks.

He can have his believes, it is how he expresses them. He just screams and stoops his feet. Wahh, taxes, wahh, my guns, wahh, blacks.
Taxes? people are losing their jobs and he wants sympathy because he may have to pay an extra couple thousand on his million plus salary? Poor baby.
Guns? He has them. Stop crying about the 2nd Amendment that you don't understand.
Blacks? You don't work with any, you drive alone to your house in a neighborhood with any blacks. Let it go.

You appear to dislike Ant a bit...why listen at all?

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 03:18 PM
but you are also from a different generation. i think a lot of people born in the 60s and before do believe in what Anthony says. But i do think its an older person's POV.

Could that be because we have seen what you have only read about?
What if he isn't wrong? This country has had Civil Wars before.

I pray he isn't right...but I know that he is.

paulisded
02-04-2009, 03:21 PM
Granted, I live in hayseed land, but even here there has been major changes in race relations over the past two decades. When I graduated high school in '81 (god I'm old), we had a grand total of 2 blacks in a class of 550. In college, I didn't meet many more. Obviously, there was little interaction between races in my community.

My son graduated high school two years ago, and it's a completely different situation. He was surrounded by every race and nationality. At the same time, my sister has had two children with a black guy she's been with for over ten years, and mixed couples no longer even cause a raised eyebrow. I'd bet there are very few people of that generation who don't routinely associate with other nationalities.

Ant may be correct when it comes to people in his age group (or financial status), but I think the times have changed quite a bit for those 25 or younger.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 03:22 PM
Could that be because we have seen what you have only read about?
What if he isn't wrong? This country has had Civil Wars before.

I pray he isn't right...but I know that he is.

yep you guys have seen what i only read about. I'll admit it. Never seen segregation. Never seen a race riot. Never been to woodstock. I was born in the 1980s

but i am 25 now. I am an adult

And if Anthony wants to do a show that appeals to the 45-and-older crowd, he is more than welcome to do that. There are plenty of shows that do that and are quite successful. But throughout their history they always billed themselves as the "hip edgy show" while Howard Stern was the "sad old man, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn".

If thats where they want to be, more power to them. I just don't think it is where they want to be

K.C.
02-04-2009, 03:25 PM
I'm a High School drop out too...what are you sayin'? I think he is a complete realist, sure there are exceptions...but the truth may hurt a delusional college boy with limited life experience.
I guess its safe to assume The Zero Family never participated in white flight, or maybe their delusional offspring doesn't know why he comes from where he does.
I wanna see where you are in ten years Pompous College Boy.

I laugh a lot during his rants... to hide the scarey reality that it is the truth.

How can anyone who goes from his radio studio to his mansion and plays video games while on paltalk all day be a realist??

I get that the guy came from...meager...beginnings, but he's so far removed from reality NOW it's ridiculous.

The biggest irony of it is that they used to accuse Stern of the same thing for the same reason.

I deal with more urban poverty and more people of different racial and ethnic backgrounds in a week than he probably sees in a year.

And while I have no problem with a difference of opinion, his opinion is based on an out of touch view of reality, and sheer ignorance.

Gvac
02-04-2009, 03:30 PM
Every experience throughout our lives helps shape what kind of person a man becomes. Successes, failures, love and heartbreak, etc. Add in fame and wealth, and everyone handles it a bit differently.

The Anthony Cumia of today is a LOT different than the one we knew 10 years ago, or at least our perception of him is.

I don't think it's a dislike that has so many people upset at how we view Anthony today, Fred; just a disappointment.

He was "one of us" for so long and now he's become "one of them."

Of course that's his right, but it doesn't mean it will endear him to everyone.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 03:33 PM
He was "one of us" for so long and now he's become "one of them."



perfect

K.C.
02-04-2009, 03:35 PM
"one of them."


http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/07/31/ben-linus-riddler.jpg

kdubya
02-04-2009, 03:42 PM
his whole thing about race today and how black people and white people can never get along or be "in sync" with eachother cuz they are too different to ever get along showed the intelligence and understanding of..well a high school dropout

What got me was he was listening to a clip from a crazy southern black guy and used it as an example of black people. I bet you can find clips of crazy southern white guys saying shit just as crazy. He is very selective in the examples he gives

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 03:45 PM
What got me was he was listening to a clip from a crazy southern black guy and used it as an example of black people. I bet you can find clips of crazy southern white guys saying shit just as crazy. He is very selective in the examples he gives

i was in-and-out of the office during that segment but a woman called up to call him out on that. Anthony said that he agreed but then changed it to "how come blacks are 10% of the population yet 50% of the prison population? its because we are different and blacks don't fit into society" or something like that. The caller wasn't good at defending a point (they never are) and didn't mention anything like poverty, dense ethnic population in run down urban areas, cycle of single mothers with no father figure, she just answered with "i guess its just the way it is". But i didn't hear much of that segment cuz i was in-and-out and i don't record the show when im out of the office anymore

K.C.
02-04-2009, 03:52 PM
i was in-and-out of the office during that segment but a woman called up to call him out on that. Anthony said that he agreed but then changed it to "how come blacks are 10% of the population yet 50% of the prison population? its because we are different and blacks don't fit into society" or something like that. The caller wasn't good at defending a point (they never are) and didn't mention anything like poverty, dense ethnic population in run down urban areas, cycle of single mothers with no father figure, she just answered with "i guess its just the way it is". But i didn't hear much of that segment cuz i was in-and-out and i don't record the show when im out of the office anymore

It's actually 40% black. Whites are 35%, Latinos 20%.

And blacks are a little less than 15% of the total population. So his numbers are a little skewed.

But Ant could never accept the poverty argument anyway, because it could lead to him being trapped into admitting that paying taxes might actually be beneficial.

So he'll have to stick with the 'blacks are more genetically prone to crime' argument.

:blink:

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 03:55 PM
It's actually 40% black. Whites are 35%, Latinos 20%.

And blacks are a little less than 15% of the total population. So his numbers are a little skewed.

But Ant could never accept the poverty argument anyway, because it could lead to him being trapped into admitting that paying taxes might actually be beneficial.

So he'll have to stick with the 'blacks are more genetically prone to crime' argument.

:blink:

he'll say "I was poor too! and i made something of myself! Waaaaaaaah!"

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 03:55 PM
You appear to dislike Ant a bit...why listen at all?

I dislike his rants. So, yes, I turn off the show when he starts one. I was getting close to not listening any more near the end of the campaign. But, he has seemed to slow down with his tantrums.
I think Ant is tied for funniest guy on the radio. But, his rants are idiotic and unfunny.

conman823
02-04-2009, 04:01 PM
I'm a High School drop out too...what are you sayin'? I think he is a complete realist, sure there are exceptions...but the truth may hurt a delusional college boy with limited life experience.
I guess its safe to assume The Zero Family never participated in white flight, or maybe their delusional offspring doesn't know why he comes from where he does.
I wanna see where you are in ten years Pompous College Boy.

Disagree & get attacked. Love having you in this thread Fred.


Ant may be correct when it comes to people in his age group (or financial status), but I think the times have changed quite a bit for those 25 or younger.

Exactly, it most cases, in most major cities. I do believe I'm more "cultured" for going to NYC Schools with so many races/religions. I also have cousins who live hour and a half away who haven't seen a Black Person except on TV. He's right that there's a long way to go, but after his generation dies off it will be a hell of a lot easier.


The biggest irony of it is that they used to accuse Stern of the same thing for the same reason.

This is the "honesty" other people praise him for.:lol:

I don't think it's a dislike that has so many people upset at how we view Anthony today, Fred; just a disappointment.

He was "one of us" for so long and now he's become "one of them."

Of course that's his right, but it doesn't mean it will endear him to everyone.

Thanks for keeping the thread on point GVAC. I think this is viewed a a hater thread when really, if anyone looks at the 1st page before the post, they will see its more of "Why is Ant like this now" thread.

What got me was he was listening to a clip from a crazy southern black guy and used it as an example of black people. I bet you can find clips of crazy southern white guys saying shit just as crazy. He is very selective in the examples he gives

My chick showed me a wifeswap episode yesterday with white trash who brush their teeth with butter and clay; also they don't clean the house and think its fine.

brettmojo
02-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Could that be because we have seen what you have only read about?
What if he isn't wrong? This country has had Civil Wars before.

I pray he isn't right...but I know that he is.
Really? Exactly how many civil wars have you witnessed Fred?

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Could that be because we have seen what you have only read about?
What if he isn't wrong? This country has had Civil Wars before.
I pray he isn't right...but I know that he is.

Oh great and worldly Fred, regal us with all your wisdom accumulated over your many years traveling across America and meeting people from all different socioeconomic backgrounds.

Anthony? What exactly has Anthony seen? He went from being a drain on society to hitting the lottery. He should appreciate that. Instead of trying to spin it into that his hard work paid off and now he shouldn't have to pay taxes to help those less fortunate who didn't stumble onto a radio show one day.

brettmojo
02-04-2009, 04:14 PM
Anthony? What exactly has Anthony seen? He went from being a drain on society to hitting the lottery. He should appreciate that. Instead of trying to spin it into that his hard work paid off and now he shouldn't have to pay taxes to help those less fortunate who didn't stumble onto a radio show one day.
But but... I heard Opie was the lucky one.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 04:56 PM
anthony makes a big deal about how much of the prison population is black, i wonder how much of the prison population are high school drop-outs?

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 05:01 PM
Basically saying that we need to feel sorry for white people who opted to move when non-whites moved to their neighborhood is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 05:04 PM
anthony makes a big deal about how much of the prison population is black, i wonder how much of the prison population are high school drop-outs?

The concept of people trapped in lower economic classes being far more likely to turn to crime would lead to the larger questions of why such a disproportionately large group of a certain social group are so consistently trapped in poverty, which would just lead to even bigger social and historial questons that someone like Anthony would never want to touch.

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 05:10 PM
anthony makes a big deal about how much of the prison population is black, i wonder how much of the prison population are high school drop-outs?

This was from a 2006 article. I think the state prison one is up to about 80 percent now.
I would assume the federal number has gone up too.

"Dropouts comprise 75 percent of U.S. state prison inmates and 59 percent of U.S. federal prison inmates. High school dropouts are 3.5 times more likely to be arrested in their lifetimes than high school graduates."


Between that and all of the civil wars, I'm surprised we even exist as a country anymore.

MisterSmith
02-04-2009, 05:11 PM
anthony makes a big deal about how much of the prison population is black, i wonder how much of the prison population are high school drop-outs?

Pretty damn substantial. According to this article (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5283/is_200505/ai_n24300038/pg_1) (and others), Dropouts comprise 75 percent of U.S. state prison inmates and 59 percent of U.S. federal prison inmates. High school dropouts are 3.5 times more likely to be arrested in their lifetimes than high school graduates.

***:lol: I think there is an echo in here...

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 05:12 PM
This was from a 2006 article. I think the state prison one is up to about 80 percent now.
I would assume the federal number has gone up too.

"Dropouts comprise 75 percent of U.S. state prison inmates and 59 percent of U.S. federal prison inmates. High school dropouts are 3.5 times more likely to be arrested in their lifetimes than high school graduates."


Between that and all of the civil wars, I'm surprised we even exist as a country anymore.

so basically, high school drop-outs are waaaaaaaaaaay worse than black people. Can we start calling High School Drop-outs "niggers"? cuz i totally see Anthony as a nigger

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Haha MisterSmith.

Great minds google alike.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 05:20 PM
You forget to mention that a vast majority of the prison guards are also high-school dropouts.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:20 PM
Then again, I may just give him too much credit...he may truly believe everything he says, and he's just a maniac.


If me and my wife were to split up I'm sure I would CHANGE as would most of us. As a shacked up guy with Melinda he was a different guy.
I personally like the Ant of today..and so do my boys 15 and 19.

To waive the flag of "He's not one of us anymore" and not change the channel is atrocious.
To harbor this hate/dislike for someone that is half the reason any of you probably know each other in the first place is also atrocious.
If ya had a friend for years, that you trusted and enjoyed and he changed somewhat or spoke his views differently you would dump him or her?
I hate hypocrites....

MisterSmith
02-04-2009, 05:24 PM
so basically, high school drop-outs are waaaaaaaaaaay worse than black people. Can we start calling High School Drop-outs "niggers"? cuz i totally see Anthony as a nigger

According to the data from this article (http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/indicators/1HighSchoolDropout.cfm) (see Table 1 (http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/tables/1_Table_1.htm)), African Americans only make up about 17% of dropouts while Hispanics and White Non-Hispanics each kick in about 40% of the dropout population.


Haha MisterSmith.

Great minds google alike.

:lol: I was thinking the same thing.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:26 PM
The concept of people trapped in lower economic classes being far more likely to turn to crime would lead to the larger questions of why such a disproportionately large group of a certain social group are so consistently trapped in poverty, which would just lead to even bigger social and historial questons that someone like Anthony would never want to touch.

Only having the legally same opportunities for 40 years and still not the same actual opportunities, it is not very difficult to understand why many are trapped.

When you are surrounded by poverty and despair, where do you think you will end up?

I work in housing projects almost daily, and I am amazed that any child can ever make it out of that environment and be expected to fit into the rest of society.

There are differences between the races. But, that difference does not completely account for the disparity in jobs, wealth, and social status.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 05:28 PM
If me and my wife were to split up I'm sure I would CHANGE as would most of us. As a shacked up guy with Melinda he was a different guy.
I personally like the Ant of today..and so do my boys 15 and 19.

To waive the flag of "He's not one of us anymore" and not change the channel is atrocious.
To harbor this hate/dislike for someone that is half the reason any of you probably know each other in the first place.
If ya had a friend for years, that you trusted and enjoyed and he changed somewhat or spoke his views differently you would dump him or her?
I hate hypocrites....

Fred, number one, every single man in the entire history of humanity at one point or another in a little or big way makes himself a hypocrite so I don't think that really matters. I think the kind of people you hate are actually 'backstabbers' and 'fair weather friends' more than hypocrites. And yes, they suck. Hate 'em too.

Number two, Anthony is not my friend, never was. So the whole friend loyalty thing you mention has no relevance to me. I'm just another motherfucking fan with an opinion and he's 1/3 (don't forget Mr.Norton!!!!) of the driving force for the O&A show. There's no way he and I would be friends just because of that. If I'm not his friend, I can't betray him.

Number three, if your friend broke up with a hot girl then went to you and whined and bitched and moaned every day nonstop for over a year, you would smack him upside the head and tell him to get a hold of himself. Be a man, so on. You wouldn't hate your friend, but if he makes you feel like shit whenever you hang out because he's in ANOTHER "mood", you're probably not gonna wanna be around him so much.

Capiche? Salom.

-CCC

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:30 PM
so basically, high school drop-outs are waaaaaaaaaaay worse than black people. Can we start calling High School Drop-outs "niggers"? cuz i totally see Anthony as a nigger

You are a fuckin' pompous asshole, you know nothing shit. What have you done? Bought a house? Start a family? Start a business?
"I've studied maaaaaan"
What is your fuckin' hang up with High School Drop outs? Are you in some way better?
Are YOUR views from an educated point of view? You ignorant sheltered prick.

If you were going to West Point you would say "Those civilian educated assholes"

If you were going to cosmetology school you would say "They don't even know how to perm"

epo
02-04-2009, 05:32 PM
To waive the flag of "He's not one of us anymore" and not change the channel is atrocious.
To harbor this hate/dislike for someone that is half the reason any of you probably know each other in the first place is also atrocious.
If ya had a friend for years, that you trusted and enjoyed and he changed somewhat or spoke his views differently you would dump him or her?
I hate hypocrites....

Sometimes friends grow apart. That's what it sounds like to me.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 05:32 PM
You are a fuckin' pompous asshole, you know nothing shit. What have you done? Bought a house? Start a family? Start a business?
"I've studied maaaaaan"
What is your fuckin' hang up with High School Drop outs? Are you in some way better?
Are YOUR views from an educated point of view? You ignorant sheltered prick.

If you were going to West Point you would say "Those civilian educated assholes"

If you were going to cosmetology school you would say "They don't even know how to perm"

easy, you're 3.5times more likely to go to prison than me. I'm just dealing in reality. I read it in the media, its real

jauble
02-04-2009, 05:33 PM
I like the idea of GAZ giving people perms.

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 05:34 PM
Personally, I am sick of my tax dollars paying for all of the dropouts filling our prisons.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Fred, number one, every single man in the entire history of humanity at one point or another in a little or big way makes himself a hypocrite so I don't think that really matters. I think the kind of people you hate are actually 'backstabbers' and 'fair weather friends' more than hypocrites. And yes, they suck. Hate 'em too.

Number two, Anthony is not my friend, never was. So the whole friend loyalty thing you mention has no relevance to me. I'm just another motherfucking fan with an opinion and he's 1/3 (don't forget Mr.Norton!!!!) of the driving force for the O&A show. There's no way he and I would be friends just because of that. If I'm not his friend, I can't betray him.

Number three, if your friend broke up with a hot girl then went to you and whined and bitched and moaned every day nonstop for over a year, you would smack him upside the head and tell him to get a hold of himself. Be a man, so on. You wouldn't hate your friend, but if he makes you feel like shit whenever you hang out because he's in ANOTHER "mood", you're probably not gonna wanna be around him so much.

Capiche? Salom.

-CCC


To sum up that over explained jibberish... I say move along. If it doesnt make YOU happy...why listen? I disliked Janine Garafolo...but I never posted how she sucked, nor did I tune in to get pissed off so I can type about it later.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:35 PM
If me and my wife were to split up I'm sure I would CHANGE as would most of us. As a shacked up guy with Melinda he was a different guy.
I personally like the Ant of today..and so do my boys 15 and 19.

To waive the flag of "He's not one of us anymore" and not change the channel is atrocious.
To harbor this hate/dislike for someone that is half the reason any of you probably know each other in the first place is also atrocious.
If ya had a friend for years, that you trusted and enjoyed and he changed somewhat or spoke his views differently you would dump him or her?
I hate hypocrites....

Word of the day "atrocious." So, Jimmy and Opie are not worth listening to? I guess they aren't your "friends", since you could so easily leave them.
I don't remember Ant being my, or anyone else's FRIEND, on the message board. He is an entertainer. I pay him to entertain me. There are various ways I can voice my displeasure at him. I could stop paying, I could change the channel, I could boycott. I choose to vent on a message board.
If you agree with his idiotic racist and gun nut rants, good for you. I don't. What value would your positive statements have, if I was not able to voice my negative ones?

Dell
02-04-2009, 05:36 PM
I find fence-sitters to be poor entertainers. I don't think Ant is as extreme as he plays on air, he is trying to give us good radio. There are plenty shows out there without a person playing a part like Ant... I find most of them to be boring but it may be your cup of tea.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:37 PM
easy, you're 3.5times more likely to go to prison than me. I'm just dealing in reality. I read it in the media, its real


I heard Ted Bundy was great around colleges during his post graduate years...

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Word of the day "atrocious." So, Jimmy and Opie are not worth listening to? I guess they aren't your "friends", since you could so easily leave them.
I don't remember Ant being my, or anyone else's FRIEND, on the message board. He is an entertainer. I pay him to entertain me. There are various ways I can voice my displeasure at him. I could stop paying, I could change the channel, I could boycott. I choose to vent on a message board.
If you agree with his idiotic racist and gun nut rants, good for you. I don't. What value would your positive statements have, if I was not able to voice my negative ones?


I bet you also voted for CHANGE...just a guess.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Personally, I am sick of my tax dollars paying for all of the dropouts filling our prisons.

we elected a black man as president...but there is no way a high school drop out is ever going to be elected president.

ugh, can you imagine, driving to work and having all the drop-outs yelling at you as you drive by "A Drop-Out is president naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahw"

jauble
02-04-2009, 05:39 PM
To sum up that over explained jibberish... I say move along. If it doesnt make YOU happy...why listen? I disliked Janine Garafolo...but I never posted how she sucked, nor did I tune in to get pissed off so I can type about it later.

Maybe its time for a Janine Garafolo is mentally unstable thread. What did you expect this thread to be about Fred?

paulisded
02-04-2009, 05:40 PM
I heard Ted Bundy was great around colleges during his post graduate years...

I prefer Al (scored 4 touchdowns in a high school game) Bundy.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:40 PM
If you agree with his idiotic racist and gun nut rants, good for you. I don't. What value would your positive statements have, if I was not able to voice my negative ones?


Then by your standards your opinion is shared by 2/3's of the show...now what?

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 05:42 PM
There are differences between the races. But, that difference does not completely account for the disparity in jobs, wealth, and social status.

Obviously. But the whole "everyone has the same chances and opportunities" line is just such BS.

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 05:43 PM
Anthony's "logic" only makes sense if you think somthing like this...

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/OLUGBujl2-0&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/OLUGBujl2-0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

...is perfectly normal.

(I only posted that because I figure that's like porn for Anthony...going really fast, shooting down a plane AND killing a brown person!)

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:45 PM
You are a fuckin' pompous asshole, you know nothing shit. What have you done? Bought a house? Start a family? Start a business?
"I've studied maaaaaan"
What is your fuckin' hang up with High School Drop outs? Are you in some way better?
Are YOUR views from an educated point of view? You ignorant sheltered prick.
If you were going to West Point you would say "Those civilian educated assholes"
If you were going to cosmetology school you would say "They don't even know how to perm"

Yes, learning is overrated. However, I am not sure how buying a home, starting a family, or starting a business educates someone on the difficulty of being poor and black in America.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:46 PM
Maybe its time for a Janine Garafolo is mentally unstable thread. What did you expect this thread to be about Fred?

It is exactly what I expected.

I pile on thread, where most of the people wont disagree because they might seem...DIFFERENT.
Well I am different in opinion and proud to state it.

The hate that is harbored within this thread shows exactly why Ant is armed and wants people to know it.

Hannity, Limbaugh, Stern, Imus...and I bet Ed Lover are all armed.

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 05:48 PM
The hate that is harbored within this thread shows exactly why Ant is armed and wants people to know it.

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA AAH!!!!

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:50 PM
I bet you also voted for CHANGE...just a guess.

No, I voted to continue the recession for eternity.
Just a guess, but you think you live in a free market society.
Should have stayed in school.

When was the country better? Under Clinton or Bush?
Clinton- no deficit, no war, growing economy
Bush- growing deficit, 2 wars, recession

Gvac
02-04-2009, 05:51 PM
It is exactly what I expected.

I pile on thread, where most of the people wont disagree because they might seem...DIFFERENT.
Well I am different in opinion and proud to state it.

The hate that is harbored within this thread shows exactly why Ant is armed and wants people to know it.

Hannity, Limbaugh, Stern, Imus...and I bet Ed Lover are all armed.

If you go back and read the original post, I started this thread when Anthony called into the Ron and Fez messageboard sit-down show over a year ago. He sounded deranged. I couldn't believe a guy who was a successful radio show host and a brilliant comedic mind would get so upset over what fan sites say about the show, or that he would call into a SUNDAY Ron and Fez show and have a meltdown about it.

It made no sense to me then, nor does it now. I can't imagine Ron calling into O&A one day and going berzerk because he read something negative about himself on Wackbag or whatever site.

Since then, this thread has grown because Ant's been more and more vocal about certain things.

It's not a hater thread, and I don't think anyone here wishes Anthony any harm.

Like I said before, I just think a lot of us are incredibly disappointed in him and the way he's transformed into everything he used to rail against.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 05:52 PM
any of you google experts can figure out how many of these disgusting High School Drop-Outs are on welfare living off MY money!

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:52 PM
It is exactly what I expected.

I pile on thread, where most of the people wont disagree because they might seem...DIFFERENT.
Well I am different in opinion and proud to state it.

The hate that is harbored within this thread shows exactly why Ant is armed and wants people to know it.

Hannity, Limbaugh, Stern, Imus...and I bet Ed Lover are all armed.

And I think they are all asses. So, should our conclusion be that unnecessary gun ownership= bad radio host?

jauble
02-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Well I am different

DIFFERENT!

DIFFERENT!

DIFFERENT!

DIFFERENT!

celery
02-04-2009, 05:53 PM
easy, you're 3.5times more likely to go to prison than me. I'm just dealing in reality. I read it in the media, its real

GAZ, can you call the show tomorrow and present your argument?

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:55 PM
Yes, learning is overrated. However, I am not sure how buying a home, starting a family, or starting a business educates someone on the difficulty of being poor and black in America.

FAMILY is key. Three boys of different fathers cannot be raised by Grand Ma.

Buying a home- You invest in your community and are involved.

Starting or Owning a business makes you in charge of yourself and be responsible for others. If it fails its because of you... and if you succeed you reap the rewards.

I was raised in an institution, with no family help.. Poor and White in America if I may

My entire motivation for all I have achieved is taking care of my family the best I can,
something the black male population should consider as well

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:56 PM
any of you google experts can figure out how many of these disgusting High School Drop-Outs are on welfare living off MY money!

You are correct that there are groups more worthy of Fred's contempt than blacks. The problem is we don't require HS dropouts to wear ID badges. So, being lazy, we all are to an extent, we pick on the group that is easiest to identify.

I also think Fred sees himself in Ant. The HS dropout made good against such adversity. Eh. Don't try to make it a great triumph, you either got lucky or got help. The End.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 05:58 PM
FAMILY is key. Three boys of different fathers cannot be raised by Grand Ma.
Buying a home- You invest in your community and are involved.
Starting or Owning a business makes you in charge of yourself and be responsible for others. If it fails its because of you... and if you succeed you reap the rewards.
I was raised in an institution, with no family help.. Poor and White in America if I may
My entire motivation for all I have achieved is taking care of my family the best I can,
something the black male population should consider as well

What paid for that institution?
I did not say starting a family or a business, and buying a home are bad. I said they do not inform you about the struggles that a young black person goes through growing up.
Do you think you had no help?

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Like I said before, I just think a lot of us are incredibly disappointed in him and the way he's transformed into everything he used to rail against.

Give me examples please?

Gvac
02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Give me examples please?

Back in the day he would absolutely SHRED Howard Stern for being a shut in who lived in his basement, which led his wife to divorce him.

Now Anthony admits he'd rather stay home with his guns and his Paltalk than go out. He's living the exact same life as the guy he used to ridicule.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
To sum up that over explained jibberish... I say move along. If it doesnt make YOU happy...why listen? I disliked Janine Garafolo...but I never posted how she sucked, nor did I tune in to get pissed off so I can type about it later.

Well Fred, if you read, you would know that I don't listen. Sorry for treating you like a human being. I personally could give two fucks what you've accomplished without a degree. Being stupid isn't an accomplishment.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
What paid for that institution?
I did not say starting a family or a business, and buying a home are bad. I said they do not inform you about the struggles that a young black person goes through growing up.
Do you think you had no help?

Oh my friend I had plenty, but I also knew when to leave the nest....

Some just keep laying egg after egg.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
You are correct that there are groups more worthy of Fred's contempt than blacks. The problem is we don't require HS dropouts to wear ID badges. So, being lazy, we all are to an extent, we pick on the group that is easiest to identify.

I also think Fred sees himself in Ant. The HS dropout made good against such adversity. Eh. Don't try to make it a great triumph, you either got lucky or got help. The End.

i'm sure there are "one of the good ones". Some of my best friends are high school drop outs. All I'm saying is that they just don't fit in with regular people. i see high school drop outs on the news, i see them in movies and im just like "i can not be in sync with that life". We are just too different

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 06:00 PM
The problem is we don't require HS dropouts to wear ID badges.

That's a great idea.

Although, you can usually identify them pretty easily by their velcro shoes.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:01 PM
Well Fred, if you read, you would know that I don't listen. Sorry for treating you like a human being. I personally could give two fucks what you've accomplished without a degree. Being stupid isn't an accomplishment.


Stupid? Look at your fuckin' name that represents you, you educated buffoon

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 06:07 PM
Stupid? Look at your fuckin' name that represents you, you educated buffoon

why don't you move along? stop being a hypocrite. you prolly smoked so much shit you can't remember what you just said. i don't blame you.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 06:07 PM
Oh my friend I had plenty, but I also new when to leave the nest....

Some just keep laying egg after egg.

You claim to be a good father. But, why does that matter, your kids are white, they will turn out fine without any family or help. That is your point isn't it? You don't understand why black children can't turn into fine Americans without support, when white kids can.

It is a classic example of faulty Republican logic. "The family is so important", but "pull yourself up by your bootstraps."
Pick one or the other. Either family matters and we need to help those who don't have a good support system, or the family unit doesn't matter.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:09 PM
I also think Fred sees himself in Ant. The HS dropout made good against such adversity. Eh. Don't try to make it a great triumph, you either got lucky or got help. The End.

Lucky yes...as any gamble like Life requires. I made proper investments at proper times.

You think College will guarantee you something, and you won't need luck or help?

You are an elitist with no accomplishments... you are the best. I now admire you not Ant...you won. Where can I tune in to hear you?

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 06:10 PM
i'm sure there are "one of the good ones". Some of my best friends are high school drop outs. All I'm saying is that they just don't fit in with regular people. i see high school drop outs on the news, i see them in movies and im just like "i can not be in sync with that life". We are just too different

You kinda sounded like Anthony there.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:11 PM
You claim to be a good father. But, why does that matter, your kids are white, they will turn out fine without any family or help. That is your point isn't it? You don't understand why black children can't turn into fine Americans without support, when white kids can.

It is a classic example of faulty Republican logic. "The family is so important", but "pull yourself up by your bootstraps."
Pick one or the other. Either family matters and we need to help those who don't have a good support system, or the family unit doesn't matter.

I bet you voted for CHANGE too...you dolt.

MisterSmith
02-04-2009, 06:11 PM
FAMILY is key. Three boys of different fathers cannot be raised by Grand Ma.

Buying a home- You invest in your community and are involved.

Starting or Owning a business makes you in charge of yourself and be responsible for others. If it fails its because of you... and if you succeed you reap the rewards.

I was raised in an institution, with no family help.. Poor and White in America if I may

My entire motivation for all I have achieved is taking care of my family the best I can,
something the black male population should consider as well

That is an asinine generalization, like saying all High School Dropouts are abysmal failures or you can never have a stable family if you didn't grow up in one.

You insist on telling us that you are a successful family man, but you are either lying or the generalizations about dropouts and children of broken homes aren't always true.

Broad generalizations about poor African Americans are not always true either.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:12 PM
why don't you move along? stop being a hypocrite. you prolly smoked so much shit you can't remember what you just said. i don't blame you.

When your educated rhetoric doesn't work...make personal attack. I'm done with you.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 06:13 PM
You kinda sounded like Anthony there.

that was the bit

jauble
02-04-2009, 06:13 PM
...sigh

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 06:14 PM
Lucky yes...as any gamble like Life requires. I made proper investments at proper times.
You think College will guarantee you something, and you won't need luck or help?
You are an elitist with no accomplishments... you are the best. I now admire you not Ant...you won. Where can I tune in to hear you?

I don't need my degrees to guarantee my job. I have had a nice union job for 15 years.

I don't want you to admire me. I don't care. I just want you to try to sympathize with people less fortunate. If you don't understand the problem, how can you expect to come up with a solution?

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:16 PM
Back in the day he would absolutely SHRED Howard Stern for being a shut in who lived in his basement, which led his wife to divorce him.

Now Anthony admits he'd rather stay home with his guns and his Paltalk than go out. He's living the exact same life as the guy he used to ridicule.


Wow, not the greatest of example.
He has to wake up early on week days and has a lot to do in his Mansion that does not require going out.

But none of that is on the radio. Got any more?

jauble
02-04-2009, 06:20 PM
Wow, not the greatest of example.
He has to wake up early on week days and has a lot to do in his Mansion that does not require going out.

But none of that is on the radio. Got any more?

He answered your question perfectly. I'm bored too, but now you are just arguing to argue. Also he talks about that on the radio.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:20 PM
If you don't understand the problem, how can you expect to come up with a solution?

That isn't MY job, my job is to provide for my family the best I can.

While listening to radio shows that entertain me.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 06:23 PM
That isn't MY job, my job is to provide for my family the best I can.
While listening to radio shows that entertain me.

You are right. HS dropouts should not be allowed to vote.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:23 PM
He answered your question perfectly. I'm bored too, but now you are just arguing to argue. Also he talks about that on the radio.

He did not. He gave one example of lifestyle...not regarding his radio performance.

Well now he has a house to hang in...he CHANGED. He likes to hang in his mansion, go to bed and wake up for work.
I get it completely.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:24 PM
You are right. HS dropouts should not be allowed to vote.

So my opinions make me stupid in your eyes?

Well back at you poopy pants!!!

Now I have to solve other peoples problems too...oy guvault!

jauble
02-04-2009, 06:24 PM
He did not. He gave one example of lifestyle...not regarding his radio performance.

Well now he has a house to hang in...he CHANGED. He likes to hang in his mansion, go to bed and wake up for work.
I get it completely.

Right he changed, that was Gvac's point. Glad we are all on the same page.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 06:25 PM
Fred is the second dumbest Jew in the world.

biozombie
02-04-2009, 06:26 PM
I don't mind HS dropouts being radio hosts or supermarket cashiers, but I will move to the USSR the minute one of them becomes US President.

MisterSmith
02-04-2009, 06:26 PM
He did not. He gave one example of lifestyle...not regarding his radio performance.

Well now he has a house to hang in...he CHANGED. He likes to hang in his mansion, go to bed and wake up for work.
I get it completely.

Here are 2 easy ones:

Anthony railed on Stern for hours about having cosmetic work done, but then has Hair Restoration done as if it wasn't exactly the same thing or for the same reasons.

A famous Anthony quote was "You don't go to CNN for dick jokes; don't come here for the news." Now they talk about news and politics all the time like political pundits.

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 06:27 PM
He did not. He gave one example of lifestyle...not regarding his radio performance.

Well now he has a house to hang in...he CHANGED. He likes to hang in his mansion, go to bed and wake up for work.
I get it completely.

Just to help you, because you are being willfully blind.
Remember when Ant would hang out and do the R&F show. Now he doesn't. He jumps in his car, speeds home and hides under his couch wearing his holster (if nothing else says manic, walking around your house with a holster is fucking INSANE).

I don't want to hear WHY he has changed. That is irrelevant. Just like you don't care why people are trapped in a cycle of poverty.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 06:27 PM
Today, Anthony is to Howard Stern what Peter Griffin is to Homer Simpson. Essentially its the same character..its the same guy. True, they are surrounded by different players, maybe the players on one show are funnier than the other, but the characters are both the same. Whiney, out-of-touch, self important millionaires. And everything they shit on Howard for, Anthony is guilty of it


Howard's hair extension/wig - Ant's hair plugs

Howard's boring self important politics (pro-John Kerry rants in 04) - Anthony's boring self important politics (anti-Obama rants in 09)

Howard's giant mansion in the Hamptons - Anthony's giant mansion in Nassau County

Howard's "Yes" men (Baba Booey, Ronnie the Limo driver, that taxi guy) - Anthony's "yes" men (keith the cop, danny)


Howard can't do a terrestrial radio (Hack who can't adapt) - O&A can't do a show on terrestrial radio (if the lawyers don't let them do anything, then aren't they not adapting?)

I don't think Anthony ever tried to silence another radio show, so they have that going for them. But every personal attack on Howard's personality as "Hollywood Howie", Anthony is now guilty of in 2009 in his own ways.

MisterSmith
02-04-2009, 06:27 PM
I don't mind HS dropouts being radio hosts or supermarket cashiers, but I will move to the USSR the minute one of them becomes US President.

I would do a hell of a lot more than that if I had access to a time machine. :laugh:

Fred from Brooklyn
02-04-2009, 06:28 PM
Fred is the second dumbest Jew in the world.

More personal attacks... Didja run out of educated banter?

jauble
02-04-2009, 06:28 PM
Fred is the second dumbest Jew in the world.

Vos?

Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 06:30 PM
So my opinions make me stupid in your eyes?

Well back at you poopy pants!!!

Now I have to solve other peoples problems too...oy guvault!
Your opinions make you closed minded in my eyes.
Ant is extremely intelligent, that is what makes it more frustrating that he holds onto these child like ideas.

You don't "have to" do anything. But, if you care about the country, don't you care about its problems.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 06:30 PM
More personal attacks... Didja run out of educated banter?

No, I'm just allergic to retards. I can't stop bashing 'em. It's a disease.

celery
02-04-2009, 06:32 PM
I don't think Anthony ever tried to silence another radio show, so they have that going for them. But every personal attack on Howard's personality as "Hollywood Howie", Anthony is now guilty of in 2009 in his own ways.

Ant also admitted to having the hair restoration done, and I'm kinda enjoying the routine they've made out of it.

Gvac
02-04-2009, 06:34 PM
Wow, not the greatest of example.
He has to wake up early on week days and has a lot to do in his Mansion that does not require going out.

But none of that is on the radio. Got any more?

He does talk about it on the radio. In fact, he admits he's pretty much become a shut in and would rather interact with people on Paltalk than in person.

And you don't think Howard had to get up early and had a lot to do in his mansion?

Charlie_Don't_Surf
02-04-2009, 06:34 PM
Hey Fred, maybe they are calling you dumb because you don't seem to understand that the term "high school dropout" is being used as an antithetical substitute to ethnic people, but in the same types of arguments that Ant makes, so as to highlight the ridiculousness of his statements.

jauble
02-04-2009, 06:35 PM
Hey Fred, maybe they are calling you dumb because you don't seem to understand that the term "high school dropout" is being used as an antithetical substitute to ethnic people, but in the same types of arguments that Ant makes, so as to highlight the ridiculousness of his statements.

Dont wake the baby.

MisterSmith
02-04-2009, 06:35 PM
I don't think Anthony ever tried to silence another radio show, so they have that going for them. But every personal attack on Howard's personality as "Hollywood Howie", Anthony is now guilty of in 2009 in his own ways.


Another radio show? No.

Message boards that posted stuff Ant didn't like? Yes.

Different, but not by a whole lot.

biozombie
02-04-2009, 06:36 PM
Hey Fred, maybe they are calling you dumb because you don't seem to understand that the term "high school dropout" is being used as an antithetical substitute to ethnic people, but in the same types of arguments that Ant makes, so as to highlight the ridiculousness of his statements.

That's fucking bullshit and you know it. All of these references to high school dropouts are nothing less than personal attacks against Mafialife Fred.

:smiley sarcasm facey:

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Another radio show? No.

Message boards that posted stuff Ant didn't like? Yes.

Different, but not by a whole lot.

wow, that is good. very very good.

holy shit, he really is Howard

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 06:42 PM
Hey Fred, maybe they are calling you dumb because you don't seem to understand that the term "high school dropout" is being used as an antithetical substitute to ethnic people, but in the same types of arguments that Ant makes, so as to highlight the ridiculousness of his statements.

its kinda like that book that we had to read in high school where the author went undercover as a highschool drop out. it was called "Highschool Dropout Like Me". We all learned a valuable lesson from that one!

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 06:42 PM
Hey Fred, maybe they are calling you dumb because you don't seem to understand that the term "high school dropout" is being used as an antithetical substitute to ethnic people, but in the same types of arguments that Ant makes, so as to highlight the ridiculousness of his statements.

Stop stealing Ruined_Bit's bit.

hydee
02-04-2009, 06:49 PM
The hate that is harbored within this thread shows exactly why Ant is armed and wants people to know it.


This made me LOL. OMG Anthony is armed because he likes to play cowboys and indian's while making forts in his mansion. He is going through a midlife crisis, and is whining like a bitch about it. Honestly it's like Anthony has a terminal case of PMS.

Knowledged_one
02-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Just a quick question:
at what point does listening to a radio show where you find the host mentally unstable and then come to a messageboard everyday to post about said unstable host, make you unstable because you feel the need to follow his each and every word just to post about it?

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 06:51 PM
Just a quick question:
at what point does listening to a radio show where you find the host mentally unstable and then come to a messageboard everyday to post about said unstable host, make you unstable because you feel the need to follow his each and every word just to post about it?

Never.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Just a quick question:
at what point does listening to a radio show where you find the host mentally unstable and then come to a messageboard everyday to post about said unstable host, make you unstable because you feel the need to follow his each and every word just to post about it?

wait, I'm lost... am I stable or not? :wacko:

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 06:57 PM
Honestly it's like Anthony has a terminal case of PMS.

They're all like that.
See, high school dropouts don't have the chance to develop proper coping skills
and tend to lash out in anger when their emotions become overwhelming.

GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 06:59 PM
They're all like that.
See, high school dropouts don't have the chance to develop proper coping skills
and tend to lash out in anger when their emotions become overwhelming.

and their music, such a bad influence on our youth!

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Slumbag
02-04-2009, 07:00 PM
They're all like that.
See, high school dropouts don't have the chance to develop proper coping skills
and tend to lash out in anger when their emotions become overwhelming.

THAT'S FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!:wallbash::wallbash:

KnoxHarrington
02-04-2009, 07:05 PM
This made me LOL. OMG Anthony is armed because he likes to play cowboys and indian's while making forts in his mansion. He is going through a midlife crisis, and is whining like a bitch about it. Honestly it's like Anthony has a terminal case of PMS.

What amuses me about Anthony's fears is that the show has railed against sensationalistic local news reporting for years, but Anthony's pretty much admitted that his fear of home invasion stems from...news reports about home invasions.

K.C.
02-04-2009, 07:07 PM
Another radio show? No.

Message boards that posted stuff Ant didn't like? Yes.

Different, but not by a whole lot.

When's he going to try and bring the hammer down on our lil' thread?

K.C.
02-04-2009, 07:09 PM
What amuses me about Anthony's fears is that the show has railed against sensationalistic local news reporting for years, but Anthony's pretty much admitted that his fear of home invasion stems from...news reports about home invasions.

I made this observation like 80 pages ago.

They went from ripping apart stupid morning zoo bits and news shows to basically absconding with and making their own, the same exact bits they used to rip on.

But that's another whole thing...I don't want to get side tracked.

I want it known that my problem is nothing personal...it's not that I don't think the guy isn't funny...it's that when he tries to talk seriously, he sounds like a batshit insane maniac.

jauble
02-04-2009, 07:13 PM
THAT'S FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!:wallbash::wallbash:

Hate to tear down a wall but he's playing a character see his previous posts.

Charlie_Don't_Surf
02-04-2009, 07:14 PM
When's he going to try and bring the hammer down on our lil' thread?

I've heard in the news that there is a disproportionately high rate of high school drop outs ruining threads such as this one.

Slumbag
02-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Hate to tear down a wall but he's playing a character see his previous posts.

It's cool. I was joking. Playing like I couldn't handle my emotions.


Now it's awkward.

midwestjeff
02-04-2009, 07:18 PM
It's cool. I was joking. Playing like I couldn't handle my emotions.


Now it's awkward.

I got it.

jauble
02-04-2009, 07:20 PM
It's cool. I was joking. Playing like I couldn't handle my emotions.


Now it's awkward.

If you would like I can maybe draw up a diagram to explain it to you people better.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 07:30 PM
If you would like I can maybe draw up a diagram to explain it to you people better.

how about we just shoot this fucking thing in the head and call it a day? it's the humane thing to do.

TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 07:30 PM
If you would like I can maybe draw up a diagram to explain it to you people better.

Keep it simple.

Y'know, for THOSE people.

jauble
02-04-2009, 07:31 PM
how about we just shoot this fucking thing in the head and call it a day? it's the humane thing to do.

I'll ask ant on facebook if I can borrow one of his guns.

Towelie
02-04-2009, 07:46 PM
and when he ceases being honest...I will move along.

This is it! This is the answer. It says here... that a bolt of lightning is going to strike the clock tower at precisely 10:04pm, next Saturday night! If... If we could somehow... harness this lightning... channel it... into the flux capacitor... it just might work. Next Saturday night, we're sending you back to the future!

http://i39.tinypic.com/15n2bo6.jpg

styckx
02-04-2009, 07:54 PM
This is it! This is the answer. It says here... that a bolt of lightning is going to strike the clock tower at precisely 10:04pm, next Saturday night! If... If we could somehow... harness this lightning... channel it... into the flux capacitor... it just might work. Next Saturday night, we're sending you back to the future!

http://i39.tinypic.com/15n2bo6.jpg

Hilarious

CofyCrakCocaine
02-04-2009, 08:04 PM
:thumbdown::banning::bye::thumbup:Hilarious

I dunno. I don't get it. So I don't think it is funny. Towlie=overrated and I hate the direction he's taking this board into. btw im a liberal and anyone whose knot lib can suck a fat nut!!!!! :smoke::help::blink:

Towelie
02-04-2009, 08:11 PM
:thumbdown::banning::bye::thumbup:

I dunno. I don't get it. So I don't think it is funny. Towlie=overrated and I hate the direction he's taking this board into. btw im a liberal and anyone whose knot lib can suck a fat nut!!!!! :smoke::help::blink:

I'm just a puppet of the Mikeyboy regime. He gives the orders and I take the board in that direction.

styckx
02-04-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm just a puppet of the Mikeyboy regime. He gives the orders and I take the board in that direction.

*checking profile*. Yep. You're fucking good. 4 posts in 5 months and are steering an entire messageboard in a direction? Mikeyboy should mod you..

Goatweed
02-04-2009, 08:18 PM
this board has a direction?

conman823
02-04-2009, 10:27 PM
I bet you voted for CHANGE too...you dolt.

This is like personal attack #5 since he's injected himself into this thread.

Just Saying.:smoke:

TjM
02-05-2009, 03:39 AM
I'm a High School drop out too...what are you sayin'? I think he is a complete realist, sure there are exceptions...but the truth may hurt a delusional college boy with limited life experience.
I guess its safe to assume The Zero Family never participated in white flight, or maybe their delusional offspring doesn't know why he comes from where he does.
I wanna see where you are in ten years Pompous College Boy.

I laugh a lot during his rants... to hide the scarey reality that it is the truth.


You tell him Fred


Stupid people gettin there edimacatiums!

TjM
02-05-2009, 03:44 AM
You appear to dislike Ant a bit...why listen at all?

That's the problem Fred some people are turning it off. Seems every time I try to check in with the show it's another racist rant

mikeyboy
02-05-2009, 03:52 AM
Wow. This thread degenerated quickly.

I understand that people feel personally invested in this particular topic, but the personal attacks on each other need to stop on all sides.

Don Stugots
02-05-2009, 04:05 AM
Is the ban hamster awake yet?

TjM
02-05-2009, 04:07 AM
When your educated rhetoric doesn't work...make personal attack. I'm done with you.

Personal attacks? You haven't made on effing point yet Fred. Most of your post have been nothing but personal attacks

Dan 'Hampton
02-05-2009, 04:10 AM
Isn't this thread one big personal attack? Or at least that's what it's turned into.

foodcourtdruide
02-05-2009, 04:29 AM
That isn't MY job, my job is to provide for my family the best I can.

While listening to radio shows that entertain me.

Hi fred. Thanks for presenting the opposing viewpoint in this thread. I really disagree with the above statement regarding responsibility. It is OUR responsibility to try to end the cycle of poverty in this country. We are the fortunate ones who had the help and luck (along with hard work) to escape poverty, we owe it to others to be altruistic, and in the end it will make our country better.

There are many reasons people turn to crime, but to say race is one of them is just as bad and demeaning to people of tjhat race as people saying you're not shit because you dropped out of high school.

I respect you fred and think you're a good guy. I hope this calm explaination made you see some of our sides.

Fred from Brooklyn
02-05-2009, 07:41 AM
Hi fred. Thanks for presenting the opposing viewpoint in this thread. I really disagree with the above statement regarding responsibility. It is OUR responsibility to try to end the cycle of poverty in this country. We are the fortunate ones who had the help and luck (along with hard work) to escape poverty, we owe it to others to be altruistic, and in the end it will make our country better.

There are many reasons people turn to crime, but to say race is one of them is just as bad and demeaning to people of tjhat race as people saying you're not shit because you dropped out of high school.

I respect you fred and think you're a good guy. I hope this calm explaination made you see some of our sides.

I am very generous to the charities I regularly donate to. I understand your sentiment, but poverty is part of any society. The thought of poverty being eradicated is a lovely thought,
but unfortunately unachievable.

MC Pee Pants
02-05-2009, 07:43 AM
Regroup everyone.

Gee, that Anthony Cumia sure is mentally unstable huh? How about that crazy stuff he did today? GO!

foodcourtdruide
02-05-2009, 08:05 AM
I am very generous to the charities I regularly donate to. I understand your sentiment, but poverty is part of any society. The thought of poverty being eradicated is a lovely thought,
but unfortunately unachievable.

While I agree that it may be unattainable I think as a human being continuing the persuit of the eradication of poverty is important. Think aboit it, if everyone was as generous as you, wouldn't it put a serious dent in poverty?

CurseoftheBambi
02-05-2009, 11:47 AM
Let me just say I'm glad that this thread is around because it defintely needs to be. Its not an attack on ant. But it defintely represents a view point of long time fans who have seen the change in ant over the years or that that change has been made more visible with the Obama rants.

I agree with those who said racial jokes are funny but ants rants have been anything but funny because they're coming from a hateful place. Mike Tyson on the Empire State building was freaking hilarious. Had racial overtones but hilarious. Ant having to say Ni**er every other sec when he's on an obama rant is :thumbdown:. I hate what the paltalk live room becomes after ant goes into one of his rants cause for me a black guy (i know i know gasp) is uncomfortable and vomit inducing. Because some of those in there are not making jokes they're like those on the McCain/Palin campain trail who were also HONEST (like those honest people too fred?) about their feelings for not voting for a black guy. Not that the black guy had bad plans no it was simply cause he was black. It pisses me the _____off and i have lately been just walking out...its part of why i took my paltalk vacation as i call it. Because the ignorance was great. And unfornately it started from the head with Ant's rants. He can rant as he wants too..but he has to know he's ignorant on a lot of what he says and believes.

I'm sure this will make sense to those who think my beret I wear at times has zero to do with a black panther statement over fashion. And that my kilt isn't a white person thing because I haven't seen any wear them at O&A events other than myself. So I guess its a personal choice no?

brettmojo
02-05-2009, 11:57 AM
I am very generous to the charities I regularly donate to. I understand your sentiment, but poverty is part of any society. The thought of poverty being eradicated is a lovely thought,
but unfortunately unachievable.
You're no Gene Roddenberry.

kdubya
02-05-2009, 12:00 PM
anthony makes a big deal about how much of the prison population is black, i wonder how much of the prison population are high school drop-outs?

Good point

~Katja~
02-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Yesterday, during a call in of a black listener who had some great and valid points even Ant could not argue, Ant went to throw out his opinion that it should be black people like him (the caller) or the ones that are better off and well educated that should be responsible to clean up "THEIR" communities. That just showed how ignorant his point of view is.
Is he, as white American who is better off, putting ANY effort into cleaning up trailer trash neighborhoods and inner city projects that are overwhelmed with welfare cases and kids in foster care? There are PLENTY of bad white communities and nobody expects white celebrities or intellectuals to clean them up, hell, he will scream and kick when someone wants to tax him higher to solve some of the issues on hand... yet he blatantly yells out that black people need to pick up and fix their own communities...
What Ant just fails to do is to look at every person as an individual and not a part of a race or group.
I mean I am the first to make a racist joke but he truly believes in the shit he publicly broadcasts.

CurseoftheBambi
02-05-2009, 12:12 PM
You're no Gene Roddenberry.

oh my gosh ! I'm a geek i know exactly what you meant by this!:help:

GreatAmericanZero
02-05-2009, 12:21 PM
Let me just say I'm glad that this thread is around because it defintely needs to be. Its not an attack on ant. But it defintely represents a view point of long time fans who have seen the change in ant over the years or that that change has been made more visible with the Obama rants.

I agree with those who said racial jokes are funny but ants rants have been anything but funny because they're coming from a hateful place. Mike Tyson on the Empire State building was freaking hilarious. Had racial overtones but hilarious. Ant having to say Ni**er every other sec when he's on an obama rant is :thumbdown:. I hate what the paltalk live room becomes after ant goes into one of his rants cause for me a black guy (i know i know gasp) is uncomfortable and vomit inducing. Because some of those in there are not making jokes they're like those on the McCain/Palin campain trail who were also HONEST (like those honest people too fred?) about their feelings for not voting for a black guy. Not that the black guy had bad plans no it was simply cause he was black. It pisses me the _____off and i have lately been just walking out...its part of why i took my paltalk vacation as i call it. Because the ignorance was great. And unfornately it started from the head with Ant's rants. He can rant as he wants too..but he has to know he's ignorant on a lot of what he says and believes.

I'm sure this will make sense to those who think my beret I wear at times has zero to do with a black panther statement over fashion. And that my kilt isn't a white person thing because I haven't seen any wear them at O&A events other than myself. So I guess its a personal choice no?

wow..and i know Curse is a huge supporter and genuine fan. if this is his opinion it shows a serious misstep in the direction of the program imho

CurseoftheBambi
02-05-2009, 12:31 PM
wow..and i know Curse is a huge supporter and genuine fan. if this is his opinion it shows a serious misstep in the direction of the program imho

Gaz i held my tounge from speaking or starting a rant because I wanted to make sure (examine myself) that I wasn't coming from a racial insecure place. That my reaction wasn't because he was directing his comments at blacks or the funny was there and I wasn't seeing it. But its harder and harder to ignore that Ant fell off the tracks from funny to racist. And the whole ni**ermania thing just made me ill. I did give ant an uncomftable smile at the live event that "never was" (and it's true about the low crowd numbers...i wonder how much now was it because of who ant's been or the poor promotion anyway..) when he said that the crowd looked like a Mccain Rally...then he saw me and said..."oh not for you of course". And he was visibly disappointed that McCain wasnt drawing in the crowds. Hey If he didn't have an idiot running as his Veep maybe he would have got votes from intelligent people like myself not that I thought Obama wasn't a better choice and not cause we share the same skin tone .:furious:

Charlie_Don't_Surf
02-05-2009, 12:59 PM
Gaz i held my tounge from speaking or starting a rant because I wanted to make sure (examine myself) that I wasn't coming from a racial insecure place. That my reaction wasn't because he was directing his comments at blacks or the funny was there and I wasn't seeing it. But its harder and harder to ignore that Ant fell off the tracks from funny to racist. And the whole ni**ermania thing just made me ill. I did give ant an uncomftable smile at the live event that "never was" (and it's true about the low crowd numbers...i wonder how much now was it because of who ant's been or the poor promotion anyway..) when he said that the crowd looked like a Mccain Rally...then he saw me and said..."oh not for you of course". And he was visibly disappointed that McCain wasnt drawing in the crowds. Hey If he didn't have an idiot running as his Veep maybe he would have got votes from intelligent people like myself not that I thought Obama wasn't a better choice and not cause we share the same skin tone .:furious:


Anthony believes that any black person that voted for Obama did it because he was black. What bothers me about his rants and show his true racism are that he believes he knows what all black people think. I think this is one of the defining traits of a racist, they think that they know all about another race.

But honestly can we say that the signs aren't there? Going of what Ant himself has said I can put two and two together.

-His father was a blatant racist and Ant was obviously trying to earn his love/respect.
-He grew up in long island during the ?60s-70s?. As someone who graduated from a high school(yr & a half ago) that played long island teams I have seen racism in that place and the best part is the little faggots think that they are clever about it.

BTW I am black, born and raised in the caribbean, an OnA, RnF fan since 8th grade, I am what you would describe as ghetto or urban in the way I dress and speak sometimes. I played lacrosse & football, listen to rock(mostly metal not the pussy shit), and I am a student of an ivy league university. I have mixed and mingled with more races, religions, and generally more different socioeconomic groups than Ant in all his years so it is safe to say that I'm pretty FUCCIN OBJECTIVE when it comes to interpersonal relations. I have many black, white, european, jewish, & african friends but I am up for a racist joke at any time as long as it isn't hate or fear driven.

GreatAmericanZero
02-05-2009, 01:11 PM
someone a few pages ago said that it seems after the Imus (and subsequently Homeless Charlie thing) that Ant has been bitter against black people and thats when the racism stopped being fun and getting real. but it is definitley a different tone deal with black people

Like, i have never heard a jewish person (and there are a lot of jewish fans) being offended by Ant's nazi stuff. Cuz thats "fun racism"...its obvious Anthony doesn't hate jews. And the black jokes used to be fun racism, now its just "racism racism" or "boring racism"

hydee
02-05-2009, 01:21 PM
Anthony believes that any black person that voted for Obama did it because he was black. What bothers me about his rants and show his true racism are that he believes he knows what all black people think. I think this is one of the defining traits of a racist, they think that they know all about another race.

But honestly can we say that the signs aren't there? Going of what Ant himself has said I can put two and two together.

-His father was a blatant racist and Ant was obviously trying to earn his love/respect.
-He grew up in long island during the ?60s-70s?. As someone who graduated from a high school(yr & a half ago) that played long island teams I have seen racism in that place and the best part is the little faggots think that they are clever about it.

BTW I am black, born and raised in the caribbean, an OnA, RnF fan since 8th grade, I am what you would describe as ghetto or urban in the way I dress and speak sometimes. I played lacrosse & football, listen to rock(mostly metal not the pussy shit), and I am a student of an ivy league university. I have mixed and mingled with more races, religions, and generally more different socioeconomic groups than Ant in all his years so it is safe to say that I'm pretty FUCCIN OBJECTIVE when it comes to interpersonal relations. I have many black, white, european, jewish, & african friends but I am up for a racist joke at any time as long as it isn't hate or fear driven.

I just can't imagine being a person that doesn't have many people in their lives that are black, white, Asian, Korean, and so forth. I don't know how you get to be Anthony's age, live in New York, and end up not having a open mind and heart when it comes to other people.

Anthony's biggest problem, at least to me is that he doesn't know black people. If he took the time to actually broaded his horizons and meet people that are different it might open his eyes to just what a jerk he has been, and maybe he bury some of those daddy issues that seem to be plaguing him.

GreatAmericanZero
02-05-2009, 01:24 PM
Anthony's biggest problem, at least to me is that he doesn't know black people. If he took the time to actually broaded his horizons and meet people that are different it might open his eyes to just what a jerk he has been, and maybe he bury some of those daddy issues that seem to be plaguing him.

and he says how "black people wouldn't fit in with his friends" but i know 100% percent that a regular blue collar black guy would fit in with Anthony more than some white priviledged ivyleague millionaire high society guy

brettmojo
02-05-2009, 01:28 PM
and he says how "black people wouldn't fit in with his friends" but i know 100% percent that a regular blue collar black guy would fit in with Anthony more than some white priviledged ivyleague millionaire high society guy
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YourAmishDaddy
02-05-2009, 01:38 PM
I think Norton said it the best and it's something I've learned from him. Humor attempted from viciousness isn't funny. It doesn't come across as funny. Which is the way I look at it. Which is why it puzzles me what's happening lately. It's not even really an attempt at humor, but more like social commentary. Like Ant is taking himself in the direction of being a commentator or something.

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02-05-2009, 01:50 PM
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Ironic Ant has gotten so insanely racist, since he's the most nigger rich person in the history of the business.

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Opie knows he's on a sinking ship.

Ironic Ant has gotten so insanely racist, since he's the most nigger rich person in the history of the business.

Wouldn't it be the funniest fuccin thing on the planet if Patrice became Ant's replacement. I can just hear the how the rants would play out, with Ant all frothing at the mouth.

CurseoftheBambi
02-05-2009, 03:00 PM
lol the n word would be covering the live room screen . i swear it would be like an eclipse.

and who's ant kidding...he wouldnt be accepted in bushwood. i remember way back on wnew when he and opie were talking about going to some nyc movie party or something...and ant came in his long hair, sneakers and jeans and said he would never change or dress up for those type of events. ... and when i saw him at the die hard 4 premier walking in the "exclusive" part i thought you soooooooooooo changed LOL. Not that I dont get he had to dress up but i'm sure he doesnt remember he said that back then. ANd Ive been a fan since 1999.

I think ant should have kept his long hair...its when XFL came around he cut his hair and ironic forgot himself.

styckx
02-05-2009, 03:44 PM
Ant is the Joe Buck of radio personalities.

K.C.
02-05-2009, 06:20 PM
Ironic Ant has gotten so insanely racist, since he's the most nigger rich person in the history of the business.

You make such clear and accurate points when you're not talking about baseball.

:devil2:




But back to the point...Ant would be standing in an unemployment line screaming for his check with everyone he professes to hate, if not for his Opie golden ticket way back when.

High school dropout tin-knockers in this economy? Not exactly in high-demand.

AKA
02-06-2009, 12:10 PM
i have never heard a jewish person (and there are a lot of jewish fans) being offended by Ant's nazi stuff. Cuz thats "fun racism"...

I actually know someone (who is Jewish) who never found any of that funny either.

GreatAmericanZero
02-06-2009, 01:17 PM
I actually know someone (who is Jewish) who never found any of that funny either.

maybe not "find it funny" but i dont think any jews would be offended, no?

Ocho Cinco
02-06-2009, 01:24 PM
[QUOTE

Opie knows he's on a sinking ship.

Ironic Ant has gotten so insanely racist, since he's the most nigger rich person in the history of the business.[/QUOTE]

that's the funniest line ever, i may have to steal that. and your name is towelie, i can't belive i didn't think of using that for a name even though you had it already. it hurts me that you are so far ahead of me in life, i need to get funnier and or quicker asap

patrice would be the best co-host if he could tone it down a tad. he always kills me but can be a bit much when he keeps up the act the whole show. but if he toned it down and he def has before i'd listen to that show every day. especially his relationship talk, that is gold

i agree w/ how bad ant's got but for his defense i don't think he's been so bad this week. once he gets off of obama and guns which he just says the same shit over and over again he can still be pretty funny

i'm too new to write this long, seeya

The Ogre
02-06-2009, 05:44 PM
I still think that Colin Quinn would be the best replacement for Anthony. He makes Norton tone down the AIDSLOLOLOL shit, and he works off of Opie well. If they want to go down the wop route again there's Nick Dipaolo. He's Anthony with less mouth breathing.

MC Pee Pants
02-06-2009, 05:47 PM
I still think that Colin Quinn would be the best replacement for Anthony. He makes Norton tone down the AIDSLOLOLOL shit, and he works off of Opie well. If they want to go down the wop route again there's Nick Dipaolo. He's Anthony with less mouth breathing.

Nick Dipaolo is funny as shit. I really liked his solo show on Free FM, hes really quick on his feet. I would literally LOL! while his show was on, but he's an Italian racist from Boston so who knows. Maybe he would tone it down since he would have a serious radio job, but why are we talking replacements?

underdog
02-06-2009, 08:22 PM
Nick Dipaolo is funny as shit. I really liked his solo show on Free FM, hes really quick on his feet. I would literally LOL! while his show was on, but he's an Italian racist from Boston so who knows. Maybe he would tone it down since he would have a serious radio job, but why are we talking replacements?

I used to love Nick, but I get so sick of his "white men have it so tough!" routine he does now.

RAAMONE
02-06-2009, 08:37 PM
I still think that Colin Quinn would be the best replacement for Anthony. He makes Norton tone down the AIDSLOLOLOL shit, and he works off of Opie well. If they want to go down the wop route again there's Nick Dipaolo. He's Anthony with less mouth breathing.

i think colin is great but hes just as insane...in a different way

MC Pee Pants
02-07-2009, 01:53 PM
I used to love Nick, but I get so sick of his "white men have it so tough!" routine he does now.

Yea, I felt that way too. But the way he interacted with callers and how quick he was with these hilarious lines was great...I think he should get a show somewhere. Where I dont know.

NewYorkDragons80
02-07-2009, 02:16 PM
I still think that Colin Quinn would be the best replacement for Anthony. He makes Norton tone down the AIDSLOLOLOL shit, and he works off of Opie well. If they want to go down the wop route again there's Nick Dipaolo. He's Anthony with less mouth breathing.

If you don't like Norton making AIDS jokes, the time to complain is not 2009. He's been doing them since 2001, and today's Norton relies on them a lot less than he used to. I like that he draws the audience into expecting constant filthy jokes, then drops cute sayings like "silly goose" and "voted handsomest boy in town." I just think the complaint that Jimmy makes too many AIDS jokes is kinda stale at this stage of the game.

Gvac
02-07-2009, 02:17 PM
If you don't like Norton making AIDS jokes, the time to complain is not 2009. He's been doing them since 2001, and today's Norton relies on them a lot less than he used to. I like that he draws the audience into expecting constant filthy jokes, then drops cute sayings like "silly goose" and "voted handsomest boy in town." I just think the complaint that Jimmy makes too many AIDS jokes is kinda stale at this stage of the game.

Oh yeah?

I hope you fall in a puddle of AIDS!

Don Stugots
02-07-2009, 02:19 PM
If you don't like Norton making AIDS jokes, the time to complain is not 2009. He's been doing them since 2001, and today's Norton relies on them a lot less than he used to. I like that he draws the audience into expecting constant filthy jokes, then drops cute sayings like "silly goose" and "voted handsomest boy in town." I just think the complaint that Jimmy makes too many AIDS jokes is kinda stale at this stage of the game.

drink a frosty mug of AIDS, you Robert Reed lovin' silly goose.

GreatAmericanZero
02-07-2009, 02:39 PM
If you don't like Norton making AIDS jokes, the time to complain is not 2009. He's been doing them since 2001, and today's Norton relies on them a lot less than he used to. I like that he draws the audience into expecting constant filthy jokes, then drops cute sayings like "silly goose" and "voted handsomest boy in town." I just think the complaint that Jimmy makes too many AIDS jokes is kinda stale at this stage of the game.

i agree. i have norton's "yellow displine" cd and a lot of it has punchlines like "..then i raped her!" or "fall in a bucket of aids!"

if you watch his "monster rain" special or here a lot of his characters like Ted and Christian Jimmy/jive talking jimmy..u can really see that Jimmy has grown as a comic and a radio personality. he has embraced silliness and genuine funnyness instead of just being a shock comic. Norton has grown..without a doubt

The Ogre
02-07-2009, 02:51 PM
If you don't like Norton making AIDS jokes, the time to complain is not 2009. He's been doing them since 2001, and today's Norton relies on them a lot less than he used to. I like that he draws the audience into expecting constant filthy jokes, then drops cute sayings like "silly goose" and "voted handsomest boy in town." I just think the complaint that Jimmy makes too many AIDS jokes is kinda stale at this stage of the game.


You're right it's 2009. Change that to PREPTHEBULLCUCKOLDLOLOLOL.

CofyCrakCocaine
02-07-2009, 02:52 PM
i agree. i have norton's "yellow displine" cd and a lot of it has punchlines like "..then i raped her!" or "fall in a bucket of aids!"

if you watch his "monster rain" special or here a lot of his characters like Ted and Christian Jimmy/jive talking jimmy..u can really see that Jimmy has grown as a comic and a radio personality. he has embraced silliness and genuine funnyness instead of just being a shock comic. Norton has grown..without a doubt

Norton's descriptions of sexual organs and his analogies for the body are still the peak of his art and goddamn it they're funny. I enjoy his general disgust of everyone and himself. And underneath that veneer of nastiness, there's a thoughtful lil' boy who just wants to express himself and make the audience laugh.

The Ogre
02-07-2009, 02:54 PM
i agree. i have norton's "yellow displine" cd and a lot of it has punchlines like "..then i raped her!" or "fall in a bucket of aids!"

if you watch his "monster rain" special or here a lot of his characters like Ted and Christian Jimmy/jive talking jimmy..u can really see that Jimmy has grown as a comic and a radio personality. he has embraced silliness and genuine funnyness instead of just being a shock comic. Norton has grown..without a doubt


I love the Ted bits. I also love Jive Talking Jimmy, and when he gets goofy or silly. I don't like the fact that most times his humor consists of finding the worst thing to say about a kid in a wheelchair. That shit was never shocking to me and it reeks of the same kind of immature desperation that you'd get in high school from the kid who ate disgusting shit for attention. He still does way too much of the "shock" humor for me, but like I was saying, he tones it down a lot when certain people are in, because he knows he'll get a "shut up stupid."

GreatAmericanZero
02-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Norton's descriptions of sexual organs and his analogies for the body are still the peak of his art and goddamn it they're funny. I enjoy his general disgust of everyone and himself. And underneath that veneer of nastiness, there's a thoughtful lil' boy who just wants to express himself and make the audience laugh.

and Norton is genuine too. I always root for him to get his celebrity picture and when he is ranting and hating on something i never think its from a phony place. even when i disagree with him, i know that Norton is coming from an honest place (unlike Anthony..who recently i feel is coming from a right wing/anti-obama vote-my way place)