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KingGeno
10-19-2008, 03:00 PM
Wait for it..........

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booster11373
10-21-2008, 12:48 PM
It should read "She really doesn't have a clue" but not bad for some who can't read, I suck

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Furtherman
10-21-2008, 12:51 PM
Wow.

KatPw
10-21-2008, 12:54 PM
Ugh.

booster11373
10-21-2008, 12:58 PM
Does downsizing "Big Government" mean getting rid of one of the branches?

HBox
10-21-2008, 01:07 PM
Now we know a 3rd grader can stump her. Now we need to see if a 2nd grader can stump her.

keverlast
10-21-2008, 01:13 PM
That "Bushed Chick" Sarah, offered full time employment with SNL, she should take the offer. If she becomes VP next month, then that will really convince me the USA people are _______________, hahahahaha

angrymissy
10-21-2008, 01:15 PM
It should read "She really doesn't have a clue" but not bad for some who can't read, I suck

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What the FUCK is she wearing?

A zip up red pleather jacket?????

hammersavage
10-21-2008, 04:14 PM
It's from the Eddie Murphy 'Raw' collection.

http://static.sky.com/images/skymovies/pics/10098208.jpg

KingGeno
10-21-2008, 04:23 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/12359985/caratulas_MICHAEL_JACKSON-THRILLER_.jpg

HBox
10-21-2008, 04:33 PM
The Republican National Committee has spent $150,000 on clothes and makeup for Sarah Palin and her family. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html)

The Republican National Committee appears to have spent more than $150,000 to clothe and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family since her surprise pick by John McCain in late August.

According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.

The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September.

The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.


Politico asked the McCain campaign for comment, explicitly noting the $150,000 in expenses for department store shopping and makeup consultation that were incurred immediately after Palin’s announcement. Pre-September reports do not include similar costs.

Spokeswoman Maria Comella declined to answer specific questions about the expenditures, including whether it was necessary to spend that much and whether it amounted to one early investment in Palin or if shopping for the vice presidential nominee was ongoing.

brettmojo
10-21-2008, 04:41 PM
The Republican National Committee has spent $150,000 on clothes and makeup for Sarah Palin and her family. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html)
Of course. Her closet at home in WASSSILLLLAAAA is filled with nothing except hunter's orange and denim.

scottinnj
10-21-2008, 04:48 PM
The Republican National Committee has spent $150,000 on clothes and makeup for Sarah Palin and her family. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html)

Of course. Her closet at home in WASSSILLLLAAAA is filled with nothing except hunter's orange and denim.

Nancy Reagan didn't spend that much....


Oh well, at least she take take the wardrobe home as a consolation prize after McCain loses in two weeks..

angrymissy
10-21-2008, 05:26 PM
The Republican National Committee has spent $150,000 on clothes and makeup for Sarah Palin and her family. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html)

On THAT SHIT?

I'll do it up for $75,000, she'll look tons better.

mikeyboy
10-21-2008, 05:31 PM
Pssh. Marc could do it for $50K.

K.C.
10-21-2008, 06:19 PM
Gets very good when they actually talk to the current mayor of Wasilla

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IMSlacker
10-21-2008, 06:24 PM
On THAT SHIT?

I'll do it up for $75,000, she'll look tons better.

We know.

http://images.urbanoutfitters.com/is/image/UrbanOutfitters/15421373_60_b?$detailmain$

angrymissy
10-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Pssh. Marc could do it for $50K.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DnmjEFNC0Cw/SPzCeKrU72I/AAAAAAAAG4o/jpHFttk6iVE/s400/all+the+stops.jpg

angrymissy
10-21-2008, 06:30 PM
We know.

http://images.urbanoutfitters.com/is/image/UrbanOutfitters/15421373_60_b?$detailmain$

and it's FLANNEL, that's all GENUINE and ALASKAEY

angrymissy
10-21-2008, 06:52 PM
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-front-yard-confederate-flag-folksiness-sarah.jpg

epo
10-21-2008, 06:52 PM
So apparently the good governor may have some tax troubles, because...well you'll see:

AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel (http://www.newsweek.com/id/165012)

Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.

In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.

So I'm being harsh....or not.

When Palin released her family's tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children's state travel reimbursements as income.

But....

Taylor Griffin, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman, said Palin followed state policy allowing governors to charge for their children's travel. He said the governor's office has invitations requesting the family to attend some events, but he said he did not have them to provide.

But they might have family values! (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palins-taxes.html)

The IRS also strictly forbids deductions for expenses incurred bringing a spouse and kids along on a business trip. Tax authorities say any reimbursement for travel costs for family members would likely incur income taxes.

Either way, she's either a tax cheat or a non-maverick who found a loophole to drag her brood all over the state of Alaska. She can cut this "fiscal conservative" act right now, but it's realistically bullshit.

scottinnj
10-21-2008, 06:57 PM
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-front-yard-confederate-flag-folksiness-sarah.jpg

I can always count on the grammar. Look how our heroes spelled "Maverick"

I guess "spell it like it sounds" doesn't apply when you say "mavrik" instead of "maverick"


Edit: Well, lookey there! I missed how they spelled Socialist. These are high school graduates, I tell ya!

angrymissy
10-21-2008, 07:07 PM
Nice confederate flag too.

Ritalin
10-21-2008, 07:41 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DnmjEFNC0Cw/SPzCeKrU72I/AAAAAAAAG4o/jpHFttk6iVE/s400/all+the+stops.jpg

Well, they spent 50 grand accessorizing her with that white baby.

epo
10-22-2008, 05:15 AM
Governor Palin was rocking a new look yesterday while signing autographs at a rally:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7592/originalhw8.jpg

Those little animals on the scarf? Donkeys. And the word "vote".

If I was a republican funding this twit's wardrobe...I'd be thoroughly pissed at that moment. If you were a democrat like me, you'll find a nice chuckle in the morning.

EliSnow
10-22-2008, 05:19 AM
Governor Palin was rocking a new look yesterday while signing autographs at a rally:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7592/originalhw8.jpg

Those little animals on the scarf? Donkeys. And the word "vote".

If I was a republican funding this twit's wardrobe...I'd be thoroughly pissed at that moment. If you were a democrat like me, you'll find a nice chuckle in the morning.

That can't be a Democrat Party scarf. The colors on it are red, white and blue, and EVERYONE knows that Democrats are anti-American, and their colors are pink, red or whatever the colors of socialism are.

celery
10-22-2008, 06:40 AM
C'mon guys, lay off her. She's regular down-to-earth folk, just like us.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

brettmojo
10-22-2008, 10:15 AM
Governor Palin was rocking a new look yesterday while signing autographs at a rally:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7592/originalhw8.jpg

Those little animals on the scarf? Donkeys. And the word "vote".

If I was a republican funding this twit's wardrobe...I'd be thoroughly pissed at that moment. If you were a democrat like me, you'll find a nice chuckle in the morning.
She thought it was a caribou.

KatPw
10-22-2008, 10:20 AM
Governor Palin was rocking a new look yesterday while signing autographs at a rally:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7592/originalhw8.jpg

Those little animals on the scarf? Donkeys. And the word "vote".

If I was a republican funding this twit's wardrobe...I'd be thoroughly pissed at that moment. If you were a democrat like me, you'll find a nice chuckle in the morning.

She probably thinks that those are moose on the scarf.

Recyclerz
10-22-2008, 10:43 AM
Well, they spent 50 grand accessorizing her with that white baby.

I think they may have gotten the price knocked down a little on THAT white baby.

Just sayin'.

Zorro
10-22-2008, 11:10 AM
That can't be a Democrat Party scarf. The colors on it are red, white and blue, and EVERYONE knows that Democrats are anti-American, and their colors are pink, red or whatever the colors of socialism are.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/codepinkfatlady.jpg

angrymissy
10-22-2008, 01:17 PM
That's a 7 year old child with her very own Louis Vuitton bag. About $1k, probably more.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/460/slide_460_11037_large.jpg

TheMojoPin
10-22-2008, 01:33 PM
That's a 7 year old child with her very own Louis Vuitton bag. About $1k, probably more.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/460/slide_460_11037_large.jpg

Small town values, y'all! That's how they roll in the Real America!

ECCCCCHHHHHHHH.

scottinnj
10-22-2008, 02:20 PM
Well, they spent 50 grand accessorizing her with that white baby.

It costs 50 grand to add a chromosone?





















What? Too far?

NickyL0885
10-22-2008, 03:17 PM
can anyone find the youtube clip of Hardball today where Matthews rips apart a McCain Advisor over the Palin debacle when she said the VP controls the senate and makes policy changes. wow. the woman kept changing the subject. she didnt have an answer for why Palin said what she said.

HBox
10-22-2008, 03:39 PM
can anyone find the youtube clip of Hardball today where Matthews rips apart a McCain Advisor over the Palin debacle when she said the VP controls the senate and makes policy changes. wow. the woman kept changing the subject. she didnt have an answer for why Palin said what she said.

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This is the same bitch who started in with the Real/Fake Virginia nonsense.

HBox
10-22-2008, 03:48 PM
My favorite parts of that where 1. Bill Burton with a shit eating grin through that whole thing and 2. Matthews "thank you for coming on I know how hard it is to defend this woman" line.

TooCute
10-22-2008, 07:57 PM
Maybe?
I find it ahrd to believe but it looks like a bad knockoff from what I can make out - on a real LV bag, they never have any seams or anything going through the "LV" logos in the printed pattern....

That's a 7 year old child with her very own Louis Vuitton bag. About $1k, probably more.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/460/slide_460_11037_large.jpg

Tenbatsuzen
10-22-2008, 08:13 PM
Maybe?
I find it ahrd to believe but it looks like a bad knockoff from what I can make out - on a real LV bag, they never have any seams or anything going through the "LV" logos in the printed pattern....

If it is a knock-off, that might be a bigger problem then actually buying that. Counterfeit and knock-off goods are the new ultra-taboo stuff. Bloomberg has been running massive busts in chinatown over it.

hammersavage
10-22-2008, 08:15 PM
I hope you chicks dissect that bag like the Zapruder film .

tele7
10-22-2008, 08:22 PM
I hope you chicks dissect that bag like the Zapruder film .

She is looking back and to the left though.

booster11373
10-23-2008, 03:05 AM
That's a 7 year old child with her very own Louis Vuitton bag. About $1k, probably more.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/460/slide_460_11037_large.jpg

It could just be a young girl carrying her moms bag

GreatAmericanZero
10-23-2008, 04:11 AM
can any of you ladies explain why anyone would pay thousands of dollars for a purse?


i think in the differences between men and women, men don't have anything on our side as weird as what you have on your side

Kublakhan61
10-23-2008, 04:29 AM
can any of you ladies explain why anyone would pay thousands of dollars for a purse?


i think in the differences between men and women, men don't have anything on our side as weird as what you have on your side

Same reason a man would buy a watch for thousands of dollars ... your social circle will recognize you as fashionable and as having expendable income.

angrymissy
10-23-2008, 05:19 AM
can any of you ladies explain why anyone would pay thousands of dollars for a purse?


i think in the differences between men and women, men don't have anything on our side as weird as what you have on your side

I personally won't, but there are people who have LV's that have had them for years. They're very well made. Max I'll drop on a purse is $300. might seem like a lot to a guy, but it's something you use every day.

A.J.
10-23-2008, 05:28 AM
can any of you ladies explain why anyone would pay thousands of dollars for a purse?

And shoes. Not necessarily for a single pair but for MANY pairs.

I have 4 pairs of shoes in my rotation. That's it.

Thomas Merton
10-23-2008, 02:14 PM
Four? Thats crazy talk

I have three sneakers alone in my rotation: hoops, walking around and mowing the lawn

All jewelry, accessories, cars, homes are symbols of wealth and supposed superiority

I'm teaching Canterbury Tales right now and love Chaucer's Mr. Blackwell like descriptions of the pilgrim's dress and hypocrisy

keithy_19
10-23-2008, 03:52 PM
Same reason a man would buy a watch for thousands of dollars ... your social circle will recognize you as fashionable and as having expendable income.

Real men tell time by the sky.

Jujubees2
10-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Real men tell time by the sky.

Or they ask another guy who is wearing a $1,000 watch.

KnoxHarrington
10-23-2008, 05:24 PM
There are so many good reasons why Sarah Palin should not be Vice President that this rather insignficant, dopey one shouldn't matter. But I think this will hurt her more than just about anything else has.

yojimbo7248
10-23-2008, 05:48 PM
There are so many good reasons why Sarah Palin should not be Vice President that this rather insignficant, dopey one shouldn't matter. But I think this will hurt her more than just about anything else has.

I think you're right. This $150,000 shopping trip has helped people realize that no matter how much she drops her 'g's or says 'nukuler', she and her husband are not the Walmart shopping working class family like they pretend to be.
We have just had a fake folksy president for eight years. Hopefully we as a nation can see beyond that bullshit. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice...won't get fooled again.

AKA
10-24-2008, 07:48 AM
I think you're right. This $150,000 shopping trip has helped people realize that no matter how much she drops her 'g's or says 'nukuler', she and her husband are not the Walmart shopping working class family like they pretend to be.
We have just had a fake folksy president for eight years. Hopefully we as a nation can see beyond that bullshit. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice...won't get fooled again.

I agree - I've seen this first hand as being "the final straw" for some loyal Republicans I know who just can't pretend anymore that she was anything other than a hideous choice. One of them specifically named the shopping trip.

JerseySean
10-24-2008, 07:50 AM
I think you're right. This $150,000 shopping trip has helped people realize that no matter how much she drops her 'g's or says 'nukuler', she and her husband are not the Walmart shopping working class family like they pretend to be.
We have just had a fake folksy president for eight years. Hopefully we as a nation can see beyond that bullshit. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice...won't get fooled again.

I see this as the fact that they are Walmart shoppers and the woman needed a wardrobe to run for VP because she didnt have one. You guys are off the rails on this.

yojimbo7248
10-24-2008, 07:57 AM
I see this as the fact that they are Walmart shoppers and the woman needed a wardrobe to run for VP because she didnt have one. You guys are off the rails on this.

There is no escaping that the Palins are wealthy people. I don't have the exact amount of their combined incomes and assets with me at the moment but I am pretty sure they are far out of the working class range. I have no problem with them being rich, it's the phoniness that gets me. They pretend to worry about making ends meet and needing to go to Walmart because that is all they can afford. That's absolute bullshit.

epo
10-24-2008, 07:58 AM
I see this as the fact that they are Walmart shoppers and the woman needed a wardrobe to run for VP because she didnt have one. You guys are off the rails on this.

Off the rails? These are just normal people talking about things they've heard. There is nothing off the rails about that.

Seriously, there is nothing left to spin for the McCain/Palin ticket.

Recyclerz
10-24-2008, 08:26 AM
There is no escaping that the Palins are wealthy people. I don't have the exact amount of their combined incomes and assets with me at the moment but I am pretty sure they are far out of the working class range. I have no problem with them being rich, it's the phoniness that gets me. They pretend to worry about making ends meet and needing to go to Walmart because that is all they can afford. That's absolute bullshit.

This may surprise some of you (it certainly surprises me) but I pretty much agree with Jersey Sean on this point. I think the Palins are real working/middle class types albeit with high ambitions and a willingness to serve the interests of the monied class to get up the ladder. I think the willingness to take the shopping trips, the per diems and free travel for the family as Governor, the "help" building their nice house from the contractors who got the deal to build that sports complex when she was mayor, etc. shows the "happy to escape white trashdom" inclinations of the family & especially Sarah. I think this is different, and somewhat less objectionable, than the fake "hayseed" manners of W, et al.

Of course this doesn't mean that she should be any higher than 297,453,815th on anybody's list to be Vice President of the United States of America.

yojimbo7248
10-24-2008, 08:29 AM
This may surprise some of you (it certainly surprises me) but I pretty much agree with Jersey Sean on this point. I think the Palins are real working/middle class types albeit with high ambitions and a willingness to serve the interests of the monied class to get up the ladder. I think the willingness to take the shopping trips, the per diems and free travel for the family as Governor, the "help" building their nice house from the contractors who got the deal to build that sports complex when she was mayor, etc. shows the "happy to escape white trashdom" inclinations of the family & especially Sarah. I think this is different, and somewhat less objectionable, than the fake "hayseed" manners of W, et al.

Of course this doesn't mean that she should be any higher than 297,453,815th on anybody's list to be Vice President of the United States of America.

I do agree that her folksy stylings are more authentic than W's.

angrymissy
10-24-2008, 09:44 AM
I see this as the fact that they are Walmart shoppers and the woman needed a wardrobe to run for VP because she didnt have one. You guys are off the rails on this.

Those glasses she has been sporting for years are $450 frames. That's not exactly Walmart. My frames are freaking Gucci and they were $300.

brettmojo
10-24-2008, 02:22 PM
This may surprise some of you (it certainly surprises me) but I pretty much agree with Jersey Sean on this point. I think the Palins are real working/middle class types albeit with high ambitions and a willingness to serve the interests of the monied class to get up the ladder. I think the willingness to take the shopping trips, the per diems and free travel for the family as Governor, the "help" building their nice house from the contractors who got the deal to build that sports complex when she was mayor, etc. shows the "happy to escape white trashdom" inclinations of the family & especially Sarah. I think this is different, and somewhat less objectionable, than the fake "hayseed" manners of W, et al.
Ewww.

HBox
10-24-2008, 03:45 PM
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HBox
10-24-2008, 03:54 PM
Question: Who is the highest paid employee in the McCain campaign.

Answer here. Get read for a doozy. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-drops-328.html)

IMSlacker
10-24-2008, 06:14 PM
Just in time for the hollidays! (http://www.sarahcalendar.com/)

http://www.sarahcalendar.com/images/calendar_cover_8mo0.jpg

http://www.sarahcalendar.com/images/sarah_december_y2ji.jpg

King Imp
10-25-2008, 03:06 PM
Coming soon on FOX: "When Maverick's Go Rogue!" (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html)

I get a kick out of watching this campaign implode. :laugh:

booster11373
10-25-2008, 03:47 PM
Coming soon on FOX: "When Maverick's Go Rogue!" (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html)

I get a kick out of watching this campaign implode. :laugh:

So if true the next question is why? to set her self up as the christian conservative candidate? or something else?

brettmojo
10-25-2008, 03:50 PM
Coming soon on FOX: "When Maverick's Go Rogue!" (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html)

I get a kick out of watching this campaign implode. :laugh:
She's freakin' looney tunes.

booster11373
10-25-2008, 03:54 PM
Fox Maverick, the greatest name ever

epo
10-25-2008, 04:19 PM
So if true the next question is why? to set her self up as the christian conservative candidate? or something else?

I would say there would be two theories and I'll use quotes from the article:

1. Somehow the Governor thinks that she can save the election because she hasn't been handled properly.

A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

This would line up with the Bill Kristols of the world who have asked that the McCain campaign "let Sarah be Sarah".

2. She is completely worried about her own political brand. When she was selected she was seen by many as a "rising star" in the party. Now with some national exposure she has a chance to re-define herself in the next two weeks:

A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

I would say that Governor Palin has a bigger problem that her obvious misguided thoughts about 2012. She needs to be very concerned about 2010 as she is up for re-election in Alaska.

It has been very obvious this year that Democrats have finally figured out how to raise money and don't think for a second that Dems wouldn't love to run a strong candidate in Alaska & knock out Governor Palin.

Recyclerz
10-25-2008, 07:41 PM
I would say that Governor Palin has a bigger problem that her obvious misguided thoughts about 2012. She needs to be very concerned about 2010 as she is up for re-election in Alaska.

It has been very obvious this year that Democrats have finally figured out how to raise money and don't think for a second that Dems wouldn't love to run a strong candidate in Alaska & knock out Governor Palin.


Yeah, like the woman who actually WON that beauty pageant. :wink:

GreatAmericanZero
10-25-2008, 07:45 PM
eh..its alaska. who gives a shit?

JerseySean
10-25-2008, 08:08 PM
There is no escaping that the Palins are wealthy people. I don't have the exact amount of their combined incomes and assets with me at the moment but I am pretty sure they are far out of the working class range. I have no problem with them being rich, it's the phoniness that gets me. They pretend to worry about making ends meet and needing to go to Walmart because that is all they can afford. That's absolute bullshit.

She makes 125k as Governor, he makes 92k. Before she was Governor, she made 60k to his 90k. If that is rich nowadays then I would think there would be more rich people on this planet.

epo
10-25-2008, 09:48 PM
Hey look, it's another Palin ethical problem!

AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081026/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline)

Gov. Sarah Palin's signature accomplishment — a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 — emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows.



Do I laugh or yawn?

Recyclerz
10-25-2008, 10:01 PM
Hey look, it's another Palin ethical problem!

AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081026/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline)



Do I laugh or yawn?



Forget it, Jake. It's Alaska.

Drew85
10-26-2008, 07:07 AM
She makes 125k as Governor, he makes 92k. Before she was Governor, she made 60k to his 90k. If that is rich nowadays then I would think there would be more rich people on this planet.

If she's making 125k she can easily afford nordstroms.

angrymissy
10-26-2008, 08:11 AM
Palin says Ayers is a terrorist, but won't call Eric Rudolph, the Olympic and Abortion clinic bomber, a terrorist. Just because he hit an abortion clinic and she's anti abortion, it's ok? That is fucking disgusting, I'm sorry. He killed 2 and injured over a hundred.

JerseySean
10-26-2008, 08:26 AM
Palin says Ayers is a terrorist, but won't call Eric Rudolph, the Olympic and Abortion clinic bomber, a terrorist. Just because he hit an abortion clinic and she's anti abortion, it's ok? That is fucking disgusting, I'm sorry. He killed 2 and injured over a hundred.

For once, I agree. That was a failure on her part by not standing up there.

Recyclerz
10-26-2008, 09:24 AM
Anchorage Daily News endorses Obama

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567867.html

Closes out by saying although she has considerable political skills, Sarah Palin is not close to being ready to be President.

brettmojo
10-26-2008, 09:28 AM
Anchorage Daily News endorses Obama

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567867.html

Closes out by saying although she has considerable political skills, Sarah Palin is not close to being ready to be President.
Holy shit the comments are hilarious!

Fez4PrezN2008
10-26-2008, 09:30 AM
If she's making 125k she can easily afford noreaster-storms.
fixed it

scottinnj
10-26-2008, 01:25 PM
Palin says Ayers is a terrorist, but won't call Eric Rudolph, the Olympic and Abortion clinic bomber, a terrorist. Just because he hit an abortion clinic and she's anti abortion, it's ok? That is fucking disgusting, I'm sorry. He killed 2 and injured over a hundred.

I will. Rudolph is a terrorist. 'nuff said.

epo
10-26-2008, 07:03 PM
Today the NY Times ran a piece on John McCain entitled "The Making (and Remaking) of John McCain (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/magazine/26mccain-t.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=magazine&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)". Its an interested article that might be worth your time. But more pertinent to this thread there is a story in the piece about a McCain adviser talking about Palin at the RNC Convention:

The following night, after McCain’s speech brought the convention to a close, one of the campaign’s senior advisers stayed up late at the Hilton bar savoring the triumphant narrative arc. I asked him a rather basic question: “Leaving aside her actual experience, do you know how informed Governor Palin is about the issues of the day?”

The senior adviser thought for a moment. Then he looked up from his beer. “No,” he said quietly. “I don’t know.”

Simply put...she was not vetted properly. This is the one of the greatest indictments one could make upon Senator McCain's judgment.

epo
10-26-2008, 07:55 PM
And I feared that Senator Biden would veer too much off message:

According to CNN: (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/26/palin-and-hasselbeck-blast-ridiculous-wardrobe-story/#more-26552)

Ensuring that news of the Republican National Committee's sartorial spending spree will remain in the headlines for at least one more news cycle, Sarah Palin on Sunday sounded off on the $150,000 wardrobe that was purchased for her in September, denouncing the report as "ridiculous" and declaring emphatically: "Those clothes, they are not my property."

A senior adviser to John McCain told CNN's Dana Bash that the comments about her wardrobe "were not the remarks we sent to her plane this morning." Palin did not discuss the wardrobe story at her rally in Kissimmee later in the day.

That's right folks...Governor Palin is veering off the ranch.

celery
10-26-2008, 08:24 PM
At least Biden can tell us what a VP does:

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Dirtybird12
10-27-2008, 08:21 AM
long-brewing tensions between Palin and key aides to McCain are on the rise. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html)


A McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," this McCain adviser said. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

epo
10-29-2008, 04:52 PM
If I'm Senator McCain my head about to explode over the shit Governor Palin is doing. Check out this YouTube clip:

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She has obviously gone rogue and is only thinking of herself. I haven't seen anything this weird in my lifetime.

JerseySean
10-29-2008, 04:55 PM
If I'm Senator McCain my head about to explode over the shit Governor Palin is doing. Check out this YouTube clip:

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She has obviously gone rogue and is only thinking of herself. I haven't seen anything this weird in my lifetime.

It is more an indictment on her being such a novice. Clearly that is a political misstep but I dont think she was intentionally trying to damage McCain but she is definately a novice and that is a gaffe.

SatCam
10-30-2008, 08:52 AM
I think we can all agree she was being blunt

AKA
10-30-2008, 12:10 PM
I think we can all agree she was being blunt

http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/THC/Images/blunt6.jpg

God bless her.

Ritalin
10-30-2008, 12:34 PM
I think we can all agree she was being blunt

She don't front.

celery
10-30-2008, 12:43 PM
I think we can all agree she was being blunt

She don't front.

But she does like to hunt.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2qltq2u.jpg

EliSnow
10-30-2008, 12:52 PM
I think we can all agree she was being blunt

She don't front.

But she does like to hunt.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2qltq2u.jpg

On difficult debate questions, she likes to punt.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/files/newsimages/100308palin.jpg

celery
10-30-2008, 12:54 PM
I think we all know where this is going...

EliSnow
10-30-2008, 12:58 PM
I think we all know where this is going...

Yes, on Tuesday, she's not likely to be triumphant.

NickyL0885
10-30-2008, 01:38 PM
I think tuesday, after Obama wins, she will speak at a rally with McCain and reveal she voted for Obama. Then, her husband Todd will come out of no where and hit McCain from behind with a steel chair. Then, Palin will put McCains head on a chair as she takes a chair of her own and gives McCain the Kon-Chair Doe. Then she walks off saying "Palin in 2012!"

Ritalin
10-30-2008, 03:10 PM
I think we can all agree she was being blunt

She don't front.

But she does like to hunt.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2qltq2u.jpg

On difficult debate questions, she likes to punt.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/files/newsimages/100308palin.jpg

I think we all know where this is going...

I have a friend who has Palin's "oh ya hey dere" accent, and she's always saying this:

She's a real See You Next Tuesday!

hammersavage
10-30-2008, 06:29 PM
God I hate this cunt.

(that's 3 mikey.)

KnoxHarrington
10-30-2008, 06:40 PM
Another day, another attack on Palin, this time from a "top advisor" for a Presidential campaign who called her a "whack-job." Obama really should apologize and fire that staffer...

What? A McCain staffer said that? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081030/pl_politico/15073;_ylt=AoDC7zRLPkHti4xB99npe5Gs0NUE)

In recent days, a McCain “adviser” told Dana Bash of CNN: “She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone.”

Imagine not taking advice from the geniuses at the McCain campaign. What could Palin be thinking?

Also, a “top McCain adviser” told Mike Allen of Politico that Palin is “a whack job.”

Maybe she is. But who chose to put this “whack job” on the ticket? Wasn’t it John McCain? And wasn’t it his first presidential-level decision?

And if you are a 72-year-old presidential candidate, wouldn’t you expect that your running mate’s fitness for high office would come under a little extra scrutiny? And, therefore, wouldn’t you make your selection with care? (To say nothing about caring about the future of the nation?)

McCain didn’t seem to care that much. McCain admitted recently on national TV that he “didn’t know her well at all” before he chose Palin.

If a Presidential campaign is a good sign of how someone would be as President, the McCain campaign should give us all quite a bit of pause. The fact that McCain would go for someone he didn't really know as a desperate political gamble should speak volumes as to his temperment to lead.

brettmojo
10-30-2008, 06:45 PM
I think tuesday, after Obama wins, she will speak at a rally with McCain and reveal she voted for Obama. Then, her husband Todd will come out of no where and hit McCain from behind with a steel chair. Then, Palin will put McCains head on a chair as she takes a chair of her own and gives McCain the Kon-Chair Doe. Then she walks off saying "Palin in 2012!"

SURVEY TIME!!!

NOW... ARE ALL OF YOU HERE TO SEE... JOHN MCCAIN???

*BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

OR... OR ARE YOU HERE TO SEE THE [ALL IN UNISON] N! W! O!

SURVEY SAYS... ONE MORE FOR THE GOOD GUYS!

thejives
10-30-2008, 08:18 PM
She's the VP candidate chosen on Candid Camera by Alan Funt.

Furtherman
10-31-2008, 06:36 AM
God I hate this cunt.

(that's 3 mikey.)

Hahahahahaha!

TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 11:41 AM
Part of me will miss the gems she comes up with. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/31/palin-criticism-threatens_n_139729.html?ouch)

Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like those with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not be considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said.

"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told host Chris Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."

Amazing.

EliSnow
10-31-2008, 11:45 AM
Part of me will miss the gems she comes up with. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/31/palin-criticism-threatens_n_139729.html?ouch)



Amazing.

Another person who doesn't realize the First Amendment only applies to government action, not the media.

Plus, she (and the McCain side) complains about the negative attacks by Obama? You can't have it both ways.

BTW, I just read in today's paper that yesterday she was in Erie, Pa (Pittsburgh Pirates country) and noted how thrilled she was to be in the home state of the world champion Phildelphia Phillies.

Now, I have to admit, I was unaware that Eria was Pirates country, but I would have wanted to check with some locals before the speech to ensure it was Phillies country.

TheMojoPin
10-31-2008, 11:47 AM
I just love that seems to think the 1st ammendment exists to protect the government from the media.

IMSlacker
10-31-2008, 11:48 AM
I'm not sure that even Pittsburgh is Pirates country anymore.

EliSnow
10-31-2008, 11:53 AM
I just love that seems to think the 1st ammendment exists to protect the government from the media.

That little fact hit me after I first posted.

Damn head cold slowing me down.

landarch
10-31-2008, 03:52 PM
Here's a funny one

www.sarahpalinaspresident.us

epo
11-01-2008, 01:25 PM
So a Quebec radio station claimed to be French President Nicolas Sarkozy and actually got through to Governor Palin. Here is the mess:

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thejives
11-01-2008, 01:34 PM
That's unbelievable, epo.

At the beginning of the call, when she thought it was the REAL Sarkozy, she says "John McCain and I just looove you!"

What is he? Your favorite host on the View? That's real fucking professional way to talk to a foreign leader.

dino_electropolis
11-02-2008, 09:06 AM
So the "potential" VP got pranked by 2 dj's in Canada, who posed as French Presidet Sarkozy. Ok, a prank call to a politician is to be expected, but not after 7 minutes of ridiculous jokes by the dj's......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27489929/

"He also tells the Alaska governor that he loved the "documentary" made about her and referred to a pornographic film with a Palin look-alike made by Hustler founder Larry Flynt.

She answers tentatively, "Ohh, good, thank you, yes."

what a moron.

brettmojo
11-02-2008, 09:15 AM
This is just the first wave... Canada is coming.

dino_electropolis
11-02-2008, 09:25 AM
This is just the first wave... Canada is coming.

not if we put our best men on the job!

http://www.dreamagic.com/roger/canadianBacon.gif

Liverspot
11-02-2008, 05:29 PM
I tried to find a link to the Biden fake call, was there one?

I thought Biden was the "potential" next VP.

I'm confused....

NewYorkDragons80
11-02-2008, 05:32 PM
eh, it wasn't that bad. I listened to the first 4 mins on the BBC's website.

patsopinion
11-02-2008, 09:51 PM
new version of hardcore diplomacy
link to nalin paylin on xnxx.com (http://video.xnxx.com/video64851/Lisa_Ann_-_Who%27s_Nailin%27_Paylin_Hustler)


one liners?
thoughts on how similar she looks to er?
russians?

Recyclerz
11-03-2008, 11:39 AM
To bring this thread full circle, Gov. Palin has not released any medical records and election day is tomorrow.

9 hours left (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/palin-campaign-stonewalls-on-medical-records/)

Hmmmmm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdvQ7LnPNQ)

EDIT: (Not that it would make her a bad person ;-) )

AKA
11-03-2008, 12:29 PM
Maybe I'm missin' something, but any reason why this thread is suddenly in the "Entertainment" section? is the Sarah Palin thread goin' all rouge on us too???

mikeyboy
11-03-2008, 12:31 PM
Maybe I'm missin' something, but any reason why this thread is suddenly in the "Entertainment" section? is the Sarah Palin thread goin' all rouge on us too???

The whole Palin debacle does have a kind of train wreck entertainment to it. Moving it back now...

Furtherman
11-03-2008, 12:33 PM
Mais le français croit que c'est si bizarre!

AKA
11-03-2008, 04:09 PM
The whole Palin debacle does have a kind of train wreck entertainment to it. Moving it back now...

http://clatterymachinery.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/dalai-lama-pointing.jpg

Recyclerz
11-03-2008, 10:19 PM
To bring this thread full circle, Gov. Palin has not released any medical records and election day is tomorrow.

9 hours left (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/palin-campaign-stonewalls-on-medical-records/)

Hmmmmm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdvQ7LnPNQ)

EDIT: (Not that it would make her a bad person ;-) )

Well, she just beat the deadline, so she kept her word on that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20081103/palin-health/

K.C.
11-04-2008, 07:26 AM
Wow.

Palin FINALLY did a inpromptu press conference after voting today.

...and...to...my...surprise....

She was actually pretty impressive.

Makes me wonder if McCain should have let her do a few.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 07:50 AM
Wow.

Palin FINALLY did a inpromptu press conference after voting today.

...and...to...my...surprise....

She was actually pretty impressive.

Makes me wonder if McCain should have let her do a few.

Did we just wach the same press conference?

I lost track of how many times she stopped making sentences and was just tossing out random words.

EliSnow
11-04-2008, 07:57 AM
Wow.

Palin FINALLY did a inpromptu press conference after voting today.

...and...to...my...surprise....

She was actually pretty impressive.

Makes me wonder if McCain should have let her do a few.

After reading this thread, my head immediately thought of the WWF "press conferences" from the 80's and 90's.

mikeyboy
11-04-2008, 07:58 AM
Did we just wach the same press conference?

I lost track of how many times she stopped making sentences and was just tossing out random words.

Was one of them "maverick"?

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 08:01 AM
Was one of them "maverick"?

Today it was "alliance."

K.C.
11-04-2008, 08:18 AM
Did we just wach the same press conference?

I lost track of how many times she stopped making sentences and was just tossing out random words.


There's a difference between making sense, and good politics.

Bush never made sense...nobody will ever say Bush wasn't a good politician.

Palin made 'politician sense'

If she'd have had more of those along the campaign trail, she would have been more appealing to people.

EliSnow
11-04-2008, 08:22 AM
Bush never made sense...nobody will ever say Bush wasn't a good politician.


I will. I think he had some good politicians as advisors, but I don't think he himself was a good politician.

Furtherman
11-04-2008, 08:29 AM
Bush never made sense...nobody will ever say Bush wasn't a good politician.

President Bush?

I can say that Bush HAS made sense in the past. He just never followed up on it. So I would definitely say Bush wasn't a good politician. In fact, I'd say he was terrible.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 08:34 AM
I will. I think he had some good politicians as advisors, but I don't think he himself was a good politician.

I think you're crazy.

He was the worst President in modern history, who presided over a terrorist attack, a failed war, and a tanking economy and he got elected TWICE!!!

He defeated a future Nobel Prize Winner because more people 'wanted to have a beer with him' and a Vietnam War Hero despite going AWOL from the National Guard.

The guy was a ridiculously good politician.

Horrible, horrible, nearly apocalyptic President...but great politician.

celery
11-04-2008, 08:53 AM
I think you're crazy.

He was the worst President in modern history, who presided over a terrorist attack, a failed war, and a tanking economy and he got elected TWICE!!!

He defeated a future Nobel Prize Winner because more people 'wanted to have a beer with him' and a Vietnam War Hero despite going AWOL from the National Guard.

The guy was a ridiculously good politician.

Horrible, horrible, nearly apocalyptic President...but great politician.

Isn't part of being a good politician (especially President) keeping a decent approval rating?

http://i34.tinypic.com/2ludwqv.gif

EliSnow
11-04-2008, 08:58 AM
I think you're crazy.

He was the worst President in modern history, who presided over a terrorist attack, a failed war, and a tanking economy and he got elected TWICE!!!

He defeated a future Nobel Prize Winner because more people 'wanted to have a beer with him' and a Vietnam War Hero despite going AWOL from the National Guard.

The guy was a ridiculously good politician.

Horrible, horrible, nearly apocalyptic President...but great politician.

One, he had an incredible political strategist, Karl Rove, that should be credited with those wins.

Second, at least with the second win, he won because of terrorism fears and because of faults people had with Kerry.

Third, a good politician isn't just someone who gets a elected a good politician is someone who once in office is able to accomplish his goals, and succeed. Other than getting us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, he didn't do that.

Jujubees2
11-04-2008, 08:59 AM
I think you're crazy.

He was the worst President in modern history, who presided over a terrorist attack, a failed war, and a tanking economy and he got elected TWICE!!!

He defeated a future Nobel Prize Winner because more people 'wanted to have a beer with him' and a Vietnam War Hero despite going AWOL from the National Guard.

The guy was a ridiculously good politician.

Horrible, horrible, nearly apocalyptic President...but great politician.

Nah, Karl Rove was a great politicain who punched Bush's buttons.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 08:59 AM
Isn't part of being a good politician (especially President) keeping a decent approval rating?


There's governing political power, and there's electoral political power.

So in that respect, you maybe right, because Bush had the most political capital of any President ever after 9/11 and ended up at a record low.

But in terms of election campaigning, the guy was on par with Clinton, if not a little better (Clinton always had Perot as a buffer to siphon Republican votes...it's very possible Clinton would have lost in '92 in a one on one election with Bush 41).

So that's more what I'm talking about.

A saw a glimpse of that from Palin today.

That said, if I had to make a prediction on Palin, you will never hear her name uttered again after tonight.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 09:00 AM
One, he had an incredible political strategist, Karl Rove, that should be credited with those wins.

Second, at least with the second win, he won because of terrorism fears and because of faults people had with Kerry.

Third, a good politician isn't just someone who gets a elected a good politician is someone who once in office is able to accomplish his goals, and succeed. Other than getting us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, he didn't do that.

Rove drew up the map.

But you have to have the candidate to win the votes. McCain's effectively used the same Rove map and he's about to get blown out.

Terrorism fears are a (unfortunate) part of campaigns. Knowing which buttons to push is the mark of being a good politician.

jonyrotn
11-04-2008, 09:05 AM
I will. I think he had some good politicians as advisors, but I don't think he himself was a good politician. A politician almost by definition is someone who can get you to believe his or her bullshit wether it be true or not..This clown got enough people to believe his bullshit to be voted in on two different occations..
Weapons of mass destruction my ass!!
Only a sociopath or a gifted politition can sell you that load of horse shit and still look you in the eye and smile..

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 09:48 AM
A saw a glimpse of that from Palin today.

I will fully admit that I am biased by my complete loathing of her, but what did you see? Between saying things were "really cool" and "exercising her right to privacy" and her glib, clueless and almost nonsensical reports to, I assume, the Japanese reporters just epitomized so many things I can't stad about her.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 10:02 AM
I will fully admit that I am biased by my complete loathing of her, but what did you see? Between saying things were "really cool" and "exercising her right to privacy" and her glib, clueless and almost nonsensical reports to, I assume, the Japanese reporters just epitomized so many things I can't stad about her.

Usually, her speeches come off as very rigid and she struggles with the delivery because she's not very good at reading from paper.

That combined with the Alaskan cadence, and the stupid talking points that the McCain campaign has given her during this campaign (i.e. Obama is a Phillies fan in PA and a Rays fan in FL) has made her look atrocious.

I thought that today she was much, much more personable, the delivery was more natural, she was engaging in her answers (granted, they weren't tough questions and most were just reflective on the campaign...and the Japan thing you pointed out...that may drive me and you insane because she said absolutely NOTHING, but we're not who she's courting), and just her overall demeanor is something that'll appeal to the rubes.

It was very Bush-like...especially when she started reflecting with her American-isms.


Again, I despise this woman. She's all that's wrong with politics for someone like me.

But that doesn't mean that I she doesn't have some political talent. And I can kind of see that. Cosmetically, at least for today, she had the looks of a pretty good politician.

She's still far from ready, because she can't talk policy at all. But she definitely has the mannerisms of a good politician.

The smart move for her would be to run for the Stevens/Begich Alaskan Senate seat that is up for re-election this year, in 2014. By 2016 or 2020, she may be refined enough to run for President by then.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 10:12 AM
The smart move for her would be to run for the Stevens/Begich Alaskan Senate seat that is up for re-election this year, in 2014. By 2016 or 2020, she may be refined enough to run for President by then.

I can only hope the world has exploded or we've at least fallen into a post-apocalyptic wasteland at that point if there's even a chance of that happening.

If it's "elitist" of me, fine, whatever, but I do not understand how people can buy into the lowest common denominator crap. That interview, to me, sounded like they stopped a woman at the polls on her way to bringing the orange slices to her kid's soccer match. I see so many smart and flat out brilliant people who call themselves Republicans, yet there's been this disturbing trend over the last 30 years or so try and "dumb down" the voices and faces of the party as much as possible. Why? Why the aversion to "intellectuals?" What happened to wanting the "best and the brightest?"

K.C.
11-04-2008, 11:11 AM
If it's "elitist" of me, fine, whatever, but I do not understand how people can buy into the lowest common denominator crap. That interview, to me, sounded like they stopped a woman at the polls on her way to bringing the orange slices to her kid's soccer match. I see so many smart and flat out brilliant people who call themselves Republicans, yet there's been this disturbing trend over the last 30 years or so try and "dumb down" the voices and faces of the party as much as possible. Why? Why the aversion to "intellectuals?" What happened to wanting the "best and the brightest?"

I don't really understand it either...but I understand that it happens, and how it happens, with people being entranced by candidates like Bush and Palin.


As far as smart Republicans falling into this trap, it's all about money.

Most of my Republican friends vote Republican solely on tax policy...nothing else.

They block out everything else. It comes down to dollars in their pocket.

Now, it can be argued that you save more in the long run, by paying taxes for social services, but they don't think either.

They think short-term, who is going to take less of their money.

That's why the Bush tax cut, despite the fact it's going to turn out to be a long-term disaster, was a very smart political move. It gave people a quantifiable amount of money they'd have in their pocket.

JerseySean
11-04-2008, 11:12 AM
I can only hope the world has exploded or we've at least fallen into a post-apocalyptic wasteland at that point if there's even a chance of that happening.

If it's "elitist" of me, fine, whatever, but I do not understand how people can buy into the lowest common denominator crap. That interview, to me, sounded like they stopped a woman at the polls on her way to bringing the orange slices to her kid's soccer match. I see so many smart and flat out brilliant people who call themselves Republicans, yet there's been this disturbing trend over the last 30 years or so try and "dumb down" the voices and faces of the party as much as possible. Why? Why the aversion to "intellectuals?" What happened to wanting the "best and the brightest?"

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K.C.
11-04-2008, 11:14 AM
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I'm not one to pretend it doesn't work both ways (especially in this election).

But I would say that's more of a staple, at least in recent years, of GOP campaign policy to take it to the lowest common denominator, because it divides lower class voting groups.

EliSnow
11-04-2008, 11:23 AM
I'm not one to pretend it doesn't work both ways (especially in this election).

But I would say that's more of a staple, at least in recent years, of GOP campaign policy to take it to the lowest common denominator, because it divides lower class voting groups.

Exactly. There are idiots in both parties, but I do believe that the GOP is made up of a more populist group that gives off the message that if you are an intellectual, there is something wrong with you.

It's a message that if intellectuals don't have the common sense and that "Joe Six Pack" and "Main Street" really know what the problem is and how to take care of the problem.

JerseySean
11-04-2008, 11:27 AM
Exactly. There are idiots in both parties, but I do believe that the GOP is made up of a more populist group that gives off the message that if you are an intellectual, there is something wrong with you.

It's a message that if intellectuals don't have the common sense and that "Joe Six Pack" and "Main Street" really know what the problem is and how to take care of the problem.

Look, noone agrees with you guys more. But here is the deal, just like with porduct advertising, you need to appeal to LCD. We deserve more. We deserve more debates, we deserve more media coverage on issues and less on horserace. For example, McCain's healthcare policy is horrible. But the media has pretty much given it a pass. Actually so is Obama's. No voter knows what cap and trade means for them personally. It is the nature of the American public, LCD. And Republicans have been hip to that.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 11:30 AM
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That doesn't address what I brought up at all. That's one woman totally getting everything wrong and having ridiculous expectations that aren't even remotely close to what Obama was actually talked about. My post was talking about the general attitude drifting around "the Right" increasingly over the last couple of decades that's "anti-intellectual" that it's gotten to the point that it's left us wih people like Bush and Palin either actually in office or running for it. And no, that's not saying the Democrats don't have their share of humps, too, but it's disconserting to me to see that kind of rejection of "book smarts" for such pointless reasons. We should welcome and desire "intellectuals" to run for office and become pundits and enter politics and such, not shun them. I'm tired of "going by the gut."

K.C.
11-04-2008, 11:31 AM
Exactly. There are idiots in both parties, but I do believe that the GOP is made up of a more populist group that gives off the message that if you are an intellectual, there is something wrong with you.

It's a message that if intellectuals don't have the common sense and that "Joe Six Pack" and "Main Street" really know what the problem is and how to take care of the problem.

You said it.

The GOP created this bizarre bastard child of populism coalesced around social values, religion, and patriotism.

It worked for Bush because it split the middle class and poor which is what Republicans need to win.

2008 is a classic example, however, of when economics meet head on with social values, economics always win.

Things are so bad right now for people, that Obama is cleaning up on the light economic populism he's talking (which he adapted from John Edwards in the primary).

This is going to mark a change in Republican politics. They're going to have to shift to a more 'Mike Castle' (moderate Congressman from Delaware) style in the coming years.

EliSnow
11-04-2008, 11:32 AM
Look, noone agrees with you guys more. But here is the deal, just like with porduct advertising, you need to appeal to LCD. We deserve more. We deserve more debates, we deserve more media coverage on issues and less on horserace. For example, McCain's healthcare policy is horrible. But the media has pretty much given it a pass. Actually so is Obama's. No voter knows what cap and trade means for them personally. It is the nature of the American public, LCD. And Republicans have been hip to that.

And it's one of the reasons Bush won in 2000, and why Palin is so friggin' popular. And there is even some backlash against the Republican intellectuals for coming out and saying that picking Palin is a mistake. And it really is frustrating seeing smart people have to dumb it down to win the vote. And yes, I'm looking right at you Senator McCain.

It's just frustrating because the problems facing the country are complex and require complex answers, and it's a bonus when your leaders are very, very smart because they are better equipped to deal with the problems.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 11:32 AM
Look, noone agrees with you guys more. But here is the deal, just like with porduct advertising, you need to appeal to LCD. We deserve more. We deserve more debates, we deserve more media coverage on issues and less on horserace. For example, McCain's healthcare policy is horrible. But the media has pretty much given it a pass. Actually so is Obama's. No voter knows what cap and trade means for them personally. It is the nature of the American public, LCD. And Republicans have been hip to that.

It's a combo of that and a clearly concerted effort by the GOP and Right wing pundits to slam the idea of being an "intellectual." Yes, putting up the lowest common denominator will have it's appeal, but neither side HAS to do that to win or get into office. It's just lazy and bad for us...all of us. A smart guy like John McCain should never feel he has to pick a nitwit like Palin.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Yes, putting up the lowest common denominator will have it's appeal, but neither side HAS to do that to win or get into office.

That's debatable.

Some elections, yes, some elections, no.

If it's an economic election, Republicans have to find a way to divide the middle class to win, because most people don't agree with conservative economics.

If it's a national security, fiscal responsibility type of election, Republicans can win straight up on that (generally, although in recent years, Bush has shattered that preconception about Republican candidates).

The flip side is true for the Democrats.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 11:42 AM
That's debatable.

Some elections, yes, some elections, no.

If it's an economic election, Republicans have to find a way to divide the middle class to win, because most people don't agree with conservative economics.

If it's a national security, fiscal responsibility type of election, Republicans can win straight up on that (generally, although in recent years, Bush has shattered that preconception about Republican candidates).

The flip side is true for the Democrats.

Granted, yes, but you don't have to wallow SO readily at the very bottom. Again, I fully recognize that I flat out hate her, but I viewed the selection of Palin as the VP nomination as the breaking point for me in terms of tolerating what the GOP has become. Do they really think THAT low of the country to pretend or act like that's anywhere near the best they can offer? Adn no, I don't actually expect "the best," but come on...there's a huge spectrum between "the best" and Sarah-freakin'-Palin. People complain about there not being more major parties, but I'd settle for both parties putting up people that aren't just so blatantly there just to scrap the absolute bottom.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 11:52 AM
Granted, yes, but you don't have to wallow SO readily at the very bottom. Again, I fully recognize that I flat out hate her, but I viewed the selection of Palin as the VP nomination as the breaking point for me in terms of tolerating what the GOP has become. Do they really think THAT low of the country to pretend or act like that's anywhere near the best they can offer? An no, I don't actually expect "the best," but come on...there's a huge spectrum between "the best" and Sarah-freakin'-Palin. People complain about there not being more major parties, but I'd settle for both parties putting up people that aren't just so blatanly there just to scrap the absolute bottom.

I agree with that fully.

But if you look at it from McCain's position, he was in a tough spot. In the end his ambition of wanting to win overrode his sense of what he built himself up as his entire career.

If he had run the same campaign he ran in 2000 (which was a pretty honorable campaign), and picked Joe Lieberman, like he wanted to do, he would have lost half his base and likely this election in a landslide, because let's face it....no Republican was winning this election.

In the end, he wanted to be President no matter what it took. So he gambled that Palin would spark the divide between Hillary and Obama voters, based solely on gender, and that she would bring home the cultural conservatives (ironically, the same people who smeared him out of South Carolina) to him.

He lost that gamble.

In the end McCain will pay the price. He ruined his legacy with this election (and will likely lose his Senate seat to Janet Napolitano in Arizona), and barring a miraculous victory, will have nothing to show for it.


I agree, that it's better for everyone to just have an honest debate. But when a guy like McCain loses to someone like Bush, who McCain had to have viewed as a complete retard, because Bush played the LCD game better, it becomes a tantalizing proposition.


That's the conundrum of American politics. People want better elections, but when it comes down to it, they don't care enough to pay attention and force candidates to talk about anything.

So it'll never change until the voters change.

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 12:44 PM
I agree, that it's better for everyone to just have an honest debate. But when a guy like McCain loses to someone like Bush, who McCain had to have viewed as a complete retard, because Bush played the LCD game better, it becomes a tantalizing proposition.

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NewYorkDragons80
11-04-2008, 01:41 PM
Granted, yes, but you don't have to wallow SO readily at the very bottom. Again, I fully recognize that I flat out hate her, but I viewed the selection of Palin as the VP nomination as the breaking point for me in terms of tolerating what the GOP has become. Do they really think THAT low of the country to pretend or act like that's anywhere near the best they can offer? Adn no, I don't actually expect "the best," but come on...there's a huge spectrum between "the best" and Sarah-freakin'-Palin. People complain about there not being more major parties, but I'd settle for both parties putting up people that aren't just so blatantly there just to scrap the absolute bottom.

She had a pretty strong record in Alaska and had the highest approval ratings of any politician in America at the time she was chosen, so I don't think he saw it as selling his soul. His only mistake was in putting too much faith in his advisors. Who could've known she had zilch to offer on foreign policy?

K.C.
11-04-2008, 01:46 PM
She had a pretty strong record in Alaska and had the highest approval ratings of any politician in America at the time she was chosen, so I don't think he saw it as selling his soul. His only mistake was in putting too much faith in his advisors. Who could've known she had zilch to offer on foreign policy?

I question how well known she was, even in her own state.

Most polls have shown her popularity in Alaska plummeting quite a bit on the heels of this media blitz to find out about her.

NewYorkDragons80
11-04-2008, 01:48 PM
I question how well known she was, even in her own state.

Most polls have shown her popularity in Alaska plummeting quite a bit on the heels of this media blitz to find out about her.

Who does that say more about? Palin or the media blitz?

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 01:49 PM
She had a pretty strong record in Alaska and had the highest approval ratings of any politician in America at the time she was chosen, so I don't think he saw it as selling his soul. His only mistake was in putting too much faith in his advisors. Who could've known she had zilch to offer on foreign policy?

Anyone, if they vetted her properly.

NewYorkDragons80
11-04-2008, 01:51 PM
Anyone, if they vetted her properly.

Exactly, and McCain relied too much on his advisors

TheMojoPin
11-04-2008, 01:52 PM
Exactly, and McCain relied too much on his advisors

Well, yeah...it's not his job to investigate the VP choice.

K.C.
11-04-2008, 02:19 PM
Who does that say more about? Palin or the media blitz?

I think it says more about the voters.

thejives
11-04-2008, 09:34 PM
bye bye.

lock it up.

A.J.
11-04-2008, 11:13 PM
bye bye.

lock it up.

Until 2012.

mikeyboy
11-06-2008, 07:21 AM
Since the details within the McCain camp after Palin's selection have started to surface, I'm opening this one back up for now.

Palin didn't know Africa was a continent, the countries in NAFTA and refused to prep for the Katy Couric interview. (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/philip_sherwell/blog/2008/11/06/sarah_palin_didnt_know_africa_was_a_continent_clai m_mccain_aides)

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I can't say I'm unhappy that she's not a heartbeat from the Presidency.

celery
11-06-2008, 07:23 AM
I can't say I'm unhappy that she's not a heartbeat from the Presidency.

Is that a triple negative?

foodcourtdruide
11-06-2008, 07:29 AM
Since the details within the McCain camp after Palin's selection have started to surface, I'm opening this one back up for now.

Palin didn't know Africa was a continent, the countries in NAFTA and refused to prep for the Katy Couric interview. (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/philip_sherwell/blog/2008/11/06/sarah_palin_didnt_know_africa_was_a_continent_clai m_mccain_aides)

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I can't say I'm unhappy that she's not a heartbeat from the Presidency.

Why do you think this is all breaking form FoxNews? Do you think there's some nefarious attempt to discredit her at play? Or were they just closest to the McCain campaign so they're getting this info first?

IMSlacker
11-06-2008, 07:29 AM
Is that a triple negative?

He's a lawyer, he can't help it.

Dougie Brootal
11-06-2008, 07:30 AM
this is great! i hate that cunt more than anyone on the planet.

angrymissy
11-06-2008, 07:35 AM
Since the details within the McCain camp after Palin's selection have started to surface, I'm opening this one back up for now.

Palin didn't know Africa was a continent, the countries in NAFTA and refused to prep for the Katy Couric interview. (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/philip_sherwell/blog/2008/11/06/sarah_palin_didnt_know_africa_was_a_continent_clai m_mccain_aides)

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I can't say I'm unhappy that she's not a heartbeat from the Presidency.

The one where O'Reilly is talking to that guy is even better

"So, who cares, she can be tutored on Geography and NAFTA" :huh:

IMSlacker
11-06-2008, 07:36 AM
Why do you think this is all breaking form FoxNews? Do you think there's some nefarious attempt to discredit her at play? Or were they just closest to the McCain campaign so they're getting this info first?

Or did they hold back this information in an attempt to help the McCain campaign?

IMSlacker
11-06-2008, 07:37 AM
The one where O'Reilly is talking to that guy is even better

"So, who cares, she can be tutored on Geography and NAFTA" :huh:

Vice Presidential Tutor could be a new cabinet position.

Dougie Brootal
11-06-2008, 07:42 AM
Vice Presidential Tutor could be a new cabinet position.

maybe we shouldve had a Presidential Tutor for the last 8 years.

yojimbo7248
11-06-2008, 07:50 AM
this is great! i hate that cunt more than anyone on the planet.

Damn, that ups the "Palin is a cunt" count up to four.

Dougie Brootal
11-06-2008, 07:55 AM
Damn, that ups the "Palin is a cunt" count up to four.

you should hear me talking about her at home. theres not enough paper in the world to keep count!

mikeyboy
11-06-2008, 07:56 AM
this is great! i hate that cunt more than anyone on the planet.

You know, now that she's not a threat to be our leader, she may be my favorite person on the planet. What a train wreck!

Dougie Brootal
11-06-2008, 08:00 AM
You know, now that she's not a threat to be our leader, she may be my favorite person on the planet. What a train wreck!

i hate her like i hate britney spears, meaning i love to read about, hear about or see bad things happen to her.

edit: and stupid things she says or does.

King Hippos Bandaid
11-06-2008, 08:05 AM
im still waiting for the cameras to tell her your VP run was all a TV stunt

America you've been punk'd

foodcourtdruide
11-06-2008, 08:09 AM
If I was a conservative that supported Sarah Palin I'd feel really dumb right now.

EliSnow
11-10-2008, 11:26 AM
Palin's Analysis of GOP Loss (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/15474)

Thought I'd let everyone take a look and evaluate for themselves whether she hit the nail on the head.

One little query I had. She says:

“Just looking into the record. It was reported that I tried to ban Harry Potter when it hadn't even been written when I was the mayor. So, gosh, we have so many examples, I mean every day, especially the first few weeks, every day something that was thrown out there.”

I'm not sure what she means here. I have no idea whether she tried to ban it or not, but she was mayor of Wasilla from 1997 to 2002. The first Harry Potter book was published in the UK in June 1997 and in the states in 1998. The second one was published in June 1999 in the states.

Was the rumor that she tried to ban in in 1997, early 1998? Cause otherwise, her clarification sucks.


EDIT: Just looked it up. Apparently, she tried to ban a number of books including 4 Harry Potter books when she assumed office. So she couldn't have tried to ban Harry Potter in 1996-1997 because they hadn't been published yet.

HBox
11-10-2008, 11:40 AM
I never saw Harry potter mentioned. The only book that was mentioned specifically that I saw was a book on having a gay parents.

She is SO infuriating. She is an amalgamation all of the worst qualities of the worst politicians: a pandering, profoundly stupid woman with only enough interest to campaign and little to actually govern aside from getting her friends jobs.

brettmojo
11-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Cunt.

KingGeno
11-11-2008, 05:59 AM
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=b3293cec-74e9-455a-b0c9-7fe07c95dc95

Sarah Palin offered $2 million to appear in porn film
Husband Todd offered $100,000 and a snowmobile if he'll co-star, says Florida adult film producer
Chris Parry, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, November 07, 2008

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has received her first job offer since failing in her bid to become vice-president of the United States, and it comes with a large cash offer. Florida-based porn director Cezar Capone has offered to pay Palin $2 million to appear in an adult film production.

Capone, who calls himself "the king of all MILF films," promises in an open letter on his website that the film would be distributed internationally, shot in high definition, and feature a "beautiful mother recognized by all of America ... as the most desirable woman over 40."

To prove he's serious about the offer, Capone says he's prepared to hold the money in escrow immediately.

To sweeten the deal, Palin's husband Todd has been offered a co-starring role in the production, for which Capone would be "prepared to kick in an extra $100,000," and a new Arctic Cat snowmobile.

Palin hasn't publicly responded to the offer, which was sent to her administration office in Juneau, Alaska on Nov. 6.

Capone has previously released such films as Agent Filthy 0069, High Definition and Sophia Revealed, none of which featured any senior members of the U.S. Republican Party.

Hustler Magazine recently released a spoof Palin porn video titled Nailin' Paylin, which was referenced in a now-infamous YouTube prank call made by Montreal shock jocks the Masked Avengers in the final days of the U.S. election campaign.

KnoxHarrington
11-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Another interesting tale of the Palin campaign: the Secret Service saw a dramatic increase in the number of threats against Barack Obama after she began her inflammatory rhetoric against him in the campaign.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us?"

The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time.

Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: "Two plots to assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues."

For all her "aww-shucks, I'm just a hockey mom from Wasilia" bullshit, Palin proved in the campaign she has no scruples about using the most vile rhetoric to attack her opponents.

If her '12 campaign goes anywhere at all, that would be truly pathetic.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/106448/sarah_palin_blamed_by_the_us_secret_service_over_d eath_threats_against_barack_obama/

thejives
11-12-2008, 06:45 PM
This week is proof at how utterly inept Palin is politically.

The night of her catastrophic election loss featuring exit polls showing nearly 60% of voters believed she wasn't qualified be VP, she emphasizes that weakness by saying "I'm sorry f I cost John McCain even one vote." (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/article.html?Palin:_Im_sorry_if_I_cost_McCain_vote s&in_article_id=390314&in_page_id=64)

Brilliant. And in the following days, at the precise time to keep quiet and get the lay of the land before trying a relaunch, she goes on a media blitz (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin.future/?iref=hpmostpop) that coincides with party infighting about whether she knows the nations participating in NAFTA (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/07/mccain.palin/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail) ... just to make sure we all remember to associate her with incompetence and failure.

Then, at the peak of this idiocy, she hints that she would run for Ted Stevens seat if he was removed from office (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/11/12/palin-open-to-idea-of-senate-run/). But, wait... she didn't wait until the actual election was over, and mere hours after it hits the presses that she'd run, it turns out she won't be able to because the seat will go to a democrat and won't even be up for grabs. (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIFF00DjwVw_yFN4MkHDk3-mC9bQD94DOTFO0)

Eager to engage in partisan attacks? Vehemently pursuing party infighting? Ignorant of basic policy (or even geography)? Zero political instincts?

Oh yeah. Run her in 2012.

EliSnow
11-13-2008, 11:58 AM
Palin's making a huge mistake.

Now before I go into this more, I don't like the woman. I don't like her politics, I don't think she's got what it takes to be a leader for her party or the country, and I don't think she's got a chance in hell of succeeding at being the republican nominee.

That being said, she's making a huge mistake in the amount of exposure she's now allowing herself to have. She's doing too many interviews, interjecting her opinion on too many things that she doesn't have the experience to talk about.

And I get why she's doing. One reason is to counter the rumors, etc. about her being a diva, unknowledgable. etc. Another reason is to take advantage of the amount of fame and popularity she generated during the election.

The problem is that, because of the campaign and this, she's making herself a celebrity and overdoing her exposure. While America loves celebrities, it can turn on them quickly, especially if there is overexposure. And I think she's close to that. Plus, the only good thing for the popularity is to help her get a leadership position in the party for 2010 or 2012. But both of them are a ways away.

So I say, do an interview or two to counter rumors, etc, but then go back to Alaska and your other job. Be smart about your expression of opinions. Don't comment on everything right away. Build a resume, and experience, but don't try to do it right away. Cause it don't matter if you are the "people's leader" of the GOP in 2009. It matters if you are the leader in 2011-2012.

Recyclerz
11-13-2008, 12:25 PM
Palin's making a huge mistake.

Now before I go into this more, I don't like the woman. I don't like her politics, I don't think she's got what it takes to be a leader for her party or the country, and I don't think she's got a chance in hell of succeeding at being the republican nominee.

That being said, she's making a huge mistake in the amount of exposure she's now allowing herself to have. She's doing too many interviews, interjecting her opinion on too many things that she doesn't have the experience to talk about.

And I get why she's doing. One reason is to counter the rumors, etc. about her being a diva, unknowledgable. etc. Another reason is to take advantage of the amount of fame and popularity she generated during the election.

The problem is that, because of the campaign and this, she's making herself a celebrity and overdoing her exposure. While America loves celebrities, it can turn on them quickly, especially if there is overexposure. And I think she's close to that. Plus, the only good thing for the popularity is to help her get a leadership position in the party for 2010 or 2012. But both of them are a ways away.

So I say, do an interview or two to counter rumors, etc, but then go back to Alaska and your other job. Be smart about your expression of opinions. Don't comment on everything right away. Build a resume, and experience, but don't try to do it right away. Cause it don't matter if you are the "people's leader" of the GOP in 2009. It matters if you are the leader in 2011-2012.

SSSHHHHHH! You're gonna roooooon it!!!

I say if the Republicans want to hitch their wagon to this charismatic, mavericky, reformin' hockey MILF, who are we elitists from the Democrat Party to tell them not to?

Seriously, if this hype still surrounds the Palin Posse two years from now it will be apparent that the Republican Party will need another drubbing at the ballot box before the adults over there can wrest control of the steering wheel from the hayseeds and put the opinion leadership of the Party in the hands of thinkers rather than the entertainers who are telling the hoi polloi what to think nowadays.

And then who knows? We might all be on the ScottinNJ in 2016 bandwagon. :wink:

HBox
11-21-2008, 08:18 AM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/z-kjM1asH-8&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/z-kjM1asH-8&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Very unfortunate timing and placement.

Furtherman
11-21-2008, 08:23 AM
That is f'n hilarious.... is that kind of turkey beak sharpening machine? Or it just tears its head off? Hahahaha.

AKA
11-21-2008, 10:25 AM
That is f'n hilarious.... is that kind of turkey beak sharpening machine? Or it just tears its head off? Hahahaha.

A little info can be found here. (http://back40forums.com/index.php?topic=372.0)

Furtherman
11-21-2008, 10:31 AM
A little info can be found here. (http://back40forums.com/index.php?topic=372.0)

I always hold the bird a little while before putting it into the
killing cone, and speaking in a soft voice, thank the bird for sharing
it's life with me and giving up it's life to nurture others. We did
this in our commercial operation by having a short ceremony before
slaughter began. If you ever come to a place that slaughter is just
another day, get a glass of tea, go sit in a shady, quiet place and
think about your role in the web of life. It's o.k. to shed some
tears.

Perfect! I'm saying this at Thanksgiving dinner.

thejives
11-21-2008, 04:15 PM
Bloody animal death.

That's exactly what America should associate her with.

epo
11-21-2008, 04:57 PM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/z-kjM1asH-8&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/z-kjM1asH-8&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Very unfortunate timing and placement.

I beg all of my republican friends.....support Palin in 2012!

NewYorkDragons80
11-21-2008, 05:00 PM
I beg all of my republican friends.....support Palin in 2012!

Wait, I thought Obama and his supporters were about making this country better and moving from divisive politics.

epo
11-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Wait, I thought Obama and his supporters were about making this country better and moving from divisive politics.

I'm simply making fun of how silly this woman is.

keithy_19
11-23-2008, 02:04 AM
I'm simply making fun of how silly this woman is.

I bang her silly!








::criquet::

Jujubees2
11-23-2008, 07:26 AM
I bang her silly!








::criquet::

Yeah but Keithy, can you really trust her?

eeroomnhoj
11-23-2008, 08:13 AM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/z-kjM1asH-8&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/z-kjM1asH-8&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Very unfortunate timing and placement.


Very funny.

keithy_19
11-23-2008, 11:42 AM
Yeah but Keithy, can you really trust her?

To get me off'? I'm willing to be let down.

Furtherman
11-24-2008, 12:57 PM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qLKN6mPCQHU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qLKN6mPCQHU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

epo
12-15-2008, 04:38 PM
CNN: McCain unsure if he'd support Palin for president (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/14/mccain-unsure-if-hed-support-palin-for-president/)

Sen. John McCain said Sunday he would not necessarily support his former running mate if she chose to run for president.

Speaking to ABC's "This Week," McCain was asked whether Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could count on his support. "I can't say something like that. We've got some great other young governors. I think you're going to see the governors assume a greater leadership role in our Republican Party," he said, citing Governors Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Jon Huntsman of Utah.

Its funny how these unnatural combos like Kerry/Edwards or McCain/Palin end up hating each other after the fact.

KatPw
12-15-2008, 04:40 PM
When is Bristol's crotchfruit due to be shoved out?

A.J.
12-15-2008, 10:02 PM
crotchfruit

Fucking starving.

Jujubees2
12-19-2008, 08:15 AM
Levi's Mom Busted for Drugs (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28313509/)

(and the baby is due on Saturday)

KatPw
12-19-2008, 09:25 AM
Levi's Mom Busted for Drugs (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28313509/)

(and the baby is due on Saturday)

Wonder what type of drug she was busted for? I'm betting prescription opiates.

angrymissy
12-19-2008, 10:11 AM
One of the charges was "manufacture of", and Wasilla is the "Meth Capital" of AK.

Lovely! Imagine if this was Obama's future in-laws?

KatPw
12-19-2008, 10:12 AM
One of the charges was "manufacture of", and Wasilla is the "Meth Capital" of AK.

Lovely! Imagine if this was Obama's future in-laws?
Holy fuck, I totally forgot about the meth thing. Crazy shit. What a classy family.

angrymissy
12-19-2008, 10:17 AM
After Palin was the one blabbing about REAL AMERICANS and FAMILY VALUES

After Palin was flipping out about the people Obama "associates" with... looks like her family associates with drug dealers.

I mean, can you believe she could have been VP?

KatPw
12-19-2008, 10:18 AM
I'm sure she would try to spin it in her own special mavericky way. Like a "hate the sin, not the sinner" kind of answer. Vomit.

angrymissy
12-19-2008, 10:19 AM
I'm sure she would try to spin it in her own special mavericky way. Like a "hate the sin, not the sinner" kind of answer. Vomit.

hahaha well all she's saying now is:

When asked about the arrest, Palin's spokesman, Bill McAllister, issued the following statement by e-mail: "This is not a state government matter. Therefore the governor's communications staff will not be providing comment or scheduling interview opportunities."

KatPw
12-19-2008, 10:22 AM
How is a drug manufacturing bust not a state governmental matter?

NewYorkDragons80
12-19-2008, 11:19 AM
Don't you think it's just a teensy bit nasty to tap-dance on the misfortune of somebody so insignificant?

brettmojo
12-19-2008, 11:21 AM
Don't you think it's just a teensy bit nasty to tap-dance on the misfortune of somebody so insignificant?
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5651/9506jz6.gif

Furtherman
12-19-2008, 11:36 AM
Don't you think it's just a teensy bit nasty to tap-dance on the misfortune of somebody so insignificant?

It is. However, a lot of people against Obama tap-danced to the whole Ayers nonsense, so you're going to get it from both sides.

GreatAmericanZero
12-19-2008, 11:38 AM
Don't you think it's just a teensy bit nasty to tap-dance on the misfortune of somebody so insignificant?

i always laugh at the "short bus". Does it make me a bad person? Probably...but i can live with myself

Jujubees2
12-19-2008, 11:39 AM
Don't you think it's just a teensy bit nasty to tap-dance on the misfortune of somebody so insignificant?

Nah, in this case it's actually quite fun.

angrymissy
12-19-2008, 11:42 AM
I don't find it nasty considering she was all about REAL 'MERICKANS and FAMILY VALUES and OBAMA ASSOCIATES WITH ICKY PEOPLE... it's so hypocritical you CAN'T avoid commenting.

NewYorkDragons80
12-20-2008, 05:35 AM
I don't find it nasty considering she was all about REAL 'MERICKANS and FAMILY VALUES and OBAMA ASSOCIATES WITH ICKY PEOPLE... it's so hypocritical you CAN'T avoid commenting.

As a proud urban Republican who voted for that ticket, that city/country divisiveness she reintroduced was the most painful part of the election for me. However, what does this guy's mom have to do with that? I don't hold Sarah Palin responsible for Johnston's actions and I don't hold Johnston accountable to Sarah Palin's speeches.

SatCam
12-20-2008, 05:03 PM
Wonder what type of drug she was busted for? I'm betting prescription opiates.

turns out her dealer was Cindy McCain

http://www.facereadingdeck.com/images/cindy_mccain.jpg

Tenbatsuzen
12-20-2008, 05:41 PM
There's a picture of Alyson Hannigan dressed up as Palin in this week's Entertainment Wekkly.

http://fyfi.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/must_not_fap.jpg

NickyL0885
12-20-2008, 05:43 PM
There's a picture of Alyson Hannigan dressed up as Palin in this week's Entertainment Wekkly.

http://fyfi.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/must_not_fap.jpg

useless without pics.

Tenbatsuzen
12-20-2008, 05:45 PM
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/081217/Sarah-Palin-McCain_l.jpg

mikeyboy
12-20-2008, 05:57 PM
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/081217/Sarah-Palin-McCain_l.jpg

Wow. That makes her even less appealing than usual.

Tenbatsuzen
12-20-2008, 06:30 PM
Wow. That makes her even less appealing than usual.

Not a very good shot, I agree.

But definitely an appealing concept.

TheMojoPin
12-20-2008, 07:20 PM
Wow. That makes her even less appealing than usual.

I follow you anywhere, my captain. You only speak the truth.

A.J.
12-30-2008, 04:24 AM
When is Bristol's crotchfruit due to be shoved out?


Baby's here: Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20245389,00.html)

Ritalin
12-30-2008, 04:42 AM
When's the wedding?

epo
12-30-2008, 08:53 AM
When's the wedding?

It happens in that Levi Johnston's nightmares each and every night.

KingModem
12-30-2008, 08:58 AM
Never noticed the cans on that Palin girl before. Wow.

And of course she had to follow the naming scheme set forth by grandma.

HBox
12-30-2008, 11:18 AM
Baby's here: Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20245389,00.html)

Vacation Louisville Slugger Mitchell Johnston was a close second.

keithy_19
12-30-2008, 01:41 PM
Vacation Louisville Slugger Mitchell Johnston was a close second.


:lol:

epo
01-27-2009, 05:15 PM
Palin launches political action committee (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/27/palin-launches-political-action-committee/#more-37483)

Sarah Palin has launched a new political action committee called SarahPac, signaling that the Alaska Governor intends to remain a player in national politics even after her failed bid to become the country’s first female vice president.

"SarahPac will support local and national candidates who share Gov. Palin's ideas and goals for our country," says the PAC’s Web site, which promises that Palin will be "a strong voice for energy independence and reform."

Of course she wants to stay in the limelight. I can only pray she has BIG intentions.....

The domain name "SarahPac.com" was registered on January 2 to Campaign Solutions, a Web consulting firm in northern Virginia with longstanding ties to John McCain, which processed online donations for the McCain campaign and the Republican National Committee in 2008. The URL is set to expire in 2012, according to online records.

Oh please lord, let this batshit insane chick run in 2012. We need more comedy in this nation.

high fly
01-27-2009, 05:19 PM
Of course she wants to stay in the limelight. I can only pray she has BIG intentions.....



Oh please lord, let this batshit insane chick run in 2012. We need more comedy in this nation.


I agree.
I hope she doesn't fuck up and remains the darling of the Taliban wing of the GOP.

Last I heard, the mother of the father of Palin's bastard grandchild was busted for dope.
The father of the bastard is back trying to get his G.E.D....

Knowledged_one
01-27-2009, 05:49 PM
I agree.
I hope she doesn't fuck up and remains the darling of the Taliban wing of the GOP.

Last I heard, the mother of the father of Palin's bastard grandchild was busted for dope.
The father of the bastard is back trying to get his G.E.D....

your life must really suck to be such a petty little person i actually feel sorry for you

high fly
01-28-2009, 10:38 AM
your life must really suck to be such a petty little person i actually feel sorry for you


What?
Is this a sign the "rock-ribbed Republicans" have abandoned their "family values"?

Must be that Coulter book...

mikeyboy
01-28-2009, 10:39 AM
your life must really suck to be such a petty little person i actually feel sorry for you

Knock it off. If I guy is commenting about politics, there's now reason to take a shot at him if you disagree.

Knowledged_one
01-28-2009, 12:45 PM
I disagree and take offense that this person compares americans serving their country to members of the taliban and what is even sadder is that you take umbrage with my comments and not the ones insulting people serving this country.
high fly i hope you or members of your family are killed in a terrorist attack you america hating bitch

high fly
01-28-2009, 01:08 PM
I disagree and take offense that this person compares americans serving their country to members of the taliban and what is even sadder is that you take umbrage with my comments and not the ones insulting people serving this country.
high fly i hope you or members of your family are killed in a terrorist attack you america hating bitch



I'm sorry you feel that way.
I use the expression "Taliban wing of the Republican Party" to refer to the bloodthirty religious fundamentalists who hold so much sway.

I did not refer to members of the military.
Sine my family are all Americans, it is regrettable that you would support terrorist attacks on Americans, but there you have it!


I hope you will reconsider...

KingGeno
02-10-2009, 05:31 AM
Why?

Two Sarah Palin feature films in the planning............. (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/02/09/sarah_palin_the_movie_)


Alaska governor Sarah Palin (http://www.starpulse.com/Notables/Palin,_Sarah/) has inspired two of Hollywood's top screenwriters to fight for the right to make a movie about her life.

Republican Palin's role in the 2008 White House race divided America, with many questioning her credentials, her intelligence and her penchant for moose-hunting. But Tinseltown's top scribes believe she is great movie material.

(http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Milk/)
Milk (http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Milk/) writer Dustin Lance Black tells Variety, "I'm always down for politics as humor. I'm also interested in great characters."

(http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Visitor,_The/)
The Visitor (http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Visitor,_The/) writer Todd McCarty, meanwhile, wants to focus any movie he makes on the TEENAGE BOY DOUCHE who impregnated Palin's 17-year-old daughter Bristol. He says, "This young man gets his girlfriend pregnant and ends up on the Republican platform at the National Convention. There's a dark comedy there somewhere. He was like a deer in the headlights."

A.J.
02-10-2009, 05:37 AM
Why?

Two Sarah Palin feature films in the planning............. (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/02/09/sarah_palin_the_movie_)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TOHTDsQ7iR4/SJsdnmY2xKI/AAAAAAAAAoQ/EX1Y1kCIi7I/s320/lifetime_l.jpg

foodcourtdruide
02-10-2009, 05:47 AM
Why?

Two Sarah Palin feature films in the planning............. (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/02/09/sarah_palin_the_movie_)

I agree with Todd McCarty. There's something really brilliant about the story of a 17-year old kid that gets his gf pregnant and ends up in the middle of the one of the biggest media circus in this countries history.

epo
03-11-2009, 01:09 PM
Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston Break Off Engagement (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-break-off-engagement.php)

Sarah Palin's 18-year-old daughter Bristol has reportedly broken off her engagement with Levi Johnston, the father of her 2-month-old son Tripp. It's surprising because in an interview just last month with FOX's Gretta Van Susteren, Bristol said the 19-year-old Levi is a hands-on dad and that they planned on marrying after finishing their education.

But in a new interview with Star Magazine, Levi's sister Mercede Johnston says Bristol actually broke up with Levi more than a month ago, is not attending school and rarely lets her baby daddy see their young son. Mercede also says Bristol even told him that she hates him and, when she learned she was pregnant, wished the baby wasn't his.

Mercede told Star: "Bristol's just crazy. That's the nicest way I can put it. She and Levi actually broke up a while ago!"

I know! You are as shocked as I am!

EliSnow
03-11-2009, 01:12 PM
Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston Break Off Engagement (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-break-off-engagement.php)



I know! You are as shocked as I am!

While I would laugh like Mojo watching a Richard Dreyfuss death scene, it is Star Magazine reporting this, right?

mikeyboy
03-11-2009, 01:12 PM
I kind of miss Palin. The spectacle was pure entertainment.

Furtherman
03-11-2009, 01:19 PM
Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston Break Off Engagement (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-break-off-engagement.php)



I know! You are as shocked as I am!

Called it!



.... and who didn't, really?

keithy_19
03-11-2009, 04:02 PM
So Bristol is single? I know she has a kid and that her family is very conservative, but she puts out...I'm gonna get on that.

Don Stugots
03-11-2009, 04:38 PM
So Bristol is single? I know she has a kid and that her family is very conservative, but she puts out...I'm gonna get on that.

send her some flowers and she is all yours bro. take some pics for us

keithy_19
03-11-2009, 09:20 PM
send her some flowers and she is all yours bro. take some pics for us

I'm on it!

1-800-FLOWERS here I call!

Dave's Cackle
03-12-2009, 02:45 AM
50 years ago, the Republicans in her small Alaska town would have driven Bristol to the county line and banished her.

Today, they'd just do the 21st century equivalent - indoctrinate her with some fundamentalist Christian ideals...

A.J.
03-12-2009, 03:24 AM
Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston Break Off Engagement (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-break-off-engagement.php)

Maybe it was God's will.

brettmojo
03-12-2009, 04:54 AM
Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston Break Off Engagement (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-break-off-engagement.php)



I know! You are as shocked as I am!

Probably the least surprising thing ever.

So Bristol is single? I know she has a kid and that her family is very conservative, but she puts out...I'm gonna get on that.
Get in line.

NewYorkDragons80
03-12-2009, 05:19 AM
take some pics for us

You're the worst board character ever

EliSnow
06-25-2009, 12:29 PM
Palin bitches about internet blogger. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/)

I don't like Palin, but I really think she needs to learn to let some of this stuff go. If you just keep complaining all the time, you don't appear strong.

If she wants to be a presidential candidate, I think she needs to stop this type stuff, especially when it's internet bloggers.

I do think it's offensive and her infant should not be used like this, but still.

angrymissy
06-25-2009, 12:33 PM
They didn't use her infant in any poor light.

They photoshopped someone else's face (a radio host who gave out names and phone numbers of anti-Palin ralliers) onto her kids body to make it look like she was cradling him like a baby.

EliSnow
06-25-2009, 12:36 PM
They didn't use her infant in any poor light.

They photoshopped someone else's face (a radio host who gave out names and phone numbers of anti-Palin ralliers) onto her kids body to make it look like she was cradling him like a baby.

Thanks. That wasn't clear to me.