mass shooting 100 day challenge

[deliciousV]

Was there an official report of what weapons was used in Newtown? I've read conflicting stories about Lanza keeping the .223 in his car

the gun he left in his car was an Izhmash Saiga-12 combat shotgun , it was seen from a news chopper and mistaken for an assault rifle because it looks like one.

[PapaBear]

What weapon was used to shoot Giffords?

Kelly testified about assault weapons. If you're going on the hill to discuss a serious topic and then buy the same weapon you believe should be banned common sense is that youre just opening yourself up to being questioned
SHE WAS NEVER SHOT IN YOUR SCENERIO!!! :wallbash: I give up.

[sailor]

What weapon was used to shoot Giffords?

Kelly testified about assault weapons. If you're going on the hill to discuss a serious topic and then buy the same weapon you believe should be banned common sense is that youre just opening yourself up to being questioned

I can see it being hypocritical to say something should be banned and then buying one, yourself. Certainly. Then again, you can reason that while they are still legal, buying one would put yourself on more even footing with what your perception of the bad guys, until they might get banned. Personally, I'll give him a pass, due to his wife getting shot.

[A.J.]

Why would he buy an AR 15 then? If he's against civilians owning them he shouldn't have bought one. I'm not buying his excuse of that he was going to give it to the police

Even if he bought one and Giffords was never shot. Why open himself to scrutiny. If I was someone who thought AR's shouldn't be owned by civilians , I would never consider even looking at one.

My understanding was that he wanted to show the ease with which he could get one.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My understanding was that he wanted to show the ease with which he could get one.



In states like AZ and TX that is true however it's not like that in the NE

Here in CT we have one of the most strict gun laws

[A.J.]

In states like AZ and TX that is true however it's not like that in the NE

Here in CT we have one of the most strict gun laws

True that.

[hanso]

Police say gunman who killed 4 in upstate New York is dead after shootout

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/14/police-say-gunman-who-killed-4-in-upstate-new-york-is-dead-after-shootout/

[deliciousV]

Police say gunman who killed 4 in upstate New York is dead after shootout

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/14/police-say-gunman-who-killed-4-in-upstate-new-york-is-dead-after-shootout/

So a bad guy had a gun and shot people with it, and good guys with guns stopped him?

<a href="http://s126.beta.photobucket.com/user/ftp000/media/A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/ftp000/A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg"/></a>

I love it when a plan comes together

[Dell]

So a bad guy had a gun and shot people with it, and good guys with guns stopped him?

<a href="http://s126.beta.photobucket.com/user/ftp000/media/A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/ftp000/A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg"/></a>

I love it when a plan comes together

good one...

[DarkHippie]

So a bad guy had a gun and shot people with it, and good guys with guns stopped him?

<a href="http://s126.beta.photobucket.com/user/ftp000/media/A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/ftp000/A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo A-Team_zps4bafdff9.jpg"/></a>

I love it when a plan comes together

Bravo Sierra. The A-Team never actually hit anymore. they just blew up the cars behind the bad guys

[deliciousV]

Bravo Sierra. The A-Team never actually hit anymore. they just blew up the cars behind the bad guys

Oh literal DarkHippie....

[WRESTLINGFAN]

CT Loses an Icon





http://news.yahoo.com/colt-shuts-plant-workers-talk-113403810.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UbFcUNRtzcAlEzQtDMD

[sailor]

CT Loses an Icon





http://news.yahoo.com/colt-shuts-plant-workers-talk-113403810.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UbFcUNRtzcAlEzQtDMD

They closed for the day and got a field trip.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My bad on that

[A.J.]

My bad on that

Maybe not. The day is coming where Colt will be forced to relocate to another state.

Perhaps Virginia, home of the NRA!

[spoon]

They closed for the day and got a field trip.

yet more proof wf doesn't even read the fucking shit he links

HEADLINES baby!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yet more proof wf doesn't even read the fucking shit he links

HEADLINES baby!

No excuses. I pulled an Eric Holder on that. I didn't read all of it.


Just like your politicians passing thousand page bills that they never read ?

[epo]

yet more proof wf doesn't even read the fucking shit he links

HEADLINES baby!

Reading is hard.

[Snoogans]

No excuses. I pulled an Eric Holder on that. I didn't read all of it.


Just like your politicians passing thousand page bills that they never read ?

wait, you moved out of the US? They are your politicians too, dummy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

wait, you moved out of the US? They are your politicians too, dummy



Yea I was deported to Guatemala.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Reading is hard.



Especially Dodd Frank and Obamacare but it still passed


Pelosi wanted the ACA passed in order to see what's in it


Cuomo signed the SAFE act not knowing there were no exemptions for the 7 round limit including state troopers who protect him

[spoon]

your idiocy has no ties to those of others (not to mention those urging others to vote yes on something surely knew what was in the bills more than most times...it's called pushing your agenda)

it's amazing your level of stupidity and lack of awareness of it





when you get a speeding ticket, do you just talk to the cop about Corzine speeding down the parkway to get out of it? fucking dummy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If I go 15 miles over the speed limit and I get a ticket, it doesn't affect millions of people
Every time your politicians go and reform things with these pathetic bills they manage to fuck things up even more


Gawd you're unbearable

[spoon]

If I go 15 miles over the speed limit and I get a ticket, it doesn't affect millions of people
Every time your politicians go and reform things with these pathetic bills they manage to fuck things up even more


Gawd you're unbearable

yes, unbearable pointing out the TRUE point of a post, not some fucking bullshit loose tie in to take the focus off your idiocy

nice try fuckwad, you lose again

you don't even read the conservative news feeds you get past the headlines 90% of the time and you know it...just admit it this time, you were just parroting some more shit you stole from elsewhere

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You complain that I didn't read all of 1 article but you didn't see that I posted it from Yahoo!!


Nice work dope

[spoon]

You complain that I didn't read all of 1 article but you didn't see that I posted it from Yahoo!!


Nice work dope

you really don't know how the news feeds you subscribe to work do you? much less links on drudge, etc.

:wallbash:

yes, dope indeed

[spoon]

and let's not act like this is even CLOSE to the first time

that's like Madonna claiming to be a virgin after having another orgy

and you have cum on your face

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you really don't know how the news feeds you subscribe to work do you? much less links on drudge, etc.

:wallbash:

yes, dope indeed


I did not go to Drudge.


Fucking dope

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and let's not act like this is even CLOSE to the first time

that's like Madonna claiming to be a virgin after having another orgy

and you have cum on your face

Again!!

I did not go to drudge.


You have egg on yours

[spoon]

ha!

do you go to drudge?






bc I was being literal and didn't open that to other sites LIKE it...much less feeds


you really are a fucking fool

keep trying idiot

tell me more about Colt closing and how it ties into bills not being read before being passed...much less that happening every fucking time, not just those instances

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Since when is a link from Yahoo from a feed via AP a right wing blog?

[spoon]

yahoo is NEVER linked anywhere, got it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You made some conspiracy that I went to drudge and got called out.


Now you're just trying to make excuses and weasel out of that claim

[spoon]

and let's cut to the chase, even IF you just found this on yahoo and didn't just fall in line with one of your bullshit sites/feeds, YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THE FUCKING FIRST SENTENCE of the story.

so where you got this doesn't even matter...but here we are again working on another stupid side factor I don't give a shit about outside of a passing shot at your idiocy

thanks for making it even more hilarious fuckwad fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I owned up to my oversight but you know what ? I don't have the power to raise your taxes or steal your liberty

However these lowlife politicians pass bills in which they never read and it affects almost everyone

[spoon]

You made some conspiracy that I went to drudge and got called out.


Now you're just trying to make excuses and weasel out of that claim

oh my fucking God

sure thing idiot

unreal levels of stupidity

the stupidity force is strong with this one

duh

[spoon]

I owned up to my oversight but you know what ? I don't have the power to raise your taxes or steal your liberty

However these lowlife politicians pass bills in which they never read and it affects almost everyone

great point!



:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I don't fall in line . I didn't vote for the Mormon candidate or a President who has a cult following

[spoon]

I don't fall in line . I didn't vote for the Mormon candidate or a President who has a cult following

blah blah blah blah

idiot fooling nobody, but quite the fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Good guy with a gun interferes on beating.


Thankfully the Marine didn't have to fire his weapon or else Sharpton and company would have another issue to insert themselves in.


From the article.


Although Blackmore kept his cool. When police arrived, they forced the suspect to the ground and asked for Blackmore's concealed carry permit.

“I put my hands up turned around and said ‘you can grab it out of my wallet.’ Checked my permit, gave me my wallet back, and then interviewed me for their paperwork,” Blackmore told WITI.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/16/charlie-blackmore-marine-veteran-draws-gun_n_2891176.html

[A.J.]

Ooo-rah.

[hanso]

When ever non- lethal force is used Sharpton always comes to mind.

[epo]

Especially Dodd Frank and Obamacare but it still passed


Pelosi wanted the ACA passed in order to see what's in it


Cuomo signed the SAFE act not knowing there were no exemptions for the 7 round limit including state troopers who protect him

Have you read the ACA? If you did, then you'd understand Pelosi's quote.

Until then you are nothing more than a Fox News talking point parrot.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Have you read the ACA? If you did, then you'd understand Pelosi's quote.

Until then you are nothing more than a Fox News talking point parrot.

I don't give a fuck if some 20 year old staffer read bits and pieces of Obamacare. In the end it was her who had to make the decision and vote for something that wont affect her at all
I knew exactly what she meant with those words. Basically it meant to trust her.
I doubt any of these politicians read the hundreds of pages and corresponding regulations affiliated with it.

Wow nice way to spin that. You really are a partisan hack


Obamacare is going to be just another worthless big government clusterfuck

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When ever non- lethal force is used Sharpton always comes to mind.



Tell that to Steven Pagones

Even though the Brawley case turned out to be a sham he was accused of forcing himself on her

[Jujubees2]

The only thing that could have been better is if he had bought the gun and ammo at Walmart

Double amputee fleeing in electric cart busted by cops and charged with gunning down Walmart worker in fight over service dog (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/double-amputee-gunman-nabbed-alaska-walmart-shooting-article-1.1291707#ixzz2NvfDg4Ly)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those fucking mits on him are horrendous.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Assault weapon ban dropped from Senate gun control bill.

[spoon]

we are saved!

[Dell]

Have you read the ACA? If you did, then you'd understand Pelosi's quote.

Until then you are nothing more than a Fox News talking point parrot.

better to be a CNN talking parrot...here, here

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I want to give Rangel the benefit of the doubt. After all he is 82

http://www.examiner.com/article/rep-charlie-rangel-falsely-claims-millions-of-kids-killed-by-assault-weapons

[brettmojo]

I want to give Rangel the benefit of the doubt. After all he is 82

http://www.examiner.com/article/rep-charlie-rangel-falsely-claims-millions-of-kids-killed-by-assault-weapons

When asked for clarification by CNN his rep said he meant to say millions of children affected by it... Not killed by it... Still doesn't make sense.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/25/sharpton_no_doubt_some_gun_rights_supporters_are_a nti-semitic_towards_bloomberg.html


I'm willing to agree that there might be a small minority of people who are anti Semitic towards Bloomberg but Al Sharpton agreeing with Barnacle is laughable


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[hanso]

Appalachians can have guns as protection from monsters and aliens.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

More words of wisdom by Moore

http://marketdailynews.com/2013/03/25/michael-moore-says-90-of-guns-are-owned-by-scared-white-people/

Does that include his bodyguard cited For an unlicensed weapon ???

[WRESTLINGFAN]

At least Kelly is getting his money refunded


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/kelly-gun-purchase_n_2954875.html

[Jujubees2]

At least Kelly is getting his money refunded


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/kelly-gun-purchase_n_2954875.html

So the gun shop owner violated Kelly's second amendment right? Who does he think he is, the federal government?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So the gun shop owner violated Kelly's second amendment right? Who does he think he is, the federal government?



The bill of rights don't apply in regards to the states

Maybe Kelly is a straw purchaser and would have given it to the cartels.


As much as I disagree with Cuomo's SAFE act, If NY wants a 7 round limit, it's their call. It shouldn't be that way for the entire country

[spoon]

but but, the aliens will dodge 7 times and then STRIKE!

[Jujubees2]

I'm so sick of this shit. So fucking sick of it.

And I'm convinced as a country we will never do anything about it.

Looks like you are correct HBox

[Jujubees2]

Arsenal of weapons including guns, a gun safe with shotgun shells, a bayonet and several swords found in home of Newtown killer Adam Lanza (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/warrants-released-newtown-investigation-article-1.1301082#ixzz2OqoWaVjr)

This idiot of a mother gave him a check to purchase another firearm!

[A.J.]

Like I said the day that shooting happened, I blame his mother for this. She knew her son was fucked up and allowed him to be close to and stockpile an arsenal.

Fuck her.

[spoon]

we still have a cultural problem in the end with so few controlling any reasonable change, not taking your guns, legislation every fucking time this occurs and the gun violence in this country is pretty putrid whether inner city based or in the burbs. simply put, gun show loopholes, background checks are not even close to a bad idea...but you know, slippery slope

Hbox was right and we all knew he'd be. This has been the pattern for decades now with any true reform, especially gun/NRA involved change.

[Jujubees2]

Like I said the day that shooting happened, I blame his mother for this. She knew her son was fucked up and allowed him to be close to and stockpile an arsenal.

Fuck her.

Necrophiliac?

[A.J.]

Necrophiliac?

Right in her bullet wound!

[deliciousV]

we still have a cultural problem in the end with so few controlling any reasonable change, not taking your guns, legislation every fucking time this occurs and the gun violence in this country is pretty putrid whether inner city based or in the burbs. simply put, gun show loopholes, background checks are not even close to a bad idea...but you know, slippery slope

Hbox was right and we all knew he'd be. This has been the pattern for decades now with any true reform, especially gun/NRA involved change.

As I've said before, I agree with this. I'm afraid that it would have very little effect though. Most gun violence is gang bangers and street thugs with illegal guns. The asshole in Newtown used weapons that were banned in Conn already.
I'm all for the things you said, that I highlighted, but it's hard to ignore the probability that the lawless will find a way thru it, so it might not help, other than making us feel like we tried.

[A.J.]

And, in the case of Lanza, his mother bought guns. So even if she was found to be OK to have them and he wasn't , he still had access to them.

[deliciousV]

And, in the case of Lanza, his mother bought guns. So even if she was found to be OK to have them and he wasn't , he still had access to them.

the Rifles she had, and that he used, were not legal for her, or anyone, in Conn. She was outside the law, and wrong in so many ways.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see the President is continuing his douche baggery and using props to push more gun control

He gave another speech today.

More theatrics by that lowlife , cries for kids but Mr Nobel peace prize winner has kids vaporized via drones

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAWS ALREADY!!!!!


http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2013/03/26/proof-the-obama-administration-is-going-after-the-good-guys-with-guns/


From the article


"The TRAC study also determined that the number of federal weapons prosecutions has fallen nearly every year in the U.S. from a high of 11,015 in 2004 to 7,774 in 2012. In fact, according to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service (NCJRS), in 2010 of the 6 million Americans who attempted to buy a gun, about 76,000 were denied. Of those, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) referred 4,732 cases for prosecution. Of these, 44 people were prosecuted and 13 were punished."

"Last Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, held up a print out of a study done by Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC), a data-gathering and research organization run by Syracuse University, that found that out of 90 federal jurisdictions, in 2012 Chicago ranked last for prosecuting bad guys with guns. LaPierre asked, “Do you know where Chicago ranks in terms of enforcement of the federal gun laws? Out of 90 jurisdictions in the country, they ranked 90th.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the Rifles she had, and that he used, were not legal for her, or anyone, in Conn. She was outside the law, and wrong in so many ways.

Also Lanza wanted to buy a weapon but he was turned down because he did not want to go thru a background check. Very little on that was reported.

[brettmojo]

I see the President is continuing his douche baggery and using props to push more gun control

He gave another speech today.

More theatrics by that lowlife , cries for kids but Mr Nobel peace prize winner has kids vaporized via drones

That's really what happened in Newtown... All this Lanza mularky is just liberal media cover up.

[spoon]

Also Lanza wanted to buy a weapon but he was turned down because he did not want to go thru a background check. Very little on that was reported.

so little

preach on

this is the true issue at hand

[WRESTLINGFAN]

One of the issues


Let's all be afraid of black guns that look scary

[spoon]

One of the issues


Let's all be afraid of black guns that look scary

I'm sure that's the ONLY thing that scares you about them.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm sure that's the ONLY thing that scares you about them.



So you heard my squad had bright orange M-16A2's ???


Dope

[spoon]

So you heard my squad had bright orange M-16A2's ???


Dope

liar

I have a picture of you right here...

http://i56.tinypic.com/nzlzwh.jpg

[spoon]

good news though

AJ is planning on fitting your elite dip shit unit with these soon

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QdKC_glPjcQ/TzSIyLaJC1I/AAAAAAAADh4/7H7jM3tuKqQ/s1600/05-OMG-AR15-Unicorn.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

good news though

AJ is planning on fitting your elite dip shit unit with these soon

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QdKC_glPjcQ/TzSIyLaJC1I/AAAAAAAADh4/7H7jM3tuKqQ/s1600/05-OMG-AR15-Unicorn.jpg


Probably not.


DoD is taking a hit with the reduction in the rate of spending

[hanso]

so little

preach on

this is the true issue at hand

No. We get a TRAC study from forbes. I don't get this same lame view from the right there were stop gaps that worked. However more could have been done therefore lets do nothing.

And what kind of prosecution is handed out for failing a background check?

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XH1dVMtKTNI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/01/30/1515911/senator-catches-nra-head-in-epic-flip-flop/

[Syd]

ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAWS ALREADY!!!!!


http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2013/03/26/proof-the-obama-administration-is-going-after-the-good-guys-with-guns/


From the article


"The TRAC study also determined that the number of federal weapons prosecutions has fallen nearly every year in the U.S. from a high of 11,015 in 2004 to 7,774 in 2012. In fact, according to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service (NCJRS), in 2010 of the 6 million Americans who attempted to buy a gun, about 76,000 were denied. Of those, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) referred 4,732 cases for prosecution. Of these, 44 people were prosecuted and 13 were punished."

"Last Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, held up a print out of a study done by Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC), a data-gathering and research organization run by Syracuse University, that found that out of 90 federal jurisdictions, in 2012 Chicago ranked last for prosecuting bad guys with guns. LaPierre asked, “Do you know where Chicago ranks in terms of enforcement of the federal gun laws? Out of 90 jurisdictions in the country, they ranked 90th.


Just going out on a limb and guessing that it's cherry picked data because Chicago has more strict gun laws than the applicable federal laws

also, Chicago's murder rate is far lower than other cities but don't let non-cherry picked data get in the way

There are no "good guys" with guns, there are only paranoid people who think mop sinks are Muslim feet washing stations. They live in a fantasy world sold to them part and parcel by gun manufacturers via their friends at the NRA. The only thing methodical than their gun sales are their sales of fear. But, whatever, they're the stupid fucks that will end up committing suicide with their guns. Just hopefully they ain't aiming in my direction before they part their hair.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just going out on a limb and guessing that it's cherry picked data because Chicago has more strict gun laws than the applicable federal laws

also, Chicago's murder rate is far lower than other cities but don't let non-cherry picked data get in the way

There are no "good guys" with guns, there are only paranoid people who think mop sinks are Muslim feet washing stations. They live in a fantasy world sold to them part and parcel by gun manufacturers via their friends at the NRA. The only thing methodical than their gun sales are their sales of fear. But, whatever, they're the stupid fucks that will end up committing suicide with their guns. Just hopefully they ain't aiming in my direction before they part their hair.


Ever hear of armed robbery and other crimes ? Those happen also. How moral of you to judge legal firearms owners


If you feel it's more honorable to be a victim, it's your choice

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No. We get a TRAC study from forbes. I don't get this same lame view from the right there were stop gaps that worked. However more could have been done therefore lets do nothing.

And what kind of prosecution is handed out for failing a background check?

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XH1dVMtKTNI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/01/30/1515911/senator-catches-nra-head-in-epic-flip-flop/


The TRAC was from Syracuse university

In 1999 the federal government didn't have the expanded power it has now


Leahy has no credibility. The man should have his clearances revoked for leaking classified info

Of course Holder was lazy to prosecute these violations, he was busy suing states and having his thugs walk guns across the border

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Where were the background checks when the Feds walked guns across the border to the cartels

[A.J.]

Let's all be afraid of black guns that look scary

I'm more afraid of black guys that look scary.

[A.J.]

good news though

AJ is planning on fitting your elite dip shit unit with these soon

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QdKC_glPjcQ/TzSIyLaJC1I/AAAAAAAADh4/7H7jM3tuKqQ/s1600/05-OMG-AR15-Unicorn.jpg

Please. That's something the Army would make.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Please. That's something the Army would make.



True

Marines would never use those

[hanso]

Dana Loesch shouts at Piers Morgan: A spoon ‘can be qualified as an assault weapon!’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/29/dana-loesch-shouts-at-piers-morgan-a-spoon-can-be-qualified-as-an-assault-weapon/

[spoon]

Well if they mean me, they're fucking right.

[Jujubees2]

Free shotgun program divides residents of Tucson community (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/free-shotgun-program-divides-tucson-residents-article-1.1302351#ixzz2OxdAM8zS)

A domestic, and privately funded, Fast and Furious?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now that's putting community organizing to good use

[jennysmurf]

Dana Loesch shouts at Piers Morgan: A spoon ‘can be qualified as an assault weapon!’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/29/dana-loesch-shouts-at-piers-morgan-a-spoon-can-be-qualified-as-an-assault-weapon/

Well if they mean me, they're fucking right.

That's the first thing I thought when I read it too!:laugh:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From Newtown,


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/29/fire-destroys-newtown-home-of-shooting-survivors/2030411/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

if Barack had sons would they look like the suspects?


http://www.kcentv.com/story/21820374/suspects-in-shooting-death-of-georgia-baby-to-be-tried-as-adults

[deliciousV]

if Barack had sons would they look like the suspects?


http://www.kcentv.com/story/21820374/suspects-in-shooting-death-of-georgia-baby-to-be-tried-as-adults

why, do they all look alike to you?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

why, do they all look alike to you?


I guess you didn't hear when he injected himself in the Treyvon Martin shooting

[spoon]

I guess you didn't hear when he injected himself in the Treyvon Martin shooting

i guess you didn't hear yourself

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well if they mean me, they're fucking right.

Spoon assault weapon...Putting the moron in Oxymoron

[spoon]

you still suck

try harder

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Have the DoD get that spoon assault weapon for the 101st Keyboard

[spoon]

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff510/apemanwithferaldog/3q16wm.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Move over NY. CT is gonna out Cuomo you

Sequester? What sequester? Barack will be jet setting again. Tomorrow he flies to CO and Monday to my state.


I love how these news shows have Chiefs of police from big cities. They are nothing but quasi politicians.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/306023_447401562004897_659592091_n.jpg


Im sure some cops in this country would do that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How many times will Obama say this when he Jet sets to CO today?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-continued-use-of-the-claim-that-40-percent-of-gun-sales-lack-background-checks/2013/04/01/002e06ce-9b0f-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_blog.html



Why is he flying to CT this coming Monday? They are about to pass a draconian gun control law?

[spoon]

so you want him to not back policy he backs

got it

that sounds like a very logical thought process...like W not visiting the troops would be smart

just not back your own moves or intentions

jet set huh? so stupid

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so you want him to not back policy he backs

got it

that sounds like a very logical thought process...like W not visiting the troops would be smart

just not back your own moves or intentions

jet set huh? so stupid

Malloy is about to sign the bill here. Obama is still trying to cling onto Newtown.

Colorado already passed a bill.

He can't advocate his agenda from the rose garden or press room?


We keep hearing about kids being kicked off head start but lets fire up AF-1.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

PS


He's continuing to make false statements.


The WaPo isn't exactly breitbart or the weekly standard

[epo]

so you want him to not back policy he backs

got it

that sounds like a very logical thought process...like W not visiting the troops would be smart

just not back your own moves or intentions

jet set huh? so stupid

It must be hard for WF to put together logical thoughts while wearing white sheets.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It must be hard for WF to put together logical thoughts while wearing white sheets.



Back to the old tired lines of racism and white sheets. You're a bigger amateur than Spoon


Go back to devising a plan to recall your Governor Are you mad Obama didn't crack Hitler jokes when he was in Israel?

[A.J.]

I should move back to CT. Now that this new gun bill has been signed into law, there will never, ever again be another murder, shooting or robbery in CT!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I heard Bridgeport and Waterbury will be safer than Greenwich and Westport

[spoon]

Back to the old tired lines of racism and white sheets. You're a bigger amateur than Spoon


Go back to devising a plan to recall your Governor Are you mad Obama didn't crack Hitler jokes when he was in Israel?

probably bc you ARE an illogical hack racist

it's not tired when it's true, it's fact

[WRESTLINGFAN]

probably bc you ARE an illogical hack racist

it's not tired when it's true, it's fact

AMATEUR!!!!


Again slowspoon


I disagree with his white half too.


Like a fucking coward you don't even address the hatred towards Ben Carson.


Now I'm not saying he should be president as he's too religious for me however the silence is deafening about the calls of him as an Uncle Tom and Token Negro

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Great

Another gun grabbing hack who knows nothing about guns.
Not only are they wanna be authoritarians they're technical morons

Sure some 20 year old Corporal in Afghanistan needs to call the supply battalion in the rear for more mags

" banning high-capacity in ammunition magazines would be effective in reducing gun violence because "the bullets will have been shot and there won't be any more available."





http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_22942476/degette-draws-criticism-pretty-stupid-ammo-magazine-comment

[spoon]

AMATEUR!!!!


Again slowspoon


I disagree with his white half too.


Like a fucking coward you don't even address the hatred towards Ben Carson.


Now I'm not saying he should be president as he's too religious for me however the silence is deafening about the calls of him as an Uncle Tom and Token Negro

you are throwing BEN FUCKING CARSON randomly bc I'm a coward to discuss yet another fool

his words speak for themselves, as do your own

he's a foolish ass, I don't give two fucks about his race one way or the other

try it sometime

[spoon]

Great

Another gun grabbing hack who knows nothing about guns.
Not only are they wanna be authoritarians they're technical morons

Sure some 20 year old Corporal in Afghanistan needs to call the supply battalion in the rear for more mags

" banning high-capacity in ammunition magazines would be effective in reducing gun violence because "the bullets will have been shot and there won't be any more available."





http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_22942476/degette-draws-criticism-pretty-stupid-ammo-magazine-comment

we all know this just leads the wf's of the world to sex with animals

it was covered quite well last night on JS and Colbert

hilarious segments too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

we all know this just leads the wf's of the world to sex with animals

it was covered quite well last night on JS and Colbert

hilarious segments too

And you accuse me of going off topic?

That idiot doesn't know that mags can be reused . Like with most people who know nothing about weapons she made an stupid assumption


So if a mass shooting involves a Beretta , the know nothing's will want to ban pistols

[spoon]

And you accuse me of going off topic?

That idiot doesn't know that mags can be reused . Like with most people who know nothing about weapons she made an stupid assumption


So if a mass shooting involves a Beretta , the know nothing's will want to ban pistols

not off topic twit

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A 2 bit state politician doesn't know that magazines can be used over and over yet she is to be trusted on Gun laws ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm going to have to register my weapons or else I would be considered a criminal

However I can say I'm in MS-13 and I can go to UConn with reduced tuition

[spoon]

go for it!

sounds like you have a fun packed weekend ahead of you

[deliciousV]

I'm going to have to register my weapons or else I would be considered a criminal

However I can say I'm in MS-13 and I can go to UConn with reduced tuition

Just remember the first Red Dawn while you're registering, the Russians first stop was to get the gun registry so they's know who to get first.

[spoon]

Just remember the first Red Dawn while you're registering, the Russians first stop was to get the gun registry so they's know who to get first.

why yes, that will SURELY be the play when the russians come for us

WFerines!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Preibus and GOP leadership are a bunch of inept idiots

They can take the gun control debate turn it against Obama and the gun control fanatics and use it against them

Instead of hiding like scared little girls they should bring up the fact that the justice dept along with US attorney's in big cities aren't prosecuting people who violated federal gun laws

Hey Reince focus on personhood for fertilized eggs and mentioning bestiality.


Those fuckers deserve to get their heads handed to them

[deliciousV]

why yes, that will SURELY be the play when the russians come for us

WFerines!

he just moved on.... It's like he has A.D.D. to go along with all his other disorders.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ha!!!!


The Russkis? How about the Russian mobsters selling weapons to criminals who say fuck you to these politicians who hi 5 each other while they think they are saving us

Those MS 13 Gang members are really going to be concerned that Malloy signed an even more draconian bill

[A.J.]

I'm going to have to register my weapons or else I would be considered a criminal

However I can say I'm in MS-13 and I can go to UConn with reduced tuition

Or, if you can play basketball.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Waterbury is going to be as safe as New Canaan


Thanks Gov Malloy

[spoon]

you are welcome!

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-VX830_0109ma_E_20130109145308.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you are welcome!

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-VX830_0109ma_E_20130109145308.jpg

Is that an example of States rights you like? All hail the 10th


As much as I think Stephen Colberts long lost brother is a scumbag for signing that law. CT has the right to have lowlife politicians sign laws they don't understand.


As long as it doesn't affect the entire nation.


Isn't it amazing that our leaders get hardon's for Arab civilians with AK-47's who want to overthrow their governments but an American who's only offense is a speeding ticket can't be trusted with a Bushmaster?

[spoon]

Is that an example of States rights you like? All hail the 10th


As much as I think Stephen Colberts long lost brother is a scumbag for signing that law. CT has the right to have lowlife politicians sign laws they don't understand.


As long as it doesn't affect the entire nation.


Isn't it amazing that our leaders get hardon's for Arab civilians with AK-47's who want to overthrow their governments but an American who's only offense is a speeding ticket can't be trusted with a Bushmaster?

it's my answer to your idiocy

enjoy it

laws they don't understand too? i assume you think every law passed by congress is lead by whatever area of interest/policy is at hand right!? this is their job, on the state or national level...doesn't matter. so I guess now any policy on health care should exclude anyone with no MD after their name from a past life...any criminal justice policy to only include people of law enforcement/legal background. they do their research and usually try to speak for their constituents...so there's that too. some are better educated and researched then others, just as some have more ties to said issues in their past lives and usually sit on committees/panels to help. guns do have an effect on those NOT involved with them personally too, so there's a little more to inject in your simplistic feeble world view.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

it's my answer to your idiocy

enjoy it

laws they don't understand too? i assume you think every law passed by congress is lead by whatever area of interest/policy is at hand right!? this is their job, on the state or national level...doesn't matter. so I guess now any policy on health care should exclude anyone with no MD after their name from a past life...any criminal justice policy to only include people of law enforcement/legal background. they do their research and usually try to speak for their constituents...so there's that too. some are better educated and researched then others, just as some have more ties to said issues in their past lives and usually sit on committees/panels to help. guns do have an effect on those NOT involved with them personally too, so there's a little more to inject in your simplistic feeble world view.

There's no mention of healthcare in the constitution. That's a state matter. Technically the law should be shitcanned because since its a tax. It was not originated in the house of reps. But fuck procedures right? Oh yes thats right It didn't go far enough. Single payer or at least a PO was what some on this board wanted. Notice anyone with a last name of Obama wont have to suffer under Obamacare?

Furthermore the bill of rights does not apply to the states. No thanks to SCOTUS they believed in incorporation.

Nice example of bringing up that example of someone needing to be an expert on guns. That 2 bit CO politician thought you had to toss mags away after using all your rounds. How fucking idiotic is that? She's to be trusted with gun laws?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh the Irony



http://www.inquisitr.com/593848/mayor-against-illegal-guns-arrested-in-gun-related-incident-video/#jAmGSUYid84XBAKL.99

[spoon]

Which? The fact he's gay or using guns? Not surprised at all. 800 mayors of small towns means a whole lot of local assholes no matter how much u try to keep it on the up and up. Too bad the biggest city mayor is lying ass himself too.

[hanso]

Connecticut governor: LaPierre and NRA are ‘clowns at the circus’

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sadly LaPierre is no different. He calls for an armed guard in every school. He falls for the trap that every school district is the same and a top down approach is needed universally . How about letting each district assess their own security needs instead of issuing a blanket policy to everything,

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I hope Malloy sets the example and has his security detail have only 10 rounds

[deliciousV]

And a child shall lead them?

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can't wait for tomorrow so that Barack can showboat in Newtown and call for more gun control laws when Malloy already signed a more strict law last week.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575900_10151455422967740_787883560_n.jpg

[brettmojo]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575900_10151455422967740_787883560_n.jpg

that would be a thing. because the kind of person who would use something like that would equate civil rights to the rights of someone to be able to wage a small war if they wanted to.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

that would be a thing. because the kind of person who would use something like that would equate civil rights to the rights of someone to be able to wage a small war if they wanted to.

Responsible gun owners aren't the ones waging war on anyone.


Nancy Lanza was not a responsible owner.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Schumer was spreading false information today when he said that you can buy a gun online without a background check.


He doesn't tell the whole story that you can not buy one from a licensed dealer without one. Same for gun shows.


This is how scammers like Chucky get their message across. It gets repeated on the news. People hear half truths like that and think buying a gun is like ordering those shoes they want from Kenneth Cole.

[deliciousV]

that would be a thing. because the kind of person who would use something like that would equate civil rights to the rights of someone to be able to wage a small war if they wanted to.

District of Columbia v. Heller says you're wrong.

But hey, let's try infringing on some other rights, how about the search and seizure laws? Maybe we could start letting the police in gang ran inner cities start profiling and stopping and searching people without cause? Try to get those illegal guns, huh? That'd work too wouldn't it?

[Syd]

Start letting?

Already happening, bub. Gun owners don't really care about tyranny unless it affects fat white suburbans, in which case they're up in arms. But not really because none of them are interested in defending tyranny so much as emulating masculinity.

[deliciousV]

Start letting?

Already happening, bub. Gun owners don't really care about tyranny unless it affects fat white suburbans, in which case they're up in arms. But not really because none of them are interested in defending tyranny so much as emulating masculinity.

I'm sorry to have offended you, but who is doing the vast majority of the killing? Is it registered gun owners, or people roaming the streets in the inner cities? Get a clue. And stop pretending that taking guns from the legal gun owners will help, even the Department of Justice doesn't agree
http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/department-of-justice-report-finds-gun-control-proposals-ineffective/

I'm not advocating illegal search and seizure any more than I'm for taking guns away from law abiding citizens. I'm for leaving the constitution alone and finding a better way. The stripping of one right is no more right than the other.

[hanso]

Gun owners make up part of the 90 + % that favor better background checks. Doesn't mean it will come to anything over the fat NRA checks doled out to politicians.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like another campaign stop for Obama as he drones on about more gun control

I wonder if he's gonna whore himself out later in Greenwich for some cash like he did last week after the Denver stop

[spoon]

everyone is wondering!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well he won't be playing golf on the beautiful manicured courses in Greenwich. Too late in the day


Listening to that clod while on the elliptical. He claims he got stacks of letters from gun owners supporting more laws. More theatrics and fluff


Also it sounds like a campaign event with shouts of we love you Mr President. He loves it because it boosts his ego.


Fuck him and his grandstanding. He's using those poor families because they are weak and vulnerable just like Mark Kelly is doing to Gabby Giffords

[spoon]

yes, so weak

they should get more guns

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They won't be able to in CT

[Jujubees2]

Two 4-year-olds, two guns, two tragic shootings (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/09/17671333-two-4-year-olds-two-guns-two-tragic-shootings?lite)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Multiple stabbings at a community college in Texas


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/lone-star-stabbing-184840929.html

[A.J.]

We need tougher knife control laws!

[Syd]

if only people had texas in guns this disaster could have been averted

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Maybe it was a gun free zone

[spoon]

Maybe it was a gun free zone

but a cutlery FUN ZONE!

cutco day at the local community college!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Toomey and Manchin have some sort of deal for background checks. Details are supposed to be given later

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Palin is an idiot but how the fuck does Biden still get away with saying such stupid comments?

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[Syd]

because it's absolutely right and why AR15s are terrible weapons for self-defense in a home because of overpenetration and poor handling

they're the guns for guys that feel emasculated, not guns for defending homes

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another resident expert who knows nothing about firearms



Slug rounds can go thru a wall. If someone's a bad shot and misses the perp, that round can end up in Juniors bedroom

[spoon]

no dif at all

i use these to protect my home...good news is they penetrate walls just like slugs so of course it's the same risk

and it has wheels so it easy to handle...get one Syd!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/M-71-cannon-deployed.JPG

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no dif at all

i use these to protect my home...good news is they penetrate walls just like slugs so of course it's the same risk

and it has wheels so it easy to handle...get one Syd!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/M-71-cannon-deployed.JPG

You still need a 5 ton to haul that thing. Get a self propelled howitzer

[Syd]

no dif at all

i use these to protect my home...good news is they penetrate walls just like slugs so of course it's the same risk

and it has wheels so it easy to handle...get one Syd!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/M-71-cannon-deployed.JPG

Howitzers make ideal home defense weapons. As I have now heard the argument that limiting magazines to 10 rounds or less can make it more difficult to defend yourself against multiple invaders, I think Americans should be allowed at least crew served artillery. I mean, what if Putin invades your house? You have 100,000 Russians on your doorstep and only an AR-15 with 10 rounds to defend yourself.

Personally I'd lean toward the G6:

http://i.imgur.com/ht1x8cZ.jpg

With the ability to strike targets with multiple rounds simultaneously at a range of around 20 miles, this will allow most Americans to defend their places of business as well. Plus, it has an overall range of 40 miles; Great for defending grandma's house too!!

[A.J.]

Personally I'd lean toward the G6

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'd rather have a G-5


http://pics.celebritycarsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/G5-Jet.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama exploiting the families again.


A mother of a Newtown victim will be delivering the Presidential weekly address. She deserves no blowback or criticism, she lost a child, however the grandstanding by this president and him using these families is disgusting. There was a father of a child who was killed who is against more gun control but he wasn't allowed on AF-1 to fly to DC


This president would dig up those corpses and use them as props if he could.

[A.J.]

The Newtown families are starting to piss me off the way the 9/11 families did. Quit milking it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

His opinions don't count according to this president


http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/54365

[Syd]

well he does have terrible opinions

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Does he?

[spoon]

Obama exploiting the families again.


A mother of a Newtown victim will be delivering the Presidential weekly address. She deserves no blowback or criticism, she lost a child, however the grandstanding by this president and him using these families is disgusting. There was a father of a child who was killed who is against more gun control but he wasn't allowed on AF-1 to fly to DC


This president would dig up those corpses and use them as props if he could.

The Newtown families are starting to piss me off the way the 9/11 families did. Quit milking it.

wow

[spoon]

His opinions don't count according to this president


http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/54365

so Obama said this?

or does he simply disagree

but I guess you have to lose kids by gunfire to have an opinion too? of which the VAST majority are not in line with poor guy who suffered terribly

in fact, most of the country disagrees with him....and how odd that this guy ended up on Fox

so weird

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so Obama said this?

or does he simply disagree

but I guess you have to lose kids by gunfire to have an opinion too? of which the VAST majority are not in line with poor guy who suffered terribly

in fact, most of the country disagrees with him....and how odd that this guy ended up on Fox

so weird

Why wasn't he allowed to go to DC?


He disagrees with this presidents agenda.

[spoon]

Why wasn't he allowed to go to DC?


He disagrees with this presidents agenda.

why would he or should he have to take him to DC?!

as you said, he disagrees and only a fool brings the guy along to go against the point and case the vast majority involved want done

are you so vapid to not understand Obama doesn't think his opinions don't count, just they aren't what the vast majority of his constituents want and clearly the vast majority of these poor souls linked to tragedy. you'll never get 100% agreement on ANYTHING, but I guess this means he's telling the guy to go screw? :wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

why would he or should he have to take him to DC?!

as you said, he disagrees and only a fool brings the guy along to go against the point and case the vast majority involved want done

are you so vapid to not understand Obama doesn't think his opinions don't count, just they aren't what the vast majority of his constituents want and clearly the vast majority of these poor souls linked to tragedy. you'll never get 100% agreement on ANYTHING, but I guess this means he's telling the guy to go screw? :wallbash:

Because not everyone believes that there should be more gun control.

There are already background checks. I keep hearing that Al Qaeda can get an AR-15.

If so they would not go to a gun store, they are going to get weapons on the black market.

[spoon]

great, some people still think a big part of our population shouldn't be free

others think some shouldn't vote too

that doesn't make their ideas right or the overwhelming will of the people

it's another opinion

and just bc some things are on the black market as you call it, that doesn't mean we should just ignore issues and ways to help them...should we just give opioids over the counter and allow it bc they are sold illegally? come on man

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Buying a gun at a dealer or at a show from a dealer doesn't mean you leave with it in a box with a bow

Furthermore these politicians and many in the media are still making false claims that 40% of sales are done w/o a check

The WaPo called them out on that claim

[Syd]

There's no way to verify or dismiss that claim because private sales are unregulated.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That 40% number was from a survey going back to 1996 asked to about 250 people.


That claim from the politicians is invalid on it's merits.

[hanso]

That 40% number was from a survey going back to 1996 asked to about 250 people.


That claim from the politicians is invalid on it's merits.

Ok show use from the other side then, proof that any records are kept at all. The ATF has hands tied even checking anything from gun stores. All they can do is suggest records are kept.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ok show use from the other side then, proof that any records are kept at all. The ATF has hands tied even checking anything from gun stores. All they can do is suggest records are kept.

In states like there is a limited registry.


ATF has no moral authority in regards weapons purchases since they were involved in running guns to the cartels.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I cant believe the low rent president actually went ahead with this and once again take advantage of victims parents.


Well that's his MO. Exploit people for his political grandstanding.


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[Syd]

you know, perhaps they want their opinion heard after their kids were brutally murdered -- many of which required closed-casket funerals due to the trauma

but hey, obama

[spoon]

you know, perhaps they want their opinion heard after their kids were brutally murdered -- many of which required closed-casket funerals due to the trauma

but hey, obama

no no, let WF reply to his own idiotic comments in one post



I can't believe....

Well that's his MO....

Hilarious stuff you just can't make up.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So they have been silenced for 4 months?


Yesterday was the 1st time one of the victims parents spoke out?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no no, let WF reply to his own idiotic comments in one post





Hilarious stuff you just can't make up.

So nothing has happened since. It's not like Cuomo and Malloy didn't sign more restrictive bills recently

[hanso]

In states like there is a limited registry.


ATF has no moral authority in regards weapons purchases since they were involved in running guns to the cartels.

This goes back many years before..and would explain why they did it in that fashion if there was any once of truth to the story

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ever think they keep repeating that 40% fabrication is because they can manipulate the low info voters?


The gun running went back to Dubya, but it went out of control under Obama

[spoon]

People aren't with u, so they are low info voters...got it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Over 100 million voted for either Mitt or Barack

[spoon]

Ha! Perfect!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/561777_493015904085913_382637638_n.jpg

[hanso]

Ever think they keep repeating that 40% fabrication is because they can manipulate the low info voters?


The gun running went back to Dubya, but it went out of control under Obama

No I gather it was from a poll. I ment the checking anything from gun stores part goes back.

The whole gun running thing flies as a fallacy. Just think about all the logistics involved. As if the first thing drug gangs wouldn't do is file off serial numbers, let alone how the guns would be confiscated.

Let me ask this. If gun stores have it laxed do really think gun shows have it tight?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No I gather it was from a poll. I ment the checking anything from gun stores part goes back.

The whole gun running thing flies as a fallacy. Just think about all the logistics involved. As if the first thing drug gangs wouldn't do is file off serial numbers, let alone how the guns would be confiscated.

Let me ask this. If gun stores have it laxed do really think gun shows have it tight?

It was from a poll from 1996 and with shoddy metrics


When the gun running started as Wide Receiver there were RFID chips to track them.

I'm sure the gun shows follow the same protocol. They are basically a whole bunch of stores in 1 location.

What we need to focus on now is registries. The law that Malloy signed here in CT includes that mandate.


Already one company is going Galt. PTR Industries is planning to leave CT

[hanso]

Gun shows are not same.. people wouldnt have shot them selfs going to them on that big hoopla day that was set up



'Someone died from a “self-inflicted” injury, after an argument, at the NRA 500, in Fort Worth, Texas'

[Syd]

"Already one company is going Galt. PTR Industries is planning to leave CT"

That's not going Galt, that's just leaving because the assumed PR boost outweighs the cost of relocation.

Going Galt would be leaving for Somalia or another similarly stateless area (and then failing because being pudgy, quoting what you think the Constitution says and having a goatee aren't an adequate basis for creating an environment for businesses.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They are going to a better business climate. Why didn't Malloy have the electorate put it on a ballot resolution in regards to weapons?

Think PTI would do any business when most Somalis don't have a pot to piss in?

[spoon]

It was from a poll from 1996 and with shoddy metrics


When the gun running started as Wide Receiver there were RFID chips to track them.

I'm sure the gun shows follow the same protocol. They are basically a whole bunch of stores in 1 location.

What we need to focus on now is registries. The law that Malloy signed here in CT includes that mandate.


Already one company is going Galt. PTR Industries is planning to leave CT

going galt!?

you're a FUCKING idiot and so are they

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow the turnip truck has flipped over.


How dare they go to a better business climate. Then it's expected your lack of rational thought shines thru

[Bob Impact]

Wow the turnip truck has flipped over.


How dare they go to a better business climate. Then it's expected your lack of rational thought shines thru

Going Galt is a reference to the strike, the refusal to do business with anyone from the outside. Going Galt would be going to be fucking INDEPENDENT, not to "get a more favorable business climate" but to operate completely off the fucking grid.

It's a stupid fucking phrase repeated by fucking Ayn Rand fan fiction authors and it's disgusting from both ends. Even you are above that phrase. Stop it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

While they will stay in business they are moving, thus denying CT more tax revenue.


Good for them

[Syd]

And there may be people who will move there specifically because of gun laws.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

WaPo gives John Kerry 3 pinocchios for saying that students are afraid to come to the US because of our gun laws

He said this in Japan. The amount of Japanese students coming here have been declining for years and it's due to an aging population

Overall student visas are up since 2010

[A.J.]

The Saudis still want to come here to study.

Oh right -- that's because they want to blow us up.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They arrested a woman in connection with that shooting of the DA and his wife

All we heard was that it was either neo nazis or Mexican drug cartels, some speculated that those groups were acting together

[hanso]

They arrested a woman in connection with that shooting of the DA and his wife

All we heard was that it was either neo nazis or Mexican drug cartels, some speculated that those groups were acting together

I saw the lawyer for the group on TV he even expressed doubt of innocence.

[brettmojo]

They arrested a woman in connection with that shooting of the DA and his wife

All we heard was that it was either neo nazis or Mexican drug cartels, some speculated that those groups were acting together

I love how HLN they were calling it a "Law And Order" twist... :lol:

[Recyclerz]

Background Checks Bill Shot Dead in the Senate (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/17/us-usa-guns-idUSBRE93F00D20130417)

It's Official. We loves our guns more than anything else in this country.

[spoon]

Background Checks Bill Shot Dead in the Senate (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/17/us-usa-guns-idUSBRE93F00D20130417)

It's Official. We loves our guns more than anything else in this country.

oof

we can all agree no politician cares about much outside of elections

for THIS bill to fail, in the SENATE...pathetic

[WRESTLINGFAN]

His outbursts and once again using those families as political pawns is beneath the office of the presidency

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wouldn't be surprised if he signs an executive order because he's a petulant child who sounds like he didnt get his way

[spoon]

His outbursts and once again using those families as political pawns is beneath the office of the presidency

again

disagree

he can voice his displeasure plenty and I respect it in either direction

at least you know where he stands

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wish Obama would show the same anger when the monthly UE and quarterly GDP numbers come in

[spoon]

Wouldn't be surprised if he signs an executive order because he's a petulant child who sounds like he didnt get his way

that or bc he can and many who voted against this have pretty much shown they only voted so bc of their upcoming election (pathetic still)

oh and the fact that this bill and checks are very much what the public wants, not against

even sane gun owners and companies

[spoon]

I wish Obama would show the same anger when the monthly UE and quarterly GDP numbers come in

you're such a clown

typecast is putting it lightly

your hard on for the guy is legendary

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama was the clown today. He's gotta showboat even when he doesn't get his way

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Did the little child do a couple of lines before his meltdown in the rose garden?

[spoon]

you tell me model of maturity

[spoon]

Obama was the clown today. He's gotta showboat even when he doesn't get his way

Did the little child do a couple of lines before his meltdown in the rose garden?

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac49/gottalovesheryl/gifs/tumblr_m2wt7qkvgx1qh1i38.gif

[Bob Impact]

again

disagree

he can voice his displeasure plenty and I respect it in either direction

at least you know where he stands

I don't mind that he's unhappy, or expressing it, but it truly is disgraceful the way he puts those families on display, it's just so gross.

[spoon]

they are more upset than even the president

they were there bc they wanted to be and believed in trying to help the bill

[Bob Impact]

they are more upset than even the president

they were there bc they wanted to be and believed in trying to help the bill

I don't doubt it and I support their right to feel that way and certainly would (and largely do) feel exactly the same way, that doesn't make it any less gross of a political ploy on Obama's part.

[spoon]

people/families hit by tragedies like these usually get very involved, clearly at times to a fault, but often good comes from it like John Walsh and the Brady Bill which could be soooo much more.

[spoon]

too bad this time they were up against a TON of money and ill gotten bullshit influence

checks = no good...REALLY?!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrhro9mzrT1qakb4q.gif

[brettmojo]

I don't doubt it and I support their right to feel that way and certainly would (and largely do) feel exactly the same way, that doesn't make it any less gross of a political ploy on Obama's part.

What do you want the families to do?

The NRA isn't staying home.

The NRA is on tv, is in the offices of these politicians, is running campaigns of false information to scare every gun owner into thinking Obama is coming for their guns. People actually fucking think that... That Obama will come to their door and take their fucking guns away. What would you have these families do? Stay home and have faith that these sniveling soulless politicians do their jobs?

These families have had their lives destroyed but they're just supposed to be quiet and stay home because it isn't fair of them to actually do what we're supposed to be able to do as Americans and petition their representatives for change? To do this in the public eye? Why? Because it shows just what soulless fucking garbage the NRA and the people that associate themselves it are? Clinging to a 200 year old amendment to our constitution that, in it's loosest interpretation, lets every citizen have the right to a gun back when guns were six feet long and took two minutes to load a single shot. Crying fucking Nazism and tyranny because of fucking background checks? Background checks that at the very worst would only punish criminals and wouldn't mean one bit of difference to law abiding citizens in owning a weapon... That's a threat to your freedoms?

Maybe these families thought they could perhaps try and bring something to Washington and into the public eye that is sorely lacking... Perspective. Perspective that maybe just maybe making it a little harder for people who shouldn't be able to get guns to actually get them would be a good thing. This was more than a compromise... This bill that got voted down was a compromise of a compromise and even that couldn't make it through the NRA's/GOP's/redneck fucking force field of bullshit. Nothing in this bill would even have prevented the Sandy Hook tragedy but it would have helped others. It was a start. Change has to start somewhere but oh fucking no not from our cold dead fucking hands.

But no... That's not the tragedy here. The tragedy is that fucking Obama put those families on display like props right? That politicians actually had to look these people in the face and spit in them. How dare those fucking assholes come to Washington and make a big deal out of their children being violently murdered in their classrooms. Fuck them for thinking they lived in a country where they should be able to drop their children off at school and not expect them to be shot to death before they pick them up at the end of the day or that their elected officials actually represented their best interests. What fucking country do they think they live in?

[brettmojo]

Giffords nails it. (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/opinion/a-senate-in-the-gun-lobbys-grip.html?_r=0)

[spoon]

As you did in the previous post.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

With all of Bloombergs money he can't buy his way to passing laws all the time. None of those propositions would have prevented another school shooting. It was more feel good legislation just to get something passed.

This president saw an opportunity to prey on and lure families who are still grieving and saw that opportunity to use them as pawns for his advantage. His actions were disgusting. Criminals and terrorists are not going to go to a gun store. They don't give a shit about background checks. They are going to get weapons any way they can.


I'm sick of hearing about a 200 year old amendment. What other provisions of the bill of rights should be criticized? Damn that freedom of religion and freedom from religion.


I am not surprised that Obama had a meltdown.

[pennington]

With all of Bloombergs money he can't buy his way to passing laws all the time.

If Bloomberg could somehow tie gun control to overturning term limits, he would find a way to get it passed.


I am not surprised that Obama had a meltdown.

He'll be golfing angry today. I feel sorry for his putter.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If Bloomberg could somehow tie gun control to overturning term limits, he would find a way to get it passed.




He'll be golfing angry today. I feel sorry for his putter.


Any parties scheduled for tonight? He can drown his sorrows in expensive champagne

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/48007_10152778723575515_206553013_n.jpg

[spoon]

Ah, 5+ hot button gop flamer topics in one! Wf the non-gop lemming!

Ha!

[Syd]

I'm sick of hearing about a 200 year old amendment. What other provisions of the bill of rights should be criticized? Damn that freedom of religion and freedom from religion.

2nd amendment is a relic from when the anti-federalists didn't want a standing army, because standing armies had traditionally been the tool of monarchies to keep conservatives in power. After the failure of militias to defend the borders of America along with the XYZ affair (and, realistically, the War of 1812) everyone realized a bunch of ill-equipped, under-trained, undisciplined partisans weren't an effective means of defending a nation. Then compare that against the success of the Legion of the US and you see why everyone was like "Welp, militias are stupid"

on top of that, think about what happened when citizens did rise up against states -- the Whiskey and Shays' rebellion. With SHays, they were put down by private paramilitaries and with the Whiskey, they were put down by other militias. Either way, the end result was the expansion of the power of the federal government.

With Shays, that was when ol' hypocrite Jefferson had his tree of life quote -- which he promptly reversed after he saw what happened with the French Revolution (along with other reversals on a national bank, other constitutional matters and having noted (war) criminal Aaron Burr at his side)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So I guess the 1st amendment is outdated because Zenger used newspapers. There were no TV's or Radios or the Internet.

The constitution says nothing about having a permanent standing army. The only branch that is authorized to be permanent is the navy per article I section VIII

The 2nd amendment along with the rest of the bill of rights are not supposed to be applied to the states.

[hanso]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/48007_10152778723575515_206553013_n.jpg

There is no federal-government gun-ownership registry now, and there would not have been one under the Senate bill that failed.

[spoon]

So I guess the 1st amendment is outdated because Zenger used newspapers. There were no TV's or Radios or the Internet.



so stupid and I hope even you realize it

[Jujubees2]

Louisiana Judge Rules To Allow Violent Felons To Have Guns (www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/18/louisiana-judge-rules-to-allow-violent-felons-to-have-guns/)

The Onion’s Tips For Passing Gun Control Legislation (http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-onions-tips-for-passing-gun-control-legislatio,32103/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default)

[deliciousV]

2nd amendment is a relic from when the anti-federalists didn't want a standing army, because standing armies had traditionally been the tool of monarchies to keep conservatives in power. After the failure of militias to defend the borders of America along with the XYZ affair (and, realistically, the War of 1812) everyone realized a bunch of ill-equipped, under-trained, undisciplined partisans weren't an effective means of defending a nation. Then compare that against the success of the Legion of the US and you see why everyone was like "Welp, militias are stupid"

on top of that, think about what happened when citizens did rise up against states -- the Whiskey and Shays' rebellion. With SHays, they were put down by private paramilitaries and with the Whiskey, they were put down by other militias. Either way, the end result was the expansion of the power of the federal government.

With Shays, that was when ol' hypocrite Jefferson had his tree of life quote -- which he promptly reversed after he saw what happened with the French Revolution (along with other reversals on a national bank, other constitutional matters and having noted (war) criminal Aaron Burr at his side)

obviously an opinion that many share with you. But thus far the Supreme Court has always ruled that the second amendment exists outside of the need for a militia, and if you read the writings of other founding fathers you'll see that they held the opinion that the ability to protect one's self was a birthright.
I think the mistake the President made, even after the compromise was made was continuing to use those poor parents, when there was nothing in any part of this bill that would have helped in their circumstance. That bit of harsh truth traveled the nation via Facebook and Twitter continuously since he introduced this bill, and IMO he lost some support because of it. It just made it seem as if he had an agenda and was riding this tragedy to achieve it. (I had no problem with the final version of the bill)

[spoon]

the final version of this bill was too weak and had soooo many bs adds for those in fear of the NRA and their respective upcoming votes


and sorry, this wasn't even an active line of policy UNTIL the last two terrible tragedies...so I don't see this as exploitation if you actually pay attention, it's their right and hope for SOME reform and change despite its impact on their plight long past helping at this point. so who cares its exact impact on THIS case in the past versus helping lead us in the right direction and possibly helping in some way in the future. I guess NRA leads also changed their tunes bc they had no issue with background checks in the past. More bullshit slippery slope jargon all over the place, despite the no registry clause in the very bill itself and more, very stupid comments/provisions. This issue is being argued so far right it's quite pathetic on everyone in the end.

[deliciousV]

the final version of this bill was too weak and had soooo many bs adds for those in fear of the NRA and their respective upcoming votes


and sorry, this wasn't even an active line of policy UNTIL the last two terrible tragedies...so I don't see this as exploitation if you actually pay attention, it's their right and hope for SOME reform and change despite its impact on their plight long past helping at this point. so who cares its exact impact on THIS case in the past versus helping lead us in the right direction and possibly helping in some way in the future. I guess NRA leads also changed their tunes bc they had no issue with background checks in the past. More bullshit slippery slope jargon all over the place, despite the no registry clause in the very bill itself and more, very stupid comments/provisions. This issue is being argued so far right it's quite pathetic on everyone in the end.

whether it was an "active line" at the time, I believe it was something Obama was planning for the next 4 years, this just seemed to be a good time for it based on public outcry at the time, that's just my opinion, I don't claim to have any proof. And I don't deny these poor parents their right to try and effect policy after all they've been thru, but I do see a little exploitation on Obama's part, both sides do it when opportunity arises.
There's also the justice departments findings, as they relate to the original bill, they were pretty clear that this bill would have little to no effect because it didn't address the real problem, people with illegal guns, and stolen guns. I think that hurt the bill.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If the bill would have passed all we would hear is that it didn't go far enough, it's too watered down just like with Obamacare, many raised a shitstorm because it wasn't single payer

[spoon]

Both are lesser versions bc the debates are dominated by special interest and far right ideology. It would be too light if passed, as was hc reform as a single payer option would be great.

Yet u have to start somewhere and head in the right direction, not into a wall or worse.

[deliciousV]

Both are lesser versions bc the debates are dominated by special interest and far right ideology. It would be too light if passed, as was hc reform as a single payer option would be great.

Yet u have to start somewhere and head in the right direction, not into a wall or worse.

fair enough, let's just say we disagree on where to start, and who's rights to infringe on. And I do agree that the NRA heavily influenced this whole thing, but the victims of gun crimes who went door to door in the senate were trying to do the same thing. Both were exercising their rights as they stand today, and again, both sides bow to special interest groups and powerful lobbies. That needs fixed too.

[Syd]

obviously an opinion that many share with you. But thus far the Supreme Court has always ruled that the second amendment exists outside of the need for a militia, and if you read the writings of other founding fathers you'll see that they held the opinion that the ability to protect one's self was a birthright.
I think the mistake the President made, even after the compromise was made was continuing to use those poor parents, when there was nothing in any part of this bill that would have helped in their circumstance. That bit of harsh truth traveled the nation via Facebook and Twitter continuously since he introduced this bill, and IMO he lost some support because of it. It just made it seem as if he had an agenda and was riding this tragedy to achieve it. (I had no problem with the final version of the bill)

Writings are one things, doings are another. Look at all that Thomas Jefferson wrote versus what he did as president.

Besides, if the Founding Fathers had things right then the Constitution wouldn't be so incredibly flawed.

[styckx]

Nevermind

[hanso]

Both are lesser versions bc the debates are dominated by special interest and far right ideology. It would be too light if passed, as was hc reform as a single payer option would be great.

Yet u have to start somewhere and head in the right direction, not into a wall or worse.

According to the other side nothing works, so why try

[deliciousV]

According to the other side nothing works, so why try

I disagree, the other side has made suggestions about cutting down on gun crimes, they just don't involve having they're rights trampled on.
Maybe we should do away with the laws against illegal search and seizure, start frisking people in high crime areas? I'll bet you would get lot's of illegal guns off the street. And that would do way more good than putting more restrictions on people who already follow the rules, and are not the problem.

[Jujubees2]

I disagree, the other side has made suggestions about cutting down on gun crimes, they just don't involve having they're rights trampled on.
Maybe we should do away with the laws against illegal search and seizure, start frisking people in high crime areas? I'll bet you would get lot's of illegal guns off the street. And that would do way more good than putting more restrictions on people who already follow the rules, and are not the problem.

Already happening in NYC.

So you have no problem with giving up your right to illegal search and seizure?