New York Mets 2007 Season Thread

[BoondockSaint]

Great pitching matchup tonight, Maine vs. Zambrano, so I think the Mets win 12-11.

[MHasegawa]

yo, check out the ad on the backstop. its that puerto rican dude with the hole in his throat.

thats the last thing you should see during a baseball game.

[BoondockSaint]

Nice job Schowendick.

[Marc with a c]

cubs are knocking the ball all over the park tonight

[BoondockSaint]

When the Mets shit the bed they really shit the bed.

[Kevin]

cubs are knocking the ball all over the park tonight

When the Mets shit the bed they really shit the bed.

So, are the Mets winning or losing??

[Marc with a c]

So, are the Mets winning or losing??

are you talking about the national league east?

if so, they are winning.

[cougarjake13]

So, are the Mets winning or losing??


American League East Division
Team W L Pct GB
Red Sox 26 11 .703 -
Yankees 17 19 .472 8 ½

[cougarjake13]

Great pitching matchup tonight, Maine vs. Zambrano, so I think the Mets win 12-11.

well it looks like you were almost right on how many the cubs were gonna get

[Bossanova]

Team W L Pct GB
Red Sox 26 11 .703 -
Yankees 17 19 .472 8 ½[/QUOTE]

:drunk:

[Kevin]

Team W L Pct GB
Red Sox 26 11 .703 -
Yankees 17 19 .472 8 ½

:drunk:[/QUOTE]

Wake me up at the end of sept when we win the AL east again.. THE REAL EAST

[midwestjeff]

sorry you guys had to be there when Zambrano turned it on. now that he's back expect Marquis and Lilly to fall off. especially Marquis.

[cougarjake13]

:drunk:

Wake me up at the end of sept when we win the AL east again.. THE REAL EAST[/QUOTE]

you'll be lucky to win the wild card

[Bossanova]

Keith Hernandez is right. Franco's bat is so slow. How much longer do we keep him active just because he wants to play till he is fifty, and the guys like him?

[cougarjake13]

Keith Hernandez is right. Franco's bat is so slow. How much longer do we keep him active just because he wants to play till he is fifty, and the guys like him?

he's like a player/ coach

and he doesnt get that much action and really doesnt hurt us

[Bossanova]

he's like a player/ coach

and he doesnt get that much action and really doesnt hurt us

True, but he is wasting a bench spot

[cougarjake13]

True, but he is wasting a bench spot

and who would be in his place ???

ben johnson ???

anderson hernandez ???

[Bossanova]

and who would be in his place ???

ben johnson ???

anderson hernandez ???

or any other reasonable hitter in the majors that a team is looking to trade. The answer isnt always in the minors. But, why not them? I at least can say in confidence that they don't have the swing of a 48 year old

[BoondockSaint]

If we had Chris Woodward instead of Franco we'd damn near undefeated.

[Bossanova]

If we had Chris Woodward instead of Franco we'd damn near undefeated.

Gotta love Woody

[BoondockSaint]

Gotta love Woody


Well, Franco has more home runs and rbi's then him this year in 7 less atbats.

[Kevin]

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jose Castillo
Pirates Thanks, but no thanks
May 15 - The Mets, despite a need for a second baseman, are not interested in trading for Jose Castillo, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports.
Castillo's agent has asked the Pirates to trade his client if he cannot play regularly.

The Bucs offered Castillo in trade talks in the offseason but were thwarted by a lack of takers.

[cougarjake13]

or any other reasonable hitter in the majors that a team is looking to trade. The answer isnt always in the minors. But, why not them? I at least can say in confidence that they don't have the swing of a 48 year old

franco is still a decnt pinch hitter/ backup first basemen

yes they're are many more younger players that are capable of doing the same job

but i like having him as kind of a mentor and influence

think about it if some punk kid is sitting there complaining he's just a pinch hitter and occasional spot starter if could cause disruption in the clubhouse

franco's just happy to still be a member of the team, and all the intangibles of playing in the game for almost 30 years

thats a lot of knowledge there, even if he cany speak english

[BoondockSaint]

So, after reading this article on Milledge (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2007/05/16/2007-05-16_lastings_latest_bad_rap-2.html), and seeing Gomez, I wonder which pitcher the Mets are going to trade Milledge for.

[cougarjake13]

So, after reading this article on Milledge (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2007/05/16/2007-05-16_lastings_latest_bad_rap-2.html), and seeing Gomez, I wonder which pitcher the Mets are going to trade Milledge for.

we shoulda traded him for zito last year

i know its hindsight and i probably posted in this thread or the offseason thread that we shouldnt trade lastings for him but you know what they say about hindsight being 20-20

[newport king]

wasnt there a time last year when we could have dumped milledge and sour-puss heilman for oswalt??

[spadanko]

wasnt there a time last year when we could have dumped milledge and sour-puss heilman for oswalt??

it was a 3 way trade... Baltimore would have dealt Tejada o houston.. orioles backed out at the last minute. Mets then tried to get a deal dne with jsut the stros, but ran out of time

[CruelCircus]

I have two tickets for the Sat. 5/19 Mets-Yanks game at Shea that I can't use. They are Mezz Reserved, Section 12, Row L.

I'm looking to trade with someone for comparable Sun. 5/20 at Shea, Fri 6/15 at Yankee Stadium, or Sun. 6/17 at YS.

(I'd really rather get tix I can use, but I guess worst case I'd sell my seats.)

PM me with interest.

Thanks!

[BoondockSaint]

Not exactly Murder's Row heading out there for the Mets today.

Chavez, CF
Gotay, SS
Green, RF
Delgado, 1B
Franco, 3B
Newhan, 2B
Castro, C
Gomez, LF
Vargas, P

[Marc with a c]

holy fuck. i wish i saw that.

[BoondockSaint]

WOW! What a fucking win!!!!!!!!! 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to win it.

[spadanko]

Fucking Eh!!!

[Robot_Dave]

how about our boy D-Wright coming of the bench in the clutch! 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th.... now that is a way to win a ballgame!

[BeerBandit]

Wow!

Just Wow!

[TheMojoPin]

Thank God I missed today's game due to classes. If I had actually watched the Cubs blow it like this, I'd probably be in a coma of rage.

[cougarjake13]

Thank God I missed today's game due to classes. If I had actually watched the Cubs blow it like this, I'd probably be in a coma of rage.

you'll still see it on every sportscenter or espn news recap for the rest of the day and early tommorow morning

[cougarjake13]

WOW! What a fucking win!!!!!!!!! 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to win it.

i know its early but these are the types of games that special teams destined for greatness win

[TheMojoPin]

i know its early but these are the types of games that special teams destined for greatness win

Don't get too excited. Contrary to the money spent, the Cubs have been REALLY bad so far this season with the exception of about a week.

And seeing replays don't get me mad. It's only when I see the Cubs lose live that the fury and anguish cannot be contained.

[BoondockSaint]

Willie just said that Gomez will be playing left field tonight. I like it but I am surprised that he's doing it in the first game of this series.

[ralphbxny]

Big time yanks fan but I think game 1 goes to the mets...they kill lefties and the yanks have a tough time vs them.

[ralphbxny]

Fffrrrruuuuunnkkkkkkkisssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

Willie just said that Gomez will be playing left field tonight. I like it but I am surprised that he's doing it in the first game of this series.

would you rather have endy out there ???

[BoondockSaint]

would you rather have endy out there ???


We had both!!!!!

And this Perez kid looks like a keeper.

[K.C.]

We had both!!!!!

And this Perez kid looks like a keeper.

Everytime someone says that about him he walks 9 in his next start.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Mets Win, Gr8 Game by Oliver, (I knew picking him up would be worth it), he just needed to get away from being a Pittsburgh Pirate, it puts a damper on the self esteem, now we have the pitchig advantage, I said 2 of 3, lets get 2 the easy way today

:king:

[cougarjake13]

on the hill today



3:55 p.m. Yankees at Mets
NYY: D Rasner (1-2, 3.28)
NYM: T Glavine (4-1, 3.31)

[K.C.]

Mets Win, Gr8 Game by Oliver, (I knew picking him up would be worth it), he just needed to get away from being a Pittsburgh Pirate, it puts a damper on the self esteem, now we have the pitchig advantage, I said 2 of 3, lets get 2 the easy way today

:king:

I am a Mets fan by NO means (see my sig), but if the Mets can't get all three with the rag arms the Yanks are throwing in the next two games, something's wrong.

[BeerBandit]

It may be time to give Schoenweiss the old Jorge Julio treatment. He has not impressed me one bit this year, and with Feliciano pitching lights out Scotty's become expendable. There's gotta be an AL contender with prospects looking for some lefty bullpen help.

[BoondockSaint]

It may be time to give Schoenweiss the old Jorge Julio treatment. He has not impressed me one bit this year, and with Feliciano pitching lights out Scotty's become expendable. There's gotta be an AL contender with prospects looking for some lefty bullpen help.


Why did they give him 3 years?

[cougarjake13]

Why did they give him 3 years?

i dont remeber there being a bidding war with any other teams so who the hell knows

[Bulldogcakes]

Pedro Eyes August Return (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2879492)

BOCA CHICA, Dominican Republic -- New York Mets fans, mark your calendars: Pedro Martinez could be back on the mound by August.

"Things with Pedro are moving forward very nicely," Mets general manager Omar Minaya said Tuesday. "We are hoping for his return in August, but the most important thing is that he recovers from his injury."

[BoondockSaint]

I hate the goddamn Braves.

[Bossanova]

I hate the goddamn Braves.

Like, what the fuck do they have to do to beat this goddam team

[BoondockSaint]

Like, what the fuck do they have to do to beat this goddam team

At least Andruw Jones will be gone next year.

[Bossanova]

At least Andruw Jones will be gone next year.

I will not be happy until every tie to the original pains in the ass are gone

[cougarjake13]

I hate the goddamn Braves.

quoted for truth

[BoondockSaint]

Tonight's lineup:
Reyes
Green
Beltran
Wright
LoDuca
Delgado
Easley
Gomez
Perez

So Delgado gets dropped to 6th. Hopefully it takes some pressure off him and he can get rolling. I think we really need to win tonight to get back to winning against the Braves.

[cougarjake13]

olie perez vs chuck james

should be a decent game depends on what perez shows up

[BoondockSaint]

Perez really hasn't been all that inconsistent this year:

IP H R ER
7.0 5 1 1
2.2 1 3 3
6.2 9 2 2
7.0 8 4 4
5.2 3 3 1
4.2 5 8 2
8.1 2 1 1
7.2 5 2 2
7.0 4 0 0

I might ever buy a Perez jersey. Plus, this is the third time he's beaten the Braves this year.

[weekapaugjz]

Perez really hasn't been all that inconsistent this year:

I might ever buy a Perez jersey. Plus, this is the third time he's beaten the Braves this year.

perez pitched fucking awesome tonight, as he has for a while now. im hoping he can keep it up.

[BoondockSaint]

perez pitched fucking awesome tonight, as he has for a while now. im hoping he can keep it up.


And big games don't seem to bother him either. Playoffs, Yankees, big game vs. Braves. Doesn't matter.

[Devo37]

a nice performance tonight by Perez, but he scares me. He seems to randomly fall apart once in while.

Let's Go Mets Go!!!!

p.s. i hate the recent trend at shea where the "Let's Go Mets!" chant has been replaced by "Let's Go Mets! WHOO!"

[weekapaugjz]

And big games don't seem to bother him either. Playoffs, Yankees, big game vs. Braves. Doesn't matter.

the stat of the night i picked up on for perez, 3 ER in the last 23 innings against the brewers, yankees, and braves. that's fucking impressive.

[BoondockSaint]

p.s. i hate the recent trend at shea where the "Let's Go Mets!" chant has been replaced by "Let's Go Mets! WHOO!"


I like it. I take it a step further and start handing out Flair chops to whoever is around me.

[Devo37]

I like it. I take it a step further and start handing out Flair chops to whoever is around me.

throwing random flair-chops may help me get into it, but it's really more of a HOOO than a WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

at any rate, "Let's Go [1-syllable-team-name]" and "Let's Go [2-syllable-team-name] *clap clap clap-clap-clap*" are perfect. no need to add any extra bells, whistles or HOOOS.

[Bossanova]

I don't know, Glavine beat this fucking team for once.

[Bulldogcakes]

What is it with the Braves?

[BoarsHeadRob]

They blow.. the Mets can never beat the Braves. You realize that they only have 3 wins against the Braves all year.. Every win was by Oliver Perez (who basically just pitches like a maniac so isn't exactly a consistent starter) They're never gonna win the series if they don't get over this goddamn hump.

[Bulldogcakes]

Hernandez will start Friday vs. Marlins (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2882183)

New York Mets manager Willie Randolph told The New York Times that pitcher Orlando Hernandez will start Friday's game against the Florida Marlins. Randolph told the newspaper that Hernandez would not be on a pitch count.

[BoondockSaint]

Weird game tonight. The pitching was great, the running stunk. Big ninth inng but Wagner wasn't sharp. Eh, I'll take it.

By the way, hearing Pedro say that he thinks there is no doubt that he will have increased velocity made me warm inside. "If you ask me, I don't have any doubts I'll be mid-90s again," Martinez said. If Pedro is able to hit 92 or 93 when he wants, look out.

[cougarjake13]

Weird game tonight. The pitching was great, the running stunk. Big ninth inng but Wagner wasn't sharp. Eh, I'll take it.


it happens every time the mets have more than a 3 run lead and bring wags in a non save situation

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Good thing was have a Series at Home this Weekend. Our Summer Stadium in Florida

:king:

[docgoblin]

Weird game tonight. The pitching was great, the running stunk. Big ninth inng but Wagner wasn't sharp. Eh, I'll take it.

I've never seen them have that many baserunning errors... I'm sure Willie had a few things to say after the game... It was a fortunate win.

[BeerBandit]

Great first 5 from Maine tonight. Plus Delgado may be zoning in. Alou's coming back in a couple days. This team really needs a nice two week run to put some space between them and the Bravos.

[cougarjake13]

i know he is still young and maybe is just growing into his body but

look at the miguel cabrera from the marlins 03 championship season and the enormously maybe fat, maybe steriods/hgh enhanced miggy at todays mets marlins game

if he isnt on anything he needs to lay off the cheeseburgers

[cougarjake13]

Great first 5 from Maine tonight. Plus Delgado may be zoning in. Alou's coming back in a couple days. This team really needs a nice two week run to put some space between them and the Bravos.

well the cheesesteaks are helping us big time by wiining the 1st 2 against the bravos and are up 4-1 in the 3rd right now


National League East Division

Team W L Pct GB

Mets........31 17 .646
Braves......28 21 .571 3 ½
Phillies......25 24 .510 6 ½
Marlins......23 26 .469 8 ½
Nationals...20 30 .400 12

[BoondockSaint]

Make that a 4.5 game lead now.

[cougarjake13]

Make that a 4.5 game lead now.

thanks to the cheesesteaks

[cougarjake13]

next up

mets play the giants

phillies play the d backs

braves play the brew crew

[BoondockSaint]

Just saw a stat that Wagner has coverted 30 straight save chances. Not bad.

[cougarjake13]

Just saw a stat that Wagner has coverted 30 straight save chances. Not bad.

you just fucking jinxed it motherfucker

[BoondockSaint]

Damn, this Lincecum kid looks like the real deal. 2 runs might be too much.

[BoondockSaint]

WOW! Delgado crushed that one.

[Bossanova]

Thats was huge in so many ways

[BoondockSaint]

Does Vizquel ever fuck up?

[docgoblin]

Is Smith's arm broken?... Why did they waste Wagner in a non-save situation, then go to Schoeneweis, then Heilman?.. What's going on here?

[docgoblin]

This just seems to be one of those games they're destined to lose. After that insane play by Vizquel in the 9th, And the Mets blowing a golden chance in the 10th... You gotta figure that fate has given this one to San Francisco.

[BoondockSaint]

They really need to end this. I need some fucking sleep.

[BoondockSaint]

I like this idea. Give up a run so that they bring in Armando.

[Bossanova]

I like this idea. Give up a run so that they bring in Armando.

HAHAHA, Willie is a genious

[Marc with a c]

i would love to see benitex break out a slide step, and still throw strikes

[Bossanova]

HAHAHAHAHA, a fucking balk

[BoondockSaint]

HAHAHAHAHA, a fucking balk


x2! HAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!

[Bossanova]

what???????

[Marc with a c]

2 balks in an inning by the same pitcher. never seen that one before.

[Marc with a c]

i love the mets

[Bossanova]

Fuck yes

[BoondockSaint]

Unreal. I can't wait to hear Mike and the Maddog tomorrow.

[weekapaugjz]

holy shit that was fucking awesome. and especially against benitez. fuck benitez

[Bossanova]

Unreal. I can't wait to hear Mike and the Maddog tomorrow.

Me either, especially on top of another Yankee loss

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Mets Win, Yanks Lose... Seems like the Status Quo

:king:

[hammersavage]

In the words of the immortal Bobby V. "THE MONSTER'S OUT OF THE CAGE!!!"

[Marc with a c]

In the words of the immortal Bobby V. "THE MONSTER'S OUT OF THE CAGE!!!"

that was jon stearns. dont ask why i know that

[Kevin]

that was jon stearns. dont ask why i know that

You remembered how white his sneakers were, as he was saying it??

[hammersavage]

that was jon stearns. i apologize for the error. it was hard to think straight with such a hard on from tonights game...

[margin]

damn, that sucked

the first baulk was tick tacky, not that it mattered in the end. fuckin benitez.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Great ending for you guys last night. No way Delgado wasn't going to hit a homer after his miscue at first.

[BoondockSaint]

Great ending for you guys last night. No way Delgado wasn't going to hit a homer after his miscue at first.

Miscue?

[BeerBandit]

Miscue?

Agreed. I don't think it was a miscue. He had to go for the sure out. We saw what happened to Billy Wagner when he tried the throw to the plate.

[BoondockSaint]

Agreed. I don't think it was a miscue. He had to go for the sure out. We saw what happened to Billy Wagner when he tried the throw to the plate.

Plus, his momentem was carrying him that way. It would have taken him just as long to stop, turn and throw as it did to hit the bag, turn and throw.

[Bellyfullasnot]

Mets Win, Yanks Lose... Seems like the Status Quo

:king:

YOU JINXED IT! STUPID ZITO!

[BoondockSaint]

I don't like this new strategy of giving up 2 runs in the top of the first.

[Bossanova]

I don't like this new strategy of giving up 2 runs in the top of the first.

Not at all. Go to see Beltran go out after a weak collision

[cougarjake13]

well its 4-2 now so i got upset for nuttin

[BoondockSaint]

Another series win, another good pitching performance, etc.......

[hammersavage]

And after starting the season 0-4, I notched seeing my first win at Shea last night...Thank god cuz I have tickets to at least 5 more games...

[BoondockSaint]

Beltran and Wright both out of the lineup tonight. Beltran with his knee and Wright with back spasms. Weak lineup against Webb tonight.

[cougarjake13]

livan hernandez vs jorge sosa today

and

doug davis vs ollie perez on sunday



should be interesting, hopefully the cubbies can get their shit together and help a brother out

[cougarjake13]

nice win for the mets today

[Bossanova]

Holy crap that defense is garbage this year

[Bossanova]

Motherfuck

[K.C.]

One down, two more to go.

The fact that Antonio Alfonseca notched a save last night should be a complete embarassment for the Mets...that may literally be the first time I've seen him get batters out in about a month.

[spadanko]

well he better be getting out Ben Johnson and Carlos Gomez... otherwise he should not be in baseball

[cougarjake13]

tonight's matchup

7:10 p.m. Phillies at Mets
PHI: A Eaton (5-4, 6.28)
NYM: O Hernandez (3-1, 2.20)

[docgoblin]

I am getting very concerned... They can't score more than 2 runs against a 6.00 ERA pitcher... Then Heilman blows a 2-0 lead on a 2 out 1-2 pitch!!?? Why is that pitch anywhere near home plate?!?!? To top it off, they blow a 2nd and 3rd, none out chance in the 8th... AND LOSE CHAVEZ IN THE PROCESS!!!! This team seems to be snake-bit! Does anyone think they can hit against Hamels tomorrow?

[Bossanova]

I am getting very concerned... They can't score more than 2 runs against a 6.00 ERA pitcher... Then Heilman blows a 2-0 lead on a 2 out 1-2 pitch!!?? Why is that pitch anywhere near home plate?!?!? To top it off, they blow a 2nd and 3rd, none out chance in the 8th... AND LOSE CHAVEZ IN THE PROCESS!!!! This team seems to be snake-bit! Does anyone think they can hit against Hammels tomorrow?

Not a chance. They have had a tough streatch and the Phils have played them well in the past few years. They have to get healthy. The opening day starting lineup hasn't played together in forever. It will be ok, every team has to hit a bad slide. Just be happy its now and not in September

[K.C.]

http://pages.infinit.net/nwo4life/scott-hall.jpg

"Survey SAYS...one more...for the good guys!"

[K.C.]

Does anyone think they can hit against Hamels tomorrow?

To answer that question...no, they can't.

But it's not like they won't have a 5 game lead on the Phils even after they get swept tomorrow.

And I wouldn't worry about the Braves...that train is off the tracks.

[spadanko]

*tips his cap to the Phils*

Only thinkg I can do.. you guys got to Feliciano and heilman... gotta give ya credit...

[K.C.]

Well, we'll find out a lot about these two teams by the end of the month...they both have tough schedules for the rest of June, although the Phillies get a bit easier draw of the two:

Mets:
3 @ Detroit
3 @ Los Angeles Dodgers
3 @ New York Yankees
3 vs. Minnesota
3 vs. Oakland
4 vs. St. Louis
4 @ Philadelphia

That 9 game road trip is absolutely brutal, especially if the Phils sweep them tonight and they go into it having lost three straight. Even the home games are tough with Minnesota and Oakland both having quality arms.

St. Louis is the only easy series of the bunch.

Phillies:
3 @ Kansas City
3 vs. Chicago White Sox
3 vs. Detroit
3 @ Cleveland
3 @ St. Louis
3 vs. Cincinnati
4 vs. New York Mets

If the Phils have any heart, they should club the hell out of Kansas City, even on the road...the Sox will be interesting, because both teams are right around the same spot record wise, but going in opposite directions...getting that series at home looks a lot better than 3 in Chi-Town

It gets tough with Detroit and then @ Cleveland...they could conceivably drop 4 or 5 of 6 there unless they're just streaking or luck out with favorable pitching matchups

But it eases up with 3 @ St. Louis, and 3 vs. Cincy.



That Phils/Mets four game set at the end of the month should be a hell of a lot of fun.

[hammersavage]

Same old Phillies. Even if they win tonight, they'll lose 6 in a row starting tomorrow. I will never fear a team from Philadelphia....ever ever ever....

[hammersavage]

Oh shit, I forgot about the Soul...i fear the Soul...

[Marc with a c]

and a belly to belly to belly

[Bossanova]

That was rediculous

[docgoblin]

I HATE Pat Burrell!!!!

[yomudder21]

Well Billy Wagner blew his first save tonight. I want to give him credit for a dominating first half till this point. He just blew his first save out of 14 chances and was only done by that bum - met killer Pat Burrell. If he could play the Mets 162 games a year he would hit 80 home runs. Other then that he is .235 hitting shithead.

[Marc with a c]

i like the mets chances pen vs. pen

[docgoblin]

Well Billy Wagner blew his first save tonight. I want to give him credit for a dominating first half till this point. He just blew his first save out of 14 chances and was only done by that bum - met killer Pat Burrell. If he could play the Mets 162 games a year he would hit 80 home runs. Other then that he is .235 hitting shithead.

Perhaps more than that yomudder....

[docgoblin]

i like the mets chances pen vs. pen

Pen vs. pen has been a disaster this series.

[Marc with a c]

Pen vs. pen has been a disaster this series.

still. the phills pen is not so good

[docgoblin]

still. the phills pen is not so good

I know but our offense has been so anemic that we have little margin for error lately.

[docgoblin]

Who here doesn't think that Howard, Rollins or Utley isn't gonna clobber us right now?

[docgoblin]

Wagner really blew this one!

[docgoblin]

i like the mets chances pen vs. pen

Say again...

[Marc with a c]

Say again...

dont forget antonio alfonseca

[docgoblin]

dont forget antonio alfonseca

I don't care if Benitez is pitching... They ain't coming back from this mess... This is the beginning of the end for this team.

[Marc with a c]

I don't care if Benitez is pitching... They ain't coming back from this mess... This is the beginning of the end for this team.

are you a mets fan?

[docgoblin]

are you a mets fan?

Since 1968... absolute die hard!... And, given their history, a total realist!

[K.C.]

http://www.babalog.com/archives/sweeping.jpg

Thanks for playing boys...see you at the end of June.


By the way, my favorite stat of the series:


Saves Per Opportunity:
Antonio Alfonseca: 3/3
Billy Wagner: 0/1

[Marc with a c]

Since 1968... absolute die hard!... And, given their history, a total realist!

i am a total realist as well, and to say a team is at the beginning of their demise when they are in first place by five games with 5 regulars on the DL and the best pitcher on the DL is being a tad pesimistic

[docgoblin]

i am a total realist as well, and to say a team is at the beginning of their demise when they are in first place by five games with 5 regulars on the DL and the best pitcher on the DL is being a tad pesimistic

How are they in first by 5 games? I thought it was 3 1/2... Has this last home stand filled you with a great deal of confidence? I've been through the '73 World Series (up 3 games to 2). I've also been through the '85 season, the '87 season, the '88 season (when they were a SURE THING to win it all), and the 2000 season when Benitez destroyed all our dreams... Not to mention last year when they never should have lost that series...I'm not a pesimist. I'm a realist. Atlanta may be floundering like we are, but those Phils are right in the mix after we completely folded to them in our building, and they're hungry as hell!

[cougarjake13]

How are they in first by 5 games? I thought it was 3 1/2...


well they are up 5 games on the phillies but only 3 1/2 on the braves


National League East Division
Team....W L.... Pct ...GB
Mets.....35 23 .603 -
Braves..33 28 .541.... 3 ½
Phillies..31 29 .517 ... 5
Marlins..30 31 .492 ....6 ½
Nats......24 36 .400 ...12

[cougarjake13]

mets just scored another run

up 3-0 on the tigers in the 9th

[weekapaugjz]

mets just scored another run

up 3-0 on the tigers in the 9th

and game...

[Kevin]

I would just like to thank The Mets for beating the Tigers.. 5 games out of the WC

[Marc with a c]

I would just like to thank The Mets for beating the Tigers.. 5 games out of the WC

how could a national league team shut out an american league team? the pitchers in the NL suck and the hitters in the AL are all hall of famers.

[Doctor Z]

On behalf of Yankee fans, I would like to thank the Mets for beating Detroit tonight. NOW SWEEP THEIR ASSES!

[Kevin]

how could a national league team shut out an american league team? the pitchers in the NL suck and the hitters in the AL are all hall of famers.

Well sun shines on a dogs ass once in a while..But Thanks anyway!

[weekapaugjz]

Well sun shines on a dogs ass once in a while..But Thanks anyway!

but apparently not on the yanks this season...

[Kevin]

but apparently not on the yanks this season...

Have yee been watching us lately Son?? 7 out of 9 and 4 in a row.. We started slow but we are playing prettaay prettaaay prettaay prettaay good!

[weekapaugjz]

Have yee been watching us lately Son?? 7 out of 9 and 4 in a row.. We started slow but we are playing prettaay prettaaay prettaay prettaay good!

yes, i have been watching some of the games, not nearly as good as the mets though...(except for that stint against the phils)

[Kevin]

This is more like the good for nothing Mets i know.. No sun shining today.. WELL TANKS FOR NOTTIN

[cougarjake13]

This is more like the good for nothing Mets i know.. No sun shining today.. WELL TANKS FOR NOTTIN

hey we're making a comeback

[Kevin]

hey we're making a comeback

Really? Whats score??

[cougarjake13]

Really? Whats score??

currently 8-7 tigers

[Bossanova]

Look at Kevin acting tough after the yankees took out the awful Whitesox and the dismal Pirates. Your team is still 10 back sweetie

[Kevin]

5 WC

4 if You dinks complete the comeback

[Kevin]

Nice work Jose.. WAY TO BE A CATALYST!!!!

[Bossanova]

Nice work Jose.. WAY TO BE A CATALYST!!!!

Son of a bitch

[Kevin]

Son of a bitch

Me or Jose???

[Bossanova]

Me or Jose???

You, Jose, and Delgado

[Kevin]

This is more like the good for nothing Mets i know.. No sun shining today.. WELL TANKS FOR NOTTIN

............

[Kevin]

You, Jose, and Delgado

Fair enough..

[Bossanova]

Get out of this thread

[Kevin]

Get out of this thread

Nay.. i have a rootin intrest!

[Bossanova]

Nay.. i have a rootin intrest!

DAMN, you have me on a loop hole. Just .............. take it easy please. This is a little rough patch

[cougarjake13]

ahh we made a nice but come up short comeback

oh well todays the rubber match


1:05 p.m. Mets at Tigers
NYM: T Glavine (5-3, 3.36)
DET: A Miller (1-0, 0.00)

[weekapaugjz]

nice, carlos gomez with his first homer as a pro! too bad they're still down by four...

[cougarjake13]

second day in a row that we gave upo a huge inning and got a few back the next

[Bossanova]

Ok, Im not going to freak out about this team, but I am getting concerned about the pitching

[cougarjake13]

Ok, Im not going to freak out about this team, but I am getting concerned about the pitching

its a long season we cant expect them to pitch like gods all year

[cougarjake13]

man they're getting fucking destroyed

[Bossanova]

its a long season we cant expect them to pitch like gods all year

I know, Im just saying Im concerened. Not panicing yet

[Kevin]

Ok, Im not going to freak out about this team, but I am getting concerned about the pitching

Don't worry.. Your going to go back to playing your little leauge NL teams soon enough.. You will be fine

[Kevin]

This is more like the good for nothing Mets i know.. No sun shining today.. WELL TANKS FOR NOTTIN

............

.........................

[BoondockSaint]

I hate the fucking 10pm starts.

[Bossanova]

I hate the fucking 10pm starts.

More than anything

[Kevin]

I hate the fucking 10pm starts.

Where ya been, Boony?? We missed yee..

[cougarjake13]

I hate the fucking 10pm starts.

yeh it fucking sucks even more when ya cant watch the game

[Kevin]

I hate the fucking 10pm starts.

When you gotta work tomorrow, it sucks balls, but when you don't its sometimes nice to have a game where you can watch in your bed.

[Kevin]

CJ check your PM..

[Bossanova]

When you gotta work tomorrow, it sucks balls, but when you don't its sometimes nice to have a game where you can watch in your bed.

Thats what UltiMET classics are for sweetie

[Kevin]

Thats what UltiMET classics are for sweetie

Are they like Yankee classics where apparently the franchise has never lost a game?

[BoondockSaint]

Where ya been, Boony?? We missed yee..


Ah, I been around. Not much to say the last two weeks. Went to the game last Thursday against the Phils. I think I put the hex on Wagner when after the top of the 8th I started yelling that the game was over.

[BadGuyDavey]

yeh it fucking sucks even more when ya cant watch the game

i second that one... im in fort myers jake... it sucks to be a met fan in florida... or... it rules.. because when they beat the marlins you can SHove it in everyones FACE

[Bossanova]

Are they like Yankee classics where apparently the franchise has never lost a game?

Um.................... No........... I mean there was that one game, um. Well yes?

[Kevin]

Ah, I been around. Not much to say the last two weeks. Went to the game last Thursday against the Phils. I think I put the hex on Wagner when after the top of the 8th I started yelling that the game was over.

Wow really.. well its not like they had a 3 or 4 run lead at the time.. so how could you know??

[BoondockSaint]

Are they like Yankee classics where apparently the franchise has never lost a game?

Yeah except for the last few Mondays they've been showing the games from the 69 Series which is awesome because I had never seen them before. I really liked getting a look at Koosman. He could be fucking nasty. For a guy with his stuff he had a very strange career.

[Bossanova]

Wow really.. well its not like they had a 3 or 4 run lead at the time.. so how could you know??

31 straight

[Kevin]

Yeah except for the last few Mondays they've been showing the games from the 69 Series which is awesome because I had never seen them before. I really liked getting a look at Koosman. He could be fucking nasty. For a guy with his stuff he had a very strange career.

Yea pitchers are strange.. You take a guy like Farnsworth (not comparing too koos) But he has such nasty stuff. Yet he sucks more than not.. No reason why he should not dominate.. Other than being stupid.. Kinda like Beckett Before apparently this year..

[cougarjake13]

i second that one... im in fort myers jake... it sucks to be a met fan in florida... or... it rules.. because when they beat the marlins you can SHove it in everyones FACE

hell yeh

but ya know what pisses me off ???

everytime they play the al east, they never fucking play the d rays

[BoondockSaint]

Yea pitchers are strange.. You take a guy like Farnsworth (not comparing too koos) But he has such nasty stuff. Yet he sucks more than not.. No reason why he should not dominate.. Other than being stupid.. Kinda like Beckett Before apparently this year..

Well, it's more that he would pitch well but on some lousy teams. And he'd have years where he was 8-20 and 3-15. Now even if you take into account how bad the Mets were those years you would think he'd have a better record. I think he must have been one of those bad luck pitchers some of those years where they just scored no runs when he started.

[BadGuyDavey]

i guess for you that may be something worth waiting to taunt about... but for me where i live... its like everyone either originated from new york or new jersey... or they were born in miami... and in a wierd instance... i have a friend who was born in the bronx, hails miami and roots for the marlins.. and says his older brother is a mets fan... we always get into the same arguements every time

Jets > Dolphins
Mets > Marlins
Knicks > or = a pile of poop

to be honest im a huge knicks fan... i just hate how they play like ass... Channing Frye was born in my home town in new york... and yet i cant represent him, especially down here where they eat you alive with miami.


But im glad the Mets finally started to kick there shit into high gear... born a mets fan, and ill die one... i just hope in that time period they win a world series

[Kevin]

Well, it's more that he would pitch well but on some lousy teams. And he'd have years where he was 8-20 and 3-15. Now even if you take into account how bad the Mets were those years you would think he'd have a better record. I think he must have been one of those bad luck pitchers some of those years where they just scored no runs when he started.

Kinda like AP for us this year..

[BoondockSaint]

Kinda like AP for us this year..

Yeah, that 's a better comparison. Sid Fernandez was the same way but I always thought that he pitched too slow and the fielders would lose focus behind him. An interesting stat for El Sid is that if he pitched 140 more innings he would qualify for the record of best all time Opponents Batting Average Against and he would be tied for third with Pedro behind Nolan Ryan and Koufax.

[Kevin]

Yeah, that 's a better comparison. Sid Fernandez was the same way but I always thought that he pitched too slow and the fielders would lose focus behind him. An interesting stat for El Sid is that if he pitched 140 more innings he would qualify for the record of best all time Opponents Batting Average Against and he would be tied for third with Pedro behind Nolan Ryan and Koufax.

El sid woulda had a great career if he didnt eat it away..

[BoondockSaint]

El sid woulda had a great career if he didnt eat it away..

Yeah, in the end it wasn't his arm, it was his knees. But maybe if he's a skinny dude he never has the career he had. But that is one of the reasons I love baseball, watching guys who shouldn't succeed do and guys that should don't and the infinite questions and arguments about why.

[Kevin]

Yeah, in the end it wasn't his arm, it was his knees. But maybe if he's a skinny dude he never has the career he had. But that is one of the reasons I love baseball, watching guys who shouldn't succeed do and guys that should don't and the infinite questions and arguments about why.

I can't imagine how it must be for the ones with great arms, who never made it... For whatever reason.. injury etc.... All your life your told your going be a HOF.. And nothing.. Thats got make you bitter.. Esp when you see others with less talent make it..

[BoondockSaint]

I hate the fucking 10pm starts.

Especially when they play like shit. But at least I'm drinking and have nowhere to be tomorrow.

[BoondockSaint]

I can't imagine how it must be for the ones with great arms, who never made it... For whatever reason.. injury etc.... All your life your told your going be a HOF.. And nothing.. Thats got make you bitter.. Esp when you see others with less talent make it..


Or a guy like Wood or Mark Prior who should have been great but injuries have killled their careers.

[Bossanova]

What the fuck is with this

[docgoblin]

They gotta stop the bleeding tonight. It's a tall order with Penny going, but hopefully Sosa will turn in another gem.

[Bossanova]

They gotta stop the bleeding tonight. It's a tall order with Penny going, but hopefully Sosa will turn in another gem.

Sosa has no choice. And Willie has to bump LoDuca back at two. Reyes hasn't done much since the switch, pitchers dont have to pitch to him anymore.

[BoondockSaint]

This may be a nasty game tonight. Willie was PISSED at the way their pitcher styled after hitting his homerun last night. Maybe a good brawl will wake these fuckers up.

[Bossanova]

This may be a nasty game tonight. Willie was PISSED at the way their pitcher styled after hitting his homerun last night. Maybe a good brawl will wake these fuckers up.

Something has to. And hey Carlos' could you two show some emotion in this awful slump

[BoondockSaint]

:wallbash:

[Marc with a c]

the mets need a vacation

[Kevin]

The team that your playing next have not been playing any good it seems.. They are only 1 game over 500..

[King Hippos Bandaid]

2 out of 3 Against the Yanks will make lemonaide of this Debacle of a losing streak

:king:

[Kevin]

2 out of 3 Against the Yanks will make lemonaide of this Debacle of a losing streak

:king:

You barley got 2 out of 3 last time when you were playing great and we were playing like dog shit... and at home. I would honestly sign for 1 if i were Mets fan right now..

[BoondockSaint]

You barley got 2 out of 3 last time when you were playing great and we were playing like dog shit... and at home. I would honestly sign for 1 if i were Mets fan right now..

When has that series ever reflected how either team was playing?

[BoondockSaint]

At least they wont lose tonight. But the SI jinx is in:

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2007/0618_large.jpg

Great article by the way. Some cool shit about Omar I never heard before.

[docgoblin]

At least they wont lose tonight. But the SI jinx is in:

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2007/0618_large.jpg

Great article by the way. Some cool shit about Omar I never heard before.

The SI cover is the kiss of death! The last time the Mets were featured was '06 cover with Beltran, Wright, LoDuca, Reyes and Delgado. How'd that season end? The one before that was 2000 where they declared Piazza the greatest catcher ever... Another failed season. 1999 Introduced the best infield ever (Ordonez, Alfonzo, Ventura, Olerud)... That didn't work out so well either. They had another great cover in the mid 90's declaring Isringhausen, Pulispher and Wilson the greatest phenom pitchers ever... That never panned out for the Mets as far as I can remember. Any SI covers are a disaster for them...

[7fttall500+]

Oh the Mets are on the SI cover who is first to get injured!!!

[BoondockSaint]

Oh the Mets are on the SI cover who is first to get injured!!!


Chavez is already on the DL.

So what are we thinking here this weekend, Mets sweep?

[Kevin]

Francessa just said that Franco is playing 1b instead of Delgado.. I know Carlos is struggling but Franco can't hit a fastball.. And his avg is 209vs Clemens with 12k's Don't know how many at bats.. I don't know about that move..

[BoondockSaint]

Francessa just said that Franco is playing 1b insted of Delgado.. I know Carlos is struggling but Franco can't hit a fastball.. And his avg is 209vs Clemens with 12k's Don't know how many at bats.. I don't know about that move..


Delgado is DHing.

[Kevin]

Delgado is DHing.

You sure?? He said Laduca is and Castro is C..

[BoondockSaint]

You sure?? He said Laduca is and Castro is C..

No, he said that's what he thought Willie would do.

Tonight's line up is:

SS Jose Reyes
CF Carlos Beltran
3B David Wright
DH Carlos Delgado
C Paul Lo Duca
RF Shawn Green
2B Jose Valentin
1B Julio Franco
LF Carlos Gomez
LHP Oliver Perez

[Kevin]

No, he said that's what he thought Willie would do.

Tonight's line up is:

SS Jose Reyes
CF Carlos Beltran
3B David Wright
DH Carlos Delgado
C Paul Lo Duca
RF Shawn Green
2B Jose Valentin
1B Julio Franco
LF Carlos Gomez
LHP Oliver Perez


Got ya.. I still would not put Franco in.. He can't hit a FB and his #'s vs Clemens are awful..

[BoondockSaint]

Got ya.. I still would not put Franco in.. He can't hit a FB and his #'s vs Clemens are awful..

I would have done it the other way too. Or even DH Castro but watch Franco get a big hit tonight and Willie's hunch works out.

[Kevin]

I would have done it the other way too. Or even DH Castro but watch Franco get a big hit tonight and Willie's hunch works out.

Stranger things have happened.. I was only thinking Castro C because of Oli.. Maybe a Spanish speaker would be a more calming influence on him.. He does tend to get a little hyped on the mound, and walks the ballpark..

[BoondockSaint]

Stranger things have happened.. I was only thinking Castro C because of Oli.. Maybe a Spanish speaker would be a more calming influence on him.. He does tend to get a little hyped on the mound, and walks the ballpark..


He actually seems to do better when there is more pressure like in the post-season and against the Braves and Yanks this year. I think the pressure keeps him focused. In 28.1 innings against the Braves and Yanks this year he has 4 walks.

[Kevin]

Wishful Met fan working for Yesnetwork.com?? Sign?? Or mistake??

Pitchers and Starting Lineups for June 15, 2007

Starter W-L Record ERA
Roger Clemens 1-1 4.50
Oliver Perez 6-5 3.21

[BoondockSaint]

Have to get a run there.

[Kevin]

Wright was the Key to that Inn.. 3-1 count 1st 2nd no out.. You can't swing at a ball on a 3-1 count and ground it right to Arod for the force.. He made an out and Got Reyes off base.. Double whammy..

[BoondockSaint]

Almost.

[Kevin]

Almost.

Yea.. Nice shot.. Although he was K'd on that previous pitch..

[BoondockSaint]

Tommy Lasorda and Michael Milken are in the Mets tv booth. Lasorda songs drunk and he's breathing into the mic like Paul O.

[NickyL0885]

Tommy Lasorda and Michael Milken are in the Mets tv booth. Lasorda songs drunk and he's breathing into the mic like Paul O.

Holy shit, i was just about to say that. His breathing is fricken annoying.

[Marc with a c]

jose reyes is faster then all of you

[Kevin]

You Boys are really playin with Fire.. You have had so many shots to put us in a hole.. Delgado looks awful.. Old?? Slump? What??

[Kevin]

Fucking Sterling.. That ball is high it is far.. It is Caught by Beltran


CAN YOU MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU MAKE A FUCKING CALL.. YOU FUCKING TARD!!!

[cougarjake13]

jose reyes is faster then all of you

i would hope so

[BoondockSaint]

Carlos Gomez is my hero.

[Marc with a c]

Carlos Gomez is my hero.

carlos gomez is faster then all of you

[Kevin]

Carlos Gomez is my hero.

Phelps should be your hero... That useless douchebag fucked up the whole inning.

[cougarjake13]

great catch by gomez

and a nice homer by reyes

[BoondockSaint]

jose reyes is faster then all of you


His home run trot is faster than all of us.

[Kevin]

Hat trick!