~ 2012 MLB Off-Season Thread ~

[hanso]

McGriff gets snubbed again.


Larkin is In

That's a crime dog.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's a crime dog.

:lol:

[Snoogans]

Player Votes Pct
Barry Larkin 496 86.4
Jack Morris 382 66.7
Jeff Bagwell 321 56.0
Lee Smith 290 50.6
Tim Raines 279 48.7
Alan Trammell 211 36.8
Edgar Martinez 209 36.5
Fred McGriff 137 23.9
Larry Walker 131 22.9
Mark McGwire 112 19.5
Don Mattingly 102 17.8
Dale Murphy 83 14.5
Rafael Palmeiro 72 12.6
Others receiving votes: Bernie Williams, 55; Juan Gonzalez, 23; Vinny Castilla, 6; Tim Salmon, 5; Bill Mueller, 4; Brad Radke, 2; Javy Lopez, 1; Eric Young, 1.

the fact that Edgar Martinez gets more votes than McGriff makes me really angry. And HOLY SHIT on mattingly. I really think he should be in there, personally. I completely forgot he was still on the ballot

[Snacks]

the fact that Edgar Martinez gets more votes than McGriff makes me really angry. And HOLY SHIT on mattingly. I really think he should be in there, personally. I completely forgot he was still on the ballot

Mattingly does not deserve to be a hall of famer. He played a position of power and only had power for a couple of years. His numbers are no where near what they need to be to be a hall of famer at 1b. Yes he has lots of gold gloves which help him but the rest of his #s are not good enough.

Looking at the votes Mcgriff aint ever getting in. Hes way too low in votes its will be too hard to make that up. The only way he gets in is the vet committee voting him in years from now.

[Snoogans]

Mattingly does not deserve to be a hall of famer. He played a position of power and only had power for a couple of years. His numbers are no where near what they need to be to be a hall of famer at 1b. Yes he has lots of gold gloves which help him but the rest of his #s are not good enough.

Looking at the votes Mcgriff aint ever getting in. Hes way too low in votes its will be too hard to make that up. The only way he gets in is the vet committee voting him in years from now.

we did this once on the board and if i remember right, mattinglys numbers ended up being surprisingly as good or better than a bunch of 1b who are already in the hall. injuries fucked mattingly, but for 5-10 years he was undoubtedly the best at his position. And this is coming from a Red Sox fan, sayin he should get in.

[Snacks]

we did this once on the board and if i remember right, mattinglys numbers ended up being surprisingly as good or better than a bunch of 1b who are already in the hall. injuries fucked mattingly, but for 5-10 years he was undoubtedly the best at his position. And this is coming from a Red Sox fan, sayin he should get in.

i agree injuries fucked him and he was the best all around at his position for 5 years (not 10) but all that counts and you cant let a guy in because he was injured. hes at like 17% votes, he aint getting in unless the vet committee votes him in which he has a shot because a lot of those voters are probably yankees! (im just guessing that)

[Snoogans]

i agree injuries fucked him and he was the best all around at his position for 5 years (not 10) but all that counts and you cant let a guy in because he was injured. hes at like 17% votes, he aint getting in unless the vet committee votes him in which he has a shot because a lot of those voters are probably yankees! (im just guessing that)

even with the injuries his numbers arent bad, man. He hit over 300 for his career. there was a time (and he played in part of that time) where that alone would get you in. over 1K RBI, incredible defense. Has an MVP, a few silver sluggers.

I think Mattingly should get in if that fat bum Kirby Puckett is in

[Snacks]

even with the injuries his numbers arent bad, man. He hit over 300 for his career. there was a time (and he played in part of that time) where that alone would get you in. over 1K RBI, incredible defense. Has an MVP, a few silver sluggers.

I think Mattingly should get in if that fat bum Kirby Puckett is in

I still dont know how he got in? I dont care that he retired sooner then he should have or that he won a ws he didnt deserve to get in. but i have had that argument before with my cousin. he loves kirby and minny is his 2nd fav team.

[Snoogans]

I still dont know how he got in? I dont care that he retired sooner then he should have or that he won a ws he didnt deserve to get in. but i have had that argument before with my cousin. he loves kirby and minny is his 2nd fav team.

kirby was an asshole. And he shouldnt be in. but he is, and if he is in, mattingly shoulda been first fuckin ballot

[Snacks]

kirby was an asshole. And he shouldnt be in. but he is, and if he is in, mattingly shoulda been first fuckin ballot

as someone here has said before "2 wrongs dont make it right" so i will disagree with you on that.

i dont remember kirby being a bad guy? what did you hear or why dont you like him personally? the only thing i didnt like about him was that he got in when he shouldnt have.

[Snoogans]

as someone here has said before "2 wrongs dont make it right" so i will disagree with you on that.

i dont remember kirby being a bad guy? what did you hear or why dont you like him personally? the only thing i didnt like about him was that he got in when he shouldnt have.

he got arrested for beating his wife

[Snacks]

he got arrested for beating his wife

didnt know/remember that.

[Snoogans]

However, Puckett's good guy persona began to erode in the years before his death. In March 2002, a woman filed an order for protection against Puckett's wife Tonya, alleging that Tonya had threatened to kill her over an alleged affair with Puckett. That month, another woman asked for protection from Puckett, saying in court documents that she had had an 18-year relationship with him and that he had shoved her in his Bloomington condominium. Then on September 5, he was arrested and charged with groping a woman in a restroom at Redstone American Grill in Eden Prairie, Minnesota. A witness testified that he saw Puckett drag a woman into the bathroom at the restaurant, and that she appeared terrified when she came out moments later. The alleged victim claimed Puckett squeezed her hard enough to cause a bruise. Puckett was subsequently charged with false imprisonment, a felony; fifth-degree criminal sexual conduct, a gross misdemeanor; and fifth-degree assault, a misdemeanor.[30] Puckett was acquitted.[31] After a nine-day trial, a jury ruled Puckett not guilty of all counts. However, the damage had been done and he felt compelled to relinquish his role as Twins executive vice president.

[epo]

However, Puckett's good guy persona began to erode in the years before his death. In March 2002, a woman filed an order for protection against Puckett's wife Tonya, alleging that Tonya had threatened to kill her over an alleged affair with Puckett. That month, another woman asked for protection from Puckett, saying in court documents that she had had an 18-year relationship with him and that he had shoved her in his Bloomington condominium. Then on September 5, he was arrested and charged with groping a woman in a restroom at Redstone American Grill in Eden Prairie, Minnesota. A witness testified that he saw Puckett drag a woman into the bathroom at the restaurant, and that she appeared terrified when she came out moments later. The alleged victim claimed Puckett squeezed her hard enough to cause a bruise. Puckett was subsequently charged with false imprisonment, a felony; fifth-degree criminal sexual conduct, a gross misdemeanor; and fifth-degree assault, a misdemeanor.[30] Puckett was acquitted.[31] After a nine-day trial, a jury ruled Puckett not guilty of all counts. However, the damage had been done and he felt compelled to relinquish his role as Twins executive vice president.

When Kirby played, his image was amazing. As years have passed, it's come out that he was an incredible douche.

[cougarjake13]

Who the fuck is voting for bill mueller or castilla

[Earlshog]

Who the fuck is voting for bill mueller or castilla

ha-ha I am outraged Bill Mueller got more votes than Brad Radke! :furious:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

1 Vote for Javy Lopez? What gives

[WRESTLINGFAN]

FFFUUUUCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7446844/mlb-commissioner-bud-selig-offered-two-year-extension-contract-source-says

[TripleSkeet]

FFFUUUUCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7446844/mlb-commissioner-bud-selig-offered-two-year-extension-contract-source-says

That motherfucker gets $22 million a year, and people have the balls to complain about the players contracts???????

[A.J.]

That motherfucker gets $22 million a year, and people have the balls to complain about the players contracts???????

And a private jet.

[epo]

FFFUUUUCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7446844/mlb-commissioner-bud-selig-offered-two-year-extension-contract-source-says

Wisconsin-awesome!

[Snoogans]

Wisconsin-awesome!

The Packers are gonna lose cause god will be mad that selig makes 22 million dollars a year



Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK. If David Stern makes anything near that im gonna fuckin kill someone

[cougarjake13]

What a waste of money

[epo]

The Packers are gonna lose cause god will be mad that selig makes 22 million dollars a year

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK. If David Stern makes anything near that im gonna fuckin kill someone

Apparently Roger Rules makes $10MM, and the rumor was that Stern was pulling down $23MM

[cougarjake13]

Wow

If Betman makes that much also we need to seriously look into this shit

[Snoogans]

Apparently Roger Rules makes $10MM, and the rumor was that Stern was pulling down $23MM

GODDAMMIT THAT HAS TO BE SOME BULLSHIT

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nothing on Fielder not even rumors.

I think we'll hear more once Darvish is signed.

[CountryBob]

Damn - I wish the Braves will do something to help their terrible batting avg. for the past 10 fucking years.

How can a team keep sucking so bad at hitting year after year?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The NL East is looking like the toughest division now

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Boras wants 15MM per year for Edwin Jackson


Yankees say fuck that


ttp://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/yankees-finding-pitcher-edwin-jackson-pricey-article-1.1005597

[Jujubees2]

The NL East is looking like the toughest division now

Did the Mets switch divisions?

[realmenhatelife]

Did the Mets switch divisions?

No, they're just the Orioles.

[cougarjake13]

No, they're just the Orioles.


I'd say they're worse

[spoon]

I'd say they're worse

no way

[walking joint]

read Yankees traded Montero for Pineda from Seattle.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yanks sign Hiroki Kuroda

[WRESTLINGFAN]

read Yankees traded Montero for Pineda from Seattle.

Maybe this will make up for the Jay Buhner deal

[HBox]

read Yankees traded Montero for Pineda from Seattle.

My first instinct was NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After thinking about it a bit I'm a little less concerned. I still think that the Yanks need a young bat but at least it's exciting prospect for exciting prospect.

[walking joint]

i like it overall...easier to fill the DH spot then get a good/cheap/young #2. the lineup is old and needs a bat, but i like the deal.

[Snoogans]

My first instinct was NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After thinking about it a bit I'm a little less concerned. I still think that the Yanks need a young bat but at least it's exciting prospect for exciting prospect.

i think you coulda done alot better. Not that this is terrible or anything, but i think you coulda come up with a package to do better

[walking joint]

Yanks have a real logjam now at the back end of the rotation. AJ/Hughes/Garcia

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My first instinct was NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After thinking about it a bit I'm a little less concerned. I still think that the Yanks need a young bat but at least it's exciting prospect for exciting prospect.

Same here. Pineda was 9-10 dont let the record scare ya, he had an ERA under 4
With some better offense he could be a 15 game winner

[razorboy]

Right-handed pitcher with high fly ball tendencies in that stadium in this division? I was never particularly high on Montero, but Pineda comes with his own set of concerns. Beyond brutal mechanics too.

[Kevin]

We shall see what happens..

This kid has ability but you never know with these young pitchers..

[Tenbatsuzen]

NoMaas summed it up - The Yankees don't think he can catch. So they saw him as a DH and therefore was expendable.

[Snoogans]

NoMaas summed it up - The Yankees don't think he can catch. So they saw him as a DH and therefore was expendable.

i think you coulda done better

[Tenbatsuzen]

i think you coulda done better

I agree, but Romine's waiting in the wings. (and he can actually catch, but the bat is nowhere as good as Montero's) Yankees decided they needed pitching. But now there's an ABUNDANCE of pitching. So who knows.

[Snoogans]

I agree, but Romine's waiting in the wings. (and he can actually catch, but the bat is nowhere as good as Montero's) Yankees decided they needed pitching. But now there's an ABUNDANCE of pitching. So who knows.

especially if you dummies give 15 mill a year to edwin jackson


Why are you even talkin to him?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yanks have a real logjam now at the back end of the rotation. AJ/Hughes/Garcia

Nova too. It's like everyone's forgetting about Nova, the guy won 16 games last year!

AJ's done. He's either in the Pen or will be released.

[Snoogans]

Yanks have a real logjam now at the back end of the rotation. AJ/Hughes/Garcia

I agree, but Romine's waiting in the wings. (and he can actually catch, but the bat is nowhere as good as Montero's) Yankees decided they needed pitching. But now there's an ABUNDANCE of pitching. So who knows.

and add on Hiroki Kuroda:

The New York Yankees have added former Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Hiroki Kuroda to their suddenly deep rotation, sources confirmed. The deal is for one year and $10 million, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.

Combined with the blockbuster trade with the Seattle Mariners for 22-year-old Michael Pineda, the Yankees have reconstructed their rotation. Ace CC Sabathia will likely be followed by Pineda, Ivan Nova, Kuroda and then either Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett or Freddy Garcia.

im gonna go ahead and guess that AJ is gone, garcia will be a spot/emergency starter long reliever and hughes will go back to like 7th 8th inning type shit

[cougarjake13]

Nova too. It's like everyone's forgetting about Nova, the guy won 16 games last year!

AJ's done. He's either in the Pen or will be released.

No one forgot him
He said back end which means 3 4 5 with cc and nova being 1 2

[Kevin]

No one forgot him
He said back end which means 3 4 5 with cc and nova being 1 2

They are pegging this kid to be the 2 Nova 3 and Kuroda Hughes 4 5.


I'm a little weary of this deal because ace young pitchers aren't given away for just 1 top hitting prospect and a another pitcher. Especially one that is just turning 23.

Either Seattle is very stupid or they didn't think he will be that good.

[epo]

They are pegging this kid to be the 2 Nova 3 and Kuroda Hughes 4 5.


I'm a little weary of this deal because ace young pitchers aren't given away for just 1 top hitting prospect and a another pitcher. Especially one that is just turning 23.

Either Seattle is very stupid or they didn't think he will be that good.

Jack Zduriencik is the only man to win "Executive of the Year" in MLB while not being a general manager. Hardly a stupid man.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You know, the Austin Jackson trade seemed to work out pretty well for the Yankees. So I'll put my faith in Cashman that he knows what he's doing.

[HBox]

Jack Zduriencik is the only man to win "Executive of the Year" in MLB while not being a general manager. Hardly a stupid man.

He also could have had Montero and more in a package for Cliff Lee and instead preferred Justin Smoak.

[spoon]

Jack Zduriencik is the only man to win "Executive of the Year" in MLB while not being a general manager. Hardly a stupid man.

The M's need offense in a BIG way, while the Yanks seemingly need pitching at this point. Seems like a win win move to me, but we'll see.

[spoon]

You know, the Austin Jackson trade seemed to work out pretty well for the Yankees. So I'll put my faith in Cashman that he knows what he's doing.

for every "good move" cashman has made one can give 3 that were not

praise tebow cashman

[Kevin]

Jack Zduriencik is the only man to win "Executive of the Year" in MLB while not being a general manager. Hardly a stupid man.

Director of Scouting, 1999 to 2006, Milwaukee Brewers Special Assistant to the General Manager, 2006 to 2008, Milwaukee Brewers Director of Amateur Scouting, 2006 to 2008. Milwaukee Brewers Special Assistant to the GM for Player Personnel, 2008, Milwaukee Brewers.[2]


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Kevin]

You know, the Austin Jackson trade seemed to work out pretty well for the Yankees. So I'll put my faith in Cashman that he knows what he's doing.

for every "good move" cashman has made one can give 3 that were not

praise tebow cashman

Cashman has had a TERRIBLE track record with trades, especially when young SPs are involved.

Weaver, Vasquez etc.....

And then there is the handling of said young SPs...

This kid has ability but I do not trust Cashman when it comes to these type of moves.

And as good as I think Montero will be, this kid better damn well be a front line #1 starter.

[epo]

Director of Scouting, 1999 to 2006, Milwaukee Brewers Special Assistant to the General Manager, 2006 to 2008, Milwaukee Brewers Director of Amateur Scouting, 2006 to 2008. Milwaukee Brewers Special Assistant to the GM for Player Personnel, 2008, Milwaukee Brewers.[2]


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

So he didn't win MLB Executive of the Year?

Facts are just that, facts.

[spoon]

Cashman has had a TERRIBLE track record with trades, especially when young SPs are involved.

Weaver, Vasquez etc.....

And then there is the handling of said young SPs...

This kid has ability but I do not trust Cashman when it comes to these type of moves.

And as good as I think Montero will be, this kid better damn well be a front line #1 starter.

at least you're somewhat informed versus a tenbats homer

to me though, this one is a good risk simply bc it's harder to find a SP with this type upside and you gave up a piece you had no room for. yet you have to think Montero at DH/1B would be better over time than Arod as his roid free body comes down to earth and he ages at an exponential rate. Montero can clearly hit, and he'll only get better. He seemed perfect for yank stadium too since he could go the other way with power quite easily and hit that short porch.

Pineda has some great hits to inning ratio and WHIP for them last year. He also has some great heat and K numbers so early in his career. He can let loose with the Yanks to back him too. He's going to be very good there, unfortunately. That same short porch may hurt him though being a righty.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Moyer might make a comeback with Rockies


http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/321875-moyers-comeback-may-happen-in-the-rockies?xid=cnnbin

[cougarjake13]

Didn't he say he wanted to pitch at 50 ?

[realmenhatelife]

I loved Moyer in Philly, I wish we'd get him a shot at #5 over Kendrick.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ESPN Rports that cole hamel signs a 1 yr 15MM deal to stay with Philly.


Ellsbury to get 1 yr deal about 8.5 mm 1 yr for Bo Sox

[cougarjake13]

Fuck em both

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Should be interesting on how much Ortiz will get.

[cougarjake13]

Should be interesting on how much Ortiz will get.


Buck fitty

[A.J.]

Should be interesting on how much Ortiz will get.

It's already been done. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111207&content_id=26122924&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos)

Nevermind -- that was just an offer.

[cougarjake13]

And just think a few years ago they were tryin to get rid of him

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cards visit Obama minus Pujols and LaRussa


http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7472363/st-louis-cardinals-meet-president-barack-obama-minus-albert-pujols-tony-la-russa

[Earlshog]

Cards visit Obama minus Pujols and LaRussa


http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7472363/st-louis-cardinals-meet-president-barack-obama-minus-albert-pujols-tony-la-russa

Sounds like LaRussa and Pujlos are the only non socialist pinko commies on the squad

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sounds like LaRussa and Pujlos are the only non socialist pinko commies on the squad


They did go to 8/28

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Pujols-and-La-Russa-to-appear-at-Glenn-Beck-s-n?urn=mlb,265632

[epo]

They did go to 8/28

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Pujols-and-La-Russa-to-appear-at-Glenn-Beck-s-n?urn=mlb,265632

Exactly. Both are tin-foil hat weirdos.

Great hitter & manager, just lunatics about how the world works.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Maybe the devout christian Pujols didnt want to meet with the Muslim. :lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Tigers need a DH Martinez out for year. Magglio Ordonez probably wont be back


http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7472150/victor-martinez-detroit-tigers-tears-acl-likely-needs-season-ending-surgery

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cant blame Lincecum, Isnt Zito making the same amount?


http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7472789/tim-lincecum-asks-215m-arbitration-san-francisco-giants-offer-17m

[cougarjake13]

Cant blame Lincecum, Isnt Zito making the same amount?


http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7472789/tim-lincecum-asks-215m-arbitration-san-francisco-giants-offer-17m

I forget the exact numbers but I think was around 7 yrs 100 mil or somewhere thereabouts

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I forget the exact numbers but I think was around 7 yrs 100 mil or somewhere thereabouts

Im not sure which one is worse. Zito or Hampton. Both are fucking disasters

[newport king]

as a met fan, i want to know when its ok to check out. i'm tired of rooting for a team that never does ANYTHING right. And it's not going to get any better. I know as a man you can't just change teams. you're not allowed to do that, but god damn ive had it with these fuckin losers....i mean we're a solid 2-3 months away from the start of the season and im already annoyed.

[razorboy]

Rangers sign hurling Darvish to six year $60 million deal. (http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7476104/texas-rangers-sign-japanese-pitcher-yu-darvish-six-year-60-million-deal)

[cougarjake13]

Im not sure which one is worse. Zito or Hampton. Both are fucking disasters



If memory serves me correctly he was shitty in Colorado but had good years with Atlanta so not as bad as zito who's been shit since he left Oakland

[cougarjake13]

as a met fan, i want to know when its ok to check out. i'm tired of rooting for a team that never does ANYTHING right. And it's not going to get any better. I know as a man you can't just change teams. you're not allowed to do that, but god damn ive had it with these fuckin losers....i mean we're a solid 2-3 months away from the start of the season and im already annoyed.

I'm a lifelong mets fan and always will be

But while they're sucking ass I've been watching the rays ESP since I don't get the MLB package and most games I see are them
So it's not all bad

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If memory serves me correctly he was shitty in Colorado but had good years with Atlanta so not as bad as zito who's been shit since he left Oakland

I think he missed 2 years in Atl with an injury. Cant remember if it was Tommy John surgery or a shoulder problem.


I would have expected Zito to do better since he wouldnt have to face the DH except for Interleague

[hanso]

Rangers sign hurling Darvish to six year $60 million deal. (http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7476104/texas-rangers-sign-japanese-pitcher-yu-darvish-six-year-60-million-deal)

They said when this happens it should push Prince Fielder dealings along.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They said when this happens it should push Prince Fielder dealings along.

My prediction, Nationals

[realmenhatelife]

My prediction, Nationals

There was a story awhile ago about the Nat's front office saying it wasn't going to happen.

[cougarjake13]

I think he missed 2 years in Atl with an injury. Cant remember if it was Tommy John surgery or a shoulder problem.


I would have expected Zito to do better since he wouldnt have to face the DH except for InterleagueL

he did

But the first two yrs he was there he was good in 03 and 04 when he was 14-8 and 13-9 then he started 05 but got hurt and missed 06 and 07

[spoon]

Maybe the devout christian Pujols didnt want to meet with the Muslim. :lol:

it would be funny if you didn't actually at least half believe it deep down

and Pujols is a religious fucking nut and uses religion when he needs it...like when God told he and his wife to play for the Angels

[A.J.]

My prediction, Nationals

There was a story awhile ago about the Nat's front office saying it wasn't going to happen.

That's what they WANT you to think...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dominicans and lying about their age.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7480419/fausto-carmona-cleveland-indians-arrested-accused-using-false-identity

[Snoogans]

Dominicans and lying about their age.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7480419/fausto-carmona-cleveland-indians-arrested-accused-using-false-identity

i cracked up when i saw this story. My first thought was yawn, this shit happens all the time. Then i saw his real name. Now i just wanna know if he is some how related to the real King Felix (in my eyes anyway), Felix Heredia

[cougarjake13]

Why the fuck wuld any of them leave knowing they culd get popped

[newport king]

i get why they would lie about their age. (pujols looked about 30 in his rookie season.) but can someone explain why they assume a completely different name? to be honest if my family still lived in some 3rd world dump, i'd probably use a different name as well. kidnappings and being held for ransom is something alot of these guys seem to have to worry about.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Vlad Guerrero looks much older that 36, especially in the last few years when you would see him at bat, somebody get him an AARP card

[Snoogans]

i get why they would lie about their age. (pujols looked about 30 in his rookie season.) but can someone explain why they assume a completely different name? to be honest if my family still lived in some 3rd world dump, i'd probably use a different name as well. kidnappings and being held for ransom is something alot of these guys seem to have to worry about.

it makes it easier to falsify the documents. The name that they use that isnt real actually belongs to someone in the domincan who is the age they claim to be. Its not like a fake name, more like they steal someone else's and it makes it easier for them to get documents

[A.J.]

it makes it easier to falsify the documents. s

Hey, it worked for Obama!

[Snoogans]

Hey, it worked for Obama!

I heard obamas real name is Miguel Jesus Martinez. He isnt black, he is actually a spanish this whole time

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I heard obamas real name is Miguel Jesus Martinez. He isnt black, he is actually a spanish this whole time

Guess he aint muslim after all

[newport king]

i still dont get why its easier to get a visa under a false name than their real name.

[newport king]

nevermind reread snoogans post, so fausto carmona is a 28 yr old kid living in the dominican selling mangos and mr. heredia probably paid him a decent amount to use his birth certificate passing himself off as a 28yr old as opposed to a 31 yr old.

[Snoogans]

nevermind reread snoogans post, so fausto carmona is a 28 yr old kid living in the dominican selling mangos and mr. heredia probably paid him a decent amount to use his birth certificate passing himself off as a 28yr old as opposed to a 31 yr old.

something like that. Im not sure about the payoffs or if they just steal it or how anything works but yea, there is someone who is in DR named Fausto Carmona who is 28, most likely. Not a fake made up thing

[Snoogans]

Hey, it worked for Obama!

I heard obamas real name is Miguel Jesus Martinez. He isnt black, he is actually a spanish this whole time

Guess he aint muslim after all

i really hope some right wing nutjob sees this and puts it on some crazy right wing nuts messageboard and people start to believe it

[A.J.]

I heard obamas real name is Miguel Jesus Martinez. He isnt black, he is actually a spanish this whole time

Well we know he isn't Dominican by the way he throws out first pitches.

[Snoogans]

Well we know he isn't Dominican by the way he throws out first pitches.

HA. He is prob mexican. If they woulda let him kick the pitch it woulda been perfect

[hanso]

Well we know he isn't Dominican by the way he throws out first pitches.

But he sings Al Green, could be a hybrid.

[hanso]

My prediction, Nationals

There was a story awhile ago about the Nat's front office saying it wasn't going to happen.

My guess, the Cubs make a play for him.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My guess, the Cubs make a play for him.

I can see that, but I think he will ask for an opt out clause, especially if its with the Cubs, just in case after 3 years they are not contenders in the NL Central, He'll be 30 still in his prime and gunning for a new monster contract

[cougarjake13]

I can see that, but I think he will ask for an opt out clause, especially if its with the Cubs, just in case after 3 years they are not contenders in the NL Central, He'll be 30 still in his prime and gunning for a new monster contract


There might be quite a few teams who might be interested in a 3 yr deal

[Gvac]

My Reds have been fairly busy this offseason, getting a quality starter (Mat Latos), a closer (Ryan Madson) and a back up outfielder (Ryan Ludwick.)

Those were their major objectives, but I still wish they had a bona fide leadoff man.

I guess they're content to let Brandon Phillips continue batting there, as he did for the last 6 weeks of the season.

For some unknown reason, Dusty insisted on keeping Drew Stubbs in that spot for most of the season, even though he struck out over 200 times and batted .240

[Kevin]

For some unknown reason, Dusty insisted on keeping Drew Stubbs in that spot for most of the season, even though he struck out over 200 times and batted .240

I know the reason.

He is a terrible manager..

[Gvac]

I know the reason.

He is a terrible manager..

He does A LOT of things that make me scratch my head.

Dusty's a big believer in letting a guy work his way out of a slump, even if that slump is 4 months long.

[epo]

My Reds have been fairly busy this offseason, getting a quality starter (Mat Latos), a closer (Ryan Madson) and a back up outfielder (Ryan Ludwick.)

Those were their major objectives, but I still wish they had a bona fide leadoff man.

I guess they're content to let Brandon Phillips continue batting there, as he did for the last 6 weeks of the season.

For some unknown reason, Dusty insisted on keeping Drew Stubbs in that spot for most of the season, even though he struck out over 200 times and batted .240

So what's the over/under on how long it takes for Dusty to ruin Latos?

[Gvac]

I get all the Reds games here in Tennessee (as well as the Braves) so I watched at least 120 of 'em last season.

It's such a treat to be able to regularly see the team I've rooted for since I was 7 years old.

[Gvac]

So what's the over/under on how long it takes for Dusty to ruin Latos?

DON'T START!!!

[Kevin]

So what's the over/under on how long it takes for Dusty to ruin Latos?

I give it 4 months.

[epo]

DON'T START!!!

I give it 4 months.

So we have guesses of 4 months and won't even make a start.

Any others?

[hanso]

I know the reason.

He is a terrible manager..

This ^

[Gvac]

So we have guesses of 4 months and won't even make a start.

Any others?

Very funny.

I saw your shameless drug addicted outfielder accepted the MVP award last night.

You must be very proud.

[Kevin]

So we have guesses of 4 months and won't even make a start.

Any others?

HA!

[Kevin]

Very funny.

I saw your shameless drug addicted outfielder accepted the MVP award last night.

You must be very proud.

Oh hush now G.

You KNOW that that entire 90 red team ESPECIALLY the nasty boys were on roids.

[Gvac]

Oh hush now G.

You KNOW that that entire 90 red team ESPECIALLY the nasty boys were on roids.

Lies!

[epo]

Lies!

I'll be damned if Rob Dibble wasn't the face of Roid Rage.

[sailor]

So what's the over/under on how long it takes for Dusty to ruin Latos?

hey, dusty's great with developing young pitchers. just look at, oh, um...

[hanso]

Very funny.

I saw your shameless drug addicted outfielder accepted the MVP award last night.

You must be very proud.

made via performance-enhancers

[cougarjake13]

So we have guesses of 4 months and won't even make a start.

Any others?



5 months

[sailor]

assuming dusty doesn't come back next year, he should be fine.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Red Sox ship Scutaro off to the rockies.

Less than a month before pitchers and catchers report along with Fielder not being signed other key Free agents are Matsui, Damon, Oswalt, Pudge

[Earlshog]

Red Sox ship Scutaro off to the rockies.

Less than a month before pitchers and catchers report along with Fielder not being signed other key Free agents are Matsui, Damon, Oswalt, Pudge

in 2006:tongue:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Heard reason why they traded Scutaro was to sign Oswalt.


He wouldnt be good in the AL as he is a more control pitcher.

[Snoogans]

Heard reason why they traded Scutaro was to sign Oswalt.


He wouldnt be good in the AL as he is a more control pitcher.

Also, they traded lowrie to Oakland in that deal for Bailey i think. I know they definately traded him somewhere. now they traded scuturo. WHO THE FUCK IS PLAYING SS?

[Earlshog]

Also, they traded lowrie to Oakland in that deal for Bailey i think. I know they definately traded him somewhere. now they traded scuturo. WHO THE FUCK IS PLAYING SS?

Are they still paying Julio Lugo?

[Snoogans]

Are they still paying Julio Lugo?

no they shipped him out like 3 years ago. unless they have some kid i dont know about, they aint got shit.

never shoulda let orlando cabrera go

[cougarjake13]

I think his name is Iglesias whose gonna play short

[Jujubees2]

Also, they traded lowrie to Oakland in that deal for Bailey i think. I know they definately traded him somewhere. now they traded scuturo. WHO THE FUCK IS PLAYING SS?

I think Lowrie went to Houston in the Melancon deal. He wasn't the answer at short as he would always get hurt.

[Snoogans]

I think Lowrie went to Houston in the Melancon deal. He wasn't the answer at short as he would always get hurt.

i get that. my point is, we didnt get one. so i have no idea who is playin it.


SIGN PRINCE FIELDER. fuck papi. sign prince and put him at DH and give papi to someone for a prospect

[cougarjake13]

i get that. my point is, we didnt get one. so i have no idea who is playin it.


SIGN PRINCE FIELDER. fuck papi. sign prince and put him at DH and give papi to someone for a prospect

Orca major league as or ml ready ss

[Earlshog]

They can get Hanley back, should be around week three of the season that whole thing falls apart.

[Snoogans]

They can get Hanley back, should be around week three of the season that whole thing falls apart.

he is a scumbag though

[Jujubees2]

They can get Hanley back, should be around week three of the season that whole thing falls apart.

he is a scumbag though

Besides I think the Sox are looking for a cheaper option at SS since it will most likely be a one-year thing as they hope Jose Iglesias will have found some offense by then.

[Earlshog]

he is a scumbag though

so was Manny, hes got two rings....

[Kevin]

so was Manny, hes got two rings....

I wouldn't call Manny a scumbag.

His team mates loved him, plus he was a hell of alot better than Hanley.

[Snoogans]

Besides I think the Sox are looking for a cheaper option at SS since it will most likely be a one-year thing as they hope Jose Iglesias will have found some offense by then.

253/278/253


i dont want any part of Iglesias. Even in MLB the Show he was fuckin terrible

[Earlshog]

I wouldn't call Manny a scumbag.

His team mates loved him, plus he was a hell of alot better than Hanley.

Wife beater, cheater, prima donna he could characterized as a scumbag.

[Snoogans]

Wife beater, cheater, prima donna he could characterized as a scumbag.

as a person. i meant as a player. hanley was adick to the other guys on the team, coaches, shit like that. He messed up the locker room. manny was a jackass but he always was loved in the locker room by his team. he didnt upset the shit

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They should change back to the Colt 45's since TX is gun friendly



http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7494785/new-houston-astros-owner-jim-crane-mulls-name-uniform-change

[A.J.]

The Houston Refugees -- after the swarms of people who went there after Hurricane Katrina.

[cougarjake13]

Houston black gold ?

Or just steal the oilers name

[A.J.]

Houston Zods.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/nate3092/SupermanII.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Posada steps down



This was from a commenter on espn's article. Great player but not a hall of famer


"Very good player. Even better guy. Will be missed. Probably not a HOF'er though. Only 1664 hits, 275 HR, 1065 RBI, and an average of .273. No gold gloves at a defensively important position also hurt his case. He is in the same HOF discussion as Bernie Williams, Dale Murphey, Dave Parker, and Alan Trammell: Good players, good guys, but not quite great enough...."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like Lincecum is getting a huge payday. 2 Years a little over 40MM

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fielder to Tigers

http://tracking.si.com/2012/01/24/report-prince-fielder-nearing-nine-year-deal-with-detroit-tigers/


Where does that put Cabrera now? Maybe back to Third?

[realmenhatelife]

Fielder to Tigers

http://tracking.si.com/2012/01/24/report-prince-fielder-nearing-nine-year-deal-with-detroit-tigers/


Where does that put Cabrera now? Maybe back to Third?


Can't be...


My prediction, Nationals

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can't be...

I was wrong on that. Wrong league too


didn't want that. I was hoping he stay in NL.

[realmenhatelife]

I was wrong on that. Wrong league too


didn't want that. I was hoping he stay in NL.

I'm happy to only be seeing that monster in the home run derby from now on. And he's going to turn into a whale on the DH.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ironic that he goes to a team that his gambling father played for

[Gvac]

Once again, an unknown team comes in and grabs the prize.

Just like with Pujols.

This morning all reports said the finalists for Fielder were the Nats, O's, and Rangers.

[Earlshog]

Nice move by Detroit. 214 Mil is a lot of dough, gotta piss with the big boys I guess

How would you like to face Miggy and Fielder back to back... add V-Mart to the mix in 2013Wow!

[razorboy]

The Tigers will break 2013 spring training with three DHs, two of which are morbidly obese and the other coming off of major knee surgery. They're going to have to eat a considerable amount of his salary if they expect Martinez to garner any interest on the trade market.

On a related note Gonzalez at 7/150million and Bautista at 5/65million are looking like steals. As much as I dislike Boras, but the man knows how to do right by his clients.

[Snacks]

Once again, an unknown team comes in and grabs the prize.

Just like with Pujols.

This morning all reports said the finalists for Fielder were the Nats, O's, and Rangers.

its so nice to see the media look stupid and not know what they are talking about!

i would have liked him to stay in mlw but it would have been nice to see him play on the nats, cubs or even tex. oh well, i wonder if he and his dad will now have a better relationship?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Austin Jackson is going to need to step up. He K's too much and if he keeps it up thats a lot of runs that will be lost even with Prince in that lineup


I think Cabrera will move to the outfield/DH Inge is decent at 3rd

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Tigers will break 2013 spring training with three DHs, two of which are morbidly obese and the other coming off of major knee surgery. They're going to have to eat a considerable amount of his salary if they expect Martinez to garner any interest on the trade market.

On a related note Gonzalez at 7/150million and Bautista at 5/65million are looking like steals. As much as I dislike Boras, but the man knows how to do right by his clients.

Boras is the Ari Gold of sports agents

[hanso]

They can get Hanley back, should be around week three of the season that whole thing falls apart.

Popi for Hanley?



The break before around the horn stated Prince choose Det. And he will share DH with Maggs.

[cougarjake13]

Popi for Hanley?



The break before around the horn stated Prince choose Det. And he will share DH with Maggs.


Big Papi ain't playing first full time

[newport king]

It wouldve been so fuckin awesome if AJ Burnett pie faced Jorge while he sobbed thru his retirement speech

[hanso]

Boston Red Sox and free-agent outfielder Cody Ross agree to contract -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/boston-red-sox-and-free-agent-outfielder-cody-ross-agree-to-contract/2012/01/24/gIQAHedjMQ_story.html


Thought he showed flash at times with Fla, not a bad pick up.

[newport king]

Hes a 4th outfielder. But forget Florida, he owned with the Giants in the world series

[hanso]

Hes a 4th outfielder. But forget Florida, he owned with the Giants in the world series

Meant to add this as well.

[Kevin]

Ive said before.

Its just despicable how much the Yankees are spending.

They have signed everyone.

[A.J.]

Boston Red Sox and free-agent outfielder Cody Ross agree to contract -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/boston-red-sox-and-free-agent-outfielder-cody-ross-agree-to-contract/2012/01/24/gIQAHedjMQ_story.html


Thought he showed flash at times with Fla, not a bad pick up.

This is one of those Bill Mueller/Kevin Millar/Gabe Kapler/Eric Hinske moves. Not bad at all.

[Earlshog]

Austin Jackson is going to need to step up. He K's too much and if he keeps it up thats a lot of runs that will be lost even with Prince in that lineup


I think Cabrera will move to the outfield/DH Inge is decent at 3rd


Cabrera will move to third.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cabrera will move to third.

Hopefully he will look like the Cabrera of 2003. He has gotten quite portly

[joeyballsack]

Hes a 4th outfielder. But forget Florida, he owned with the Giants in the world series

I am pretty sure he is going to be the starting right fielder this year. Drew is about to retire and they traded Josh Reddick.

[newport king]

I am pretty sure he is going to be the starting right fielder this year. Drew is about to retire and they traded Josh Reddick.

thats pretty bad then.

[Gvac]

Hey spoon - have fun watching Cordero blow leads for Toronto this season!

[hanso]

thats pretty bad then.

How is it? He is as good as those others no?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like Carter doesnt have much time left. Before he came to NY The only time to see him was either the All star game or the NBC Game of the week. As a Yankee fan I thought he was a great catcher


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jeff_pearlman/01/23/gary.carter/index.html

[Earlshog]

Looks like Carter doesnt have much time left. Before he came to NY The only time to see him was either the All star game or the NBC Game of the week. As a Yankee fan I thought he was a great catcher


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jeff_pearlman/01/23/gary.carter/index.html

That’s really sad life can really suck. As a Phillies fan as a kid I hated him cause he was with the Mets. I met him at a Datek event in like 2002 and talked to him for around 10 minutes, what a great guy.

[cougarjake13]

Really sux I was hoping he'd be mets mgr eventually

[Earlshog]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7505959/washington-nationals-sign-reliever-brad-lidge-one-year-deal?eleven=twelve

Brad Lidge will again be pitching for an NL East team in 2012 but it won't be for Philadelphia.

The Phillies' former closer signed a one-year deal with the Washington Nationals on Thursday. The contract pays him $1 million, plus incentives.

For one mil the Phils should have brought him back. He piched well last year when he was healthy at the end of the season.

[cougarjake13]

They must not have even called him for an offer

[Earlshog]

They must not have even called him for an offer

I guess. I wonder why the Mets didn't grab him? They don't have a closer, are they that destitute?

[realmenhatelife]

I guess. I wonder why the Mets didn't grab him? They don't have a closer, are they that destitute?

Maybe they're not anticipating having games that close. But I dont think Lidge can close anymore.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of NYM


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/7495383/new-york-mets-largest-payroll-dropoff-ever

[newport king]

How is it? He is as good as those others no?

Well, the mets were talking about possibly adding him as a 4th outfielder, and we're the laughing stock of mlb...then again bobby v gets the most out of marginal players see b. agbayani & timo perez

[newport king]

Speaking of NYM


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/7495383/new-york-mets-largest-payroll-dropoff-ever

the day after opening day, i hope no one goes to that shrine to the Brooklyn Dodgers they call home, and are forced into selling the team amid bankruptcy. hopefully Selig steps in at some point. I'm so disgusted by this ownership. It has nothing to do with not resigning Reyes who will be playing for the Yankees in 2-3 years. And not NEARLY worth the money they will be paying him. They just can't do a god damn thing right. Ever.

How is Mark Cuban not allowed into MLB ownership yet the Wilpon family who have brought nothing but embarrassment to this franchise allowed to still own this team? :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash: :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[hanso]

Well, the mets were talking about possibly adding him as a 4th outfielder, and we're the laughing stock of mlb...then again bobby v gets the most out of marginal players see b. agbayani & timo perez

Glad to see him back, One of my all time Fav. skippers.

[Snoogans]

I guess. I wonder why the Mets didn't grab him? They don't have a closer, are they that destitute?

the mets signed a closer. Frank Francisco from texas

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the day after opening day, i hope no one goes to that shrine to the Brooklyn Dodgers they call home, and are forced into selling the team amid bankruptcy. hopefully Selig steps in at some point. I'm so disgusted by this ownership. It has nothing to do with not resigning Reyes who will be playing for the Yankees in 2-3 years. And not NEARLY worth the money they will be paying him. They just can't do a god damn thing right. Ever.

How is Mark Cuban not allowed into MLB ownership yet the Wilpon family who have brought nothing but embarrassment to this franchise allowed to still own this team? :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash: :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:



Selig doesn't want an owner thats going to publicly speak out and criticize the umpires, the commissioner etc like how he does in the NBA.


Saying that Selig's a douche and Cuban should be allowed to purchase the Mets if he wanted to

[spoon]

the mets signed a closer. Frank Francisco from texas

from toronto (was traded to Toronto last year)

they also signed Rauch from Toronto too...both failed badly last year with the Jays, yet FF was looking better in the second half

[spoon]

Ive said before.

Its just despicable how much the Yankees are spending.

They have signed everyone.

and as I said before they don't have to as they are EASILY the highest paid team in every direction, at every level and reupped with CC with huge money too

just stop with this complete bullshit and this ignorant take on salaries simply bc NY isn't signing everyone in every year...especially since most of the talent with a bat doesn't fit your team at 1st/dh being that they are locked in to the tune of hundreds of millions of $ (Arod/Tex)

[spoon]

Hey spoon - have fun watching Cordero blow leads for Toronto this season!

Hey gvac, have fun watching Cordero as a one inning max guy in the 7th or 8th as a setup to Santos. They have done an outstanding job rebuilding their bullpen, and they will surely be using Cordero in a different way than in the past.

Oh and since when did Toronto ever have that many leads to blow since 93?

[epo]

Hey gvac, have fun watching Cordero as a one inning max guy in the 7th or 8th as a setup to Santos. They have done an outstanding job rebuilding their bullpen, and they will surely be using Cordero in a different way than in the past.

Oh and since when did Toronto ever have that many leads to blow since 93?

Facts are hurtful to Greg. Plus he's already mourning the loss of Votto near year via free agency.

[Gvac]

Hey gvac, have fun watching Cordero as a one inning max guy in the 7th or 8th as a setup to Santos. They have done an outstanding job rebuilding their bullpen, and they will surely be using Cordero in a different way than in the past.

Oh and since when did Toronto ever have that many leads to blow since 93?

I know that they won't be using him as a closer like Cincy did, that's why I said he'd blow LEADS, not WINS.

I just think he's shot.

[Gvac]

Facts are hurtful to Greg. Plus he's already mourning the loss of Votto near year via free agency.

My Tigers will more than make up for any failings by the Reds!

[disneyspy]

WTF! they are my fucking tigers! AND MY FUCKING RED WINGS! i gave you the pissed ons and the lie ons THATS IT!!

[Gvac]

I've been a Wings fan my whole life, Diz.

And I love that Illitch is going all out to win a Series before he dies.

I gotta root for them.

[epo]

WTF! they are my fucking tigers! AND MY FUCKING RED WINGS! i gave you the pissed ons and the lie ons THATS IT!!

See what's happening Disney?

Teams get good, and here comes Bandwagon Greg!

[disneyspy]

See what's happening Disney?

Teams get good, and here comes Bandwagon Greg!

fucking band wagons,i bet he's just sittin up there playing his giutar and waitin for someone to start playing the organ so they can get goin on the parade route

[disneyspy]

kind sucks that v mart is out for the season and pitchers and catchers havent even reported yet

i dont want to talk about the world series,last time the tigs were picked to win it was probably the most dissapointing season ive ever watched

[A.J.]

And I love that Illitch is going all out to win a Series before he dies.

It's hard to believe he's 82 years old with a head of hair like that.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/01/26/Fielder-This-is-kind-of-a-dream-come-true-D6TA3BB-x-large.jpg

[Snoogans]

from toronto (was traded to Toronto last year)

they also signed Rauch from Toronto too...both failed badly last year with the Jays, yet FF was looking better in the second half

i just remember him on texas when he threw that chair into the crowd

[newport king]

I hope he does it again and the sound echoes when it hits the ground because no one is there

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like Oswalt to sign with Cards

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7512382/source-roy-oswalt-likely-sign-st-louis-cardinals-soon

[hanso]

It's hard to believe he's 82 years old with a head of hair like that.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/01/26/Fielder-This-is-kind-of-a-dream-come-true-D6TA3BB-x-large.jpg

When I saw the video clip of this couldn't turn away from watching whats on top of old dudes head.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's hard to believe he's 82 years old with a head of hair like that.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/01/26/Fielder-This-is-kind-of-a-dream-come-true-D6TA3BB-x-large.jpg

He looks like Don Sutton 20 years from now

[Earlshog]

It's hard to believe he's 82 years old with a head of hair like that.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/01/26/Fielder-This-is-kind-of-a-dream-come-true-D6TA3BB-x-large.jpg

he's got his arm around doughboy from Boyz in da hood.

[Earlshog]

http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/34628481

Pat the bat to retire...

Will always get love from me as he was an important part of the Phillies returning to respectability and reaching the pinnacle with a world series victory. Happy trails Pat!

[realmenhatelife]

http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/34628481

Pat the bat to retire...

Will always get love from me as he was an important part of the Phillies returning to respectability and reaching the pinnacle with a world series victory. Happy trails Pat!

Also the man behind the gimp outfit, and supposedly known to pick up a dude or two at the gay bars in his day.

[Earlshog]

Also the man behind the gimp outfit, and supposedly known to pick up a dude or two at the gay bars in his day.

when my Cousin was in college 2002 - 2003ish Burrell hit on his chick at a bar in philly (and she was hot, an Eagles cheerleader) when she rebuffed him he said " i don't think you understand, I'm Pat Burrell" lol

[Earlshog]

Looks like Oswalt to sign with Cards

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7512382/source-roy-oswalt-likely-sign-st-louis-cardinals-soon

I love the comment

A rotation of Lewis, Darvish, Holland, Harrison, Oswalt, Ogando, Feliz and Feldman would be pretty formidable. The best eight-man rotation in baseball.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7517158/sources-roy-oswalt-meets-texas-rangers-monday

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Livan Hernandez to sign Minor League deal with Astros.

[cougarjake13]

Livan Hernandez to sign Minor League deal with Astros.



Wow I can't believe he's still pitching

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Still some key free agents unsigned like Vlad, Damon, Matsui and Ibanez



Yanks should go for Damon. Can be the full time DH and play LF occasionally

[cougarjake13]

I wouldn't consider that list key unless we ve time traveled back to 2005

[Earlshog]

Still some key free agents unsigned like Vlad, Damon, Matsui and Ibanez



Yanks should go for Damon. Can be the full time DH and play LF occasionally


Its true the Yanks really need to get older. :wink:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Its a DH Position, Plus it wont be a huge contract with multi years

[brettmojo]

They've retained Jones. They really don't need to tie up the dh position anymore.

[Earlshog]

Its a DH Position, Plus it wont be a huge contract with multi years

They have enough geezers who are gonna DH.

[Gvac]

The Nationals signed Edwin Jackson to a one year deal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Nationals signed Edwin Jackson to a one year deal

Wonder how much he got. Boras is his agent

[razorboy]

A Ranger relapse: Hamilton hits the hooch. (http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7535200/texas-rangers-outfielder-josh-hamilton-relapse-alcohol)

[Gvac]

Wonder how much he got. Boras is his agent

1 year, $10 million.

[Gvac]

A Ranger relapse: Hamilton hits the hooch. (http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7535200/texas-rangers-outfielder-josh-hamilton-relapse-alcohol)

Wow.

I hope that doesn't start him on a downward spiral.

Talk about all the talent in the world.

[cougarjake13]

A Ranger relapse: Hamilton hits the hooch. (http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/7535200/texas-rangers-outfielder-josh-hamilton-relapse-alcohol)



Heard it was the second time too

[A.J.]

The Nationals signed Edwin Jackson to a one year deal

If they could get another big bat, this team is looking pretty good.

[Earlshog]

If they could get another big bat, this team is looking pretty good.

If Espinosa and Ramos progress, Werth benefits from a bump in the lineup and a full year of Zimmerman, LaRoche returns and can put up 25 HR 90 RBI, Morse does it again, it's not a bad line up. Sure they could use a big bat, but who couldn't.


Rotation and Pen are solid. Some nice prospects. Things are on the up in D.C.

All this while Baltimore contines to languish.

[Gvac]

Aside from the Mutts, the NL East is looking terrifying.

[Earlshog]

Aside from the Mutts, the NL East is looking terrifying.

it really is.... I hoping for a Marlins implosion.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who loses the most games? Mets or Astros?

[CountryBob]

Shouldnt this be in a 2012 MLB thread now?

[A.J.]

Shouldnt this be in a 2012 MLB thread now?

D'oh. I need glasses.

[Earlshog]

Who loses the most games? Mets or Astros?

whats up with Santana?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

whats up with Santana?

I know according to baseballreference.com hes going to make 24MM This year

[Earlshog]

I know according to baseballreference.com hes going to make 24MM This year

if the Mets were smart they would defer that contract... They could make more in interest investing with.... oh wait ......

[WRESTLINGFAN]

hamilton: "i had a weak moment monday night.'' said he had "3 or 4'' drinks -- JonHeymanCBS (@JonHeymanCBS)

[realmenhatelife]

hamilton: "i had a weak moment monday night.'' said he had "3 or 4'' drinks -- JonHeymanCBS (@JonHeymanCBS)

I dont understand why a guy who is publicly and vocally sober would drink in a bar.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Will be interesting if they still plan to sign him to an extension. Maybe they trade him to DC ?

[sailor]

I dont understand why a guy who is publicly and vocally sober would drink in a bar.

He has a problem?

[spoon]

Who loses the most games? Mets or Astros?

astros

[spoon]

He has a problem?

was about to say the same thing

no sure how that's not obvious and where you where you fall off the wagon isn't key



unless you're Dspy since his bones are so brittle

[cougarjake13]

Who loses the most games? Mets or Astros?

Astros by 1

55 to 54

[cougarjake13]

whats up with Santana?



Might pitch who knows who even cares

[spoon]

Who loses the most games? Mets or Astros?

Astros by 1

55 to 54

WOW!

107-55 to 108-54...you might want to reread that one! I assume you meant that to be their win totals, not losses. I also think the Mets win around 72, not 50's range bad. Houston, well yah 55 sounds about right.

[HBox]

WOW!

107-55 to 108-54...you might want to reread that one! I assume you meant that to be their win totals, not losses. I also think the Mets win around 72, not 50's range bad. Houston, well yah 55 sounds about right.

If the Mets and Astros go 107-55 and 108-54 the world really is coming to an end in 2012.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dont forget about Oakland, They are going to stink up the joint too. They go 62-100

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cashman has a stalker


http://news.yahoo.com/woman-accused-stalking-yankees-general-manager-205859439.html

[spoon]

11-2

the ultimate goal

[cougarjake13]

WOW!

107-55 to 108-54...you might want to reread that one! I assume you meant that to be their win totals, not losses. I also think the Mets win around 72, not 50's range bad. Houston, well yah 55 sounds about right.



yes their win totals

have you seen tghe mets rotation ? and lack of offense ??

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The new Reyes


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/jose-reyes-dreadlocks-trimmed-mlb-network-meet-miami-marlins-rules-article-1.1016890