~ 2012 MLB Off-Season Thread ~

[RingWraith]

I thought they did it for travel purposes and it was going forward

to me it's rewarding the lesser record team by giving them 2 games at home first

wait til the better record team has to go back home down 0-2 they're not gonna care that they get three in a row at home

2-2-1 is the most fair

I remember MLB did that in the 95 season of the first wildcard/divisional rounds. At the time I thought it was stupid giving the lower seed the first two games at their home ballpark. I still think it's stupid.

[deliciousV]

Reds into the bullpen after 1/3 inning! I shouldn't have cut my fingernails, need something to chew.

[deliciousV]

Dusty Baker just managed his way to a game 5, instead of throwing Latos against Zito today and trying to win, he saves him for game 5 against the Giants ace! And he marches out that homerun derby pitching machine Leake. Every move the Reds made today was conceding game 4.

[cougarjake13]

gonna be a nlcs matchup of the last 2 World Series champs

[keithy_19]

Ibanez!

[Kevin]

Its amazing how clutch Ibanez has been.

[LeedsJr]

Its amazing how clutch Ibanez has been.

You were saying? :laugh: :thumbup: :clap:

[Kevin]

Amazing.

[brettmojo]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fnnsX51WWnI/TMJesx7fi9I/AAAAAAAAABo/SEI524D9MK8/s1600/a-rod+sad.jpg

[Kevin]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/308029_290913947676142_1465457962_n.jpg

[MHasegawa]

stupid fuckin stephen drew, who gambles on running to third after getting an rbi double with no one out???

[Kevin]

stupid fuckin stephen drew, who gambles on running to third after getting an rbi double with no one out???

Stupid fucking Stephan drew does...

[MHasegawa]

Well.....no shit.

[Kevin]

There isn't a closer in the game that I love seeing blow saves than that hack Valvarde.

SUCK IT DISNEY!

[Kevin]

Why the hell werent they bunting him to 3rd there?

Stupid stupid...

[MHasegawa]

Can your Bernie lean???

[Kevin]

Can your Bernie lean???

http://knmakeup.com/v-web/gallery/albums/MensGrooming/BERNIE_WILLIAMS.jpg

YES HE CAN!!!!

Who ever wins their ace is not starting game 1.

If the Yankees can close it out tomorrow, its a huge advantage.

[A.J.]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/308029_290913947676142_1465457962_n.jpg

Apparently he DHes when batting my weight and then gets pulled in the 9th.

[ozzie]

Have they always scheduled "quadruple-headers" on week days during the LDS round?

[KnoxHarrington]

Have they always scheduled "quadruple-headers" on week days during the LDS round?

I know they've played 3 games on one day, but I never recall 4.

I guess they're trying to compress the schedule to have the playoffs done by November.

[A.J.]

And there's football on tonight too.

[keithy_19]

Exciting finish to the Giants/Reds series.

[deliciousV]

Exciting finish to the Giants/Reds series.

fuck fuck fuck fuck!

[razorboy]

Oh Ohio, will you ever win?

[keithy_19]

fuck fuck fuck fuck!

Sorry friend. If it makes any difference you can take solace in knowing that Jenny will have to sit in more bay area traffic now.

[ozzie]

Exciting finish to the Giants/Reds series.

In my best Lee Elia imression...

"85% of the fucking world is working"

Congrats to the 15% who got to see it live.


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[keithy_19]

In my best Lee Elia imression...

"85% of the fucking world is working"

Congrats to the 15% who got to see it live.


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Being unemployed makes October baseball so much more fun.

[cougarjake13]

Oh Ohio, will you ever win?



no

[deliciousV]

Sorry friend. If it makes any difference you can take solace in knowing that Jenny will have to sit in more bay area traffic now.

that is oddly comforting

[razorboy]

That was a pretty great game. One hell of a last at bat by Werth.

[Kevin]

Edge speared the Cardnails out of the playoffs to win the TV Championship.

[hanso]

Ah Big Ohh!

[Kevin]

I just can't tell you how sick I am of Arod Ks. Swisher never doing anything in big spots.. NEVER EVER EVER.
And Granderson K-ing on terrible pitches.

I know we are stuck with awful Arod, but Swisher and Granderson need to go. I do not care what their stats are.

[hanso]

There was talk the skipper could get canned for moving Arod. Is it a baseball team or a Roman empire? Stuff like that makes me an anti fan.

[disneyspy]

How Bout Them Tigers!!

[jennysmurf]

Sorry friend. If it makes any difference you can take solace in knowing that Jenny will have to sit in more bay area traffic now.

that is oddly comforting

:annoyed:

[cougarjake13]

There was talk the skipper could get canned for moving Arod. Is it a baseball team or a Roman empire? Stuff like that makes me an anti fan.



if I was giradi Id say fuck it do what I know is best for team and let em fire me and then take the cubs job

[A.J.]

That was a pretty great game. One hell of a last at bat by Werth.

Yes. Yes it was.

[razorboy]

More like Wainwrong.

[razorboy]

Now it's Gonzalez with the epic meltdown.

[Jayw]

No need to tear up my NLCS game 4 tickets just yet...

[keithy_19]

Way to go MLB having such an exciting postseason.

[Kevin]

Good work Nats.

[keithy_19]

Sheesh.

[Kevin]

The fav to win the WS right there...

Good work nats..

[Jayw]

Yep that just happened.

[keithy_19]

Yep that just happened.

I'm expecting 3 walks and 3 passed balls.

[Kevin]

The Nats should trade for Arod..

He would feel right at home with these chokers.

[keithy_19]

Horrible at bat for Harper.

[Kevin]

Horrible at bat for Harper.

Thats a clown at bat yo.

[hanso]

Would say Yanks won fair / square however many balls not even on the tracker box were called strikes for C.C. and that was a homerun the O's hit off the rightfield foul post. Stuff like that makes me an anti fan.

[NickyL0885]

Now the Strasburg move will be talked about again. Couldn't have happened to a better team! Now, lets go Giants and Tigers!

[keithy_19]

Would say Yanks won fair / square however many balls not even on the tracker box were called strikes for C.C. and that was a homerun the O's hit off the rightfield foul post. Stuff like that makes me an anti fan.

I would say that overall the strike zone has been all of the place for the duration of the playoffs. But hey, that's the human element of the game.

[Kevin]

Would say Yanks won fair / square however many balls not even on the tracker box were called strikes for C.C. and that was a homerun the O's hit off the rightfield foul post. Stuff like that makes me an anti fan.

Eh.. It happens dude.

That call was hard to make. It didnt make a sound or look like it changed direction.

It was impossible to call.

[razorboy]

Somewhere Joel Peralta is laughing his ass off.

[RingWraith]

Wow!! Just.......... wow!

[Jayw]

Pujols who?

[Kevin]

Pujols who?

He was like 37 anyway...

[Jayw]

I can't fucking wait to see carpenter pitch again.

[TripleSkeet]

Im so glad Washington choked. Thats what they get for shutting down Strasburg.First time making the playoffs since their rebirth and they shut down their ace before they even start. I hope they never make it back as long as hes there.

[hanso]

Eh.. It happens dude.

That call was hard to make. It didnt make a sound or look like it changed direction.

It was impossible to call.

The close up showed it, so the umps had to have seen that also.

The O's got screwed the last time around with the kid catching the fair ball / HR.

Yanks get the calls always enough already make it fair, 385 RF foul post my ass.

[Jayw]

Yep that actually happened. Just making sure.

[cougarjake13]

man I just have a feeling cardinals are gonna win again after almost not even making postseason

[KnoxHarrington]

man I just have a feeling cardinals are gonna win again after almost not even making postseason

If they win again this year, it'll be the strangest dynasty ever.

[hanso]

PC Richards whistle-ugh

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Pujols who?

He will be A Rod soon

[cougarjake13]

He will be A Rod soon

some may say he already is

[razorboy]

We're back, after three and a half hours.

[razorboy]

I don't know if I could trust a guy named Romo to be my closer.

[cougarjake13]

Arizona trades for Heath bell and cliff Pennington

[cougarjake13]

I don't know if I could trust a guy named Romo to be my closer.



ESP when he can't have his own identity and has go b Wilson with his beard

[hanso]

Arizona trades for Heath bell and cliff Pennington

When I heard it they only said Bell.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Unless the Cards bounce back. Looks like SF and Detroit

[cougarjake13]

Unless the Cards bounce back. Looks like SF and Detroit



I'm glad

we've already seen cards tigers

[spoon]

AWFUL!

Sorry Jenny, this alone drives me to cheer for the Tigers...and they swept the evil aside too, so that helps.

http://blogimages.thescore.com/djf/files/2012/10/hipstergiants.jpg

[deliciousV]

AWFUL!

Sorry Jenny, this alone drives me to cheer for the Tigers...and they swept the evil aside too, so that helps.

http://blogimages.thescore.com/djf/files/2012/10/hipstergiants.jpg

it's like a target, for giant loads!

[spoon]

to make things even worse, take a close look at the t-shirt the guy is wearing on the right

really?:wallbash:

[cougarjake13]

to make things even worse, take a close look at the t-shirt the guy is wearing on the right

really?:wallbash:



isn't that the new hipster cool thing to do now ?

[spoon]

sure is

fucking awful

[deliciousV]

to make things even worse, take a close look at the t-shirt the guy is wearing on the right

really?:wallbash:

Skateboarding Hipsters are the worst

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ozzie canned from the Marlins.


Maybe A Rod can be player/manager

[newport king]

Heard they wound up paying him in the neighborhood of 150,000 per win.

[spoon]

Ozzie canned from the Marlins.


Maybe A Rod can be player/manager

I'm now convinced u just repeat pretty much everything u hear on tv or the radio bc that was the exact bullshit michael kay was stammering on about for a few days recently. Tell me I'm wrong and u just thought Arod player manager in florida off the top of your biased head.

It has to be the dumbest bullshit concept I ever heard. The guy isn't even liked on his own teams, is selfish in the game and life, and has zero credibility in a dugout outside of Kay stating he's "a student of the game". What fucking player isn't!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now you know who I listen to? Actually I was not serious about A Rod being a player manager and I don't listen to Kay

That comment was coincidental

[spoon]

I wonder how high his BAC was!? (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hall-fame-catcher-fisk-charged-231932875--mlb.html)

Field of Dreams...literally.

[spoon]

http://blogimages.thescore.com/djf/files/2012/09/02-DarthFarrell.jpg

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm now convinced u just repeat pretty much everything u hear on tv or the radio bc that was the exact bullshit michael kay was stammering on about for a few days recently. Tell me I'm wrong and u just thought Arod player manager in florida off the top of your biased head.

It has to be the dumbest bullshit concept I ever heard. The guy isn't even liked on his own teams, is selfish in the game and life, and has zero credibility in a dugout outside of Kay stating he's "a student of the game". What fucking player isn't!

I listen to Mad Dog on Sirius all the time, and someone called in talking about how absurd it was that Yankees fans on WFAN were discussing getting Josh Johnson in a deal for A-Rod. A-Rod has the least value of any current player in MLB. Even if the Yankees paid his ENTIRE contract, who wants an aging 3B who was sat in the playoffs by his manager due to performance? Name recognition does not win baseball games.

[spoon]

I listen to Mad Dog on Sirius all the time, and someone called in talking about how absurd it was that Yankees fans on WFAN were discussing getting Josh Johnson in a deal for A-Rod. A-Rod has the least value of any current player in MLB. Even if the Yankees paid his ENTIRE contract, who wants an aging 3B who was sat in the playoffs by his manager due to performance? Name recognition does not win baseball games.

oh the wfan yank deals are the best!

cool gif here where Pence hits this ball multiple times!

http://www-thescore.s3.amazonaws.com/images/60417/original.gif?1350964755

[foodcourtdruide]

oh the wfan yank deals are the best!

cool gif here where Pence hits this ball multiple times!

http://www-thescore.s3.amazonaws.com/images/60417/original.gif?1350964755

That is freakin awesome!

[cougarjake13]

oh the wfan yank deals are the best!

cool gif here where Pence hits this ball multiple times!

http://www-thescore.s3.amazonaws.com/images/60417/original.gif?1350964755




fucking badass

[hanso]

Ozzie canned from the Marlins.




Should have never wore those spandy pants on 'The Franchise'.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Should have never wore those spandy pants on 'The Franchise'.

Its usually Venezuelan women who wear them


That team is all fucked up. 5 Managers since 2010. Even if Miami wants A Rod, If I was him, I'd stay away from that clusterfuck

[disneyspy]

nervous,almost time to start making my espressos so i can stay up and watch this long awaited series

[MHasegawa]

I'm sure this will be a first, if Verlander wins he'll be the first to win a game against both Bay area teams in the postseason.

[disneyspy]

I'm sure this will be a first, if Verlander wins he'll be the first to win a game against both Bay area teams in the postseason.

pleas dont tweet that to FOX,their rediculous stats of firsts are phenonmenal

[disneyspy]

stupid 3rd base!

[cougarjake13]

I'm sure this will be a first, if Verlander wins he'll be the first to win a game against both Bay area teams in the postseason.



I couldn't find anything

[disneyspy]

i'm going to be sick

[cougarjake13]

how bout dem giants !!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

how bout dem giants !!!

Verlander is pitching like in the AS game this year. A lot of Giants smoked him

[Kevin]

Well look at that...

When you don't face terrible hitters you get hit...

Will the Tigers get swept again in the WS?

If so, they should not be allowed back in.

If the Yankees were still alive they would have swept them.

[newport king]

What?

[newport king]

McCarver and Buck are fuckin terrible

[disneyspy]

What?

he's just sore cuz they swept the yankees

[OGC]

Is it possible for McCarver to be quiet for even the slightest amount of time.

[Kevin]

What?

I meant if the Yankees showed up they would have swept them easily.

They had 7000000 runners on base.

[newport king]

Yankees have been swept twice in the world series. Dodgers and Reds.

[Kevin]

Yankees have been swept twice in the world series. Dodgers and Reds.

Right, and one of those times were against an all time team.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well look at that...

When you don't face terrible hitters you get hit...

Will the Tigers get swept again in the WS?

If so, they should not be allowed back in.

If the Yankees were still alive they would have swept them.

Agreed

SF Knows how to advance runners and dont need to rely on the HR like the Yankees did

Slight correction. Tigers lost in 5 back in '06

[Kevin]

Agreed

SF Knows how to advance runners and dont need to rely on the HR like the Yankees did

Slight correction. Tigers lost in 5 back in '06

Did they...

I could have sworn they got swept.

But I stand by my The Yankees lost because they did not show up comment.

That was an alltime pathetic showing, maybe the worst.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Did they...

I could have sworn they got swept.

But I stand by my The Yankees lost because they did not show up comment.

That was an alltime pathetic showing, maybe the worst.

Yup they only won 1 game

The Yankees if they showed up could have won the pennant 4-1. Thanks to the shitbags like A Rod, Swisher, Cano and Granderson they handed the Tigers that ALCS crown.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So far Zito is pitching like he never left Oakland.

[disneyspy]

ooooof,sandoval is a beast tonight

[newport king]

The other teams play too. Its not some birthright that the yankees should be in the world series every year

[Kevin]

The other teams play too. Its not some birthright that the yankees should be in the world series every year

Im not saying that.

But that was clearly the Yankees not showing up.

Besides Verlander, no pitcher on that team pitched well.

They walked a ton and let like I said a million runners on base.

It was the same Yankee players not showing up for the playoffs.

Swisher Cano Granderson Arod.

[Kevin]

Looks like Barry Zito had a nice talk with Ryan Braun.

[cougarjake13]

I must be on earth 2

zito is good
lincecum sux ass

[cougarjake13]

Im not saying that.

But that was clearly the Yankees not showing up.

Besides Verlander, no pitcher on that team pitched well.

They walked a ton and let like I said a million runners on base.

It was the same Yankee players not showing up for the playoffs.

Swisher Cano Granderson Arod.




so the tigers get an asterisk ? or less credit for winning cause it was really more a Yankee loss ?


I mean u can say that for any team that loses

the football giants didnt beat the packers , the packers just didnt show up
the kings didnt really win the Stanley cup , all the teams they beat just didn't show up

[newport king]

Detroits starters pitched, and fatboy got lit up game 4

[Kevin]

so the tigers get an asterisk ? or less credit for winning cause it was really more a Yankee loss ?


I mean u can say that for any team that loses

the football giants didnt beat the packers , the packers just didnt show up
the kings didnt really win the Stanley cup , all the teams they beat just didn't show up

No. They won.

But lets face it.

Two of those bums hit. this would have prob been a sweep the other way.

[newport king]

Id like to see detroit win this. I dont like SF having a couple former Mets, Bochy looks like my alcoholic uncle, Brian Wilsons novelty has worn off, as has the identity Ramos stole, and Posey was a real crybaby when he got his leg broken because he fucked up and blocked the plate wrong

[disneyspy]

No. They won.

But lets face it.

Two of those bums hit. this would have prob been a sweep the other way.

the WHOLE team got shut out,the yanks had a .188 BA , THE LOWEST IN POST SEASON HISTORY and it's not like the tigers were winning 1-0 games,the last 8-1 blowout should give you a clue plus there really is no room for sour grapes and yankee talk in this world series discussion,they lost,get over it

[Kevin]

the WHOLE team got shut out,the yanks had a .188 BA , THE LOWEST IN POST SEASON HISTORY and it's not like the tigers were winning 1-0 games,the last 8-1 blowout should give you a clue plus there really is no room for sour grapes and yankee talk in this world series discussion,they lost,get over it

The whole team did not get shut out.

It was a bunch of bums in the middle of the order.

[spoon]

I'm sure this will be a first, if Verlander wins he'll be the first to win a game against both Bay area teams in the postseason.

nope...game 4/5?

[spoon]

The whole team did not get shut out.

It was a bunch of bums in the middle of the order.

dude, nobody but Ichiro hit overall for the yanks and I'm pretty sure Scherzer pitched fucking great in game four versus your ace!

Game #1
Fister went 6.1 innings and allowed 6 hits and 0 runs...the rest of the team combined to give up only 4 runs to through 12 innings, all by valverde in the 9th (one guy). And note, Fister out pitched postseason stud and pothole chinned Pettitte who pitched quite well.

Game #2
Sanchez went 7 innings and allowed only 3 hits and again put up a zero for runs. This time, the Tiger bullpen locked it down and they blanked the yanks. Again, the yankee starter pitched (Kuroda) well too, but was out dueled like in game 1.

Game #3
Once again a Tiger pitcher was ON, as Verlander almost had a complete game shutout if not for Nunez getting a hold of one and his high pitch count. Still, he put up 8.1 innings of one run ball (scored in the 9th) and gave up a mere 3 hits as well. Ex yank Coke came in and shut the door on the potential rally as the Tigers once again won the pitching battles.

Game #4
Well, this one wasn't even close as the yanks surprised me with their ace on the mound. They seemingly were lost out there and defeated way before the game even started. However, as I noted above, Scherzer had some sick stuff this game. He only went 5.2, but lined up 10 k's in that time (10 of 17 outs) and for the 4th time out of 4 the Tiger starter allowed one run or fewer over at least 5 innings of work. That's playoff pitching at a very high level, and his stuff was clearly pretty wicked that night. The bullpen then locked it down once again, as the yanks surprisingly went so quietly to their demise.

that's not a middle of the order problem kev, that's a whole fucking team shit pile and a record setting shit heap at that as well. That's 6 runs over 4 games, with 4 of the runs in the 9th of the first game (12 innings) off a struggling pitcher Valverde. Take that inning away and you're left with 2 runs over the next three games with that lineup and payroll...oof.

all but two batters were over .250 in the ALCS, one being Nunez with only 6 late in the series abs. Ichiro was the ONLY yankee to truly and consistently hit in this series, not the top and bottom of you lineup overall. His ONE spot hit, and the other 8 spots didn't game in and game out. Even Jeter was at just .200 when he left (only 5 abs I know), but the others make that look solid.

[A.J.]

Verlander picking up where he left off in the 2006 WS.

[cougarjake13]

Verlander picking up where he left off in the 2006 WS.



and all star game

[disneyspy]

great call 3rd base coach waving prince fielder around

[Kevin]

Looks like the Tigers are embarrassing the AL in the WS again..

Please don't even bother making it in the future.

[cougarjake13]

since the whole steroids canseco thing seems like power hitting monster teams can't win as much as in yrs past

09 yanks wuld qualify but look at these 2 giants teams and last yrs cardinals 08 rays this yrs orioles
seems like the playing field is getting back level

[Kevin]

The Umps are doing as much as they can to keep these bums in it.

[spoon]

Looks like the Tigers are embarrassing the AL in the WS again..

Please don't even bother making it in the future.

they did their job for me

good job Tigers, AL CHAMPS!

[spoon]

since the whole steroids canseco thing seems like power hitting monster teams can't win as much as in yrs past

09 yanks wuld qualify but look at these 2 giants teams and last yrs cardinals 08 rays this yrs orioles
seems like the playing field is getting back level

It's an interesting point, but I'm not so sure. While it is much easier to lock up the top power bats in the past and they would club their way to victory, pitching had plenty on roids/hgh/other just as much. It may just be harder for the money teams to simply lock in so many power bats and often club their way to victories. Now teams need to actually have balance, generate/produce runs and have versatility overall...you know, the art that was MLB before it just became an espn/public bastardized version of home run derby.

It's the same sentiment I get with NHL on scoring. Assholes with no true love of the game just want goals/scoring, fuck the art of the game overall. The amazing feel of a late 1-0 win in a goalie standoff, a huge check at center-ice that simply changes a game in a flash, a well timed utilization of the energy or checking line, a huge fight to spark a team and crowd and of course a goalie simply standing on his head and stealing a game against an offensive attack well above that of what his team put out there.

MLB too is a game of strategy again and at least for the time being, baseball is going back to a game of checks and balances and small moves having huge impacts and late game consequences. If only they'd kill the ALDS format, the all-star WS tie in and of course implement AT LEAST a 50 floor/175 cap (50/150 best and still leaves a 100 million dollar difference).

With my more favored 50/150 breakdown only 3 team would have to cut salary (one only 4 million) and 1 up salary by less than a million. A perfect world would have a smaller window, 75/150 bc I doubt the MLBPA would allow less than 150 at this point. With this situation 7 teams would have to come up, easily offsetting the 3 coming down which allows me to think the MLBPA would sign this if pushed.

[spoon]

The Umps are doing as much as they can to keep these bums in it.

They clearly aren't helping THAT much. Tigers look like the Yankees in the last series.

[hanso]

They clearly aren't helping THAT much. Tigers look like the Yankees in the last series.

I had this same thought the 2-4 hitters had been potent are now dormant

[Kevin]

They clearly aren't helping THAT much. Tigers look like the Yankees in the last series.

Yea, Carbon copy.
Good pitching, and runners getting on base.
The lower guys are hitting and getting on, it's just like the Yankees, they have gotten NOTHING to from their big guys.

You got to get away from the big hr hitters. They just don't do well in the post season

[spoon]

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/8123594476_fbb2e23620_o.gif

[spoon]

http://garlicfriesandbaseball.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/verlander-meets-the-panda.jpg?w=500

http://media.mlive.com/tigers_impact/photo/11766442-large.jpg

funny shit that some thought was real (second one of course)

[spoon]

damn good game thus far

can Detroit stop the sweep?

[Kevin]

http://garlicfriesandbaseball.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/verlander-meets-the-panda.jpg?w=500

http://media.mlive.com/tigers_impact/photo/11766442-large.jpg

funny shit that some thought was real (second one of course)



I know its funny and Verlander rules, but wouldn't that piss you the fuck off if he was on your team?

I think Bob Gibson would have nailed him in the head with a 97mph fb if he was on his team.


edit, nevermind i thought you said it was real.

[Kevin]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/183m37cz3g5d1gif/original.gif

[spoon]

game

set

match


who said Romo couldn't close the deal?

[Kevin]

game

set

match


who said Romo couldn't close the deal?

Well....

This Romo IS NOT FROM WISCONSIN!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Suck it Yankee haters!!!!


Anaheim, Miami and Detroit spend over 500 million this past offseason on free agents and they ain't got dick!!!!

[disneyspy]

Suck it Yankee haters!!!!


Anaheim, Miami and Detroit spend over 500 million this past offseason on free agents and they ain't got dick!!!!

AWWWW,you must still be sore that the tigers knocked the yanks out of the playoffs,you poor baby

[WRESTLINGFAN]

AWWWW,you must still be sore that the tigers knocked the yanks out of the playoffs,you poor baby

The Yanks didn't show up against Detroit. You got the sweep.


I'll take the high road and won't say anything else about the Tigers today.

[Kevin]

AWWWW,you must still be sore that the tigers knocked the yanks out of the playoffs,you poor baby

I will leave the tigers out of it because you beat us so you can talk.

But Giants were not very good to you last night were they.

0-2 VS Them

HOW BOUT DEM DEM COWBOYS!!!!

[disneyspy]

i guess you forgot the boys beat them to kick off the season in giants stadium,its ok,i'm so bummed about the world series i can't really talk at all

[spoon]

Suck it Yankee haters!!!!


Anaheim, Miami and Detroit spend over 500 million this past offseason on free agents and they ain't got dick!!!!

yes yes, just imagine if they DIDN'T spend that money

and yankee haters, at least for that reason, aren't for other teams doing it either...hence the cap talk from myself at least

yet let's not act like the spanks didn't lead the way and help drive up the cost on almost any worthy free agent

the tigers did their job...they beat the whore bag spanks

And they did all this STILL paying 70 million less to its team, almost half the yanks payroll. Yah, that's sweet and doesn't poke many holes in wf's argument...yet he's used to that by now.

[Kevin]

yes yes, just imagine if they DIDN'T spend that money

and yankee haters, at least for that reason, aren't for other teams doing it either...hence the cap talk from myself at least

yet let's not act like the spanks didn't lead the way and help drive up the cost on almost any worthy free agent

the tigers did their job...they beat the whore bag spanks

And they did all this STILL paying 70 million less to its team, almost half the yanks payroll. Yah, that's sweet and doesn't poke many holes in wf's argument...yet he's used to that by now.

Still not a peep about the Dodgers....

[cougarjake13]

i guess you forgot the boys beat them to kick off the season in giants stadium,its ok,i'm so bummed about the world series i can't really talk at all

and that's relevant how ?


in 07 cowboys swept but giants won the one that really mattered


6-2 > 3-4

[spoon]

I will leave the tigers out of it because you beat us so you can talk.

But Giants were not very good to you last night were they.

0-2 VS Them

HOW BOUT DEM DEM COWBOYS!!!!

funny coincidence

yet I assume anyone that likes both teams (Giants) might have a problem or at least a fetish!

[spoon]

Still not a peep about the Dodgers....

not true, you brought it up and I addressed it

you're joking right!?

we disagree on it in areas, but you can't say you don't know my take on it...yankees and all others

[spoon]

and that's relevant how ?


in 07 cowboys swept but giants won the one that really mattered


6-2 > 3-4

ha ha

you just self BURNED!

:wink: :lol:

[disneyspy]

and that's relevant how ?


in 07 cowboys swept but giants won the one that really mattered


6-2 > 3-4

I will leave the tigers out of it because you beat us so you can talk.

But Giants were not very good to you last night were they.

0-2 VS Them

HOW BOUT DEM DEM COWBOYS!!!!

you do realize you're coming off as dense as kev right?

[disneyspy]

ha ha

you just self BURNED!

:wink: :lol:

thank you! plus the fact that it wasnt even me that brought that shit up

[cougarjake13]

you do realize you're coming off as dense as kev right?



ur the one who brought up a meaningless week one victory and touted it like it was the 6 th Super Bowl title

[disneyspy]

ur the one who brought up a meaningless week one victory and touted it like it was the 6 th Super Bowl title

no dumbass,kevin brought it up that the cowboys lost both games in the fucking MLB THREAD! and you ran with it like it was some fucking big deal,like you just did AGAIN

[cougarjake13]

no dumbass,kevin brought it up that the cowboys lost both games in the fucking MLB THREAD! and you ran with it like it was some fucking big deal,like you just did AGAIN



then why bring up week one ?


he didnt bring up that the cowboys lost both games old man

he said both giants teams beat both of ur teams

it might be time to set u down for a nap

[disneyspy]

then why bring up week one ?
let me break it down for you

I will leave the tigers out of it because you beat us so you can talk.

But Giants were not very good to you last night were they.

0-2 VS Them

HOW BOUT DEM DEM COWBOYS!!!!

kevin said he'd not bring up the tigers

then he said the giants werent good to me(i guess cuz i'm a cowboys fan)

0-2 vs the giants (the cowboys record against the new york giants this year)

then a quote from jimmy johnson after they beat the bills

but i had to remind that the cowboys are 1-1 against them,i didnt do it as meanly as it deserved,sorry for calling you a dumbass

[Kevin]

not true, you brought it up and I addressed it

you're joking right!?

we disagree on it in areas, but you can't say you don't know my take on it...yankees and all others

How do you not think it worse than anything the Yankees have ever done in the height of their crazy spending?

They took on like a billion dollar in salary.

Including a guy making 18mil who wont play for a year?

Not to mention Hanley before that.

Sorry.

Yankees did this you would be going ape shit for months.

[disneyspy]

then why bring up week one ?


he didnt bring up that the cowboys lost both games old man

he said both giants teams beat both of ur teams

it might be time to set u down for a nap

well then he did want to talk shit about the tigers which makes him even worse of a person

[cougarjake13]

well then he did want to talk shit about the tigers which makes him even worse of a person



no it's just being a fan


u wulda came in here gloating like a motherfucker if the tigers swept and cowboys did as well

[hanso]

How do you not think it worse than anything the Yankees have ever done in the height of their crazy spending?

They took on like a billion dollar in salary.

Including a guy making 18mil who wont play for a year?

Not to mention Hanley before that.

Sorry.

Yankees did this you would be going ape shit for months.

But that folded the team unlike....nvm

[Kevin]

no dumbass,kevin brought it up that the cowboys lost both games in the fucking MLB THREAD! and you ran with it like it was some fucking big deal,like you just did AGAIN

Yea.. No old man..

I said you lost to both teams named Giants last night.

Put on your glasses.

Edit... CJ beat me too it.

It doesn't make me a bad person..

Just a fan.

Like CJ said, you gloat more than anyone here.

You dish it, learn to take it.

BTW.

That was a long ass 10 secs there at the game.

You guys got bullshit home cooking and an extra second.

But thank God Romo is Romo and it didnt matter.

[disneyspy]

no it's just being a fan


u wulda came in here gloating like a motherfucker if the tigers swept and cowboys did as well

when the tigers swept the yanks i stayed quiet cuz i knew their fans had to feel bad,it wasnt til 5 days after when those same whiners were still crying that i told them to get over it

and as for the NFL thread,it's no fun messing with giants fans cuz theyre all retarded

[Kevin]

when the tigers swept the yanks i stayed quiet cuz i knew their fans had to feel bad,it wasnt til 5 days after when those same whiners were still crying that i told them to get over it

and as for the NFL thread,it's no fun messing with giants fans cuz theyre all retarded

Or that you don't have anything to say..

Because we beat your ass when it counts.

4-0 In NY Texas Giant Stadium btw.

[disneyspy]

Like CJ said, you gloat more than anyone here.


thats bullshit and you know it,crybaby

[Kevin]

I have fully admitted that I am a terrible fan.

Especially when my teams win.

But A. I bash them when they need bashing.

B. I am here after every loss. I do not hide.

[Kevin]

And also.

The Giants (SF) Proved the point that I was making.

The Tigers weren't a good team.

They were mediocre.

The Yankees were a shit team and did not show up.

If they did, it would have been an easy sweep.

Btw...

How did it feel to see a Romo that can actually get it done.

And against your team.

Oh the Irony!


:lol:

[Dell]

wow...Giants and Yankees fans are becoming more obnoxious than Philly fans


(thought this fire needed a little kerosene)

[Kevin]

Seriously think about it.

You lost to teams named Giants..

And A Romo on your team Can't get it done.

But a Romo on the Giants could.

Man, you can't make that shit up.

[cougarjake13]

Seriously think about it.

You lost to teams named Giants..

And A Romo on your team Can't get it done.

But a Romo on the Giants could.

Man, you can't make that shit up.




it's poetic

[cougarjake13]

and congrats to terry Bradshaw

after jimmy Johnson said Eli wuld throw 3 ints terry says don't worry romo will throw 4



love it !!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

R.I.P. Pascual Perez

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8579620/pascual-perez-former-mlb-pitcher-killed-age-55-dominican-republic

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hamilton seeking huge payday


http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/headlines/20121103-report-rangers-josh-hamilton-seeking-seven-years-175-million-in-free-agency.ece?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bye Bye Bay


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mets-jason-bay-terminate-contract-185730155--mlb.html

[hanso]

Hamilton seeking huge payday


http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/headlines/20121103-report-rangers-josh-hamilton-seeking-seven-years-175-million-in-free-agency.ece?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Some team might take him would want it more like 5 years though. Also with coinditions to counter the baggage.

[cougarjake13]

Bye Bye Bay


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mets-jason-bay-terminate-contract-185730155--mlb.html



thank god


now he'll sign wit the giants or rangers and bat .330 with 32 hrs and 105 rbi's next year

[spoon]

Some team might take him would want it more like 5 years though. Also with coinditions to counter the baggage.

here comes the Toronto rumors

if anything, it better be a minor league deal as a possibility to be a utility OF at best

he's a walking injury and can't hit a beach ball

[Kevin]

here comes the Toronto rumors

if anything, it better be a minor league deal as a possibility to be a utility OF at best

he's a walking injury and can't hit a beach ball

Perfect Yankee these days.

Contact?! AVG?! WHAT'S THAT?

[spoon]

Perfect Yankee these days.

Contact?! AVG?! WHAT'S THAT?

fuck you

the yanks got two clutch ballers like Ibanez and Ichiro and I'd LOVE both

I yelled at WF for ripping down Raul early last year (is he ever right) and screamed that the Ichiro trade was a joke bc you damn well knew he was beyond solid and would surely wake up from his half year (out of a decade plus) funk despite his age bc you simply don't fall off that quick unless linked to PEDs or injured badly

the jays get he Jason Bay and Frank Thomas types, the yanks can pay the aging guys with something left in the tank and value in the locker room

you know why too

[Kevin]

fuck you

the yanks got two clutch ballers like Ibanez and Ichiro and I'd LOVE both

I yelled at WF for ripping down Raul early last year (is he ever right) and screamed that the Ichiro trade was a joke bc you damn well knew he was beyond solid and would surely wake up from his half year (out of a decade plus) funk despite his age bc you simply don't fall off that quick unless linked to PEDs or injured badly

the jays get he Jason Bay and Frank Thomas types, the yanks can pay the aging guys with something left in the tank and value in the locker room

you know why too

The stadium hurts them ALOT.

They are all so hr happy that they just don't try for reg hits anymore.

And that just kills them in the playoffs where situational hits rule.

They need to push back those joke corner fences back and maybe all these guys will re learn how to hit.

[Kevin]

That and fucking Girardi using that stupid binder of his like it was the bible.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Binders full of Pinstripes

[NickyL0885]

The Mets actually gave me something to cheer about! But soon, I suspect, I will be back to my sad ways when they trade R.A. Dickey.

[Kevin]

The Mets actually gave me something to cheer about! But soon, I suspect, I will be back to my sad ways when they trade R.A. Dickey.

Wait....

WHY?

Why would you not want to deal a 37 year old pitcher at the height of his value when you clearly are not going to contend in his window of being a good sp?

It would be pretty stupid not to trade him for good prospects at this point.

[NickyL0885]

Wait....

WHY?

Why would you not want to deal a 37 year old pitcher at the height of his value when you clearly are not going to contend in his window of being a good sp?

It would be pretty stupid not to trade him for good prospects at this point.

He's the best pitcher they have. Lets be fair, they need gate attractions other than Wright. Plus, I think he can be good for a few more years. Yeah, he throws a hard knuckler, but even if it slows down with age, he'll still be effective! It's reasons like this that make Met fans crazy. They don't keep their stars. Plus, who knows what prospect you'd get? It would have to be someone who is close to a sure thing as you can get.

[Kevin]

He's the best pitcher they have. Lets be fair, they need gate attractions other than Wright. Plus, I think he can be good for a few more years. Yeah, he throws a hard knuckler, but even if it slows down with age, he'll still be effective! It's reasons like this that make Met fans crazy. They don't keep their stars. Plus, who knows what prospect you'd get? It would have to be someone who is close to a sure thing as you can get.


You can't look at gate attractions as a fan.

With your financial woes and level of talent, you need good cheap young talent.

And I am sure you can get some really good prospects for him.

[NickyL0885]

You can't look at gate attractions as a fan.

With your financial woes and level of talent, you need good cheap young talent.

And I am sure you can get some really good prospects for him.

If they trade him, it will need to be to a contender who feels they're a pitcher away from getting to the World Series. Someone who would be willing to part with a top prospect, along with mid level prospects. Dickey performs better in warmer/dry climates. Maybe the Dodgers? Hell, they seem to be all in with their moves this past year. Or maybe the Angels if they lose Haren and Greinke.

[Kevin]

Ok.. For you spoon.

How much money do the Yankees waste on bum talent that no other team can?

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[spoon]

You can't look at gate attractions as a fan.

With your financial woes and level of talent, you need good cheap young talent.

And I am sure you can get some really good prospects for him.

this is a tough one for me, but kev is right

IF they get something of good value for him at 37, despite the age thing being less of an issue with a knucklefuck

[spoon]

oh God kev, I can't believe you and so many here watch that homoerotic male soap opera shit!

that hurt my fucking eyes and ears

thanks

[cougarjake13]

He's the best pitcher they have. Lets be fair, they need gate attractions other than Wright. Plus, I think he can be good for a few more years. Yeah, he throws a hard knuckler, but even if it slows down with age, he'll still be effective! It's reasons like this that make Met fans crazy. They don't keep their stars. Plus, who knows what prospect you'd get? It would have to be someone who is close to a sure thing as you can get.


if ur looking at him as a gate attraction thn as a team ur fucked

[NickyL0885]

if ur looking at him as a gate attraction thn as a team ur fucked

Idk. I am sure more people came to games when he pitches. You need stars to bring people in, along with winning of course. But if you aren't winning, stars help bring fans.

[Kevin]

Idk. I am sure more people came to games when he pitches. You need stars to bring people in, along with winning of course. But if you aren't winning, stars help bring fans.

This is not the NBA. Stars don't come for other stars the come for money and winning. I Andd Dickey won't be around by the time you win. And you aren't signing anyone big for a while either.

[Kevin]

kev is right


Oh my God.

They Myans were right

WE ALL GUNNA DIE!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Marlins bring on Tino Martinez to be hitting coach



Interesting article on how LA could be the Yankees of the NL West



http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove12/story/_/id/8605165/los-angeles-dodgers-spending-new-york-yankees

[Kevin]

Question Spoon....

I remember you saying you hung out with Tori Hunter a few years back and he talked about how much he does not like the Yankees.

Rumors have it that he might sign here.

How disappointing would you be in him if he does.

Forget the fact that he would be signing here, but for the fact that he would be after saying that.

[spoon]

Oh my God.

They Myans were right

WE ALL GUNNA DIE!!!

but you can't quote for SHIT!

[Kevin]

but you can't quote for SHIT!

Yea I was doing it on my phone..

Got in the tunnel on the train, by the time i got out it was too late to edit.

[Kevin]

kev is right



There..

NOW the world is gunna end.

[spoon]

Marlins bring on Tino Martinez to be hitting coach



Interesting article on how LA could be the Yankees of the NL West



http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove12/story/_/id/8605165/los-angeles-dodgers-spending-new-york-yankees

could be!?

:lol:

[Kevin]

could be!?

:lol:

And like the Yankees when they started spending crazy.

They won't win jack shit.

And lets face it, they were a terrible Joe Maur call away from not doing it in 09 either.

[spoon]

Question Spoon....

I remember you saying you hung out with Tori Hunter a few years back and he talked about how much he does not like the Yankees.

Rumors have it that he might sign here.

How disappointing would you be in him if he does.

Forget the fact that he would be signing here, but for the fact that he would be after saying that.

Guess there goes that Idea of the team seeking to get younger

Possible swisher replacement


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/yankees-hunt-torii-replace-swish-article-1.1195294

i call no shot right now

Hence the reason I responded to WF in this manner in the Yank thread. I would surely lose a whole lot of respect for him if he did, but truth be told I wouldn't be surprised these days where money and rings are all that matters. I surely hope he does not and sticks to his guns on it.

[spoon]

And like the Yankees when they started spending crazy.

They won't win jack shit.

And lets face it, they were a terrible Joe Maur call away from not doing it in 09 either.

who?

:innocent:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Texas offers 3 year deal to Hamilton as max offer


http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/8610003/texas-rangers-max-offer-josh-hamilton-3-years-report-says

[cougarjake13]

with the injuries you really cant go higher then that

[MHasegawa]

By the way, here are new Astros uni's for the 2013 season to mark their move to the AL West.

http://news.sportslogos.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/590x218x416895_10152219612855431_946844450_n-590x218.jpeg.pagespeed.ic.3DO7vBP_5q.jpg

I like how they brought the H on star logo back, other than that they are rather plain and boring uniforms.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

with the injuries you really cant go higher then that



Plus there's the risk factor of him relapsing again

[cougarjake13]

Plus there's the risk factor of him relapsing again



slight risk but yeh that too

[hanso]

Texas offers 3 year deal to Hamilton as max offer


http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/8610003/texas-rangers-max-offer-josh-hamilton-3-years-report-says

Orioles, Mariners and Brewers your move.

[spoon]

Texas offers 3 year deal to Hamilton as max offer


http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/8610003/texas-rangers-max-offer-josh-hamilton-3-years-report-says

with the injuries you really cant go higher then that

Oh there's virtually no way he resigns in Texas, much less they want him either. He's worn out his welcome there with his attitude and injuries/issues, and this offer was low in order to let him walk and still get the supplemental first round pick. No brainer there and easily translated.

[spoon]

Orioles, Mariners and Brewers your move.

definitely not the guy I'd spend big money on if you ask me

his defense is lacking, his drive is weak and he has a horrible clubhouse record of late

sorry, he has too many shitty factors to be worth the money he'll get

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ESPN reports LA is interested in signing Torii Hunter. They Signed McGwire as their hitting coach

[cougarjake13]

ESPN reports LA is interested in signing Torii Hunter. They Signed McGwire as their hitting coach



well it won't cost much to move if he has to move at all

[spoon]

here comes the Toronto rumors

if anything, it better be a minor league deal as a possibility to be a utility OF at best

he's a walking injury and can't hit a beach ball

ha!

Bleacher report recently emailed a WHOLE LIST of rumors for Bay that were printed that very fucking day.

Of course...:wallbash: (http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/07/will-the-jays-make-a-play-for-bay)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS)
11/13/12, 6:49 PM
Blockbuster is agreed to. Reyes, buehrle, johnson, buck go to blue jays. Hechevarria and others to marlins, once finalized.

[cougarjake13]

spoon thoughts ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hanso any thoughts on the Fish and Jays trade,

[newport king]

The hell are the marlins doing?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The hell are the marlins doing?



Business as usual

[razorboy]

The only guy in that trade I actually trust as a player is Buehrle.

[TripleSkeet]

Hopefully the Phillies can somehow get Stanton from this fire sale.

[cougarjake13]

Business as usual



not really


usually they win a title first

[Kevin]

This is the 2nd time in 5 months that a team was allowed to undo their fuck ups in clear salary dumps that is bullshit and bad for the game.

Bud Selig has just surpassed Bettman as the worst Commish in the history of sports.

[hanso]

Hanso any thoughts on the Fish and Jays trade,

Just found out & read about it the only player Marlins get I heard of might be more to do with scandal than on field play.

This is the break down, they had better build up also and there are a lot of FA out there now that turned down the first offers from their teams.

It might be better to get those types (mid level) than 2-3 upper tier players as that didn't work to well outside of the month of May.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I was talking to one of my friends about the Marlins and he speculated that they want to make room for an A Rod trade.


Even if the Yankees pay half his remaining freight, Miami would still owe him 55 Million.

[NickyL0885]

The Marlins really should be moved. Portland, OR is perfect. Natural rival with Seattle, and they support their teams over there. Put them in the AL West and move the Astros back to the NL. Or move them to Montreal, if a new stadium can be worked out? May have to pay the Nats a fee to use the Expo name, but it would be cool the have them back.

Either way, I love that Reyes got screwed. He picked the Marlins b/c the Mets didn't offer him a contract, and also b/c they really "wanted him". Yeah Jose, they wanted you alright. That turf is not going to be good for his legs. It's nice to know there is a more inept team other than the Mets.

[spoon]

The Marlins really should be moved. Portland, OR is perfect. Natural rival with Seattle, and they support their teams over there. Put them in the AL West and move the Astros back to the NL. Or move them to Montreal, if a new stadium can be worked out? May have to pay the Nats a fee to use the Expo name, but it would be cool the have them back.

Either way, I love that Reyes got screwed. He picked the Marlins b/c the Mets didn't offer him a contract, and also b/c they really "wanted him". Yeah Jose, they wanted you alright. That turf is not going to be good for his legs. It's nice to know there is a more inept team other than the Mets.

A few things on this overall. First, Reyes was actually in serious contention to go to the Jays last season, but they hit a roadblock bc the Jays don't like going past 5 year deals. So it's not like he got screwed in the end, yet many players didn't sign with Miami bc they wouldn't give no trade clauses.

Next, Miami's franchise is going nowhere, and to be honest they got a WHOLE lot back for mostly free agents they signed/paid for only a year. It's not even a bad way to build, IF you find a team looking into your players after. To me, the Marlins just made a HUGE leap with their system as Marisnick is a true 5 tool stud (#2 in the system), Hech a defensive wiz up the middle with speed (light bat, but ok at SS) and both pitchers they got are REAL good prospects. To be honest, I hate to see Marisnick and Nicolino go in a big way. Hech is solid, but those two are potential freaks that Miami just got. Sure it's not a done deal they will be, but upside here is awesome.

Still, I am quite happy nonetheless, as this may be the biggest news for this franchise in two decades. Yet they HAVE to resign Johnson asap. No way you let him go to free agency...NONE!

[NickyL0885]

A few things on this overall. First, Reyes was actually in serious contention to go to the Jays last season, but they hit a roadblock bc the Jays don't like going past 5 year deals. So it's not like he got screwed in the end, yet many players didn't sign with Miami bc they wouldn't give no trade clauses.

Next, Miami's franchise is going nowhere, and to be honest they got a WHOLE lot back for mostly free agents they signed/paid for only a year. It's not even a bad way to build, IF you find a team looking into your players after. To me, the Marlins just made a HUGE leap with their system as Marisnick is a true 5 tool stud (#2 in the system), Hech a defensive wiz up the middle with speed (light bat, but ok at SS) and both pitchers they got are REAL good prospects. To be honest, I hate to see Marisnick and Nicolino go in a big way. Hech is solid, but those two are potential freaks that Miami just got. Sure it's not a done deal they will be, but upside here is awesome.

Still, I am quite happy nonetheless, as this may be the biggest news for this franchise in two decades. Yet they HAVE to resign Johnson asap. No way you let him go to free agency...NONE!

They are all nice young players, but there is the same chance they turn out to be duds. That is the risk with prospects. As a Mets fan, we all know too well about studs/great players in the system(Lastings Milledge, Fernando Martinez, Mike Pelfrey). Also, fans didn't care this year when they had good players. Expect even less fans to show up now.

[spoon]

i can't believe Toronto has a fucking leadoff man...and he better stop hitting fly balls looking for HRs. Leave that for E5, Bautista, Rasmus and JPA...Lawrie at times.

Man do the Jays have speed now with Reyes, Gose, Bonafacio, Rasmus, Davis and Lawrie...and pitching for the first time in ages. Now go get Halladay back on the cheap so Drabek is just the insurance starter.

[cougarjake13]

They are all nice young players, but there is the same chance they turn out to be duds. That is the risk with prospects. As a Mets fan, we all know too well about studs/great players in the system(Lastings Milledge, Fernando Martinez, Mike Pelfrey). Also, fans didn't care this year when they had good players. Expect even less fans to show up now.



don't forget the immortal Alex Escobar

[A.J.]

The hell are the marlins doing?

Continuing to be a blemish on the great sport of baseball.

[cougarjake13]

Continuing to be a blemish on the great sport of baseball.



and yet have the Same amount as titles as Red Sox in last 15 yrs

[A.J.]

and yet have the Same amount as titles as Red Sox in last 15 yrs

Oh yeah? Well the Sox set attendance records! It's the Baseball's Most Beloved Park don't you know. :dry:

[Kevin]

and yet have the Same amount as titles as Red Sox in last 105 yrs


Fixed... Sorry had to do it.


And once again, you can't complain about the Yankees for 12yrs here then not have a problem with what went on again. This is again worse Than anything the Yanks have ever done.

[hanso]

I was talking to one of my friends about the Marlins and he speculated that they want to make room for an A Rod trade.


Even if the Yankees pay half his remaining freight, Miami would still owe him 55 Million.

Might be why they didn't try for any known INF, I was looking at MLB TV and saw Kelly Johnson 2B as FA for TOR. which made me wonder about this.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who would want to go to Miami after this deal?

They dont like to give no trade clauses.

[hanso]

Who would want to go to Miami after this deal?

They dont like to give no trade clauses.

That has always been the case

[spoon]

Fixed... Sorry had to do it.


And once again, you can't complain about the Yankees for 12yrs here then not have a problem with what went on again. This is again worse Than anything the Yanks have ever done.

The Marlins have always been a joke and speaks to the issue with unabated free agency, who ever said they were a shining example of what's good with baseball? It only strengthens my argument, as they just got a shit ton of talent for guys they fucking bought a year prior. Outside of Johnson, the only piece to this move that came from them worth a lot.

The Jays gave up plenty to get these guys, but why not just make the financial push last year and keep your prospects? Reyes was very interested, and if you made a smaller move to get pitching and some pieces last year to start it, plenty would be interested to come to Toronto...especially if they went a little beyond other clubs. If anything Kev, it's the opposite of the Ichiro trade, even if on a much smaller scale.

It's an honest trade for both teams, just the Marlins got their farm system jump started over night via a guy leaving after this year anyway and two free agent players from a year past.

[spoon]

What title do the Marlins have that they actually earned/built?

I can't give them either to be honest.

They are the Yankee's schizophrenic lil brother.

[spoon]

http://blogimages.thescore.com/djf/files/2012/11/miamilogo.jpg

[Freitag]

Is it amusing or sad that the first person I thought of when the trade went down was Spoon?

[A.J.]

Is it amusing or sad that the first person I thought of when the trade went down was Spoon?

I thought the exact same thing. I saw "Blue Jays megadeal" on ESPN and pictured him like a little kid on Christmas morning.

[spoon]

I thought the exact same thing. I saw "Blue Jays megadeal" on ESPN and pictured him like a little kid on Christmas morning.

it's actually bitter sweet for me

as this build has actually been fun to watch and I'm not sure most of this couldn't have been done (similar players over time) without giving up so much

there are no guarantees with prospects, I get that, but man I was big on two of those guys going the other way...a third was just starting to get praise too. A hard throwing lefty that never gets hit and has great control at such a young age is valuable, just like the 5 tool guy they got for the OF/CF in the future (power still off it seems?)

[Freitag]

I thought the exact same thing. I saw "Blue Jays megadeal" on ESPN and pictured him like a little kid on Christmas morning.

It could also be that Spoon is the only Jays fan I know. But good for him. The Yankees are declining fast, and the AL East will be interesting as hell to watch.

The thing is, though, the Red Sox assembled all this talent - fell apart. The Dodgers got some of their talent - still didn't make the playoffs.

[spoon]

bottom line that I get is you can't just be building and never make an adjustment to your plan when you get to the next stage...AA's plan wasn't to be in that mode forever, it was a step in a process. It's clear Toronto has moved on to the next step. Now they could use a coach...odd how that works.

[A.J.]

it's actually bitter sweet for me

as this build has actually been fun to watch and I'm not sure most of this couldn't have been done (similar players over time) without giving up so much

there are no guarantees with prospects, I get that, but man I was big on two of those guys going the other way...a third was just starting to get praise too. A hard throwing lefty that never gets hit and has great control at such a young age is valuable, just like the 5 tool guy they got for the OF/CF in the future (power still off it seems?)

I'm with you on sticking with the young talent (especially given the differing results of both the Nats and Red Sox last season) but with the "rise" of Baltimore last year, the AL East has gotten a lot tighter (like it was when I was a kid) and, from what I've read, the Jays decided to make a bold move.

[A.J.]

bottom line that I get is you can't just be building and never make an adjustment to your plan when you get to the next stage...AA's plan wasn't to be in that mode forever, it was a step in a process. It's clear Toronto has moved on to the next step. Now they could use a coach...odd how that works.

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