2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread

[hanso]

Privatise the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Frankie McDonald can do it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The cost of his Golf weekend alone with Tiger Woods could have prevented some jobs from being furloughed. What does he care? Its not like he worries about other peoples money.

[A.J.]

Privatise the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Frankie McDonald can do it.

If only he had been born in America.

[Syd]

Tell me again why we need a Federal department of education?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-arne-duncans-false-claim-of-pink-slips-for-teachers/2013/02/27/dac86324-8115-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_blog.html

Because vast swaths of the nation want to educate kids that 2+2=Jesus

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If those States want to continue pushing the earth is 6000 years old. As backwards as they are let them

Let them face the consequence as long I don't have to subsidize a teacher in Biloxi

[spoon]

If those States want to continue pushing the earth is 6000 years old. As backwards as they are let them

Let them face the consequence as long I don't have to subsidize a teacher in Biloxi

and there's the reason you're even worse

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Give Janet Napolitano a multi colored wig and big shoes

That dope said that there were long delays at points of entry however LAX isn't reporting anything unusual

This fucking administration and their lackeys are never held to account. It's pathetic that we have a president and his inner circle using the sequester to fear monger is just another example of theatrics

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and there's the reason you're even worse



Want a national democracy? Cowboy up and get the ball moving for an article V convention

[spoon]

cowboy up!?

:wallbash:


you just suck .

[sailor]

and there's the reason you're even worse

It really is almost comically shortsighted.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

cowboy up!?

:wallbash:


you just suck .


Man up sound better?

[hanso]

What we have here is a marine committing continuous acts of treason

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If we ever normalize relations with North Korea does Rodman become ambassador?


Hey Obama Kim Jong Un said to call him

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What we have here is a marine committing continuous acts of treason



If you're mentioning me, I'm a former Marine. Furthermore what high crimes and misdemeanors have I committed?

[hanso]

If you're mentioning me, I'm a former Marine. Furthermore what high crimes and misdemeanors have I committed?

We are at war sarge

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We are at war sarge




When did congress declare war?

The 1st amendment gets tossed out during war or military occupations?

[hanso]

When did congress declare war?

The 1st amendment gets tossed out during war or military occupations?

You are in violation of the The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ, 64 Stat. 109, 10 U.S.C. Chapter 47)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No I'm not. My 4 years active and inactive service expired. I am not subject to reactivation

[WRESTLINGFAN]

PS you need to read up on what treason.

Now some grunt in Afghanistan complaining on how the president and defense dept going on twitter or FB is subject to disciplinary action but that isn't treason

[hanso]

Stand down marine cease your treasonous ways at once

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Save the tar and feathers

Criticizing the government and it's elected leaders isn't treason

[Jujubees2]

If you're mentioning me, I'm a former Marine. Furthermore what high crimes and misdemeanors have I committed?

I thought there was no such thing as a former marine?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You can say former Marine.

There's no such thing as an Ex Marine

[Jujubees2]

You can say former Marine.

There's no such thing as an Ex Marine

From Commandant, General James F. Amos (via The Seahorse): “A Marine is a Marine. I set the policy two weeks ago – there’s no such thing as a former Marine. You’re a Marine, just in a different uniform and you’re in a different phase of your life. But you’ll always be a Marine because you went to Parris Island, San Diego or the hills of Quantico.”

[A.J.]

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[hanso]

Anyone know the grace of gawd war movie line O&A use?

Think it was war move/Edward G. Robinson

[sailor]

I thought there was no such thing as a former marine?

Like a senator?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Once a Marine always a Marine


I use Former Marine, never ex when used in a general sentence


Kind of like mentioning Clinton as Former President Bill Clinton, even though you can still refer to him as Mr President.

It's all semantics.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No money to keep illegal aliens locked up but there was money to give to the Syrians

What a shitbag this president is

[hanso]

No money to keep illegal aliens locked up but there was money to give to the Syrians

What a shitbag this president is

States rights they brought it on them selfs

[WRESTLINGFAN]

States rights they brought it on them selfs

It has nothing to do with states rights. The administration once again made an excuse to release thousands of people because of the sequester and punish Arizona. If there was an ICE detention facility near DC you think they would be released? Never because they would risk one of these people would rape or murder one of their precious family members.


Speaking of sequester, the administration keeps stepping in it.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/sequestration-airports_n_2807667.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Gotta go after an AR-15 and a 15 round magazine, but this is fine according to the politicians and pundits.


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[spoon]

yes, fine

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From a chicken in every pot to an armored vehicle on every block

[spoon]

oh you, stealing bullshit lines again!

WF you racist slut...see, it's easy!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Tell me Mr scaredy cat. Do you feel safe knowing that our streets might look like Kabul?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Way to brush off the waste and move on GOP

Mitt Palin and Trump scheduled for CPAC

Can the GOP just rename themselves as the Whigs?

[Bob Impact]

From a chicken in every pot to an armored vehicle on every block

Tell me Mr scaredy cat. Do you feel safe knowing that our streets might look like Kabul?

These are the ramblings of a madman.

[foodcourtdruide]

These are the ramblings of a madman.

haha this made me laugh. i think the streets will look more like the surface of Mars circa 1860.

[foodcourtdruide]

Way to brush off the waste and move on GOP

Mitt Palin and Trump scheduled for CPAC

Can the GOP just rename themselves as the Whigs?

I hope they call themselves the Afghan Whigs and ONLY play their hits.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

These are the ramblings of a madman.



Can you elaborate why these vehicles are needed ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

haha this made me laugh. i think the streets will look more like the surface of Mars circa 1860.



Exactly why am I paying property taxes? The pot holes around here are like craters

[foodcourtdruide]

Exactly why am I paying property taxes? The pot holes around here are like craters

If I lived on Mars I`d be shitting right now.
http://www.euronews.com/2013/03/05/xyz-comet-headed-to-mars-in-2014-impact-possible/

[spoon]

Tell me Mr scaredy cat. Do you feel safe knowing that our streets might look like Kabul?

is it safe?

[spoon]

Way to brush off the waste and move on GOP

Mitt Palin and Trump scheduled for CPAC

Can the GOP just rename themselves as the Whigs?

you know the rule, when you post doesn't get the response you're looking for, just post it 20 more times!

blah blah blah, PUKE (out yo mouth)

[spoon]

I hope they call themselves the Afghan Whigs and ONLY play their hits.

what hits?

you're thinking of the blanket tories

with their hit "Joe" or "Spelling"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who needs due process. We have another 4 years of that hip rock star president

You can now be turned into hamburger meat

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/eric-holder-drone-strikes-against-americans-on-u.s.-soil-are-legal/article/2523319#.UTdT3ol5mc0

[A.J.]

Who needs due process. We have another 4 years of that hip rock star president

You can now be turned into hamburger meat

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/eric-holder-drone-strikes-against-americans-on-u.s.-soil-are-legal/article/2523319#.UTdT3ol5mc0

Good. Then let's take out gang bangers.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Good. Then let's take out gang bangers.



How would MS-13 members get in state tuition and amnesty ?

[Jujubees2]

Good. Then let's take out gang bangers.

and then Walmarts!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and then Walmarts!



where would the Chinese sell their crap if that happened ?

[A.J.]

and then Walmarts!

Works for me!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Glad to see that the GOP has their priorities straight. I never knew Ashley Judd's tits were a threat to the economy or national security

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How pathetic is this administration? WH complaining that the sequester has caused the tours to be canceled

Most tour guides are volunteers. What's next? Will the heat, hot water and electricity be cut off?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There's a good old filibuster going on right now

Rand Paul has been speaking for almost 10 hours

[spoon]

http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/550x/44/4a/5f/444a5fc060b1eafbaafee07ba023c338.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Definitely not my type. Wouldn't wanna spoon with her

[spoon]

http://www.ctcms.nist.gov/oof/oof2/oof2logo2.png

[hanso]

There's a good old filibuster going on right now

Rand Paul has been speaking for almost 10 hours

This is how it should be done imo. I put on cspan for the first time in forever. The record setting number of these have been done mostly with out even being present as far as I know.

I put it on to see the the topic/feedback how its done. As far as the content it was just more looney libertarian rhetoric from Paul which had my switching it off before long.

He was about half way to the longest ever one done. Then he stopped to go to the tea room. The longest ever was done by Strom Thurmond

[hanso]

It has nothing to do with states rights. The administration once again made an excuse to release thousands of people because of the sequester and punish Arizona. If there was an ICE detention facility near DC you think they would be released? Never because they would risk one of these people would rape or murder one of their precious family members.


Speaking of sequester, the administration keeps stepping in it.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/sequestration-airports_n_2807667.html?utm_hp_ref=politics


In case you missed it, Fox has been fear mongering that ICE’s supervised release of undocumented immigrants means that a vicious killer is on his or her way to your neighborhood. (see above statement from a cafe set to be hit by drone)http://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=Ay5GWBeob_WIPLDYoIWcfVXxvZu9XwJ55OX7Ag,0hyf4g xos5gMeYojXCu59ipCJnHPbAAUG3Ml6Y2MIFIptwtF1AzBmi5a H1z3-q5yIN7oEPWePPNGwW3P92dZmytfij7Qz51gYfRCWAClybwRX1B B9NCs6ClHSCVRJcUSyz9HvA

Even though the New York Times reports they are “noncriminals and other low-risk offenders who do not have serious criminal histories.” The Times also noted, “Under supervised release, defendants in immigration cases have to adhere to a strict reporting schedule that might include attending appointments at a regional immigration office as well as wearing electronic monitoring bracelets, officials said.” Furthermore, as Media Matters pointed out, “(T)here is nothing unusual or illegal about supervised releases. This policy has been a regular part of Department of Homeland Security enforcement procedures since at least 2002.”

Before the cuts there was more deportations than all last administrations

NAPOLITANO: It’s within his power to do it. But it is so offensive, it’s impeachable.

[cougarjake13]

http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/550x/44/4a/5f/444a5fc060b1eafbaafee07ba023c338.jpg


love chicks with tattoos

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So who's going to supervise them if there's a sequester. That means they can roam free to commit more crimes. Also just because they were low risk illegal aliens means that they can not commit more violent crimes?

Those deportation numbers are inflated

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/09/u-s-cooks-the-books-to-show-record-no-of-deportations/

Just because something was practiced like catch and release by Bush doesn't make it right. Someone who isnt a democrat doesn't mean they can't be criticized

this move by the Obama administration was a calculated move to punish AZ. Amazing how there's no money for immigration enforcement and detention but there's money for presidential golf outings, vacations, fueling AF-1 to be in permanent campaign mode and everything else.

[spoon]

sigh :huh:

[Syd]

So, reducing the deficit has its downsides and Republicans are scrambling. They're not even trying to pretend they're about reducing deficit any more, they're literally just "if Obama done a thing it bad"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bin Ladens son in law will get a trial and due process which he is entitled to, however the Obama admin signed the NDAA

Constitutional rights for everyone else But if you're a citizen, yours might be shit canned

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The republicans don't give a shit about the deficit

They worship big bloated govt. they just don't know it

[Syd]

Bin Ladens son in law will get a trial and due process which he is entitled to, however the Obama admin signed the NDAA

Constitutional rights for everyone else But if you're a citizen, yours might be shit canned

due process is still involved

try pulling a gun on a cop and see how due process works, it isn't "YOU MUST HAVE JUDICIAL REVIEW OR ELSE BECAUSE CONSTITUTION"

it's highly circumstantial, bubby

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's a different situation altogether the cop is in imminent danger

[Syd]

ok, so a drone can't be used if people are in imminent danger?

i'm the first to cry foul over the police state and a bunch of yokels with no training running around Maricopa county looking like a fucking gendarmerie but drones used as outlined in Holder's letter isn't exactly capricious or arbitrary denial of due process

[hanso]

Ask a vague question get a vague answer. You would think an experienced lawmaker would know better.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There's nothing vague about asking the AG if it's constitutional to kill an American on American soil via drone.



Holder danced around the question like a typical lawyer/politician

[Syd]

Yes he danced around it by exactly describing two scenarios in which drone strikes would have happened -- December 7th or September 11th style events.

Just because you don't like Holder doesn't mean he didn't answer the question.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Totally different scenarios . Yes Bush got the warning Bin Laden determined to strike but there was no definite time and date. Now if an American citizen exchanged emails saying what specific day and time period during that day , FBI agents can go and arrest him by a sting operation for example


Besides wouldn't it be better to take him alive so you can get more info out of him


Holder was asked numerous amounts of times if the president can unilaterally declare an American as a terrorist and then kill him. Holder finally had to say it was unconstitutional

[spoon]

so in the end, something good did come of the question

that much I can't ignore

but the ulterior motives are there surely


yet again, this needed to outright stated and it needs to be addressed further in my mind

not as an inquisition or trial, but as pertaining to the reach and use of such weapons abroad and at home

[spoon]

the names involved aren't important, that part is purely politics

[hanso]

Yes he danced around it by exactly describing two scenarios in which drone strikes would have happened -- December 7th or September 11th style events.

Just because you don't like Holder doesn't mean he didn't answer the question.

He had to readdress the question to add 'enemy combatant " or the like.

Thought of a scenario after watching a show on the Oklahoma city bombing, a drone might have tracked McVeigh and shot him dead upon stepping out of the rental truck.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We got you elected with 95% of our vote even though Black UE rate is double the national rate.


Pay us back says the CBC



http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2013/03/12/congressional-black-caucus-calls-on-obama-to-diversify-cabinet?s_cid=rss:Ken-Walshs-Washington:congressional-black-caucus-calls-on-obama-to-diversify-cabinet

[spoon]

sigh

do tell the UE rate comps before Obama

much less how his cabinet would turn that around bc of more diversity is beyond me

he's picking his cab and no matter what you do someone will bitch

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I went back and looked at figures going back to 2001 and it's been double the rate

Obama was supposed to lift them out of their despair but they are still lagging

But hey at least it isn't 3 times the rate

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama once again showed that he really is a child. Like a little bitch he blames the secret service for the WH being closed for tours.

Cant he even lie correctly? Carney admitted during the press briefing that the WH itself axed the tours and not the secret service.

Nice move dickbag. Throw your own bodyguards under the bus.


It's expected. This president never takes accountability for anything.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The administration was caught in another lie. They had to admit that more than 2000 illegals were set free instead of just a few hundred

More lies . Instead of low level illegals more than 600 had committed more serious crimes.

Yup and this is the same government telling you that Obamacare would make things better.

What a bunch of lying deceitful incompetent hacks

[Syd]

we're all operating under the lie that our deficit is an issue, so anything that happens because of the bullshit sequestration isn't a big deal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is Obama Satan ?



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/the-bible-satan-obama_n_2900509.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D285321

[Jujubees2]

Is Obama Satan ?



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/the-bible-satan-obama_n_2900509.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D285321

I thought you already established that

[A.J.]

Looks like a very tanned Frank Langella.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I thought you already established that

Not at all


However if he was, Would he call for a ban on assault pitchforks ?

[Jujubees2]

Not at all


However if he was, Would he call for a ban on assault pitchforks ?

Nope. Only on those with more than one prong.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who will be the 1st person to see an Obama image in the bread of a grilled cheese sandwich

[keithy_19]

Nope. Only on those with more than one prong.

:laugh:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hillary released a video today supporting gay marriage. The 2016 cycle is more than 2 years away. I think it's more in regards to SCOTUS taking up DOMA in the coming months

Rob Portman's son came out of the closet and the former senator voiced his opinion in favor of it.


I think DOMA has a good chance of being struck down as it should be done.

[spoon]

Sigh

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Harry Reid continues to be the same piece of garbage as always.


He blamed sequestration on that accident in Nevada at a training base in which a mortar killed 7 Marines



Here's what Marine Corps officials said.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/19/marine_corps_rips_reid_pure_political_posturing_on _the_backs_of_those_dead_marines.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Show us your penis please



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9946210/Arizona-considers-anti-transgender-bathroom-Bill.html

[Bob Impact]

Show us your penis please



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9946210/Arizona-considers-anti-transgender-bathroom-Bill.html

Isn't this pretty simple? Pre-op: bathroom of your birth gender, post-op bathroom of your current gender.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Your department of Education at it again


http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/department-of-education-website-quotes-mao-Zedong


The following was made by one of their staff members



"The Kids' Zone website hosted by the National Center of Education Statistics earlier today featured a poorly chosen quote, intended to highlight the importance of teaching and learning, in the 'Quote of the Day' feature. This feature, which automatically generates one education-related quote per day from a database of quotes last updated in 2007, has been temporarily suspended pending a review of the database's contents."

Cant they run a program that blocks quotes from Mass murderers? Also the last time it was updated was 2007.


When Mao's quote was deleted there was the following generated

"Sorry there is no quote of the of the today"


A useless bureaucracy with a budget numbering in the tens of billions and they can't even generate something simple as Sorry, there is no quote of the day?

[Syd]

It's not a useless bureaucracy. A large part of America is trying to teach children that 2+2=Jesus and that God invented everything. Texas' bizarre cult of personality for white Jesus deprives kids of proper education.

[A.J.]

It's not a useless bureaucracy. A large part of America is trying to teach children that 2+2=Jesus and that God invented everything. Texas' bizarre cult of personality for white Jesus deprives kids of proper education.

And yet our schools are still churning out stupid children.

[sailor]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm not bothered by the quote.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's not a useless bureaucracy. A large part of America is trying to teach children that 2+2=Jesus and that God invented everything. Texas' bizarre cult of personality for white Jesus deprives kids of proper education.

If regions want to lag behind, let them. It shouldn't be your responsibility in one state to subsidize school lunches in a state 3000 miles away.


The country managed to survive 200 years without a Dept of education.

[sailor]

If regions want to lag behind, let them. It shouldn't be your responsibility in one state to subsidize school lunches in a state 3000 miles away.


The country managed to survive 200 years without a Dept of education.

And within a state, should you have to support a community 100 miles away?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And within a state, should you have to support a community 100 miles away?



Depends on how each states constitution is.

[brettmojo]

If regions want to lag behind, let them. It shouldn't be your responsibility in one state to subsidize school lunches in a state 3000 miles away.


The country managed to survive 200 years without a Dept of education.

We also managed to survive as a nation only regarding negroes as 2/3rds of a person too.

But you're right... how could there be any drawbacks of having a poor, uneducated backwards region near by?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f34yE9puJcQ/T6IX-eNzy7I/AAAAAAAAJKM/lI7LNC8QOlI/s1600/N-S+Korea+2003.jpg

But hey, as long as we save some cash for more tanks.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We also managed to survive as a nation only regarding negroes as 2/3rds of a person too.

But you're right... how could there be any drawbacks of having a poor, uneducated backwards region near by?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f34yE9puJcQ/T6IX-eNzy7I/AAAAAAAAJKM/lI7LNC8QOlI/s1600/N-S+Korea+2003.jpg

But hey, as long as we save some cash for more tanks.


1. Read the reason why they came to that decision . It was 3/5 of a person
2. So do you want a national democracy, 1 size fits all approach?
3. I'm not a republican, we have enough tanks and military hardware

[spoon]

The wfool strikes again!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In North Korea everyone is equal. How's that turning out?

[spoon]

Depends on how each states constitution is.

Cute. Petopia has the BEST schools!

[spoon]

In North Korea everyone is equal. How's that turning out?


As well as one of your posts.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

As well as one of your posts.


Nice one Kim Jong Oof !!!

[Jujubees2]

In North Korea everyone is equal. How's that turning out?

Don't know. You should ask this guy.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/12/06/2012-12-06-dennis-rodman-3_4_r536_c534.jpg?1b79b3da202957124496e3768cfb7b67 cdb10c81

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Don't know. You should ask this guy.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/12/06/2012-12-06-dennis-rodman-3_4_r536_c534.jpg?1b79b3da202957124496e3768cfb7b67 cdb10c81


He got to leave

[brettmojo]

In North Korea everyone is equal.

They sure are. I'm sure the peasants of North Korea are sure made at the US and other countries for imposing all those new trade sanctions on them not letting them get things like yachts and luxury items anymore.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They sure are. I'm sure the peasants of North Korea are sure made at the US and other countries for imposing all those new trade sanctions on them not letting them get things like yachts and luxury items anymore.

That's communism for you.

Even if there were no trade sanctions, North Korea would still be a miserable place

[WRESTLINGFAN]

CNN reports that Michelle Bachman is under investigation for ethics violations due to improper use of funds during her failed presidential campaign

[spoon]

Nice one Kim Jong Oof !!!



You really suck at this.

[Syd]

And within a state, should you have to support a community 100 miles away?

Therein lies the problem with libertarianism, it's basically reductio ad absurdum

If we had some state level bullshit, it would be county level, eventually down to like "basement rights" because "NO, FUCK YOU DAD"

[hanso]

And in our case taking what the Paul's say as doctrine makes for libertarianism.

for WF

http://s5.dailypaul.com/

[hanso]

It's not a useless bureaucracy. A large part of America is trying to teach children that 2+2=Jesus and that God invented everything. Texas' bizarre cult of personality for white Jesus deprives kids of proper education.

iman perry is hoarding gold in preparation for succession

all the more reason to keep DOE, as to push the loony bins like him over the edge.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Therein lies the problem with libertarianism, it's basically reductio ad absurdum

If we had some state level bullshit, it would be county level, eventually down to like "basement rights" because "NO, FUCK YOU DAD"

States have their own dept of education.


Also there's no mention on the federal government maintaining education rights in article I section VIII of the US Constitution.

That's why we have a federal republic and not a national democracy. You can move out of your municipality/state.


It happens all the time.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And in our case taking what the Paul's say as doctrine makes for libertarianism.

for WF

http://s5.dailypaul.com/

As compared to the daily Obama which is just rehashed speeches and goofy catch phrases and no idea on how an economy works on a micro or macro level.


Print more money is not a viable plan.

[spoon]

States have their own dept of education.


Also there's no mention on the federal government maintaining education rights in article I section VIII of the US Constitution.

That's why we have a federal republic and not a national democracy. You can move out of your municipality/state.


It happens all the time.

of you can move bc the US is obviously not following your so sacred document to the t as you'd like

so sorry

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

of you can move bc the US is obviously not following your so sacred document to the t as you'd like

so sorry

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Yea that Freedom of religion/from religion and other pesky amendments in the bill of rights are to be mocked.

How about many Americans are ignorant and don't know basic civics.

[A.J.]

How about many Americans are ignorant and don't know basic civics.

I know MY basic Civic!

http://luxuriantcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/black-2012-new-Honda-Civic-hatchback-front.jpg

[spoon]

Yea that Freedom of religion/from religion and other pesky amendments in the bill of rights are to be mocked.

How about many Americans are ignorant and don't know basic civics.

mocked, or improved upon?

still a fool

a huge, festering sore of a fool on humanity

[WRESTLINGFAN]

mocked, or improved upon?

still a fool

a huge, festering sore of a fool on humanity

Yes mocked

The same document your type says is outdated


There's an amendment process if changes are to be made.

You're ignorance shows no limit

[Syd]

The Constitution and Bill of Rights are only basic guidelines and agreements, they're over-arching. You can't amend the constitution every single time a law may negatively affect a white guy from New England.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The constitution & bill of rights puts a check on the federal government. That's not overarching.

There are certain powers the Feds have, everything else is left to the states per the 10th

[spoon]

Yes mocked

The same document your type says is outdated


There's an amendment process if changes are to be made.

You're ignorance shows no limit

:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So which way does SCOTUS go in regards to DOMA and Prop 8 ?

[hanso]

So which way does SCOTUS go in regards to DOMA and Prop 8 ?

Just wonder if their wearing birkenstocks and eating panera bread

[WRESTLINGFAN]

DWS is complaining that her precious staffers cant eat healthy due to the sequester

[Syd]

The constitution & bill of rights puts a check on the federal government. That's not overarching.

There are certain powers the Feds have, everything else is left to the states per the 10th

Yes, but the Constitution before the 14th is basically a suicide pact between the North and South and the whole states right spiel is leftovers, the appendix of democracy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The 14th isn't a blanket pact for everything. If that was the case the 10th would have been repealed

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This charm offensive by Barack is a fools errand


It won't work. He's not Clinton.

[Syd]

The 14th isn't a blanket pact for everything. If that was the case the 10th would have been repealed

the 14th fundamentally changed the Constitution because the original '89 Constitution was fundamentally fucking stupid

"states rights" are profoundly idiotic and the natural course of action because of it was the civil war, because some people like you only want laws that inhibit others and they throw a hissyfit when a law inhibits them

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the 14th fundamentally changed the Constitution because the original '89 Constitution was fundamentally fucking stupid

"states rights" are profoundly idiotic and the natural course of action because of it was the civil war, because some people like you only want laws that inhibit others and they throw a hissyfit when a law inhibits them

Not at all. If California wants to be a giant welfare state, let them, but don't come crying to CT 3000 miles away to bail them out. If NY wants a 7 round limit, even though I disagree with it, its their law, just don't make it a universal law for the whole country


So if you want a national democracy, when will you advocate for a national dog leash law?


You have this one size fits all approach. I'm not sure if you ever left the east coast , however life is very different in Montana and Idaho.

[KnoxHarrington]

the 14th fundamentally changed the Constitution because the original '89 Constitution was fundamentally fucking stupid

"states rights" are profoundly idiotic and the natural course of action because of it was the civil war, because some people like you only want laws that inhibit others and they throw a hissyfit when a law inhibits them

The decade or two before the Civil War shows what bullshit the concept of "states rights" is. The South kept forcing the states that had abolished slavery to help them defend and enforce it, with crap like the Fugitive Slave Act, and wanted to force territories to allow slavery regardless of the wishes of the people who lived there. It's always been a bullshit notion.

I'd point out, too, that even the original, unamended Constitution greatly increased the power of the federal government over the states, making it clear that the federal government was the supreme power of the nation. So we tried this whole thing of letting the states set their own path, and it was an absolute clusterfuck.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Confederacy did not have states rights.


Wanted to be part of the country? Your state had to be a slave state.

Nobody's complaining that CO and WA passed laws in regards to marijuana legalization.

[Syd]

however life is very different in Montana and Idaho.

Those states are largely unimportant. California's welfare state is entirely self-contained. Texas is the only state seeking federal aid (the push for block granting programs so that money can be re-directed to fix budget gaps) and last but not least it's not about national laws, it's about supremacy of federal government because in the backwater states, it's cheap to buy politicians...like, cheaper than buying oblasts. Buying representatives at the state level is barely in the 5 digit range because of often times the lack of salary and the low cost of elections. Buying representatives at the federal level costs significantly more.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those states are largely unimportant. California's welfare state is entirely self-contained. Texas is the only state seeking federal aid (the push for block granting programs so that money can be re-directed to fix budget gaps) and last but not least it's not about national laws, it's about supremacy of federal government because in the backwater states, it's cheap to buy politicians...like, cheaper than buying oblasts. Buying representatives at the state level is barely in the 5 digit range because of often times the lack of salary and the low cost of elections. Buying representatives at the federal level costs significantly more.

California is borrowing from the rest of the country to keep their welfare state alive.

No ones disagreeing that in certain cases, the feds have exclusive powers, however the top down approach is why red states receive more than they contribute. It all ties in to the progressive income tax, federal reserve and 17th amendment.


Instead of representing their states, Senators now go to DC to see how much they can take back and tell to their voters look, I got a bike path for you and the suckers in the other states are picking up the freight.

[Syd]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZT

wrong

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/why-do-some-states-feast-federal-spending-not-others

California "loses" 20 cents on the dollar subsidizing other states' federal spending

[spoon]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZT

wrong

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/why-do-some-states-feast-federal-spending-not-others

California "loses" 20 cents on the dollar subsidizing other states' federal spending

just stop with all your facts and live in the fucking intellectual void won't you!?

[spoon]

yet I would like to see a more recent look

[WRESTLINGFAN]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZT

wrong

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/why-do-some-states-feast-federal-spending-not-others

California "loses" 20 cents on the dollar subsidizing other states' federal spending

Sorry Hoss

No ones arguing about how much blue states subsidize the others. Ive stated that numerous times.



Want to end that? Fix and simplify the tax system.



If CA wants to be a welfare state, and TX wants to teach that man walked with dinosaurs, let them, but also don't go crying to the other states.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Things arent all that great in the Golden state as that right wing rag Huff Post reports.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/california-poverty_n_2132920.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

just stop with all your facts from 2004 and live in the fucking intellectual void won't you!?

Fixed

[spoon]

Fixed

cute

you literally copy EVERYTHING

my point, the fixed thing I just did to you

you're pretty much incapable of independent thought or posting

pathetic

[spoon]

Things arent all that great in the Golden state as that right wing rag Huff Post reports.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/california-poverty_n_2132920.html

I'm quite sure you posted this a few times now.

[spoon]

Sorry Hoss

No ones arguing about how much blue states subsidize the others. Ive stated that numerous times.



Want to end that? Fix and simplify the tax system.



If CA wants to be a welfare state, and TX wants to teach that man walked with dinosaurs, let them, but also don't go crying to the other states.

this couldn't be more idiotic a statement if you tried for months

[WRESTLINGFAN]

this couldn't be more idiotic a statement if you tried for months



So how many more thousands of pages of tax laws does your naive little mind want?


Just wait until 2014 when your beloved Obamacare kicks in. That will be a few more thousand.


Or are you still upset that it wasn't full single payer?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

cute

you literally copy EVERYTHING

my point, the fixed thing I just did to you

you're pretty much incapable of independent thought or posting

pathetic

If data is going to be posted should it be from almost a decade ago?

Barack Obama was some obscure wet behind the ears backbencher state Senator prior to the '04 DNC

[spoon]

So how many more thousands of pages of tax laws does your naive little mind want?


Just wait until 2014 when your beloved Obamacare kicks in. That will be a few more thousand.


Or are you still upset that it wasn't full single payer?

now I'm asking for more pages of tax laws

how stupid are you?

do please try to keep up

[spoon]

If data is going to be posted should it be from almost a decade ago?

Barack Obama was some obscure wet behind the ears backbencher state Senator prior to the '04 DNC

first point, I pointed that out plenty and before you but thanks for making that point TO ME

second, good

[WRESTLINGFAN]

now I'm asking for more pages of tax laws

how stupid are you?

do please try to keep up

Yes you are by your continued support for a progressive income tax.


Also notice the amount of pages don't decrease


Boy are you a slow one

[spoon]

Yes you are by your continued support for a progressive income tax.


Also notice the amount of pages don't decrease


Boy are you a slow one

you're a FUCKING IDIOT

to say you drift from topic to topic randomly and insanely is putting it lightly

just stop

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you're a FUCKING IDIOT

to say you drift from topic to topic randomly and insanely is putting it lightly

just stop

Your silence speaks volumes!!!

[spoon]

sure does

what's next, tie in the some drone talk linked to stem cells? perhaps Obama on vacation when we're talking budgets and sec of state noms? nah, let's go with redistricting tied to fast and furious followed by a quick national language need

woooo

now were talking!!! yankees will win the Monday night raw mid term elections! WOooo!

:wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This economy is taking off 0.4% GDP rise

This is like someone who weighed 300 4 years ago and is now 295

[spoon]

Is it?

[Jujubees2]

This economy is taking off 0.4% GDP rise

This is like someone who weighed 300 4 years ago and is now 295

Hey that's better than if they now weigh 305 pounds...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

4 years in and not sustained growth of something like 3-4% ?

How much more time does he need? Shit can the 22nd amendment and allow Barack another term?

[spoon]

Yep, that's what jj said. EXACTLY!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wasn't replying to JJ directly. Just in general

Many Branch Barackians believe he needs more time

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I know he does this all the time but Jose Serrano D, NY advocates unlimited terms

[spoon]

I wasn't replying to JJ directly. Just in general

Many Branch Barackians believe he needs more time

Normal sop for you... random bullshit, can't keep focus for a fucking second fuckwad fool.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Normal sop for you... random bullshit, can't keep focus for a fucking second fuckwad fool.



Whatever dopey


0.4 % Growth. Spout all the tripe you want. It still doesn't change anything


Barack is inept of knowing how an economy works

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How do we improve?


Keynesian economics?

More "investments in green energy" ?

Stimulus?

Higher Taxes?

Roads and Bridges. Schools, Hire more teachers and cops. Balanced approach baby!!!!

How about what Cyprus did? Tax deposits . How about anything over $50,000 gets a 10% tax?

[spoon]

That's easy, tax cuts for upper level earners for trickle down and of course states/gun rights! The CONSTITUTION is the BIBLE!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

High speed rail now!!!!!

[spoon]

Why yes, that, like the other things you randomly listed, are surely my takes! Fool.

[spoon]

U can't think high speed rail without thinking of me!

[Jujubees2]

U can't think high speed rail without thinking of me!

Speaking of high speed rail...

California Beaming (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/california-beaming/)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When the big quake happens then that will be a waste of 68 billion dollars.


The other disaster is the state pension system.

[spoon]

When the big quake happens then that will be a waste of 68 billion dollars.


The other disaster is the state pension system.


Just let sema take care of it then! And hell, why ever build there again, they might have a natural diasaster!

[Jujubees2]

Just let sema take care of it then! And hell, why ever build there again, they might have a natural diasaster!

Or anywhere on the east coast (hurricanes), or the midwest (tornadoes)...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Atlanta public school system in trouble for faking test scores.

Thanks Dubya for NCLB and federalizing education even more

[spoon]

Yes, the program made them do it...no matter how bad it truly is. Also, w once again creates the very problem he and his kind love to cry about. Think FEMA under him...so bad, bc it was HIS program when there. The gop love to fuck it all up and then claim it is big gov all the while taking from the till. Cuts are only on the table when they aren't in charge and cleaning up their own messes...loke our world right now and this plan. Yet teachers doing this have nothing to do with any policy on education no matter how fd up. They were stupid on their own.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How about returning education back to the states and eliminate all of this?


But hey, we should all pay for head start and NCLB, school breakfast and lunch hundreds even thousands of miles away


Yay National Democracy

[spoon]

Fuck the poor and national education objectives. Yeah! States are the true victims here. We need more lunch money for states.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If the states didn't have to send so much to DC, the poor would have better education, nutrition in their own states


Look how much CA sends to Washington yet the anchor babies lag behind

[spoon]

California should be able to declare war on the dc of col! Fuck a national armed forces too, state banners and oaths that may or may not be not honored like medieval europe! Yes, YES! No more waiting months to see a new episode of game of thrones! Live set bitch!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fuck the returning war vets and the backlog of disability claims. After all to raise and Support the military is mandated by the constitution. Sorry Sergeant after your 4 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, There's a school district in east LA who needs that money more

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wrong. States can not declare war.


Read your constitution. You might learn something. Hell you might be able to teach the president a thing or 2

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yesterday , Barack unveiled a plan to map the brain. Even with GPS finding his is impossible

[spoon]

Fuck the returning war vets and the backlog of disability claims. After all to raise and Support the military is mandated by the constitution. Sorry Sergeant after your 4 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, There's a school district in east LA who needs that money more

so you think it's a funding issue?

and it's a choice BETWEEN helping education or helping vets?

come on man

it's a problem created by who? (clue, the war/wars was started when?)...continued by who? and the comp systems that don't mesh instituted by who? and yes, still an F'N mess and not fixed yet by Obama and it's disgusting. Yet here we go again, blame, hate, diversion and divisive tactics versus you actually giving a fuck.

[spoon]

Wrong. States can not declare war.


Read your constitution. You might learn something. Hell you might be able to teach the president a thing or 2

you are sooo fucking thick

i get when someone is laying into me as a joke...:wallbash:

[spoon]

Yesterday , Barack unveiled a plan to map the brain. Even with GPS finding his is impossible

hoooo hoooo!

[Jujubees2]

WF, how's this for state's rights?

North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/north-carolina-religion-bill_n_3003401.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My personal opinion is that I'm against state religion but NC has the right because the bill of rights restricts the federal government from establishing a state religion

With their right comes responsibility. If a Christian school or a church is destroyed by fire, hurricane etc. They get no federal money to rebuild. Let the state pick up the freight. I shouldn't have to pay to rebuild

[sailor]

There's no way a state religion will be allowed, nor should it.

[A.J.]

If Utah doesn't have LDS as the state religion, then nobody else even comes close to making it happen.

[spoon]

There's no way a state religion will be allowed, nor should it.

reason in this thread

how DARE YOU SIR!?

[spoon]

My personal opinion is that I'm against state religion but NC has the right because the bill of rights restricts the federal government from establishing a state religion

With their right comes responsibility. If a Christian school or a church is destroyed by fire, hurricane etc. They get no federal money to rebuild. Let the state pick up the freight. I shouldn't have to pay to rebuild

ooof

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Our noble and benevolent President is giving up 5% of his salary due to the sequester

Not to worry, the lavish parties, exquisite vacations and golf trips as well living in opulence while gorging himself off the largesse of taxpayers will continue

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Colbert Busch vs Sanford for SC district 1 for House

Sanford thanked Gawwwwdddddd for his primary victory

[spoon]

Our noble and benevolent President is giving up 5% of his salary due to the sequester

Not to worry, the lavish parties, exquisite vacations and golf trips as well living in opulence while gorging himself off the largesse of taxpayers will continue

thank gawwwwwwwdddd you're so unbiased and here to keep everyone up to date on a selfish president taking a cut

[WRESTLINGFAN]

With his laziness, he should forego at least 50%

[spoon]

sure thing wf

when one thinks Obama, lazy just stands out so prominently

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Must I post this again?



<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HZShg8Vu_ik" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Great!!! And when it all burns down AGAIN they can blame capitalism. Then write a new "regulatory reform" bill with the names of two of the culprits on it that ignores Fannie and Freddie and their ruinous role.



http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/040313-650384-obama-wants-banks-to-loosen-lending-standards.htm

[spoon]

Must I post this again?



<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HZShg8Vu_ik" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

oh you must, bc that will be his legacy

a man bullshitting on an interview with his wife claiming to be an ordinary man and ties to his actual birthplace

but you know, run with it and please do post all over bc it does nothing but solidify you point oh so well

50% cut, lazy...got it

asshole wf

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nice way to spin it

Just joking that he's lazy. How naive

Golf, fundraising, lavish trips, speeches with empty rhetoric

Hey you coal miners in WV. You don't know hard labor. That Barack is a work horse

[spoon]

Nice way to spin it

Just joking that he's lazy. How naive

Golf, fundraising, lavish trips, speeches with empty rhetoric

Hey you coal miners in WV. You don't know hard labor. That Barack is a work horse

spin huh

you're very enlightened and surely a harder worker as one could only imagine

the things you focus on, surely are the main points to say the least

vacation (less than most presidents), travels home (so fucking what), his pay (really) and now a quote where someone is showing humility and poking fun at himself/linking to his home in a quaint way...wow, terrible shit

[WRESTLINGFAN]

spin huh

you're very enlightened and surely a harder worker as one could only imagine

the things you focus on, surely are the main points to say the least

vacation (less than most presidents), travels home (so fucking what), his pay (really) and now a quote where someone is showing humility and poking fun at himself/linking to his home in a quaint way...wow, terrible shit

Yes I am.


Vacationing in a shitty economy. While he excoriates everyone. Luxury golf outings while bitching about poor immigrant kids being kicked off head start and the rest of the bellyaching.

Last night the lowlife uses cops as props to promote gun control then whores himself out to SF to billionaires in campaign mode.


Big deal $1,700 a month from a tax free salary he draws. That Barack is really going to rough it.

[spoon]

and you expect him or any other president to live the life of Mother Teresa I suppose...when it's not your guy in there of course

golf, who gives a fuck really?

he's a human and in the top office this country

and vacation with a young family

what an ass!

just shut the fuck up

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So the President can't be called out for being a hypocrite? He lectures everyone else but he lavishes in luxury while the country burns.



I don't worship public servants.

Fucking lemming

[WRESTLINGFAN]

millions of families havent been on vacations for years and due to this awful economy probably wont, but this president not only goes on multiple lavish ones, He takes separate ones.

[epo]

millions of families havent been on vacations for years and due to this awful economy probably wont, but this president not only goes on multiple lavish ones, He takes separate ones.

Jesus Christ you have a hard-on for Obama.

If he solved cancer, you'd blame him for the common cold.

Your posts are those of an irrational asshole.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jesus Christ you have a hard-on for Obama.

If he solved cancer, you'd blame him for the common cold.

Your posts are those of an irrational asshole.


Do you know how idiotic you sound ? A cure for cancer?


This president can't even get his budget proposals to pass .


But heck he's an expert in medicine along with the auto industry and financial sector

[Syd]

Just four years after the worst shock to the economy since the Great Depression, U.S. corporate profits are stronger than ever.

In the third quarter, corporate earnings were $1.75 trillion, up 18.6% from a year ago, according to last week'si gross domestic product report. That took after-tax profits to their greatest percentage of GDP in history.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/03/news/economy/record-corporate-profits/index.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When there's giveaways and handouts to companies like Monsanto GM and GE of course those profits are up


Speaking of Monsanto the corporatist president allowed the Monsanto rider to remain

[A.J.]

and you expect him or any other president to live the life of Mother Teresa I suppose...when it's not your guy in there of course

golf, who gives a fuck really?

he's a human and in the top office this country

and vacation with a young family

what an ass!

just shut the fuck up

I wouldn't care except that Obama doesn't get nearly the same scorn from the media as when Bush would go to his ranch. Also, Bush gave up golfing after the Iraq War started so as not to insult the wounded troops.

I've always said that Presidents should be able to get out every so often. They're basically locked up in the White House 24/7. I know I'D go nuts if I had to live like that. And in this day and age, it's not like they're going to be out of touch if they take some time off.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In total amount of vacation days, I acknowledge Obama didn't take as much as his predecessors however its the huge cost at a time when the economy is still in shambles.


Carter had double digit inflation, UE and Int rates but his vacations were frugal and he sold the Presidential Yacht.

This president bitches about the 1% tells everyone else they need to sacrifice and do without.

If the economy was growing at even a modest GDP rate and UE was in the 6% rate. This wouldn't be an issue.


Sure Obama has the right to some time outside the WH but he could be less extravagant.

[Syd]

The economy isn't in shambles. Hardworking people like GE, Ford and Alcoa are making plenty of money.

[spoon]

So the President can't be called out for being a hypocrite? He lectures everyone else but he lavishes in luxury while the country burns.



I don't worship public servants.

Fucking lemming

worship versus giving a fuck if a guy has a vacation with his family and golfs on as a hobby

oooooo

lemming, ha

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Less people in the workforce than 30 years ago. GDP at 0.4% The feds balance sheet at over 3 trillion. Food stamp usage close to 50 million. This economy is not on the rebound.


If your company is a defense contractor or in bed with the gov't. Times are great.

[spoon]

Do you know how idiotic you sound ? A cure for cancer?


This president can't even get his budget proposals to pass .


But heck he's an expert in medicine along with the auto industry and financial sector

yes, to PASS

wonder why?

[spoon]

When there's giveaways and handouts to companies like Monsanto GM and GE of course those profits are up


Speaking of Monsanto the corporatist president allowed the Monsanto rider to remain

yah, that's HILARIOUS

monsanto is his gig

[WRESTLINGFAN]

worship versus giving a fuck if a guy has a vacation with his family and golfs on as a hobby

oooooo

lemming, ha

F-O-C-U-S



He doesn't go on vaca's with his family. The last trip was a boys only golf trip while the rest of the family went to Aspen.


Also there's this thing called the economy which is not recovering.


I'll say it again. If GDP was at 3% then this wouldn't be an issue


Why doesn't he visit his deadbeat aunt or drunk uncle both illegals living in Boston. How about a trip to see his half brother in Kenya living on chickenfeed wages.


Can't do that. Hitting the links and shaved ice is his right gawddddddd damn it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yah, that's HILARIOUS

monsanto is his gig

Yes the same Monsanto whose top executives are in the FDA.

[spoon]

F-O-C-U-S



He doesn't go on vaca's with his family. The last trip was a boys only golf trip while the rest of the family went to Aspen.


Also there's this thing called the economy which is not recovering.


I'll say it again. If GDP was at 3% then this wouldn't be an issue


Why doesn't he visit his deadbeat aunt or drunk uncle both illegals living in Boston. How about a trip to see his half brother in Kenya living on chickenfeed wages.


Can't do that. Hitting the links and shaved ice is his right gawddddddd damn it.

Focus!? You don't make any sense ever. Focus on this ridiculous revisit on your scrutiny of his vacations and "extravagance" bc it has golf and his home state involved...which is a part of our country nonetheless. So I ask you fool, what was off focus when I replied completely on topic? The fact that I disagree with your bullshit that to be ok with it is worshipping a man, versus knowing it's no big deal.

and you think economies get fixed like flat tires...this take on it is fucking stupid levels of extreme too, myopic at best for your own purposes. yet sure, golf and shaved ice...that's what ails the country and him visiting some little known relatives to open more BULLSHIT from the likes of you and your ilk would just be soooo smart.

so do try playing tennis without a net and hear the other side of arguments versus just living in some completely tripe filled world of hate for a president no matter what he does. good or bad, for better or worse, it simply doesn't matter to you. the only thing that does is archaic bullshit and falling in lines drawn up in your head

focus indeed fucko

[spoon]

Yes the same Monsanto whose top executives are in the FDA.

entered into the bill in congress under the cloak of unknown sources...hmmm

OBAMA!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Focus!? You don't make any sense ever. Focus on this ridiculous revisit on your scrutiny of his vacations and "extravagance" bc it has golf and his home state involved...which is a part of our country nonetheless. So I ask you fool, what was off focus when I replied completely on topic? The fact that I disagree with your bullshit that to be ok with it is worshipping a man, versus knowing it's no big deal.

and you think economies get fixed like flat tires...this take on it is fucking stupid levels of extreme too, myopic at best for your own purposes. yet sure, golf and shaved ice...that's what ails the country and him visiting some little known relatives to open more BULLSHIT from the likes of you and your ilk would just be soooo smart.

so do try playing tennis without a net and hear the other side of arguments versus just living in some completely tripe filled world of hate for a president no matter what he does. good or bad, for better or worse, it simply doesn't matter to you. the only thing that does is archaic bullshit and falling in lines drawn up in your head

focus indeed fucko


Yes focus. Focus on the economy in the shitter and his constantly berating the rich while living like a king on our dime . Crying wolf but yet taking expensive trips, having exquisite opulent parties in the WH

[WRESTLINGFAN]

entered into the bill in congress under the cloak of unknown sources...hmmm

OBAMA!



Yea that's right. The same Obama who said he would go line by line.


He Lies!!!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nice cheap jab on your economy take. 4 years and still not even a small improvement. The stimulus on top of more borrowed money and UE is still close to 8%

Romney deserved to lose. He played the collegial role and said the same tripe that Oh that Obamas a nice guy but we disagree. Bullshit!!

He's a Chicago thug and a ruthless fucker. Someone with a spine would have taken him down and beat him as his own game

Don't worry though Chris Christie is the savior and 2016 will be "his time"

[spoon]

Yes focus. Focus on the economy in the shitter and his constantly berating the rich while living like a king on our dime . Crying wolf but yet taking expensive trips, having exquisite opulent parties in the WH

so focus on your bullshit points that have little to nothing to do with a man having time off and a hobby, not actual focus...got it, you are quite the fool

[spoon]

Nice cheap jab on your economy take. 4 years and still not even a small improvement. The stimulus on top of more borrowed money and UE is still close to 8%

Romney deserved to lose. He played the collegial role and said the same tripe that Oh that Obamas a nice guy but we disagree. Bullshit!!

He's a Chicago thug and a ruthless fucker. Someone with a spine would have taken him down and beat him as his own game

Don't worry though Chris Christie is the savior and 2016 will be "his time"

you don't just want to fuck animals huh?! you want to have sex with Obama

now it all makes sense

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you don't just want to fuck animals huh?! you want to have sex with Obama

now it all makes sense



A. I support gays getting married
B. Nice try to reconcile the 2 issues together

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so focus on your bullshit points that have little to nothing to do with a man having time off and a hobby, not actual focus...got it, you are quite the fool



Focus on a hypocrite lecturing everyone else but yet he fails to set an example

[spoon]

Focus on a hypocrite lecturing everyone else but yet he fails to set an example

your example is stupidity

[spoon]

A. I support gays getting married
B. Nice try to reconcile the 2 issues together

ok, you just want to have sex with Obama...and you support the possibility of marrying him

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Unlike Congressgump Louie Gohmert I'm not obsessed what gay people do.

I wish more same sex couples would move to my neighborhood. They are some of the nicest people around and property values would go up since a lot of them make more than the median income

[Jujubees2]

Unlike Congressgump Louie Gohmert I'm not obsessed what gay people do.

I wish more same sex couples would move to my neighborhood. They are some of the nicest people around and property values would go up since a lot of them make more than the median income

Quick everyone, head to Connecticut!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i23/jeff_bennion/Lesbians/2233425468_c05318c849.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just make sure you don't have scary looking guns

[spoon]

Quick everyone, head to Connecticut!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i23/jeff_bennion/Lesbians/2233425468_c05318c849.jpg

not scary looking on the gun side of the arm, but the bye bye side perhaps

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Quick everyone, head to Connecticut!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i23/jeff_bennion/Lesbians/2233425468_c05318c849.jpg



And we don't have a helmet law for bikes

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol:

[A.J.]

And we don't have a helmet law for bikes

Or dykes.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Break out the Champagne. This economy is back baby!!!! Barack is the savior. UE down to 7.6%


While Barack is slapping Biden on the ass, the reason it ticked down. More people dropped out of the labor force and more gave up looking

Barack needs more time right?


Obama voters and supporters you deserve all the bad news you get

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Let me guess. The suicide voters will blame sequester instead of an inept child and his failed policies

[spoon]

Let me guess. The suicide voters will blame sequester instead of an inept child and his failed policies

it was stated to have this impact since day 1

nice try

and they get what they deserve!?

this is our country you are routinely against for the sake of some stupid posting mantra

i hated plenty of W policy, but when he did right and even when he didn't I hoped there would be good outcomes somehow

but hey, it's all about some imaginary lines right!?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

it was stated to have this impact since day 1

nice try

and they get what they deserve!?

this is our country you are routinely against for the sake of some stupid posting mantra

i hated plenty of W policy, but when he did right and even when he didn't I hoped there would be good outcomes somehow

but hey, it's all about some imaginary lines right!?

The sequester is a false excuse. We were told by our political class that there would be hundreds of job losses. People have gave up looking and also people exhausted their UE Benefits. Companies are not hiring because they see more and more the cancer of Obamacare and the future headaches when that bitch becomes fully implemented. Those 2 crybabies the Castro Twins deemed the up and coming rising stars are complaining that Texas wont take the bait. Hey Hermanos. Live by the court , die by the court. They were cumming in their pants when the individual mandate was upheld as a tax but didnt like when the medicaid expansion was voluntary.




Yes they do. Only problem is that the rest of us have to suffer for the fault of 60 million voters who were dumb enough to reelect that clod.

I never hoped for continued bad news. I wish I was wrong back in 2008 when some of my friends chided me for predicting that this president and his policies would not bring a recovery.

I don't hate Murrrrrrrica. Cant say the same for a lot of Murrrrrrricans


How much time does our noble rockstar need?


Spare the Faux patriotism.

[spoon]

The sequester is a false excuse. We were told by our political class that there would be hundreds of job losses. People have gave up looking and also people exhausted their UE Benefits. Companies are not hiring because they see more and more the cancer of Obamacare and the future headaches when that bitch becomes fully implemented. Those 2 crybabies the Castro Twins deemed the up and coming rising stars are complaining that Texas wont take the bait. Hey Hermanos. Live by the court , die by the court. They were cumming in their pants when the individual mandate was upheld as a tax but didnt like when the medicaid expansion was voluntary.




Yes they do. Only problem is that the rest of us have to suffer for the fault of 60 million voters who were dumb enough to reelect that clod.

I never hoped for continued bad news. I wish I was wrong back in 2008 when some of my friends chided me for predicting that this president and his policies would not bring a recovery.

I don't hate Murrrrrrrica. Cant say the same for a lot of Murrrrrrricans


How much time does our noble rockstar need?


Spare the Faux patriotism.

patriotism aside, this has little to do with that sentiment

you are just plain rooting against recovery, period

and you nitpick every bullshit thing he does and is so even some valid arguments like the NDAA and patriot act (ironic and so well named) aren't even taken seriously

bottom line here is you are dismissing the sequester bc you know it DOES have an impact, and you think this pres shouldn't spend a dime bc you don't like his policy

that's is, you don't hate the country as you so perfectly put it (racist), you just hate the portion that doesn't either look like you or think (ha, that's putting it nicely) like you.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

patriotism aside, this has little to do with that sentiment

you are just plain rooting against recovery, period

and you nitpick every bullshit thing he does and is so even some valid arguments like the NDAA and patriot act (ironic and so well named) aren't even taken seriously

bottom line here is you are dismissing the sequester bc you know it DOES have an impact, and you think this pres shouldn't spend a dime bc you don't like his policy

that's is, you don't hate the country as you so perfectly put it (racist), you just hate the portion that doesn't either look like you or think (ha, that's putting it nicely) like you.

THERE IS NO RECOVERY!!!!

How am I rooting against something that doesnt exist. Pull your head out of your ass. If he was competent then he wouldnt get criticism.

The president shot his load and overplayed the sequester. Planes arent falling from the sky. Im still able to fill my tank up. He overplayed his hand and as usual I expected the excuses and cover for the awful UE numbers.


I don't give a shit if you cry racism. Americans of all races are stupid. He got a lot of white blue collar votes from the rust belt and they are just as stupid.

Lets focus on an idiot coach in NJ who was a dickbag to his players meanwhile lets still keep faith on these hack politicians who continue to loot, lie, and plunder from the treasury. BOYCOTT RUTGERS!!!!!!!

[spoon]

THERE IS NO RECOVERY!!!!

How am I rooting against something that doesnt exist. Pull your head out of your ass. If he was competent then he wouldnt get criticism.

The president shot his load and overplayed the sequester. Planes arent falling from the sky. Im still able to fill my tank up. He overplayed his hand and as usual I expected the excuses and cover for the awful UE numbers.


I don't give a shit if you cry racism. Americans of all races are stupid. He got a lot of white blue collar votes from the rust belt and they are just as stupid.

Lets focus on an idiot coach in NJ who was a dickbag to his players meanwhile lets still keep faith on these hack politicians who continue to loot, lie, and plunder from the treasury. BOYCOTT RUTGERS!!!!!!!

focus lil resident idiot of rf.net

focus

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So does Plugs declare 2013 as recovery summer again?



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[hanso]

Break out the Champagne. This economy is back baby!!!! Barack is the savior. UE down to 7.6%


While Barack is slapping Biden on the ass, the reason it ticked down. More people dropped out of the labor force and more gave up looking

Barack needs more time right?


Obama voters and supporters you deserve all the bad news you get

You had it at 12 the other day, what's going on?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You had it at 12 the other day, what's going on?

12% UE ? Thats around the avg for Hispanics.

The actual U-6 when counting underemployed is higher for the entire nation.

Sure lets reward 20 million people and have Americans compete for jobs with them. The Combined IQ of the Gagglefuck of 8 is not even 8

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I was for gay marriage before it became the in thing to support

Amazing how one by one all of a sudden each Senator is falling in line now that Hillary is supporting it now. Another one a few years ago who believed she was against SSM

[spoon]

you think THAT is the reason?

and now you're against it bc of THAT?!


idiot doesn't even scratch the surface, it's called public opinion being for it over 50%...pretty sad to say the least, but it has its impact on some more than their own values and what is right. some dems clearly left the fence, but the GOP have just got on it...finally, unless it impacts their lives personally like having a gay son. then and only then is it ok in some minds.