2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread

[A.J.]

Sebelius doesn't know how many people paid citing that the info isn't collected by HHS?

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/obamacare-affordable-care-act-health-insurance-premiums-104602.html#ixzz2voRwk8HV


The feds collect everything, down to our emails and texts and Sebelius comes up with an answer like that?

Please stop waging a war on women.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Biden is the gaffe that keeps on giving



http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/201100-biden-misspeaks-about-chairmanship-and-nato

[A.J.]

Eh, he was Ranking Member. Not the worst thing he ever said.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nate Silver predicting a 60% chance the Democrats lose the senate.


That's until some idiot republican opens his yapper making some comment just as crazy as legitimate rape

[spoon]

thanks for the update farley

[Midkiff]

http://i.imgur.com/VKaWX.gif

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In other words, The administration will not reach it's threshold


Nothing like adding extra time on the clock when 4th and long and only seconds left



http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/obamacare-affordable-care-act-deadline-105033.html#ixzz2x1v7znpd

[Midkiff]

Yeah, cry about the fines, then cry about a time extension given for those who have trouble. You people really are obviously only out to criticize. Gay.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We were told the websites are up and running fine. We were told that there are thousands of navigators able to assist people. Sebelius was asked numerous times if there would be extensions granted for the 3/31 deadline and her answer was no


Why be surprised? The WH has moved the goalpost on this shit law more than 30 times

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Ukraine aid package is advancing in the Senate. We are much closer to providing welfare to Ukrainian billionaires over in Kiev

[Midkiff]

I guess fans of fake sports played by men in tights are dumb.

[spoon]

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[epo]

We were told the websites are up and running fine. We were told that there are thousands of navigators able to assist people. Sebelius was asked numerous times if there would be extensions granted for the 3/31 deadline and her answer was no


Why be surprised? The WH has moved the goalpost on this shit law more than 30 times

Oh my god, over 6 million sign ups. What a train wreck! Plus legal protections for consumers....how dare Obama & his health care idea!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/27/more-than-6-million-americans-enrolled-under-the-aca-wh-says/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Still didn't reach 7 million , the WH won't say how many paid. They are not getting their numbers of younger healthy people to sign up

And they issued another delay.

So what happens with all these subsidies people don't pay their premiums or deductibles ? Maybe bail out insurance co's ?
Great law we have here. Hooray for corporatism.


This is like a baseball team boasting about record applications for season tickets but not revealing who shelled out the cash
Only thing is that people won't be forced to pay a tax if they don't want to see an awful team

[A.J.]

Oh my god, over 6 million sign ups.

6 million: "Never forget".

[WRESTLINGFAN]

SCOTUS rules 5-4 that there could be unlimited funding to bankroll PAC's and Campaigns. The limit remains for donating to an individual candidate

Citizens United blew the doors off. Another bad ruling

[Jujubees2]

SCOTUS rules 5-4 that there could be unlimited funding to bankroll PAC's and Campaigns. The limit remains for donating to an individual candidate

Citizens United blew the doors off. Another bad ruling

Your government, brought (or bought) to you by the Koch brothers

[pennington]

Your government, brought (or bought) to you by the Koch brothers

And George Soros. Everybody is in on this.

[Dude!]

Amount spent on 2012 presidential
campaign (Romney PLUS obama): 1 billion dollars

amount spent on advertising in 2012 by
ATT: $1.6 billion
Verizon $1.43 billion
Chevy death cars: $1 billion
McDonald's health food: 1 billion


money in politics is
such a non-issue

[spoon]

Awful ruling. I can surely guess the vote rundown. Oof.

[A.J.]

Amount spent on 2012 presidential
campaign (Romney PLUS obama): 1 billion dollars

amount spent on advertising in 2012 by
ATT: $1.6 billion
Verizon $1.43 billion
Chevy death cars: $1 billion
McDonald's health food: 1 billion


money in politics is
such a non-issue

Indeed. And I love the ones complaining who are millionaire members of Congress.

[spoon]

That's a peculiar love.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can the smartest people in the world on TV stop using the word democracy? We aren't one.

[A.J.]

That's a peculiar love.

A love that dare not speak its name.

[spoon]

Can the smartest people in the world on TV stop using the word democracy? We aren't one.

a snorrrrrre

[WRESTLINGFAN]

WH Not happy about this selfie.


http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/04/news/obama-ortiz-samsung-selfie/index.html?iid=s_mpm

[epo]

Our nation has finally recovered all of the jobs lost from the Bush recession.

WF is blathering about selfies.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Part time jobs is a full recovery?


Guess you don't know that the labor participation rate is at 30 year lows.


There were predictions of 275K jobs added. 192K is way way off

[spoon]

go collect your participation rate ribbon

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Poor Jim Moran. He believes members of Congress are underpaid


“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,” Moran said. “I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[spoon]

so go do the math

[A.J.]

Poor Jim Moran. He believes members of Congress are underpaid

“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,” Moran said. “I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

He's my Congressman and I'm glad to see the bastard go, but he IS right TO A POINT. The DC metro area is a very expensive place to live and many members of Congress have to maintain two residences: one in DC and one in their home state/district. You can't jet back to American Samoa, Alaska, Hawaii or the West Coast every weekend.

But what Moran DOESN'T note is that a large number of the members of Congress are millionaires.

[spoon]

He's my Congressman and I'm glad to see the bastard go, but he IS right TO A POINT. The DC metro area is a very expensive place to live and many members of Congress have to maintain two residences: one in DC and one in their home state/district. You can't jet back to American Samoa, Alaska, Hawaii or the West Coast every weekend.

But what Moran DOESN'T note is that a large number of the members of Congress are millionaires.

yet as you say, there IS truth to the point no matter how much we don't like their results or work. as to the millionaire point, that in itself is an issue and not a true representation of this country. perhaps one issue (paid too little for a normal worker/citizen to even think it), tied to campaign finance, spending limits and free air/equal time, the whole landscape could start to change…even a little would be good.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Congress was never meant to be a full time gig with all the perks and lavish benefits.

That all changed especially with the direct election of US Senators, so now each member regardless of chamber has tons of staffers and others as part of their entourage

Look at Issa for example. He's worth over 300 million and I believe is the richest in Congress.

Plus there's a lot of cash these people get on the take. I have no sympathy for any one of those 535 members

[PapaBear]

Congress was never meant to be a full time gig with all the perks and lavish benefits.

That all changed especially with the direct election of US Senators, so now each member regardless of chamber has tons of staffers and others as part of their entourage

Look at Issa for example. He's worth over 300 million and I believe is the richest in Congress.

Plus there's a lot of cash these people get on the take. I have no sympathy for any one of those 535 members
If he's "the richest" how does that qualify as "for example"?

No worries for the less fortunate Congresspeople. The staffers in their entourages can help pay for their personal living expenses!

[pennington]

But what Moran DOESN'T note is that a large number of the members of Congress are millionaires.

Or somehow become millionaires after they're in Congress long enough.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I am glad my former Senator is ok however why have all these props etc?

Is Blumenthal trying to Outschumer Schumer?

I'm fine with train safety etc but these politicians need to cut back on the extras.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/conn-sen-blumenthal-hit-train-rail-safety-press-conference-article-1.1762281

[pennington]

I am glad my former Senator is ok however why have all these props etc?

Is Blumenthal trying to Outschumer Schumer?

I'm fine with train safety etc but these politicians need to cut back on the extras.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/conn-sen-blumenthal-hit-train-rail-safety-press-conference-article-1.1762281

He survived Vietnam, he'll survive a train. Oh, wait...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He didn't serve in Combat but he was a reservist and he mentioned more than once that he went to 'Nam

Gotta blame the voters too

[pennington]

He didn't serve in Combat but he was a reservist and he mentioned more than once that he went to 'Nam

Gotta blame the voters too

That's why I put the "Oh, wait..." in. Maybe too subtle.

[A.J.]

The greater danger is walking outside of Union Station in New Haven.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Anyone know the reasoning why voter turnout for off year and mid term isn't as high as a presidential year?

I would think that congressmen and senators regardless of their voting records would have some impact on voting

[A.J.]

Anyone know the reasoning why voter turnout for off year and mid term isn't as high as a presidential year?

I would think that congressmen and senators regardless of their voting records would have some impact on voting

Because people are lazy, fucking idiots. Apparently "Congress sucks" but the reelection rate is pretty safe for the most part. So it's "Congress sucks -- except for my guy".

[sailor]

Because people are lazy, fucking idiots. Apparently "Congress sucks" but the reelection rate is pretty safe for the most part. So it's "Congress sucks -- except for my guy".

They also have more influence in congress the longer they've been there, so it's kinda spiting yourself to throw out your incumbent. It's simple game theory, really.

[PapaBear]

Anyone know the reasoning why voter turnout for off year and mid term isn't as high as a presidential year?

I would think that congressmen and senators regardless of their voting records would have some impact on voting
Anyone know why people rush to buy lottery tickets, when the payout is hundreds of millions, but they won't bother when it's "only" ten million?

[A.J.]

Anyone know why people rush to buy lottery tickets, when the payout is hundreds of millions, but they won't bother when it's "only" ten million?

:laugh: I remember that ad campaign for Powerball or one of the state lotteries where this question was asked.

[spoon]

Because people are lazy, fucking idiots. Apparently "Congress sucks" but the reelection rate is pretty safe for the most part. So it's "Congress sucks -- except for my guy".

welllllll, gerrymandering/redistricting has done wonders for BOTH parties and it's a fucking joke

[A.J.]

welllllll, gerrymandering/redistricting has done wonders for BOTH parties and it's a fucking joke

Yep, that too.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

IRS handed out bonuses to people who are tax deadbeats and some who faced disciplinary measures.
Yet they still cry for a bigger budget

[sailor]

IRS handed out bonuses to people who are tax deadbeats and some who faced disciplinary measures.
Yet they still cry for a bigger budget

Their personal tax issues are irrelevant.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If they are being paid by us and working for a revenue collection agency the least they should do is have their taxes squared away

[A.J.]

Oh my dear, sweet Baby Jesus. :ohmy:

http://www.nhregister.com/storyimage/NH/20140423/NEWS/140429834/AR/0/AR-140429834.jpg&maxW=640&maxH=480

[PapaBear]

Indeed.

Actually PB you are losing your Congressman too, correct? Aren't you in Frank Wolf's district?
There are six Republicans vying for Wolf's seat. They must have been chomping at the bit, for Wolf to retire. And of course, my right leaning local paper has printed a front page article about each one for the last six issues.

[A.J.]

Barbara Comstock is portraying herself as the Heiress Presumptive.

[PapaBear]

Barbara Comstock is portraying herself as the Heiress Presumptive.
Yes, she is. And from what I've seen, her biggest rallying cry is, "I'm just like Frank Wolf".

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They are referring to the district in CA which will pick Waxmans replacement as the Botox belt

[Dude!]

They are referring to the district in CA which will pick Waxmans replacement as the Botox belt

it's ironic that those awful people
obsessed with good looks
continually voted for
the ugliest man in the country

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Michael Grimm who reps SI and parts of Bklyn expected to be indicted for campaign violations.
He was the one a few months back who threatened a local NY reporter

[spoon]

shocker