View Full Version : 2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 03:50 AM
As much as you blast QE3 I bet the right would not have had the aptitude to even set something like it up. They would have just let the market tank. Free market and all that BS
Manipulation of the currency and the market . That's how the Feds roll
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 03:53 AM
Another vacation coming up. Martha's Vineyard!!!!
We are tortured by repetitive speeches on inequality but he will be lavishing in a multi million dollar estate.
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spoon
08-03-2013, 09:13 AM
Manipulation of the currency and the market . That's how the Feds roll
and this is different how?
sorry, ok not sorry, but you're a pick and choose fool
spoon
08-03-2013, 09:14 AM
Another vacation coming up. Martha's Vineyard!!!!
We are tortured by repetitive speeches on inequality but he will be lavishing in a multi million dollar estate.
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WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 11:17 AM
and this is different how?
sorry, ok not sorry, but you're a pick and choose fool
Actually the Federal reserve, the government and their favorite corporate masters are all in at it
Instead of giving jets to Egypt the senate could have voted on the bill to audit the Fed which passed on a bi partisan level in the house
The dim bulb Reid tabled it
He was more concerned talking about Romney not paying taxes on the senate floor with his source as he heard it from somebody
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 11:20 AM
I
I indeed
Mr middle aged Trayvon should spend his vacation somewhere more diverse instead of a place whiter than the tile in my bathroom
hanso
08-03-2013, 01:02 PM
and this is different how?
sorry, ok not sorry, but you're a pick and choose fool
My point was the right most likely would not have implemented such a plan. Leaning on his keyword of 'lazy'.
Don't forget WF is libertarian and would stand shoulder to shoulder with gop/tparty while they watched Rome burn. waiting on some magical free market fix.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 01:22 PM
You're trying to associate anarchy with libertarianism
There could have been better solutions than to just throw money at everything
Now the tea party wasn't around in 2008 but many republicans voted for TARP and the auto bailouts
Once again the Feds chose favoritism . Certain companies in bed and with the most lobbyists with DC got preferential treatment. Lehman wasn't so lucky. While they did practice bad business So did Bear and they were rescued by JPM with a 30 billion backstop by the Fed Reserve.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 01:23 PM
The country is burning. However the shills on cnbc seem to think its the roarin 20's
spoon
08-03-2013, 02:59 PM
Lehman had a shit ton of lobbyist too. They were the odd man out on this one and still not one executive in cuffs tied to the whole mess...not even some real change. Bottom line is THIS is an area we need more change to but you would rather demonize anyone who tries like spitzer, warren and of course obama. Yet this is an area he has not gone as hard as he should, or even close.
spoon
08-03-2013, 03:00 PM
The country is burning. However the shills on cnbc seem to think its the roarin 20's
If by this u mean the fracking problem, then yes.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 03:25 PM
Lehman had a shit ton of lobbyist too. They were the odd man out on this one and still not one executive in cuffs tied to the whole mess...not even some real change. Bottom line is THIS is an area we need more change to but you would rather demonize anyone who tries like spitzer, warren and of course obama. Yet this is an area he has not gone as hard as he should, or even close.
Dodd Frank isn't going to reform anything.
The too big to fail concept is still in existence
The Banks that Barack, Liarwatha and Spitzer bitch about had lobbyists to make sure TBTF didn't die
WRESTLINGFAN
08-03-2013, 03:25 PM
If by this u mean the fracking problem, then yes.
Also Camden, Detroit et al
hanso
08-05-2013, 06:37 AM
You're trying to associate anarchy with libertarianism
There could have been better solutions than to just throw money at everything
Now the tea party wasn't around in 2008 but many republicans voted for TARP and the auto bailouts
Once again the Feds chose favoritism . Certain companies in bed and with the most lobbyists with DC got preferential treatment. Lehman wasn't so lucky. While they did practice bad business So did Bear and they were rescued by JPM with a 30 billion backstop by the Fed Reserve.
The only thing I brought up was qe3
spoon
08-05-2013, 06:58 AM
The only thing I brought up was qe3
ANARCHY
OBAMA
Favoritism
SQUAWK!!!!
hanso
08-05-2013, 10:46 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/34nqfd4.jpg
WRESTLINGFAN
08-05-2013, 10:59 AM
https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1000002_10151540131980773_1406165148_n.jpg
spoon
08-05-2013, 11:03 AM
So stupid. What wf, u want more drone attacks and military action to keep the world safe!? Thought u were against those no?! Playing all aides of this against your fav here aren't u? Basically there is zero way to completely secure us from attack and we've been there too long, built up too much and do not need to give up more rights.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-05-2013, 11:10 AM
No.
I want out of Afghanistan. I want us not to interlude in Syria. Enough of creating more Turrrrists.
As usual you don't look at the exact topic. Last year Barack kept saying how AQ was decimated. OBL is dead, and the rest of the lines.
spoon
08-05-2013, 11:18 AM
Exact topic, from u, in this thread, after that post...hilarious!
hanso
08-05-2013, 11:18 AM
House GOP weighs defunding ACORN for 13th time even though it hasn't existed since 2010
(HuffPo) When House GOP leaders abruptly shelved a bill to fund standard federal transportation and housing programs last Wednesday, one of the legislation's few uncontroversial provisions was a section banning funds for the anti-poverty group ACORN. Had Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) been able to pass the bill, it would have marked the 13th time that Republicans have voted to block federal funding for ACORN since the GOP took over the lower chamber in 2011. Oddly, however, ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, does not exist. And it did not exist at any time when the House GOP has held a vote on ACORN's access to government monies -- the group disbanded in the spring of 2010.
spoon
08-05-2013, 11:20 AM
Good work as always congress. Now get back to work and appeal the health care act, er obamacare.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-05-2013, 11:25 AM
That's right
Kill the bill. Single payer for all.
SonOfSmeagol
08-05-2013, 11:28 AM
House GOP weighs defunding ACORN for 13th time even though it hasn't existed since 2010
(HuffPo) When House GOP leaders abruptly shelved a bill to fund standard federal transportation and housing programs last Wednesday, one of the legislation's few uncontroversial provisions was a section banning funds for the anti-poverty group ACORN. Had Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) been able to pass the bill, it would have marked the 13th time that Republicans have voted to block federal funding for ACORN since the GOP took over the lower chamber in 2011. Oddly, however, ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, does not exist. And it did not exist at any time when the House GOP has held a vote on ACORN's access to government monies -- the group disbanded in the spring of 2010.
what happened to that vaunted organization, anyway? beaten down by the man?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-05-2013, 01:10 PM
Amazon CEO to buy WaPo
PapaBear
08-05-2013, 02:15 PM
I really hate abbreviations like that.
sailor
08-05-2013, 02:18 PM
I really hate abbreviations like that.
CEO?!
PapaBear
08-05-2013, 02:21 PM
CEO?!
I should have said acronyms, I guess.
PapaBear
08-05-2013, 02:22 PM
That is, unless you pronounce "CEO" as "see-oh". If you do that, then you're a douche.
spoon
08-05-2013, 02:48 PM
Sailor's a douche no matter how he sounds that out.
PapaBear
08-05-2013, 02:49 PM
Sailor's a douche no matter how he sounds that out.
Says the guy who uses the "word" "prolly".
spoon
08-05-2013, 03:15 PM
Never
sailor
08-05-2013, 03:57 PM
Never
Prolly not.
spoon
08-05-2013, 05:28 PM
where's jenny to slap a bitch (sailor) around when you need her!?
hanso
08-05-2013, 09:06 PM
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That is, unless you pronounce "CEO" as "see-oh". If you do that, then you're a douche.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-06-2013, 01:18 PM
Barack to appear on Leno tonight. Will he be driven by Jay in a golf cart roadster?
spoon
08-06-2013, 04:03 PM
oh my God, what about the children and the debt ceiling!!!
noooooooo
WRESTLINGFAN
08-06-2013, 06:16 PM
Wonder if Barack knows what the debt is.
Letterman asked the smartest president ever and he didn't know
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 06:05 AM
Poor baby.
Like a petulant little kid Barack cancels meeting with Putin
Nice move dickhead. When Putin supplies more weapons to Assad because you wanted to act like a little twat then what will the excuse be?
Barracks an amateur he thinks he's going to one up a former KGB agent
KGB during the Brezhnev era, you might as well claim kids on the playground are NFL athletes because they both run around on grass
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 06:39 AM
Did you expect him to be an agent in Khruschevs regime as a kid ?
What was Barack doing? Getting angry mobs on buses
He sure knows how to use a clipboard and bullhorn
spoon
08-07-2013, 06:51 AM
So we should only elect special ops, navy seals, CIA or green berets to the office of president?! This is working so well around the world already, including Russia.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 06:58 AM
Who said anything about that for this country. I see you're wandering again
We should elect competent people.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:01 AM
Barack thinks he's going to pull one over on Vlad.
This will be a modern day steamroll.
Did you expect him to be an agent in Khruschevs regime as a kid ?
What was Barack doing? Getting angry mobs on buses
He sure knows how to use a clipboard and bullhorn
no I'm just saying the way the Sino-Soviet split went down and the ongoing rift combined with American and Chinese relations normalizing completely unimpeded, barely a decade separated from a shooting war between the two countries, is probably the biggest diplomatic and intelligence fuck-up of the 20th century. It was the exact moment you can pinpoint the peak and subsequent fall of the Soviet Union.
They went from Kruschev posturing with the Cuban missiles and subsequently getting America to remove a massive number of nuclear weapons that were practically right on the Soviet border/threatening part of their bluewater navy to "HEY FUCK THE CHINESE!" "oh wait you mean they don't like us telling them to fuck off? oops my bad"
but yeah let's worship some guy because he was part of an incompetent crew in the '60s and '70s
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:07 AM
Who's worshiping anybody?
Are you going to match Baracks Credentials with Vlads?
Now Kreshnev wasn't as brutal as joe but the former Soviet Union wasn't led by doves.
Funny you mention the Chinese. They will continue to provide assistance to Damascus.
Who is giving Barack foreign policy advice?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:12 AM
Why did the USSR fall?
They didn't practice communism correctly ?
spoon
08-07-2013, 07:14 AM
You can't even comprehend the implications of what you fucking post, how can we expect you to understand our picking it apart. Good work WF...good work as always.
spoon
08-07-2013, 07:16 AM
Just say you SOMEHOW disagree with what Obama chose to do again. Shocker.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:18 AM
You can't comprehend that Barack made a bad move.
Good luck trying to negotiate with Tehran over their Nookyoolar program without Russia as a negotiator
Did your alter ego Fork vote for Barack? As usual defending him
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:20 AM
Correction
Russia as a mediator
hanso
08-07-2013, 07:23 AM
ANARCHY
OBAMA
Favoritism
SQUAWK!!!!
Barack- SQUAWK-Barack
spoon
08-07-2013, 07:23 AM
Haven't even chimed in on if i agree or not, yet i do see where's coming from. However, I am attacking your glorification of Putin's past and putting up on some platform and just putting down anything else. You couldn't be more idiotic in your approach or platform for politics, but this is nothing new.
I see some pros and some cons with this call, but sure DO see Putin as a complete asshole of late and it is better than pulling our Olympic team or something stupid like that. Let politics happen in the political arena.
spoon
08-07-2013, 07:28 AM
You can't comprehend that Barack made a bad move.
Good luck trying to negotiate with Tehran over their Nookyoolar program without Russia as a negotiator
Did your alter ego Fork vote for Barack? As usual defending him
You fail to comprehend I am not just in favor of this move completely and a lot of what Obama does. Your hate and irrational take makes even someone thinking something through and not just crucifying him on anything and everything as being a shill for the guy you clearly have a hard on for. I haven't once took his side here outside of generalizations against your stupid add on takes, but yah...go obama! is what u see.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:32 AM
Crucifying?
I guess he is the messiah.
Now back to being serious. A rank amateur from Chicago is not going to one up someone ruthless like Putin
This was a petulant childish move because Moscow gave Smowden asylum.
Do you really believe Vlad won't respond by giving more money and weapons to Assad?
The rebels are losing ground.
spoon
08-07-2013, 07:37 AM
I put that word in there JUST for you and of course u didn't let me down. Fucking idiot takes talking point bait, nothing new to see here, move along.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 07:41 AM
And your defending him again was expected
hanso
08-07-2013, 07:47 AM
Barack- SQUAWK-Barack
spoon
08-07-2013, 07:50 AM
Ooof
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 08:06 AM
Vlad and Barack should have a Stoli Summit
Dude!
08-07-2013, 08:16 AM
Vlad and Barack should have a Stoli Summit
yeah, and toast the gays
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 08:50 AM
That might be the next move. Boycott the Olympics next year because of the gay crackdown
spoon
08-07-2013, 08:52 AM
Not a chance.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 11:18 AM
What are those 2 idiots Graham and McCain doing in Cairo?
Can't they mind their fuckin business ? Their hard ons for Neoconservatism is a reason why that place is on the edge
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 12:23 PM
Anyone see the great speaker claim Jacksonville, Savannah and Charleston are on the gulf coast ?
Yes, mr Harvard grad said that on Leno's show last night.
Maybe he's talking about the country with 57 states
spoon
08-07-2013, 02:22 PM
yah maybe
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 02:41 PM
Mr Smartest president ever does not know basic geography.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
hanso
08-07-2013, 03:06 PM
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WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 03:15 PM
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spoon
08-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Mr Smartest president ever does not know basic geography.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
yep, he's a regular idiot compared to last guy...and man you never stop with your one man army of hate toward one guy
it's fucking comical how much you troll boards just to put up links and stories that NEVER take an objective look or different angle other than despising your buddy, "mr smartest president ever" oof, even your joke/rips are awful
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 03:38 PM
The last idiot is off the stage. I know he was prone to gaffes but this is the president who's supposed to be the smartest one ever and an expert on everything. Turns out he's a gaffe machine just like that idiot Biden.
Instead of acknowledging that he thought those 3 cities are not near the gulf, as usual it's defend him.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-07-2013, 03:40 PM
yep, he's a regular idiot compared to last guy...and man you never stop with your one man army of hate toward one guy
it's fucking comical how much you troll boards just to put up links and stories that NEVER take an objective look or different angle other than despising your buddy, "mr smartest president ever" oof, even your joke/rips are awful
You didn't see my post of criticizing those 2 jackasses McCain and Graham?
You're being selective again
spoon
08-07-2013, 06:30 PM
The last idiot is off the stage. I know he was prone to gaffes but this is the president who's supposed to be the smartest one ever and an expert on everything. Turns out he's a gaffe machine just like that idiot Biden.
Instead of acknowledging that he thought those 3 cities are not near the gulf, as usual it's defend him.
yep, that's what I did...defended him in this case versus just calling you out
got it
and he never claimed to be an "expert on everything" once, as he tries to appoint them to the important posts only to be denied almost every fucking time
spoon
08-07-2013, 06:32 PM
You didn't see my post of criticizing those 2 jackasses McCain and Graham?
You're being selective again
oh those are your two GOP whipping boys bc it's easy, but that hardly makes you objective in any sense of the words, or puts to bed your raging boner for Obama
that's just stupid and in your wheelhouse of idiocy
hanso
08-07-2013, 08:48 PM
What are those 2 idiots Graham and McCain doing in Cairo?
Can't they mind their fuckin business ? Their hard ons for Neoconservatism is a reason why that place is on the edge
They were to go to Syria but there was that security alert.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 03:22 AM
yep, that's what I did...defended him in this case versus just calling you out
got it
and he never claimed to be an "expert on everything" once, as he tries to appoint them to the important posts only to be denied almost every fucking time
But but you didn't vote for him....
You defend him all the time. And yes he goes around flying around the country lecturing everyone on the constitution, healthcare, the banking system, the automotive industry etc and all of these areas he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
But you didn't vote for him!!!!!!
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 03:24 AM
oh those are your two GOP whipping boys bc it's easy, but that hardly makes you objective in any sense of the words, or puts to bed your raging boner for Obama
that's just stupid and in your wheelhouse of idiocy
Guess you didn't see me criticize Romney when he was running last year either. Or Priebus who is the head of the party.
Youre the one who wants to sleep with Barack since youre constantly defending him. Ih wait. You didn't vote for him
:lol::lol::lol:
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 03:25 AM
They were to go to Syria but there was that security alert.
Wait. I thought those rebels were BFF with McCain and Graham.
spoon
08-08-2013, 06:52 AM
Guess you didn't see me criticize Romney when he was running last year either. Or Priebus who is the head of the party.
Youre the one who wants to sleep with Barack since youre constantly defending him. Ih wait. You didn't vote for him
:lol::lol::lol:
I did not vote for him, but i guess u didn't read the reasons why or how it came to be.
Also, defending him from your bullshit and backing his policies all day or his gaffes are not one in the same. Keep trying, bc a post out of 500 on Romney when even he Gop are on him for something is hardly breaking ranks. Same with fucking McCain and his date. For the millionth time, you are a fucking fool.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 07:17 AM
I'm trashing him mainly not because of his many gaffes , Im trashing him due to his awful record his mostly failed policies , his abuse of power and the upcoming Obamacare shit cancer that is losing popularity by the day and for its many consequences as we find out more of that thousand page nightmare
Romney sucked. However for 2 weeks it was binders full of women , clearly not articulate but there will be hardly a peep of Baracks lack of geography. Ironic is that he knows where the nearest fundraiser is
spoon
08-08-2013, 07:21 AM
Obama shit cancer...nice...the same plans already cutting costs in the states most willing to utilize the new ideaas/approaches. It won't/can't be perfect, but it is a start...and even if it was perfect, you would hate it.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 07:25 AM
And in other states they will rise.
Good luck when the subsidies run out as the years progress.
Yea a shit cancer where even some of the top unions are now skeptical
Shit cancer where the employee mandate is delayed but individual one isn't. Here's to big business !!! Yup that Barack is for the little guy
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 07:26 AM
Obama and perfection is like Cervelli and power hitting
WRESTLINGFAN
08-08-2013, 08:12 AM
Barack doesn't need a GPS or Map to go to one of his biggest fundraisers and bundlers he had a private meeting with one of his biggest pimps.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/obama-dines-jeffrey-katzenberg-los-601906
Lloyd Blankfein and Larry Summers are money grubbing whores, So is Barack.
spoon
08-09-2013, 01:30 AM
You're a fucking one trick pony of idiocy/stupidity. How many bad jokes/play on words and smug tie ins can one fool make about one man?
You can't even make it up. I have to think you have a mental disorder at this point...seriously.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-09-2013, 03:51 AM
Just pointing out how the man you didn't vote for isn't a man of the 99%
Look at him jet setting everywhere to be with the 1%
WRESTLINGFAN
08-09-2013, 06:59 AM
Another rehashed press conference today at 3.
Does this president have anything new?
It's more of the same shit before he jet sets to Marthas Vineyard
hanso
08-09-2013, 09:05 PM
BREAKING: Obama Does Something, Fox News/WF Opposes It
spoon
08-09-2013, 09:07 PM
Perfect!
WRESTLINGFAN
08-10-2013, 07:54 AM
That speech was another hour of blather and drivel. Who has faith that the spying program and patriot act will be overhauled?
He's trying to sell Obamacare and that's still an albatross for him.
He looked like he didn't want to be there, He was already on vacation mode.
spoon
08-10-2013, 08:23 AM
That speech was another hour of blather and drivel. Who has faith that the spying program and patriot act will be overhauled?
He's trying to sell Obamacare and that's still an albatross for him.
He looked like he didn't want to be there, He was already on vacation mode.
WOW!!
Hanso somehow guessed your take before it happened!
WRESTLINGFAN
08-10-2013, 08:35 AM
WOW!!
Hanso somehow guessed your take before it happened!
More shocking is that there was no Hanslation needed
spoon
08-10-2013, 08:37 AM
nah, seeing your idiocy is a universal language amongst posters...its our one universal language here.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-10-2013, 08:50 AM
nah, seeing your idiocy is a universal language amongst posters...its our one universal language here.
The only idiot was in the WH Press room vowing to reform the NSA.
Heres to Universal. Universal Health Care. Medicare for all.
spoon
08-10-2013, 09:16 AM
sounds good, where do I sign up!?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-10-2013, 09:32 AM
A number of countries in Western Europe.
Or if you like the warm climate. Havana
SonOfSmeagol
08-10-2013, 09:40 AM
sounds good, where do I sign up!?
you're covered, big fella
http://www.disfracesgilmar.com/2956-2977-large/disfraz-enfermera-hombre-talla-m.jpg
spoon
08-10-2013, 09:46 AM
Figures.
That speech was another hour of blather and drivel. Who has faith that the spying program and patriot act will be overhauled?
He's trying to sell Obamacare and that's still an albatross for him.
He looked like he didn't want to be there, He was already on vacation mode.
You know less about the Affordable Care Act than you do about immigration laws, which is an impressive level of ignorance.
Congrats.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 01:04 PM
You know less about the Affordable Care Act than you do about immigration laws, which is an impressive level of ignorance.
Congrats.
I know gullible people like you keep falling for the schemes of your political masters
Amnesty won't reform anything and Obamacare won't be affordable
Keep being baited by that carrot on a stick. You'll end up starving
spoon
08-11-2013, 03:13 PM
yes yes, the costs currently and in the past have been so on WF...so much so reform and change has been argued for decades, yet nothing done until now
also, it has been fine for those in power and with coverage, NOT the masses and too many are uncovered/under covered
but yah, the policies not enacted yet, tied to a glaring need for change, FAILURE bc you say so
this in the face of unprecedented lack of bipartisanism efforts to even allow this to be tried
if it will be such a failure, and I can only assume the other side's real desired outcome is for them to fail, why not just let it go through...it's not like they for once have the best interest of this country at heart. only an idiot would believe that at this point in almost any issue bt these two fucking idiotic parties...yet one is clearly in the wrong more here and a complete waste of time and effort
spoon
08-11-2013, 03:18 PM
that and almost every state adopting these policies, not refusing or anything, have seen costs drop already...significantly too. in an era where double digit percentage increases happen like clockwork. but hey, more bc I said so work from WF at its finest.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 04:13 PM
The intentional and unintentional consequences of Obamacare will be enormous
There is already talk of the exchanges not being up and running by 10/1, The employer mandate is delayed by a year , unions want out of it. Plus it's going to be over budgeted (shocker!!)
You of all people should want it to fail
Single Payer !!!!!
spoon
08-11-2013, 04:19 PM
I want it to be a first step of a major overhaul of a broken system, and it won't/can't be perfect. It's a fucking step and it was a compromise on many factors...one being the exclusion of single payer you never shut up about. Again, your claims are just that, and have no factual evidence at this point outside of hold ups bc i wonder why?!
spoon
08-11-2013, 04:23 PM
And guess what wf, i don't root for things to fail just bc one party or person is at the wheel. My loyalties and hope lies in what is best for this country and a MAJOR difference bt us no matter how much u distance yourself from a party in theory, much less your racial biases putting it nicely.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 04:25 PM
Instead of actually fixing the problem, the feds are going to make it worse. No proof? How about that it will cost at least twice as much and again. The people ie unions who wanted it passed now want no part of it. Congress and their precious staff not subject and anyone named Obama wont have to suffer thru it. Obamacare is no longer a pejorative, he sees ir\t as a badge of honor. Sebelius is trying to shake down companies, the NFL said they don't wanna push Obamacare.
Plus its another 1000 page bill that hardly anyone who voted for read but they had to get it passed just to say they got it passed.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 04:27 PM
And guess what wf, i don't root for things to fail just bc one party or person is at the wheel. My loyalties and hope lies in what is best for this country and a MAJOR difference bt us no matter how much u distance yourself from a party in theory, much less your racial biases putting it nicely.
Murrrrrrrrrrica!!!!!!!!
Its not rooting for things to fail, It's knowing another government program will be added to the tons of other failures.
spoon
08-11-2013, 04:36 PM
That's not proof at all, linking cost (of which almost anyone with brain knows people always intentionally underestimate to help sell/pass) and zero context at all on your sweeping union claims. Your congress claims and of course tying to obama, go figure we had to go there right, are dumb too. They have always had a different plan and it's such a small portion of it overall i don't care.
The nfl simply doesn't want to get involved with a hot political topic, and rightfully so. And even so, let's not act like the fucking NFL has some great track record of protecting its players and caring!
And finally, it may be unfortunate, but it isn't some different thing that politicians hardly read any bills or reports in full ever and rely on aids and staffers to review and sum them up for them. Sorry, just another ignorant statement at best, or purposely misleading by WF. Shocker.
spoon
08-11-2013, 04:40 PM
Murrrrrrrrrrica!!!!!!!!
Its not rooting for things to fail, It's knowing another government program will be added to the tons of other failures.
"Knowing" = complete bullshit
Also, you act as if the current set up is working...it is not. It is costing this country and its people too much in terms of finances and all for leaser coverage and shitty care.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 04:40 PM
The proof is that it's a bad bill. Again, the organizations pushing for it, do not want it now.
How desperate is the administration that they were even thinking of having the NFL advertise it or be associated with it.
Union bosses like Hoffa are wary of Obamacare. He doesn't have to worry, He wont be participating in it.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 04:44 PM
"Knowing" = complete bullshit
Also, you act as if the current set up is working...it is not. It is costing this country and its people too much in terms of finances and all for leaser coverage and shitty care.
And the plan to save it will not end up saving it. These idiot republicans have no plan, I'll give you that. Instead of offering free market principles they waste time and money trying to repeal it. I am not opposed to true reform. A 1000 page bill written with legalese, backroom deals and favoritism to corporations isn't reform. Its a gimme to big business.
Shhhhhhh Barack is a man of the 99% and the little guy.
They should wash their hands of it and observe the upcoming trainwreck. Im sure idiot Boehner will have vote 41 when they get back from recess.
spoon
08-11-2013, 05:14 PM
Once again, your "proof" is severely lacking and i now doubt you know what that word means as well. The only epidemic ongoing here is your fucking lack of any semblance of intelligence. You gave no "proof" at all. What next? You mom told u it sucks and the proof is bc she wrote the health care act was a bad bill on her blog and twitter. The burden of proof over biased anecdotal musings. Tough to dig out a that shit filled hole when you keep adding more shit from both ends WF. Keep on keeping on fuckwad.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-11-2013, 05:26 PM
Keep abreast of current events. The proof is being exposed every day.
SonOfSmeagol
08-11-2013, 06:03 PM
http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/sword-fight1-smiley.gif?1292867685
spoon
08-11-2013, 06:07 PM
So after all of this posturing and bullshit, your "proof" is "yah huh, watch the news i watch that is doing the same shit."
Good stuff idiot.
hanso
08-12-2013, 07:37 AM
So after all of this posturing and bullshit, your "proof" is "yah huh, watch the news i watch that is doing the same shit."
Good stuff idiot.
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'you got the news on'?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-12-2013, 07:27 PM
Obama approval hovering around 43%
Come on Barack, you can do it. There's plenty of time to tank into Bush numbers.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 06:20 AM
All hail the Messiah of Mom jeans, The lord of lame and the Christ of Corruption
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/57173
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 07:46 AM
The shit cancer of Obamacare continues down its path to being a train wreck as now another provision is being delayed.
Why is Barack picking and choosing what sections of his baby to enforce? Where's the congressional oversight?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57598288/key-consumer-protection-in-obamacare-delayed/
spoon
08-13-2013, 11:03 AM
Where is it!?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 11:32 AM
In Boehners tanning bed. The fucking dope has no spine and allows himself to be rolled by Barack
He has got to be one of the worst speakers ever.
Nothing will happen in the senate either, Reid would give up his sedatives or whatever he's taking before those useless clods get serious about oversight
spoon
08-13-2013, 12:56 PM
Taco
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 02:30 PM
Will not be surprised if there are more delays. This is what happens with a 1000 page disaster
spoon
08-13-2013, 02:37 PM
Eleven
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 05:50 PM
Must not insult the Messiah
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/politics/missouri-obama-rodeo
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 05:55 PM
Corey Booker wins primary, He will be your next senator from NJ
Jujubees2
08-13-2013, 06:44 PM
Must not insult the Messiah
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/politics/missouri-obama-rodeo
Sorry but that name is already taken
Judge Rules Tennessee Family Can’t Name Their Son ‘Messiah’ (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/judge-rules-tennessee-family-cant-name-their-son-messiah/)
Jujubees2
08-13-2013, 06:46 PM
Corey Booker wins primary, He will be your next senator from NJ
And then, on to the White House!
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 06:54 PM
And then, on to the White House!
He's gotta get past her 1st
http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/hil_salute.jpg
Dude!
08-13-2013, 06:55 PM
And then, on to the White House!
if we get a 2nd one of them in there
the name of the house
will have to change
spoon
08-13-2013, 06:57 PM
Hack
WRESTLINGFAN
08-13-2013, 07:02 PM
Booker is more than a man than Barack is. Barack would run away from a burning house
spoon
08-13-2013, 07:36 PM
More than a man than...got it!
The one good thing about Obama being elected is how much it pisses off white America. I can't even read a story about worms that eat bones on the seafloor without some yahoo commenting about Obama. The vitriol is absolutely amazing.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 04:37 AM
Ah great. He's presiding over a corrupt administration a flatlining economy, a failed occupation of Afghanistan and dismal foreign policy but it's not a big deal because people were dumb enough to vote the bi racial guy again
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 05:32 AM
The NAACP is turning into a fringe group. They want the SS to investigate some dope who wore an Obama mask.
The one good thing about Obama being elected is how much it pisses off white TRASH America. I can't even read a story about worms that eat bones on the seafloor without some yahoo commenting about Obama. The vitriol is absolutely amazing.
Fixed that for you.
The NAACP is turning into a fringe group. They want the SS to investigate some dope who wore an Obama mask.
You know, with all of the talk down here about changing the Redskins name, maybe it's time to change the name of the NAACP too. "Colored" isn't exactly an acceptable term anymore.
PapaBear
08-14-2013, 05:59 AM
You know, with all of the talk down here about changing the Redskins name, maybe it's time to change the name of the NAACP too. "Colored" isn't exactly an acceptable term anymore.
I wonder if they help fund the United Negro College Fund.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 07:59 AM
Baracks grand experiment in Egypt keeps unraveling.
Mr Smartest president ever and his stooges McCain and Graham really want to intervene in Syria
Democracy baby !!!! Let's keep trying to buy friends
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 08:31 AM
If Nadal Hassan wore an Obama mask he would have been convicted already
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 09:31 AM
A spokesman for the administration just weighed in on the national controversy of the Obama mask
What a thin skinned pussy administration. Tough guys with drones but they get upset about something that people have done since the Nixon era
I guess creepy hope posters and cult like songs, prayers and faux ROTC maneuvers is the only form of acceptable speech for St Baracketh of Chicago
Maybe Congress will pass a Lèse majesté law.
SonOfSmeagol
08-14-2013, 09:43 AM
Maybe Congress will pass a Lèse majesté law.
say what?
http://i55.tinypic.com/2hgdxt1.gif
spoon
08-14-2013, 09:45 AM
Baracks grand experiment in Egypt keeps unraveling.
Mr Smartest president ever and his stooges McCain and Graham really want to intervene in Syria
Democracy baby !!!! Let's keep trying to buy friends
yah, grand experiment!
spoon
08-14-2013, 09:45 AM
Ah great. He's presiding over a corrupt administration a flatlining economy, a failed occupation of Afghanistan and dismal foreign policy but it's not a big deal because people were dumb enough to vote the bi racial guy again
ha!!!
spoon
08-14-2013, 09:47 AM
The one good thing about Obama being elected is how much it pisses off white America. I can't even read a story about worms that eat bones on the seafloor without some yahoo commenting about Obama. The vitriol is absolutely amazing.
perfect
http://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 09:52 AM
perfect
http://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif
That's going to be Obamacare exploding ,
The more we know (about the bill )
spoon
08-14-2013, 09:53 AM
shining star...what?
beacon of light, huh?
good points WF
shining star...what?
beacon of light, huh?
good points WF
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WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 10:05 AM
And what happens to stars ?
We are already seeing what could be an early supernova
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 10:51 AM
Poor immigrant families are having their entitlements cut, kids are getting booted from head start
Sorry tykes, we need tax dollars for this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10236302/First-dog-Bo-is-airlifted-to-Obama-holiday-home.html
Poor immigrant families are having their entitlements cut, kids are getting booted from head start
Sorry tykes, we need tax dollars for this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10236302/First-dog-Bo-is-airlifted-to-Obama-holiday-home.html
I've repeatedly defended Presidents from both parties when it comes to taking vacations. But this pissed me off:
Bo, the president's Portuguese Water Dog, arrived separately on one of two MV-22 Ospreys, a hybrid aircraft which takes off like a helicopter but flies like a plane.
A separate Osprey FOR THE FUCKING DOG? Do you know how much it costs to operate one of those things?
spoon
08-14-2013, 11:31 AM
My guess is there was a reason it was already flyng in and hey just added the dog. I highly doubt this was a special flight for the dog and nothing else was behind it.
spoon
08-14-2013, 11:31 AM
Seven dollars? Is that close AJ?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 11:34 AM
He can't take the dog with him ?
I understand the President and VP should not be on a same flight but AF 1 is huge. It's not like Bo would have to stay in the luggage compartment
Seven dollars? Is that close AJ?
That's the Metro at rush hour.
My guess is there was a reason it was already flyng in and hey just added the dog. I highly doubt this was a special flight for the dog and nothing else was behind it.
I was just venting false outrage. Still, that's a shit-ton of aircraft to operate in a small space. Marine One could have done the job.
SonOfSmeagol
08-14-2013, 11:46 AM
white house says: the dog is highly trained and pays his way
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9jG_xNaPqyY/SkVyOKFy9fI/AAAAAAAAAHA/8r5dnXMWwn4/s200/flying+basset.jpg
spoon
08-14-2013, 12:03 PM
He can't take the dog with him ?
I understand the President and VP should not be on a same flight but AF 1 is huge. It's not like Bo would have to stay in the luggage compartment
who the fuck knows wf, but I can promise you it wasn't bc they couldn't fit the dog or didn't want him on the same plane. that's just fucking stupid and perfect coming from you. perhaps he was at the vet and they left knowing he'd be on the next plane going there anyway instead of holding it up. again, don't really care until they tell me they were so stupid to just send this plane just for the dog. for all we know, the plane was going there anyway to a nearby base? just don't care, but we MUST attack the president's vacation again in any way possible right fuckwad?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 12:29 PM
Don't really care because it's wasting tax dollars amirite?
Who goes on vacation while the dogs at the vet? What a stupid excuse by you to defend a fucking dog taking a separate flight. Yup that Marine pilot flew combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan most likely only to be reduced to flying a pet.
As long as we have a president lecturing everyone about sacrifice, I'm going to call him out
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 12:30 PM
Poor Barack can't be held up by an animal
spoon
08-14-2013, 12:30 PM
you keep on being an idiot WF
it surely suits you
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 12:32 PM
Idiots come up with excuses like Bo was getting a rabies shot
spoon
08-14-2013, 12:45 PM
sure thing WF, having a pet go to the vet bc of an issue not scheduled is so off
not to mention it was just one of a MILLION little scenarios out there for this, as I'm quite confident the plane wasn't just sent to ship their fucking dog
THAT is the idiot in this equation, but why let sensible thinking get in the way of your hard on/witch hunt? answer, it didn't
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 12:49 PM
Common sense is to have a vet visit before going on vacation
Hell, it's only tax dollars. Let's waste more investigating someone who wore an Obama mask.
I know!!! You didn't vote for him
SonOfSmeagol
08-14-2013, 12:56 PM
hard on
one could say the same about you, given that he gets a rise outta you nearly every fucking time
:laugh:
spoon
08-14-2013, 12:57 PM
you say that a whole lot more than i
not to mention I just gave you a scenario in which you have your dog at the vet at ill timed moments...but ignore it, bc your hunt must find witch
oh and it just happened to me on my last vacation. I had to stay home and take the dog to the vet and then to family after the procedure...missed a day, but not a big deal on my end.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 12:59 PM
You didn't blow thru tax dollars.
Barack could have waited a day if that happened
spoon
08-14-2013, 12:59 PM
one could say the same about you, given that he gets a rise outta you nearly every fucking time
:laugh:
you're kidding right!? I openly admit to LOVING calling out WF's idiocy and lunacy at every turn! it's hilarious and therapeutic for the soul after a long day of work and crazy hockey!
you can't possibly make the shit angles up they he does even on shrooms and coke...he's a fucking fool and EXACTLY the type Syd just spoke of.
spoon
08-14-2013, 01:00 PM
You didn't blow thru tax dollars.
Barack could have waited a day if that happened
THE POINT was there are many scenarios in which they just added the dog to an already planned flight you idiot. Talk about taking a hypothetical EXAMPLE too literally.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 01:07 PM
The point is that tax dollars could have been saved .
Barack is a diva, now his dog is too.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 01:09 PM
you're kidding right!? I openly admit to LOVING calling out WF's idiocy and lunacy at every turn! it's hilarious and therapeutic for the soul after a long day of work and crazy hockey!
you can't possibly make the shit angles up they he does even on shrooms and coke...he's a fucking fool and EXACTLY the type Syd just spoke of.
Doesn't take drugs to call out this presidents dismal record and being a fucking hypocrite
spoon
08-14-2013, 01:12 PM
The point is that tax dollars could have been saved .
Barack is a diva, now his dog is too.
Point still completely lost on you, but that would kill your bs angle.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 01:14 PM
You say I have a raging hard on for Barack?
Yours is bigger than Jay Z's
spoon
08-14-2013, 01:44 PM
Good one. Add that to your top posts of 2013!
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 03:57 PM
Im going to take the sides of the feds in their attempt to block the AA and USAir merger. This is going to limit competition and have the 4 biggest airlines control 80% of the market, plus this will damage the regional carriers especially in Texas (Where AA's HQ are)
I read where airlines like Southwest could be squeezed. Currently SW leases some takeoff/landing routes from AA especially at Dulles
spoon
08-14-2013, 04:46 PM
For once we agree. Enough of these conglomerates getting bigger, as the united/continental merge only drove UP prices.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-14-2013, 05:05 PM
AA is still in bankruptcy and under the proposed merger the new company would be under the AA platform. I'd assume they would take on US Airs debts and obligations, they would have to raise fares.
This isn't the 1st merger the Feds were on the correct side on in recent years, they also moved to block AT&T and T Mobile
Jujubees2
08-14-2013, 06:01 PM
Im going to take the sides of the feds in their attempt to block the AA and USAir merger. This is going to limit competition and have the 4 biggest airlines control 80% of the market, plus this will damage the regional carriers especially in Texas (Where AA's HQ are)
I read where airlines like Southwest could be squeezed. Currently SW leases some takeoff/landing routes from AA especially at Dulles
Plus a merged AA and USAir would have like 70% of the landing slots at Reagan in DC
Plus a merged AA and USAir would have like 70% of the landing slots at Reagan in DC
I wish it was United so I could bump up my miles.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-15-2013, 07:58 AM
So when do troops get deployed to Cairo
McCain, Graham, Kristol and the neocons wish they were there already
WRESTLINGFAN
08-18-2013, 03:27 PM
Rename the GOP to the Grand old Pussies
Priebus is too much of a coward that he doesn't want the candidates to participate in debates by CNN and NBC because there's talk of a Hillary miniseries/movie.
Big badass dick swinging republicans but they wanna chicken out.
spoon
08-18-2013, 04:16 PM
not sure what is worse, your first solid point on this board bc that really is pathetic, or the fact that there is already ANY talk of the next presidential debates
hanso
08-18-2013, 09:29 PM
So when do troops get deployed to Cairo
McCain, Graham, Kristol and the neocons wish they were there already
Didn't you already post that McCain and Graham went to Cairo?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-19-2013, 04:17 AM
Didn't you already post that McCain and Graham went to Cairo?
I did, however the neo cons see Cairo as another opportunity to have US Troops there
WRESTLINGFAN
08-19-2013, 04:26 AM
Too early to talk about 2016. Hell it's too early to be bringing up midterms.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-19-2013, 09:00 AM
More savagery in Cairo. Congrats Barack !!! Good job into being the latest sucker thinking democracy would bring peace to an Arab country
hanso
08-19-2013, 09:49 AM
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the iraq's and such
WRESTLINGFAN
08-19-2013, 11:02 AM
Do they speak Iraqi there?
WRESTLINGFAN
08-19-2013, 06:47 PM
I guess all that cash Obama had sent to Cairo has been spent on gasoline.
Barack, Graham and McCains pals are burning down churches and terrorizing Coptics
WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 07:57 AM
Barack is on a college speaking tour aka more campaigning. He wants to make college more affordable. Yea like federally backed loans among other factors which caused another gov't caused bubble was so successful
This president is pathetic And those students holding onto his every word are more pathetic
spoon
08-22-2013, 08:29 AM
So college shouldn't be affordable and loans aren't fucking free money. So ya, WFwad to the rescue. Obama could literally cure cancer and you would be pissed he killed the oncology market of health care.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 08:31 AM
Who said it shouldn't be affordable?
Government intervention along with subsidies has made it expensive.
Barack couldn't even cure a kielbasa
SonOfSmeagol
08-22-2013, 08:51 AM
Barack is on a college speaking tour aka more campaigning. He wants to make college more affordable. Yea like federally backed loans among other factors which caused another gov't caused bubble was so successful
This president is pathetic And those students holding onto his every word are more pathetic
saw some of the left leaning media gushing over his stupid bus tour. laughable
WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 09:05 AM
saw some of the left leaning media gushing over his stupid bus tour. laughable
His groupies keep falling for the scheme that he is going to take out his toolbox, and will reform/fix everything. Schneider from One day at a time was more competent.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 09:11 AM
When will Barack make a statement about Coptics being killed and their churches being burned? Egypt was his baby. Notice he takes no responsibility for his grand experiment turning to shit
WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 11:40 AM
I guess Manning will no longer wanna be a "Man"ning
He wants to be known as Chelsea and wants hormone pills to become a lady
I guess Manning will no longer wanna be a "Man"ning
He wants to be known as Chelsea and wants hormone pills to become a lady
I'm all for the government ripping his balls off with a rusty butter knife and no anesthesia.
Dude!
08-22-2013, 11:50 AM
I'm all for the government ripping his balls off with a rusty butter knife and no anesthesia.
that wasn't helpful
spoon
08-22-2013, 03:15 PM
Who said it shouldn't be affordable?
Government intervention along with subsidies has made it expensive.
Barack couldn't even cure a kielbasa
I do/u should, gov made college expensive...oldie but goodie thanks for the laugh and finally awful joke once more.
spoon
08-22-2013, 03:21 PM
Egypt was his baby he says. For fuck's sake u are hilarious.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 03:38 PM
Yup. Sure was.
spoon
08-22-2013, 07:25 PM
When will Barack make a statement about Coptics being killed and their churches being burned? Egypt was his baby. Notice he takes no responsibility for his grand experiment turning to shit
Egypt was his baby he says. For fuck's sake u are hilarious.
Yup. Sure was.
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WRESTLINGFAN
08-22-2013, 08:05 PM
Barack did build that
WRESTLINGFAN
08-23-2013, 03:10 AM
More evidence of NSA abuses
Have faith Barack is going to fix it.
spoon
08-23-2013, 03:51 AM
Ah, NSA spring...his baby.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-23-2013, 03:53 AM
Not his baby but he's the babysitter
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 06:25 AM
The neo cons are like kids on Christmas eve
Fuel up those bombers boys onwards to Syria
Nothing will happen. THIS President is a Nobel Peace Prize winner and only Bush starts wars in the Middle East against countries that never attacked us. :dry:
spoon
08-27-2013, 09:22 AM
All true.
spoon
08-27-2013, 09:22 AM
Not starting wars is Obama's baby.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 09:42 AM
Intervening and getting involved in other countries civil wars is his baby.
Lets see if he violates the war powers act again.
spoon
08-27-2013, 09:57 AM
That's his baby...war powers act.
I'd like to know if we attack Syria, who are we supporting exactly? What is the end game for the possible overthrow of the Assad regime?
I fear that, once again, we are only going to end up making Iran's reach and influence in the region stronger.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 10:10 AM
I'd like to know if we attack Syria, who are we supporting exactly? What is the end game for the possible overthrow of the Assad regime?
I fear that, once again, we are only going to end up making Iran's reach and influence in the region stronger.
Many rebels are linked to AQ. Also theres the consequences of pissing off the Russians even more. Oil prices are rising on news of possible attack.
Hezbollah could carry out terrorist attacks. Iran has heavy influence over them.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 10:11 AM
Anti war movement since 1/20/09
http://www.accessniagara.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/20070623_empty_lot_parking_lot.jpg
spoon
08-27-2013, 10:19 AM
No difference af all wf...none.
Dude!
08-27-2013, 10:58 AM
I'd like to know if we attack Syria, who are we supporting exactly? What is the end game for the possible overthrow of the Assad regime?
I fear that, once again, we are only going to end up making Iran's reach and influence in the region stronger.
well, the idiot-in-chief
painted his badself into a corner
with his "crossing the red line" comment
now, if he doesn't act
he is pussy-in-chief whose threats
can't be taken seriously by anyone
if he does act, we open a can of worms
to rival Iraq
this is the one time
i actually hope he was lying
with his red-line comment, and that
he does nothing
if the French and English are so agitated,
let them do something
spoon
08-27-2013, 11:03 AM
frank, civil and mature phrases like "pussy-in-chief" simply take this post to pulitzer prize levels on top of its already fantastic dude formatting style of prose
:wallbash:
can't be taken seriously by anyone he says...
outstanding!
:lol:
if the French and English are so agitated,
let them do something
Better still, let the Saudis take the lead.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 11:32 AM
The Saudi's can't lead a camel to water. Without the west they would still be tribal nomads
The Saudis are the biggest power in the region (save for Egypt). They have a formidable arsenal thanks to our support over the past 30 years. They want to be the big boys on the block, here's the chance to step up.
Besides, it was Saudi Arabia who sent troops to Bahrain to stop the uprisings there back in 2011. They can organize support among the Gulf countries to help intercede in an Arab uprising in Syria.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 11:47 AM
Iran is vying for power in that region. Theres no love lost btwn them and Riyadh
Precisely my point. The small Gulfies are scared shitless of Iran and the Saudis despise Shia Iran. The last thing they want is them doing to Syria what they did to Iraq.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 12:00 PM
Iran has Russia and China on their side and are very formidable. Don't wanna sound biblical but WW3 could emerge from the Near and Mid east
SonOfSmeagol
08-27-2013, 12:25 PM
The Saudis are the biggest power in the region (save for Egypt). They have a formidable arsenal thanks to our support over the past 30 years. They want to be the big boys on the block, here's the chance to step up.
Besides, it was Saudi Arabia who sent troops to Bahrain to stop the uprisings there back in 2011. They can organize support among the Gulf countries to help intercede in an Arab uprising in Syria.
it definitely seems as tho the Saudis have the most at risk, vast capabilites (relatively) and should take the lead. but they too are faced with what you said - the desired outcome and the ability to control it. they could topple assad but how to control the afterparty short of occupation? and before you know it the mess is in Jordan and on the Saudi doorstep along with an increasingly unstable Iraq, and Eqypt and Iran just across the water. yep - definitely have the most at stake
and the saudis probably need to make a strategic deal with the russians to make it work
yay!
SonOfSmeagol
08-27-2013, 12:35 PM
Iran has Russia and China on their side and are very formidable. Don't wanna sound biblical but WW3 could emerge from the Near and Mid east
one of the only things holding that back is that in that geopolitical space, both China and Russia want customers, not corpses. but you never know - human nature and all, spur of the moment, we could be fucked
In other spaces that they control, corpses are no problem :blink:
WRESTLINGFAN
08-27-2013, 03:53 PM
Who said that Congress would talk impeachment if Dubya attacked Iran without consent from Congress?
However 6 years later his boss might attack Syria unilaterally
spoon
08-27-2013, 05:50 PM
Again, not different at all
Dude!
08-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Again, Seymour Scalp
adds nothing
spoon
08-27-2013, 09:47 PM
So blind, and here we go again. Me thinks someone has actual hairline issues himself.
You really run your bullshit into the ground. First your posting "style", then salary and now hair. Quite comical in a sad 5th grade kind of way. Keep on going with your bad self!
hanso
08-27-2013, 10:04 PM
Again, not different at all
They got the chemical weapons from the administration in question. Ronnie Raygun never dealt with tear-ist though did he?
spoon
08-27-2013, 10:09 PM
Imagine all the hair thinning! Ahhhh
hanso
08-27-2013, 10:24 PM
Imagine all the hair thinning! Ahhhh
Like this?
http://oi41.tinypic.com/28w0xfo.jpg
Ronnie Raygun never dealt with tear-ist though did he?
He didn't have to.
http://www.nlpwessex.org/images/reaganjan20-1981.jpg
spoon
08-28-2013, 06:36 AM
interesting how Nancy is front and center in that pic, not Ronnie
First ladies always stand in that spot.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTf5LDyz3fEXz6X4phYlrn8ZYW2uuBWF j0XvHfD3iRP_sbu4RjmPg
http://images.c-spanvideo.org/Files/46f/20090118034300001.jpg/Thumbs/height.288.width.448.jpg
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/391/146/391146490_640.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/06/article-2258011-16C7CB6E000005DC-737_634x392.jpg
spoon
08-28-2013, 06:48 AM
not when Hilary wins!
not when Hilary wins!
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/287/a/8/chris_vomiting_colour_by_dman25666-d30q7d0.jpg
spoon
08-28-2013, 07:27 AM
ha!
not sure I'm on board either...yet part of me would LOVE to see how Bill acts as first man!!
SonOfSmeagol
08-28-2013, 03:05 PM
not sure I'm on board either...yet part of me would LOVE to see how Bill acts as first man!!
the analysis is not that difficult. she's a great example of being a political party "darling" with no clothes (eeek). you'd think that if she goes for Chief Federal Executive she would be able to cite one meaningful accomplishment during her tenure as the SecState Federal Executive for 4+ years. but she can't. not one. in fact, it seems quite the opposite
as for Bill: he's soiled the Oval Office, literally, enough, and shouldn't be allowed in without close spousal supervision
spoon
08-28-2013, 08:07 PM
well that's just plain silly
drama queen
WRESTLINGFAN
08-29-2013, 05:28 AM
No uncle Toms invited. The article did mention that 41 was invited but couldn't attend due to health issues.
However, there blacks like Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder were not there either cause you know they are sellouts too
http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-tim-scott-wasnt-invited-to-event-commemorating-mlk-march-on-washington/article/2534830
WRESTLINGFAN
08-29-2013, 01:58 PM
UK gets it right votes not to attack Syria
SonOfSmeagol
08-29-2013, 06:49 PM
it looks like O has got himself backed up and no way out other than strike! wth!
it's gonna look really bad for us if we end up hitting a baby milk factory, or some such
:annoyed:
WRESTLINGFAN
08-30-2013, 04:00 AM
Over 100 members of Congress signed onto a letter warning Barack not to attack without consent from congress
Jujubees2
08-30-2013, 05:40 AM
Over 100 members of Congress signed onto a letter warning Barack not to attack without consent from congress
You mean they took time away from another vote to overturn Obamacare? How dare they!
Even Dubya managed to get an international coalition with sketchy evidence.
WRESTLINGFAN
08-30-2013, 06:43 AM
Speaking of Obamacare, some of the unions are now criticizing it
This won't affect Dick Trumka he still lives like a king and has open access to the WH
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