2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread

[epo]

A reporter from Politico is claimed on twitter that she can smell booze from GOP House members breath.

Ladies and gentlemen, the GOP is now trying to "drunk govern" on a Saturday night.

My 401K is fucked.

[PapaBear]

I'm shocked ANY worthwhile politician can function in Congress without booze.

[Dude!]

senator ted kennedy
was drunk
when he killed that woman

[spoon]

senator ted kennedy
was drunk
when he killed that woman

was he?

bc that seems like a timely addition here

[Kevin]

The Republican stated in the first month of his presidency that their job is to make sure he is a failed President...

If this was so bad, they would be falling all over themselves to make sure this passes.

The fact that they are so against it mean they know it will succeed and they are scared to death of it.

If you think that they are doing it for the "Good of the Country" then I have a Ryan Braun story that you can believe also..

[spoon]

come on, NOBODY really believed Braun

[Kevin]

come on, NOBODY really believed Braun

There was a East Political Observer that did..

[spoon]

well he ate too much fucking processed cheeses himself and was too busy combing his hair

[Kevin]

well he ate too much fucking processed cheeses himself and was too busy combing his hair

Hair?

What hair?

[A.J.]

senator ted kennedy
was drunk
when he killed that woman
And when he and Chris Dodd double teamed that waitress in a DC restaurant.

[Syd]

Hey Syd, I had to look that guy Durruti up to find out who the hell he is... One account of his death has Durruti killed when a companion's machine pistol went off by mistake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenaventura_Durruti).

dam, what a fuckin bummer, huh man? :innocent:

"by mistake" or "on purpose" by the Communists. CNT/FAI began to play nice with Stalin to get more support for the Republicans and Durruti off fucking about in the countryside trying to get people to avoid entangling themselves with imperialist countries put him and his militia on the wrong side of the fight.

Also, Beevor is a fascist and he can go fuck himself directly up his precious Thatcher's stupid ass.

[SonOfSmeagol]

"by mistake" or "on purpose" by the Communists. CNT/FAI began to play nice with Stalin to get more support for the Republicans and Durruti off fucking about in the countryside trying to get people to avoid entangling themselves with imperialist countries put him and his militia on the wrong side of the fight.

Also, Beevor is a fascist and he can go fuck himself directly up his precious Thatcher's stupid ass.

or up her ashe! Margaret Thatcher's ashes buried in London just yesterday (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/28/margaret-thatcher-ashes-buried-in-london/2887915/)

[Dude!]

And when he and Chris Dodd double teamed that waitress in a DC restaurant.

and when he took
his nephew out in Florida
to rape that woman

[spoon]

Hair?

What hair?

I get jokes!

[A.J.]

I'd like to thank POTUS and Congress for giving me the day off tomorrow!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Does that mean we don't have to worry about being spied on by the NSA with this shutdown?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

As of 9am , Access health CT the Exchange here isn't up and running.

What a shock

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[furie]

the worst part of this is that i still have to report to work and not get paid.

i blame, in total, the tea party. their goal has always been to disrupt the government, it has been their mantra. obamacare is not the reason, it merely became a rallying point. but if obamacare had been defeated years ago, we'd stil be shutdown. they just would have used another reason.
they are anti-government by nature and do not believe in actual governing.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Some states are still having issues with their exchanges.

These fucking government hacks had 3.5 years to test and run QA they can't even get a website up to speed.

[spoon]

of course

[Kevin]

I find it funny that the party screaming about people not paying for stuff keeps trying to not pay for their health care... which would be a couple hundred a month of their 15+k a month salary.

[Kevin]

Some states are still having issues with their exchanges.

These fucking government hacks had 3.5 years to test and run QA they can't even get a website up to speed.

I thought nobody wanted this...

Who keeps clogging up the network to the point of not working?

There must be alot of people not wanting it getting it.

[Syd]

I thought nobody wanted this...

Who keeps clogging up the network to the point of not working?

There must be alot of people not wanting it getting it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/02/wonkbook-this-is-what-the-republicans-were-afraid-of/?tid=rssfeed

Just like the "skewed polls" nonsense of the '12 election cycle, we're now seeing that people from the Republican base can be easily riled up into believing something completely divorced from reality. The angry white conservative male is becoming far less relevant now.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There's demand in the states that want Obamacare for the most part.

It still doesn't hide the fact that this giant clusterfuck was not ready to be implemented

PS Syd. What's your obsession with white men?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Actually in some of the bluest states, these enrollment rates are deplorable. Barack said that these glitches could last for weeks or months.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442115/EXCLUSIVE-Less-1-cent-Web-visitors-signing-Obamacare-state-health-exchange-websites.html

Other websites have much more webtraffic on their sites and they are fine. This President and his admin three and a half years to prep and they fuck up the launch even by some parts being delayed which is unconstitutional and violates article II of the constitution


Here's to another Obama failure

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Millions of Californians ? Not so fast

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-california-health-exchange-glitches-20131001,0,7108713.story

[foodcourtdruide]

Hey WF,

Here's a link to the stamford ymca. This is a great chance for you to go outside and do something other than obsess over meaningless news articles. You can go work out and make some friends, maybe join a pick-up basketball league.

http://www.stamfordymca.org/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hey Foodie, speaking of signing up, Did you visit the NY exchange yet and sign up?

[foodcourtdruide]

Hey Foodie, speaking of signing up, Did you visit the NY exchange yet and sign up?

Nope, I get health insurance through my job.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I hope you can keep it and not get dumped on the NY exchange

But why won't you sign up anyway ? I'm sure you wish ACA was single payer but isn't thus a better option in your view?

[foodcourtdruide]

I hope you can keep it and not get dumped on the NY exchange

But why won't you sign up anyway ? I'm sure you wish ACA was single payer but isn't thus a better option in your view?

What benefit would I get from signing up?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

According to the Feds high quality healthcare

My home state is up to almost 400

Great Job Barack

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Shots fired near Capitol. Lets see if an AR-15 is blamed like how the media got it wrong for the Navy Yard shooting

[Syd]

obamacare

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sorry to inform you Syd but the shooter isn't a white male

[Syd]

obamacare

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ban all black sports coupes they might be assault vehicles

How about background checks?

[Syd]

Ban all black sports coupes they might be assault vehicles

How about background checks?

pretty sure they already heavily regulate cars

and also have a form of background checks on them

either way look at this video

http://gawker.com/insane-video-of-the-car-chase-and-shoot-out-at-the-u-s-1440838515

seems like homeslicette hit a parked cop car and decided to roll out when guns got drawn

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Waiting for Andrew Cuomo to shout like a maniac

" No one needs more than 200 HP to drive a car"

[Kevin]

Waiting for Andrew Cuomo to shout like a maniac

" No one needs more than 200 HP to drive a car"

No one really does need it...

When are you going to get a chance to use it?

[Kevin]

Ban all black sports coupes they might be assault vehicles

How about background checks?

Why they gotta be black?

What about White ones and red ones and blue ones?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No one really does need it...

When are you going to get a chance to use it?



So the government should ban Ferraris, Corvettes , hell Infiniti G35's ?

Lets all drive Chevy volts

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why they gotta be black?

What about White ones and red ones and blue ones?



The so called assault weapons are black. According to the Feds, if a weapon doesn't have a wooden stock and has a scary looking grip they want it banned

[Kevin]

So the government should ban Ferraris, Corvettes , hell Infiniti G35's ?

Lets all drive Chevy volts

No, I'm just saying that they don't

And those don't kill thousands of people every year.

[Dude!]

Ban all black sports coupes they might be assault vehicles

or ban all crazy black women
from driving any color sports coupe

[spoon]

Waiting for Andrew Cuomo to shout like a maniac

" No one needs more than 200 HP to drive a car"



You really are one stupid fuck huh!? Don't answer, bc it is so fucking clear.

[foodcourtdruide]

Please explain to us how the government shutdown is not completely Boehner's fault and is somehow Obama's fault.

Explain:
1. How is not even allowing a vote on a bill that most people agree will pass if voted on not circumventing the legislative process, setting a dangerous precedence and giving a "fuck you" to the constitution the tea party claims to love so much?

2. How is Boehner NOT holding his position as House Speaker in higher regard than the 700k people currently out of work?

3. How does the GOPs willingness to shut down the government not signal that they care more about passing their agenda and pleasing a vocal minority of the constituents then actually governing this country?

[Syd]

Please explain to us how the government shutdown is not completely Boehner's fault and is somehow Obama's fault.

Explain:
1. How is not even allowing a vote on a bill that most people agree will pass if voted on not circumventing the legislative process, setting a dangerous precedence and giving a "fuck you" to the constitution the tea party claims to love so much?

2. How is Boehner NOT holding his position as House Speaker in higher regard than the 700k people currently out of work?

3. How does the GOPs willingness to shut down the government not signal that they care more about passing their agenda and pleasing a vocal minority of the constituents then actually governing this country?

1. Party policy is to follow the Hastert rule, the "majority of the majority" which is fine. House of Reps sets its own rules of order more or less which does allow for almost less than 50 people to dictate what the 380 some odd other representatives will be allowed to vote on.

2. It's common knowledge that they'll backpay the workers. This is just desperation negotiations with the Senate and Obama. Of course, they're not going to repay the rest of America for the massive economic damage a shutdown brings about.

3. http://i.imgur.com/LDTtWnb.png

This is the last way the white, angry conservative can stay relevant on the national stage. Voter suppression laws and negotiations by taking hostages are the only tools left.

[foodcourtdruide]

1. Party policy is to follow the Hastert rule, the "majority of the majority" which is fine. House of Reps sets its own rules of order more or less which does allow for almost less than 50 people to dictate what the 380 some odd other representatives will be allowed to vote on.

2. It's common knowledge that they'll backpay the workers. This is just desperation negotiations with the Senate and Obama. Of course, they're not going to repay the rest of America for the massive economic damage a shutdown brings about.

3. http://i.imgur.com/LDTtWnb.png

This is the last way the white, angry conservative can stay relevant on the national stage. Voter suppression laws and negotiations by taking hostages are the only tools left.

Thanks for the response syd.

1. It still seems like a "fuck you" to the constitution. The "Hastert rule" is no where near an official rule.

2. I've heard conflicting reports on back-paying workers. I've actually heard more people say they likely will not pay the workers. Granted, all my info on this is from here-say.

3. Why do I feel like the only white person that doesn't care if white people are the majority?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thanks for the response syd.

1. It still seems like a "fuck you" to the constitution. The "Hastert rule" is no where near an official rule.

2. I've heard conflicting reports on back-paying workers. I've actually heard more people say they likely will not pay the workers. Granted, all my info on this is from here-say.

3. Why do I feel like the only white person that doesn't care if white people are the majority?

A big fuck you to the Constitution was Barack carving out, making exemptions and issuing delays unilaterally. Violating article II. Barry is supposed to be a constitutional scholar. Guess he didn't teach that part of the constitution when he was a part time lecturer

Some workers are on furlough for example the DoD but the Drone president still has his favorite aircraft flying. This leads to another thing. Why have so many federal workers in the 1st place? Unfortunately over the decades our government has gorwn exponentially under both democratic and GOP administrations. The Dept of Energy, Education and Homeland security for example which meads to more bureaucrats, pensions, benefits, redundancy etc

Boehner is a horrible speaker, Probably will go down as the worst or one of the worst but lets not allow Barack to Slither away and let him off the hook. He is an inept executive incapable of deal making and as usual goes on TV and complains like a petulant child. I don't recall Clinton doing that in 95.

As far as whitey, When we are all dead, good luck finding people to pay for the federal leviathan, the welfare, and warfare state and feeding the monster. Or we can finally cash in our white privilege cards and claim affirmative action when we are the minority.

[Syd]

A big fuck you to the Constitution was Barack carving out, making exemptions and issuing delays unilaterally. Violating article II. Barry is supposed to be a constitutional scholar. Guess he didn't teach that part of the constitution when he was a part time lecturer

If it was truly unconstitutional, it would have been brought to the Supreme Court. People tried to buy into the narrative that Obama wasn't born in America to prevent him from being president. Do you honestly believe that anyone would pass up the chance like that?

Some workers are on furlough for example the DoD but the Drone president still has his favorite aircraft flying. This leads to another thing. Why have so many federal workers in the 1st place? Unfortunately over the decades our government has gorwn exponentially under both democratic and GOP administrations. The Dept of Energy, Education and Homeland security for example which meads to more bureaucrats, pensions, benefits, redundancy etc

Our economy, population and borders have grown as well. For an expanding society to function, government has to expand accordingly. Also, not for nothing, but Obama's presidency has seen the federal government shrink by nearly 100,000 workers. Not that it fits into your narrative of course but let us just throw that factoid out there.

As far as whitey, When we are all dead, good luck finding people to pay for the federal leviathan, the welfare, and warfare state and feeding the monster. Or we can finally cash in our white privilege cards and claim affirmative action when we are the minority.

Whites draw the majority of welfare and are the biggest proponents of military intervention. Don't you remember the 80s and 90s when we would go bomb the fuck out of some country because the President needed some white cheerleaders?

[Syd]

Thanks for the response syd.

1. It still seems like a "fuck you" to the constitution. The "Hastert rule" is no where near an official rule.

2. I've heard conflicting reports on back-paying workers. I've actually heard more people say they likely will not pay the workers. Granted, all my info on this is from here-say.

3. Why do I feel like the only white person that doesn't care if white people are the majority?

Hastert Rule is funky but it is what it is. We've been dealing with it any time there's a GOP held house and people know the game. It's usually fine when there isn't a faction of radical anarchists in the Republican party that have to become increasingly apoplectic about any government action that doesn't direct revenue to their districts.

[foodcourtdruide]

If it was truly unconstitutional, it would have been brought to the Supreme Court. People tried to buy into the narrative that Obama wasn't born in America to prevent him from being president. Do you honestly believe that anyone would pass up the chance like that?



Our economy, population and borders have grown as well. For an expanding society to function, government has to expand accordingly. Also, not for nothing, but Obama's presidency has seen the federal government shrink by nearly 100,000 workers. Not that it fits into your narrative of course but let us just throw that factoid out there.



Whites draw the majority of welfare and are the biggest proponents of military intervention. Don't you remember the 80s and 90s when we would go bomb the fuck out of some country because the President needed some white cheerleaders?

Wow syd, congrats for responding to that psycho babble.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If it was truly unconstitutional, it would have been brought to the Supreme Court. People tried to buy into the narrative that Obama wasn't born in America to prevent him from being president. Do you honestly believe that anyone would pass up the chance like that?



Our economy, population and borders have grown as well. For an expanding society to function, government has to expand accordingly. Also, not for nothing, but Obama's presidency has seen the federal government shrink by nearly 100,000 workers. Not that it fits into your narrative of course but let us just throw that factoid out there.



Whites draw the majority of welfare and are the biggest proponents of military intervention. Don't you remember the 80s and 90s when we would go bomb the fuck out of some country because the President needed some white cheerleaders?


No president can unilaterally pick and choose what parts of a law to carry out. Article II backs that up. Furthermore the SCOTUS many times fails to interpret the words of the constitution.


If you really want government to expand, then either follow the processes of the constitution or call for an article V convention and change our country into a democracy instead of a representative republic.

As far as welfare and other entitlements, I agree most people on those programs are white, however whites are still about 75% of the population. Do you recall now that we are still bombing the hell out of countries, but this time its much more covert in the drone age.

As usual the GOP fucked up in their communication and overall handling of this. Obama was looking like he was about to teeter over the lack of support for Syria and looked very weak, as usual the leadership never ceases to blow another opportunity to further weaken Obama. Boehner is pathetic

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow syd, congrats for responding to that psycho babble.

Say's you who is doing the psycho babbling.

[foodcourtdruide]

Say's you who is doing the psycho babbling.

Good comeback.

This shirt says "dry clean only", which means it's dirty.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Good comeback.

This shirt says "dry clean only", which means it's dirty.

What is psychobabble about blaming both parties ? Boehner is horrible, so is McConnell even though he is minority leader. However there is the executive branch and they are asleep as usual. Barack sent Biden to the hill in December to negotiate on the fiscal cliff. Now he did that because Joe was there for 35 years and Barack was there for about 10 minutes. Couldn't he do that again? Biden knows the process. He's been thru this.


Boehner is a bad speaker, Barack is a bad executive. Clinton had to deal with the opposite party and he was able to hammer out deals. He had a superior support/cabinet/chief of staff in his administration.

[foodcourtdruide]

What is psychobabble about blaming both parties ? Boehner is horrible, so is McConnell even though he is minority leader. However there is the executive branch and they are asleep as usual. Barack sent Biden to the hill in December to negotiate on the fiscal cliff. Now he did that because Joe was there for 35 years and Barack was there for about 10 minutes. Couldn't he do that again? Biden knows the process. He's been thru this.


Boehner is a bad speaker, Barack is a bad executive. Clinton had to deal with the opposite party and he was able to hammer out deals. He had a superior support/cabinet/chief of staff in his administration.

Why do you HAVE to blame both parties? Why can't you just look at this specific incident and come to a conclusion about who is at fault? Why do you feel compelled to place some blame on Obama for everything bad that happens? Sorry, but you come off as obsessed.

Boehner and the tea party are causing the government shut down, PERIOD. Nothing you said in your previous post even remotely refutes that.

Why does there always have to be shared blame in politics? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why do you HAVE to blame both parties? Why can't you just look at this specific incident and come to a conclusion about who is at fault? Why do you feel compelled to place some blame on Obama for everything bad that happens? Sorry, but you come off as obsessed.

Boehner and the tea party are causing the government shut down, PERIOD. Nothing you said in your previous post even remotely refutes that.

Why does there always have to be shared blame in politics? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

Because Barack is the chief executive. I didn't just blame him. Did you not read that the GOP and especially the speaker is at fault?

Barack is not a king , he has to realize that there is divided government. That is why there is shared blame. This is not a monarchy.

Please tell me why the president can carry out only some parts of the law but not others and do it unilaterally? What if your PD said they would put a severe crackdown on jaywalking but not enforce laws on violent crime?

[foodcourtdruide]

Because Barack is the chief executive. I didn't just blame him. Did you not read that the GOP and especially the speaker is at fault?

Dude, do you read other peoples posts? Seriously, what about it said that I claimed you just blamed Obama?


Barack is not a king , he has to realize that there is divided government. That is why there is shared blame. This is not a monarchy.


And...? That doesn't mean Boehner and the team party aren't responsible for this specific event.


Please tell me why the president can carry out only some parts of the law but not others and do it unilaterally? What if your PD said they would put a severe crackdown on jaywalking but not enforce laws on violent crime?

So if the democrats shut down the government as a response to legislation the *entire government* passed 2 years prior, you'd be ok with it? Come on.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dude, do you read other peoples posts? Seriously, what about it said that I claimed you just blamed Obama?



And...? That doesn't mean Boehner and the team party aren't responsible for this specific event.



So if the democrats shut down the government as a response to legislation the *entire government* passed 2 years prior, you'd be ok with it? Come on.

I already said that Boehner is at fault too. However why wasn't the Senate in Session Sunday. Maybe a last minute deal could have been made. Where was Barack ?

We are talking about an entirely complex law. Why not at least delay the individual mandate and work out any target areas of concern?

Speaking of Obamacare, I saw that the administration state that it could be at least 2 months before all the glitches for the websites are fixed. Barack mentions Apple however if Apple had a continuing problem with IOS for 2 months you would see people buying Samsung phones en masse.

[Syd]

I already said that Boehner is at fault too. However why wasn't the Senate in Session Sunday.

House originates bills, per the Constitution, and the House hadn't sent over anything (yet)

Maybe a last minute deal could have been made. Where was Barack ?

House originates bills, per the Constitution, a deal would involve sending a bill to the Senate that the Senate would then pass and send to the President

We are talking about an entirely complex law. Why not at least delay the individual mandate and work out any target areas of concern?

Because we can't keep kicking the can down the road to allow politicians to spout populist lies about death panels and government run healthcare so they can get elected. PPACA works just fine.

Speaking of Obamacare, I saw that the administration state that it could be at least 2 months before all the glitches for the websites are fixed. Barack mentions Apple however if Apple had a continuing problem with IOS for 2 months you would see people buying Samsung phones en masse.

http://i.imgur.com/ubngcvR.png

kind of like what is happening now with Apple's continuing problem? Either way, PPACA is pretty popular and the sites getting hammered from use isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's evidence of how scared the GOP should be that the Democrats managed to pass the law instead of them and now they'll get the accolades from it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

House originates bills, per the Constitution, and the House hadn't sent over anything (yet)



House originates bills, per the Constitution, a deal would involve sending a bill to the Senate that the Senate would then pass and send to the President



Because we can't keep kicking the can down the road to allow politicians to spout populist lies about death panels and government run healthcare so they can get elected. PPACA works just fine.



http://i.imgur.com/ubngcvR.png

kind of like what is happening now with Apple's continuing problem? Either way, PPACA is pretty popular and the sites getting hammered from use isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's evidence of how scared the GOP should be that the Democrats managed to pass the law instead of them and now they'll get the accolades from it.

House had bills, Senate refused to take any bill. Reid could have called back the senate. Sunday

While there are no death panels, per se, theres something called the IPAB. While this isn't socialized healthcare, its government colluding with private industry which is not beneficial. Price controls, favoritism and cronyism




Accolades? Where are all these people signing up for it? Plus Apple has something people want and they are accountable to investors, shareholders and the consumer

Who would be so gullible to have another agency get access to their personal info? It's just another arm of data mining.

[foodcourtdruide]

While there are no death panels, per se


Then later he says...



Who would be so gullible


hahahahahaha

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Then later he says...



hahahahahaha

IPAB

Tu Comprende Ingles senor?


Here's what everyones favorite Keynesian has to say about death panels


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[Syd]

House had bills, Senate refused to take any bill. Reid could have called back the senate. Sunday

House didn't send over a new bill. They kept sending bills that were mirrors of Romney's presidential platform.

While there are no death panels, per se, theres something called the IPAB.

There were already death panels in the health insurance industry. Grisham made a fortune off of pointing out a situation in one of his novels.

While this isn't socialized healthcare, its government colluding with private industry which is not beneficial. Price controls, favoritism and cronyism

So...mixed market? America has always colluded between industry and government. Whenever it hasn't, there were revolts against the government.




Accolades? Where are all these people signing up for it? Plus Apple has something people want and they are accountable to investors, shareholders and the consumer

Healthcare is something people want. Plus, as far as I can tell since people can vote the government is accountable to the population. Just because you're against it doesn't mean a majority of the country is against it.

Who would be so gullible to have another agency get access to their personal info? It's just another arm of data mining.

We're really going to go there? Look at the wild west bullshit that was going on before HIPAA. If that wasn't around, we'd have people directly marketing to consumers based off of their medical files.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They were bills. If the employer mandate was good enough for a delay and there were extra carve outs, why screw over the citizens



So why monopolize it and have it sanctioned by government.



Price controls, cronyism, and even more collusion? Plus having the federal government bastardizing the commerce clause is the solution?




No ones saying they don't want it but why does it have to be another multi trillion dollar entitlement which the government understated the cost and is what can be called a stepping stone. The goal is single payer.



Yes we are because your willingness to allow the gov't to grow even more while collecting data feeds the leviathan.

[spoon]

wf, soooo biased and afraid of any gov program it's fucking comical

but yes, we all LOVE big gov and like no competition!

silly wf, conversations are for the lucid and unbiased

http://art.ngfiles.com/images/10/zeppelyn_silly-rabbit.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not to worry, when this is another Barack failure you'll cling onto Liz Warren or President Hillary squawking for single payer. Just hold out for a couple of years

[spoon]

warren is the bestestest

you love her

[Midkiff]

It's time to start with a clean slate. Wipe the entire stupid-ass two party system, fueled by newsertainment, and start from square one.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

warren is the bestestest

you love her



Is she groovier than Hillary? That's everyone's gal for 2016

[spoon]

yah, definitely the groovy factor

idiot

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If she does decide to run maybe she can ride that 1/32 Cherokee claim all the way to the WH

[spoon]

Yah, maybe bc that is clearly why she succeeded in anything prior. It is a huge voting block too, so i can see it being a huge plus!

Idiot part II

[WRESTLINGFAN]

She used that to advance her career at Harvard

Sure the GOP will be mostly white but if Hillary Warren and Biden run that's showing some white relics as well

[Midkiff]

Actually, the Affordable Care Act did go to the Supreme Court, and it was upheld as constitutional. It's the law, like it or not. Holding the government hostage over law is retarded.

May as well shutdown the government until women's suffrage is repealed. This is just as dumb.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow, you can't make this shit up. The new poster boy for Obamacare is a fraud

Liar president liar poster boy. Maybe he will get an invite to the WH

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/04/is-obamacares-celebrity-enrollee-actually-signed-up/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So when does the administration start signing up dead people to inflate the roles?

[Midkiff]

Wow, you can't make this shit up. The new poster boy for Obamacare is a fraud

Liar president liar poster boy. Maybe he will get an invite to the WH

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/04/is-obamacares-celebrity-enrollee-actually-signed-up/

Yeah, not really, if you read the whole thing. Dubious at best...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It still raises doubts and red flags. Can't anyone be honest?

My opinion is that he's lying and trying to dig out of a situation he caused

Does everything associated with this administration be cloaked in dubious and questionable motives ?

[spoon]

So when does the administration start signing up dead people to inflate the roles?

Yep, clearly right around the corner. Fucking idiot III

[spoon]

It still raises doubts and red flags. Can't anyone be honest?

My opinion is that he's lying and trying to dig out of a situation he caused

Does everything associated with this administration be cloaked in dubious and questionable motives ?

For you, of course!

[epo]

Yep, clearly right around the corner. Fucking idiot III

But people might like it and the black dude might be popular for it!

That could hurt the GOP (which WF isn't a republican but only votes for all their shitty candidates).

The horror!!!!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's off to a horrible start and the half black dude doesn't have stellar approval numbers

As far as voting for shitty candidates I didn't vote for Mitt, so your reply holds no importance

You said it the horror. The shit storm of Obamacare.

[Midkiff]

Maybe this whole thing is just a big insider trading scam so everybody on Capitol Hill can make some money. They unload stocks just before the shutdown, then shut down, and when the inevitable stock decline happens, they buy it all up again. Then they come to an agreement, stocks come back, and bada-bing, all of DC just earned a few more million.

[SonOfSmeagol]

This is the last way the white, angry conservative can stay relevant on the national stage. Voter suppression laws and negotiations by taking hostages are the only tools left.
just the angry ones?

[Syd]

the non-angry ones don't vote

[Syd]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/obama-imagine-if-worker-could-shut-down-plant-because-they-didn-t-get-what-they-want#

commuislamofascisocialist Obama against strikes??? Obamacare.

[Pitdoc]

Actually, the Affordable Care Act did go to the Supreme Court, and it was upheld as constitutional. It's the law, like it or not. Holding the government hostage over law is retarded.

May as well shutdown the government until women's suffrage is repealed. This is just as dumb.

I think the Tea Party is shooting for the 13th Amendment

[Syd]

With the threat of communism/libertarianism/socialism gone, why bother? They can just roll back worker rights to that of the 19th century. Effectively slavery at that point.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So Barack took some time away from playing golf to weigh in about the Redskins. Of course the busybody thinks they should change their name.

[Dude!]

Wisconsin and Massachusetts
and all the other state names
stolen from injun words
are highly offensive

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wisconsin and Massachusetts
and all the other state names
stolen from injun words
are highly offensive

I wonder what Suckajawea aka Liz Warren thinks about the Redskins. Im sure 1/32 of her is offended

[SonOfSmeagol]

So Barack took some time away from playing golf to weigh in about the Redskins. Of course the busybody thinks they should change their name.

you'd think he'd have more to be worried about instead of peanuts and small potatoes
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[Syd]

So Barack took some time away from playing golf to weigh in about the Redskins. Of course the busybody thinks they should change their name.

well yeah it's pretty damn racist, the only people against them changing their name are people from southern maryland and their opinions are bad

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Do the majority of tribes want the name changed or is it a push by white busybodies ?


Since Barack is incapable of tackling bigger problems, he might as well look at issues like a sports teams name.

[epo]

Boehner is claiming that he doesn't have the votes for a clean CR, except he does.

Now break the stupid "Hastert" rule and take a vote.

[Kevin]

Do the majority of tribes want the name changed or is it a push by white busybodies ?


Since Barack is incapable of tackling bigger problems, he might as well look at issues like a sports teams name.

Right.. because getting another top AlQueda guy while dealing with a crooked congress is clearly not enough..

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Al Qaeda version of careerbuilder already filled that spot.

[Syd]

Do the majority of tribes want the name changed or is it a push by white busybodies ?


Since Barack is incapable of tackling bigger problems, he might as well look at issues like a sports teams name.

So do we have to have a national referendum from "the jews" if someone wants to make a team called the New York Shylocks?

No, it's goddamn racist and you don't need to go ask people at a fucking synagogue about it the same way you don't need to ask aboriginals whether or not a team named the Redskins is racist

also having a team named the Redskins in the national capital (well, middle of nowhere MD) is pretty embarrassing

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So do we have to have a national referendum from "the jews" if someone wants to make a team called the New York Shylocks?

No, it's goddamn racist and you don't need to go ask people at a fucking synagogue about it the same way you don't need to ask aboriginals whether or not a team named the Redskins is racist

also having a team named the Redskins in the national capital (well, middle of nowhere MD) is pretty embarrassing

Ever see the Celtics logo? It doesn't look too appealing if you're an Irishman but they still pack the TD garden in Boston

[Dude!]

would "Brownshirts" as a team name
be in any way offensive?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If the Redskins change their name, I guess Oklahoma is next. It's Choctaw for land of the red people

[spoon]

you'd think he'd have more to be worried about instead of peanuts and small potatoes
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yeah, you all fail miserably in your, what most can only imagine are attempts at humor and wit

fucking putrid and pathetic...WF, SOS, and Haikude!

[spoon]

Do the majority of tribes want the name changed or is it a push by white busybodies ?


Since Barack is incapable of tackling bigger problems, he might as well look at issues like a sports teams name.

when the GOP and Tea Party seem pretty pissed, I'd say that's sign he's doing plenty

wish he could get more done, but with this congress fucking anything is tough

[Kevin]

when the GOP and Tea Party seem pretty pissed, I'd say that's sign he's doing plenty

wish he could get more done, but with this congress fucking anything is tough

The GOP is now the Tea Party.

The GOP is dead.

And the Tea Party is the killer.

[epo]

The GOP is now the Tea Party.

The GOP is dead.

And the Tea Party is the killer.

Those who aren't "tea party" face the label "tea party favorite" at this point.

That's how toxic the tea party has become.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

when the GOP and Tea Party seem pretty pissed, I'd say that's sign he's doing plenty

wish he could get more done, but with this congress fucking anything is tough



How about Barack sign an executive order making himself King. Then he can have unlimited power. Maybe he can dissolve congress

[spoon]

Those who aren't "tea party" face the label "tea party favorite" at this point.

That's how toxic the tea party has become.

that's what happens when the primaries are becoming bigger than the actual elections on the smaller votes due to some just pathetic redistricting and gerrymandering...and I say this for both sides even though the GOP/tea party case is MUCH MORE visible and over the top

[spoon]

How about Barack sign an executive order making himself King. Then he can have unlimited power. Maybe he can dissolve congress


yah, this

that's what the Kenyan commies really want

[Kevin]

How about Barack sign an executive order making himself King. Then he can have unlimited power. Maybe he can dissolve congress

You mean like shutting down a gov to prevent a law that was vetted by everyone including the supreme court from happening?

I think thats what a king would do.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yeah, you all fail miserably in your, what most can only imagine are attempts at humor and wit

fucking putrid and pathetic...WF, SOS, and Haikude!



Don't get mad because he sucks as an executive. He should be reaching out to his stepfather Bill for guidance

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You mean like shutting down a gov to prevent a law that was vetted by everyone including the supreme court from happening?

I think thats what a king would do.



He did delay parts of the bill unilaterally.

How about he gets fitted for a faux military outfit . Would that suffice ?

[SonOfSmeagol]

yeah, you all fail miserably in your, what most can only imagine are attempts at humor and wit

fucking putrid and pathetic...WF, SOS, and Haikude!

eat me

[spoon]

eat me

no no, it was almost funny and clever for a 5 year old

keep at it and you forgot the cheesy outsourced smilie you normally stamp your shit with

come on man, go get one

[Kevin]

There was a brief power outage in Buffalo cutting the WWE PPV Feed


THANKS OBAMA!

[spoon]

seriously, is that who I thank? bc that is a good thing!

for SOS :wink:

[SonOfSmeagol]

fuck off

[Kevin]

seriously, is that who I thank? bc that is a good thing!

for SOS :wink:

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[Kevin]

http://i.imgur.com/3Dhp5HQ.gif

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://i.imgur.com/3Dhp5HQ.gif

FLOTUS did encourage the Lets Move campaign

[spoon]

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[spoon]

This one is the best!!

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[spoon]

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[spoon]

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[Kevin]

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[spoon]

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[spoon]

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:lol:

[Kevin]

http://i.imgur.com/qpJa6.gif

[Syd]

Ever see the Celtics logo? It doesn't look too appealing if you're an Irishman but they still pack the TD garden in Boston

Now imagine if the Celtics name was the Boston Protestantbombers or the Boston Pastyskins

[Syd]

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http://i.imgur.com/T44O8wF.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now imagine if the Celtics name was the Boston Protestantbombers or the Boston Pastyskins



I think we should petition the Steinbrenners. Yankees could be considered derogatory

Lets go back to calling them the Highlanders

[Jujubees2]

How about Barack sign an executive order making himself King. Then he can have unlimited power. Maybe he can dissolve congress

I'd vote for that. Oh wait, I wouldn't get to vote for that. Never mind.

[Syd]

I think we should petition the Steinbrenners. Yankees could be considered derogatory

Lets go back to calling them the Highlanders

not really, Yankee has become forcefully derogatory

a more closer equivalent would be a southern team being named the Carpetbaggers

[sailor]

So do we have to have a national referendum from "the jews" if someone wants to make a team called the New York Shylocks?

No, it's goddamn racist and you don't need to go ask people at a fucking synagogue about it the same way you don't need to ask aboriginals whether or not a team named the Redskins is racist

also having a team named the Redskins in the national capital (well, middle of nowhere MD) is pretty embarrassing

Who declares what is racist? You? The group affected? Various national referenda?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This is almost as ridiculous as the Reds having to change their name in the 50's to the Red Legs due to McCarthyism

[spoon]

Yah, fucking Obama hated the reds am i right!? Damn communist bastard!

[foodcourtdruide]

This is almost as ridiculous as the Reds having to change their name in the 50's to the Red Legs due to McCarthyism

I think that's a stretch. It's more like St. Johns Redmen changing their names to St. Johns Red Storm... which happened and no one cared.

As much as I believe their is faux outrage over offense to the name, I believe there is faux outrage over offense to changing the name.

[sailor]

I think that's a stretch. It's more like St. Johns Redmen changing their names to St. Johns Red Storm... which happened and no one cared.

As much as I believe their is faux outrage over offense to the name, I believe there is faux outrage over offense to changing the name.

I cared. They should have dropped the Indian mascot, but not changed the name as it originally had nothing to do with Indians.

[Dude!]

I cared. They should have dropped the Indian mascot, but not changed the name as it originally had nothing to do with Indians.

If Washington, DC wants
to name a team that truly
reflects the city, they should
make it the Washington Coons

(because of all those little critters
that knock over the garbage cans
at night)

[sailor]

If Washington, DC wants
to name a team that truly
reflects the city, they should
make it the Washington Coons

(because of all those little critters
that knock over the garbage cans
at night)

Ok, maybe I was mistaken on the St. John's thing.

[foodcourtdruide]

I cared. They should have dropped the Indian mascot, but not changed the name as it originally had nothing to do with Indians.

Barely remember anything about the issue, which again.. leads to my point that this really doesn't matter.

[foodcourtdruide]

Ok, maybe I was mistaken on the St. John's thing.

Look at whose side you're on!

[sailor]

Look at whose side you're on!

Too late! Took it back!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Almost a week into Obamacare and the WH can't say how many people signed up

There are still issues with the websites.

Great customer service so far

Oh wait. Where are the goofy Apple comparisons?

[Dude!]

Almost a week into Obamacare and the WH can't say how many people signed up

i think i heard Epo saying
that everyone in Wisconsin
has already signed up
without a hitch

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So far the rollout is a BFD

Big Fuckin Disaster

[Snoogans]

Almost a week into Obamacare and the WH can't say how many people signed up

There are still issues with the websites.

Great customer service so far

Oh wait. Where are the goofy Apple comparisons?

oh wait, maybe cause the GOP keeps hacking the systems to make it look shitty

[Kevin]

Boy, for a party that does not like to pass their bucks, they sure love to pass the buck.

This is the latest of their amazing hypocrisy

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1377166_10151949520696489_1071590013_n.jpg

Yea no... He did not close it down, YOU shut down the Government that closed it down.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In 1995 A lot of memorials were open. Barack is acting like a petulant child. The feds tried closing off areas which aren't even owned by the fed govt. Hell they tried to block off state roads.


Kind of expected from him. He should own a team called the Washington ThinnedSkins


It costs more to put all those guards and Barricades in front of those monuments than to operate them normally. Then again Barack isn't capable of knowing that.

[SonOfSmeagol]

In 1995 A lot of memorials were open. Barack is acting like a petulant child. The feds tried closing off areas which aren't even owned by the fed govt. Hell they tried to block off state roads.


Kind of expected from him. He should own a team called the Washington ThinnedSkins


It costs more to put all those guards and Barricades in front of those monuments than to operate them normally. Then again Barack isn't capable of knowing that.
Said a senior administration official: "We are winning...It doesn't really matter to us" how long the shutdown lasts "because what matters is the end result." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/white-house-government-shutdown_n_4043961.html)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The asshat is picking and choosing who to punish. He's going to allow illegals to march on the mall and demand amnesty but somehow he thinks a 90 year old in a wheelchair should be locked out of a memorial he earned.

Too bad the border isn't secure as those memorials

[Syd]

The asshat is picking and choosing who to punish. He's going to allow illegals to march on the mall and demand amnesty but somehow he thinks a 90 year old in a wheelchair should be locked out of a memorial he earned.

Too bad the border isn't secure as those memorials

the mall doesn't require park rangers, the only time they're there is if they're going to the monument

the memorial requires park rangers because people litter constantly and they don't want people fucking with the monuments

face it just like kevin said the party of personal responsibility doesn't want to be responsible for what they did

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the mall doesn't require park rangers, the only time they're there is if they're going to the monument

the memorial requires park rangers because people litter constantly and they don't want people fucking with the monuments

face it just like kevin said the party of personal responsibility doesn't want to be responsible for what they did

The illegals are promising civil disobedience , furthermore I already said it costs more to have those park rangers barricading the monuments than to keep them open

Is the WH federal property? How about the Obamas vacate the premises. The WH dog walkers and Chefs are non essential , Michelle should start cooking dinner

[WRESTLINGFAN]

US Park Police are responsible for patrolling national mall

[Dude!]

Michelle should start cooking dinner


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[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[Snoogans]

yea, obama was the one who shut down government. Man you fox news trolls are fantastic

[foodcourtdruide]

The illegals are promising civil disobedience , furthermore I already said it costs more to have those park rangers barricading the monuments than to keep them open

Oh the irony. What would cost more, draconian enforcement of illegal immigration or allowing granting illegal immigrants amnesty?

Did you end up joining the Stamford YMCA like I recommended?

If not here are some meetups you can join:
http://www.meetup.com/cities/us/ct/stamford/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who's for draconian over the top security? Enforce current laws, gut the handouts and deny them opportunities . They'll leave.

Your solution is a real winner. Expand the welfare state even more and rack up more debt and fleece taxpayers

2 sets of rules. Reward them for breaking the law but the rest of us have to follow the law or else get harassed with the might of every level of government

[Syd]

so the Romney plan, self deportation, which won't work because standards of living are too low in most of the Antebellum South

also "illegals" would need a socsec# along with other documentation to receive benefits, which means they'd be paying into the system

TANF (welfare as you know it) is limited to 60mos max lifetime

SNAP (food stamps as you know it) is most of the poverty belt and not just illegals but a broad spectrum of skin colors

[Syd]

The illegals are promising civil disobedience , furthermore I already said it costs more to have those park rangers barricading the monuments than to keep them open

better ring up the white house then and let them know it is costing them money

(it is cheaper to keep them closed and minimum staffing levels)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so the Romney plan, self deportation, which won't work because standards of living are too low in most of the Antebellum South

also "illegals" would need a socsec# along with other documentation to receive benefits, which means they'd be paying into the system

TANF (welfare as you know it) is limited to 60mos max lifetime

SNAP (food stamps as you know it) is most of the poverty belt and not just illegals but a broad spectrum of skin colors



Do you realize that there are also state welfare programs?

You also proved my point. We already have our own impoverished , why must we allow to import people to add to the roles

[WRESTLINGFAN]

better ring up the white house then and let them know it is costing them money

(it is cheaper to keep them closed and minimum staffing levels)



What will the WH do? It's not like they will send out their jackboots to arrest anyone if they cause unrest. Better to harass 90 year olds

[Syd]

Do you realize that there are also state welfare programs?

You also proved my point. We already have our own impoverished , why must we allow to import people to add to the roles

but but state rights to have welfare

[WRESTLINGFAN]

but but state rights to have welfare



Means our responsibility to finance them (especially red ones who on average get more largesse than paying into)

[foodcourtdruide]

Who's for draconian over the top security? Enforce current laws, gut the handouts and deny them opportunities . They'll leave.

Your solution is a real winner. Expand the welfare state even more and rack up more debt and fleece taxpayers

2 sets of rules. Reward them for breaking the law but the rest of us have to follow the law or else get harassed with the might of every level of government

Which "handout" do you want gutted that would save us so much money, and how would gutting that handout not lead to a draconian policy? Strictly enforcing the current law is amazingly more expensive than amnesty, which would lead to more legal tax payers. Face it WF, you are willing to bite off your nose to spite your face in order to achieve.... What? What magically happens when we spend more money than we'd receive by enforcing these laws?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Which "handout" do you want gutted that would save us so much money, and how would gutting that handout not lead to a draconian policy? Strictly enforcing the current law is amazingly more expensive than amnesty, which would lead to more legal tax payers. Face it WF, you are willing to bite off your nose to spite your face in order to achieve.... What? What magically happens when we spend more money than we'd receive by enforcing these laws?


I think you believe that I am advocating for just stopping people who are Mexican/Central American for no reason. That's not the case. What I'm saying I'd that enforcing laws like DWI and other crimes and people guilty of those laws should be deported.

If that was the case illegals would see that it's not worth living here illegally.
We granted mass amnesty in 1986 to 3 million people. Today we have 20 million. They got the amnesty but the enforcement part was never enforced. With the mass influx of illegals since the local state and national budgets have exploded due to taxpayers being on the hook to babysit them and their extended families

I am for a limited legalization, I've stated in the past 4 years military service would qualify. Also in some very limited cases if an illegal can pay a huge fine (with no subsidies) they can get a green card but not citizenship.

Just issuing a quasi pardon will not stop people from coming here illegally

[spoon]

Who's for draconian over the top security? Enforce current laws, gut the handouts and deny them opportunities . They'll leave.

Your solution is a real winner. Expand the welfare state even more and rack up more debt and fleece taxpayers

2 sets of rules. Reward them for breaking the law but the rest of us have to follow the law or else get harassed with the might of every level of government

yes, please reward "them"

[spoon]

but but state rights to have welfare

perfect

[spoon]

I think you believe that I am advocating for just stopping people who are Mexican/Central American for no reason. That's not the case. What I'm saying I'd that enforcing laws like DWI and other crimes and people guilty of those laws should be deported.

If that was the case illegals would see that it's not worth living here illegally.
We granted mass amnesty in 1986 to 3 million people. Today we have 20 million. They got the amnesty but the enforcement part was never enforced. With the mass influx of illegals since the local state and national budgets have exploded due to taxpayers being on the hook to babysit them and their extended families

I am for a limited legalization, I've stated in the past 4 years military service would qualify. Also in some very limited cases if an illegal can pay a huge fine (with no subsidies) they can get a green card but not citizenship.

Just issuing a quasi pardon will not stop people from coming here illegally

this is awesome...just deport the DWI illegals and "other crimes" and all fixed!

yes WF, THAT solves it all!

:lol::lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

this is awesome...just deport the DWI illegals and "other crimes" and all fixed!

yes WF, THAT solves it all!

:lol::lol:

Awesome is your desire to just grant them citizenship along with every other handout.

[spoon]

Awesome is your desire to just grant them citizenship along with every other handout.


yah that's it!!!

idiot

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Barack nominates Janet Yellin to run one of the worlds biggest cartels.

[spoon]

is that so!?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yup , keep the cartel operating with no accountability, not even an audit

[spoon]

Woo!

[Snoogans]

does the clip on Jon Stewart tonight change anyones opinions? The clip of Boehner basically admitting he offered the Dems a deal that would keep Obamacare, and the dems accepted the deal and then he said fuck it, we dont care about our deal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nice work fuckbags

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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[Syd]

Nice work fuckbags

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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So you want the government to waste money by creating a system that is well in excess of capacity for the average use during the lifetime of the program?

the ~*free market*~ would do the same; look at major online game launches. servers shit the bed until use begins to normalize

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The free market doesn't force you to buy Grand Theft Auto

The government had over 3 years to get something as basic as websites but as usual crashed and burned.

Furthermore people actually want Grand theft Auto

I never wanted the government to collude with insurance companies and waste taxpayer money on websites that don't work and another program

Maybe this is intentional so that the call for single payer gets louder

[Jujubees2]

The government had over 3 years to get something as basic as websites but as usual crashed and burned.

Furthermore people actually want Grand theft Auto



WF must be related to Yogi Berra. So no one wants the AFA but the servers get overloaded by people trying to sign up for the AFA. Or as Yogi would say, "no one goes there anymore, it's too crowded."

[Midkiff]

Perhaps if it weren't for the shutdown, there would be IT folks to resolve the issues. Maybe that was one of the right-wing ideas to make this thing look shitty.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They contracted out the website maintenance and building to private firms.

Meaning most likely some HS computer club members

[sailor]

They contracted out the website maintenance and building to private firms.

Meaning most likely some HS computer club members

So private firms are the problem?!

[Snoogans]

I love how WF conveniently skips commenting on the posts that he cant spin into his agenda. So he just ignores those

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So private firms are the problem?!

Private firms who had over 3 years to get websites up and running, along with a government that failed to do its oversight and it's due diligence as well

Their QA and UAT testing practices are deplorable.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I love how WF conveniently skips commenting on the posts that he cant spin into his agenda. So he just ignores those

I just replied to Sailors inquiry.

[Midkiff]

And those little soaps at the hotel suck, too. Damn government oversight.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You have the option to bring your own soap.

[Snoogans]

I just replied to Sailors inquiry.

you didnt reply to mine. What about Boehner admitting he made a deal with Dems and then backing out after they accepted it? 3 times i posted about it and 3 times you ignored it. And you ignore most of the replies that people make when you post some BS picture that tries to act like Obama shut this down

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you didnt reply to mine. What about Boehner admitting he made a deal with Dems and then backing out after they accepted it? 3 times i posted about it and 3 times you ignored it. And you ignore most of the replies that people make when you post some BS picture that tries to act like Obama shut this down

Did you not see how many times I chastised Boehner and calling him the worst speaker in history?


What's there to reply to? He's a weakling. He has no negotiating talent at all. However are you really going to give Barack a Mulligan and saying he doesn't get any blame? He's a pathetic executive.

[Dude!]

However are you really going to give Barack a Mulligan and saying he doesn't get any blame? He's a pathetic executive.

he's lost 6 points during the "shutdown"
and is down to 37% according to gallup

after first thinking the republicans
were idiots, i'm wondering now if
maybe they know exactly what they
are doing

[WRESTLINGFAN]

he's lost 6 points during the "shutdown"
and is down to 37% according to gallup

after first thinking the republicans
were idiots, i'm wondering now if
maybe they know exactly what they
are doing

Those polls are racist

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Congress has a lower rating, but that's always been the case. Plus that rating isn't limited to just one person. Congress has 2 chambers.

[Snoogans]

Did you not see how many times I chastised Boehner and calling him the worst speaker in history?


What's there to reply to? He's a weakling. He has no negotiating talent at all. However are you really going to give Barack a Mulligan and saying he doesn't get any blame? He's a pathetic executive.

what should he get blame for? He was offered a deal, he took it, and then the other side reneged and demanded more shit. What exactly does he get blame for? Tryin to uphold laws that congress past? A deal is a deal.

So, in this case, no obama doesnt get any blame. And neither do the senate dems. They did their part, they made their concessions. Thats it.

[Snoogans]

Congress has a lower rating, but that's always been the case. Plus that rating isn't limited to just one person. Congress has 2 chambers.

they actually have polls that split them. Barack is in the low 40's to high 30s depending on the poll. Senate is around the same. House is under 10%. You figure it out

[Snoogans]

ill put a little example here for WF so he understands what is happening:
You are a yankee fan so im going to guess you are also a lakers/cowboys fan cause thats how you seem to roll, but im gonna use the giants for this

Lets say next off season, Eli decides to hold out (which would really be hilarious)He comes to the Giants and says I want X Y and Z.

The next day the Giants come back and say ok, we will give you X, Y and Z, everything you want. Here is the deal.

Then Eli decides, ehhh, I also want A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. Im still gonna hold out.


Would you really put any blame on the Giants for being pissed about that and not caving in? Thats essentially what just happened.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

what should he get blame for? He was offered a deal, he took it, and then the other side reneged and demanded more shit. What exactly does he get blame for? Tryin to uphold laws that congress past? A deal is a deal.

So, in this case, no obama doesnt get any blame. And neither do the senate dems. They did their part, they made their concessions. Thats it.



He's getting some of the blame because he is a bad executive . He's incapable of leading. Also his behavior during the shutdown has been one of a spoiled brat. He's acting like a child by closing parks monuments etc when that didn't happen en masse under Clinton

Yesterday's actions were low rent. Allowing the mall to be open for people who aren't supposed to be here gather and make demands. That is a dickbag move

[WRESTLINGFAN]

they actually have polls that split them. Barack is in the low 40's to high 30s depending on the poll. Senate is around the same. House is under 10%. You figure it out


For the most part people like their Senators and Reps but they hate others. As long as their guys bring back the pork they are going to be liked

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ill put a little example here for WF so he understands what is happening:
You are a yankee fan so im going to guess you are also a lakers/cowboys fan cause thats how you seem to roll, but im gonna use the giants for this

Lets say next off season, Eli decides to hold out (which would really be hilarious)He comes to the Giants and says I want X Y and Z.

The next day the Giants come back and say ok, we will give you X, Y and Z, everything you want. Here is the deal.

Then Eli decides, ehhh, I also want A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. Im still gonna hold out.


Would you really put any blame on the Giants for being pissed about that and not caving in? Thats essentially what just happened.


Lakers yes (Going back to Showtime days) but not Dallas

In contract talks there are going to be other teams interested. He doesn't have to stay with NY.

His agent can be blamed as well especially if he fills Elys head with those demands. Plus with the government there's a legislative body and an Executive

[Syd]

He's getting some of the blame because he is a bad executive . He's incapable of leading. Also his behavior during the shutdown has been one of a spoiled brat. He's acting like a child by closing parks monuments etc when that didn't happen en masse under Clinton

Yesterday's actions were low rent. Allowing the mall to be open for people who aren't supposed to be here gather and make demands. That is a dickbag move

The Park Service has a limited budget and there are more important things than letting people visit the monuments.

Since there's no additional funding their way, should they blow through their budget and recklessly spend so that the monuments stay open? Or do they prudently spend and try to keep vital operations going?

Republicans fucked up and thought they'd get massive concessions by shutting down the government. Blame Obama all you want but the House originates all spending bills -- if they aren't capable of delivering a bill that passes Senate and White House muster, they're the ones who have to make changes.

to go with another analogy, this is like when the French knights from the middle ages would show up and think they could win a battle through sheer elan

well the Flemish just showed up to respond and now the French are sitting there with their thumbs collectively up their asses and the best they can come up with is "nuh uh you attack first" when they're in Belgium

[Snoogans]

He's getting some of the blame because he is a bad executive . He's incapable of leading. Also his behavior during the shutdown has been one of a spoiled brat. He's acting like a child by closing parks monuments etc when that didn't happen en masse under Clinton

Yesterday's actions were low rent. Allowing the mall to be open for people who aren't supposed to be here gather and make demands. That is a dickbag move

The government was shutdown. Non essentially employees go. A fuckin park is not essential. HE WASNT THE ONE WHO CALLED FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SHUT DOWN.

And spoiled brat? No, he is acting like someone who made a deal and then the other side backed out and is now tryin to act like its his fault. Why should he fuckin sit down and negotiate with them AGAIN. They already did the negotiating.

Not to mention, if this was such a bad fuckin thing, why wont they vote on it? Oh, because its not bad and it will pass if they vote on it. So who is acting like a spoiled child? Maybe its the people who refuse to actually do their job AFTER THEY NEGOTIATED A FUCKIN DEAL


Im pretty sure you have no fuckin idea how anything works. Im surprised you even know how to turn on water to have a fuckin drink

[Snoogans]

For the most part people like their Senators and Reps but they hate others. As long as their guys bring back the pork they are going to be liked

so why is the senate approval in the 40s and the house is at an all time low under 10? You just spew out what you hear on Fox. Its fuckin fantastic

[Snoogans]

Lakers yes (Going back to Showtime days) but not Dallas

In contract talks there are going to be other teams interested. He doesn't have to stay with NY.

His agent can be blamed as well especially if he fills Elys head with those demands. Plus with the government there's a legislative body and an Executive

CAN YOU FUCKIN READ. ITS A HOLD OUT. NOT A FREE AGENT. YOU ARE THE MOST RETARDED PERSON I HAVE EVER TALKED TO

[Snoogans]

Lakers yes (Going back to Showtime days) but not Dallas

In contract talks there are going to be other teams interested. He doesn't have to stay with NY.

His agent can be blamed as well especially if he fills Elys head with those demands. Plus with the government there's a legislative body and an Executive

yea, and guess what, ONE GUY IS STOPPING THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB. That legislative body should be voting on whats there

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so why is the senate approval in the 40s and the house is at an all time low under 10? You just spew out what you hear on Fox. Its fuckin fantastic



Plain and simple . Fuck fox

You like your rep but hate the others. Can't be more clear than that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

CAN YOU FUCKIN READ. ITS A HOLD OUT. NOT A FREE AGENT. YOU ARE THE MOST RETARDED PERSON I HAVE EVER TALKED TO



I don't know the ins and outs of player / ownership details. You're the encyclopedia on that , however isn't it still in relation to terms of contract ?

[Snoogans]

Plain and simple . Fuck fox

You like your rep but hate the others. Can't be more clear than that

ok let me put this another way then.

the democratic party approval rating is pretty much in like with the rest, high 30s to mid 40s. GOP approval rating, also under 10. Being that voters are split almost 50 50 between the parties in this country, how do you explain that?

[Snoogans]

I don't know the ins and outs of player / ownership details. You're the encyclopedia on that , however isn't it still in relation to terms of contract ?

if you are holding out you are under contract, therefore NO OTHER TEAMS ARE NEGOTIATING WITH YOU. Eli, in the scenario, CANT GO TO ANOTHER PLACE CAUSE HE IS UNDER CONTRACT.

You might not know the ins and outs, but im pretty sure you are familiar with what a fuckin hold out is. Stop being a moron

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The government was shutdown. Non essentially employees go. A fuckin park is not essential. HE WASNT THE ONE WHO CALLED FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SHUT DOWN.

And spoiled brat? No, he is acting like someone who made a deal and then the other side backed out and is now tryin to act like its his fault. Why should he fuckin sit down and negotiate with them AGAIN. They already did the negotiating.

Not to mention, if this was such a bad fuckin thing, why wont they vote on it? Oh, because its not bad and it will pass if they vote on it. So who is acting like a spoiled child? Maybe its the people who refuse to actually do their job AFTER THEY NEGOTIATED A FUCKIN DEAL


Im pretty sure you have no fuckin idea how anything works. Im surprised you even know how to turn on water to have a fuckin drink

He's acting like a child because he feels that he can get away with it. You're trying to classify me as a partisan when I've already put blame on Boehner also. Barack isn't getting off so easily. He's down to 37%. That's from Gallup. Bush at his lowest wasn't that far lower.


Barack has been shielded and has deflected and has not been held accountable. Maybe the Teflon is starting to fade away and people are finally seeing how much of a baby he is acting. Wanna blame Boehner? Fine , I agree but giving this president a free pass is being ultra partisan

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ok let me put this another way then.

the democratic party approval rating is pretty much in like with the rest, high 30s to mid 40s. GOP approval rating, also under 10. Being that voters are split almost 50 50 between the parties in this country, how do you explain that?

I saw the approval rating at 24% according. Deplorable yes but the Dems are at 35% that's not as bad as the GOP but still not stellar

They both suck.

[Snoogans]

He's acting like a child because he feels that he can get away with it. You're trying to classify me as a partisan when I've already put blame on Boehner also. Barack isn't getting off so easily. He's down to 37%. That's from Gallup. Bush at his lowest wasn't that far lower.


Barack has been shielded and has deflected and has not been held accountable. Maybe the Teflon is starting to fade away and people are finally seeing how much of a baby he is acting. Wanna blame Boehner? Fine , I agree but giving this president a free pass is being ultra partisan

he is down to 37% and thats from gallup. Awesome.Im on gallups website right now and their NEWEST daily approval for obama is 44%. You are making shit up.

Im not giving the president a free pass on his entire fuckin term. Im giving him a pass on the part where he NEGOTIATED with the house republicans and they came to an agreement. Then at the last minute, the house republicans backed out of that agreement. What the fuck is Obama supposed to do? He already conceded to them to the tune of 70 billion dollars. In this instance, he is doing exactly what he should. You dont go back to the table with people you already made a deal with and they backed out. Thats not how the world works.

You want him held accountable. OK, in this instance, Barack Obama is accountable for sitting down in july, negotiating, agreeing to a deal that had many concessions from himself, and then watching while the other side snaked out of an agreement.

If you want to argue other shit that has nothing to do with this, then sure, we can take obama to task for things he has done. Im not a huge fan of the guy, to be honest. But if you look at just this situation objectively, there is NO WAY you can put the blame on anyone but the GOP, period.

[Snoogans]

I saw the approval rating at 24% according. Deplorable yes but the Dems are at 35% that's not as bad as the GOP but still not stellar

They both suck.

according to gallup, your favorite polling site, dems are at 43 and repubs are at 28. How about you actually look shit up.

BTW, tea party, though i cant find any sites as reliable as gallup, is at like 13%.

Regardless, if the dem party approval is 43, and congress as a whole is under 10, who the fuck is dragging that down?

And FYI, on an aside from an earlier point, my house rep is Scott Garrett. I have been in a week long email argument with him (his staffers, whoever) and I definately DO NOT APPROVE of his actions. So not everyone likes their own guy. And for disclosure, I used to like him alot. I voted for him. His actions durin this situation have completely turned me

[WRESTLINGFAN]

if you are holding out you are under contract, therefore NO OTHER TEAMS ARE NEGOTIATING WITH YOU. Eli, in the scenario, CANT GO TO ANOTHER PLACE CAUSE HE IS UNDER CONTRACT.

You might not know the ins and outs, but im pretty sure you are familiar with what a fuckin hold out is. Stop being a moron


Have teams ever cut players for holding out? What are the ramifications?

If he does get cut the contract is over and he can negotiate with another team if that's the case no ?

[Snoogans]

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/mmj6rr5b6kem323wnfrlva.png

i mean this chart makes it pretty clear. The dems arent exactly tearing it up, but look at the free fall that the republican party is in the middle of

[Snoogans]

Have teams ever cut players for holding out? What are the ramifications?

If he does get cut the contract is over and he can negotiate with another team if that's the case no ?

ok ill answer your curiosity but just so you know, this is no longer about the point i made. The point i made was about who would take the blame, not the process.

The ramifications for cutting a guy is, whatever prorated bonuses he has left hit the cap right away. Essentially, Guaranteed money. If the giants were to cut eli after this year, the cap hit would be around 40% of there total cap. Its not feasible. If he was to be cut, then yes, he would be an unrestricted Free Agent.

But again, this no longer has anything to do with the point I made. Obama cant just cut congress cause they are holding out over BS.

[Snoogans]

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/mmj6rr5b6kem323wnfrlva.png

i mean this chart makes it pretty clear. The dems arent exactly tearing it up, but look at the free fall that the republican party is in the middle of

also, according to gallup, approval of peoples own rep is at 44%, which falls pretty perfectly in line with the dem party. So that doesnt give any excuse as to why the Repubs are so low

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I got the 37% from AP. I try not to use biased site. My bad for not looking at Gallup directly.


You might not like your local congressman however, the reelection rate among both houses are very high. Some as high as 85%

I'm sure you already know that I vote 3rd party and both parties blow, But come on, Barack doesn't get any blame?

I know he's disappointed on drones, spying, foreign intervention, and yes Obamacare (a lot of people here wanted single payer) but for some to say that he's getting a pass is just letting him off the hook.

A good executive like Clinton wouldn't be holding press conferences and acting like a baby. Lead for once

[Snoogans]

I got the 37% from AP. I try not to use biased site. My bad for not looking at Gallup directly.


You might not like your local congressman however, the reelection rate among both houses are very high. Some as high as 85%

I'm sure you already know that I vote 3rd party and both parties blow, But come on, Barack doesn't get any blame?

I know he's disappointed on drones, spying, foreign intervention, and yes Obamacare (a lot of people here wanted single payer) but for some to say that he's getting a pass is just letting him off the hook.

A good executive like Clinton wouldn't be holding press conferences and acting like a baby. Lead for once

like i said earlier, approval rate for own candidates is 44%. Not some 90% BS you wish it was.

And the bold part, fine, you could argue that. That has nothing to do with the house not voting on a fuckin budget, period.

You want him to lead, but you dont realize he is. Leaders dont cave in to the BS. He is leading by not going back and giving them more. He already conceded plenty to them. Now its time to stand strong and lead. I dont see why you cant understand that we are separating this issue from his entire record. We are just speaking about this.

Trust me there is a long list of things i dont give him a pass for. Its why I didnt vote for him last year

[WRESTLINGFAN]

like i said earlier, approval rate for own candidates is 44%. Not some 90% BS you wish it was.

And the bold part, fine, you could argue that. That has nothing to do with the house not voting on a fuckin budget, period.

You want him to lead, but you dont realize he is. Leaders dont cave in to the BS. He is leading by not going back and giving them more. He already conceded plenty to them. Now its time to stand strong and lead. I dont see why you cant understand that we are separating this issue from his entire record. We are just speaking about this.

Trust me there is a long list of things i dont give him a pass for. Its why I didnt vote for him last year

Leaders shine in times like these. He's not the leader like Clinton is. In 1995-96 The GOP lost seats and Clinton was reelected. These are different times, especially economically, plus Clinton didn't have the albatross of Obamacare. Hillarycare was already shot down and he moved on

[Snoogans]

Leaders shine in times like these. He's not the leader like Clinton is. In 1995-96 The GOP lost seats and Clinton was reelected. These are different times, especially economically, plus Clinton didn't have the albatross of Obamacare. Hillarycare was already shot down and he moved on

i didnt say he was clinton. Guess what, not alot of guys are like clinton.

Why is obamacare such an albatross? You know things can be tweaked to work better right? Let it go out and see what needs to be fixed and then fix it. I dont understand when everyone in congress became fuckin psychics. None of them or people like you, when they make those comments, ever give any reasons WHY its going to be so bad. EVER. Why is it such a disaster? And regardless, its the fuckin LAW. Pass a budget, and then go about changing the law if you dont like it. Thats how we do things.

Regardless, you still seem to be having trouble. You wanna blame Obama in this budget thing because he uses drones? Blame him for using drones, but that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. IN THIS INSTANCE, ITS NOT HIS FAULT. IN THIS INSTANCE. Can you wrap your puerto rican head around that?

[Snoogans]

i love how you also ignored that chart. and all the other things that show you people feelings arent really changing much on the democratic party, and their opinions are TANKING on the republican party.

Im not just ripping off talking points. I have backed up all my statements with the statistics showing what I am saying. How about, for once, people just listen. Just listen to facts

[Snoogans]

I have to go to work, so for now this will be my last point on this.

I dont like Obama. I did like my GOP congressman. I now dont like him even 1%. My feeling on Obama is about the same. That is how I know this thing is not his fault.

I didnt vote him back in, but he is the president, so I have to live with that. So I look at what he does objectively. If he does something wrong, Ill call him out. If he does something right, ill be man enough to admit that. There has been times where his leadership has looked shaky. And there have been times where it was so fuckin good even Chris Christie was up his ass.

But looking objectively, Obama is doing the right thing right now. The republicans arent. I cant put it anymore clear than that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

i love how you also ignored that chart. and all the other things that show you people feelings arent really changing much on the democratic party, and their opinions are TANKING on the republican party.

Im not just ripping off talking points. I have backed up all my statements with the statistics showing what I am saying. How about, for once, people just listen. Just listen to facts

I've addressed your points. Talking points would be saying that there is nothing wrong with the GOP. I've already addressed that both parties suck. One more than another but the Dems aren't stellar.

[Snoogans]

I've addressed your points. Talking points would be saying that there is nothing wrong with the GOP. I've already addressed that both parties suck. One more than another but the Dems aren't stellar.

no one ever said they were. But your numbers always seem to be consistently off. Stop looking at Rasmussen polls and watching Fox

[Kevin]

I'd like to add that if its on the AP, ITS GOTTA BE TRUE.

So you lose, Snoogs.

[Snoogans]

I'd like to add that if its on the AP, ITS GOTTA BE TRUE.

So you lose, Snoogs.

oh yea, i forgot. Fuck what Gallup says Gallups numbers are. Its about what the AP says it is.

Btw, I dont know what AP thing you read, but Obamas gallup approval rating hasnt fallen below 39. EVER. And 39 was back in june and july. OF 2011! Its actually higher now than it was the first week of august this year

[Midkiff]

How about that airline food? Damn government.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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Only in the world of government would they call that huge demand and a success.

So much for building a better mousetrap and having the world beat a path to our door

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Dude!]

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that's a joke video, right?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

that's a joke video, right?



The joke is Obamacare

[Kevin]

How about that airline food? Damn government.

Hippos is a fat mess that posts 100 stupid baby pics a day on Facebook.. THANKS OBAMA!

[Syd]

one time obamacare kicked my dog true story

[SonOfSmeagol]

obamacare is a dog
true story
fixed

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hopefully Obamacare doesn't eat dogs

[epo]

The joke is Obamacare

Good one.

You should send that one to Ted Cruz. Maybe he'll use it during his next fake filibuster.

[spoon]

Idiot fuckest over yet?

Wf, dude & sos...worst think tank ever.

Insert comic book guy here -> x

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Janet Yellen will probably get confirmed with no issues to chair the fed

Just what we need , someone controlling the money supply to use it for social justice.

Next time Barack squawks for higher income taxes and everyone gloms on just remember that goes to pay off interest to a cartel of bankers

[SonOfSmeagol]

Idiot fuckest over yet?

Wf, dude & sos...worst think tank ever.

Insert comic book guy here -> x
yawn. just another internet asswipe with nothing to say. dime a dozen

[foodcourtdruide]

Janet Yellen will probably get confirmed with no issues to chair the fed

Just what we need , someone controlling the money supply to use it for social justice.

Next time Barack squawks for higher income taxes and everyone gloms on just remember that goes to pay off interest to a cartel of bankers

Which right wing website gave you that opinion?

Why do you focus on some vague allusion to her using money supply for social justice, instead of her incredible resume?

2010–present Vice Chair, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System
2004–2010 President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
1997–1999 Chair, President's Council of Economic Advisers
1994–1997 Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
1985–present Professor, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
1982–1985 Associate Professor, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
1980–1982 Assistant Professor, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
1978–1980 Lecturer, London School of Economics and Political Science
1977–1978 Economist, Division of International Finance, Trade and Financial Studies Section, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
1971–1976 Assistant Professor, Department of Economics, Harvard University
1974 Research Fellow, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Oh but wait, Obama supports her! Let me find an article that makes me feel better about my obsession with hating everything about Obama!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Which right wing website gave you that opinion?

Why do you focus on some vague allusion to her using money supply for social justice, instead of her incredible resume?

2010–present Vice Chair, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System
2004–2010 President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
1997–1999 Chair, President's Council of Economic Advisers
1994–1997 Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
1985–present Professor, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
1982–1985 Associate Professor, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
1980–1982 Assistant Professor, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
1978–1980 Lecturer, London School of Economics and Political Science
1977–1978 Economist, Division of International Finance, Trade and Financial Studies Section, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
1971–1976 Assistant Professor, Department of Economics, Harvard University
1974 Research Fellow, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Oh but wait, Obama supports her! Let me find an article that makes me feel better about my obsession with hating everything about Obama!

Almost no private sector experience.
Just another person entrenched in the government/academia complex for most of her life

You should actually do research on the federal reserve and see the damage it has done to the purchasing power and responsible for the bubbles and busts

[foodcourtdruide]

Almost no private sector experience.
Just another person entrenched in the government/academia complex for most of her life

You should actually do research on the federal reserve and see the damage it has done to the purchasing power and responsible for the bubbles and busts

Why do you believe private sector experience matters, besides having been told that by a right-wing thought leader?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why do you believe private sector experience matters, besides having been told that by a right-wing thought leader?

What's your obsession with bringing up right wing websites. That's just as bad when people say Librul Media


Can you actually analyze anything and quit being snarky for once?

Lets just appoint someone who just writes peer reviewed dissertations and papers about theory and hypothesis about a multi trillion dollar economy but spent 40 years in a bubble



Why aren't you addressing the actual operations and functions of the fed as well as how it has not been beneficial? Maybe you know or don't know about the fed. I'm not sure about that, however people who do know what the fed has done in it's 100 years and never being audited despite being a private bank (colluding with government) just want the practice to continue of creating debt from nothing.

People get pissed of at Wall Street but many are ignorant of the feds role.


Yellen, looks to continue the spigot pouring of 85 billion monthly

[foodcourtdruide]

What's your obsession with bringing up right wing websites. That's just as bad when people say Librul Media


Can you actually analyze anything and quit being snarky for once?

Lets just appoint someone who just writes peer reviewed dissertations and papers about theory and hypothesis about a multi trillion dollar economy but spent 40 years in a bubble



Why aren't you addressing the actual operations and functions of the fed as well as how it has not been beneficial? Maybe you know or don't know about the fed. I'm not sure about that, however people who do know what the fed has done in it's 100 years and never being audited despite being a private bank (colluding with government) just want the practice to continue of creating debt from nothing.

People get pissed of at Wall Street but many are ignorant of the feds role.


Yellen, looks to continue the spigot pouring of 85 billion monthly

I keep bringing it up because everyone on this forums knows that you incessantly mimic right-wing talking points.

I am not NEARLY qualified to give an intelligent economic opinion. Neither are you, but you are qualified to read a right-wing website that gives you an opinion and parrot it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I keep bringing it up because everyone on this forums knows that you incessantly mimic right-wing talking points.

I am not NEARLY qualified to give an intelligent economic opinion. Neither are you, but you are qualified to read a right-wing website that gives you an opinion and parrot it.

It's not talking points.


So my economics degree as well as experience in brokerage firms, investment banks and buy side asset managers and now daytrading doesn't count?

Or my own research on the fed when in college when my professors were gushing over Greenspan

Let me guess, more right wing websites.

[foodcourtdruide]

It's not talking points.


So my economics degree as well as experience in brokerage firms, investment banks and buy side asset managers and now daytrading doesn't count?

Or my own research on the fed when in college when my professors were gushing over Greenspan

Let me guess, more right wing websites.

You think being a daytrader makes you an expert on the economy? That's like saying someone who scratches lottery tickets is an expert on the economy.

[foodcourtdruide]

It's not talking points.


So my economics degree as well as experience in brokerage firms, investment banks and buy side asset managers and now daytrading doesn't count?

Or my own research on the fed when in college when my professors were gushing over Greenspan

Let me guess, more right wing websites.

Sorry, I can't argue with you all day. I have to get back to my real job. Good luck at your made-up-so-you-can-win-an-internet-argument job.