2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread

[spoon]

That's crazy, and possibly racist

please tell me you aren't surprised?

[Dude!]

FLOTUS is not attractive


Beyonce, Vanessa Williams and Halle Berry are beautiful black women

No racism in my opinion

if you only look at the top half
of michelle's face, she is AOK

it's that gigantic Jay Leno - Habsburg
rock jaw of hers that spoils everything

[cougarjake13]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/Romney-Face-Swap.jpg



Ann with Romney face looks like the blonde guy from gigolos brace I think is his name

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The latest GDP numbers are in and they are a dismal 2% for last qtr

[A.J.]

Why do either even bother?

NY is always in the bag for dems.

Do they really think their obvious, shameless endorsements will change anything?

See also Washington Post. Oh, I miss the days when they endorsed Marion Barry for Mayor.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

WaPo

The other paper of record and most trusted

[spoon]

The latest GDP numbers are in and they are a dismal 2% for last qtr

and the gop rejoices on bad gdp numbers

something is wrong as both parties run to stop the other, not actually do anything

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and the gop rejoices on bad gdp numbers

something is wrong as both parties run to stop the other, not actually do anything

Yup I see Reince Priebus leading tickertape parades.

Do you realize that this years growth is less than last years and less than 2010? The trend is going down

I want the congress and the president to get out of the way because what they have done did not bring massive growth.


The Stockmarket at 13K isnt a valid argument. Its another bubble with cheap money available to foreigners to invest thanks to the federal reserve. There is no way the market should be this high

[spoon]

Yup I see Reince Priebus leading tickertape parades.

Do you realize that this years growth is less than last years and less than 2010? The trend is going down

I want the congress and the president to get out of the way because what they have done did not bring massive growth.


The Stockmarket at 13K isnt a valid argument. Its another bubble with cheap money available to foreigners to invest thanks to the federal reserve. There is no way the market should be this high

is it wf? is it less this year, less than the year before and then the year before that?

parrot alert...AGAIN

talk like a human, not with fucking tag lines tied to parties

the US and world economies are a mess and it's tied to some REALLY shitty policy of the past and mistakes currently digging out, no doubt. yet trying to pin this on Obama or one party is stupid at this point, as BOTH have involvement. and for the record I never mentioned the market ONCE, but thanks for telling me it isn't a valid argument

[WRESTLINGFAN]

is it wf? is it less this year, less than the year before and then the year before that?

parrot alert...AGAIN

talk like a human, not with fucking tag lines tied to parties

the US and world economies are a mess and it's tied to some REALLY shitty policy of the past and mistakes currently digging out, no doubt. yet trying to pin this on Obama or one party is stupid at this point, as BOTH have involvement. and for the record I never mentioned the market ONCE, but thanks for telling me it isn't a valid argument

Its called looking at the numbers. Theres no parroting. When you can't defend your point, you lash out boring lines as usual.

Well if Keynesian economics werent implemented the GDP could be at around 4-5% possibly.

Obama said in his own words if he didnt have the economy turned around in 3 years it would be a 1 term proposition. His record says it all.

Since you also brought up about shit not getting done, I will go your route and say that Obama has no time for his jobs council, he hardly meets with them. Pimp wit a limp and MTV are more important.

Amazing how you will keep saying He killed Bin Laden but provide cover for him on his failures.

[spoon]

This is the only true reason Reince Priebus would ever lead tickertape parades. The perfect candidate! (if they added the virgin Mary in the background that is)


http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NXBlkqJQao8/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAEE/kSta2ZeF3vo/photo.jpg

[spoon]

Its called looking at the numbers. Theres no parroting. When you can't defend your point, you lash out boring lines as usual.

Well if Keynesian economics werent implemented the GDP could be at around 4-5% possibly.

Obama said in his own words if he didnt have the economy turned around in 3 years it would be a 1 term proposition. His record says it all.

Since you also brought up about shit not getting done, I will go your route and say that Obama has no time for his jobs council, he hardly meets with them. Pimp wit a limp and MTV are more important.

Amazing how you will keep saying He killed Bin Laden but provide cover for him on his failures.

no defense of my point?! do you read what you type? and without looking up the specifics of said gdp, let me hear the basic rundown of the years you speak of and factors influencing the numbers? I'm sure you have little to no idea on this, but simply rehashed what you heard so many times and were fucking told. You have no points until you're told what to worry/rant about.

and I keep saying he killed Bin Laden?! WTF are you reading and do you know where you are right now?

WTF WF?!

A slogan and mod quote is born...no EARNED!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no defense of my point?! do you read what you type? and without looking up the specifics of said gdp, let me hear the basic rundown of the years you speak of and factors influencing the numbers? I'm sure you have little to no idea on this, but simply rehashed what you heard so many times and were fucking told. You have no points until you're told what to worry/rant about.

and I keep saying he killed Bin Laden?! WTF are you reading and do you know where you are right now?

WTF WF?!

A slogan and mod quote is born...no EARNED!

Its called looking at the facts and analysis. Not just looking at the headlines doled out like the GM bailout being a success like you fall into

I have plenty of idea on everything thats being hashed out and I delve into the underbelly

[spoon]

ha!

talk about spinning this 180!

I just look at headlines now, not the guy repeating them and tag lines all fucking day long like a GOP infused tourettes patient that can't get help bc they aren't able to find medical coverage. You can't even stay on topic, EVER, if there's a chance to get one out. It's like twitter encroached on your brain and you are incapable of staying any path of discourse long enough to break it down past talking points. And even when you do somehow find a way, it's everything straight from the talking point notes.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ha!

talk about spinning this 180!

I just look at headlines now, not the guy repeating them and tag lines all fucking day long like a GOP infused tourettes patient that can't get help bc they aren't able to find medical coverage. You can't even stay on topic, EVER, if there's a chance to get one out. It's like twitter encroached on your brain and you are incapable of staying any path of discourse long enough to break it down past talking points. And even when you do somehow find a way, it's everything straight from the talking point notes.

I have to disagree with Dude about you

You are not a narcissist

you are a sad person

[hanso]

The latest GDP numbers are in and they are a dismal 2% for last qtr

How is 2 dismal when 3 is acceptable?

[Snoogans]

How is 2 dismal when 3 is acceptable?

well in fairness, when you are dealing with numbers that big, 2 and 3% is a pretty big fuckin difference

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How is 2 dismal when 3 is acceptable?



We were supposed to be at sub 6% UE and about 4.5% GDP growth at this point

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This just has naivety all over it. Its awful on all counts.



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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Spoon like to being up parroting now


Squawk!!!! GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead.

[spoon]

Spoon like to being up parroting now


Squawk!!!! GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead.

I haven't touched on EITHER, so good point fuckface.

Why do I ever expect more? If I'm anything, it's too God damn nice to fools.

[cougarjake13]

she's not that sexy

would I fuck her ... yes

but I don't think that's a sexy ad

[sailor]

she's not that sexy

would I fuck her ... yes

but I don't think that's a sexy ad

I don't think she sees herself as sexy. Plus, I'd think the ad's aimed more at young girls.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Young girls did great voting for Obama the 1st time

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I saw Barack Voted early in Chicago this past week. I wonder if he kept with local tradition and voted 35 times

[KnoxHarrington]

Young girls did great voting for Obama the 1st time

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

So they're gonna go vote for the party that thinks a rape baby is a present from Jesus?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So they're gonna go vote for the party that thinks a rape baby is a present from Jesus?



They should vote for a candidate like Gary Johnson so they can make enough money to buy all the contraception they want. and still be able to afford a handbag or shoes.

[KnoxHarrington]

They should vote for a candidate like Gary Johnson so they can make enough money to buy all the contraception they want. and still be able to afford a handbag or shoes.

At least Dude!'s posts are a bit interesting in a Dadaist way because of the weird, haiku-like spacing. These posts are just garbage.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

At least Dude!'s posts are a bit interesting in a Dadaist way because of the weird, haiku-like spacing. These posts are just garbage.

Garbage is that little girl gullible ad that Lena Dunham made. Was that from a SuperPAC or did the Obama campaign approve that message?

[underdog]

At least Dude!'s posts are a bit interesting in a Dadaist way because of the weird, haiku-like spacing. These posts are just garbage.

Garbage is that little girl gullible ad that Lena Dunham made. Was that from a SuperPAC or did the Obama campaign approve that message?

http://i.imgur.com/PdCAA.gif

[brettmojo]

Looks like the GOP is at the very least accomplishing one thing (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/27/14740413-ap-poll-majority-harbor-prejudice-against-blacks?lite)...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another half assed written article by NBC news. They never cease to explain the whole scenario. Wanna talk bigotry? How about Jews being at the top of being hate crime victims? If you're openly gay, better stay in the closet in the black and Hispanic communities. They don't take too kindly to their type.
Racism towards Asians ? To a lot in the black community everyone's a chink.


Romney won't get 95% of the vote from blacks. Many Christians both white and black won't vote for a Mormon

There are plenty of Democrats, Progressives etc who are also bigots

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Voting for Obama on basis of race is just as dumb as voting against him based on race

[epo]

Another half assed written article by NBC news. They never cease to explain the whole scenario. Wanna talk bigotry? How about Jews being at the top of being hate crime victims? If you're openly gay, better stay in the closet in the black and Hispanic communities. They don't take too kindly to their type.
Racism towards Asians ? To a lot in the black community everyone's a chink.


Romney won't get 95% of the vote from blacks. Many Christians both white and black won't vote for a Mormon

There are plenty of Democrats, Progressives etc who are also bigots

Your logical fallacies are often the highlight of my day.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oooohhh Pseudo intellectual talk from Dr Epo.


That's just code for no valid points

[cougarjake13]

I don't think she sees herself as sexy. Plus, I'd think the ad's aimed more at young girls.



the YouTube title says sexy ad so that's where I got it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The pale almost uncooked bacon fat like complexion combined with the Williamsburgh Brooklyn helmet head hair and look at me I am unique tattoo just doesn't cut it for me as sexy

[sailor]

the YouTube title says sexy ad so that's where I got it

ah, didn't notice that.

[Dude!]

Spoon like to being up parroting now


Squawk!!!! GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead.

you are so right...
he's all about the party line
GM is alive! bin Laden is dead!
Reproductive rights!
he just spouts what he hears
on MSNBC

[Snoogans]

am I the only one who has no idea who this chick is?

[sailor]

am I the only one who has no idea who this chick is?

she wrote and was the lead in the cable show "girls"

[Snoogans]

she wrote and was the lead in the cable show "girls"

never heard of it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you are so right...
he's all about the party line
GM is alive! bin Laden is dead!
Reproductive rights!
he just spouts what he hears
on MSNBC


Speaking of reproductive rights


The Matriarch of that movement , Margaret Sanger personified racist

[Snoogans]

this shoulda been obamas commercial. I would vote for him over GJ if he ran this on tv:

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[Dude!]

Speaking of reproductive rights


The Matriarch of that movement , Margaret Sanger personified racist

tell me about it...
that ho was the
mother of eugenics

her plan was to do away
with the inferior (in her mind)
black race through abortion

the feminist left champions
that agenda now, while guys
like Akin and Mourdock
defend the black babies
and are hated for it

[deliciousV]

So they're gonna go vote for the party that thinks a rape baby is a present from Jesus?

"The party"? Well using this logic we can say the Democrats are the party that believes islands float and can be tipped over.

[hanso]

We were supposed to be at sub 6% UE and about 4.5% GDP growth at this point

No most economists said it would take many years to shake of this recession much like the track we have been on.

[hanso]

So they're gonna go vote for the party that thinks a rape baby is a present from Jesus?

What classification of rape would that be?

"The party"? Well using this logic we can say the Democrats are the party that believes islands float and can be tipped over.

1 man v the main stay of the religious right that drives the tea party / neo-cons.

[deliciousV]

What classification of rape would that be?



1 man v the main stay of the religious right that drives the tea party / neo-cons.

the Party platform allows for abortions in the case of rape and incest.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

"The party"? Well using this logic we can say the Democrats are the party that believes islands float and can be tipped over.

Or that animals can sue people

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No most economists said it would take many years to shake of this recession much like the track we have been on.

Respected Economists like Christina Romer predicted sub 6% if the stimulus was passed

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Letterman calls out Obama on lying about what Romney said about Detroit


http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=david+letterman+obama+gm+bailout&tnr=21&vid=&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUA.4 13894968360%26pid%3D15.1&tit=Letterman+Say%2C+Obama%26%2339%3Bs+kind+of+lyi ng+about+this+GM+bankruptcy+...

No Romney fan but he knows more about the auto industry since his father was CEO of AMC

Obamas father was a polygamist alcoholic. What does Barack know about the auto industry?

[spoon]

Another half assed written article by NBC news. They never cease to explain the whole scenario. Wanna talk bigotry? How about Jews being at the top of being hate crime victims? If you're openly gay, better stay in the closet in the black and Hispanic communities. They don't take too kindly to their type.
Racism towards Asians ? To a lot in the black community everyone's a chink.


Romney won't get 95% of the vote from blacks. Many Christians both white and black won't vote for a Mormon

There are plenty of Democrats, Progressives etc who are also bigots

Yes yes, NBC should write in WF fashion that spirals out of control with no singular topic or point. To effectively make a point one must continuously go off on tangents and see the angles that only an idiot would bring up in some failed attempt to cloud the actual intent or reason the study/survey was done. The writers surely should have tackled these different topics, and since they aren't, of course they are on the wrong side of those arguments right!? Hell, why not talk about loose nukes and starving kids!? WTF NBC, you like starving kids and loose nukes? Since you didn't bring them up, you must be. Fucking figures!

Of course this article wasn't tied to the election and how the sentiment seemingly changing in our culture over the last 4 years alone may impact said voting. Yet sure WF, why would they have such a focus and clear subject in their writing style. It's all about ulterior motive and impact geared toward your needs and they should know this!

Oh and one more great thing, it's an AP report on an AP poll. It's simply being reported ON NBC's site. But hey, fuck facts. Fuck them in their face.

[spoon]

Your logical fallacies are often the highlight of my day.

Oooohhh Pseudo intellectual talk from Dr Epo.


That's just code for no valid points

Nah, he nailed it in fine fashion and I should take notes. Why do I even bother, even if hilarious as epo hints.

[spoon]

Voting for Obama on basis of race is just as dumb as voting against him based on race

So I ask you, who here ever said voting for Obama on the basis of race is smart?

EVER?!

You argue with yourself and couldn't look more idiotic on a daily basis. It's pretty much unreal at this point.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes yes, NBC should write in WF fashion that spirals out of control with no singular topic or point. To effectively make a point one must continuously go off on tangents and see the angles that only an idiot would bring up in some failed attempt to cloud the actual intent or reason the study/survey was done. The writers surely should have tackled these different topics, and since they aren't, of course they are on the wrong side of those arguments right!? Hell, why not talk about loose nukes and starving kids!? WTF NBC, you like starving kids and loose nukes? Since you didn't bring them up, you must be. Fucking figures!

Of course this article wasn't tied to the election and how the sentiment seemingly changing in our culture over the last 4 years alone may impact said voting. Yet sure WF, why would they have such a focus and clear subject in their writing style. It's all about ulterior motive and impact geared toward your needs and they should know this!

Oh and one more great thing, it's an AP report on an AP poll. It's simply being reported ON NBC's site. But hey, fuck facts. Fuck them in their face.

Speaking of loose things. Thank you again for sounding like a loose cannon


Yea Fuck facts like Obama lying about what Romney said about The bankruptcy


Ok so the AP wrote it. My oversight.


It's not like I allowed embassy staff and security to be butchered in real time like your government did

[cougarjake13]

So I ask you, who here ever said voting for Obama on the basis of race is smart?

EVER?!

You argue with yourself and couldn't look more idiotic on a daily basis. It's pretty much unreal at this point.



he's bipolar and each personality doesn't know of the other

[spoon]

Speaking of reproductive rights


The Matriarch of that movement , Margaret Sanger personified racist

you two off making stupid arguments against things nobody here argued for about in any way again

and here i thought stupidity couldn't be cutesy

it's like talking to a random GOP soundboard with with some kkk infused (dude!)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So I ask you, who here ever said voting for Obama on the basis of race is smart?

EVER?!

You argue with yourself and couldn't look more idiotic on a daily basis. It's pretty much unreal at this point.

I was addressing that as well as my reply to only the GOP wanting racism in regards to BM's link

[spoon]

Speaking of loose things. Thank you again for sounding like a loose cannon


Yea Fuck facts like Obama lying about what Romney said about The bankruptcy


Ok so the AP wrote it. My oversight.


It's not like I allowed embassy staff and security to be butchered in real time like your government did

GOP Tourettes!

[spoon]

I was addressing that as well as my reply to only the GOP wanting racism in regards to BM's link

Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats)...

Disgusting overall with both parties, but fucking 79%?!

Sure there is inherent racism in most people unfortunately as reported overall, but 79% are all but proud of their prejudice and as we see with dude, revel in it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama won the war of semantics for the 2nd debate in regards to Libya . Ever since there has been more fallout from the Benghazi and more evidence of mismanagement and miscommunication btwn DoD, State, the intel community and POTUS


I'll reiterate. This isn't a white house cover up (yet) however as more evidence comes out it shows that Obama is not a good executive when he can't get his people in line and get to the bottom.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Disgusting overall with both parties, but fucking 79%?!

Sure there is inherent racism in most people unfortunately as reported overall, but 79% are all but proud of their prejudice and as we see with dude, revel in it.



Obama is going to get 95% of black voters

When you break that down a large chunk of that are voting on skin color

[spoon]

Obama is going to get 95% of black voters

When you break that down a large chunk of that are voting on skin color

ok

now what?

[spoon]

Obama won the war of semantics for the 2nd debate in regards to Libya . Ever since there has been more fallout from the Benghazi and more evidence of mismanagement and miscommunication btwn DoD, State, the intel community and POTUS


I'll reiterate. This isn't a white house cover up (yet) however as more evidence comes out it shows that Obama is not a good executive when he can't get his people in line and get to the bottom.

as long as you have your angle

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ok

now what?


They are voting just on race !!!

They don't want Mitt so that's bigotry against a white man based on that reasoning


I won't direct this to you directly but in general I've heard that minorities specifically blacks can't be bigots and racists because they haven't been in power.


If a black person goes up to an Asian and slants their eyes with their fingers and just yells Ching chow Ching chow repeatedly , he's showing bigotry


If someone's last name is Lopez and makes a statement about Obama being a nigger, he is also showing those traits

[spoon]

They are voting just on race !!!

They don't want Mitt so that's bigotry against a white man based on that reasoning


I won't direct this to you directly but in general I've heard that minorities specifically blacks can't be bigots and racists because they haven't been in power.


If a black person goes up to an Asian and slants their eyes with their fingers and just yells Ching chow Ching chow repeatedly , he's showing bigotry


If someone's last name is Lopez and makes a statement about Obama being a nigger, he is also showing those traits

no shit WF, i don't see anyone arguing against this being wrong

interesting question, what was the percentage of african americans who voted for dems in the past versus Obama? my guess is it's quite similar, as their race is more aligned with a party versus just voting based on their skin color. It may have added reason to get out and actually partake, and can you truly blame someone at this point in our country's history. It took until 2008 in order to have our first non-white male president EVER.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no shit WF, i don't see anyone arguing against this being wrong

interesting question, what was the percentage of african americans who voted for dems in the past versus Obama? my guess is it's quite similar, as their race is more aligned with a party versus just voting based on their skin color. It may have added reason to get out and actually partake, and can you truly blame someone at this point in our country's history. It took until 2008 in order to have our first non-white male president EVER.

I don't know off hand but I'll guess election rates for Democrats post LBJ are probably at least 75%

For many years the Democrats shit on blacks. I'll concede that those Dixiecrats became republicans. Post great society generally speaking The war on poverty has not been beneficial to blacks as urban decay and the practice of soft bigotry have kept blacks down as compared to whites


Why would they continue to vote for a party regardless of skin color with a track record like that. They voted for Obama in 2008 and their net worth has gone down more and their UE rate is about 14%

In regards to inflation adjusted dollars , 10-20 trillion has been spent in regards to the great society and compared to whites, blacks have been continued to be held down overall

[epo]

Respected Economists like Christina Romer predicted sub 6% if the stimulus was passed

Didn't she make that claim on her calculated needs of $1.8 trillion?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Didn't she make that claim on her calculated needs of $1.8 trillion?

I couldnt find anything based on what was needed. I did see a number of graphs, Im not sure if those were needed or actual amounts.

There are always 2 amounts not sure which one is more accurate of the stimulus. Some reports say 787 billion, others say 862

[spoon]

I don't know off hand but I'll guess election rates for Democrats post LBJ are probably at least 75%

For many years the Democrats shit on blacks. I'll concede that those Dixiecrats became republicans. Post great society generally speaking The war on poverty has not been beneficial to blacks as urban decay and the practice of soft bigotry have kept blacks down as compared to whites


Why would they continue to vote for a party regardless of skin color with a track record like that. They voted for Obama in 2008 and their net worth has gone down more and their UE rate is about 14%

In regards to inflation adjusted dollars , 10-20 trillion has been spent in regards to the great society and compared to whites, blacks have been continued to be held down overall

yes yes, caucasian net worth has gone up in that same economic demographic at the same time right? And the same for the UE as you call it too? It's a bad economic hole buddy, and it's going to take time to dig out and we simply disagree on how to get out. You continue to throw blame on the guy brought in to fix the situation and trying to stop the fall, and now you are trying hint at Obama since 08 trying to keep african americans down? that your bullshit points are just pulled out of an overall issue with UE and net worth of the poor and middle class overall?

shocking

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes yes, caucasian net worth has gone up in that same economic demographic at the same time right? And the same for the UE as you call it too? It's a bad economic hole buddy, and it's going to take time to dig out and we simply disagree on how to get out. You continue to throw blame on the guy brought in to fix the situation and trying to stop the fall, and now you are trying hint at Obama since 08 trying to keep african americans down? that your bullshit points are just pulled out of an overall issue with UE and net worth of the poor and middle class overall?

shocking

Did I say Whites net worth went up? Overall the average is a net worth down more than $4000 on average

Barack Obama asked for this opportunity in 2008 and he was elected to make things better. He overpromised and did not know what he was getting himself into. Many people took the bait as well. Some fell for the Messiah part. Some were sick of having 8 years of Bush in and didnt want another 3rd Bush term if McCain was elected. Some voted based on that there was going to be a 1st half black President.


I didnt say that Obama was trying to keep blacks down. Im saying that they have been affected the most negatively pre and post recession. Hispanics aint doing any better.


Obama as a candidate aimed for the stars but didnt deliver. From all the excitement on how his policies would bring in peace and prosperity to hey give me more time. Doesn't cut it. He needs to go.

[Melk]

There are rarely a politician who doesn't over-promise. Jimmy Carter attempted honesty and became aone-termer.

No candidate promises minor gains.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There are rarely a politician who doesn't over-promise. Jimmy Carter attempted honesty and became aone-termer.

No candidate promises minor gains.

Acknowledged. Mitt is saying that he will create 12 million jobs. If he's elected and 10.5 are created and the economy recovers and there is 4-5% GDP then that makes it more possible for a 2nd term.


Obama was elected in 2008 to fix the economy and have a recovery. I wont bore you with the numbers you already know those but an anemic recovery should not warrant him a 2nd term.

[spoon]

Did I say Whites net worth went up? Overall the average is a net worth down more than $4000 on average

Barack Obama asked for this opportunity in 2008 and he was elected to make things better. He overpromised and did not know what he was getting himself into. Many people took the bait as well. Some fell for the Messiah part. Some were sick of having 8 years of Bush in and didnt want another 3rd Bush term if McCain was elected. Some voted based on that there was going to be a 1st half black President.


I didnt say that Obama was trying to keep blacks down. Im saying that they have been affected the most negatively pre and post recession. Hispanics aint doing any better.


Obama as a candidate aimed for the stars but didnt deliver. From all the excitement on how his policies would bring in peace and prosperity to hey give me more time. Doesn't cut it. He needs to go.

You completely aimed your comments as if he was worse for african americans vs this being an overall economic hit for all races in the bottom to upper middle class rungs.

As for the rest, it's LADEN with bullshit bias and backhanded attacks. The mesiah mention, 1st half black president and your norm. I get he over promised and all parties, no candidates do this. He still did what he set out to do, or at least tried in many instances. You may disagree, but he put in place much of his policy, or at least a dumbed down version (no public option for example). Yet it isn't even instituted yet, and much won't be until this year or down the road. That's not touching on how much the GOP worked to stall/block EVERYTHING Obama tried to put through. I'm not saying it has been perfect, but I understand the full picture versus trying to pin shit on people for party reasons. Sure McCain in this situation would have been a touch more in line with the policies that got us here, but I wouldn't have simply blamed him for the holes dug by his buddy W.

I'd like to know the policy change or adjustment that would have had us back on top of the world in 3/4 years, much less even had us further than where we are right now? I co

[KnoxHarrington]

Acknowledged. Mitt is saying that he will create 12 million jobs. If he's elected and 10.5 are created and the economy recovers and there is 4-5% GDP then that makes it more possible for a 2nd term.


Obama was elected in 2008 to fix the economy and have a recovery. I wont bore you with the numbers you already know those but an anemic recovery should not warrant him a 2nd term.

So if Romney doesn't deliver on his promises, re-elect him anyway, but since Obama hasn't, he needs to go.

:wallbash:

[brettmojo]

So if Romney doesn't deliver on his promises, re-elect him anyway, but since Obama hasn't, he needs to go.

:wallbash:
NOW you're thinking like a Republican.

[cougarjake13]

anemia sucks

[brettmojo]

anemia sucks

Romnesia is even worse.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You completely aimed your comments as if he was worse for african americans vs this being an overall economic hit for all races in the bottom to upper middle class rungs.

As for the rest, it's LADEN with bullshit bias and backhanded attacks. The mesiah mention, 1st half black president and your norm. I get he over promised and all parties, no candidates do this. He still did what he set out to do, or at least tried in many instances. You may disagree, but he put in place much of his policy, or at least a dumbed down version (no public option for example). Yet it isn't even instituted yet, and much won't be until this year or down the road. That's not touching on how much the GOP worked to stall/block EVERYTHING Obama tried to put through. I'm not saying it has been perfect, but I understand the full picture versus trying to pin shit on people for party reasons. Sure McCain in this situation would have been a touch more in line with the policies that got us here, but I wouldn't have simply blamed him for the holes dug by his buddy W.

I'd like to know the policy change or adjustment that would have had us back on top of the world in 3/4 years, much less even had us further than where we are right now? I co

And I stand by that. Blacks as a whole are not as wealthy , Im saying that of course due to Keynesian principles they have become poorer

There wasnt a voting block that bought into the Messiah and Black Jesus phenom? I'm not saying that it was the only point of him being elected however some, I would say especially college aged voters , cast their ballot for that fresh faced wide eyed rockstar.

For one thing maybe try an approach which isnt Keynesian. That would be a start.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Romnesia is even worse.

Does Obamacare cover that?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So if Romney doesn't deliver on his promises, re-elect him anyway, but since Obama hasn't, he needs to go.

:wallbash:

Romney is supposed to be this turnaround expert. If he cant turn it around then no, dont reelect him

[brettmojo]

Does Obamacare cover that?

Why would it? It's a gift from god.

[spoon]

And I stand by that. Blacks as a whole are not as wealthy , Im saying that of course due to Keynesian principles they have become poorer...



OF COURSE you are

http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_Brock/parrott.jpg

[spoon]

Romney is supposed to be this turnaround expert. If he cant turn it around then no, dont reelect him

turnaround expert!

ha!

he would send our gov over to China or India if possible

outsource our breathing? I'm sure the turnaround expert can find a way to do it!

it's not some amazing business strategy Mitt and other ceo's of late run with...it's called cheap labor and fuck your own people

turnaround my ass

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Like Outsourcing isn't something Obama objects to. The Chinese and Mexicans are saying Xie Xie and Gracias to Obama in regards to the GM bailout. Chrysler is opening up shop in China

His homeboy Immelt the CEO of GE and chair of his jobs council practices that too
Notice Big Eddie never called out his bosses when they were majority owners of MSNBC?
He loves that huge payday



Wanna talk parroting?

Squawk , fair share, end Medicare as we know it, you can keep your plan, Romneysia, comprehensive, we need to invest

[KnoxHarrington]

Interesting article about how economists believe that the "12 million jobs" Romney is "promising" are coming anyway, even if Obama is re-elected:

"The 12 million jobs has been my forecast for quite some time," says Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics.

Zandi is in the economic forecasting business, and he expects the economy to add an average of 3 million jobs a year over the next four years, which would total 12 million jobs.

Zandi adds that he doesn't know who will win the presidency. And for the purposes of this projection, it doesn't much matter.

"Cold hard facts. Politics completely aside. I'm just doing the numbers," says Zandi. "I feel confident that we're going to create 12 million jobs over the next four years and we're going to feel a lot better about this economy, regardless of who is president."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/10/26/163719000/economists-romneys-12-million-jobs-target-realistic-even-if-he-loses

Unless Romney comes in and starts throwing in all the "austerity" shit that's kept Europe's economy in the shitter.

[brettmojo]

Like Outsourcing isn't something Obama objects to. The Chinese and Mexicans are saying Xie Xie and Gracias to Obama in regards to the GM bailout. Chrysler is opening up shop in China

To sell cars... IN CHINA (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/26/14721560-why-romneys-bogus-jeep-claims-matter?lite).

[spoon]

Like Outsourcing isn't something Obama objects to. The Chinese and Mexicans are saying Xie Xie and Gracias to Obama in regards to the GM bailout. Chrysler is opening up shop in China

His homeboy Immelt the CEO of GE and chair of his jobs council practices that too
Notice Big Eddie never called out his bosses when they were majority owners of MSNBC?
He loves that huge payday



Wanna talk parroting?

Squawk , fair share, end Medicare as we know it, you can keep your plan, Romneysia, comprehensive, we need to invest

yes less squawk on all those topics PLEASE, even though they are yet to be brought up for months here...good point

outside an obvious romnesia joke that I didn't make

and again, we had this discussion on Immelt not being on the Obama campaign trail, he was a top executive of one of the few US run businesses of that stature left. Obama chose someone NOT in his camp in a position of power on WHY this was happening and how to stop it overall. you act as if Obama appointing him isn't bc of these reasons and in fact bc he LIKES outsourcing? Mitt is directly tied to it while with Obama you look for ties to others that aren't even one with his policy overall. who the fuck is big eddie!? I get all your bullshit insults and snide comments mixed up sorry. Hansoesque translator needed!

[spoon]

To sell cars... IN CHINA (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/26/14721560-why-romneys-bogus-jeep-claims-matter?lite).

stop with the fucking facts!

this is a conversation with WF for fuck's sake man!

[spoon]

To sell cars... IN CHINA (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/26/14721560-why-romneys-bogus-jeep-claims-matter?lite).

isn't this part telling...
Romney specifically urged business leaders to give their employees voting instructions -- many took Romney's suggestion seriously -- and as a consequence, workers in a growing number of businesses are being told their jobs may be dependent on the outcome of the election.

Romney's comments in Defiance are part of the same kind of fear-based argument: vote the right way or you'll be unemployed. Your livelihood is at stake, so support the candidate who opposed President Obama's successful rescue of the auto industry and got rich laying off American workers.

For additional context, it's worth noting that the Detroit News reports today that Chrysler is adding an additional 1,100 new jobs. Why? To build more Jeeps right here in the United States.

[brettmojo]

isn't this part telling...

Republicans fear mongering? Noooooooooo. Never.

[spoon]

Republicans fear mongering? Noooooooooo. Never.

Greg Sargent explained well why this matters: "Romney may very well be the next president. That's a position of some responsibility. Yet he and his campaign rushed to tell voters a story designed to stoke their fears for their livelihoods without bothering to vet it for basic accuracy. This is not a small thing. It reveals the depth of Romney's blithe lack of concern for the truth -- and the subservience of it to his own political ambitions."

must be president

yet the south park guys would surely have a field day with it!

Orgazmo, Book of Mormon, countless eps of South Park...they LOVE his religion and they certainly should. It's one of a few that make other religions look less silly...which is hard.

[brettmojo]

must be president

yet the south park guys would surely have a field day with it!

Orgazmo, Book of Mormon, countless eps of South Park...they LOVE his religion and they certainly should. It's one of a few that make other religions look less silly...which is hard.

I was talking about this with a bunch of people at work last week. The guy has plenty of money, why does he want to be president? It's definitely the mormon thing. He wants to be the 1st mormon president. He wants to bring legitimacy to the religion and being president will do that.

That being his motivation is reason enough not to elect him president. The countless other reasons aside... That's his goal. Not to help the country, not to further the Republican agenda, just to be the 1st mormon president. He obviously doesn't give a shit about the other Republicans with what he's said during the debates and in recent campaigning. At the same time the Republicans don't give a shit about him, they just want Obama out and with the short attention span that plagues this country and the general ignorance of the voting public they've made it way too close for comfort.

The fact that this country has already forgotten in four years that this is pretty much the same group that ran us into the ditch in the first place is unforgivable.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes outsourcer in chief. Those are words per

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/08/12/outsourcer-in-chief-obama-of-general-motors/


Chrysler is back in the private sector at a loss to 1 billion to taxpayers.



Big Eddy is Ed Schultz


Immelt may not be in the campaign but he was in Obamas jobs council


Fuck facts though.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I was talking about this with a bunch of people at work last week. The guy has plenty of money, why does he want to be president? It's definitely the mormon thing. He wants to be the 1st mormon president. He wants to bring legitimacy to the religion and being president will do that.

That being his motivation is reason enough not to elect him president. The countless other reasons aside... That's his goal. Not to help the country, not to further the Republican agenda, just to be the 1st mormon president. He obviously doesn't give a shit about the other Republicans with what he's said during the debates and in recent campaigning. At the same time the Republicans don't give a shit about him, they just want Obama out and with the short attention span that plagues this country and the general ignorance of the voting public they've made it way too close for comfort.

The fact that this country has already forgotten in four years that this is pretty much the same group that ran us into the ditch in the first place is unforgivable.


Brett Mojo resident psychologist of Rf.net


He got into the mind of Mitt.



Amazing

[spoon]

saying they forgot gives too much credit in my mind unfortunately. most never truly had a clue and believe whatever outlet they watch or the prevailing attitude of their regional politics

on the Mitt wanting this just for religious reasons, I'd argue against that truthfully. it may be something in his end game, but to me he's all about pure power and it lines up with all his interests since day one. he wants less institutional control overall, yet lives by it tied to religion in almost all his daily living (diet, donations and so much more). he's a walking contradiction

[spoon]

Yes outsourcer in chief. Those are words per

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/08/12/outsourcer-in-chief-obama-of-general-motors/


Chrysler is back in the private sector at a loss to 1 billion to taxpayers.



Big Eddy is Ed Schultz


Immelt may not be in the campaign but he was in Obamas jobs council


Fuck facts though.

what fact are we fucking here WF? nobody debated Immelt's positions in Obama's council, just his positions on, well, politics and jobs

and outsourcer in chief, cute bullshit tag that only you used

nice point once more

[spoon]

Brett Mojo resident psychologist of Rf.net


He got into the mind of Mitt.



Amazing

I'd say it's his interesting take, but hey, why converse when you can just go GOP tourettes. What's your take versus just blabbing on and on about nothing as per the norm. Why is that so tough for you?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those aren't my words. Those are Forbes .


No matter how much Obama touts how he rode in and saved the auto industry it had become a giant failure and could be headed towards another bankruptcy



Again. Notice most of the Obama Biden signs are on foreign cars

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'd say it's his interesting take, but hey, why converse when you can just go GOP tourettes. What's your take versus just blabbing on and on about nothing as per the norm. Why is that so tough for you?



So what? It's not like Romney is the 1st rich person ever to run for president. Ever hear of Kennedy and FDR?


Romney has not been pushing that he's Super Mormon


Besides don't think Barack is going to sit on a beach in Hawaii in 2013 or 2017. He will become another Clinton and amasse super wealth thru speaking fees etc.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'd say it's his interesting take, but hey, why converse when you can just go GOP tourettes. What's your take versus just blabbing on and on about nothing as per the norm. Why is that so tough for you?



Squawk you keep saying GOP Tourette's . Did you not see that I'm a Gary Johnson voter?


Look I'm not in the tank for Romney but you sound like these McCain voters in 2008 who were afraid of a black Kenyan Muslim atheist communist



Mitt isn't my choice but he's not some far right boogeyman

[spoon]

Those aren't my words. Those are Forbes .


No matter how much Obama touts how he rode in and saved the auto industry it had become a giant failure and could be headed towards another bankruptcy



Again. Notice most of the Obama Biden signs are on foreign cars

No shit it was Forbes...some of us can read where a story is published/reported but like I constantly say, you're a fucking parrot. Do you try to be this stupid?

As for the signs on foreign cars thing, cute/stupid as usual. Notice most of the Romney/Ryan signs are in China, the inside cover of any rand novels and on golden plates.

This might be the only sentence WF can translate.

[brettmojo]

Squawk you keep saying GOP Tourette's . Did you not see that I'm a Gary Johnson voter?


Look I'm not in the tank for Romney but you sound like these McCain voters in 2008 who were afraid of a black Kenyan Muslim atheist communist



Mitt isn't my choice but he's not some far right boogeyman

Hold that thought... Because if your house gets blown away by Sandy over the next few days... If Mitt was already president you'd probably be on your own (http://www.nationalmemo.com/reminder-mitt-romney-called-federal-disaster-relief-immoral/).

But don't worry. Maybe Mitt will take those tax deductions that he decided he wouldn't take last year and he'll hire the work crew to clear the debris of your home and build you a new one... He is a "job creator" after all.

[spoon]

So what? It's not like Romney is the 1st rich person ever to run for president. Ever hear of Kennedy and FDR?


Romney has not been pushing that he's Super Mormon


Besides don't think Barack is going to sit on a beach in Hawaii in 2013 or 2017. He will become another Clinton and amasse super wealth thru speaking fees etc.

Again, do you even read my posts?! I never hinted that others DON'T run for that reason, I just took a different look at why he ran and actually disagreed with Brett. Your second line on Romney not pushing his religion, I basically said myself (just not in such idiotic form).

And why wouldn't an ex prez take to the speaking circuit?! Did I EVER say he wouldn't? Was this ever a point in this conversation? How does it even tie in AT ALL?!

You truly can't focus.

[spoon]

Squawk you keep saying GOP Tourette's . Did you not see that I'm a Gary Johnson voter?


Look I'm not in the tank for Romney but you sound like these McCain voters in 2008 who were afraid of a black Kenyan Muslim atheist communist



Mitt isn't my choice but he's not some far right boogeyman

Squawk/GOP Tourettes? You do realize that isn't parroting bc I FUCKING MADE IT UP TO LABEL YOU! It's repetition sure, but not even close to being the point you try to counter with, as once again you can't follow along in any way.

And finally, your last few points are so off tangent it's comical. Where did they come from and what sense do they make here on any topic, even the MULTITUDE you were all over the place with? Oh yah, it's just more diversion/lack of focus bullshit. It's like your a robotic twitter feed based on GOP robotic tics and tag lines...WF (whacky fuck/whacky feed?). Nice backhanded insult on Obama once again too, but let's not act like you aren't in line mainly with the GOP policy as you feign to be all Gary (ex GOPer) Johnson when it fits.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hold that thought... Because if your house gets blown away by Sandy over the next few days... If Mitt was already president you'd probably be on your own (http://www.nationalmemo.com/reminder-mitt-romney-called-federal-disaster-relief-immoral/).

But don't worry. Maybe Mitt will take those tax deductions that he decided he wouldn't take last year and he'll hire the work crew to clear the debris of your home and build you a new one... He is a "job creator" after all.

That's not going to happen .


I own a condo in a hi rise building. Water won't reach my floor


That won't happen in a Romney administration



Under Johnson states can keep more of their money so they would have the funds for cleanup recovery and FEMA wouldn't be necessary

[spoon]

That's not going to happen .


I own a condo in a hi rise building. Water won't reach my floor


That won't happen in a Romney administration



Under Johnson states can keep more of their money so they would have the funds for cleanup recovery and FEMA wouldn't be necessary

so let me get this straight, national government sucks, but the states are ON IT!

yet every state budget and finances overall are a mess

I'm sure that money would be readily available, RIGHT!
:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No shit it was Forbes...some of us can read where a story is published/reported but like I constantly say, you're a fucking parrot. Do you try to be this stupid?

As for the signs on foreign cars thing, cute/stupid as usual. Notice most of the Romney/Ryan signs are in China, the inside cover of any rand novels and on golden plates.

This might be the only sentence WF can translate.


How do you say Romney Ryan in Mandarin


Not cute or snarky just based on Observation. If GM was such a great success why aren't Obama Biden stickers on them?


Maybe it's because the Japanese south Koreans and Germans make superior products

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so let me get this straight, national government sucks, but the states are ON IT!

yet every state budget and finances overall are a mess

I'm sure that money would be readily available, RIGHT!
:lol:


Yes National government does suck


How about going back to Federalism

[spoon]

How do you say Romney Ryan in Mandarin


Not cute or snarky just based on Observation. If GM was such a great success why aren't Obama Biden stickers on them?


Maybe it's because the Japanese south Koreans and Germans make superior products

you really believe the bullshit you type

that's cute

bet you can't wait for santa too!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you really believe the bullshit you type

that's cute

bet you can't wait for santa too!

Like believing in Hope and Change

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you really believe the bullshit you type

that's cute

bet you can't wait for santa too!

Give me a Honda Kia or BMW any day over a Chevy

[brettmojo]

That's not going to happen .


I own a condo in a hi rise building. Water won't reach my floor


That won't happen in a Romney administration



Under Johnson states can keep more of their money so they would have the funds for cleanup recovery and FEMA wouldn't be necessary

So outsourcing disaster relief to the states... And you say you're not a Romney guy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So outsourcing disaster relief to the states... And you say you're not a Romney guy.



Did you read what I said?


Having the states keep more of their money. Do you want your money going to sewers in Alabama

[brettmojo]

Give me a Honda Kia or BMW any day over a Chevy

Why use American when someone in another country can do it better and cheaper... At least you're consistent.

[brettmojo]

Did you read what I said?


Having the states keep more of their money. Do you want your money going to sewers in Alabama

Do I want my tax money going to build the infrastructure of the country I live? Hmmm... Nah. That doesn't make any sense does it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Do I want my tax money going to build the infrastructure of the country I live? Hmmm... Nah. That doesn't make any sense does it.



If you want a national democracy, lobby your local congressman to get the ball rolling

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why use American when someone in another country can do it better and cheaper... At least you're consistent.



My Acura was made by American workers in Ohio

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Squawk/GOP Tourettes? You do realize that isn't parroting bc I FUCKING MADE IT UP TO LABEL YOU! It's repetition sure, but not even close to being the point you try to counter with, as once again you can't follow along in any way.

And finally, your last few points are so off tangent it's comical. Where did they come from and what sense do they make here on any topic, even the MULTITUDE you were all over the place with? Oh yah, it's just more diversion/lack of focus bullshit. It's like your a robotic twitter feed based on GOP robotic tics and tag lines...WF (whacky fuck/whacky feed?). Nice backhanded insult on Obama once again too, but let's not act like you aren't in line mainly with the GOP policy as you feign to be all Gary (ex GOPer) Johnson when it fits.


I want small government


That means across the board


Im not in line with mainstream GOP issues.


They want bigger government as long as it suits their needs

[brettmojo]

Did you read what I said?

By the way... THAT ^^^.... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Squawk/GOP Tourettes? You do realize that isn't parroting bc I FUCKING MADE IT UP TO LABEL YOU! It's repetition sure, but not even close to being the point you try to counter with, as once again you can't follow along in any way.

And finally, your last few points are so off tangent it's comical. Where did they come from and what sense do they make here on any topic, even the MULTITUDE you were all over the place with? Oh yah, it's just more diversion/lack of focus bullshit. It's like your a robotic twitter feed based on GOP robotic tics and tag lines...WF (whacky fuck/whacky feed?). Nice backhanded insult on Obama once again too, but let's not act like you aren't in line mainly with the GOP policy as you feign to be all Gary (ex GOPer) Johnson when it fits.

you want to Spoon with POTUS? Or do you hate forks

What back handed insult? There were people who thought Barack was some scary rabid lefty

I dont look to him as that. He's a corporatist and a war monger who happens to believe in a Social democracy. In almost 4 years he hasnt seized guns or private property like some thought.



Look Romney is running for president because he wants what every other person before him had. Power. Its a bit of an ego thing. Maybe he wants to avenge for his fathers failure to ge the nod in '68. Thats a hypothesis.


I dont know how you can latch onto this whole Mormon conspiracy. He doesnt go out and say oh by the way I might be the 1st mormon president on a consistent basis.


Whatever wacky shit Murdoch and Akin say, Abortion is not going anywhere. Look at born again Dubya, Probably one of the most social conservative presidents we ever had and Roe wasnt overturned. Who knows what type of judge he will nominate if Ginsburg retires or keels over. Everyone thought Roberts was this ultra right wing lunatic until he became the darling of Obama supporters in late June.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Again, do you even read my posts?! I never hinted that others DON'T run for that reason, I just took a different look at why he ran and actually disagreed with Brett. Your second line on Romney not pushing his religion, I basically said myself (just not in such idiotic form).

And why wouldn't an ex prez take to the speaking circuit?! Did I EVER say he wouldn't? Was this ever a point in this conversation? How does it even tie in AT ALL?!

You truly can't focus.

Didnt Reagan take heat for giving a speech in Japan after his term was over? I think it was a couple of million back in 1989

I like how now all of a sudden its accepted. Im not begrudging an ex president to do that at all.


Say what you want about Bush 41 and 43, They have remained out of the spotlight for the most part. Once in a while Carter will pop up and bash Jews but to his credit he was influential for Habitat for Humanity

[Kevin]

Didnt Reagan take heat for giving a speech in Japan after his term was over? I think it was a couple of million back in 1989

I like how now all of a sudden its accepted. Im not begrudging an ex president to do that at all.


Say what you want about Bush 41 and 43, They have remained out of the spotlight for the most part. Once in a while Carter will pop up and bash Jews but to his credit he was influential for Habitat for Humanity

They remained out of the spotlight because they were both terrible Presidents

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They remained out of the spotlight because 43 and Carter were terrible Presidents

Fixed

[Kevin]

Fixed

So 41 wasn't?

And I have stated before.

I do not hate Bush.

Chaney did 95% of what went wrong with this country.

I always said Bush seems like a decent guy and his work with the relief and stuff enforces it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So 41 wasn't?

And I have stated before.

I do not hate Bush.

Chaney did 95% of what went wrong with this country.

I always said Bush seems like a decent guy and his work with the relief and stuff enforces it.

He wasnt the worst we had. He had his flaws but he wasn't like the son

[spoon]

Like believing in Hope and Change

oh, you bursted my bubble catch phrase kid!

[spoon]

By the way... THAT ^^^.... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

x 2...more like 2 million

[WRESTLINGFAN]

oh, you bursted my bubble catch phrase kid!

Catch Phrase was a theme in 2008 by some cut rate US Senator

[WRESTLINGFAN]

x 2...more like 2 million

Using Obama estimates it should be more like 2 Trillion.

No CBO score needed

[spoon]

you want to Spoon with POTUS? Or do you hate forks

What back handed insult? There were people who thought Barack was some scary rabid lefty

I dont look to him as that. He's a corporatist and a war monger who happens to believe in a Social democracy. In almost 4 years he hasnt seized guns or private property like some thought.



Look Romney is running for president because he wants what every other person before him had. Power. Its a bit of an ego thing. Maybe he wants to avenge for his fathers failure to ge the nod in '68. Thats a hypothesis.


I dont know how you can latch onto this whole Mormon conspiracy. He doesnt go out and say oh by the way I might be the 1st mormon president on a consistent basis.


Whatever wacky shit Murdoch and Akin say, Abortion is not going anywhere. Look at born again Dubya, Probably one of the most social conservative presidents we ever had and Roe wasnt overturned. Who knows what type of judge he will nominate if Ginsburg retires or keels over. Everyone thought Roberts was this ultra right wing lunatic until he became the darling of Obama supporters in late June.

Obama a war monger? That's hilarious to say the least. Next, I didn't agree with Bmojo on the religion tie in, but why pay attention? But I guess I latched on to this mormon conspiracy that one guy put out there as his feeling alone here. The conspiracy is FLYING!

Where did the abortion thing come from WF? FOCUS!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama a war monger? That's hilarious to say the least. Next, I didn't agree with Bmojo on the religion tie in, but why pay attention? But I guess I latched on to this mormon conspiracy that one guy put out there as his feeling alone here. The conspiracy is FLYING!

Where did the abortion thing come from WF? FOCUS!

Yes, Libya continuing the shitstorm in Afghanistan and many proxy wars going on.


I threw the Abortion thing in there because of the mass hysteria of Roe being shitcanned

[spoon]

Didnt Reagan take heat for giving a speech in Japan after his term was over? I think it was a couple of million back in 1989

I like how now all of a sudden its accepted. Im not begrudging an ex president to do that at all.


Say what you want about Bush 41 and 43, They have remained out of the spotlight for the most part. Once in a while Carter will pop up and bash Jews but to his credit he was influential for Habitat for Humanity

Here we go again!

When did ANYONE bring up the speaking of ex presidents? Much less something I have no memory of, much less anger about, that happened in fucking 1989!

And acting like just the dems are in the spotlight after being the prez is fucking ridiculous! Even the people who fail to win, even the fucking VPs never shut the fuck up. You sound foolish every time you make a random bullshit point off topic. Try a new thing like being less biased and staying ON TOPIC!

[spoon]

So 41 wasn't?

And I have stated before.

I do not hate Bush.

Chaney did 95% of what went wrong with this country.

I always said Bush seems like a decent guy and his work with the relief and stuff enforces it.

that's not accurate to me

W allowed for it all to happen and has been the ass cog in to many shit wheels to give him any fucking passes

he simply thinks this makes up for the hell he caused so many, and is makeup for daddy getting him into yale

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Here we go again!

When did ANYONE bring up the speaking of ex presidents? Much less something I have no memory of, much less anger about, that happened in fucking 1989!

And acting like just the dems are in the spotlight after being the prez is fucking ridiculous! Even the people who fail to win, even the fucking VPs never shut the fuck up. You sound foolish every time you make a random bullshit point off topic. Try a new thing like being less biased and staying ON TOPIC!

Except for Gore and Cheney who's always out there trying to put their face in front of the Camera?

When was the last time you heard from Quayle in the media?

[spoon]

Catch Phrase was a theme in 2008 by some cut rate US Senator

You bet it was, as slogans are part of campaigns and you can't have a discussion here without leaning on your crutches.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You bet it was, as slogans are part of campaigns and you can't have a discussion here without leaning on your crutches.

Like that slogan worked


FORWARD!!!!!

:lol:

[spoon]

Yes, Libya continuing the shitstorm in Afghanistan and many proxy wars going on.


I threw the Abortion thing in there because of the mass hysteria of Roe being shitcanned

the war mongering thing is still stupid on all accounts...and Libya is one of your examples..."proxy wars"? Try harder fool.

And you constantly THROW shit in there as bad crutch points as I'll now call them. Both parties use the abortion issue for their voting push...if not more on the GOP side saying they need people to back them to GET RID OF IT. The dems simply play the other side of that coin and both know it's in a logjam for now. Yet good point on the no point out of left field.

[Kevin]

that's not accurate to me

W allowed for it all to happen and has been the ass cog in to many shit wheels to give him any fucking passes

he simply thinks this makes up for the hell he caused so many, and is makeup for daddy getting him into yale

Yea I see your point on it.

He gets too much of the blame though.

But you are the Prez, its on you whatever happens.

[spoon]

Except for Gore and Cheney who's always out there trying to put their face in front of the Camera?

When was the last time you heard from Quayle in the media?

W speaks all over the place, and Palin never shuts the fuck up.

McCain doesn't talk as much of late, but I think it's bc he's barely breathing and when he does it's to cry the GOP convinced him to pick Palin. Cheney is on every fucking talk show I listen to on am radio, and he's in the shadows usually bc that's where he's most comfortable. Good thing too, we don't need any more DUIs for the guy right?! See, we can all play this game!

[spoon]

Like that slogan worked


FORWARD!!!!!

:lol:

great point crutchfan

:wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the war mongering thing is still stupid on all accounts...and Libya is one of your examples..."proxy wars"? Try harder fool.

And you constantly THROW shit in there as bad crutch points as I'll now call them. Both parties use the abortion issue for their voting push...if not more on the GOP side saying they need people to back them to GET RID OF IT. The dems simply play the other side of that coin and both know it's in a logjam for now. Yet good point on the no point out of left field.

Yes Libya the Illegal entry of the US without an authorization from Congress and violating the War Powers act.

Why is it that since 2009 Wars are trendy and torture is ok?

Now it hasnt been the debacle AfPak and Iraq is however. 4 men would probably be alive today. Who knows. Stevens might have contributed to his own death by funneling weapons to the rebels that Obama was coddling. More fallout is emerging.

Proxy wars like Syria and Uganda. Good enough ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

W speaks all over the place, and Palin never shuts the fuck up.

McCain doesn't talk as much of late, but I think it's bc he's barely breathing and when he does it's to cry the GOP convinced him to pick Palin. Cheney is on every fucking talk show I listen to on am radio, and he's in the shadows usually bc that's where he's most comfortable. Good thing too, we don't need any more DUIs for the guy right?! See, we can all play this game!

Palin is a half term governor who lost in 2008 when she was McCains running mate Dubya is all over the media? He's appearing with Romney like Bill is pretending to be Obamas pal? What campaign are you watching?

I already acknowledged about Cheney in my previous comments.

Palin holds no weight.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

McCain is still a sitting US Senator of course he's going to be somewhat in the spotlight

[spoon]

Yes Libya the Illegal entry of the US without an authorization from Congress and violating the War Powers act.

Why is it that since 2009 Wars are trendy and torture is ok?

Now it hasnt been the debacle AfPak and Iraq is however. 4 men would probably be alive today. Who knows. Stevens might have contributed to his own death by funneling weapons to the rebels that Obama was coddling. More fallout is emerging.

Proxy wars like Syria and Uganda. Good enough ?

no it's not bc it's all complete bullshit

wars are trendy since 09? 4 men would probably be alive if what?

Syria and Uganda are Obama's proxy wars!?

you are hilarious AND sad

[spoon]

Palin is a half term governor who lost in 2008 when she was McCains running mate Dubya is all over the media? He's appearing with Romney like Bill is pretending to be Obamas pal? What campaign are you watching?

I already acknowledged about Cheney in my previous comments.

Palin holds no weight.

Palin hold PLENTY of weight, as she's an example and a crazy fucking one at that no matter how much you don't like it. And W all over the media, or on the speaking circuit? Which did I say? Hmmm, probably the one WF ignored to make another bs point. But why think about the original tangential point you made on speaking, and let's veer off further to the media and something new in 3, 2, 1...GO!

[spoon]

McCain is still a sitting US Senator of course he's going to be somewhat in the spotlight

so they all do exactly what you said nobody does, yet they don't count...got it.

so reagan isn't speaking, you got me!

[Kevin]

Say what you want about WF.

Unlike dude, he actually tries to make points (all be it wrong)

And is entertaining most of the time.

Dude just has nothing but 5 year old trolling posts.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no it's not bc it's all complete bullshit

wars are trendy since 09? 4 men would probably be alive if what?

Syria and Uganda are Obama's proxy wars!?

you are hilarious AND sad

Its not BS

Yes, Its the hip dude as President. Where are all the anti war people in the street protesting Afghanistan, Drone strikes, protesting torture etc.

If the US didnt get involved in Libya and Arming Al Qaeda then Stevens and the other 3 would probably be alive.

Like I said. Libya and the Benghazi wont be the deciding factor but as more is revealed it could have some impact. We will see 11/6

Yes they are. Mother Jones, Hardly some right wing blog reported on that a couple of months ago.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Palin hold PLENTY of weight, as she's an example and a crazy fucking one at that no matter how much you don't like it. And W all over the media, or on the speaking circuit? Which did I say? Hmmm, probably the one WF ignored to make another bs point. But why think about the original tangential point you made on speaking, and let's veer off further to the media and something new in 3, 2, 1...GO!

Palin is not to be taken seriously.

When was the last time you saw W even in a 30 second news segment?

I think the last time he was in the news, they asked him who he was voting for as the elevators door closed he said he was for Mitt. That was way before the convention. Maybe May or June

Clinton is everywhere.

[Dude!]

When was the last time you saw W even in a 30 second news segment?

i saw him not too long ago
in Africa, helping AIDS victims

they seemed to really appreciate him

[spoon]

i saw him not too long ago
in Africa, helping AIDS victims

they seemed to really appreciate him


Help them before they fucking get AIDS...you know, the opposite of what he did.

Bibles versus condoms and actual preventative measures to stop AIDS W style!

[Kevin]

Help them before they fucking get AIDS...you know, the opposite of what he did.

Bibles versus condoms and actual preventative measures to stop AIDS W style!

Aids is Gods plan and blessing!

[spoon]

Palin is not to be taken seriously.


tell that to the GOP who not only selected her as the VP candidate, the flag she was under as gov and now parading around constantly on tv (mostly fox of course), but nonetheless CONSTANTLY in the news for stupid shit versus charity like others.

oh yah, W and Palin sure were in the press when it was time to promote their memoirs and films no?

I guess that just doesn't count either is this STUPID side argument WF started with tangential points once more. Bottom line, I really do NOT care outside of you being wrong again...even with your side points.

[spoon]

Aids is Gods plan and blessing!

sad but actually on target for some in that party

[WRESTLINGFAN]

tell that to the GOP who not only selected her as the VP candidate, the flag she was under as gov and now parading around constantly on tv (mostly fox of course), but nonetheless CONSTANTLY in the news for stupid shit versus charity like others.

oh yah, W and Palin sure were in the press when it was time to promote their memoirs and films no?

I guess that just doesn't count either is this STUPID side argument WF started with tangential points once more. Bottom line, I really do NOT care outside of you being wrong again...even with your side points.

Dubya made an appearance on Oprah and a few other appearances , I didn't say he disappeared however he's not showing up all the time Clinton is

how many times must I agree with you on Palin being in the media however as I said she lost in 2008.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of ex VPs I heard current is up for sale.

Anyone know the latest in the feud btwn Olby and Gore?

[Kevin]

Speaking of ex VPs I heard current is up for sale.

Anyone know the latest in the feud btwn Olby and Gore?

Meh, I do not think its gunna happen since it didn't before the election.

Biden is fine being muzzled in the backround.

[spoon]

Dubya made an appearance on Oprah and a few other appearances , I didn't say he disappeared however he's not showing up all the time Clinton is

how many times must I agree with you on Palin being in the media however as I said she lost in 2008.

you didn't once until now on this stupid spiraling point

first you said she doesn't count, then holds no weight and finally she's not to be taken seriously

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another awful one


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/h5fH3np1jsw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[brettmojo]

Another awful one


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This one takes the cake...

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[Snoogans]

anyone gonna watch gary johnson and jill stein debate tonight?

[cougarjake13]

anyone gonna watch gary johnson and jill stein debate tonight?



where at ?

[Snoogans]

it got moved to monday cause the storm

[Dude!]

how can they debate
with people dying and
drowning everywhere...

heartless third parties

[Kevin]

how can they debate
with people dying and
drowning everywhere...

heartless third parties

Read above, 5 year old gimmick goon.

[KnoxHarrington]

So with New York being slammed by a hurricane, what's Donald Trump doing to help out?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I'm not hearing much from Obama or his administration about my $5M offer to charity or to which charity the money will go.</p>&mdash; Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/262954327822446593" data-datetime="2012-10-29T16:29:31+00:00">October 29, 2012</a></blockquote>
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He's probably busy, you piece of shit.

[spoon]

Ha, he doesn't even own his actually twitter name either! Love that!

[Kevin]

Ha, he doesn't even own his actually twitter name either! Love that!

He is like Dude!

If Dude! had a father that gave him everything he has.

[Jujubees2]

So with New York being slammed by a hurricane, what's Donald Trump doing to help out?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I'm not hearing much from Obama or his administration about my $5M offer to charity or to which charity the money will go.</p>&mdash; Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/262954327822446593" data-datetime="2012-10-29T16:29:31+00:00">October 29, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's probably busy, you piece of shit.

Colbert had a great response to Trump

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[A.J.]

So they're gonna go vote for the party that thinks a rape baby is a present from Jesus?

Jesus was a rape baby.

[disneyspy]

Jesus was a rape baby.

you know she liked it cuz she kept yelling "OH GOD,OH GOD. OH MY GAAAAAWD!!"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

All those offspring from Mohammed were child rape babies.

[brettmojo]

you know she liked it cuz she kept yelling "OH GOD,OH GOD. OH MY GAAAAAWD!!"

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPdtUI4_xsNkf09iPi1wtejMXkBcOd8 0BjCeAikhc0A43BTPviodd3ftYx

[Chigworthy]

POTUS? More like SCROTUS

[spoon]

this fits here I assume due to the general election tag

Monopoly or big government? (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/billionaire-spends-30-million-stop-165621433.html)

to me, it seems quite silly to spend 30 million to stop a bridge UNLESS it ties into YOUR business. the tax point is his spin, even if it cost some to the public...sounds like it's needed, breaks a huge monopoly over the crossing area, and something we surely need over the hudson to add to the gw, lincoln and holland

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bloomberg endorses Obama

Who know's maybe Obama will want to emulate him and run for a 3rd term if he wins

[epo]

Bloomberg endorses Obama

Who know's maybe Obama will want to emulate him and run for a 3rd term if he wins

I see you are on Newt Gingrich's mailing list...

[spoon]

Bloomberg endorses Obama

Who know's maybe Obama will want to emulate him and run for a 3rd term if he wins

and there goes the parrot spin gop tourettes!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see you are on Newt Gingrich's mailing list...

As El Bloombito would say


Wrong O

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and there goes the parrot spin gop tourettes!

SquawkO !!!! SpoonO is saying GOP tourettes again

[cougarjake13]

but a bridge would bring jobs back to merica

[spoon]

SquawkO !!!! SpoonO is saying GOP tourettes again

you still don't even get what either means huh?

you can't mimic your fucking self, as I made up the damn term JUST TO DESCRIBE YOU!

but hey, flip, spin, hack away

it's all you have, as you were caught AGAIN

[spoon]

but a bridge would bring jobs back to merica

especially when the tolls on the current bridge go to one guy, and Canada agreed to finance the whole fucking thing and purchase land in Michigan to do it too.

squawk! oh wait, that's an actual informative post and discussion on the topic without underpinnings of hate toward one party and or attacks on someone in the party

your turn asshat

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you still don't even get what either means huh?

you can't mimic your fucking self, as I made up the damn term JUST TO DESCRIBE YOU!

but hey, flip, spin, hack away

it's all you have, as you were caught AGAIN



I'm mocking you because you keep repeating the same shit


Or as El Bloombito would say El shitto

[spoon]

I'm mocking you because you keep repeating the same shit


Or as El Bloombito would say El shitto

Oh I get your bad, off the point mocking, but how do you NOT realize I only do it when YOU are actually doing what I speak of!? So calling out my repetition/catch phrase for your stupidity/parroting is only drawing attention to the very point I'm trying to make. Yet it still doesn't sink in. SQUAWKO! HilariousO!

[spoon]

and man can you kill even a bad joke like el bloombito

jesus we get it, he's bad at spanish

looks like someone is in your crosshairs of late...wonder why?

[spoon]

and for the record wf, not a bloomberg fan AT ALL

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and for the record wf, not a bloomberg fan AT ALL



I never liked Bloomberg, that's not something just recent.


It's not because he sucks at Spanish , He wants to micromanage the lives of his constituents and thinks he's all powerful


NYC Voters said 2 terms and he told them fuck you


Back to Espanol. He's worth 18 billion he can't buy Rosetta Stone or hire a tutor?

[spoon]

I never liked Bloomberg, that's not something just recent.


It's not because he sucks at Spanish , He wants to micromanage the lives of his constituents and thinks he's all powerful


NYC Voters said 2 terms and he told them fuck you


Back to Espanol. He's worth 18 billion he can't buy Rosetta Stone or hire a tutor?

nobody said I thought you hated him bc he sucks at spanish, and we actually agree on the real reason

I only brought it up bc you can't help yourself with the bad jokes and of course it's bc you aren't a fan of his. It's your m o

And who really cares if he sucks, he made a valid effort and just sucks at it.

[Jujubees2]

Didnt Reagan take heat for giving a speech in Japan after his term was over? I think it was a couple of million back in 1989

I like how now all of a sudden its accepted. Im not begrudging an ex president to do that at all.


Say what you want about Bush 41 and 43, They have remained out of the spotlight for the most part. Once in a while Carter will pop up and bash Jews but to his credit he was influential for Habitat for Humanity

Yeah, Bush only does gigs in the Caymen Islands where no one can speak about it.

'Blackout' imposed as George W. Bush speaks at Cayman Islands investment conference (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/02/14875519-blackout-imposed-as-george-w-bush-speaks-at-cayman-islands-investment-conference?lite)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh yes like he's the only one practicing this

[spoon]

Oh yes like he's the only one practicing this

no no, he doesn't do it at all and it's only the dems now and it's acceptable bc of that remember?

you are all over the fucking place so much you don't even remember what the fuck you just said

and closed door investment meeting in the caymans, really?!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no no, he doesn't do it at all and it's only the dems now and it's acceptable bc of that remember?

you are all over the fucking place so much you don't even remember what the fuck you just said

and closed door investment meeting in the caymans, really?!

I didnt say Bush is in Hibernation, you dont see him showing up as much as Gore Clinton, and yes Cheney. That was my point

Yes, for rich people. Ever hear of a hedge fund? if you have only $100k to invest, the doors are closed for you as some subscriptions minimum investments are at least a million.


Like politicians don't have closed door meetings. Where were those C SPAN Debates regarding Obamacare

[spoon]

I didnt say Bush is in Hibernation, you dont see him showing up as much as Gore Clinton, and yes Cheney. That was my point

Yes, for rich people. Ever hear of a hedge fund? if you have only $100k to invest, the doors are closed for you as some subscriptions minimum investments are at least a million.


Like politicians don't have closed door meetings. Where were those C SPAN Debates regarding Obamacare

there's a huge dif there

HUGE

and yah wf, thanks for the econ/market lesson...you really are hilarious

tell me more of the money access I was making as a point in a foreign land

please explain my very point

[WRESTLINGFAN]

there's a huge dif there

HUGE

and yah wf, thanks for the econ/market lesson...you really are hilarious

tell me more of the money access I was making as a point in a foreign land

please explain my very point

No there isn't

Those people arent trying to come up with another gov't scheme.

Here's an economics lesson. Obama is a Keynesian and that does not mean he is from Africa and grew up in a mud hut.

[spoon]

wow

you're such a fool

[spoon]

just HAD to add on the mud hut thing too right

blatant this time

way to go

[WRESTLINGFAN]

People who don't know what a Keynesian is would say thats birther talk.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

just HAD to add on the mud hut thing too right

blatant this time

way to go

Wait, youre saying Kenya doesn't have mud huts?

[spoon]

People who don't know what a Keynesian is would say thats birther talk.

which not one fucking person ever said here or anywhere I've EVER watched or listened to political shows

in fact, I doubt it has ever happened outside of your feeble mind that works like a single neuron firing away with catch phrases and backhanded attacks with plenty of racist overtones. quite honestly, it's frightening to read some of your thoughts, when it isn't told to you first. then dude! comes along and just cannonballs the whole thing with hate and vitriol usually focused on attacking some race.

[spoon]

Wait, youre saying Kenya doesn't have mud huts?

am i wf?

is THAT what I'm saying?

[hanso]

My last Governor got tossed on his ear for doing what New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has done, gave thanks and praise to Obama while accepting federal aid.


RIP Charlie Crist

[WRESTLINGFAN]

which not one fucking person ever said here or anywhere I've EVER watched or listened to political shows

in fact, I doubt it has ever happened outside of your feeble mind that works like a single neuron firing away with catch phrases and backhanded attacks with plenty of racist overtones. quite honestly, it's frightening to read some of your thoughts, when it isn't told to you first. then dude! comes along and just cannonballs the whole thing with hate and vitriol usually focused on attacking some race.

Ahhh the old word racist. Its people like you who actually cheapen that word.

Wanna know whats racism, not voting for Obama because he's half black or voting for him just on that premise.


But hell Blacks can't be racist right?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

am i wf?

is THAT what I'm saying?

Theres a world outside rf.net Quit thinking its only about you.


Go up to some woman who got her Obama phone and she will say youre a birther racist. Go to some part of Mississippi and say that Obamas economic policies are Keynesian they will say damn, right we dont need some nigger in the White House

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My last Governor got tossed on his ear for doing what New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has done, gave thanks and praise to Obama while accepting federal aid.


RIP Charlie Crist

Crist looks like he's been dead for years

[spoon]

Ahhh the old word racist. Its people like you who actually cheapen that word.

Wanna know whats racism, not voting for Obama because he's half black or voting for him just on that premise.


But hell Blacks can't be racist right?

and here we go, completely new topics like blacks can't be racist bc I stated your fucking bullshit post reeked of racism...bc it was CLEARLY intended.

it's not cheapened by me, it's pushed aside by you when you want to be an asshole and act like comments like that are acceptable to most...they aren't

but yes, blacks can be racist and not voting for obama doesn't make you a racist...but you know that and that it's my take

this is just your thing, talk in fucking circles, with OVERT racist statements tossed in, and then attack the OTHER SIDE for being so as if it makes yours ok or any better.

[hanso]

Crist looks like he's been dead for years

You must mean Scott.

[spoon]

Theres a world outside rf.net Quit thinking its only about you.


Go up to some woman who got her Obama phone and she will say youre a birther racist. Go to some part of Mississippi and say that Obamas economic policies are Keynesian they will say damn, right we dont need some nigger in the White House

YOU FUCKING ASKED ME A QUESTION, and then say quit thinking it's only about me!?

You are clearly insane at this point.

and on the last part, just keep it going baby

dig that lack of civil discourse hole deeper

their obama phone (not a policy that started under obama), economics or not, your take is childish, pathetic and geared at an EXTREME minority, if they make the tie in you claim AT ALL

just go back to tacking in mud huts and using the n word whenever you can...and I'll let you go ask such stupid questions with bullshit labels to women with "obama phones" or someone in Mississippi

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and here we go, completely new topics like blacks can't be racist bc I stated your fucking bullshit post reeked of racism...bc it was CLEARLY intended.

it's not cheapened by me, it's pushed aside by you when you want to be an asshole and act like comments like that are acceptable to most...they aren't

but yes, blacks can be racist and not voting for obama doesn't make you a racist...but you know that and that it's my take

this is just your thing, talk in fucking circles, with OVERT racist statements tossed in, and then attack the OTHER SIDE for being so as if it makes yours ok or any better.

Tell me Mr world Traveler, there are no mudhuts in Kenya? Ive been there and they have them there.


As usual you take a word like Keynesian and try to spin it along with a dwelling that people live in and say its racism



I don't believe in Eugenics like Margaret Sanger did. Want to see what racism sounds like? Feel free to view the quotes I posted

[WRESTLINGFAN]

YOU FUCKING ASKED ME A QUESTION, and then say quit thinking it's only about me!?

You are clearly insane at this point.

and on the last part, just keep it going baby

dig that lack of civil discourse hole deeper

their obama phone (not a policy that started under obama), economics or not, your take is childish, pathetic and geared at an EXTREME minority, if they make the tie in you claim AT ALL

just go back to tacking in mud huts and using the n word whenever you can...and I'll let you go ask such stupid questions with bullshit labels to women with "obama phones" or someone in Mississippi

I am the one being civil. You lack that.

I know it was pre Obama but don't you see my point its just another gov't program of redistribution? Its corporatism

Yes I asked you a question. Does Kenya have mudhuts or not? Why is that a difficult thing for you to answer

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You must mean Scott.

Politics aside. Scott might be a baldy, but he doesnt have the complexion of an oompa loompa

[spoon]

Tell me Mr world Traveler, there are no mudhuts in Kenya? Ive been there and they have them there.


As usual you take a word like Keynesian and try to spin it along with a dwelling that people live in and say its racism



I don't believe in Eugenics like Margaret Sanger did. Want to see what racism sounds like? Feel free to view the quotes I posted

of course she and pretty much any eugenics asshole is racist, your point and tie here?

being the world traveler I am, had NOTHING to do with if there are or aren't mud huts in Kenya. it has EVERYTHING to do with your intent on that post with the words and you damn well know it

nice try you racist fuck, you have talked of Keynesian economics COUNTLESS times on this board and that has ZERO to do with this either, outside of your failed, idiotic attempts

let's move on to something worse to diffuse your obvious take on race

[spoon]

I am the one being civil. You lack that.

I know it was pre Obama but don't you see my point its just another gov't program of redistribution? Its corporatism

Yes I asked you a question. Does Kenya have mudhuts or not? Why is that a difficult thing for you to answer

you elicit the response from me you deserve and will always get it

NOW YOUR POINT was on redistribution, and corporatism? ha! In the past it was, but there it was about racism in both directions you fucking fool

and your question is completely irrelevant and a bullshit ploy

when will you learn, focus and have a normal conversation w/o the tripe your posts are completely FILLED with

[WRESTLINGFAN]

of course she and pretty much any eugenics asshole is racist, your point and tie here?

being the world traveler I am, had NOTHING to do with if there are or aren't mud huts in Kenya. it has EVERYTHING to do with your intent on that post with the words and you damn well know it

nice try you racist fuck, you have talked of Keynesian economics COUNTLESS times on this board and that has ZERO to do with this either, outside of your failed, idiotic attempts

let's move on to something worse to diffuse your obvious take on race

So if someone mentions flats and London or Trailer parks and Alabama they hate whites? I just realized something. Do you have a show on MSNBC , do you have messy blond bedhead and try to link every word to racism, say like Golf, Chicago and apartment?

[spoon]

yes

perfect

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you elicit the response from me you deserve and will always get it

NOW YOUR POINT was on redistribution, and corporatism? ha! In the past it was, but there it was about racism in both directions you fucking fool

and your question is completely irrelevant and a bullshit ploy

when will you learn, focus and have a normal conversation w/o the tripe your posts are completely FILLED with

Yes giving Obama phones, free phones whatever you want to call it is Corporatism. Handouts without paying into something is redistribution

No racism here. I made a correlation btwn a form of shelter to its Country.


Its not just blacks in Kenya who live in huts so you are the one guilty of racism to immediately thinking its only blacks

[spoon]

did you just realize something?

really?


you have zero points...ever

it's just bullshit attacks tied to what you hear, meanwhile I don't even watch the network you speak of with me so often

the only liberal based programming I catch is pretty much lumped into three shows, TDS, Colbert and Bill M.

And I don't just soak up their opinions and spit them out as fact like say, you do constantly.

and the flats in london comment is HILARIOUS! keep digging fool

[spoon]

Yes giving Obama phones, free phones whatever you want to call it is Corporatism. Handouts without paying into something is redistribution

No racism here. I made a correlation btwn a form of shelter to its Country.


Its not just blacks in Kenya who live in huts so you are the one guilty of racism to immediately thinking its only blacks

you don't even remember the reason for your own posts minutes after hitting submit...I can't even make this shit up

and your CONSTANT jabs and rips on certain races and people pile up. your body of work speaks for itself

no need to deflect, it's on the record at this point

the only thing that can save you now is the overt racists stylings of your crony, dude!

seriously, at least he's honest with it all

a honest asshole fuck at that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

did you just realize something?

really?


you have zero points...ever

it's just bullshit attacks tied to what you hear, meanwhile I don't even watch the network you speak of with me so often

the only liberal based programming I catch is pretty much lumped into three shows, TDS, Colbert and Bill M.

And I don't just soak up their opinions and spit them out as fact like say, you do constantly.

and the flats in london comment is HILARIOUS! keep digging fool


So you just swallow all their opinions then. I see.

I'll reiterate. You cheapen the word racist when there is real racism out there say like voting based on skin color or beating up a Jewish person coming back from synagogue.

[spoon]

No racism here. I made a correlation btwn a form of shelter to its Country.



just for fun right?

you just added that in bc it was appropriate in what manner? how did it tie in in any fucking way? you just thought you'd lay some shelter breakdowns as to its country as a knowledge bomb, for our own good right?

ooof

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-21_jyYvyZxo/T16-fJ9X6oI/AAAAAAAADqI/HaJaKxYuxfg/s1600/themoreyouknow.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you don't even remember the reason for your own posts minutes after hitting submit...I can't even make this shit up

and your CONSTANT jabs and rips on certain races and people pile up. your body of work speaks for itself

no need to deflect, it's on the record at this point

the only thing that can save you now is the overt racists stylings of your crony, dude!

seriously, at least he's honest with it all

a honest asshole fuck at that

I remember what I post.

Way to cheapen the word racist again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

just for fun right?

you just added that in bc it was appropriate in what manner? how did it tie in in any fucking way? you just thought you'd lay some shelter breakdowns as to its country as a knowledge bomb, for our own good right?

ooof

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-21_jyYvyZxo/T16-fJ9X6oI/AAAAAAAADqI/HaJaKxYuxfg/s1600/themoreyouknow.jpg

Yup


There might be people who never left this country

[spoon]

So you just swallow all their opinions then. I see.

I'll reiterate. You cheapen the word racist when there is real racism out there say like voting based on skin color or beating up a Jewish person coming back from synagogue.

you don't stop

swallow now, really?

you can't help yourself

and you fail to see that there are levels of anything out there too

not ONE person said voting on skin color is a good thing, or beating a Jewish person at any time is either (where the fuck do you come up with this shit in this convo?)

you're just continually trying to dumb down your obvious bullshit and change the topic as per your norm

tell me more of mud huts linked to politics bc they are so pertinent, especially in a conversation like the one that was ongoing before you went to your trump card

[spoon]

I remember what I post.

Way to cheapen the word racist again

ah, the racist is now a crusader on race equality and awareness

how quaint

and you do NOT remember what you post

you constantly are all over the place

[spoon]

Yup


There might be people who never left this country


posters are so lucky to have you to educate them as to the dominant dwellings of each country on this planet...oh wait, it was only one place and not the dominant dwelling, just something many will use to belittle and put down.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you don't stop

swallow now, really?

you can't help yourself

and you fail to see that there are levels of anything out there too

not ONE person said voting on skin color is a good thing, or beating a Jewish person at any time is either (where the fuck do you come up with this shit in this convo?)

you're just continually trying to dumb down your obvious bullshit and change the topic as per your norm

tell me more of mud huts linked to politics bc they are so pertinent, especially in a conversation like the one that was ongoing before you went to your trump card

Just once I would like to see you show some Anger when someone mocks religion, specifically Christianity.

I mention the word Keynesian and what some might think and as usual turn it into a clusterfuck.


You'd make a great bureaucrat

[WRESTLINGFAN]

posters are so lucky to have you to educate them as to the dominant dwellings of each country on this planet...oh wait, it was only one place and not the dominant dwelling, just something many will use to belittle and put down.

I belittle anyone who sees Keynesian then assumes birther.

[spoon]

i hate that and most forms of economic theory, and somehow you fail to see how that has NOTHING to do with this

your mind is so fucking muddled and jaded you have no concept of what is actually going on around you and here

and I will NOT defend Christianity or any religion for that matter bc it's all a contrived bullshit crutch to control the masses

why do you want me to defend this? what would it prove other than me being a hypocrite since I don't mock every religion so to speak, but surely don't defend all their bullshit practices, issues and myopic takes on the world tied to their leaders' needs and path to control.

as normal, you are completely off topic again and lost the points being discussed (NOT economics at this point)

[spoon]

I belittle anyone who sees Keynesian then assumes birther.

not one soul did that here

and your crusade on stupidity led us to the fact you are a racist fool

you simply couldn't make your point, and many others, without dipping in your toes into the racist pool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

not one soul did that here

and your crusade on stupidity led us to the fact you are a racist fool

you simply couldn't make your point, and many others, without dipping in your toes into the racist pool

Did I say only here on this specific message board?


Tu Comprende Ingles ?

I made my point. And I stick by it. I'll say it again so you can comprehend


I will belittle anyone on this board or off who reads Keynesian and assumes Birther.

[spoon]

yes, your new point has been made

and your old points were cloudy on subject, clear on racism

[WRESTLINGFAN]

i hate that and most forms of economic theory, and somehow you fail to see how that has NOTHING to do with this

your mind is so fucking muddled and jaded you have no concept of what is actually going on around you and here

and I will NOT defend Christianity or any religion for that matter bc it's all a contrived bullshit crutch to control the masses

why do you want me to defend this? what would it prove other than me being a hypocrite since I don't mock every religion so to speak, but surely don't defend all their bullshit practices, issues and myopic takes on the world tied to their leaders' needs and path to control.

as normal, you are completely off topic again and lost the points being discussed (NOT economics at this point)

In a way, I agree but people are free to be Atheists, Agnostics or believers. No one is forcing you to join a religion and no one should

So why do you defend your view of politics, big government and a social democracy like for example universal healthcare, (not Obamacare which is more corporatism) I'm talking single payer That is a way to control the masses too.


Keep devaluing the term racist like your government devalues the currency.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, your new point has been made

and your old points were cloudy on subject, clear on racism

Do you know what racism is? Or do you just like to spout out that buzzword ?

[cougarjake13]

does no one else find it ironic that he uses wrestling fan as his name but posts mainly in politics forum ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

i hate that and most forms of economic theory, and somehow you fail to see how that has NOTHING to do with this

your mind is so fucking muddled and jaded you have no concept of what is actually going on around you and here

and I will NOT defend Christianity or any religion for that matter bc it's all a contrived bullshit crutch to control the masses

why do you want me to defend this? what would it prove other than me being a hypocrite since I don't mock every religion so to speak, but surely don't defend all their bullshit practices, issues and myopic takes on the world tied to their leaders' needs and path to control.

as normal, you are completely off topic again and lost the points being discussed (NOT economics at this point)

I am no fan of organized religion. Also I am not sure if there is a supreme being or not. Religion has caused wars however it was the state which killed 100 million people last century. Yup, Communism, Fascism, Nazism you name it, people were killed in the name of the state

Don't you realize it was people like Mao, Stalin and others who controlled the masses ?

[spoon]

In a way, I agree but people are free to be Atheists, Agnostics or believers. No one is forcing you to join a religion and no one should

So why do you defend your view of politics, big government and a social democracy like for example universal healthcare, (not Obamacare which is more corporatism) I'm talking single payer That is a way to control the masses too.


Keep devaluing the term racist like your government devalues the currency.

like i said wf, i don't mock it, but will attack religion when it's being used to form public policy or it impacts me in any way

do what you want, even if it's just an older, more established cult (christianity/muslim/jewish faiths), just don't think for a second I give two fucks about it

and for the record I was raised christian, and got in trouble questioning my instructors as early as 9 years old...i never once bought into it

and why do i defend my view on politics? that's one of the most ludicrous questions I've ever been asked. you figure it out...consider it your weekend assignment. I hardly think you can focus long enough to respond to this post specifically, much less a few days down the road.

in fact, how did it fucking turn from bloomberg, to economics, to racism to this nonsense on religion and your bullshit take on my political views? classic fool lack of focus

[spoon]

Do you know what racism is? Or do you just like to spout out that buzzword ?

nope no clue

it's just a buzzword I use for racist like you

[WRESTLINGFAN]

does no one else find it ironic that he uses wrestling fan as his name but posts mainly in politics forum ?

I post a lot in sports too, Specifially in MLB and Yankees threads


Uh oh!! That is going to make Spoon mad because he hates the Yankees.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

nope no clue

it's just a buzzword I use for racist like you

Your use of the word devalues it once again.

[spoon]

I am no fan of organized religion. Also I am not sure if there is a supreme being or not. Religion has caused wars however it was the state which killed 100 million people last century. Yup, Communism, Fascism, Nazism you name it, people were killed in the name of the state

Don't you realize it was people like Mao, Stalin and others who controlled the masses ?

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/jediagh/funny/stay_on_topic.jpg

i give up wf, you once again are spiraling out of control. you are now arguing with me on fucking COMMUNISM and FASCISM as if I'm fucking for it or don't see their flaws.

you're a fucking fool and a mess

[spoon]

Your use of the word devalues it once again.

nah, that fits perfectly

like a well tailored suit of xenophobia

[WRESTLINGFAN]

nah, that fits perfectly

like a well tailored suit of xenophobia

Yup, throw in the other buzzword. Took you long enough. You dress sloppy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Spoon

Where was your cries of racism when there was a commercial of Allen West with a gold tooth punching out a white lady.

[spoon]

Spoon

Where was your cries of racism when there was a commercial of Allen West with a gold tooth punching out a white lady.

soooooo relevant

i don't know where I was WF, bc this is the first I heard of it and I don't make it common place to comment on something I have little knowledge on, much less any awareness of it at all.

and you can pull out racist moments of the past all day, true or not bc I have no way of knowing if you're blowing something out of proportion or not here, yet it still doesn't write off your own blatant bullshit racist tones consistently whenever it's a something not like you

[Jujubees2]

Holy crap. I'm in PA for the and just about every ad on TV is political. Most of the Romney ads are from PACs. So glad I live in NY.

[keithy_19]

Holy crap. I'm in PA for the and just about every ad on TV is political. Most of the Romney ads are from PACs. So glad I live in NY.

I get a bunch of ads for Linda McMahon and I'm in Jersey. I'[m not sure why I do (sure we're close but still).

[keithy_19]

And though it's a little under a week ago, I'm calling th election for Romney but a pretty decent margin. Not a blow out, but a good sized win. And if I'm wrong then I'm wrong and I will gladly admit it. He'll be my president and I'll wish this country nothing but prosperity.

[Jujubees2]

And though it's a little under a week ago, I'm calling th election for Romney but a pretty decent margin. Not a blow out, but a good sized win. And if I'm wrong then I'm wrong and I will gladly admit it. He'll be my president and I'll wish this country nothing but prosperity.

Are you drunk again Keithy?