~ 2014 NHL Season ~

[ihaveabadmonkey]

If Nashville matches they can't trade him for a calendar year, but I agree with you that they probably match. It sucks for Poile that Holmgren took negotiations out of his hands, but from what I understand the Predators don't have to honor any secondary language in the offer sheet like no trade or no movement clauses. They just have to agree to the money structure.

I think since he was restricted that he was only going to sign a 1 year deal anyway. And I don't see how owners can ask for a salary reduction and 5 year max contracts and 4 days later this happens.

[keithy_19]

I know offer sheets are part of the CBA, but they're a dick move either way.

This.

[spoon]

There is no way Nashville's GM is going to let his 2 best players leave in the same off season with nothing in return. I say they match the offer and either trade him right away or next off season. Plus hasn't anyone learned not to sign long term deals with Philly.

well if this weber offer sheet thing stands, Philly gives Nashville a shitload of first round picks so that's a lot more than nothing in return

they had zero control in the Suter thing...he was leaving no matter what they offered

[spoon]

I think since he was restricted that he was only going to sign a 1 year deal anyway. And I don't see how owners can ask for a salary reduction and 5 year max contracts and 4 days later this happens.

not all owners agree on this, and the Philly gm/ownership are clearly one of those who do not

[spoon]

This.

part of the game and I kind of like the craziness even when the Rangers almost stole Sakic


fuck yourself rangers!

Sakic is an Av forever!

[razorboy]

Eh, again I know it's part of the CBA but the way it's structured almost entirely in signing bonuses through the first six years is stupid. Holmgren knows he is putting Poile and Nashville's ownership between a rock and a hard place by putting $27 million of the contract up in the first calendar year for a franchise that isn't in the greatest shape financially. Also, as someone who wants to see the NHL games this season this contract structure is going to be a huge point of contention amongst all parties at labor negotiations.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

part of the game and I kind of like the craziness even when the Rangers almost stole Sakic


fuck yourself rangers!

Sakic is an Av forever!

I forgot about that one, having the first year worth 15 million to try to screw the Avs. And it was the start of the rise in contracts which led to the meaningless lockout.

[spoon]

oh these contracts HAVE to go...bc is he going to play 14 years from now? Really?

very few play into their late 30's much less mid 40's, as Teemu is not the norm

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Sounds like Nash is finally going to the Rangers. no one reporting who is going the other way as of yet.

TSN reporting: Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a 1st for Rick Nash.

[Kevin]

Sounds like Nash is finally going to the Rangers. no one reporting who is going the other way as of yet.

TSN reporting: Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a 1st for Rick Nash.


Trade official.

Great deal for the Rangers. The did not have to give up Kreider or Del Zotto.

[keithy_19]

Trade official.

Great deal for the Rangers. The did not have to give up Kreider or Del Zotto.

Horrible, horrible, horrible trade for Howson. He sure knows how to fuck over the fans of the Blue Jackets.

[cougarjake13]

thank god

I just bought a kreider jersey

[spoon]

Trade official.

Great deal for the Rangers. The did not have to give up Kreider or Del Zotto.

might have been worth a Cup if done earlier

[razorboy]

Predators match offer sheet to Weber. (http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=638547)

[spoon]

that much had to be expected

preds would sink if they let both suter and weber go

[WRESTLINGFAN]

411 on the lockout


http://news.yahoo.com/ice-nhl-locks-players-040342857--nhl.html

[cougarjake13]

this thread should be locked as long as the nhl is locked out

[spoon]

so there's this right...thoughts?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RC_YhkKKK0A/T7yHko-VoPI/AAAAAAAAAFw/KxgQiG9Ex8g/s1600/Brooklyn+Islanders.png

[spoon]

and man this is hilarious

http://blogimages.thescore.com/nhl/files/2011/08/brooklynsign.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Boro of Bklyn is on Long Island even though many people consider Nassau and Suffolk as L I

[spoon]

i said that in the nhl spy report thread too

and here you go for the revamp logo/color crowd

http://www.tomfulery.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/BrooklynIslanders.png

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/vEB4w3FOol6kyR6ruck3Vw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/301978_XkrpjU2KOB2IlaeFm4rzi02Fm.jpg

[spoon]

featured story on NHL.com right now...mighty ducks movies

so sad

[hanso]

They say the only change to the team is the 30 miles they will move.

[keithy_19]

featured story on NHL.com right now...mighty ducks movies

so sad

I agree. Hey spoon, where can I find AHL games? Do they get broadcasted at all? I'd like to see how some of the Devils prospects are doing (and I'd get to watch Henrique and Larsson).

[spoon]

not really sure, as I've just been following online via box scores and rundowns.

ahl.com ?

[keithy_19]

not really sure, as I've just been following online via box scores and rundowns.

ahl.com ?

Maybe. I'll check it out. I just want to keep up on some of the the up and comers for the team. And both have tremendous upside (Henrique could be the captain of the team some day) and Larsson is going to be a great defenseman. And hey, it'll be neat to check out the future goalies for the team. Most likely the future goalies.

[spoon]

Maybe. I'll check it out. I just want to keep up on some of the the up and comers for the team. And both have tremendous upside (Henrique could be the captain of the team some day) and Larsson is going to be a great defenseman. And hey, it'll be neat to check out the future goalies for the team. Most likely the future goalies.

let's be honest, Henrique should be the captain as soon as the nhl comes back, not kovi

yet we know this won't be the case

did they ever hand off the c yet?

on the larsson point, I'm still pissed at his bullshit contract that Lou pushed on the kid. complete bs concept on it and they really took advantage of him

[keithy_19]

let's be honest, Henrique should be the captain as soon as the nhl comes back, not kovi

yet we know this won't be the case

did they ever hand off the c yet?

on the larsson point, I'm still pissed at his bullshit contract that Lou pushed on the kid. complete bs concept on it and they really took advantage of him

Kovy was great in the playoffs and even better during the regular season. I feel he get's a lot of flack and I'm not sure why. He sucked during the cup finals but the whole team was pretty awful. I do really like Hneirique though and the way he plays. He's a tremendous talent and the kind of talent that bleeds leader. I also LOVE how he handled that game winning goal against LA in game five. He made an unreal shot and he acted like he had done it before. Fucking loved it. So much calm in one of the biggest goals of his career (his goal against Florida and moreso his goal against the Rangers will probably go down as his biggest moment*).

*That's kind of an odd statement considering he has such a long career left and raw, just incredible talent and hockey sense.

As for the Larsson thing, I'm drawing a blank about what happened.

[keithy_19]

And no, they didn't hand off the C yet. My top three choices would be Salvador (guy is a work horse and plays with his all and has a lot of respect in the clubhouse), Henrique (for all the reasons in my post above), and then Kovy.

[spoon]

kovy is the reason Parise is gone. that contract and his style simply aren't the norm for the devs but here we are

larsson was convinced by Lou that no dev gets bonus clauses in their contracts, yet the devs never draft so high as to them being necessary in the past. it was a half truth and complete bullshit bc they didn't have money to sign him as a normal kid drafted that high gets 99.9% of the time. the kids CAN NOT be paid at a normal rate or like a vet player, there are rules to keep this spending at bay (like the new nfl take on drafted players and their slot). however, a bonus setup to make sure the top and nhl ready players get closer to their value was/is set up. it works mainly on games played, and with kids that young you KNOW they must earn the time and the HUGE majority get returned to their junior team without even a shot at the NHL bc they aren't ready or are too small. the rule is there for guys like Larsson and Landeskog more ready, if not really close in development and then could make a good living as an NHL player, not paid at 5th round player type level.

Larsson is just that, while he should have made much more and Lou played semantics with him. It was dishonorable by Lou and the opposite, yet naive to say the least, by Larsson and his agent.

[cougarjake13]

winter classic cancelled

[spoon]

winter classic cancelled

nice!

fuck detroit!

[cougarjake13]

looks like they're getting back to bargaining table

classic is prolly still out unless they do a deal quick or move the date

[A.J.]

winter classic cancelled

nice!

fuck detroit!

Too soon. They just lost the World Series.

[cougarjake13]

Too soon. They just lost the World Series.



not really


fuck em

[spoon]

not really


fuck em

yah this

the real question is who is older, their owner or dspy?

[cougarjake13]

yah this

the real question is who is older, their owner or dspy?



tie


theyre both old decrepid crypt keeper fucks

[spoon]

looks like wf has been attending games in Europe

Pretty fucking disgusting. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl--wayne-simmonds-refuses-to-let-racist-incident-define-his-european-experience.html)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

looks like wf has been attending games in Europe

Pretty fucking disgusting. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl--wayne-simmonds-refuses-to-let-racist-incident-define-his-european-experience.html)

Good job skippy. Now thats racism.


Its not some cheap line you keep parroting

[spoon]

Good job skippy. Now thats racism.


Its not some cheap line you keep parroting

no it's the feel of wf and his cunty racism at it's best

you should be proud of the Czechs on that one am I right!?

and you're still the GOP tourettes/racist parrot no matter how much you type it at others

fuckwad fool that you are, right skippy?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no it's the feel of wf and his cunty racism at it's best

you should be proud of the Czechs on that one am I right!?

and you're still the GOP tourettes/racist parrot no matter how much you type it at others

fuckwad fool that you are, right skippy?

Nope and Nope

And youre still the same angry troll. Maybe you need to refresh your memory and im not a member of the GOP

[spoon]

Nope and Nope

And youre still the same angry troll. Maybe you need to refresh your memory and im not a member of the GOP

oh but you lick their balls until they are outright pathetic on every level

and your boy Johnson comes from the Republican background, not the other side of the fence ... just like 90% of your views where you add in racist remarks

and I didn't say you were a GOP member, just you parrot their bullshit like a very specific form of pathetic tourettes

hence GOP tourettes

you've been called out on it by countless people, I just gave it a stamp just for you fuckwad

[keithy_19]

I'm watching KHL hockey on MSG and I just can't get into it. :unsure:

[razorboy]

I'm watching KHL hockey on MSG and I just can't get into it. :unsure:

I've watched some of it. I've heard for years that international ice makes for a more exciting game, and for the life of me I'll never understand why. If anything a lot of things that look really impressive on tighter North American ice just look sort of unnecessary on bigger ice. The whole game slows down considerably. Oh, KHL goalies by and large suck monkey balls also.

[keithy_19]

I've watched some of it. I've heard for years that international ice makes for a more exciting game, and for the life of me I'll never understand why. If anything a lot of things that look really impressive on tighter North American ice just look sort of unnecessary on bigger ice. The whole game slows down considerably. Oh, KHL goalies by and large suck monkey balls also.

It seems sloppier and you're right about the goalies. I'm not sure why they don't look nearly as sharp considering they were NHL goalies.

[spoon]

mediators making some headway

hope

and for good luck, new avatar

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/uploads/blog/sbnu_logo_minimal/125/large_milehighhockey.com.minimal.png

Can anyone shrink this to the biggest size allowed and cut out the white borders around it?

[spoon]

ha, future wings driving around like keithy (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/red-wings-prospect-riley-sheahan-wearing-teletubby-costume-200902189--nhl.html)

[spoon]

<a href="http://www.gifbin.com/985265"><img src="http://gifs.gifbin.com/052011/1304618376_tumbleweed-gif.gif" alt="funny gifs" /></a>

[spoon]

<a href="http://www.gifbin.com/985265"><img src="http://gifs.gifbin.com/052011/reverse-1304618376_tumbleweed-gif.gif" alt="funny gifs" /></a>

[hanso]

Talks went well they say

[ihaveabadmonkey]

it's been 2 months since the season was supposed to start and I don't find myself missing it at all.

[cougarjake13]

I won't first miss it til the winter classic is supposed to be on
and then not again til playoffs

[TripleSkeet]

As someone that works at the stadium I can tell you losing the NHL this season has been DEVASTATING financially to me and alot of other people that work there. And yet all of these greedy motherfuckers bicker and argue while living in mansions and driving BMWs. Im disgusted with all of them.

All I want for Christmas is for Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr to get pancreatic cancer and die.

[Kevin]

As someone that works at the stadium I can tell you losing the NHL this season has been DEVASTATING financially to me and alot of other people that work there. And yet all of these greedy motherfuckers bicker and argue while living in mansions and driving BMWs. Im disgusted with all of them.

All I want for Christmas is for Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr to get pancreatic cancer and die.

Do you only work NHL and NBA games?

Or are their separate staffs for leagues in cites that have teams both?

[TripleSkeet]

Do you only work NHL and NBA games?

Or are their separate staffs for leagues in cites that have teams both?

I work in a restaurant in the stadium. We are usually only open for NBA and NHL games, and some concerts. The Flyers games are the ones where you really make your money though.

[Kevin]

I work in a restaurant in the stadium. We are usually only open for NBA and NHL games, and some concerts. The Flyers games are the ones where you really make your money though.

Better fans and more drinking I would assume....

[TripleSkeet]

Better fans and more drinking I would assume....

Bigger draw, bigger spenders, and better tippers. For an average Flyers game we have about 200-250 reservations not counting walk-ins. Sixers youre looking at 80-100 reservations when they are playing a good team, 25-50 when they play a shitty team.

[keithy_19]

As someone that works at the stadium I can tell you losing the NHL this season has been DEVASTATING financially to me and alot of other people that work there. And yet all of these greedy motherfuckers bicker and argue while living in mansions and driving BMWs. Im disgusted with all of them.

All I want for Christmas is for Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr to get pancreatic cancer and die.

I feel for you, man. The economy is bad enough as it is and then this. I really do hate them all. Bettman, the Fehr fucks, the owners, and the players. I understanding the players wanting to make the most they can but give me a fucking break. The people they have going to represent the NHLPA will NEVER have to work again in their lives. Fuck them.

[keithy_19]

And to add on to what you were saying TripleSkeet, the Prudential center gets a lot of good concerts with it being a state of the art facility, but all the little places by the stadium are hurting. No one is going to Newark to go to some little bar.

[spoon]

Well that newark arena plan is still in the making.....years behind and hence the fighting bt booker and dev ownership.

And unlike monkey earlier, i miss the nhl in a huge way.

[hanso]

Talks went well they say

So much for that, the next day it fell apart and is going nowhere fast now. If it goes to mid Jan. the whole season will be lost.

[spoon]

So much for that, the next day it fell apart and is going nowhere fast now. If it goes to mid Jan. the whole season will be lost.

what a bday present that would be

:thumbdown:

[spoon]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oLv_INKF9p0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[TripleSkeet]

Good to see these poor guys finding a way to make it through such a difficult financial time for themselves. :wallbash:

[hanso]

So much for that, the next day it fell apart and is going nowhere fast now. If it goes to mid Jan. the whole season will be lost.

They took it to mid Jan. chances are very slim now for a season. The Dolphins have a better chance to make the playoffs

My home team makes playoffs last season first time in over a decade of course this happens.

[spoon]

Good to see these poor guys finding a way to make it through such a difficult financial time for themselves. :wallbash:

i seriously don't put any blame on the players

sorry, this has owner stink all over it...and their idiot bettman

what good has he ever done for hockey?

[TripleSkeet]

i seriously don't put any blame on the players

sorry, this has owner stink all over it...and their idiot bettman

what good has he ever done for hockey?

I actually agree with you. They gave up 7% of their revenue, that alone shouldve made the owners jump on the deal. Their greed sickens me.

However everything Ive been reading has been saying that it would be retarded to scrap the season over the few remaining issues they have left. They are basically arguing over years now. From what Ive read it seems both sides are feeling they are gonna play a 48 game season and are just posturing before the deadline to get a deal done to see if the other side will give anything else up. They are hoping the union de-certification helps get a deal done quickly like it did with the NBA.

Im just hoping we dont lose the season because of the huge fucking egos of Bettman and Fehr.

[Kevin]

i seriously don't put any blame on the players

sorry, this has owner stink all over it...and their idiot bettman

what good has he ever done for hockey?

When he dies.

Seriously. The league was getting back on track again.

LA 8TH seed winning it.

NY Rangers a legit contender even without the Nash acquisition.

And some good young players and teams coming up.

And this fuck head just flushes it down the Toilet with his rat faced awfulness.

[Kevin]

I actually agree with you. They gave up 7% of their revenue, that alone shouldve made the owners jump on the deal. Their greed sickens me.

However everything Ive been reading has been saying that it would be retarded to scrap the season over the few remaining issues they have left. They are basically arguing over years now. From what Ive read it seems both sides are feeling they are gonna play a 48 game season and are just posturing before the deadline to get a deal done to see if the other side will give anything else up. They are hoping the union de-certification helps get a deal done quickly like it did with the NBA.

Im just hoping we dont lose the season because of the huge fucking egos of Bettman and Fehr.

Fehr prob deserves blame too but lets face it, Its Bettman, he has done this what 3 OTHER TIMES before him?

[El Mudo]

It's that time of year again

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hCbyzELbaTk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Playing the Russians today at 9 am East Coast time on NHL Network. Got the DVR fired up.

[spoon]

It's that time of year again

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hCbyzELbaTk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Playing the Russians today at 9 am East Coast time on NHL Network. Got the DVR fired up.

Boooo!

Played a solid game and lost to the home team in a 2-1 battle. Marakov was virtually unbeatable in net (Shots favored US 44-28 I believe), but the US squad outplayed the Russians overall. Meanwhile the Slovaks pissed away a game vs the Canadians, up 2-0 and then Strome (Islander property and looking good), helped lead the charge to keep Canada on top of that sick division B.

[NickyL0885]

Boooo!

Played a solid game and lost to the home team in a 2-1 battle. Marakov was virtually unbeatable in net (Shots favored US 44-28 I believe), but the US squad outplayed the Russians overall. Meanwhile the Slovaks pissed away a game vs the Canadians, up 2-0 and then Strome (Islander property and looking good), helped lead the charge to keep Canada on top of that sick division B.

YES! YES! YES!

[cougarjake13]

YES! YES! YES!



too bad u won't see him unless it's in the khl, echl or ahl

[hanso]

Talks are back on this w/e...prob only to be snuffed out yet again.

[spoon]

Talks are back on this w/e...prob only to be snuffed out yet again.

nah, I hear they are pretty close now

players are taking it up the ass again, wf style

[NickyL0885]

nah, I hear they are pretty close now

players are taking it up the ass again, wf style

Well, they say anything less than 48 games is a cancelled season. So, puck would have to drop 3rd week of January, with a week a training camp prior. Probably be tons of injuries, at least for the guys who aren't currently playing overseas. Skating and shooting at a local rink is good and all, but it's not game conditions. Either way, I just want hockey. As bad as my Isles are, it's a joy getting to watch John Tavares grow with each game. He needs to have the C next year.

[NickyL0885]

I like the buyout of 1 contract ala the NBA. I hope the Isles get rid of DiPietro. They have Nabakov, and a great prospect in Poulin.

[spoon]

Well, they say anything less than 48 games is a cancelled season. So, puck would have to drop 3rd week of January, with a week a training camp prior. Probably be tons of injuries, at least for the guys who aren't currently playing overseas. Skating and shooting at a local rink is good and all, but it's not game conditions. Either way, I just want hockey. As bad as my Isles are, it's a joy getting to watch John Tavares grow with each game. He needs to have the C next year.

He may not get that C, but he sure does seem to have some good quality coming up in that system to help lead in the near future in Brooklyn. I love the sound of Tavares/Strome as a 1-2 punch up the middle at center, your blueline prospect pool is unreal, with Reinhardt, Donovan and de Haan, and the wing Niederreiter will be solid once put on a real line...which will happen this year (or next) since PA left.

NYI's hole is and always seems to be at goalie. Nilsson is a work in progress, huge and quick for his size, but not seemingly ready. I haven't seen enough to give a full nod or burn, but to me, the Isle is very light at the position as per the norm.

[spoon]

US v Canada WJC in 1.5 hours!

I'll call it now...3-3 tie, US wins in OT

[cougarjake13]

US v Canada WJC in 1.5 hours!

I'll call it now...3-3 tie, US wins in OT



so??

what happened ?


we're waiting

[spoon]

so??

what happened ?


we're waiting


2-1 loss...should have tied it late too. Aboooooooo! Forgot Housley sucks as a coach...they all paly way too free with the puck...just like phil housley did...oof. Gibson was the only reason they were in it.

[hanso]

Talks went one over w/e & mon. and are on today also.

[El Mudo]

2-1 loss...should have tied it late too. Aboooooooo! Forgot Housley sucks as a coach...they all paly way too free with the puck...just like phil housley did...oof. Gibson was the only reason they were in it.

Gibson was unreal that game.

I want to be optimistic about the semis against Canada tomorrow, but man, it's just tough when Canada has like 5 guys who would be playing in the NHL right now if not for the lockout (RNH, Strome, Jenner, Huberdeau, Schiefle, maybe Hamilton and probably another two or three that I can't think of at the moment). And that's not even counting a guy like Jonathan Drouin, who looks like the real deal (much moreso than MacKinnon).

Semis are going to be really good tomorrow. Canada/USA and Sweden/Russia in a finals rematch. Haven't gotten a chance to see the Swedes yet, and I'm really excited to see Filip Forsberg.

[spoon]

He's no Peter!

And I can't wait to watch those sems at 4am too! I have hope as I don't think Subban is as solid as Gibson, and that alone can win this is Gibson continues to shut shit down! Calvin runs around too much in the net and could be beat with some patience and screens. Gibson is much better positionally and outplayed Subban in my mind the 2-1 loss. The US needs to tone up the grit and stop the fancy puck handling too.

[spoon]

i want us bread

a lot

tonight at 4

[NickyL0885]

I'll lose weight before this lockout ends.

[spoon]

I'll lose weight before this lockout ends.

it's not THAT bad fatty!

:devil2:

[NickyL0885]

it's not THAT bad fatty!

:devil2:

But my blood sugar is. womp womp.

[spoon]

But my blood sugar is. womp womp.

:lol:

get this kid some diabetic treats STAT!

[NickyL0885]

:lol:

get this kid some diabetic treats STAT!

I am eating Turkey Hill Chocolate PB Ice Cream. FAIL.

I've never been good at the whole eating healthy thing.

[spoon]

I am eating Turkey Hill Chocolate PB Ice Cream. FAIL.

I've never been good at the whole eating healthy thing.

me neither

i just metabolize shit like a furnace on crack/speed

[NickyL0885]

me neither

i just metabolize shit like a furnace on crack/speed

Ah. Well, I don't recommend becoming almost 350 lbs. Last time I was under 300 was 2004. :help: :surrender: :flush:

[spoon]

U
S
A

tomorrow, 8:30!

:clap:

[spoon]

going to be a very rough one, but should be fucking awesome (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/us-face-sweden-junior-worlds-164057126--nhl.html)

[spoon]

US kicked some fucking ass and shut down sweden 3-1 for the wcj championship!

US hockey is on fucking fire throughout juniors... and man we are churning out goalies of late like crazy while canada's struggles continue to grow in net

Russians handled their win in the bronze game in usual dicky fashion.

[razorboy]

Annnnd we're back. Almost. (http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/canada/another+long+nhl+lockout+ends+with+tentative+deal+ between+league+nhlpa/6442782788/story.html)

Deal agreed to and signed, owner and players ratification pending.

[NickyL0885]

Annnnd we're back. Almost. (http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/canada/another+long+nhl+lockout+ends+with+tentative+deal+ between+league+nhlpa/6442782788/story.html)

Deal agreed to and signed, owner and players ratification pending.

Lets Go Islanders! :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p:

[NickyL0885]

Via twitter from Katie Strang

Can confirm following terms: 10-yr deal with opt-out after 8 yrs, 7-yr contract term limits (8 to re-sign) and '13-14 cap of $64.3 m

[razorboy]

Additional details from a TSN piece.

- The league coming off their demand for a $60 million cap in Year 2, meeting the NHLPA's request to have it at $64.3 million - which was the upper limit from last year's cap. The salary floor in Year 2 will be $44 million.

- A player contract term limit will be seven years and eight years for a team signing its own player.

- The salary variance on contracts from year to year cannot vary more than 35 per cent and the final year cannot vary more than 50 per cent of the highest year.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412844.

[cougarjake13]

woohoo


48 game season !!!!

[hanso]

http://oi47.tinypic.com/sy7aj8.jpg

Claws out

[spoon]

Additional details from a TSN piece.







http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412844.

i pretty much agree with the rules you quoted that won't show up

[spoon]

http://oi47.tinypic.com/sy7aj8.jpg

Claws out

this year will be quite weird...and short enough to possibly mean the Avs get in before their normal late season shit swing

win win!

seriously though, I think your goalie situation will hurt you a LOT this season and you miss the playoffs if it runs the normal way, yet it will be a crazy quick season so anything can happen

[cougarjake13]

did they pass adding more playoff teams?

[keithy_19]

yet it will be a crazy quick season so anything can happen

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/008/502/cup95b_crop_650x440.jpg?1307848557

[spoon]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/008/502/cup95b_crop_650x440.jpg?1307848557

not that crazy

[cougarjake13]

well they did make the final last t year so it's not as crazy

[spoon]

well they did make the final last t year so it's not as crazy

sure it is, marty is older and had way too much time off and they lost their best overall player and captain

so very NOT likely

[spoon]

http://chl.uploads.mrx.ca/ohl/images/en/newser/2013/01/2013_WJC_USA_RUS73171629.jpg

[NickyL0885]

Nabakov better be the starter. DP can back up, until he is injured again. Tavares was tearing up the Swiss League, so I expect him to be in great form!

[razorboy]

Tavares was tearing up the Swiss League, so I expect him to be in great form!

So was Linus Omark, soooooo...

[cougarjake13]

sure it is, marty is older and had way too much time off and they lost their best overall player and captain

so very NOT likely



shorter season may help marty but yeh losing the best player not so good

[keithy_19]

shorter season may help marty but yeh losing the best player not so good

Kovy's staying in Russia?

:innocent:

[cougarjake13]

Kovy's staying in Russia?

:innocent:



as far as i can tell it seems like it was in his khl contract that if the dispute is resolved he goes back to devils

[NickyL0885]

So was Linus Omark, soooooo...

Oh please, don't compare the 2. JT is 1000 times the better player.

[razorboy]

Oh please, don't compare the 2. JT is 1000 times the better player.

I'm really not. I just don't read a lot into Euro League stats unless I've watched a ton of the specific player in his games, especially not the NLA.

[keithy_19]

as far as i can tell it seems like it was in his khl contract that if the dispute is resolved he goes back to devils

That's what I figured.

[hanso]

this year will be quite weird...and short enough to possibly mean the Avs get in before their normal late season shit swing

win win!

seriously though, I think your goalie situation will hurt you a LOT this season and you miss the playoffs if it runs the normal way, yet it will be a crazy quick season so anything can happen

Was the US team you guys were posting the Jr. one? I saw in todays paper it was a Fl prospect that lead them to the latest win and Fl does play the prospects.

[spoon]

That's what I figured.

ha, I thought you were just joking completely trying to claim Kovy is/was/ever will be a better player than Parise...bc he simply is not

[spoon]

Was the US team you guys were posting the Jr. one? I saw in todays paper it was a Fl prospect that lead them to the latest win and Fl does play the prospects.

yes and you must be talking about Rocco Grimaldi if you mean the kid the FINALLY showed up in the last game. he was supposed to add a whole lot more in this tournament and to say he underperformed is putting it lightly. Housley had to bench the guy to get him to hustle and not fuck around with puck like a fool, and only in the final did he really show up. In reality, I like Trocheck better of the two Florida prospects in the game...as Grimaldi and Gardeau may have shown up late (way later in Grimaldi's case), but their size too would worry me in the NHL game.

my fav in this tournament was Trouba...as a defenseman he ranked top five in points, was huge in his own end and plays with size and an smart edge. If i were an NHL team, I'd try hard to pry him from the Jets bc this kid is something. Loved McCabe's game too on the back end.

[NickyL0885]

I'm really not. I just don't read a lot into Euro League stats unless I've watched a ton of the specific player in his games, especially not the NLA.

My point was not so much his stats, more of he is in game shape. So, there won't be that "how many games before he hits his stride" talk. With a guy like Matt Moulson, his line mate who did not play overseas, you will hear that though. The guys who went overseas did the right thing, in that they will be ready to go conditioning wise. But for the others, skating at a rink and taking shots in a glorified practice is not the same. It helps, sure. But I bet we see a ton of injuries early.

[El Mudo]

yes and you must be talking about Rocco Grimaldi if you mean the kid the FINALLY showed up in the last game. he was supposed to add a whole lot more in this tournament and to say he underperformed is putting it lightly. Housley had to bench the guy to get him to hustle and not fuck around with puck like a fool, and only in the final did he really show up. In reality, I like Trocheck better of the two Florida prospects in the game...as Grimaldi and Gardeau may have shown up late (way later in Grimaldi's case), but their size too would worry me in the NHL game.

my fav in this tournament was Trouba...as a defenseman he ranked top five in points, was huge in his own end and plays with size and an smart edge. If i were an NHL team, I'd try hard to pry him from the Jets bc this kid is something. Loved McCabe's game too on the back end.

Grimaldi is Hockey Tebow. Right down to the religious zealotry. Florida's loaded up with great prospects regardless, from Jonathan Huberdeau to Quinton Howdon to Nick Bjugstad. And Jacob Markstrom.


Trouba was money this tournament (going to HATE seeing him on the Jets), as was John Gibson and Johnny Gaudreau. I wasn't too enamored with Seth Jones, because he had a couple really bad games, but dude has a ton of talent.

[hanso]

Well Panthers won their division and teams are probably only gonna play other teams in same conference so I see no reason they can't have same outcome.

El Mudo There is Erik Gudbranson also who had time to heal injury, like see him play.

[spoon]

Let's just say i highly doubt it happens again this year Hanso. My op of course.

[NickyL0885]

Seriously? The Isles better void that trade, and get back that 2nd round pick.

#Isles news: L. Visnovsky has decided to stay in Slovakia for the rest of the season, via his agent. Statement to come.

[cougarjake13]

Seriously? The Isles better void that trade, and get back that 2nd round pick.


can they even void it ?

[keithy_19]

ha, I thought you were just joking completely trying to claim Kovy is/was/ever will be a better player than Parise...bc he simply is not

Sooooooooooo much better. Hell, Parise was maybe the 5th best on the team.

:innocent:

[spoon]

Seriously? The Isles better void that trade, and get back that 2nd round pick.

The NHL is already acting on this saying they fully expect the KHL to honor the agreement they worked so hard to get with them a few years back to avoid any more Radulov situations. If they don't, it will get VERY ugly in the courts and the KHL will lose. I fully expect him back to complete his contract this year. If not, my guess is the KHL won't be allowed to let him play without a HUGE risk financially.

[spoon]

Sooooooooooo much better. Hell, Parise was maybe the 5th best on the team.

:innocent:

even as a joke that is fucking wrong to say

Although I think Henrique is surely at least A material and a future C. Yet I think it'll be Kovy as Captain for a few, Elias will keep the A as he is very Hejduk like and is a great help to a captain, but not captain material. Outside of that, I think you really need some leadership from the blue line, perhaps Salvador as the new A if Henrique doesn't get it/is deemed too young/too many forwards?

[El Mudo]

Burke fired in Toronto.

Hoooooo boy.

[newport king]

so roughly when is this season starting?

[cougarjake13]

so roughly when is this season starting?


18th 19th or 20th

[razorboy]

Burke fired in Toronto.

Hoooooo boy.

It's a sad sad day for Bruins fans everywhere.

Anyway, I get the firing but not the timing.

[keithy_19]

even as a joke that is fucking wrong to say

Although I think Henrique is surely at least A material and a future C. Yet I think it'll be Kovy as Captain for a few, Elias will keep the A as he is very Hejduk like and is a great help to a captain, but not captain material. Outside of that, I think you really need some leadership from the blue line, perhaps Salvador as the new A if Henrique doesn't get it/is deemed too young/too many forwards?

Henrique played with a hell of a lot of poise last year. He should get an A for the goal against Quick in game 5 last season. I agree with you on Elias keeping the A, and while I don't mind Kovy getting the C I sort of think Salvador would be a great captain as well. He's the leader of the defense.

[TripleSkeet]

so roughly when is this season starting?

Word is the 19th. Pens at Flyers at 3pm to kick off the season.

[KnoxHarrington]

Word is the 19th. Pens at Flyers at 3pm to kick off the season.



They probably want that because Philly has a devoted fanbase, but I'd love to see them playing in front of empty stands.

[cougarjake13]

any chance they still do a winter classic ?



also I know that they're not gonna have it but what if the all star game ? and more importantly the guys whose contracts give bonuses for going

[razorboy]

any chance they still do a winter classic ?

No, the schedule is already going to be nuts and Michigan Stadium is going to get it next year anyway.

[El Mudo]

They probably want that because Philly has a devoted fanbase, but I'd love to see them playing in front of empty stands.



.....or because Mr. Snider owns Comcast....who owns NBC

[TripleSkeet]

.....or because Mr. Snider owns Comcast....who owns NBC

Nah, I think theres a few reasons...

1. It was already scheduled to be a 1pm game that day.

2. Obviously they want to put on a good rivalry game, especially if it has Sidney Crosby in it.

3. Someone mentioned it earlier, as great as it would be, they dont want the first game of the season to be on national TV with tons of empty seats, and the Flyers just arent going to have that. I dont even think they took a hit in ticket sales this season.

[spoon]

They probably want that because Philly has a devoted fanbase, but I'd love to see them playing in front of empty stands.

No

[hanso]

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tD_Q6_EIDlc?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Would this fly in NHL?

[spoon]

Why not? St. Louis prospect there.

[keithy_19]

Devils ink Zajac for 8 years (I'm very happy with the deal and I don't think they overpaid for him) and name Salvador the captain. It's been a few good days.

[razorboy]

icantwaittillsaturdayicantwaittillsaturdayicantwai ttillsaturdayicantwaittillsaturdayicantwaittillsat urdayicantwaittillsaturdayicantwaittillsaturdayica ntwaittillsaturdayicantwaittillsaturdayicantwaitti llsaturday

[cougarjake13]

hey razor what's ur feelings for Saturday ?

[razorboy]

hey razor what's ur feelings for Saturday ?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aBaYVo89mmY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[keithy_19]

hey razor what's ur feelings for Saturday ?

:lol:

[keithy_19]

Hey spoon, I know that we sort of went back and forth about Parise and Kovalchuk. I obviously was joking about downplaying how good of a player Parise is and how he will surely be missed by the team. But based on talent alone, do you think that Parise is much better than Kovy?

I know that you'll agree that Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the game, just like I agree that Parise is also one of the best. I really enjoyed how Parise played with a certain passion that allowed him to go into the boards and he was never afraid of getting in front of the net. But I saw Kovalchuk change his game last year into a kind of player that would do all the dirty work as well. I'm not sure it's a monumental difference based on talent alone. Obviously having two premier players on your team is better than just having one, but do you really think Parise is much better than Kovalchuk?

[cougarjake13]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aBaYVo89mmY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



I was hoping u wuld go where I was leading ya

[keithy_19]

I was hoping u wuld go where I was leading ya

I like when people work together to make magic.

[newport king]

Saw a commercial for philly/pitt game saturday. Said philly is looking to avenge last years playoff loss. Philly beat pitt. Way to go nbc.

[keithy_19]

Saw a commercial for philly/pitt game saturday. Said philly is looking to avenge last years playoff loss. Philly beat pitt. Way to go nbc.

Well, they did get it handed to them by the Devils. Maybe NBC meant they were trying to avenge that loss rather than the Pitt series. Still, it's a shitty promo.

[spoon]

Hey spoon, I know that we sort of went back and forth about Parise and Kovalchuk. I obviously was joking about downplaying how good of a player Parise is and how he will surely be missed by the team. But based on talent alone, do you think that Parise is much better than Kovy?

I know that you'll agree that Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the game, just like I agree that Parise is also one of the best. I really enjoyed how Parise played with a certain passion that allowed him to go into the boards and he was never afraid of getting in front of the net. But I saw Kovalchuk change his game last year into a kind of player that would do all the dirty work as well. I'm not sure it's a monumental difference based on talent alone. Obviously having two premier players on your team is better than just having one, but do you really think Parise is much better than Kovalchuk?

Kovy is a shooter with size that rarely uses it but for offense and his shot is unreal, yet his d is suspect to say the least. Last year was a nice change for him in the playoffs, hence the reason he finally had some success there. The loss of parise is huge, but Salvador getting the c helps set the tone for NJ. Still, the o will be led by Kovy and he'll put up fine numbers I'm sure. Just like the old days in Atlanta, yet similar totals in the win column too. Henrique will be key here, as someone needs to pick up the grit, leadership slack.

[spoon]

Well, they did get it handed to them by the Devils. Maybe NBC meant they were trying to avenge that loss rather than the Pitt series. Still, it's a shitty promo.

You're a shitty promo.

[keithy_19]

You're a shitty promo.

Nonsense. No one in their right mind would take me to prom. Wait...

I agree with you with Kovy. He has one of the best shots, if not the best, in the game. His defense has been a problem but he bought into the Devils philosophy last year and was still able to be a leader in points in the league. Another year into the system will make him even better. The forechecking that Deboar has them buying into has really done wonders. Having guys like Lemaire still affiliated with the team and sure, we lost Larry Robinson which sucks (I wish him the best though and no hard feelings) but we have another hall of famer in Scott Stevens who will fill the void. I don't expect the cup this year, but I think the team will do fine.

We've got a lot of young players ready to break through. Hnerique's last year was only a glimpse. My God the poise that kid has. Josefsonn will be better. Larsson will be one of the best defenseman in the league by the time he's done (I see a hybrid of Lidstrom and Niedermayer, though that might be wishful thinking. I still say he was the best pick available long term in that draft.).

My main concern is goal tending, but I am confident for the two years that Brodeur has left. The franchise owes it to the guy and he will put up good stats. He won't win a Vezina but he won't be why the Devils lose.

[NickyL0885]

My team won't be relevant again until Brooklyn. But I shall still enjoy the games.

[MHasegawa]

I don't care if Edmonton runs the table and wins their 7th (yeah, fuck carolina. that cup from '05 should be ours) cup, I'm not watching a single game this season, possible next year too. I want this heeb kykeburger ousted as commish and flogged in public.

[A.J.]

(yeah, fuck carolina. that cup from '05 should be ours) .

It should be Hartford's.

[hanso]

Panthers sign Kulikov, that was cutting it close

[spoon]

Nonsense. No one in their right mind would take me to prom. Wait...

I agree with you with Kovy. He has one of the best shots, if not the best, in the game. Stamkos/CrosbyHis defense has been a problem but he bought into the Devils philosophy last year and was still able to be a leader in points in the league. Another year into the system will make him even better. The forechecking that Deboar has them buying into has really done wonders. Having guys like Lemaire still affiliated with the team and sure, we lost Larry Robinson which sucks (I wish him the best though and no hard feelings) but we have another hall of famer in Scott Stevens who will fill the void. I don't expect the cup this year, but I think the team will do fine.

Well he may or may not have bought in, but the fact remains he'll garner a WHOLE lot more top D/shutdown line coverage this year without Parise to spread that out. It's a matter of being the main guy much more on an island this season versus last year with the spread. Z and Henrique will have more pressure this year to step up offensively and health obviously comes in with Zajac. Yah I know it's not concussion, groin or knee related which is good, but he missed a whole lot of time for a young guy last season...some might add a lost season in terms of development. I like him too, but not sure how much you can put on him.

We've got a lot of young players ready to break through. Hnerique's last year was only a glimpse. My God the poise that kid has. Josefsonn will be better. Larsson will be one of the best defenseman in the league by the time he's done (I see a hybrid of Lidstrom and Niedermayer, though that might be wishful thinking. I still say he was the best pick available long term in that draft.).

Surprisingly this is true on the young players. I'm kind of shocked how many above average players the Devs are pumping out with lesser draft picks outside of two years back (Larsson year). Still, they have plenty to show in bigger roles on the team, and guys like Parise and Salvador help kids fit in and play smart with less pressure. They do a LOT off the ice and in the locker room too with these guys, and losing Parise hurts here too.

As for Larsson, I like him a lot too and D take time...even the best of the best. Yet putting him as a combo of two of the GREATEST ever after one season in which he clearly had struggles with the speed, size and physicality of the North American game is a big leap. I love the premise of what he can be, but even in a lesser role last year he had issues. Soon enough he'll be a top pairing guy with some decent O upside, but not top level points. His stretch/outlet pass impressed me the most last season, but he played small for his size. This is just part of playing in the best league in the world in a very tough position with little margin of error as a kid. NJ was in a playoff race and had little time to risk him in tough spots as a kid amongst men. You can do that on the wing much easier, but with time the guy will keep getting better and better. Calling him THE BEST in a crazy deep draft is aggressive to say the least. To me, RNH will be the best scorer, Larsson will be the best overall D man and Landeskog will be the best power forward/leader. All different and needed positions for every team. Yet I wonder if RNH will stay healthy if he doesn't put on some size/weight. He's one year in and already lost a quarter of a season. To me, Colorado and NJ got what they needed most. Edmonton just added another kid with scoring potential with yet another high draft pick. A few will surely light it up, but they are severely in need of some D and a goalie if Dubnyk doesn't pan out (not holding my breath).

My main concern is goal tending, but I am confident for the two years that Brodeur has left. The franchise owes it to the guy and he will put up good stats. He won't win a Vezina but he won't be why the Devils lose.
He's still solid, but they sure as shit better use their backup more. There are soooo many back to backs, yet one could argue the east teams have very little travel so who knows. It may actually help Marty with his age in mind, but they HAVE to utilize their backup more and keep him healthy for any shot in the playoffs. I almost always comes down to goaltending in the playoffs. Outside of the Philly/Pitt series that was just fucking putrid (notice they both got knocked out bc of it), most series were d/GT centric.


in red

[spoon]

My team won't be relevant again until Brooklyn. But I shall still enjoy the games.

I think you may be surprised. I'm not talking a Cup run, but surely in the playoff hunt for a while and may even slip in.

[spoon]

I don't care if Edmonton runs the table and wins their 7th (yeah, fuck carolina. that cup from '05 should be ours) cup, I'm not watching a single game this season, possible next year too. I want this heeb kykeburger ousted as commish and flogged in public.

go after the guy sure, not his background buddy...ouch

and the players surely got fleeced to me, but business is just business at this point in sports and I just come to realize/accept that every sport will go through this bullshit every 5-8 years. Last year it was NBA and NFL, we lost seasons in MLB and the NHL...it sucks but it's part of the landscape of sports for the foreseeable future with all this money to be fought over.

[spoon]

It should be Hartford's.

yah but I do see his point with Rolo getting taken out and it was bs

he was on fucking fire only to be lost in game 1

after that, it was over for the first 8 seed finalist in NHL history

[keithy_19]

in red

I may have overstated my opinion of Larsson, but I think that despite going through a bit of a learning curve, he'll be a really special player. I also think that it's rare to get a really talented defenseman.

[spoon]

I may have overstated my opinion of Larsson, but I think that despite going through a bit of a learning curve, he'll be a really special player. I also think that it's rare to get a really talented defenseman.

especially that late in the draft, as 4th for the top D in the draft is late to me and the devs won the lottery just to be there too...but Lou still screwed the kid in a big way

later on in the kid's career I bet he has little loyalty once he realizes he fell for a bullshit take on a team that never drafted so early in the past. kid got screwed

[MHasegawa]

go after the guy sure, not his background buddy...ouch

and the players surely got fleeced to me, but business is just business at this point in sports and I just come to realize/accept that every sport will go through this bullshit every 5-8 years. Last year it was NBA and NFL, we lost seasons in MLB and the NHL...it sucks but it's part of the landscape of sports for the foreseeable future with all this money to be fought over.

Yeah what the hell is wrong with me? Why would I say that? I'm not an anti-semite...last i checked.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah what the hell is wrong with me? Why would I say that? I'm not an anti-semite...last i checked.



anger?

jack Daniels ?

[spoon]

anger?

jack Daniels ?

it's just manny's wrestling persona

he hates all religion

[razorboy]

Nothing says the NHL is back like seizure inducing electronic thunder sticks.

[spoon]

it was pretty cool

and it's LA

[spoon]

looks like Philly still doesn't have a goalie

time to look into a move and buy out his contract come next season with the new deal?

you HAVE to think about it

he sucked in the NHL last season, especially the playoffs...followed it up with an awful half year at home in the KHL and now he's allowed 2 goals 8 minutes into the first game of the year here. that contract looks AWFUL right now, and it seems Philly will NEVER have a great goalie.

[spoon]

i really don't want to leave the house today

man I'm a happy soul to get hockey back for my bday weekend!

[razorboy]

Even if they waited wouldn't Bryzgalov's buyout still be like 25 million over fourteen years? I know the Flyers throw cash around, but then what? Take on another retarded retirement contract in Luongo? I hope Bryzgalov sends Dave Tippett a really nice birthday gift every year.

[disneyspy]

i was hoping this thread would be alive today,THANK GOD HOCKEYS BACK!

just watched a shitty first period of the shitty blackhawks game and I FUCKING LOVED IT!

[spoon]

as long as I'm here, this thread will live

ps. fuck detroit

can't wait to see that new defense minus two big names and how that effects Howard

[spoon]

Even if they waited wouldn't Bryzgalov's buyout still be like 25 million over fourteen years? I know the Flyers throw cash around, but then what? Take on another retarded retirement contract in Luongo? I hope Bryzgalov sends Dave Tippett a really nice birthday gift every year.

philly can definitely handle it, and they have a team ready now so if they want a true chance they HAVE TO HAVE a better goalie

if Vanc can't move Luongo, which honestly I think they will, I would have to think they need to buy him out too

they simply won't be able to survive/keep key position players with him on the bench collecting that salary with the cap falling next season.

[spoon]

with the redden and gomez buyout rule change, does this allow for other teams to do the same THIS year for one player too!? I would assume most teams would want this option and it would only be fair to them and the players stuck in an NHL that changed AFTER their contract was signed with the new agreement and finance/cap structuring?

serious question too, as I'm not sure

bc if it is the case, don't be surprised if some players aren't cut after a few days into the season...and Luongo and Bryz have to be two leading candidates too. Yet the Gomez/Redden rule tweak might have somehow been a one off situation.

[disneyspy]

i hope the avalanche live up to their name again this season and start at the top and fall to the bottom

[spoon]

eh, last season saw some great development for the youngest team in the NHL

I'm happy with it all except Sacco being held on as HC. It makes more sense now due to the long cba debacle, as coming in with a known entity on and off the ice helps, yet it's still Sucko's system and bullshit takes on players.

[newport king]

The amount of sports teams using that white stripes chant is starting to be enraging.

[newport king]

Brodeur has played fat tonight. Well. I meant well. And just as i typed this Hamonic ties it. Fat.

[razorboy]

So yeah Spy, about your Wings...

Eight SOG seven minutes into the third.

Quincey looks brutal.

Revisiting that trade, the Avs got Downie, the Bolts got Vasilevski and the Wings got screwed.

[spoon]

The amount of sports teams using that white stripes chant is starting to be enraging.

it's amazing to me how unoriginal teams are with music in all sports

[spoon]

so undisciplined for Colorado today

7 pps and over 20 mins of penalties

Succo is still the HC...how?



and Dspy, how'd that Detroit D/GT go today against offensive light St. Louis?

hahahahahaha!

[razorboy]

Now Schneider is getting lit the fuck up. Maybe the Canucks better hang on to resident whipping boy Luongo.

[razorboy]

And Schneider pulled.:lol:

[spoon]

and now we're down to one coach left I need fired

please shit can Sacco soon, before another season is lost

[hanso]

in red

Panthers opened on fire new rookie Jonathan Huberdeau scored early had some assists also

5-1 over Caines

[razorboy]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484748_4140852769655_1319036021_n.jpg

[keithy_19]

Devils!

[spoon]

Wow! Great work by the org and quick acting fan! Bravo times 2

[keithy_19]

Wow! By the team and quick acting can! Bravo times 2

I'm confused. And drunk.

[spoon]

Fixed it. Damn iphone

[keithy_19]

Fixed it. Damn iphone

I'm still confused. I use an old awful phone that isn't smart at all. But the Devils won, and I'm happy.

1-0!

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Now Schneider is getting lit the fuck up. Maybe the Canucks better hang on to resident whipping boy Luongo.

With the schedule the way it is, the Canucks are better off keeping both of them this season and trying to ditch Luongo during the summer. I think teams with 2 quality goaltenders have the advantage for the shortened season.

[cougarjake13]

as long as I'm here, this thread will live

ps. fuck detroit

can't wait to see that new defense minus two big names and how that effects Howard




there's plenty of hockey nuts on here that post a lot

spoon, Keithy, myself, dspy, mudo, Nicky, Newport, bad monkey and hasagawa to name a few

[spoon]

nope

nobody cares

:wacko:

[cougarjake13]

fuck em then

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I know its only 2 games but boy do the Rangers blow

[spoon]

I know its only 2 games but boy do the Rangers blow

which means front running Kevin won't be rooting them on!

he only shows up when they win dammit!

[spoon]

and they'll be fine by the way

[ihaveabadmonkey]

and they'll be fine by the way

i know they will. it's just fun to shit talk them. Chris Kreider got destroyed by Brooks Orpik with a great open ice hit.

[spoon]

always loved Orpik's game, as that role isn't the easiest to fill in this era of the NHL...especially those who can lay people out clean and or clean enough to not draw pens given out way too easily now

[NickyL0885]

It's only been 1 game, but from what I saw, the Islanders have already been eliminated from playoff contention.

[cougarjake13]

It's only been 1 game, but from what I saw, the Islanders have already been eliminated from playoff contention.


hahahah

[spoon]

nice

avs right behind them

trade ya Duchene for Tavares?

(side note, Isle up 3-0 on TB as we speak)

[NickyL0885]

nice

avs right behind them

trade ya Duchene for Tavares?

(side note, Isle up 3-0 on TB as we speak)

Never! JT is untouchable!

And my Isles are 20 minutes away from having a better record than the Rangers. Hey, I'll gloat while I can.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I know it's only 2 games in but the bruins are filling my heart with so much hockey love.

[spoon]

Rask is sick and let's be honest, they have been solid for years now.

[keithy_19]

Devils with an awesome win tonight against the Flyers. And 120 for Marty. Not too shabby.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

suck it Kings, you and your Stanley Cup

[NickyL0885]

Isles prospect Nino Niederreiter is butt hurt he is not up with the team, and has demanded a trade. 20 years old, plays a game for a living, and he's acting like a baby.

[spoon]

Isles prospect Nino Niederreiter is butt hurt he is not up with the team, and has demanded a trade. 20 years old, plays a game for a living, and he's acting like a baby.

yah that's fucking over the top to say the least for a guy who already got more than a cup of coffee in the NHL and only managed 1 goal and a -29 in 55 games. so keep your mouth shut asshole and work on your game first if you want to stick. the isle would be dumb right now to just move you up, especially if he hasn't improved overall at a time one usually does work hard to do so and understands his place.

dumb move swiss miss el nino

[razorboy]

Tarasenko is getting a lion's share of the attention among the rookies in the league and with good reason, but Conacher has impressed the hell out of me. I watched him a lot with Norfolk last season and figured his game would translate well, but I don't know if I expected him to fit in so seamlessly on Tampa Bay's top two lines and look so natural in doing so.

[Jayw]

Blues baby. Its our year.

I still have nightmares from the playoff game I went to last year when the kings scored 3 on us in the first fucking period. Amazing seats too. Fucking sucked.

[Jayw]

Not to mention they scored about 1 minute into the game.

[spoon]

Blues baby. Its our year.

I still have nightmares from the playoff game I went to last year when the kings scored 3 on us in the first fucking period. Amazing seats too. Fucking sucked.

honestly, I think they are surely going to be one, if not the best team in the West

Chicago is going to be tough as hell too if their goalie shows up

my division doesn't have real true threats to the Cup unless they go nuts and get a very hot goalie

and I can't see LA doing the same as last year, the sharks always bow out early and I just can't see Minny making THAT much progress in one extended off season even with those additions

the east however, TONS of top line teams

[razorboy]

I think Krueger has run out of ideas. Quack quack.

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nhl/blog/012413_flyingv.jpg

[NickyL0885]

Break up the Isles! 7 goals tonight.

[spoon]

I think Krueger has run out of ideas. Quack quack.

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nhl/blog/012413_flyingv.jpg

they have used WAY too much of their top picks on forwards

they have huge holes on D and in net

yet that pic is hilarious

[spoon]

Break up the Isles! 7 goals tonight.

after being down 3-1 at the end of the first too!

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Break up the Isles! 7 goals tonight.

They used up their weekly goal allotment in one game.

[mdr55]

Go Sens Go!

[hanso]

Break up the Isles! 7 goals tonight.

I see they have the same lousy record as my Panthers

Go Sens Go!

At 0-3?

[keithy_19]

3-0 start for the Devils, I'll take it. Some undisciplined play in this game but they finished it which is what matters.

[newport king]

Zidlicky kills me on defense

[keithy_19]

Zidlicky kills me on defense

I'll take his offense though. His pass to Kovy was really good and he has an awesome shot.

[Jayw]

whatever i just opened up the seal from 4square. Ya you know me, guess what im back bitch. same cold ass nigga you knew, hopefully

[Jayw]

damn i shouldnt of done that. lol

[Jayw]

ya i got a fucking problem,

ya its a fucking problem

[cougarjake13]

they have meetings for it ya know

[spoon]

Yah it's called gay camp.

[razorboy]

Embarrassingly bad call in the Columbus/Chicago game tonight.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Rs4p3GgyE24" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[spoon]

Yah real bad. Landeskog took a hit to the head by asshole ex wing stuart and the avs defended him. Tons of bs instigator/ visor pens on colorado and it changed the game. Fucking HATE The instigator rule.

[keithy_19]

Rangers sign Arnott. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=652619&navid=nhl:topheads)

I like this for the Rangers. Arnott is a good player and a leader.

[newport king]

He always seems to be in the finals...good move for ny

[spoon]

He always seems to be in the finals...good move for ny

yah I like the move and low risk too

Avs got a wake up call yesterday too, as not every team will be weak like Columbus...SJ looks big and tough. They won't get far in the end bc some highly skilled team always takes them out, but it's very hard to out muscle/work them with their grit and talented big forwards.

All in all though, Marleau got two but did nothing special in the game. He was just on a HIGHLY efficient pp and pucks bounced to him twice. My grandmother could have buried both so I fully expect his pace to die off in a huge way and not even win the scoring or goal titles. He's a second tier guy at best, not top.

[spoon]

i wish the Avs would sign some cheap/one year depth on wing like Sykora and line up Ryan O'Reilly FINALLY.

I also would have looked long at guys like Redden and Gomez being so fucking cheap coming off of the buyouts. SJ and St. Louis were REALLY sharp jumping on both for little risk and a huge upside in new lesser stress towns/teams. My guess is both will help their teams a lot, and both may very well meet up in the playoffs late, perhaps even the WCFs.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

i wish the Avs would sign some cheap/one year depth on wing like Sykora and line up Ryan O'Reilly FINALLY.

I also would have looked long at guys like Redden and Gomez being so fucking cheap coming off of the buyouts. SJ and St. Louis were REALLY sharp jumping on both for little risk and a huge upside in new lesser stress towns/teams. My guess is both will help their teams a lot, and both may very well meet up in the playoffs late, perhaps even the WCFs.

We are talking about Greg Sherman here. Especially with Downie going down for the season, they are going to need depth scoring.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Rangers sign Arnott. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=652619&navid=nhl:topheads)

I like this for the Rangers. Arnott is a good player and a leader.

Deal is off. Failed his physical.

[spoon]

Deal is off. Failed his physical.

wow, how so?

any link?

[ihaveabadmonkey]

wow, how so?

any link?

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/story/_/id/8888141/source-new-york-rangers-clear-jason-arnott-call-deal

[spoon]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/story/_/id/8888141/source-new-york-rangers-clear-jason-arnott-call-deal

thanks

it's all over now too

Arnott will end up signing somewhere still though. Where? (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=652800&navid=nhl:topheads)

[spoon]

pretty cool

http://blogimages.thescore.com/mlb/files/2013/01/stanmusial.jpg

[spoon]

From the MLB thread and I thought it would be interesting here too...especially for our Islander fans! Sorry boys!

I am just not convinced they like every MLB team, and Commish since lets say early to mid 90s were not well aware he was doing it.

Especially coming off a bad hip.

They would have tried anything if there was a chance for him to even come close to being what he is, the worst contract in the history of Sports.

nah, he's actually hit and done something in the rich MLB on well off financial teams...

I raise you...Alexi Yashin...Bought out in 07, yet still costing them 2 million a year in cap space. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/news/2001/09/05/yashin_islanders_ap/)

Making matters worse looking back, the Islanders not only paid in money for Yashin, but AWESOME players in the end. Yashin, 33, was acquired from the Ottawa Senators in June 2001 for defenseman Zdeno Chara, forward Bill Muckalt and the Islanders' 2001 first-round pick (Jason Spezza was taken)

Great quote from Milbury who sucked since day one there. Oh it got worse!

"When I got here, it was a mess, and it got messier since I've been here. Until Charles and [co-owner] Sanjay [Kumar], there was no investment in terms of personnel or in terms of the building. I don't' blame anyone for not showing up - the last few years, it was hard for me to show up. But now, this team has a good chance to win, and it's been a good summer."

Fucking awful in every way possible.

=======================

Not to be outdone by Milbury & Wang on the Island, Snow & Wang had this gem up for debate as worst contract ever as well. And remember, this the hockey/the Islanders, right before a cap and of course the length with both are hilarious for many reasons. Not to mention Yashin's contract was in 2001, bought out in 2007, AFTER the DiPietro deal. So at one point, they had two of the worst contracts in the history of sports on the same payroll/team! I can't imagine why the Islanders have been so horrid for a long long time.

Rick DiPietro, Islander for 15 years up until 2021! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2584306)

A great finish to all this is Yashin has actually been talking to the Islanders about possibly coming BACK to play there! He's only going to be 40 and is still technically on the payroll, but I see no reason the fans wouldn't just LOVE this idea! Wang, wtf are you thinking...if you ever did.

[spoon]

wow sacco needs to go

just like Norv he should have been gone for years now

[keithy_19]

I was watching the Wild game tonight and I really would like them to miss the playoffs.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

wow sacco needs to go

just like Norv he should have been gone for years now

Man do the Avs blow. I turned the game on midway through the 1st period and for about 5 minutes watched the Avs chase around Vancouver trying to get the puck away from them. It was comical, sad but comical.

[hanso]

Man do the Avs blow. I turned the game on midway through the 1st period and for about 5 minutes watched the Avs chase around Vancouver trying to get the puck away from them. It was comical, sad but comical.

Panthers are about same, season is slipping away