2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread

[spoon]

So Government colluding with big business like insurance and pharma is beneficial?

Wait until there are Doctor shortages . I hope people who support Obamacare get their medical treatment from hospital porters

yes you've mentioned before we are going to see physicians just up and quit for that better life of ? I'm sure they are all just thrilled at all the money, time and hard work they put in to make your stupid point and quit. The only docs that will retire where those hanging on and milking the system anyway. There has been a shortage of docs in certain areas and disciplines forever, but not bc of your take, bc it's a HUGE commitment to become a physician. Also you don't just sign up for it like a spinning or cooking class, you actually have to qualify based on some very rigid standards and testing.

[spoon]

If you knew jack shit about the health care industry you'd understand why older physicians are retiring & generally what type of doctors they are.

The majority of projected retires are 60+. They are generally family practice doctors. They cite two things: implementation of electronic medical records & ICD-10.

This means that medical schools need to readjust their focus from producing too many specialists to directing students into primary care.

Of course you wouldn't know that, as that would involve comprehending more than you've heard from Fox fucking News.

This is true as well. I know plenty of physicians who claim they are not interested in switching over to EMR and moving from ICD-9 to 10. They were as I stated, hanging on and they do NOT care enough at this point to stay current at such an investment of time, hours and frankly money at time with the EMR when not done early.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and there you go

this guy isn't egotistical at all, being he's so humble and never had his ass licked like OBAMA! therefore all Obama's policy, garbage!

oh wf!


Like Obama is an example of humility. Carson had a rougher childhood that the president did but he didnt lash out against society.

I don't buy that argument that he was an affirmative action case. He is good at what he does.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes you've mentioned before we are going to see physicians just up and quit for that better life of ? I'm sure they are all just thrilled at all the money, time and hard work they put in to make your stupid point and quit. The only docs that will retire where those hanging on and milking the system anyway. There has been a shortage of docs in certain areas and disciplines forever, but not bc of your take, bc it's a HUGE commitment to become a physician. Also you don't just sign up for it like a spinning or cooking class, you actually have to qualify based on some very rigid standards and testing.

Yea like spinning instructors need to take a residency and be on call 24/7.

Great example.


How are you going to add 30 million people to the roles and then add another 20 million people when amnesty is given without having shortages and wait times.


Look at the clusterfuck all these federal schemes turned to. Hell the great society was passed 47 years ago and the poverty rate did not dwindle into single digits after trillions of money sucked into it.

[spoon]

If you understood analysis and stop parroting the same old bullshit like Fox news you would see that it's not just boomer doctors who will bow out. Others won't participate in exchanges or sign on.


The goal is single payer. It just might happen. Do you think Docs will want to become government employees ? Also why would people rack up hundreds of thousands of debt ?


It's people like you who should be calling Obama a sellout for not pushing single payer or at least a public option

He should have kept the single payer/public option, but that would have made you happy since it would have unfortunately killed any change. I wish it was there, but he had to comp just to get this. Your use of parroting and analysis is so fucking funny being it's literally you parroting shit said to and about YOU! You can't be for real. I finally figured it out, you're FM Jeff REALLY BORED and fucking with us all...right!? :unsure: :laugh:

Seriously, you can't be this idiotic.

[spoon]

I hope the president doesn't have Carson taken out via drone

sigh

:wallbash:


me too, WF

me too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

great logic, we should only have physicians in charge at every level, higher if you become a skilled surgeon, just the way our country was drawn up...great point, what is Obama doing there!

Even if it was some hypothetical matter of doctors at every level, It's better than lawyers and government workers at those levels.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He should have kept the single payer/public option, but that would have made you happy since it would have unfortunately killed any change. I wish it was there, but he had to comp just to get this. Your use of parroting and analysis is so fucking funny being it's literally you parroting shit said to and about YOU! You can't be for real. I finally figured it out, you're FM Jeff REALLY BORED and fucking with us all...right!? :unsure: :laugh:

Seriously, you can't be this idiotic.

None of what was devised would have made me a supporter of it.


The bill as it is, sucks a big one. Big business partnering with big government is a pitry dish of waste

[spoon]

Like Obama is an example of humility. Carson had a rougher childhood that the president did but he didnt lash out against society.

I don't buy that argument that he was an affirmative action case. He is good at what he does.

so my argument has ANYTHING to do with Carson's childhood, much less a stupid comparison of whose was tougher?! or if Carson is an affirmative action case?!

Ok wf, keep talking to yourself idiot.

[spoon]

Yea like spinning instructors need to take a residency and be on call 24/7.

Great example.




You need to read...or fucking do it better. 5th grade comprehension won't get it done big guy!

Wow! Try that one again idiot. Sound out the words and see the example and what it really was. You only make my points louder/bolder.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so my argument has ANYTHING to do with Carson's childhood, much less a stupid comparison of whose was tougher?! or if Carson is an affirmative action case?!

Ok wf, keep talking to yourself idiot.

How dare Carson. Where does that uppity uncle Tom get off lecturing a community organizer on medicine and healthcare

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You need to read...or fucking do it better. 5th grade comprehension won't get it done big guy!

Wow! Try that one again idiot. Sound out the words and see the example and what it really was. You only make my points louder/bolder.

Your points carry no weight.


Docs will find other ways to continue their practices like starting and or working in doctor owned hospitals. Thats something else the administration is targeting.

[spoon]

How are you going to add 30 million people to the roles and then add another 20 million people when amnesty is given without having shortages and wait times.




Sooooo, your concern is that we won't be able to sustain care for those without it due to a numbers game, so fuck them?! Come on idiot, you can't be that dumb and heartless. Also, they are being cared for at an exponentially higher cost and killing our ER's purpose and the true patients that need it. They are being cared for, just at the wrong place, with the wrong doctors at the extremely high wrong price.

But you're right, fuck millions of people bc the fucking docs might have to see some more patients and kill their Monday afternoon, Wednesday and Friday afternoon off every week and see more patients IF THEY WANT. I thought a supply and demand fool like yourself would see more patients as a HUGE opportunity to attack more to medicine and or other smart talented people from around the world to come here? No, bc I'm told their systems are much worse than ours and I'd assume they'd LOVE to practice here and bring an INFLUX of talent, HCPs and money to our country via testing, schools and private/SMALL business too!?

[spoon]

Even if it was some hypothetical matter of doctors at every level, It's better than lawyers and government workers at those levels.

no

it's supposed to be a cross section of our fucking country as a whole, not some elite party in DC that it has become of the upper crust in financial terms

but once again, spinning off topic WF...again

[spoon]

None of what was devised would have made me a supporter of it.


The bill as it is, sucks a big one. Big business partnering with big government is a pitry dish of waste

what's a pitry dish? much less a "pitry dish of waste"? WTF does that even mean pseudo scientist/enlightened one?!

bc it's NOT this

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KpqQ9rqe9aQ/TAOZUDn2l8I/AAAAAAAAGco/asiUwRfkYBI/s1600/petri_dish_large.jpg

you scientific wiz you wf! Wizfraud?

Richard Julius Petri took us from soup cultures and bell jars covering agar, to the PETRI dish.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sooooo, your concern is that we won't be able to sustain care for those without it due to a numbers game, so fuck them?! Come on idiot, you can't be that dumb and heartless. Also, they are being cared for at an exponentially higher cost and killing our ER's purpose and the true patients that need it. They are being cared for, just at the wrong place, with the wrong doctors at the extremely high wrong price.

But you're right, fuck millions of people bc the fucking docs might have to see some more patients and kill their Monday afternoon, Wednesday and Friday afternoon off every week and see more patients IF THEY WANT. I thought a supply and demand fool like yourself would see more patients as a HUGE opportunity to attack more to medicine and or other smart talented people from around the world to come here? No, bc I'm told their systems are much worse than ours and I'd assume they'd LOVE to practice here and bring an INFLUX of talent, HCPs and money to our country via testing, schools and private/SMALL business too!?

Did anyone say let someone die on the street? You are really out there. Yes supply and demand. Adding 50 million plus people is going to put a strain and hinder science and innovation.

What you will end up getting is more doctors from India and other developing countries. There could be waivers for them that they would not have to be retrained/certified because ther are going to be all these people added to the system.

For the existing doctors. What if they DON'T want to see more people?

[spoon]

How dare Carson. Where does that uppity uncle Tom get off lecturing a community organizer on medicine and healthcare

yep, nothing at all to do with the stupid points I argued against with what you wrote

SWING and a miss

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no

it's supposed to be a cross section of our fucking country as a whole, not some elite party in DC that it has become of the upper crust in financial terms

but once again, spinning off topic WF...again

Yes, and that cross section includes economic illiterates like Pelosi, Schumer, McCain and others who have been on the dole for decades.

[spoon]

Your points carry no weight.


Docs will find other ways to continue their practices like starting and or working in doctor owned hospitals. Thats something else the administration is targeting.

doctor owned hospitals and other ways you say?

so which is it WF, doc shortage or other ways?!

what do I need to fear and stick with your points not deviate all over the fucking place



oh and nice side step of your IDIOTIC reading comprehension...now it's my point isn't solid...got it! HA!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

doctor owned hospitals and other ways you say?

so which is it WF, doc shortage or other ways?!

what do I need to fear and stick with your points not deviate all over the fucking place



oh and nice side step of your IDIOTIC reading comprehension...now it's my point isn't solid...got it! HA!

If it really turns to shit, you should fear a witch doctor or tribal medicine man being your primary caregiver or surgeon.

[spoon]

Did anyone say let someone die on the street? You are really out there. Yes supply and demand. Adding 50 million plus people is going to put a strain and hinder science and innovation.

What you will end up getting is more doctors from India and other developing countries. There could be waivers for them that they would not have to be retrained/certified because ther are going to be all these people added to the system.

For the existing doctors. What if they DON'T want to see more people?

That's stupid, purely idiotic. They are being treated now in very inefficient and costly ways by guess what, health care professionals (docs/nurses/pa's/np's and the rest) at the hospitals/ERs/urgent cars centers and more. There is NO logic at ALL to your strain and hindering of science and innovation, as more patients aren't going to be roaming the labs of pharm and medical devise companies. They won't be taking grant and financial support from the universities and patient advocacy groups dedicated to research like the M J Fox with Parkinson's or the NMSS with MS! You have no, zero basis to that STUPID claim. If anything, it adds more of a base for clinical studies FOR innovative therapies, gene research/biomarkers and so much more. You literally are underwater and kicking your last kicks of life. I can't even take you seriously with your fear and bullshit arguments you obviously are regurgitating left and right. I guess it's me that just parroted the above too right? Unreal levels of idiocy here WF...you're hilarious. And I covered the docs that don't want the see more pats, the don't have to and won't. Simple.

[spoon]

Yes, and that cross section includes economic illiterates like Pelosi, Schumer, McCain and others who have been on the dole for decades.

of course WF, not the argument again

but sure, most in gov are idiots like yourself in either wing of either party

it's unfortunate, but the case

now come on back to the discussion and sound stupid some more

how about it!?

:devil2:

[spoon]

If it really turns to shit, you should fear a witch doctor or tribal medicine man being your primary caregiver or surgeon.

yes, tribal medicine man

perfect



you have so many issues and live in fear of some future idiotic landscape drawn up in your head by what you take in from the idiots you repeat daily

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's stupid, purely idiotic. They are being treated now in very inefficient and costly ways by guess what, health care professionals (docs/nurses/pa's/np's and the rest) at the hospitals/ERs/urgent cars centers and more. There is NO logic at ALL to your strain and hindering of science and innovation, as more patients aren't going to be roaming the labs of pharm and medical devise companies. They won't be taking grant and financial support from the universities and patient advocacy groups dedicated to research like the M J Fox with Parkinson's or the NMSS with MS! You have no, zero basis to that STUPID claim. If anything, it adds more of a base for clinical studies FOR innovative therapies, gene research/biomarkers and so much more. You literally are underwater and kicking your last kicks of life. I can't even take you seriously with your fear and bullshit arguments you obviously are regurgitating left and right. I guess it's me that just parroted the above too right? Unreal levels of idiocy here WF...you're hilarious. And I covered the docs that don't want the see more pats, the don't have to and won't. Simple.

I have history on my side and the unintended and intended consequences of all these government schemes from Social Security to Medicare/aid


Obamacare will be that new failed experiment, when theres not enough funding, not enough taxes and fees to keep it sustainable.


I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that Obamacare will be beneficial when tens of trillions have been thrown at programs and the unfunded liabilities needed to keep them going.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, tribal medicine man

perfect



you have so many issues and live in fear of some future idiotic landscape drawn up in your head by what you take in from the idiots you repeat daily

I take issue with politicians who applaud themselves for devising new ways to fuck me

[spoon]

I have history on my side and the unintended and intended consequences of all these government schemes from Social Security to Medicare/aid


Obamacare will be that new failed experiment, when theres not enough funding, not enough taxes and fees to keep it sustainable.


I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that Obamacare will be beneficial when tens of trillions have been thrown at programs and the unfunded liabilities needed to keep them going.

and your first idiotically LOADED statement in this post just adds to the plethora of reasons NOBODY should take you seriously

[spoon]

the health care act Obama got through has PLENTY of holes, but it's a start

we need to revise a whole lot more of the medical industry, but you'd have it be what WF?

status quo, or what?

I'm just interested to hear "your take" on this debacle bc even YOU can't think our system currently is just fine as is with only minor tweaks at best?

[spoon]

I take issue with politicians who applaud themselves for devising new ways to fuck me

seriously you should thank them

it's the only action your Schneider meets Alomar ass is going to get

:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and your first idiotically LOADED statement in this post just adds to the plethora of reasons NOBODY should take you seriously

I'd have a better chance getting a doorknob to understand.

Have faith in your government that can't run a railroad or postal system.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

seriously you should thank them

it's the only action your Schneider meets Alomar ass is going to get

:lol:

Why should I thank them? They didn't buy me dinner.

[spoon]

I have history on my side and the unintended and intended consequences of all these government schemes from Social Security to Medicare/aid


Obamacare will be that new failed experiment, when theres not enough funding, not enough taxes and fees to keep it sustainable.


I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that Obamacare will be beneficial when tens of trillions have been thrown at programs and the unfunded liabilities needed to keep them going.

WF with history on his side...or behind him anyway!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/08/12/books/review/pc-richard-toye/pc-richard-toye-articleInline.jpg



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[WRESTLINGFAN]

WF with history on his side...or behind him anyway!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/08/12/books/review/pc-richard-toye/pc-richard-toye-articleInline.jpg



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There should be flies on his face he attracts them like manure

[spoon]

subtle :wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What was worse for Rubio?

The sweating or dry mouth ?

[epo]

What was worse for Rubio?

The sweating or dry mouth ?

The camera angle showing his shifting hairline?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not impressed with the SOTU speech. The economy is tepid at best. It sounded like all his other ones just shuffled around and offers nothing for a true recovery

Rubio was subpar also , not just in style .

[hanso]

Not impressed with the SOTU speech. The economy is tepid at best. It sounded like all his other ones just shuffled around and offers nothing for a true recovery

Rubio was subpar also , not just in style .

No review of Paul? You used to talk him up. Or was that just his dad?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No review of Paul? You used to talk him up. Or was that just his dad?

Rubio's was the official response. Paul's was online. He actually was better than Rubio especially when mentioning Adam Smith and Montesquieu.

Nobody seems to care about that. Its all about drymouth , water and a lame rebuttal by Rubio

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Opposite party response didnt start until the 60's and are really not needed. Plus it's not required. The SOTU is, as directed by the constitution.

Also, it's in a room with no audience and usually are flops, examples are Jindal Rubio and a certain Governor from Arkansas who eventually became president. I don't think the viewership of the reply is as much as the SOTU speech. I would presume that viewership drops by at least 1/3.


I saw that the ratings for the SOTU were at it's lowest since 2000

[hanso]

With 58 votes for Hagel the party of get off my lawn filibusters him

[NickyL0885]

With 58 votes for Hagel the party of get off my lawn filibusters him

The 3 senators that worked with him, are the ones that are blocking him. It's like....."oh no, he's got Obama's cooties on him! Ewwww. No vote!"

[epo]

With 58 votes for Hagel the party of get off my lawn filibusters him

The GOP has clue what kind of precedent they've just set.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Graham and McCain are show boaters.

I think they are still stuck on Benghazi.

The Senate blows. Then again this is the same body that hasn't passed a budget in years

[hanso]

Graham and McCain are show boaters.

I think they are still stuck on Benghazi.

The Senate blows. Then again this is the same body that hasn't passed a budget in years

They need the debt ceiling lifted first right?

Hannity: Unprecedented filibuster of Hagel is ‘a big win’ for Republicans

The Fox News host congratulated Republicans for successfully using a filibuster to temporarily block a president’s nominee for secretary of defense.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jesse Jackson Jr. Admits to misuse of funds will most likely face 4-5 years

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They need the debt ceiling lifted first right?

Hannity: Unprecedented filibuster of Hagel is ‘a big win’ for Republicans

The Fox News host congratulated Republicans for successfully using a filibuster to temporarily block a president’s nominee for secretary of defense.


Is the Senate in recess ? Obama can do an end around

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I can't believe this more waste and abuse.







http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323511804578296001368122888.html?m od=ITP_pageone_0

[spoon]

I can't believe this more waste and abuse.







http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323511804578296001368122888.html?m od=ITP_pageone_0

Abuse and frauded by big business that was found out and fixed by the fcc. Got it.

[Syd]

Neoliberalism 101: why let taxes not get funneled toward private profits?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Abuse and frauded by big business that was found out and fixed by the fcc. Got it.



Bingo !!!


Big business working in concert with big government

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Neoliberalism 101: why let taxes not get funneled toward private profits?



Private profits enabled by crony capitalism

[Syd]

Private profits enabled by crony capitalism

it's the natural evolution for the free market -- society wasn't too interested in allowing monopolies to happen. Debs and others fought hard to create (something like) the Sherman Antitrust Act and Teddy Roosevelt finished off everything else. Once government prevented monopolies, the market sought to buy government. It started at the tail end of FDR's final term in office with the failure to prevent the nascent health insurance companies that were building hospitals from profiteering off of the public and the final nail in the coffin happened with Citizens United ruling. Now the American government exists to serve companies rather than existing to serve the public.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The free market has not been practiced for about 100 years with the advent of the progressive income tax and federal reserve
Speaking of monopolies why is it virtually impossible for a new American car company to enter the market ? There's collusion btwn the big 3

[Syd]

The free market has not been practiced for about 100 years with the advent of the progressive income tax and federal reserve
Speaking of monopolies why is it virtually impossible for a new American car company to enter the market ? There's collusion btwn the big 3

What's the progressive income tax have to do with the free market? Also, the progressive income tax predated Wealth of Nations and Kapital, so it's hard to say that it has fuck all to do with the free market other than that it's bad because perfect wealth inequality is, again, the natural outcome of a free market (along with monopolies, especially vertical ones which are happening again)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What's the progressive income tax have to do with the free market? Also, the progressive income tax predated Wealth of Nations and Kapital, so it's hard to say that it has fuck all to do with the free market other than that it's bad because perfect wealth inequality is, again, the natural outcome of a free market (along with monopolies, especially vertical ones which are happening again)

Iknow Smith was for the progressive income tax, However everything he proposes shouldn't be gospel. Hayek and Basteat were not for the progressive income tax. In Smith's case he would not be for the progressive income tax to fund all these programs outside the limits of the 18 enumarated powers of congress.

The 16th amendment has created cheats, criminals, deadbeats, bureaucracy, billions of man hours and a quasi army of agents armed to the teeth.


Why do red states receive largesse from blue states? Why are there about 18,000 people and corporations having accounts in the Caymans. During the election cycle Mitt Romney was raked thru the coals but we should look the other way in regards to Jack Lew who will head the treasury dept?

The country was able to finance wars, build infrastructure before 1913, Ever since its been handouts, unnecessary military campaigns and corporate welfare.

[Syd]

Why do red states receive largesse from blue states?

Social welfare programs, because red states are essentially a plutocracy. The reconstruction wasn't because Lincoln was the only one really pushing for it, leaving the landowners as the only ones with money. To make money down there, you had to work for the landowners. There was no widespread industrialization that happened, no resource retrieval, no nothing. The states were, and still are, ruled by the people who had the money and have been writing the rules. The only deviations are just things like Walton marrying into money or things like that, nothing commonplace.

Why are there about 18,000 people and corporations having accounts in the Caymans. During the election cycle Mitt Romney was raked thru the coals but we should look the other way in regards to Jack Lew who will head the treasury dept?

Because Mitt Romney is an archaic fuck that most people expected to go extinct after the S&L crisis. He was Wall Street, and no one likes Wall Street.

The country was able to finance wars, build infrastructure before 1913, Ever since its been handouts, unnecessary military campaigns and corporate welfare.

Different eras. Tariffs and other forms of taxation were sufficient, as well as a lower overall need for infrastructure. Modern cities require massive infrastructure, especially major ports. Sanitary sewage systems, for example, didn't really exist until relatively modern times. Ditto for water treatment, hospitals and roads. We never needed to subsidize businesses by creating and maintaining the interstate highway system until Eisenhower created it.

The more our economy grows, the more someone has to spend to support it. Ever since Reagan promised us rainbows and happiness, middle and lower class Americans have been more than happy to shoulder the burden.

[spoon]

Bingo !!!


Big business working in concert with big government

Does this happen? Sure as shit. Is that the case here? No Bingo.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Social welfare programs, because red states are essentially a plutocracy. The reconstruction wasn't because Lincoln was the only one really pushing for it, leaving the landowners as the only ones with money. To make money down there, you had to work for the landowners. There was no widespread industrialization that happened, no resource retrieval, no nothing. The states were, and still are, ruled by the people who had the money and have been writing the rules. The only deviations are just things like Walton marrying into money or things like that, nothing commonplace.

It's not just southern states who are red, Many midwestern and big sky states are and theydidnt secede. Want to talk about arhcaeic? Its our tax laws, Tens o thousands of pages and growing every year
Because Mitt Romney is an archaic fuck that most people expected to go extinct after the S&L crisis. He was Wall Street, and no one likes Wall Street.

And Barack Obama with his inner circle aren't Wall Street? Alert. Wall Street loves Democrats too. Barack Obama is a whore to the banks.

Different eras. Tariffs and other forms of taxation were sufficient, as well as a lower overall need for infrastructure. Modern cities require massive infrastructure, especially major ports. Sanitary sewage systems, for example, didn't really exist until relatively modern times. Ditto for water treatment, hospitals and roads. We never needed to subsidize businesses by creating and maintaining the interstate highway system until Eisenhower created it.

The more our economy grows, the more someone has to spend to support it. Ever since Reagan promised us rainbows and happiness, middle and lower class Americans have been more than happy to shoulder the burden.

So no matter what expand government and create as many programs outside the limits of the constitution because either theres population growth or a terrorist event.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

POTUS had a golf weekend with Tiger Woods.



Surprised there were no reports of him having 5 holes in 1 like Kim Jong Il had.

[epo]

Report: Obama had a sandwich with mustard.

WrestlingFan now outraged that the President wasted our precious mustard resources with a damned sandwich.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The way this president mismanages money, he would spend $40 for a mustard sandwich then tell everyone that he didnt spend $50 all while saying it's really a cut.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sheila Jackson Lee looks great for someone who is over 150 years old



http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/282825-house-dem-on-spending-cuts-were-at-the-bone-almost#ixzz2KnTBs9MA

[A.J.]

Sheila Jackson Lee looks great for someone who is over 150 years old



http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/282825-house-dem-on-spending-cuts-were-at-the-bone-almost#ixzz2KnTBs9MA

I wish an white Rep. would support her as an emancipated indentured servant.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Instead of golf lessons with Butch Harmon, Obama should take courses on basic economics and the constitution

[Syd]

It's not just southern states who are red, Many midwestern and big sky states are and theydidnt secede. Want to talk about arhcaeic? Its our tax laws, Tens o thousands of pages and growing every year

We kick a lot of money into farm subsidies because of the nature of farming and the need for extensive controls to prevent massive swings in food prices. Plus, a lot of states have extensive national parks along with limited gross state product. So they end up receiving $1.xx in aid for every xx cents paid in taxes, but they're not paying all that much in taxes.

And Barack Obama with his inner circle aren't Wall Street? Alert. Wall Street loves Democrats too. Barack Obama is a whore to the banks.

No, they are, but they're new money. They don't look like they were extras in Wall Street.

So no matter what expand government and create as many programs outside the limits of the constitution because either theres population growth or a terrorist event.

What programs are necessarily completely new? Most programs have already existed at some point in some form in the 18th and 19th century, they're just dismantled by capitalists before the population hits a tipping point and revolts via populism. That's the whole point of the welfare state. It isn't about the kindness of the act and preventing people from dying in the streets, it's about keeping people from rising up. America learned that after the anarchists rising up in the post-WWI recession and again with the Bonus Army. Times get bad enough, people start wondering why they let people exploit them.

[spoon]

Instead of golf lessons with Butch Harmon, Obama should take courses on basic economics and the constitution

HEOOOOOH!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We kick a lot of money into farm subsidies because of the nature of farming and the need for extensive controls to prevent massive swings in food prices. Plus, a lot of states have extensive national parks along with limited gross state product. So they end up receiving $1.xx in aid for every xx cents paid in taxes, but they're not paying all that much in taxes.



No, they are, but they're new money. They don't look like they were extras in Wall Street.



What programs are necessarily completely new? Most programs have already existed at some point in some form in the 18th and 19th century, they're just dismantled by capitalists before the population hits a tipping point and revolts via populism. That's the whole point of the welfare state. It isn't about the kindness of the act and preventing people from dying in the streets, it's about keeping people from rising up. America learned that after the anarchists rising up in the post-WWI recession and again with the Bonus Army. Times get bad enough, people start wondering why they let people exploit them.

And there lies the problem. Corporate welfare and farm subsidies. Why do politicians want to be seen with corn farmers? They whore themselves out in Iowa for those caucus votes. More subsidies, more corn and more ethanol

Obama and his inner circle arent extras? Hes got staffers at one point or another who were connected with Goldman Sachs. Jack Lew is a Citigroup guy.

Programs like the great society, Social Security, Meidicare/Medicaid are all less than 100 years old respectively.

No ones advocating for people dying on the street, However many of these programs are outside the bounds of article 1 section 8. If we actually had a more simplified tax code, the states could pick those programs up.

[hanso]

Feed the world just not on WF's tax dollar

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Feed the world just not on WF's tax dollar

That's why there are charities.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Arm the world.


That's what this country loves to do.

[hanso]

That's why there are charities.

Won't exporting farming profits upset the subsides? The other rout could be less farmers.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Won't exporting farming profits upset the subsides? The other rout could be less farmers.

Most of the largesse goes to corporate/factory farms. Others go to people like Springsteen Bon Jovi and Mrs. I hate big gov't Michelle Bachmann.

[Syd]

And there lies the problem. Corporate welfare and farm subsidies. Why do politicians want to be seen with corn farmers? They whore themselves out in Iowa for those caucus votes. More subsidies, more corn and more ethanol

Because it's in everyone's best interest to have known pricing. Why do you think so many companies act seamlessly with unions? Because the price of labor is a known quantity and they can arrange their business around that (if they're smart)

Programs like the great society, Social Security, Meidicare/Medicaid are all less than 100 years old respectively.

No ones advocating for people dying on the street, However many of these programs are outside the bounds of article 1 section 8. If we actually had a more simplified tax code, the states could pick those programs up.

What's more simplified? Flat tax?

How is a flat tax useful for the economy with respect to the marginal utility of the dollar?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Because it's in everyone's best interest to have known pricing. Why do you think so many companies act seamlessly with unions? Because the price of labor is a known quantity and they can arrange their business around that (if they're smart)



What's more simplified? Flat tax?

How is a flat tax useful for the economy with respect to the marginal utility of the dollar?

Known pricing set by the market and not price controls and artificially set prices.

Flat Tax, Fair tax. Anything to replace this archaic system we have now. In regards to currency. Killing this fiat system we have now. Returning our currency to a system pre federal reserve.

[Syd]

There's not enough gold in the world. If we went back to the gold standard, not even Mitt Romney could afford to buy a bottle of soda

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It doesn't have to be tied to gold. There are other commodities out there

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see Obama is out there fear mongering using props again

At least he didn't use kids this time

Does the stupid fuck know that there are no cuts?

What a lightweight

[spoon]

That's why there are charities.

great

but guess what, we can have them TOO

[spoon]

Known pricing set by the market and not price controls and artificially set prices.

Flat Tax, Fair tax. Anything to replace this archaic system we have now. In regards to currency. Killing this fiat system we have now. Returning our currency to a system pre federal reserve.

you truly are just a fucking cliche of cliches at this point

squawk squawk!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you truly are just a fucking cliche of cliches at this point

squawk squawk!

Of course your simple little mind would not understand.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

great

but guess what, we can have them TOO

Exactly


Why should our tax dollars continue to be squandered to the 3rd world. Want to feed someone with your money? Do it voluntarily.

[spoon]

Exactly


Why should our tax dollars continue to be squandered to the 3rd world. Want to feed someone with your money? Do it voluntarily.

you dumb fuck, the programs that were being talked about are for people of THIS country despite Hanso's joke to point out you're a piece of shit...which you are. but why stay on topic/target when you can just float around with no semblance of structure, just like every fucking trite thought in your head from your idiotic newswires and awful blogs full of equally awful memes.

[spoon]

Of course your simple little mind would not understand.

what's that mr. original?

you're a complete fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you dumb fuck, the programs that were being talked about are for people of THIS country despite Hanso's joke to point out you're a piece of shit...which you are. but why stay on topic/target when you can just float around with no semblance of structure, just like every fucking trite thought in your head from your idiotic newswires and awful blogs full of equally awful memes.




I already gave my response of charities and churches and allowing states to take the lead.


Read article 1 section 8 of the constitution and see what taxes can be collected for. Providing a navy, Post offices or post roads and not whatever the FEDERAL government can grab its talons on for whatever wish list you want.

[PapaBear]

Sorry Army and Air Force. You gotta go.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sorry Army and Air Force. You gotta go.


Standing armies were never supposed to be permanent.

[PapaBear]

Standing armies were never supposed to be permanent.
So you're saying the Army and Air Force are unconstitutional?

[spoon]

I already gave my response of charities and churches and allowing states to take the lead.


Read article 1 section 8 of the constitution and see what taxes can be collected for. Providing a navy, Post offices or post roads and not whatever the FEDERAL government can grab its talons on for whatever wish list you want.

FUCKWAD, I know you gave your responses in the past, you repeat them 50 times a GOD DAMN week in every political thread we have, but in this case you wandered AGAIN. You're an unoriginal, parrot fuck who reads the constitution one way to fit his archaic needs and complete out of date bullshit like post offices and post roads as if it's some golden point. Perhaps we better get on the Corwin Amendment too, it's topical and still up for a vote. I'm sure that's close enough for your wandering mind and plenty in line with your racist cunt approach to many things.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So you're saying the Army and Air Force are unconstitutional?

Theyre not. This is what it says about the army


To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

In regards to the air force at one time it was part of the Army. If anything there should have been an amendment declaring the Air Force an independent branch

[WRESTLINGFAN]

FUCKWAD, I know you gave your responses in the past, you repeat them 50 times a GOD DAMN week in every political thread we have, but in this case you wandered AGAIN. You're an unoriginal, parrot fuck who reads the constitution one way to fit his archaic needs and complete out of date bullshit like post offices and post roads as if it's some golden point. Perhaps we better get on the Corwin Amendment too, it's topical and still up for a vote. I'm sure that's close enough for your wandering mind and plenty in line with your racist cunt approach to many things.

Here we go again. The constitution doesn't matter or does it matter what you feel it should be ?


You're an amateur still spewing racism and cunt when you cant break the argument. You're a lightweight just like your fucking know it all president.

[spoon]

Standing armies were never supposed to be permanent.

and this just proves my last intentionally flame post to WF

he's a fucking idiot who simply deserves little, nah, no respect

he's the product or parody of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Carl Rove's gang bang puddle

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and this just proves my last intentionally flame post to WF

he's a fucking idiot who simply deserves little, nah, no respect

he's the product or parody of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Carl Rove's gang bang puddle

Hilarious

[spoon]

Here we go again. The constitution doesn't matter or does it matter what you feel it should be ?


You're an amateur still spewing racism and cunt when you cant break the argument. You're a lightweight just like your fucking know it all president.

first off, is that english?

second, break WHAT argument!?

do you even know what you're talking about? you can't even stay on topic long enough to have a specific argument, much less be on the winning side of one.

I'm just calling you out for being a fucking piece of shit...PERIOD.

and funny you should use the word spewing cum puddle boy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

break WHAT argument!?

do you even know what you're talking about?

I'm just calling you out for being a fucking piece of shit...PERIOD.

Break the argument about the constitution, economics etc.


I'm calling you out as an amateur

[spoon]

Break the argument about the constitution, economics etc.


I'm calling you out as an amateur

sure thing, this from the guy still perplexed on how taxes are used for things other than the post office and post roads, how we have a standing army AND air force and wants to interpret the constitution and bill of rights like a christian fundamentalist views the bible

you're worse than an amateur, you're a rigid and intentional fucking fool

[PapaBear]

Theyre not. This is what it says about the army


To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

In regards to the air force at one time it was part of the Army. If anything there should have been an amendment declaring the Air Force an independent branch
No amendment is required. An Act of Congress can be deemed unconstitutional. But no Act of Congress related to the creation of our current state of the armed forces has been. Therefore, they are Constitutional. Just as everything else that people cry out "UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!" about are. The US Constitution can be taken word for word by citizens, about as much as the Bible. You can't pick and choose the parts that fit your argument, because the entirety will never support ANY argument.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

sure thing, this from the guy still perplexed on how taxes are used for things other than the post office and post roads, how we have a standing army AND air force and wants to interpret the constitution and bill of rights like a christian fundamentalist views the bible

you're worse than an amateur, you're a rigid and intentional fucking fool

The bible has the new testament.


And.........

The constitution can be amended.

[spoon]

No amendment is required. An Act of Congress can be deemed unconstitutional. But no Act of Congress related to the creation of our current state of the armed forces has been. Therefore, they are Constitutional. Just as everything else that people cry out "UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!" about are. The US Constitution can be taken word for word by citizens, about as much as the Bible. You can't pick and choose the parts that fit your argument, because the entirety will never support ANY argument.

b
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g
Ohhhhhhhhh!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No amendment is required. An Act of Congress can be deemed unconstitutional. But no Act of Congress related to the creation of our current state of the armed forces has been. Therefore, they are Constitutional. Just as everything else that people cry out "UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!" about are. The US Constitution can be taken word for word by citizens, about as much as the Bible. You can't pick and choose the parts that fit your argument, because the entirety will never support ANY argument.

I'm not picking and choosing. I'm saying that the constitution lays out the foundation on what the 3 branches can do.

So the constitution can just be whatever someone thinks ?


Article 2 Has the President as commander in chief. Article 1 designates congress to declare war. Not the president. How much clearer can that be?

[spoon]

The bible has the new testament.


And.........

The constitution can be amended.

and there in lies the intentional douche that is WF


REALLY!?

REALLY?!

thanks for the update asshole, you've accomplished nothing yet again

fucking fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and there in lies the intentional douche that is WF


REALLY!?

REALLY?!

thanks for the update asshole, you've accomplished nothing yet again

fucking fool

Because you have these blinders on and I don't expect you to comprehend.

[spoon]

I'm not picking and choosing. I'm saying that the constitution lays out the foundation on what the 3 branches can do.

So the constitution can just be whatever someone thinks ?


Article 2 Has the President as commander in chief. Article 1 designates congress to declare war. Not the president. How much clearer can that be?

point?

even a dead horse with blinders could still see you are a piece o shit!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

point?

even a dead horse with blinders could still see you are a piece o shit!

Amateur

[spoon]

just like tiger in 95

http://0.tqn.com/d/golf/1/G/n/N/1/tiger-woods-1995-us-amateur.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VCmFHz2zgWs/TR92DqvVWbI/AAAAAAAAAHY/zVjfUWMs_WQ/s1600/Tiger+sshhh.jpg

shhhhhhh


go to bed little fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I hope Barack didn't get tips from Tiger on how to cheat on FLOTUS

[Syd]

The bible has the new testament.


And.........

The constitution can be amended.

and the Constitution is inherently flawed, and the Supreme Court invented it's own function with Marbury v. Madison. If the United States can survive that, the United States can survive having a (more) functional healthcare system or a taxation system that adequately respects marginal utility.

[deliciousV]

and the Constitution is inherently flawed, and the Supreme Court invented it's own function with Marbury v. Madison. If the United States can survive that, the United States can survive having a (more) functional healthcare system or a taxation system that adequately respects marginal utility.

I see your point, but you have to admit, Adams was kinda being an ass with his whole Midnight Judges move.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and the Constitution is inherently flawed, and the Supreme Court invented it's own function with Marbury v. Madison. If the United States can survive that, the United States can survive having a (more) functional healthcare system or a taxation system that adequately respects marginal utility.

That's why theres an amendment process

The constitution is not flawed. It's the way your politicians carry it out which is flawed.

The country survived 137 years without a progressive income tax.

Functional healthcare like the latest scam being Obamacare?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I guess Woods never saw him throw a baseball.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/tiger-praises-obama-golf-game-article-1.1268192

[Syd]

The country survived 137 years without a progressive income tax.

Actually there were income taxes, but anyway, money was raised via tariffs. We can't do that now in an era of globalization.

oh and why are you complaining about how the government should amend the constitution, and then they did, and that is bad because what?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Actually there were income taxes, but anyway, money was raised via tariffs. We can't do that now in an era of globalization.

oh and why are you complaining about how the government should amend the constitution, and then they did, and that is bad because what?

When the 16th amendment was ratified. The top marginal rate was 7% and not everyone paid. I think it was the top 1% at the time. As usual everything this Leviathan gets its hands on affected everyone else and when there wasn't enough revenue then shit really ran downhill. The problem is that the people in DC don't want the 16th repealed. Goodbye IRS, Goodbye to special interests and greasing the palms of the lobbyist class. The perpetual war machine and police/welfare state would come crashing down.

Im not saying don't amend the constitution, however look how some didn't pan out so good For example the 18th.

[A.J.]

Sorry Army and Air Force. You gotta go.

Navy FOREVA!

[Syd]

When the 16th amendment was ratified. The top marginal rate was 7% and not everyone paid. I think it was the top 1% at the time..

There were also extensive tariffs back then and the Gilded Age. Plus, all things considered, the greatest expansion of the American economy happened with extremely high top marginal tax rates.

Anyway, somewhat on the subject of income taxation, here's an article on the EITC and why the South is a huge drag on the United States, be it moral, economic, societal or educational:

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/southern_poverty_pimps/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The EITC is a product of our corrupt tax system. I'm not doubting that the south receives more largesse than they pay , but that's another reason to scrap the current system.

I don't want to pay to pave a road in Biloxi. If they want to continue to believe that the earth is 6,000 let them, but also let them stay way behind everyone else.


As poor as Dixieland is. I read a few months back that CA is the poorest state in the country

[hanso]

POTUS had a golf weekend with Tiger Woods.



Surprised there were no reports of him having 5 holes in 1 like Kim Jong Il had.

There are no pictures therefore it never happened.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I bet those 2 didn't discuss taxes

[hanso]

And there lies the problem. Corporate welfare and farm subsidies. Why do politicians want to be seen with corn farmers? They whore themselves out in Iowa for those caucus votes. More subsidies, more corn and more ethanol

Obama and his inner circle arent extras? Hes got staffers at one point or another who were connected with Goldman Sachs. Jack Lew is a Citigroup guy.

Programs like the great society, Social Security, Meidicare/Medicaid are all less than 100 years old respectively.

No ones advocating for people dying on the street, However many of these programs are outside the bounds of article 1 section 8. If we actually had a more simplified tax code, the states could pick those programs up.

They just cheer it in GOP presidential debates

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And those are the same know nothings who say they want small government but worship the bloated military spending , the police state and want abortions banned

[hanso]

When I posted feed the world not on your taxes it was a follow up to farm subsides and profits made overseas. We are the largest exporter of corn.




And lets not pretend charities are on the up anymore than corporations are.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When I posted feed the world not on your taxes it was a follow up to farm subsides and profits made overseas. We are the largest exporter of corn.




And lets not pretend charities are on the up anymore than corporations are.

That's why there are ways to research what charity to contribute . The ones with too much overhead and waste you can avoid


You can't avoid the government. Plus charities don't have thugs with guns to force you to contribute

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/179254_584222641596610_1365201284_n.jpg

[Syd]

That's why there are ways to research what charity to contribute . The ones with too much overhead and waste you can avoid


You can't avoid the government. Plus charities don't have thugs with guns to force you to contribute

charities are basically huge scams, too, to get a few people at the top rich while claiming they're doing good

private enterprise is always built to exploit labor, why would charity be different?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

charities are basically huge scams, too, to get a few people at the top rich while claiming they're doing good

private enterprise is always built to exploit labor, why would charity be different?



Voluntary transactions bad. Forced taxation via barrel of a gun good.


I'll give you credit. At least you are overt about collectivism

[WRESTLINGFAN]

L'Chaim


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57570390/rubio-netanyahu-poke-fun-at-water-bottle-incident/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Doom and gloom, the world is going to end. The lightweight president looked pathetic this week with his ginned up scenarios if the sequester goes thru

[Syd]

Voluntary transactions bad. Forced taxation via barrel of a gun good.


I'll give you credit. At least you are overt about collectivism

Problem is people aren't voluntary. They want things, but they don't want to pay for them. Because they're idle-minded in this regard, we have to forcefully tax them. It's society. Welcome to the club.

[epo]

Doom and gloom, the world is going to end. The lightweight president looked pathetic this week with his ginned up scenarios if the sequester goes thru

And yet 75% of the public agree with his approach.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And yet 75% of the public agree with his approach.

Hence, Low Info , low IQ voters. That's how he got re elected

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Problem is people aren't voluntary. They want things, but they don't want to pay for them. Because they're idle-minded in this regard, we have to forcefully tax them. It's society. Welcome to the club.

Taxation for programs outside the limits of the 18 enumareted powers?


I'd love to get out of that club

[Syd]

programs that facilitate your lifestyle

just because money isn't being handed directly to you, it still generally benefits you to some extent

[WRESTLINGFAN]

programs that facilitate your lifestyle

just because money isn't being handed directly to you, it still generally benefits you to some extent

Im not advocating a government program that hands out free Yankees tickets.


How does someone in the inner city who keeps having children she can't afford or some corporate factory farm getting subsidies for ethanol affect me positively?

[A.J.]

How does someone in the inner city who keeps having children she can't afford or some corporate factory farm getting subsidies for ethanol affect me positively?

You'll positively be required to help pay for both.

[Syd]

How does someone in the inner city who keeps having children she can't afford or some corporate factory farm getting subsidies for ethanol affect me positively?

Poverty leads to crime? That's why. You don't want those...inner city...people in your neighborhood, do you?

Ethanol isn't a mutagen, like other octane boosters

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So to keep the crime rate high, keep reproducing

I see now

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ethanol costs more to produce and is a self inflicting wound

[brettmojo]

Ethanol costs more to produce and is a self inflicting wound

Wrong. (http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/06/five-ethanol-myths-busted-2/)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The article is cherry picking information and forgets that the corn must be grown, harvested transported by truck which gets included in the price and also there is a huge corn subsidy provided by the taxpayers

[Syd]

Ethanol costs more to produce and is a self inflicting wound

Yes but it prevents toxic agents that are water soluble from entering the water supply. That's A Good Thing. Not even the gracious yet invisible hand of the free market can save us from toxic poisoning. Maybe if our taxes were lower

nah, it ain't happening

Oh that and ethanol/biobutanol are our future, or at least Canada's future because global warming is going to fuck up most of our farmlands be it from the Ogallala aquifer drying up or the extreme heat on plants combined with severe storms.

On top of that, corn ethanol subsidies are over. Drudge and el Rushbo surprisingly didn't talk about that ending because it drives advertising revenue, but the only subsidies going now are cellulose and other forms of ethanol that aren't derived from corn

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes but it prevents toxic agents that are water soluble from entering the water supply. That's A Good Thing. Not even the gracious yet invisible hand of the free market can save us from toxic poisoning. Maybe if our taxes were lower

nah, it ain't happening

Oh that and ethanol/biobutanol are our future, or at least Canada's future because global warming is going to fuck up most of our farmlands be it from the Ogallala aquifer drying up or the extreme heat on plants combined with severe storms.

Why should it be up to government to decide what our future is. Tens of billions have been thrown down a green energy rathole given to bundlers who finance the political prostitutes.

[spoon]

Hence, Low Info , low IQ voters. That's how he got re elected

that's racist code

who has their WF/Dude super secret decoder rings?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YSY37D33VOA/TWLprR7W1yI/AAAAAAAABBw/A7GwTY9DpOY/s1600/Ralphie.JPG

[spoon]

Why should it be up to government to decide what our future is. Tens of billions have been thrown down a green energy rathole given to bundlers who finance the political prostitutes.

you're all over the place again fucko

try to focus

you go from a specific, to a generality, to another specific entirely and now to "our future" somehow dictated by just government...oh wait, back to a new specific in general

[WRESTLINGFAN]

that's racist code

who has their WF/Dude super secret decoder rings?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YSY37D33VOA/TWLprR7W1yI/AAAAAAAABBw/A7GwTY9DpOY/s1600/Ralphie.JPG

Spoon the sleuth. Crack detective


Hey Gumshoe. Guess you forgot all the millions of whites who re elected him


Your stupidity shines brightly

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you're all over the place again fucko

try to focus

you go from a specific, to a generality, to another specific entirely and now to "our future" somehow dictated by just government...oh wait, back to a new specific in general

Focus like how your government is adept at pissing money away at what they call investments?

[spoon]

Spoon the sleuth. Crack detective


Hey Gumshoe. Guess you forgot all the millions of whites who re elected him



did I W the Greek?

[spoon]

Focus like how your government is adept at pissing money away at what they call investments?

you mean like you, as a marine?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes like head start for an example

Over a hundred billion and counting just to be a glorified babysitting program

[hanso]

That's why there are ways to research what charity to contribute . The ones with too much overhead and waste you can avoid


You can't avoid the government. Plus charities don't have thugs with guns to force you to contribute

Charities whore out to Government same as any other lobbyist do.

[hanso]

programs that facilitate your lifestyle

just because money isn't being handed directly to you, it still generally benefits you to some extent


Paint by numbers wont work Johnny always paints outside the lines

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Charities whore out to Government same as any other lobbyist do.

You can choose not to contribute to a charity. They don't have guns

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Heard Obamas malaise speech for his weekly address. According to him, planes will fall from the sky. Firemen wont come to your burning house and cops will not respond to crimes.

Who woulda thought Obama was Harold Camping.

[spoon]

Heard Obamas malaise speech for his weekly address. According to him, planes will fall from the sky. Firemen wont come to your burning house and cops will not respond to crimes.

Who woulda thought Obama was Harold Camping.

who?

tell us

[WRESTLINGFAN]

who?

tell us

According to Barack he's making it sound like it's the end of the world because of a policy he called for that cuts nothing hoping that low info low IQ voters fall for his bullshit.


McConnell and Boehner as just as pathetic. Those 2 should be pounding at the presidents scare tactics and refuting him.


I hope Ashley Judd does run in 2014 and beats McConnell.

[spoon]

According to Barack he's making it sound like it's the end of the world because of a policy he called for that cuts nothing hoping that low info low IQ voters fall for his bullshit.


McConnell and Boehner as just as pathetic. Those 2 should be pounding at the presidents scare tactics and refuting him.


I hope Ashley Judd does run in 2014 and beats McConnell.

REFUTE!

http://fierth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Pee_Wee_Herman.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

But he gave us healthcare. More victims of Shitcare


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-your-boss-is-dumping-your-wife-2013-02-22

[spoon]

But he gave us healthcare. More victims of Shitcare


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-your-boss-is-dumping-your-wife-2013-02-22

why yes, that's what they are victim to

While surcharges for spousal coverage are more common, last year, 6% of large employers excluded spouses, up from 5% in 2010, as did 4% of huge companies with at least 20,000 employees, twice as many as in 2010, according to human resources firm Mercer. These “spousal carve-outs,” or “working spouse provisions,” generally prohibit only people who could get coverage through their own job from enrolling in their spouse’s plan.

About a fifth of companies had policies to discourage spouses from joining their health plan in 2012, according to Mercer, though most just charged extra—$100 a month, on average—to cover spouses who could get insurance elsewhere, rather than deny coverage entirely. Indeed, large firms including generics maker Teva and supply chain manager Intermec have spousal surcharges costing $100 a month, or $1,200 annually, while Xerox charges $1,000 for the year.

and it mostly has to do with this...

While couples generally prefer to be on the same health plan, companies often find that spouses are more expensive to insure than their own employees. That’s because, say benefits experts, covered spouses tend to be women, who as a group not only spend more on health care, but also have more free time to go to the doctor if they don’t work. Indeed, JetBlue’s covered spouses cost 50% more than crewmembers themselves,

my pos company did it already

way before healthcare reform, as this is a disgusting trend, not some big new reason " OBC" sucks...in fact, the reason I believe it needs to go further to protect families and of course at least a public option worth it's salt

[WRESTLINGFAN]

why yes, that's what they are victim to





and it mostly has to do with this...



my pos company did it already

way before healthcare reform, as this is a disgusting trend, not some big new reason " OBC" sucks...in fact, the reason I believe it needs to go further to protect families and of course at least a public option worth it's salt

The goal is singlepayer. This is just another intended consequence.


Wait until 2014 when shit really hits the fan and more schemes are uncovered from Obamacare.

[hanso]

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SEN. RAND PAUL (R-KY): "We are talking about someone eating at a cafe in Boston, or New York, and a Hellfire Missile comes raining in on them. There should be an easy answer from the administration on this. They should say, 'absolutely no, we will not kill Americans in America without an accusation, a trial and a jury.'"
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2182896656001/sen-rand-paul-threatens-to-hold-up-brennan-confirmation/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Exactly


That's what due process is all about


No president can unilaterally kill someone


Doesn't the constitutional scholar know that?

[hanso]

Exactly


That's what due process is all about


No president can unilaterally kill someone


Doesn't the constitutional scholar know that?

Officials in Texas announced on Thursday that state troopers would no longer be allowed to open fire on suspects from helicopters after the recent killing of two immigrants.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Good

The police aren't infallible

[hanso]

[QUOTE=hanso;3046589]

SEN. RAND PAUL (R-KY): "We are talking about someone eating at a cafe in Boston, or New York, and a Hellfire Missile comes raining in on them./QUOTE]

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says constituents are telling him that high-capacity magazines should not be banned because people need "at least 50 rounds" to shoot down government drones.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The underlying program is having drones just fly over your property with no regards to the 4th amendment. As far as shooting them down. Im not sure if a 5.56 or 7.62 round can bring one down


The point is that we have a president along with many in congress who believe in a police state with no regard for due process with an uninformed electorate allowing this to happen

Wait until more drones are used to do regular police patrol work. Drones don't need pensions or salaries and don't call out sick.

[hanso]

House Republicans strip LGBT, Native American protections from Violence Against Women Act


Their idea of working with the other side?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There shouldn't be a VAWA.


Violence towards a person is already against the law. More feel good legislation using these ginned up words.


It's contrary to equal justice under the law because it's putting one gender over another.

Another example of using words. The Patriot act. Nothing patriotic about it.

[Syd]

Yeah, and the Prohibition didn't reduce the fuck out of domestic abuse cases. If society can't handle their shit, laws are enacted so that they begin to handle their shit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No Child left behind. Feel good words. Awful program

[spoon]

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someone needs to edit it to inside Wf's head...yet nobody would argue no child left behind is a good program...wonder where it came from?

and yes, i can't even fathom the reasoning behind GINNED up words and such "feel good" legislation to protect women from unimaginable wrongs

but yah, just reverse sexist right!? the poor white guy takes another hit!

:wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What a surprise . Failure of logical thought and analysis by Spoon.

I'll say it again. It's already illegal to beat your spouse no matter what gender


Yes NCLB was under the Bush 43 admin. So was the patriot act.

Sure Socrates, it's only whites who beat women.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

PS

NCLB is another reason to keep the Feds out of education.

[spoon]

PS

NCLB is another reason to keep the Feds out of education.

you are a funny idiot

just like fema under brownie, break things and then claim no bueno!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Katrina was a fuckup on all levels of government

FEMA wouldn't be needed if States were able to keep more money instead of sending it to DC to be doled out for head start, NCLB , useless wars and trying to buy friends abroad

[spoon]

that's a new one, and surely the reason fema was awful...states should get the money to piss away and then be left to fend for themselves...smart

fema has it's place, it just has to have actual people who can run it, not crony assholes

and yes the Louisiana gov was a joke too, nobody made excuses for them either

yet they got hit and it's not their ONLY job like it is for FEMA throughout the country for very good reasons you somehow tie to wars and other programs not even close to tied together outside your crazy mind.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

. Disasters never happened before FEMA was created right?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The public is really stupid if they fall for the fear mongering of Obama

Then again never underestimate their stupidity. They don't know sequestration is an Obama creation and it doesn't cut anything
Amazing how hardly anyone knows what projected/proposed spending is.

Bob Woodward , hardly a right winger had a column in the WaPo about Obama owning the sequester. 2 cents less out of every dollar proposed according to the president means zombie apocalypse

[Syd]

FEMA wouldn't be needed if States were able to keep more money

So they'd just be able to put up big piles of money to protect their infrastructure after a natural disaster?

I don't think you "get" what happens, logistically speaking, when a hurricane (or other damaging event) happens. This is why people like Romney thought Hurricane Sandy victims needed clothes.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So they'd just be able to put up big piles of money to protect their infrastructure after a natural disaster?

I don't think you "get" what happens, logistically speaking, when a hurricane (or other damaging event) happens. This is why people like Romney thought Hurricane Sandy victims needed clothes.

Hurricanes don't wipe out entire states. There could have been people from upstate like Albany and Rochester to assist post storm.

There were stories of FEMA trailers years after Katrina. Whenever there are these massive aid deals to affected areas it's always riddled with abuse and waste.

[Syd]

You know why they were there years after? Insurers were often able to reneg on their contracts through some force majeure bullshit by being able to argue that the wind, not the water, caused structures to fail and oh hey here in the contract it says wind isn't covered (unless you have a lawyer and can pay for a lengthy legal fight!)

FEMA just said keep the trailers because government isn't a for-profit business. They're interested in the greater good, not Romney's yearly income.

and yes, Albany, the city of what, 100k people? totes has the supplies for 2.5 liters of water per day for the nearly 1 million displaced residents. Oh, and food, because Albany totes has the HDRs/Nutraloafs for those same people too. Don't forget the medical care, either, because Albany also has a bunch of doctors laying around just waiting for natural disasters. Ditto for people to repair the potable water supply, sewage overflows and don't forget the people to remove the water. Albany, truly the world's leader in being a city entirely dedicated to hosting people and the massive diesel fuel supplies, trucks, helicopters and miscellaneous equipment like generators to sit around for a 20 year storm that impacts NYC :thumbup:

[Jujubees2]

You know why they were there years after? Insurers were often able to reneg on their contracts through some force majeure bullshit by being able to argue that the wind, not the water, caused structures to fail and oh hey here in the contract it says wind isn't covered (unless you have a lawyer and can pay for a lengthy legal fight!)

FEMA just said keep the trailers because government isn't a for-profit business. They're interested in the greater good, not Romney's yearly income.

and yes, Albany, the city of what, 100k people? totes has the supplies for 2.5 liters of water per day for the nearly 1 million displaced residents. Oh, and food, because Albany totes has the HDRs/Nutraloafs for those same people too. Don't forget the medical care, either, because Albany also has a bunch of doctors laying around just waiting for natural disasters. Ditto for people to repair the potable water supply, sewage overflows and don't forget the people to remove the water. Albany, truly the world's leader in being a city entirely dedicated to hosting people and the massive diesel fuel supplies, trucks, helicopters and miscellaneous equipment like generators to sit around for a 20 year storm that impacts NYC :thumbup:

Wow this Albany place sounds nice. Think I'll move there (at least until NYC gets hits with another hurricane).

[Syd]

Wow this Albany place sounds nice. Think I'll move there (at least until NYC gets hits with another hurricane).

Wait till you see their impressive harbor, where they're able to dock their supertanker-turned-hospital ships that they use to provide additional relief to beleaguered hospitals. And the USCG ships, too, for clearing and securing shipping lanes to allow normal water traffic in impacted areas! Albany waterfront is definitely a destination you want to see.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just don't carry more than 7 rounds. However your soda can be more than 16 fl oz.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Greater good like mildew infested trailers.? What's your obsession with Romney he's irrelevant

This is what you get when there's insurance companies in bed with the Feds .

The world doesn't revolve around NYC . So what you're saying is trust a defective federal govt entrenched with defective politicians and cronies.

There was a huge earthquake in 1906 that happened 3000 miles from DC and FEMA was not around but somehow SF was rebuilt


A huge fire consumed Chicago pre FEMA but it was rebuilt .

[brettmojo]

Hurricanes don't wipe out entire states. There could have been people from upstate like Albany and Rochester to assist post storm.

This would be hilarious if you weren't serious.

[brettmojo]

Greater good like mildew infested trailers.? What's your obsession with Romney he's irrelevant

This is what you get when there's insurance companies in bed with the Feds .

The world doesn't revolve around NYC . So what you're saying is trust a defective federal govt entrenched with defective politicians and cronies.

There was a huge earthquake in 1906 that happened 3000 miles from DC and FEMA was not around but somehow SF was rebuilt


A huge fire consumed Chicago pre FEMA but it was rebuilt .
I think we're just saying if FEMA was around when Noah had to build that Ark maybe those poor animals could have gotten off the ship sooner.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

People have been conditioned thru the politicians that they need to wait for the Feds

Hence over the past 100 years that's a big part why the country is in a mess

Murrican Exceptionalism. Haaa

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think we're just saying if FEMA was around when Noah had to build that Ark maybe those poor animals could have gotten off the ship sooner.


Obama could have parted the Red Sea

[brettmojo]

People have been conditioned thru the politicians that they need to wait for the Feds

Hence over the past 100 years that's a big part why the country is in a mess

Murrican Exceptionalism. Haaa

It's cute how you latch onto these throw-away GOP talking points and just run them into the ground.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's cute how you latch onto these throw-away GOP talking points and just run them into the ground.


I don't belong to the GOP . They're puppets of big government. Their problem is that they don't know it.


Amazing how you selectively read but didn't see me trashing McConnell and Boehner

[hanso]

Wait till you see their impressive harbor, where they're able to dock their supertanker-turned-hospital ships that they use to provide additional relief to beleaguered hospitals. And the USCG ships, too, for clearing and securing shipping lanes to allow normal water traffic in impacted areas! Albany waterfront is definitely a destination you want to see.

Water could come from Watertown?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This president is severely brain damaged. He's droning on again how that there needs to be more money for roads and bridges. Sure let's practice the broken window fallacy ...again

He got his stimulus 4 years ago. Doesn't he know that there's already a fund for that with federal gas taxes?

Plus there have been numerous highway spending bills since the Clinton admin.

Universal pre K . That's all we need more public sector workers. More lavish perks and taxpayer funded pensions

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Water could come from Watertown?



Flushing

[Jujubees2]

Just don't carry more than 7 rounds. However your soda can be more than 16 fl oz.

Can I get that soda in a styrofoam cup?

[Syd]

Greater good like mildew infested trailers.? What's your obsession with Romney he's irrelevant

This is what you get when there's insurance companies in bed with the Feds .

The world doesn't revolve around NYC . So what you're saying is trust a defective federal govt entrenched with defective politicians and cronies.

There was a huge earthquake in 1906 that happened 3000 miles from DC and FEMA was not around but somehow SF was rebuilt


A huge fire consumed Chicago pre FEMA but it was rebuilt .

It was rebuilt, but at what cost to the nation?

http://www.econ.tcu.edu/quinn/finhist/readings/1906earthquake.pdf

And yes, I trust the government more than private industry. Government at least has the appearance of being in your best interest, private industry has only one beckoning: short term profit. Usually speaking, letting people die in insurance situations means more short term profit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It was rebuilt, but at what cost to the nation?

http://www.econ.tcu.edu/quinn/finhist/readings/1906earthquake.pdf

And yes, I trust the government more than private industry. Government at least has the appearance of being in your best interest, private industry has only one beckoning: short term profit. Usually speaking, letting people die in insurance situations means more short term profit.

And there lies the problem. The same government people trusted that there were WMD's in Iraq.

The same gov't that wasted trillions on failed social programs like the great society. The same gov't that upheld slavery and greenlit the rounding up of Japanese Americans 70 years ago.

The appearance of being in your best interest is another point. That beautiful woman has a great appearance but what happens when shes carrying STD's

There is a case for the government to step in for rebuilding whats required like roads etc after an earthquake because the taxpayers financed those projects.

If you think I want Nihilism, that's not the case. However an approach that someone in NY should repair something in CA is why I don't advocate for a national democracy or social democracy.

If you believe a federal republic has outlived it's use. Get the ball rolling and call for an article V convention.

[Syd]

http://i.imgur.com/jgdptfU.jpg

I can't wait for a glorious return to the free market!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Trust the government.


http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/ww2-pix/reloc2-a.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When you think fashion. Think USPS


http://news.yahoo.com/usps-launches-apparel-line-162656585--abc-news-politics.html;_ylt=A2KJ2PbPzytReH0AqqPQtDMD

[Syd]

Trust the government.


http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/ww2-pix/reloc2-a.jpg

trust private industry

https://www.google.com/search?q=VOC+genocide

[Syd]

and if VOC is too old school, don't worry, there's a big ol' party in the DRC that has plenty of rape, murder, cannibalism and forced amputations courtesy of the never-ending lust for profit:

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/motherboard-tv-vice-guide-to-congo-where-your-bloody-gadgets-came-from

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the CIA and MI5 were involved in these atrocities in Central Africa. It's not limited to that part of the world.


Check out War is a Racket by the late Marine General Smedley Butler.


Private industry acting in concert with government is harmful.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

White House claims its not Studio 44

Sure just because theres no velvet rope or Jay Carney picking people from a crowd or that Dick Trumka isn't a bouncer , we should really believe and trust them

:lol::lol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/25/obama-donors_n_2760343.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh No!! If sequester hits, people are going to starve


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Now SNAP is managed on a state level. It works with the feds. They pay about 50% and each state funds the remaining half


The people abusing SNAP do not give a fuck about the financial mess. To be fair, Its not just SNAP. Its medicare/Medicaid fraud going on and waste going on in all federal bureaucracies including the Pentagon

[hanso]

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Hope this guy gets voted out soon..big asshat

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bob Woodward just got threatened by the WH

On CNN he revealed he got an email which read that he was going to regret what he did because he exposed the administration on the sequester


He helped bring down Nixon. Maybe he can bring down this presidency

[Syd]

Yeah, he sure did expose that thing that was already public record.

You know what? Fuck it, I'm going to let people in on a little secret:

Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

You heard it here first. Now I am going to go hole up in my bunker for the inevitable repercussion from Obama!

Woodward is a fucking hack who had Mark Felt fall into his lap. Don't give him any more respect than you would John "ow my ear" Stossel.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Because Woodward exposed the WH in the sequester they along with his media colleagues are after him.


Typical Obama administration move. Threats and character assassination. Amazing how media shills like Chris Matthews portrays Obama and his inner circle as squeaky clean and pure as fresh snow. This is Chicago gutter low rent politics.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So the WH didnt know that hundreds of illegals were let loose to roam free. And it happened to be in Arizona

The excuse of course is because of the sequester

[Syd]

Except we knew about the sequestration and its proposal as a way to avoid the Republicans renegging on obligations?

It's seriously not news, it's some bullshit that Rush and Drudge are pushing because they know the GOP is going to get shithammered in the PR department -- people will blame them for budget cuts no matter how hard those guys try to push it back on the Democrats.

[A.J.]

Maybe. But ultimately it's the President's Budget, not Congress's.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Eventually Obamas Teflon will run out

The president is going to overplay his hand by relying on public perception

He didn't like it because he was called out on the sequestration. He's relying on the low info voters. He can't rule like that forever

The GOP are no better. Their communication skills are awful.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now is targeting Lanny Davis former counsel to he Clinton WH



TPM is asking if Woodward is a birther.

[Jujubees2]

Because Woodward exposed the WH in the sequester they along with his media colleagues are after him.


Typical Obama administration move. Threats and character assassination. Amazing how media shills like Chris Matthews portrays Obama and his inner circle as squeaky clean and pure as fresh snow. This is Chicago gutter low rent politics.

Wow, what a threat!

Bob Woodward Emails Show White House 'Threat' Was Not So Threatening (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-emails-white-house-threat_n_2781052.html?utm_hp_ref=tw)

But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim ...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You will regret.


Doesn't sound too friendly to me.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Woodward isn't carrying the water , so of course he's being targeted. Dare to take on the President and his minions will do everything to take him out.

[A.J.]

Woodward isn't carrying the water , so of course he's being targeted. Dare to take on the President and his minions will do everything to take him out.

Very Nixonian. How ironic.

[sailor]

Yeah, no sane person sees that as a threat.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I love how Woodward is being classified as a senile old man because their guy was basically caught trying to play blame someone else..... Again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If one of the hundreds of illegals who was allowed to roam free because of sequestration ends up raping or killing a family member of some politician , watch there be calls for landmines, sniper towers and tanks on the border.


The WH is blaming big sis for allowing them to be released.

[Bob Impact]

That is the most pathetic fucking threat ever.

[Bob Impact]

If it said "you will rue the day" I would buy it as a threat.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What is Woodward going to regret?


Will the Obama administration go Clinton now?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If you tell a diabetic that he will regret having that huge bowl of mashed potatoes, at least that's a valid warning.

[Jujubees2]

Anonymous Source Informs Bob Woodward He Hasn't Been Relevant In 40 Years (http://www.theonion.com/articles/anonymous-source-informs-bob-woodward-he-hasnt-bee,31481/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Less than 6 hours and where is the Ghost president?

Obama truly is lazy

[Jujubees2]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/856911_10151505216394238_1384701210_o.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hard work folks.

PS Jack Lews Cayman accounts are ok I guess

[brettmojo]

Less than 6 hours and where is the Ghost president?

Obama truly is lazy

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_los34vzaXS1qg2mip.gif

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

She probably meant 170,000, however there will be no nonstop coverage over her misspeak



http://www.mediaite.com/online/democratic-congresswoman-sequester-could-cause-over-170-million-jobs-to-be-lost/

[hanso]

Wall Street shrugs off 'sequester': Why is it ignoring Washington this time?

“The market has completely shrugged it off,” says Marc Chandler, global head of currency strategy at Brown Brothers Harriman. “People have barely batted an eyelash.”

Indeed, Wall Street indexes closed higher on Friday: The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by 0.25 percent to close at 14089.66; Nasdaq rose 0.30 percent to close at 3169.74; and the Standard & Poor’s 500 rose by 0.23 percent to close at 1518.21.

And the stock market is at a five-year high, with the three main indexes near record territory.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2013/0301/Wall-Street-shrugs-off-sequester-Why-is-it-ignoring-Washington-this-time

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Tell me again why we need a Federal department of education?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-arne-duncans-false-claim-of-pink-slips-for-teachers/2013/02/27/dac86324-8115-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_blog.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

More Lies.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/sequester-spin-obamas-incorrect-claim-of-capitol-janitors-receiving-a-pay-cut/2013/03/01/3407535c-82a9-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_blog.html


The Branch Barackians will brush this off along with all the numerous other whoppers and lies this 2 bit lowlife president continues to peddle. The man can not be taken seriously anymore.

[Syd]

http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/05/07/dijon-derangement-syndrome-conservative-media-a/149946

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The know it all can't even get his movie references correct

Jedi Mind Meld is what he said yesterday


If this was some other politicians it would be 3 months of how unhip they were

[A.J.]

The know it all can't even get his movie references correct

Jedi Mind Meld is what he said yesterday


If this was some other politicians it would be 3 months of how unhip they were

He can use the Vulcan mind trick to make them forget.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

May the Farce be with you Barack

[brettmojo]

More Lies.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/sequester-spin-obamas-incorrect-claim-of-capitol-janitors-receiving-a-pay-cut/2013/03/01/3407535c-82a9-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_blog.html


The Branch Barackians will brush this off along with all the numerous other whoppers and lies this 2 bit lowlife president continues to peddle. The man can not be taken seriously anymore.

Says the guy who just typed "Branch Barackians".

[spoon]

You will regret.


Doesn't sound too friendly to me.

HA!

He will regret his stance!

How did I know this thread would be filled with your nonsense on this issue and even deeper bullshit once everything was released. Like I stated so many times, you're a fucking parrot fool.

[spoon]

Woodward isn't carrying the water , so of course he's being targeted. Dare to take on the President and his minions will do everything to take him out.

yah, the EMAIL shows this is EXACTLY what is going on

fuck the evidence and just roll fucko!

[spoon]

If one of the hundreds of illegals who was allowed to roam free because of sequestration ends up raping or killing a family member of some politician , watch there be calls for landmines, sniper towers and tanks on the border.


The WH is blaming big sis for allowing them to be released.

states rights mother fucker

you got them and they chose their own path with the release

redirect funds if so worried about such a thing...but no, time to create the very issues you'll soon be crying about and blaming everyone else.

[spoon]

What is Woodward going to regret?


Will the Obama administration go Clinton now?

just stop fool

you're exposed again

how you didn't immediately jump off this idiotic story shows your ignorance and or bias...which is worse? why not just be both

[spoon]

If you tell a diabetic that he will regret having that huge bowl of mashed potatoes, at least that's a valid warning.

sigh

great takeaway/advice

[spoon]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_los34vzaXS1qg2mip.gif

and stupid

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and stupid

And the truth

[WRESTLINGFAN]

just stop fool

you're exposed again

how you didn't immediately jump off this idiotic story shows your ignorance and or bias...which is worse? why not just be both

Haaa Exposed?

Exposed is your president making an ass out of himself .....Again


Then getting called out in the Washington Post. Hardly a right wing newspaper. Exposed is his idiot Sec of Education fearmongering and getting called out on that as well.


Face it. This president is just an inept executive, thin skinned and as usual places blame everywhere else. The quarter stops with him because he's a 2 bit charlatan.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

states rights mother fucker

you got them and they chose their own path with the release

redirect funds if so worried about such a thing...but no, time to create the very issues you'll soon be crying about and blaming everyone else.

What do you mean states rights dummy?

That worthless Janet Napolitano had them released. DHS is a Federal agency.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

HA!

He will regret his stance!

How did I know this thread would be filled with your nonsense on this issue and even deeper bullshit once everything was released. Like I stated so many times, you're a fucking parrot fool.

Deeper bullshit like Obama worrying about Janitors and Arne Duncan bringing up teachers.


This president is bringing up the end of the world because of the rate of spending isn't going up as high as he wants

Nothing is getting cut. Keep believing your propaganda masters in DC.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Says the guy who just typed "Branch Barackians".



Barack has Koresh beaten. He had only about a couple of hundred people subscribing to his bullshit

[spoon]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbld0l9VSB1qgx37po1_500.gif

you make your own interpretations :lol:

[hanso]

Tell me again why we need a Federal department of education?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-arne-duncans-false-claim-of-pink-slips-for-teachers/2013/02/27/dac86324-8115-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_blog.html

Just do an air drop of cash over each school. Tell me why we need a push to privatise when the funding ultimately comes from the same source.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The ever common Friday document dump. Here comes more regulations. 700 Pages. by HHS


http://washingtonexaminer.com/hhs-releases-more-than-700-pages-of-new-obamacare-rules/article/2523012


OK Who's to blame when the economy is still stuck in neutral? James Buchanan? Rutherford B Hayes?