Obama - Worst President Ever?

[high fly]

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/11/04/elementary-epidemic-11-uncovered-videos-show-school-children-performing-praises-to-obama/

All the kiddies singing about Obama.

Surefire proof he's the Worst President Ever.... they couldn't shut those kids up when Bush was in office....

[keithy_19]

Barack Obama Elementary School song:

There’s a sound of Change
Blowing in the wind
It’s a sound that started long ago

By those who dare to dream
Fighting against the loss
With a passion of hope of better days

They had a dream
They had hope
for a friend to bring this nation together as one

The journey begins to education
Unlocking every door
Shaping a better tomorrow

We are sons and daughters
Of promise
Of school like a city upon a hill

Lights inside our hearts
And hope to [unintelligible]
To rise and conquer
[unintelligible]

To dream
To make a difference
Not just in our land
But in the world

Yes we can
Make a difference
If we unite
Together and take

I am the dream
I am the hope
I am the bridge that’ll bring this nation
Together as one

The journey begins to education
Unlocking every door
To shaping a better
Tomorrow

There’s [unintelligible]
If I teach you believe
My voice will count
My voice will be heard

Do you hear the sound
I am the dream
Do you hear the sound
I am the hope
Do you hear the sound

Yes we can.

The Barack Obama Elementary School

[keithy_19]

Surefire proof he's the Worst President Ever.... they couldn't shut those kids up when Bush was in office....

I just didn't want to start another thread. I feel it's incredibly dumb and a bit creepy to have school children singing about a sitting president REGARDLESS of political affiliation.

[high fly]

Barack Obama Elementary School song:

Sneaky little bastards stole those lyrics from a song about Bush.
Obama probably paid them to do it and switch his name in there..... another reason he is the Worst President Ever...

[SonOfSmeagol]

I suspect the author had been working on this article for a while, and was waiting for an opportune time to publish it, which he did today. Not worst, or best, but decidedly undetermined at this point.

'Change has come' ... or has it? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/29111)

A piece with some points of view that I happen to agree with, for what little that’s worth:

“Obama has the soul of an ideologue. He wants to be a transformational president — unconfined by the limitations of conventional politics and determined to put a lasting mark on his era.”

“But Obama also has the soul of an operative. He and his West Wing team — dominated at the top by people whose expertise is in the world of campaigns and Washington maneuvers — have proved to be far more familiar political types …”

“In his first year, he has presided over more new domestic spending than Bill Clinton, the last Democratic president, did in eight years. The “big bang” agenda he laid out earlier this year on health care, energy and financial regulation unmistakably signaled his ambition to vastly expand the role of government in American life. “

“On health care, it is clear that Obama’s team is more concerned with a victory — one his team expects by the end of the year — than with the programmatic details.”

“Obama’s backtracks are too fresh, and too discreet, to fully define him or become the narrative of his presidency, at least not yet. But he’s edging toward dangerous ground. Nowhere is that clearer than Afghanistan.”

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I suspect the author had been working on this article for a while, and was waiting for an opportune time to publish it, which he did today. Not worst, or best, but decidedly undetermined at this point.

'Change has come' ... or has it? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/29111)

A piece with some points of view that I happen to agree with, for what little that’s worth:

“Obama has the soul of an ideologue. He wants to be a transformational president — unconfined by the limitations of conventional politics and determined to put a lasting mark on his era.”

“But Obama also has the soul of an operative. He and his West Wing team — dominated at the top by people whose expertise is in the world of campaigns and Washington maneuvers — have proved to be far more familiar political types …”

“In his first year, he has presided over more new domestic spending than Bill Clinton, the last Democratic president, did in eight years. The “big bang” agenda he laid out earlier this year on health care, energy and financial regulation unmistakably signaled his ambition to vastly expand the role of government in American life. “

“On health care, it is clear that Obama’s team is more concerned with a victory — one his team expects by the end of the year — than with the programmatic details.”

“Obama’s backtracks are too fresh, and too discreet, to fully define him or become the narrative of his presidency, at least not yet. But he’s edging toward dangerous ground. Nowhere is that clearer than Afghanistan.”


All good points. Why the fuck hasn't Glass Steagle been repealed? I know this has to go thru Congress But Obama should have made this a priority

[badmonkey]

They're very busy testing new national anthems on elementary school focus groups. They don't have time to worry about crap like that. :innocent:

[SonOfSmeagol]

All good points. Why the fuck hasn't Glass Steagle been repealed? I know this has to go thru Congress But Obama should have made this a priority

Wasn't that already repealed?

[HBox]

Wasn't that already repealed?

He probably meant....... rerepealed? Unrepealed? Pealed?

[Dude!]

Ron Popeiled?

[IMSlacker]

I think he means the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, which repealed parts of the Glass-Steagall Act.

[HBox]

I think he just wanted to peel some potatoes and got lost on the way to the food forum.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think he just wanted to peel some potatoes and got lost on the way to the food forum.

:wallbash:

My Bad...

Un repeal it . Is that possible? If not push for a new law that forbids these one stop shopping financial institutions

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think he just wanted to peel some potatoes and got lost on the way to the food forum.

NOW IM STARVIN

[HBox]

:wallbash:

My Bad...

Un repeal it . Is that possible? If not push for a new law that forbids these one stop shopping financial institutions

That's the biggest thing that is pissing me off about Obama and Congress. They are taking their sweet fucking time coming up with stricter financial regulations. This should be the easiest part. The law is already written. Just fucking pass it again.

[A.J.]

Sneaky little bastards stole those lyrics from a song about Bush..

That was more likely a limerick than a song.

[LordJezo]

Things are getting dire.. word at the gym is that due to the recent Republican victories of this week's elections Obama is planning some sort of false flag event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) in the United States in order to show himself as a protector. US citizens will be killed and there will be significant damage done but people will be thanking and praising Obama for his help in saving people.

It's disgusting but it's the kind of games expected by a Liberal government backed by shadow players that will do anything to keep themselves in power.

[Dude!]

Things are getting dire.. word at the gym is that due to the recent Republican victories of this week's elections Obama is planning some sort of false flag event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) in the United States in order to show himself as a protector. US citizens will be killed and there will be significant damage done but people will be thanking and praising Obama for his help in saving people.

It's disgusting but it's the kind of games expected by a Liberal government backed by shadow players that will do anything to keep themselves in power.

i have been expecting this
i thought it would come later
though
like right before the 2012 election
when it looks like Obama will lose

then in late October 2012 comes
the staged event
and then his attempted coup

[Jujubees2]

Things are getting dire.. word at the gym is that due to the recent Republican victories of this week's elections Obama is planning some sort of false flag event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) in the United States in order to show himself as a protector. US citizens will be killed and there will be significant damage done but people will be thanking and praising Obama for his help in saving people.

It's disgusting but it's the kind of games expected by a Liberal government backed by shadow players that will do anything to keep themselves in power.

Good thing I've got my bunker prepared.

[keithy_19]

Good thing I've got my bunker prepared.

Like a bunker is going to stop Obama...

[TheMojoPin]

Things are getting dire.. word at the gym is that due to the recent Republican victories of this week's elections Obama is planning some sort of false flag event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) in the United States in order to show himself as a protector. US citizens will be killed and there will be significant damage done but people will be thanking and praising Obama for his help in saving people.

It's disgusting but it's the kind of games expected by a Liberal government backed by shadow players that will do anything to keep themselves in power.

Does the shooting today count? There wasn't any kind of "significant damage," nor did Obama actually do anything.

Present this at the gym and get back to me, please. OK thanks bye.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well the official report is 10.2% but its actually about 17%. Im going to wait for Gibbs to spin it & say that we are losing at a slower pace or that it was expected to be 10.3%. Stimulated yet?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/unemployment-rate-hits-102-in-october-2009-11-06-83100

[Dude!]

Well the official report is 10.2% but its actually about 17%. Im going to wait for Gibbs to spin it & say that we are losing at a slower pace or that it was expected to be 10.3%. Stimulated yet?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/unemployment-rate-hits-102-in-october-2009-11-06-83100

no, you read the report wrong
unemployment maxed out
at 8%
thanks to all the "stimulus" money

[Jujubees2]

Well the official report is 10.2% but its actually about 17%. Im going to wait for Gibbs to spin it & say that we are losing at a slower pace or that it was expected to be 10.3%. Stimulated yet?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/unemployment-rate-hits-102-in-october-2009-11-06-83100

In the gym this morning I heard it was more like 25% but that Obama has the numbers fixed.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In the gym this morning I heard it was more like 25% but that Obama has the numbers fixed.

This was done a few weeks back, hey but what does he know? Others like Nouriel Roubini and Gerald Clente are know nothings right? The dopes on CNBC will paint a pretty picture, but they are just more mouthpieces with nicer suits and journalism degrees just repeating the lines


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vU_yxAYvVA

[Syd]

Well the official report is 10.2% but its actually about 17%. Im going to wait for Gibbs to spin it & say that we are losing at a slower pace or that it was expected to be 10.3%. Stimulated yet?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/unemployment-rate-hits-102-in-october-2009-11-06-83100

U-6 is 17.5%

and yes, we're losing at a far slower pace thanks to the stimulus. Another round of stimulus money should go out to shore up state budget deficits further to help stem some of the damage that is occurring. California is already past the permanent damage point, Texas is closing in on it and a large swath of lesser GDP states. Only a scant few states are in the relatively healthy unemployment range and retail sales are faltering, causing more job loss in our ever-increasingly retail based economy.

Regardless, given the exponential nature of job loss in the American economy the people who have such a naive and narrow minded understanding of economics are really hurting our chances of recovering from it. Not that citing the Postman is in any way useful but there is a certain similarity now between Holnists and those opposing proven economic methods for starting economic recovery (and before you say "Well, WW2 brought us out of the Depression" just remember that during WW2, roughly 50% of the American GDP was in some way related to government controlled spending)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

U-6 is 17.5%

and yes, we're losing at a far slower pace thanks to the stimulus. Another round of stimulus money should go out to shore up state budget deficits further to help stem some of the damage that is occurring. California is already past the permanent damage point, Texas is closing in on it and a large swath of lesser GDP states. Only a scant few states are in the relatively healthy unemployment range and retail sales are faltering, causing more job loss in our ever-increasingly retail based economy.

Regardless, given the exponential nature of job loss in the American economy the people who have such a naive and narrow minded understanding of economics are really hurting our chances of recovering from it. Not that citing the Postman is in any way useful but there is a certain similarity now between Holnists and those opposing proven economic methods for starting economic recovery (and before you say "Well, WW2 brought us out of the Depression" just remember that during WW2, roughly 50% of the American GDP was in some way related to government controlled spending)


The Key to that GDP figure is that 65+ years ago we were producing items. Car assembly lines were made to produce tanks and planes. That was an all pitch in effort What do we produce now? Almost nothing We are a consumption based economy. Furthermore borrowing and spending is not the cure to what got us to this point which was borrowing and spending

This whole jobs created and or saved is fuzzy logic, thats like saying I lost $1000 playing roulette but made back $400 at the blackjack table and went home

[GregoryJoseph]

I think by now it should be fairly obvious to everyone that Obama is destined to be a one term President.

[Ponyboy]

Does anyone know if a president can be impeached for sheer incompetence?

[epo]

Does anyone know if a president can be impeached for sheer incompetence?

Dunno. Can someone check to see if they impeached Reagan in 1981?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think by now it should be fairly obvious to everyone that Obama is destined to be a one term President.

I wish him a long fruitful life of retirement starting in 2013 hopefully

[Serpico1103]

Dunno. Can someone check to see if they impeached Reagan in 1981?

I think he escaped on a catch-22 technicality. During Iran-Contra he claimed incompetence, but how can someone incompetent accurately gauge their own competence?

[Dude!]

I think by now it should be fairly obvious to everyone that Obama is destined to be a one term President.

yes, 'cause in 2012
his moslem masters
will make him dictator here

the plan is fully underway

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, 'cause in 2012
his moslem masters
will make him dictator here

the plan is fully underway

Yes we CAIR!!!!!

[hanso]

I think he escaped on a catch-22 technicality. During Iran-Contra he claimed incompetence, but how can someone incompetent accurately gauge their own competence?

Those with dementia know they have it.
When Reagan was given the medal of honor. He was heard to say yummy as he tried to peel away what he thought was foil of the chocolate.

[JimBeam]

Dunno. Can someone check to see if they impeached Reagan in 1981?

So imcompetent he won his 2nd term election by one of the hugest landslides ever ?

[GregoryJoseph]

So imcompetent he won his 2nd term election by one of the hugest landslides ever ?

Hahaha!

Stupid Minnesota... (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/ElectoralCollege1984.svg)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another reason why that dope is the worst President Ever. He won't attend the 20th anniversary of the Berlin wall coming down but he flew to NY on the 1 year anniversary of Lehmans Collapse

[underdog]

Another reason why that dope is the worst President Ever. He won't attend the 20th anniversary of the Berlin wall coming down but he flew to NY on the 1 year anniversary of Lehmans Collapse

You people would be pissed if he went to the 20th anniversary of the Berlin wall coming down.

"There's so many problems in the US, why is he flying overseas!?"

[TheMojoPin]

So imcompetent he won his 2nd term election by one of the hugest landslides ever ?

So did Nixon.

[Dude!]

So did Nixon.

so did LBJ

[disneyspy]

so did LBJ

was that that mexican president?

[TheMojoPin]

so did LBJ

Thank God.

[hanso]

so did LBJ

That was a head slide.

[HBox]

Clearly the point here is that the American people are a horrible judge of who is a good President.

[A.J.]

Thank God.

In your heart, you know Goldwater would have been great.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I saw some of that HBO Documentary on the campaign and election of Obama. Amazing how one year later the afterglow is gone and theres really no hope and change. Wall St is going back to its old business as usual, Healtcare Reform is stuck in the mud, Afghanistan is spiraling out of control, 17% unemployment but he sure gives a good speech

[KatPw]

I saw some of that HBO Documentary on the campaign and election of Obama. Amazing how one year later the afterglow is gone and theres really no hope and change. Wall St is going back to its old business as usual, Healtcare Reform is stuck in the mud, Afghanistan is spiraling out of control, 17% unemployment but he sure gives a good speech

10%, not 17%. Not that 10% is a good thing either, it fucking sucks. But last time I checked 10% was still less than 17%.
And I think lifting the restrictions on stem cell research is a pretty big deal. And he signed into law the new hate crimes bill. That's two off the top of my head. You can't say he hasn't done anything, all you can say is you don't agree with what he has done. If you want to argue about the effectiveness of what he has done that is another story.

[TheMojoPin]

In your heart, you know Goldwater would have been great.

HE WOULD HAVE NUKED THAT LITTLE GIRL!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

10%, not 17%. Not that 10% is a good thing either, it fucking sucks. But last time I checked 10% was still less than 17%.
And I think lifting the restrictions on stem cell research is a pretty big deal. And he signed into law the new hate crimes bill. That's two off the top of my head. You can't say he hasn't done anything, all you can say is you don't agree with what he has done. If you want to argue about the effectiveness of what he has done that is another story.

When you factor in people who haved stopped looking its actually about 17%, Furthermore long term unemployment is greater now then during the depression.

This might sound shocking but I believe the elimination of the Missile defense in E. Europe was one of his better policies, Also I believe that We should withdrawl from Afghanistan, They don't want to be westernized, let them live in the 7th century, Our Military shouldnt be nation building and being public relations people. Why is he taking his time on this important issue?

Don't stop there, why do we need a military presence in so many other countries? I think its time to dismantle the empire a bit.

No more national guard units deploying overseas would be a better move, They should be mobilized to protect the southern border

[Syd]

When you factor in people who haved stopped looking its actually about 17%, Furthermore long term unemployment is greater now then during the depression.

This might sound shocking but I believe the elimination of the Missile defense in E. Europe was one of his better policies, Also I believe that We should withdrawl from Afghanistan, They don't want to be westernized, let them live in the 7th century, Our Military shouldnt be nation building and being public relations people. Why is he taking his time on this important issue?

Don't stop there, why do we need a military presence in so many other countries? I think its time to dismantle the empire a bit.

No more national guard units deploying overseas would be a better move, They should be mobilized to protect the southern border

Agree w/ all of the above. Afghanistan is the graveyard of the empires, we have no business being there and the sooner we pull out the sooner we can use that money to begin paying down the debt.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, we gotta bail on Afghanistan. Like with Iraq after the first Gulf War, we totally shit the bed by not focusing on Afghanistan when we had the opportunity to maybe make some real changes in in the wake of the initial occupation. It sucks that the place will essentially just collapse into civil war, but the only other option is likely just occupying the country indefinitely. We need to be out of there.

And "dismantling the empire" a bit should help us cut down on wasteful spending. Mobilizing armed forces indefinitely along the border does not.

[Syd]

We need to go Roman Empire on our troops. Bring them home, have them start building public works shit. We already pay their salary so its just the cost of materials. We can start building our wall down south, patrol our borders and start building artificial reefs for the gulf coast.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, we gotta bail on Afghanistan. Like with Iraq after the first Gulf War, we totally shit the bed by not focusing on Afghanistan when we had the opportunity to maybe make some real changes in in the wake of the initial occupation. It sucks that the place will essentially just collapse into civil war, but the only other option is likely just occupying the country indefinitely. We need to be out of there.

And "dismantling the empire" a bit should help us cut down on wasteful spending. Mobilizing armed forces indefinitely along the border does not.

We shouldnt have our active duty on the border, Nat'l guard units from Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Calif should be sent there

[hanso]

It's the NWO brother we don't act locally with things that make sense anymore.

[TheMojoPin]

We shouldnt have our active duty on the border, Nat'l guard units from Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Calif should be sent there

That shit ain't free, plus it wouldn't stop there.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He didnt even bother to congratulate the Yankees for winning the WS Whats next?Taxpayers to bail out the Pirates and Royals?.... IMPEACH HIM NOW!!!!!

[TheMojoPin]

That alone should get him added to Mt. Rushmore.

[high fly]

We shouldnt have our active duty on the border, Nat'l guard units from Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Calif should be sent there


Yeah, but then some squealer will go and tell the Mexicans about "boats" and we'll be fucked since we got, like, a hunnerd thousand mile of coast to defend or something.....

..........yet another reason O'Bama is the worse president ever....

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, but then some squealer will go and tell the Mexicans about "boats" and we'll be fucked since we got, like, a hunnerd thousand mile of coast to defend or something.....

..........yet another reason O'Bama is the worse president ever....

We have a coast guard for that. They seem to do a good job keeping Cubans and Haitans out

[Crispy_Mobile]

We have a coast guard for that. They seem to do a good job keeping Cubans and Haitans out

im guessing you have never been to miami.

[TheMojoPin]

We have a coast guard for that. They seem to do a good job keeping Cubans and Haitans out

Since when?

[high fly]

Originally Posted by high fly
Yeah, but then some squealer will go and tell the Mexicans about "boats" and we'll be fucked since we got, like, a hunnerd thousand mile of coast to defend or something.....

..........yet another reason O'Bama is the worse president ever....


We have a coast guard for that. They seem to do a good job keeping Cubans and Haitans out

My friend, I do a lot of sailing and the Coasties don't come anywhere close to keeping anyone out. I'm not knocking them, they do a great job, but sailing a boat from Central America to anywhere up and down the coasts or inland up rivers and bays is ridiculously easy to do and not get caught.
I know a guy in Florida who regularly sails back and forth to Cuba and has no problems doing so.
You could multiply the Coast Guard by a factor of 10 and have no effect because they are already spread a lot more thinly than you realize....

[TheMojoPin]

My friend, I do a lot of sailing and the Coasties don't come anywhere close to keeping anyone out. I'm not knocking them, they do a great job, but sailing a boat from Central America to anywhere up and down the coasts or inland up rivers and bays is ridiculously easy to do and not get caught.
I know a guy in Florida who regularly sails back and forth to Cuba and has no problems doing so.
You could multiply the Coast Guard by a factor of 10 and have no effect because they are already spread a lot more thinly than you realize....

Exactly. It's not at all a knock on the Coast Guard: you'd have to deploy them and the Navy to actually cut down on all the people already who can get here by boat much less all the people going that way if the Southern boarder is sealed off with a fulltime military deployment. Nevermind that the deployment would eventually have to extended to the northern border since you can just walk across most of it with no problem.

[LordJezo]

Gym was intense today.

Folks in the sauna were talking about Canadians being double dosed with H1N1 shots.

Parking lot conversations were about 2012 and how the poles being shifted is already known by the military and plans are in action to save themselves when the oceans move.

Out on the gym floor veterans were enraged about how they were being used by corporations like Applebees and their "Free meal for a vet" scam that is basically a free advertisement for them.

Ugh.

Hardly wanted to do any squats because of the depression in the air.

[Serpico1103]

Gym was intense today.
Folks in the sauna were talking about Canadians being double dosed with H1N1 shots.
Parking lot conversations were about 2012 and how the poles being shifted is already known by the military and plans are in action to save themselves when the oceans move.
Out on the gym floor veterans were enraged about how they were being used by corporations like Applebees and their "Free meal for a vet" scam that is basically a free advertisement for them.
Ugh.
Hardly wanted to do any squats because of the depression in the air.

Nice to see you embracing your role as board character.

[LordJezo]

Nice to see you embracing your role as board character.

Once again, how is me reporting on actual conversations the general public has on a daily basis a board character? I only tell you guys what I hear.

[topless_mike]

Hardly wanted to do any squats because of the depression in the air.

you can come squat on my face, if you want.

[Serpico1103]

Once again, how is me reporting on actual conversations the general public has on a daily basis a board character? I only tell you guys what I hear.

Oh, sorry.
I thought you were posting factious paranoid gossip.
Where do you work out- Wash Woman Athletic Club?

I was at the grocery store and I overheard two Vietcong talking about the rampant homosexual activity in saunas at gyms.

[LordJezo]

Oh, sorry.
I thought you were posting factious paranoid gossip.
Where do you work out- Wash Woman Athletic Club?

I was at the grocery store and I overheard two Vietcong talking about the rampant homosexual activity in saunas at gyms.

Now while I might be posting gossip it is gossip that the general public that frequents my gym talks about. We regular folks worry about our future, I am just giving you all a glimpse into the way the everyman thinks with reports on regular every day conversations.

Not making anything up, you all are just blind to the fact that non left wing liberals exist and talk about things in public.

[Serpico1103]

Now while I might be posting gossip it is gossip that the general public that frequents my gym talks about. We regular folks worry about our future, I am just giving you all a glimpse into the way the everyman thinks with reports on regular every day conversations.

Not making anything up, you all are just blind to the fact that non left wing liberals exist and talk about things in public.

Exactly what criteria are you using to define "everyman?" Other than paranoid gym-goer.

[LordJezo]

Exactly what criteria are you using to define "everyman?" Other than paranoid gym-goer.

Regular folks who go to the gym and worry about their lives and future in a post Obama world, talked to a dentist there about the swine flu shot, asked him if it was dangerous since he had to get it. His only response was a solemn "It's too late to worry now."

It's depressing, this time period we live in.

[angrymissy]

Your shtick is so fucking tired already. zzzzzzzzz.

[TheMojoPin]

Your shtick is so fucking tired already. zzzzzzzzz.

His description of his gym makes me crack up every time he talks about it. I wish it was real so he could film all the angry, sexy shenanigans for us to point and laugh at.

[Serpico1103]

Regular folks who go to the gym and worry about their lives and future in a post Obama world, talked to a dentist there about the swine flu shot, asked him if it was dangerous since he had to get it. His only response was a solemn "It's too late to worry now."

It's depressing, this time period we live in.

What time period made you happy?

Who required this imaginary dentist to get a vaccination?

[Kevin]

You lost me at GYM.

You have not seen the inside of a gym your entire life.

[Dude!]

Out on the gym floor veterans were enraged about how they were being used by corporations like Applebees and their "Free meal for a vet" scam that is basically a free advertisement for them.

silly veterans
the free meal promo
is for veterinarians

duh

[LordJezo]

silly veterans
the free meal promo
is for veterinarians

duh

No it's not, it's a bullshit scheme cooked up by people in the corporate headquarters. They knew it would get them free publicity, which it has, so now families will go with the vet relatives to the food joints, buy food they wouldn't have otherwise, and Applebees will increase their profits. They market it as if they care about the military and its being done for the troops. Total scam for the news and other media outlets to promote them for no cost.

[hanso]

You lost me at GYM.

You have not seen the inside of a gym your entire life.

It's code for cult.

[Serpico1103]

No it's not, it's a bullshit scheme cooked up by people in the corporate headquarters. They knew it would get them free publicity, which it has, so now families will go with the vet relatives to the food joints, buy food they wouldn't have otherwise, and Applebees will increase their profits. They market it as if they care about the military and its being done for the troops. Total scam for the news and other media outlets to promote them for no cost.

Seems like a healthy free market at work to me. If the vet's families can't be responsible for their decisions that is not my problem.
Do you want the government to regulate this?
I mean corporations act responsibly, that is why government regulation is unnecessary.
After all, government regulation is what caused the current housing crisis, banks wanted to act responsibly, but they were coerced into creating a recession.

[TheMojoPin]

You lost me at GYM.

You have not seen the inside of a gym your entire life.

He means GYN.

Which is somehow less creepy.

[LordJezo]

Seems like a healthy free market at work to me. If the vet's families can't be responsible for their decisions that is not my problem.
Do you want the government to regulate this?
I mean corporations act responsibly, that is why government regulation is unnecessary.
After all, government regulation is what caused the current housing crisis, banks wanted to act responsibly, but they were coerced into creating a recession.

No, of course the government shouldn't be involved. The large corporations that run this country can play off the naive hopes that the general population has in concepts like good will and charity all they want. If people are dumb enough to think that these places are actually doing something nice for them then let them live in their fantasy world. Keep the masses unaware and happy, they are easier to control that way.

[Serpico1103]

No, of course the government shouldn't be involved. The large corporations that run this country can play off the naive hopes that the general population has in concepts like good will and charity all they want. If people are dumb enough to think that these places are actually doing something nice for them then let them live in their fantasy world. Keep the masses unaware and happy, they are easier to control that way.

"Masses"- gym code word for middle to lower class Republicans that think the Republican party has their interests in mind. Gotcha.

[high fly]

"Masses"- gym code word for middle to lower class Republicans that think the Republican party has their interests in mind. Gotcha.

The ones that can only afford to get in the cheapass country club?

[LordJezo]

"Masses"- gym code word for middle to lower class Republicans that think the Republican party has their interests in mind. Gotcha.

White middle to lower class republicans are the most down trodden people in this country. Everyone is out to get them and they need to live in fear every day of people discovering their political affiliation and outing them to the authorities and congress.

[foodcourtdruide]

White middle to lower class republicans are the most down trodden people in this country. Everyone is out to get them and they need to live in fear every day of people discovering their political affiliation and outing them to the authorities and congress.

Yes. I'm going to call the police and tell them there is a white middle to lower class republican in my neighborhood. Congratulations Jezo, you still say the most insane things on this board.

[epo]

"Masses"- gym code word for middle to lower class Republicans that think the Republican party has their interests in mind. Gotcha.

The middle to lower class republicans are among my favorite rubes in the "carnie/rube" game of life.

[Syd]

The middle to lower class republicans are among my favorite rubes in the "carnie/rube" game of life.

And the middle to lower class overwhelmingly is benefited by electing Democrats, but because corporations can hire fantastic PR firms to spin anything as hurting them when it only hurts profit margins.

[LordJezo]

Today at the gym the the talk was all about the Ukraine biological warfare that's going on and how martial law is being enacted.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/martial-law-declared-in-ukraine-over-mystery-epidemic.html

Fears arose about the same thing coming here to the states if the attacks happen.

One dude at the gym talked about his plans to get a solar generator, he is sure that the power is going to be turned off next year in order to save energy, he's worried about the food in his fridge spoiling and his basement flooding because he wont be able to run his sump pump.

Eventually people started to talk about JFK and how Oswald most likely did not do it. I walked away at that point, it started getting a bit too crazy.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't care what anyone says, Jezo's political posts are the best.

[Kevin]

I don't care what anyone says, Jezo's political posts are the best.



What fucking Gym is he going to that all these issues are coming up?

When i go to the gym, all i hear is who this guy banged the night before or what said sports team did.
Is Jezo going to a gym in the capital or Harvard?

[TheMojoPin]

He's obviously not going to a gym. None of these discussions are real. He's just out there online looking for ridiculous stories or spins on current events that he can post here and then dress up with his silly commentary and scenarios. We should appreciate him going to such lengths for our amusement.

[A.J.]

He's obviously not going to a gym. None of these discussions are real. He's just out there online looking for ridiculous stories or spins on current events that he can post here and then dress up with his silly commentary and scenarios. We should appreciate him going to such lengths for our amusement.

It's a workout...OF THE MIND.

[TheMojoPin]

There are definitely naked pyramids involved.

[LordJezo]

He's obviously not going to a gym.

No sirs, I go to a gym here in New Jersey, I don't make anything up for your enjoyment, I am just posting the conversations as they happen. A lot more has been talked about, only recently have I bothered to post the details so you all could get a glimpse as to what happens in the locker room.

Today I didn't work out as it is an off day, I just hung out in the sauna with a vet and then afterward wandered around the floor for a while covered in sweat. In the sauna I told the vet about how his water bottle is most likely killing him because of BPA and PVC and that he shouldn't have it in the heat. Just yesterday a study was released warning about the chemicals and non functioning penis's.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/11/bpa.erectile.dysfunction/

He said his junk worked just fine. Told him it might only take one more day before he's dead. Was quite the sauna conversation.

[TheMojoPin]

I just hung out in the sauna with a vet and then afterward wandered around the floor for a while covered in sweat.

He said his junk worked just fine. Was quite the sauna conversation.

Like I said, I appreciate the effort you put into these posts. The extra dash of creepy sexiness is a nice/bad touch.

[A.J.]

He said his junk worked just fine.

Did he prove it to you?

[Kevin]

Did he prove it to you?



Duh.....

Of course he did.

Then it recited the Ukrainian national anthem.

[LordJezo]

Like I said, I appreciate the effort you put into these posts. The extra dash of creepy sexiness is a nice/bad touch.

Why is it so hard to believe that some of us actually go on in public and don't praise Obama 24/7? There is a conservative base out there that is not (that) afraid to talk to each other in public about the hard hitting issues of today's society.

How could I ever come up with a story about me sitting in a sauna with a veteran talking about his junk and the effects plastic may have on it? These things are based firmly in reality and are accurate representations of the world we live in and conversations that actually happen.

[Kevin]

Why is it so hard to believe that some of us actually go on in public and don't praise Obama 24/7? There is a conservative base out there that is not (that) afraid to talk to each other in public about the hard hitting issues of today's society.

How could I ever come up with a story about me sitting in a sauna with a veteran talking about his junk and the effects plastic may have on it? These things are based firmly in reality and are accurate representations of the world we live in and conversations that actually happen.



Becauase you are insane.

[topless_mike]

post the details so you all could get a glimpse as to what happens in the locker room.


i dont care about all this political mumbo jumbo, i just want to know more about what goes on in the men's locker room. pix would be most appreciative.

last time i was there, it was tabboo to drop the soap.

[TheMojoPin]

Why is it so hard to believe that some of us actually go on in public and don't praise Obama 24/7? There is a conservative base out there that is not (that) afraid to talk to each other in public about the hard hitting issues of today's society.

Nobody in their right mind goes around expecting "praise" of Obama all the time and everywhere they go. What's so hard to believe is that there's a gym somewhere apparently where all the members are conspiracy theory loons and spend each day having group discussions about the crazy theory du jour. It's simply ridiculous. The actual conservative base isn't comprised of paranoid lunkheads talking about some one world order while doing squat thrusts. It's an amusing scenario you've created, but nobody in their right mind thinks that it's real. That, and we've all seen how fat you are.

[Dude!]

That, and we've all seen how fat you are.

that is so rude
personal attacks are discouraged
here on rf.net

we need to have a mod
follow you around
and clean up your posts

[topless_mike]

that is so rude
personal attacks are discouraged
here on rf.net

we need to have a mod
follow you around
and clean up your posts

mojo is the
supreme ruler
of all. he is the
kim il jong of
rf.net

[TheMojoPin]

that is so rude
personal attacks are discouraged
here on rf.net

we need to have a mod
follow you around
and clean up your posts

I can do what I want, dicknose.

[Dude!]

I can do what I want, dicknose.

you're the dicknose

[TheMojoPin]

That hurts.

[Kevin]

The last poor soul to take on Mojo is burried in a shallow grave next to Obama's house in Chicargo.

[mikeyboy]

Mojo banned me while I was still an admin.

[TheMojoPin]

Mojo banned me while I was still an admin.

The tree of freedom must be watered from time to time with the blood of Guido tyrants.

[Serpico1103]

White middle to lower class republicans are the most down trodden people in this country. Everyone is out to get them and they need to live in fear every day of people discovering their political affiliation and outing them to the authorities and congress.

As they should be. If you vote against your own interests because somehow you think you have more in common with the wealthy than with poor people, I have no sympathy for you.

Today at the gym the the talk was all about the Ukraine biological warfare that's going on and how martial law is being enacted.<---LIE!!!!



Eventually people started to talk about JFK and how Oswald most likely did not do it. I walked away at that point, it started getting a bit too crazy.

So, you are starting to see how your paranoid delusions can be perceived as crazy.

Yesterday at the dojo I overheard a ex-cabinet member discussing the Illuminati's plan to enslave muscle bound gossips; using them as cheap labor and sex slaves.

[LordJezo]

How's it a lie? I posted a link.

[Serpico1103]

Today at the gym the the talk(<-----LIE!!!!!!) was all about the Ukraine biological warfare that's going on and how martial law is being enacted.



How's it a lie? I posted a link.

Sorry, I wasn't clear which part of the statement was a lie.

[LordJezo]

Sorry, I wasn't clear which part of the statement was a lie.

Oh okay, so that post was just about paranoid left wing delusion that people don't discuss hard hitting matters at the gym.

[Serpico1103]

Oh okay, so that post was just about paranoid left wing delusion that people don't discuss hard hitting matters at the gym.

If you are asking if I believe that everyday at your gym there are non-stop discussions about how the world order will shift dramatically soon, than no, people don't "discuss hard hitting matters at the gym."

If you posted once a week one topic mentioned at the gym I would grant you credibility. But, your gym buddies discuss more politics than Fox, MSNBC, and CNN combined.

[high fly]

If you are asking if I believe that everyday at your gym there are non-stop discussions about how the world order will shift dramatically soon, than no, people don't "discuss hard hitting matters at the gym."

If you posted once a week one topic mentioned at the gym I would grant you credibility. But, your gym buddies discuss more politics than Fox, MSNBC, and CNN combined.

I just want to know if any of his locker room buddies have dicks for noses....

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Worst president ever? Lets wait till 2013. However theres a case for worst Mathemetician ever. The man is an economic illiterate

Whats next? I saved 400 trillion jobs. My healthcare plan will save 10 million livers.

More evedince that the 787 billion dollar boondoggle is the biggest waste of tax dollars since the Iraq war


The following is from the Boston Globe

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2009/11/11/stimulus_fund_job_benefits_exaggerated_review_find s/?loc=interstitialskip

[GregoryJoseph]

I believe Obama will be relieved when he's out of the White House.

He had no idea what he was in for.

I think even he would admit he's in waaaaay over his head.

[LordJezo]

It's not like I talk to every single person at the gym, there is a core group that know what is actually happening in the world and talk about these matters. Most people are blissfully ignorant, like when we brought up how the military is preparing for the pole shifts in 2012 to the woman at the front desk who checks you in. She had no idea about any of it and just shrugged her shoulders.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I believe Obama will be relieved when he's out of the White House.

He had no idea what he was in for.

I think even he would admit he's in waaaaay over his head.

Hope and Change is the new Misery

[Serpico1103]

It's not like I talk to every single person at the gym, there is a core group that know what is actually happening in the world and talk about these matters. Most people are blissfully ignorant, like when we brought up how the military is preparing for the pole shifts in 2012 to the woman at the front desk who checks you in. She had no idea about any of it and just shrugged her shoulders.

I hope you and your posse of enlightened meat heads show some compassion for the ignorant sloths you must contend with everyday.

Are the spinning classes or the stairmasters better for tax reform discussions?

[hanso]

It's not like I talk to every single person at the gym, there is a core group that know what is actually happening in the world and talk about these matters. Most people are blissfully ignorant, like when we brought up how the military is preparing for the pole shifts in 2012 to the woman at the front desk who checks you in. She had no idea about any of it and just shrugged her shoulders.

Do you have hand signal/secret hand shakes.
And decoder rings?

How about the controlling of weather? (HARPS)
There has been no storms or hurricanes in many years now.

[midwestjeff]

I haven't read through this thread for a while but has anyone mentioned he's black?

And president.

Scary shit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I haven't read through this thread for a while but has anyone mentioned he's black?

And president.

Scary shit.

Hes half black

Remember in 2007 when they said he wasnt black enough and their gal was Hillary

[Serpico1103]

I haven't read through this thread for a while but has anyone mentioned he's black?
And president.
Scary shit.

A black president? :lol:

Good one.

[Kevin]

I haven't read through this thread for a while but has anyone mentioned he's black?

And president.

Scary shit.

Don't forget he is a Muslim.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Don't forget he is a Muslim.

And a racist

[LordJezo]

How about the controlling of weather? (HARPS)
There has been no storms or hurricanes in many years now.

China doing this has come up a few times.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I love his new idea. A jobs summit next month. If its on a Friday will the Whitehouse provide Khakis and Golf shirts to give it a more business casual look? I remember the staged event with the docs and white labcoats

I can see it now an overpriced meeting of mid level managers and Obama trying to wor a powerpoint

[TheMojoPin]

I love his new idea. A jobs summit next month. If its on a Friday will the Whitehouse provide Khakis and Golf shirts to give it a more business casual look? I remember the staged event with the docs and white labcoats

I can see it now an overpriced meeting of mid level managers and Obama trying to wor a powerpoint

Can't be as bad as you trying to wor a keyboard.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can't be as bad as you trying to wor a keyboard.

Hey at least its not sticky

[mikeyboy]

right...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That SOB Better not overshadow Matsuis return to Japan

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I was wrong. Barry created or saved 1 Job

http://cbs4.com/local/mcdonalds.restaurant.cuba.2.1306032.html

[Syd]

b-rock is at least responsible for 3.5% GDP growth during the stimulus quarter, so he has that going for him with regards to jobs

[Dude!]

b-rock is at least responsible for 3.5% GDP growth during the stimulus quarter, so he has that going for him with regards to jobs

the 3.5% did not create any net jobs
jobs were lost during that quarter
and are still being lost

[IMSlacker]

the 3.5% did not create any net jobs
jobs were lost during that quarter
and are still being lost

But, the rate of job loss is coming down. Which, at least, is something.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5ieXw28ZUpg/SvQ5Z16iD-I/AAAAAAAABZA/uNCZl7nGCQg/s1600-h/unemploy.png

[Dude!]

But, the rate of job loss is coming down. Which, at least, is something.

that's what you call:
the soft bigotry
of low expectations

[IMSlacker]

My pretty graph isn't showing up.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/IMSlacker/unemploy.png

[Dude!]

My pretty graph isn't showing up.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/IMSlacker/unemploy.png

it's showing up for me
and it is very pretty

[high fly]

But, the rate of job loss is coming down. Which, at least, is something.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5ieXw28ZUpg/SvQ5Z16iD-I/AAAAAAAABZA/uNCZl7nGCQg/s1600-h/unemploy.png

Yeah, it was something like 700,000 a month, but I bet the sumbitch is trying to put the brakes on because we all know how much he hates America.
I heard he's gonna change the American flag to have hammer-and-sickles in place of stars...

[Jujubees2]

Yeah, it was something like 700,000 a month, but I bet the sumbitch is trying to put the brakes on because we all know how much he hates America.
I heard he's gonna change the American flag to have hammer-and-sickles in place of stars...

Do you have a problem with that, Comrade?

[yojimbo7248]

I just read that the rabid Obama haters are attacking him for bowing to Japan's emperor. C'mon, seriously?

[GregoryJoseph]

Proletarians unite!

[Dude!]

I just read that the rabid Obama haters are attacking him for bowing to Japan's emperor. C'mon, seriously?

it was just a mistake
obama mistook him
for an imam

[Kevin]

Like Bush kissing and holding hands with the Saudi King?

But that's totaly different, they were just in love.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

it was just a mistake
obama mistook him
for an imam

Shinto, Shi'a its all relative

If He apologizes for Hiroshima and Nagasaki im begging the House to draw up Impeachment proceedings

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Like Bush kissing and holding hands with the Saudi King?

But that's totaly different, they were just in love.

More like a creepy BroMance

[TheMojoPin]

Look at the scum he's bringing in:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/356/oflag.jpg

UNACCEPTABLE.

[Dude!]

Look at the scum he's bringing in:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/356/oflag.jpg

UNACCEPTABLE.

free poltical speech
is never unacceptable

i want me one of those flags

[TheMojoPin]

free poltical speech
is never unacceptable

i want me one of those flags

I knew you were always pro-Obama.

[Dude!]

I knew you were always pro-Obama.

i voted for him
after McCains reaction
to the economic meltdown
was so way off the mark

looking back, big mistake

[TheMojoPin]

Haw-haw! Dude's a liberal. He looooooooooooooooooves Obama.

[yojimbo7248]

i voted for him
after McCains reaction
to the economic meltdown
was so way off the mark

looking back, big mistake

ha! You Obama-lover!

[Kevin]

Dude! He is an Obama lover!

[pennington]

I just read that the rabid Obama haters are attacking him for bowing to Japan's emperor. C'mon, seriously?

Seriously, WTF is this guy thinking?

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091114/capt.a9b065e91c6a4b3cb32ab5b20cd370a5.aptopix_japa n_obama_asia_jpnd105.jpg?x=400&y=284&q=85&sig=Ljydz2nkM596RyI3NldDAw--

[A.J.]

Seriously, WTF is this guy thinking?

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091114/capt.a9b065e91c6a4b3cb32ab5b20cd370a5.aptopix_japa n_obama_asia_jpnd105.jpg?x=400&y=284&q=85&sig=Ljydz2nkM596RyI3NldDAw--

General MacArthur must be rolling over in his grave. I know my grandfather is.

[Kevin]

Seriously, WTF is this guy thinking?

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091114/capt.a9b065e91c6a4b3cb32ab5b20cd370a5.aptopix_japa n_obama_asia_jpnd105.jpg?x=400&y=284&q=85&sig=Ljydz2nkM596RyI3NldDAw--



Respecting other cultures? HOW DARE HE.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Respecting other cultures? HOW DARE HE.

The emperor should have given him the fist bump

[Serpico1103]

General MacArthur must be rolling over in his grave. I know my grandfather is.

You buried him alive? Sick fuck.

[A.J.]

You buried him alive?

In the center of a dead planet for all eternity.

[GregoryJoseph]

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[TheMojoPin]

When I think about it, Dude voting for Obama is probably the most conclusive argument so far to back up this thread.

[Dude!]

When I think about it, Dude voting for Obama is probably the most conclusive argument so far to back up this thread.

i like that.

obama voters are racist

[TheMojoPin]

You diabolical sonuvabitch.

[yojimbo7248]

The emperor should have given him the fist bump

I like to refer to it as a Power to Palestinian People Terrorist Bump or PPPTB

[pennington]

Respecting other cultures? HOW DARE HE.

C'mon. Is there no one competent in his staff?

[hanso]

Respecting other cultures? HOW DARE HE.

Yeah that might start a trend or something.
Should nip that in the bud.
Would be better to barf on the guy in a dinner function.



Keep Hate Alive.

[ImNotGvac]

General MacArthur must be rolling over in his grave. I know my grandfather is.

http://www.evervigilant.net/uploaded_images/bush_hold_hands-785050.jpg

[hanso]

http://www.evervigilant.net/uploaded_images/bush_hold_hands-785050.jpg

That's the head muck muck from Saudi.This photo was shot was not long after 911. When we knew that was the country the attackers were from.
Made me feel real safe.

[A.J.]

http://www.evervigilant.net/uploaded_images/bush_hold_hands-785050.jpg

Saudi Arabia gave us the oil we needed to defeat Imperial Japan and the Nazi war machine.

Shukran, King 'Abd Al-'Aziz!

http://cojs.org/cojswiki/images/6/61/Ibn_Saud_and_FDR.jpg

[A.J.]

That's the head muck muck from Saudi.This photo was shot was not long after 911. When we knew that was the country the attackers were from.
Made me feel real safe.

Actually, it was from 2005. And Saudi Arabia has done a pretty good job of wiping out terrorists.

[Serpico1103]

Actually, it was from 2005. And Saudi Arabia has done a pretty good job of wiping out terrorists.

It is easy for them to find the terrorists. They just look up their addresses in the payroll.

[hanso]

Actually, it was from 2005. And Saudi Arabia has done a pretty good job of wiping out terrorists.

There were a few or more visits.
One took place not long after 911.

I think it was with Prince Bandar Bush.
He looked like Col. Sanders back then.
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Here he shows he can pass the buck as good as Dubya had.

[A.J.]

There were a few or more visits.
One took place not long after 911.

You're right. There was one on April 25, 2002 when he was Crown Prince. The Crawford visit in 2005 was his first visit to the U.S. as King.

[A.J.]

There were a few or more visits.
One took place not long after 911.

I think it was with Prince Bandar Bush.

Prince Bandar was Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. at the time so it really wasn't a "visit" since he lived here.

[hanso]

I see. The two princes always mixed me up.
And calling him Bush didn't help matters

Then again maybe it was the elder of the family.
He looked like Col. Sanders with white goatee way back then.

At any rate he having been so close with ties to the royal family.
Did not make me feel any safer back then. As everyone on the right was stating . That we were better of than Gore would have been.

Who knows maybe Gore would have told them what to do with their oil. And started a green policy back then like what we have in the works now.

[TheMojoPin]

I see. The two princes always mixed me up.
And calling him Bush didn't help matters

Then again maybe it was the elder of the family.
He looked like Col. Sanders with white goatee way back then.

HANSO, GO EXPLAIN YOUR INSANE FOOD THREAD NOW.

[hanso]

Saudi Arabia gave us the oil we needed to defeat Imperial Japan and the Nazi war machine.

Shukran, King 'Abd Al-'Aziz!

http://cojs.org/cojswiki/images/6/61/Ibn_Saud_and_FDR.jpg

I belive Russia had stockpiles of oil as well.

[hanso]

HANSO, GO EXPLAIN YOUR INSANE FOOD THREAD NOW.

Screw them man.
As if no one has stepped foot in a market.
Football games are on now

[TheMojoPin]

Screw them man.
As if no one has stepped foot in a market.
Football games are on now

You posted crazy talk. It needs to be translated. We want to understand.

[foodcourtdruide]

You posted crazy talk. It needs to be translated. We want to understand.


My favorite part of the post is when he mentions Native Americans for no apparent reason.

[angrymissy]

Holy crap, Fox is really trying to get Obama for bowing to the JAPANESE now? WTF.

[epo]

Holy crap, Fox is really trying to get Obama for bowing to the JAPANESE now? WTF.

Foreign cultures are scary!

GIT R DONE!

[HBox]

For every person Obama meets who isn't an American he should whip his dick out and smack them in the face with it. Anything else shows weakness.

[KatPw]

So have people forgotten that bowing is how the Japanese greet each other? How dare a culture completely different than our own not adhere to the same social and cultural norms! Someone better inform the masses that sometimes Europeans greet others by kissing each cheek, lest we end up launching WWIII over it.

[boosterp]

So have people forgotten that bowing is how the Japanese greet each other? How dare a culture completely different than our own not adhere to the same social and cultural norms! Someone better inform the masses that sometimes Europeans greet others by kissing each cheek, lest we end up launching WWIII over it.

No shit, it is a sign of respect not unlike the handshake.

[angrymissy]

Well what I saw on Fox today was - "AMERICANS bow to NO ONE, it's our TRADITION".

So they're saying Americans should be assholes and not respect others cultures... if that's the case, I'm glad Obama broke this "tradition". I'm sick of this cowboy we're better than everyone else bullshit.

[TheMojoPin]

For every person Obama meets who isn't an American he should whip his dick out and smack them in the face with it. Anything else shows weakness.

Fox would then just complain that he's showing off how impressive his schlong is.

[Kevin]

Fox would then just complain that he's showing off how impressive his schlong is.



He is half white....

Can it be that impressive?

[TheMojoPin]

He is half white....

Can it be that impressive?

Not everyone is Albanian, young Kevin.

[Kevin]

Not everyone is Albanian, young Kevin.



Well if he was half Albanian half black, his dong would make horses jelous.

[boosterp]

Well what I saw on Fox today was - "AMERICANS bow to NO ONE, it's our TRADITION".

So they're saying Americans should be assholes and not respect others cultures... if that's the case, I'm glad Obama broke this "tradition". I'm sick of this cowboy we're better than everyone else bullshit.

Don't you slander us cowboys like that! GW was a wanna-be.

[badmonkey]

On President Obama's Bow to the Japanese Emperor, An Academic Friend Writes That Both the Left and the Right Are Wrong (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/11/on-president-obamas-bow-to-the-japanese-emperor-an-academic-friend-writes-that-both-the-left-and-the-right-are-wrong.html)

"His bow is neither (1) unprecedented nor (2) a sign of cultural understanding.

"At their 1971 meeting in Alaska, the first visit of a Japanese Emperor to America, President Nixon bowed and referred to Emperor Hirohito and his wife repeatedly as 'Your Imperial Majesties.'"

"Yet, (and?) Nixon gets the bow right. Slight arch from the waist hands at his side.

"The bow as he performed did not just display weakness in Red State terms, but evoked weakness in Japanese terms....The last thing the Japanese want or need is a weak looking American president and, again, in all ways, he unintentionally played that part.

"BTW, Obama's bow at Suntory Hall was much better. Correct angle, slight bow. His hands were wrong but the physical tone was correct and appropriate.

[TheMojoPin]

Interesting read. NEVER COUNT OUT NIXON! HAAAARRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[A.J.]

Interesting read. NEVER COUNT OUT NIXON! HAAAARRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

We need him now more than ever!

[angrymissy]

I can agree with some of that, it does seem like he went for an overthetop omg it's Japanese people bow... embarrassing in the sense that he overdid it because they're Japanese... but what I'm seeing on TV and the internet is people disgusted that he bowed at all, because "Americans don't bow to leaders of other countries".

[SinA]

I report, you decide.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4110193306_58d42aabf8_o.jpg

[badmonkey]

I can agree with some of that, it does seem like he went for an overthetop omg it's Japanese people bow... embarrassing in the sense that he overdid it because they're Japanese... but what I'm seeing on TV and the internet is people disgusted that he bowed at all, because "Americans don't bow to leaders of other countries".

Americans don't bow down to or bow down before leaders of other countries. We also do not expect leaders of our countries to bow down to or bow down before our leaders because our President is not royalty. If Obama wants to bow, he should learn to do it properly so it doesn't appear that he is bowing down to another country's leader. His people would do better if they just said "one of our people told him it was appropriate to bow and he was bowing in the manner that they demonstrated". Their whole "he didn't bow" crap just makes it worse because everybody can see the picture and see that he did bow. It's like George Bush Sr's staff coming out and saying "he didn't puke on the emperor. he just got some sauce on his chin while eating and people are just being hypercritical to make him look bad." Obama's staff should take the blame for the fuck up and then just teach him how to do it properly so they can quit making excuses for it.

[angrymissy]

Americans don't bow down to or bow down before leaders of other countries. We also do not expect leaders of our countries to bow down to or bow down before our leaders because our President is not royalty. If Obama wants to bow, he should learn to do it properly so it doesn't appear that he is bowing down to another country's leader. His people would do better if they just said "one of our people told him it was appropriate to bow and he was bowing in the manner that they demonstrated". Their whole "he didn't bow" crap just makes it worse because everybody can see the picture and see that he did bow. It's like George Bush Sr's staff coming out and saying "he didn't puke on the emperor. he just got some sauce on his chin while eating and people are just being hypercritical to make him look bad." Obama's staff should take the blame for the fuck up and then just teach him how to do it properly so they can quit making excuses for it.

You say Americans don't bow, but you just posted an article about Nixon bowing...

I don't go for that "Americans don't bow" when it comes to a culture where people bow. That's ridiculous my dick is bigger than yours bullshit. This whole deal is just another bout of manufactured outrage. Big whoop, his bowing angle was off.

[TheMojoPin]

You say Americans don't bow, but you just posted an article about Nixon bowing...

I don't go for that "Americans don't bow" when it comes to a culture where people bow. That's ridiculous my dick is bigger than yours bullshit. This whole deal is just another bout of manufactured outrage. Big whoop, his bowing angle was off.

Well, that is a pretty stupid mistake. If they want to respect the culture, research how to respect it correctly. It's not difficult to do.

[angrymissy]

Was it a mistake? Yes. Was it the slap in the face to America I saw them discussing on Fox this AM? Nope.

[badmonkey]

You say Americans don't bow, but you just posted an article about Nixon bowing...

I don't go for that "Americans don't bow" when it comes to a culture where people bow. That's ridiculous my dick is bigger than yours bullshit. This whole deal is just another bout of manufactured outrage. Big whoop, his bowing angle was off.

I said we "don't bow down". And we don't expect anybody to "bow down to us". I'm not sure what that has to do with dick size. Our President is not royalty so nobody bows to him, including other world leaders. It's mutual and doesn't require any dick measurement at all.

There's a huge difference between a bow of mutual respect and the deep humbled bow of a peasant before royalty.

[angrymissy]

I said we "don't bow down". And we don't expect anybody to "bow down to us". I'm not sure what that has to do with dick size. Our President is not royalty so nobody bows to him, including other world leaders. It's mutual and doesn't require any dick measurement at all.

There's a huge difference between a bow of mutual respect and the deep humbled bow of a peasant before royalty.

Gotcha. Your problem then, is with the deepness of the bow, rather than the fact that he bowed at all. What I find ridiculous, is that people are pissed that he even bowed at all.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It wasnt a bow. It was simply appreciation for Matsui having a monster game 6

[HBox]

I'm officially done being surprised by the trivial bullshit that becomes an issue. If tomorrow a firestorm starts over how Obama ties his shoes I won't be surprised. it will be exactly the political discourse this country deserves at the moment.

[badmonkey]

I'm officially done being surprised by the trivial bullshit that becomes an issue. If tomorrow a firestorm starts over how Obama ties his shoes I won't be surprised. it will be exactly the political discourse this country deserves at the moment.

I heard he doesn't even tie his shoes. He wears penny loafers with these (http://www.dhm.de/gifs/sammlungen/kunst2/numismatik/marx.jpg) in the penny slots.

http://www.dhm.de/gifs/sammlungen/kunst2/numismatik/marx.jpg (http://www.dhm.de/gifs/sammlungen/kunst2/numismatik/marx.jpg)

[Syd]

I'm officially done being surprised by the trivial bullshit that becomes an issue. If tomorrow a firestorm starts over how Obama ties his shoes I won't be surprised. it will be exactly the political discourse this country deserves at the moment.

The ridiculousness of Grayson saying the GOP will be up in arms over Obama eating a BLT is becoming more and more truthful. The GOP propaganda machine isn't really working too well and with this trend continuing it won't bode well for the elections.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The ridiculousness of Grayson saying the GOP will be up in arms over Obama eating a BLT is becoming more and more truthful. The GOP propaganda machine isn't really working too well and with this trend continuing it won't bode well for the elections.

He's Muslim hes forbiddent o eat a BLT

[Syd]

He's Muslim hes forbiddent o eat a BLT

His stand-in will eat it, how do you think he managed to drink a beer with the professor and cop?

[badmonkey]

His stand-in will eat it, how do you think he managed to drink a beer with the professor and cop?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ICov%2Bc9bL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
I'm not so sure they have an issue with beer anymore. (http://www.amazon.com/ISLAM-Beer-Cascading-Wall-Clock/dp/B0018X7QF0)

[KatPw]

He's Muslim hes forbiddent o eat a BLT

They substitute in turkey bacon. It's Allah approved.

[keithy_19]

I understand what Obama was doing, but his bow just looked bad.

It was like he was doing his curtain call for his last high school play.

[keithy_19]

They substitute in turkey bacon. It's Allah approved.

:lol::lol::lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama needed a light


http://americanthinker.com/images/includes/737.gif

[A.J.]

"Oba-mao"

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/news/2009/11/17/obamao-pd.jpg

[Serpico1103]

1) Doesn't put hand on heart during pledge of allegiance
2) Stares at under age girls' asses
3) Doesn't wear US flag pin
4) Bows to Emperor of Japan

We are doomed!

[Dude!]

1) Doesn't put hand on heart during pledge of allegiance
2) Stares at under age girls' asses
3) Doesn't wear US flag pin
4) Bows to Emperor of Japan

We are doomed!

5. bankrupts country
6. turns America over to the mullahs

[GregoryJoseph]

I remember posting how amusing I found it that every election there was someone that people really got behind, went to rallies, campaigned, pumped their fists in the air, etc. and said "This guy is DIFFERENT!"

I wondered why people are so gullible and fall for the same act time and time again and I was accused of being "jaded."

Not so, just someone who has seen it before. Dozens of times.

I can't wait to see who the "fresh, exciting, amazing" new candidate is in 2012...

[TheMojoPin]

Gvac has seen "dozens" of presidential elections?

Jesus Christ.

Even just one dozen puts you at 48.

[GregoryJoseph]

Gvac has seen "dozens" of presidential elections?

Jesus Christ.

Even just one dozen puts you at 48.

I said "elections" not "Presidential elections."

Poor, poor Mojo.

You always read into things.

You really have to learn to cultivate an unbiased view.

[badmonkey]

Gvac has seen "dozens" of presidential elections?

Jesus Christ.

Even just one dozen puts you at 48.

That's what makes him so fresh, exciting, amazing and different.

[Kevin]

5. bankrupts country
6. turns America over to the mullahs



Ummm no....

Bush was the one that bankrupted the country... In fact... Thats mostly the case when any Rep is in Office.

[TheMojoPin]

I said "elections" not "Presidential elections."

Poor, poor Mojo.

You always read into things.

You really have to learn to cultivate an unbiased view.

"Dozens" of any collection of elections would still make you very, very old.

And "all politicians are bad" is not an unbiased view.

[badmonkey]

Ummm no....

Bush was the one that bankrupted the country... In fact... Thats mostly the case when any Rep is in Office.

Yeah! Obama's gonna spend us outta this bankruptcy! That's mostly the case when any Dem is in Office.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah! Obama's gonna spend us outta this bankruptcy! That's mostly the case when any Dem is in Office.

Thank God.

[GregoryJoseph]

"Dozens" of any collection of elections would still make you very, very old.

I bet you've seen dozens of elections.

Congressmen?

Senators?

Mayors?

In case you didn't know, Reps get elected every 2 years.

Do some research.

[epo]

I bet you've seen dozens of elections.

Congressmen?

Senators?

Mayors?

In case you didn't know, Reps get elected every 2 years.

Do some research.

I note your use of the word "dozens" and you use the example of the House of Representatives. These dozens (I'll assume 2) at every two years gives me the following equation:

Gregory Joseph = Dozens (2+?) * 12 * 2

[TheMojoPin]

I bet you've seen dozens of elections.

Congressmen?

Senators?

Mayors?

In case you didn't know, Reps get elected every 2 years.

Do some research.

Have dozens of elections occured in my lifetime? Of course. Have I "seen" or followed or participated in dozens of them, as your post clearly implied (how else would you have come to what you see as such a learned and experienced opinion)? Have I tracked and examined the legislatives craeers of dozens of people elected during my life, which you'd think would be a key part of making a claim like yours? Of course not. And neither have you.

No need to dress up your apathy.

[GregoryJoseph]

Mojo Can't Read!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Quiet, you.

[Dude!]

Have dozens of elections occured in my lifetime? Of course. Have I "seen" or followed or participated in dozens of them, as your post clearly implied (how else would you have come to what you see as such a learned and experienced opinion)? Have I tracked and examined the legislatives craeers of dozens of people elected during my life, which you'd think would be a key part of making a claim like yours? Of course not. And neither have you.

No need to dress up your apathy.

oh come on
there were 6 congressional elections
during your college years

[Kevin]

Yeah! Obama's gonna spend us outta this bankruptcy! That's mostly the case when any Dem is in Office.

You do the math..

After Reagen, we were shit, After Bush 1, we were shit, after Clinton,.... Good shape... After Bush 2... SHIT.

[Dude!]

You do the math..

After Reagen, we were shit, After Bush 1, we were shit, after Clinton,.... Good shape... After Bush 2... SHIT.

after Carter?

[mikeyboy]

after Carter?

strange edit...

[Dude!]

strange edit...

i didn't edit anything

[IMSlacker]

i didn't edit anything

Kevin did.

[SonOfSmeagol]

There's a huge difference between a bow of mutual respect and the deep humbled bow of a peasant before royalty.

There's that, but in the end he just looked like a douche.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

See how the recovery is doing. I never knew some states had so many districts


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/congress-cheats-itself-stimulus-tracker-finds-2009-11-17?siteid=rss&rss=1

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bow to the Saudi King, Bow to the emperor of Japan, a more fitting gesture to china would be begging on his knees to the Chinese President asking for more cash

http://cagle.com/news/ObamaBow/1.asp

[The Jays]

Obviously, America's huge debt to China only started when Obama came into office. Everyone else gets a free pass because we were fightin' terror and rebuilding hurricane-struck cities. And now that Osama has been captured and New Orleans is back on top of the world, we should totally tighten the belt and focus on the issues that matter, like stopping gay people from marrying, women from getting abortions, and deporting Mexicans so that white people can cook our food, build our houses, and stand on the corner and get picked up in trucks for the day's work.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obviously, America's huge debt to China only started when Obama came into office. Everyone else gets a free pass because we were fightin' terror and rebuilding hurricane-struck cities. And now that Osama has been captured and New Orleans is back on top of the world, we should totally tighten the belt and focus on the issues that matter, like stopping gay people from marrying, women from getting abortions, and deporting Mexicans so that white people can cook our food, build our houses, and stand on the corner and get picked up in trucks for the day's work.

Lets call everything pre Obama years as BO Before Obama

Quadrupling down on Bushs stupidity really doesnt make too much sense, This economy keeps going down the drain Americans will be hopping the border into Mexico

China owns us they own trillions of our treasury bonds, but dont worry, those pesky 5% rich people will finance everything

[Syd]

The point is no one really cared about Bush's wild budget deficit and careless wars. It wasn't until the corporate puppetmasters at NewsCorp started to get their huddled white masses worked up into a fury people suddenly become disciples of Smith.

[GregoryJoseph]

He's looking very sickly these days - thin, pale, and graying at a phenomenal rate.

I wonder if he's seriously ill or just stressed...

[SonOfSmeagol]

Iran announced on Wednesday it would not export its enriched uranium for further processing, effectively rejecting the latest plan brokered by the International Atomic Energy Agency (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iRqjZV1Meppj40hTs8IBOv4DdsQwD9C2RLM01)

“President Barack Obama said Thursday that the six nations dealing with Iran's nuclear program will develop a package of serious new punitive measures in coming weeks.”

(cough)

[Dude!]

He's looking very sickly these days - thin, pale, and graying at a phenomenal rate.

I wonder if he's seriously ill or just stressed...

are you suggesting
the aids?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The point is no one really cared about Bush's wild budget deficit and careless wars. It wasn't until the corporate puppetmasters at NewsCorp started to get their huddled white masses worked up into a fury people suddenly become disciples of Smith.

Fiscal conservatives like me did care. Billions were handed to companies like ADM in corporate welfare for ethanol subsidies

On the other hand the corporate whores who work for GE like Queef Olberdouche at 30 Rock who said Bush squandered the clinton surplus say deficits don't matter anymore

Now that their man is at 1600 Penn everythings ok by them

[TheMojoPin]

Fiscal conservatives like me did care.

If you did you sure didn't feel motivated to ever share it here.

[TheMojoPin]

Iran announced on Wednesday it would not export its enriched uranium for further processing, effectively rejecting the latest plan brokered by the International Atomic Energy Agency (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iRqjZV1Meppj40hTs8IBOv4DdsQwD9C2RLM01)

“President Barack Obama said Thursday that the six nations dealing with Iran's nuclear program will develop a package of serious new punitive measures in coming weeks.”

(cough)

Why not? What's the rush? You seem to be implying that they need to be acting like nuclear war with Iran is right around the corner. That's probably the absolute worst way this situation can be approached.

[HBox]

Why not? What's the rush? You seem to be implying that they need to be acting like nuclear war with Iran is right around the corner. That's probably the absolute worst way this situation can be approached.

He should have nuked them before they finished typing out the statement.