2011-12 NFL Season

[Justice4all]

MIN may be in need of a QB.

What''s wrong with Collins? How come he's not the starter on Tenn. now?

[hanso]

What''s wrong with Collins? How come he's not the starter on Tenn. now?

Think they start who ever is hurt less.

[epo]

What''s wrong with Collins? How come he's not the starter on Tenn. now?

Age 37, never very good.

[epo]

Great throw by Manning, terrible job by Nicks.

[Justice4all]

Great throw by Manning, terrible job by Nicks.

Yep

[Justice4all]

That's great guys...leave Jackson wide open all night like that and we're gonna burn for it.

[epo]

Let's face it, the Giants have a solid D but Vick is plaulying ridiculous football right now.

It will be interesting to see if the Giants can contain him with all those weapons.

[Justice4all]

That's great guys...leave Jackson wide open all night like that and we're gonna burn for it.

X 2

[Justice4all]

Let's face it, the Giants have a solid D but Vick is plaulying ridiculous football right now.

It will be interesting to see if the Giants can contain him with all those weapons.

this is the best he's ever played I think

[epo]

this is the best he's ever played I think

This water I'm drinking is wet.

[Justice4all]

Ahhh FUCK!

Nice NON CALL On Jackson for that hold!

[TheGameHHH]

I hate owning Vick and playing against him the same week

[Justice4all]

This water I'm drinking is wet.

When I open the freezer it's cold in there

[epo]

Every time I watch the playcalls by the Giants on offense, I understand why Buddy Ryan took a swing at Kevin Gilbride a little more.

[Justice4all]

Didn't that hit look like a helmet to helmet?

[epo]

That was Wil Blackmon, former defensive backfield mate of Aaron Rouse.

You're welcome.

[Justice4all]

The run game isn't working...WHY DO THEY KEEP TRYING IT?

[Justice4all]

ELI YOU ARE THE FUCKING WORST! You're KILLING ME YOU REDNECK FUCK!

[epo]

ELI YOU ARE THE FUCKING WORST! You're KILLING ME YOU REDNECK FUCK!

Actually that was more about Asante Samuel than it was Eli.

[epo]

The Giants have had good luck so far. Id argue that they should be down 21-3.

[epo]

I know that Justice bitches about Eli, but seriously these receivers are garbage. I'm shocked his numbers are as good as they are.

[Justice4all]

The Giants have had good luck so far. Id argue that they should be down 21-3.

Oh yes...agreed. Those two drops were sheer luck for the Giants.

we need to be in Vicks face ALL night.

[Justice4all]

Actually that was more about Asante Samuel than it was Eli.

I don't ever see Eli scanning the field for other options.

[HBox]

MEGAGIGABYTES SON!

[epo]

I don't ever see Eli scanning the field for other options.

I don't see that point at all. That play was a good read by Eli & Samuel. If you noticed that WR ran a bad route and Samuel took advantage of it.

[Justice4all]

I don't see that point at all. That play was a good read by Eli & Samuel. If you noticed that WR ran a bad route and Samuel took advantage of it.

You may be right, but again, when you see a tightly defended receiver you look for the other ones...or am I wrong on that one?

[epo]

You may be right, but again, when you see a tightly defended receiver you look for the other ones...or am I wrong on that one?

When Eli threw it didn't appear to be tight as Samuel plays loose. Thats to Samuel's credit that he closes that fast. Also the WR didn't run a tight route, which gave Samuel the window for the pick.

The way Eli read it, it should have been a quick gain and he was right. However the WR gave Samuel a classic opportunity and he is good enough to take advantage of it.

[epo]

That was a helmet to helmet by the Giants that sprung that ball. Poor bastard looks KO'd.

[HBox]

Yeah, call that one hit on Samuel before but THAT was totally fine. Yeah. Sure. Fucking incompetent shitheads.

[Justice4all]

Wow what a shot on the returner. Hobbs I think it is. He just got knocked the hell out.
This is turning into a classic Giants-Eagles game with all these hits.

[HBox]

And that bullshit call on the Austin Collie hit. And that bullshit call when Trent Cole grazed Peyton Manning's helmet.

But that was totally fine.

[epo]

I'm glad they are calling helmet-to-helmet hits, but they've got to be more consistent. Especially on OBVIOUS hits like that.

[HBox]

Oh. So that WAS legal. That's legal, and the hit before with Samuel where he barely hit the helmet was illegal?

These rules the NFL has on concussions make no sense. They better take a long fucking look at this shit in the offseason if there are really concerned with the safety of the players.

[Justice4all]

That was a helmet to helmet by the Giants that sprung that ball. Poor bastard looks KO'd.

For a fast second I thought I watched someone die on live TV again. The way his body hit the ground and his neck snapped to the side after the hit. It was just scary.

[Snoogans]

For a fast second I thought I watched someone die on live TV again. The way his body hit the ground and his neck snapped to the side after the hit. It was just scary.

who died on live tv?

[Justice4all]

who died on live tv?

When Dale Earnhardt died in, I think it was, the Daytona 500. Of course we didn't know that he died in that crash until later. The guy at work was watching it. It was the final turn. We all know what happened then. But yea...it was live TV and he died.

[Snoogans]

When Dale Earnhardt died in, I think it was, the Daytona 500. Of course we didn't know that he died in that crash until later. The guy at work was watching it. It was the final turn. We all know what happened then. But yea...it was live TV and he died.

oh. I thought you were talkin again like again in football

[spoon]

Spoon, Buffalo isn't really THAT bad of a team. I knew they wouldn't go 0-16. But it looked like a good comeback by Buffalo. Then again I don't know if it's a testament to the will of Buffalo or how the spiral downward of Cincy continues.

You KNEW, as in it's very fucking rare to go without a win? Come on Tom, I want to hear your "predictions" not just some hindsight bullshit.

Also, Cincy sucks, has sucked and will continue to suck whether they have a lucky year here or there or not. To say they are in a "spiral downward" is funny. I don't know what "THAT bad of a team" means, or who thought it? Yet any pro team with that type of lead should never end up losing by that margin in the end. It was fucking pathetic to say the least. My father is a poor Bengals fan and he has sounded like a broken record since the days of Ken Anderson or even some success with Boomer. It's sad how badly coached that team is and seemingly went completely away from the system that got them to the playoffs for the first time in a long time. Pick up TO we have to pass?! WTF Cincy?

[Justice4all]

oh. I thought you were talkin again like again in football

No sorry. I don't really know any examples of anyone who died on TV in football. None come to mind anyway.

Dennis Byrd is the one of the major injuries what was a live shot that I remember.

[Snoogans]

No sorry. I don't really know any examples of anyone who died on TV in football. None come to mind anyway.

Dennis Byrd is the one of the major injuries what was a live shot that I remember.

You have to go all the way back to dennis byrd? Ever heard of a kid named Eric LeGrand?

[Justice4all]

You KNEW, as in it's very fucking rare to go without a win? Come on Tom, I want to hear your "predictions" not just some hindsight bullshit.

Also, Cincy sucks, has sucked and will continue to suck whether they have a lucky year here or there or not. To say they are in a "spiral downward" is funny. I don't know what "THAT bad of a team" means, or who thought it? Yet any pro team with that type of lead should never end up losing by that margin in the end. It was fucking pathetic to say the least. My father is a poor Bengals fan and he has sounded like a broken record since the days of Ken Anderson or even some success with Boomer. It's sad how badly coached that team is and seemingly went completely away from the system that got them to the playoffs for the first time in a long time. Pick up TO we have to pass?! WTF Cincy?

ok I should have clarified. I meant their record didn't reflect what kind of team they really were. (But I am sure you, and everyone else knew that)
I'm not shocked that they beat Cincy. I AM shocked that they beat them by that much (like you were)

And yes, spiral downward. This is, supposed to be, the same team that made it into the playoffs last year yes? With the addition of T.O., who is playing damn good football of late (I don't know what his day was like today). People predicted them to do MUCH better then they are this season.

And if you want to hear my predictions, go to the pick-em league on Yahoo we're in. It's pretty much right there for the world to see.

[spoon]

In reality, most of the time the Giants are short both their top possession receivers as Boss is being used a LOT as an extra blocker on passing plays due to a banged up line and Reid's propensity to blitz with numbers and often.

[Justice4all]

You have to go all the way back to dennis byrd? Ever heard of a kid named Eric LeGrand?

again, I should have clarified, I meant only in the pro level. I know about Eric, hell it was only what...2 months ago?

And I think Rutgers isn't broadcast like the Jets are and were. So more people could have seen Byrd's hit.

[spoon]

This set of plays might be the first series I've seen them utilize Boss OFF the line and they really need to get him involved underneath.

[Justice4all]

Really good stat NBC had about how Coughlin always does great out of the starting gate and the last two months really shitty.

[spoon]

yah, like that time they won the super bowl

that was what exactly happened

Thank God for NBC stats!

[Snoogans]

again, I should have clarified, I meant only in the pro level. I know about Eric, hell it was only what...2 months ago?

And I think Rutgers isn't broadcast like the Jets are and were. So more people could have seen Byrd's hit.

the game he got hurt in was on ESPN vs Army and replayed about 1000 times. Im sure people saw it.

But ok just NFL, how bout the guy 2 years ago in buffalo, or the kid earlier this year in detroit. this shit happens alot, thats the reason the NFL is claiming to crackdown on helmet to helmet

[spoon]

i hate these pussy 15 yard penalties

it's a shame games are influenced by shit calls like that late

what a fucking dive

[spoon]

Here comes Vick's first pick of the year.

[Justice4all]

yah, like that time they won the super bowl

that was what exactly happened

Thank God for NBC stats!



November 18 1:00 p.m.[e][3] Fox at Detroit Lions W 16-10 Ford Field Recap
November 25 1:00 p.m. Fox vs Minnesota Vikings L 41-17 Giants Stadium Recap
December 2 4:15 p.m. Fox at Chicago Bears W 21-16 Soldier Field Recap14 December 9 1:00 p.m. Fox at Philadelphia Eagles W 16-13 Lincoln Financial Field
December 16 8:15 p.m. NBC vs Washington Redskins L 22-10 Giants Stadium
December 23 1:00 p.m. Fox at Buffalo Bills W 38-21 Ralph Wilson Stadium Recap
December 29 8:15 p.m. NFLN[f] vs New England Patriots L 38-35 Giants
Second half of the 2007 Super Bowl season.
4-4

September 9 8:15 p.m. NBC at Dallas Cowboys L 45-35 Texas Stadium

September 16 1:00 p.m. Fox vs Green Bay Packers L 35-13 Giants Stadium

September 23 4:15 p.m. Fox at Washington Redskins W 24-17 FedExField

September 30 8:15 p.m. NBC vs Philadelphia Eagles W 16-3 Giants Stadium

October 7 1:00 p.m. CBS vs New York Jets W 35-24 Giants Stadium[b]

October 15 8:30 p.m. ESPN[c] @ Atlanta Falcons W 31-10 Georgia Dome

October 21 1:00 p.m. Fox vs San Francisco 49ers W 33-15 Giants Stadium

October 28 1:00 p.m. Fox at Miami Dolphins W 13-10 Wembley Stadium
1st Half of the season.
6-2

There ya go.
Just talking regular season mind you. As soon as the postseason came the D played like they were the 85 bears

Same thing as every year.

[Snoogans]

Here comes Vick's first pick of the year.

good enough. Ive still been pretty impressed by vick tonight. If his WRs were more focused, his stats would be even better

[Snoogans]

November 18 1:00 p.m.[e][3] Fox at Detroit Lions W 16-10 Ford Field Recap
November 25 1:00 p.m. Fox vs Minnesota Vikings L 41-17 Giants Stadium Recap
December 2 4:15 p.m. Fox at Chicago Bears W 21-16 Soldier Field Recap14 December 9 1:00 p.m. Fox at Philadelphia Eagles W 16-13 Lincoln Financial Field
December 16 8:15 p.m. NBC vs Washington Redskins L 22-10 Giants Stadium
December 23 1:00 p.m. Fox at Buffalo Bills W 38-21 Ralph Wilson Stadium Recap
December 29 8:15 p.m. NFLN[f] vs New England Patriots L 38-35 Giants
Second half of the 2007 Super Bowl season.
4-4

September 9 8:15 p.m. NBC at Dallas Cowboys L 45-35 Texas Stadium September 16 1:00 p.m. Fox vs Green Bay Packers L 35-13 Giants Stadium September 23 4:15 p.m. Fox at Washington Redskins W 24-17 FedExField September 30 8:15 p.m. NBC vs Philadelphia Eagles W 16-3 Giants Stadium October 7 1:00 p.m. CBS vs New York Jets W 35-24 Giants Stadium October 15 8:30 p.m. ESPN[c] @ Atlanta Falcons W 31-10 Georgia Dome October 21 1:00 p.m. Fox vs San Francisco 49ers W 33-15 Giants Stadium October 28 1:00 p.m. Fox at Miami Dolphins W 13-10 Wembley Stadium
1st Half of the season.
6-2

[B]There ya go.
Just talking regular season mind you. As soon as the postseason came the D played like they were the 85 bears

Same thing as every year.

ummm, seriously Tom? You watch every game you said. But then you act like that SB run was all defense. Funny how quick you forget Eli playing almost a perfect game in the NFC championship AT GREEN BAY in like -10 degrees. He played so well he made green bay realize favre was a bum and let him go.

Again, you might watch, but you clearly dont pay attention. The defense won the SB, the game itself, but Eli had a TON to do with gettin there. a TON

[Justice4all]

the game he got hurt in was on ESPN vs Army and replayed about 1000 times. Im sure people saw it.

But ok just NFL, how bout the guy 2 years ago in buffalo, or the kid earlier this year in detroit. this shit happens alot, thats the reason the NFL is claiming to crackdown on helmet to helmet

100% Agree

[spoon]

more shit from manning

[Justice4all]

ummm, seriously Tom? You watch every game you said. But then you act like that SB run was all defense. Funny how quick you forget Eli playing almost a perfect game in the NFC championship AT GREEN BAY in like -10 degrees. He played so well he made green bay realize favre was a bum and let him go.

Again, you might watch, but you clearly dont pay attention. The defense won the SB, the game itself, but Eli had a TON to do with gettin there. a TON


The D is the main reason we WON the Super Bowl. They held one of the most potent offenses to under 17 points!

But I will agree Eli did have a fantastic game in the NFC Championship. You are right about that one.

And I wasn't trying to do my usual Eli rants. I was only trying to back up the stat (which I agree with) that, for some reason with Coughlin, he always has a par or sub-par second half of a season.

[spoon]

Vick is running around way too much, as in not just when the pocket collapses or all the wrs are covered. He simply is back to running too soon, too often and he will lose the ball doing so or get hurt again. I've yet to see him throw it away or the Eagles for that matter attempt to establish the run game up 16-3. So here we now are bc of it.

[Justice4all]

Please dear God let's HOLD this lead!

[Snoogans]

The D is the main reason we WON the Super Bowl. They held one of the most potent offenses to under 17 points!

But I will agree Eli did have a fantastic game in the NFC Championship. You are right about that one.

And I wasn't trying to do my usual Eli rants. I was only trying to back up the stat (which I agree with) that, for some reason with Coughlin, he always has a par or sub-par second half of a season.

thats why i didnt comment on the regular season shit. I hate coughlin as much as anyone, his play calling is terrible and the team wins in spite of him usually. Just pointing out that lets not act like the D carried the team to the SB. Eli was a beast in those playoffs, and even in the SB itself, it wasnt like he blew and the D saved him. the whole team played well and caught a couple big breaks.

[Snoogans]

Vick is running around way too much, as in not just when the pocket collapses or all the wrs are covered. He simply is back to running too soon, too often and he will lose the ball doing so or get hurt again. I've yet to see him throw it away or the Eagles for that matter attempt to establish the run game up 16-3. So here we now are bc of it.

it started to get even more after he rolled right on a play and Rolle drilled him. I think the line was giving him some happy feet a bit. But he is still playin way more QB than he ever did in Atlanta. He seems to at least still be tryin to find guys, but then gettin nervous

[spoon]

nice blitz and coverage there NY!

[Snoogans]

that was a terrible call. He never engaged, so the guy is allowed to hit him low. Giants got a break there

[epo]

For the record, Eli is the main reason you beat Green Bay in the NFC Championship Game. And Snoogans is right, the image of young Eli versus old Brett in the cold was the end of Favre in Green Bay.

[spoon]

He held the guy to be honest on the play right before that one too. He got away with it but then gave it right back.

That wasn't the smartest pass there. Double coverage and should have been picked.

[Snoogans]

i find it funny that with guys on the field injured, they take a break and immediately run a commercial about tellin a guy he is out for the season

[epo]

i find it funny that with guys on the field injured, they take a break and immediately run a commercial about tellin a guy he is out for the season

And a funny commercial about injuries too.

[Snoogans]

And a funny commercial about injuries too.

yea i do really like that one.

oh you are done for the season, did you see how hard that guy hit you?

[spoon]

Man is Hixon missed on special teams.

[spoon]

Wow what the hell is going on? Can anyone hold on to the ball right now?

[Snoogans]

Goddammit. Hold Onto The Fuckin Football You Bums

ground caused that fumble, luckily. that should be overturned. but who knows with the awesome job the refs have been doin lately

[epo]

Damn, thats close. Either way, horrible control by Bradshaw.

[Justice4all]

What The Fuck Is Going On??

[Snoogans]

Nicks too. Nicks holds the ball like a loaf of bread, always. They were lucky to get his back. Bradshaw, i am already pissed at. Even if they give the Giants the ball back, he shouldnt play the rest of the game, at least. Fuck him. When are we gonna teach this dope a fuckin lesson?

[Snoogans]

thank god

NOW FUCKIN BENCH HIM

[epo]

Nicks too. Nicks holds the ball like a loaf of bread, always. They were lucky to get his back. Bradshaw, i am already pissed at. Even if they give the Giants the ball back, he shouldnt play the rest of the game, at least. Fuck him. When are we gonna teach this dope a fuckin lesson?

Good. I wanna see more Brandon Jacobs.

[Snoogans]

Good. I wanna see more Brandon Jacobs.

Probably danny ware

it would be nice if we still had Gartrelle Johnson though

[Justice4all]

This is bad comedy!

[Snoogans]

can anyone on the team hold onto the ball? still a good punt by dodge, good job not to panic

[Snoogans]

i was gonna post what a great read vick made there, but collinsworth beat me to it. fucker

[epo]

Bad penalty.

[spoon]

huge flag

[Snoogans]

damn JPP that one hurt

[spoon]

kick it?

[Snoogans]

seriously?

[spoon]

Huge Flag

[epo]

Wow.

[Justice4all]

Aw SHIT

[spoon]

Eli's fault....er Nick Folk's fault.

[Snoogans]

Eli really fucked up on that play. That bum is gonna cost us another game

[Snoogans]

Eli's fault....er Nick Folk's fault.

bastard

[epo]

That TD was so set up by the threat of Vick.

[spoon]

not a bad receiving crew they have here in Philly

wow can't believe Vick and McCoy made that play work (insert cliche game of inches remark here)

[Snoogans]

seein how close Osi got to that in super slow mo was crazy

[spoon]

NOBODY can hold on to it!

[Snoogans]

what the fuck is with this game. this is fuckin NUTS

[epo]

Holy fuck. The Giants are so fucking lucky.

[Justice4all]

This game is INSANE

[spoon]

Fucking Seubert is a ball hawk!

[Snoogans]

some idiot said the giants always play boring games too. some idiot dolphins fan too

[Snoogans]

BENCH JACOBS

id rather put tom in the backfield

[epo]

Terrible drop by Jacobs.

[epo]

Hey Eli, thats why you slide!

[Justice4all]

BENCH JACOBS

id rather put tom in the backfield

Why not...we got the same damn girth.

Can ANYBODY hold on to the fucking ball tonight?????????????????

WHAT THE FUCK!!!

Snoogans THIS is why I have issues with Eli....you DON'T go head first. Any other QB with 6+ years of starting makes those kinds of mistakes.

[spoon]

Holy shit, Manning can't even slide gracefully. What a hilarious play! :lol:

[Snoogans]

that woulda been suck a great play. WHY DIDNT YOU JUST SLIDE.

great read to take off too. Fuckin jerkoffs tonight. Did they oil up the fuckin ball?

[Snoogans]

we seriously wasted a time out challenging this?

[PapaBear]

Well, this is going to be a waste of a timeout.

[epo]

That challenge is stupid by Coughlin. He needs those timeouts on D.

[spoon]

way to lose a time out Coughlin!

THAT was Eli's fault! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

[HBox]

Every person involved with this game from refs to coaches to players has been very sloppy.

[Justice4all]

Hey Eli, thats why you slide!

YES YES YES YES YES!

Congrats....Eli just cost us the game. unless they drop the ball too.

Once again...turnovers might cost us an important game. I HATE losing to this fucking team.

[Snoogans]

Why not...we got the same damn girth.

Can ANYBODY hold on to the fucking ball tonight?????????????????

WHAT THE FUCK!!!

Snoogans THIS is why I have issues with Eli....you DON'T go head first. Any other QB with 6+ years of starting makes those kinds of mistakes.

dude its 1 play by a QB who doesnt run alot. Its instinct to dive. Im pissed he fumbled, but im not gonna kill him for diving ahead. he was tryin to make a play, and he is hardly the only guy to fumble tonight. You cant kill him for the whole year on a couple bad plays. he has been very solid

[Snoogans]

YES YES YES YES YES!

Congrats....Eli just cost us the game. unless they drop the ball too.

Once again...turnovers might cost us an important game. I HATE losing to this fucking team.

again, did eli just cost us the game? He moved the ball all night, and bradshaw fumbled too. and the d gave up a 50 yarder on 4th and 1. And yet, you still put EVERYTHING on eli.

Do you see now why you are being ridiculous?

[epo]

YES YES YES YES YES!

Congrats....Eli just cost us the game. unless they drop the ball too.

Once again...turnovers might cost us an important game. I HATE losing to this fucking team.

While I agree that was a bad play, Eli did not "cost" the Giants this game.

Thats a ridiculous overstatement.

[spoon]

Coughlin looked like a fucking baby on that one while Eli was just pissed at himself. Move on Coughlin, don't pine about it and lose a time out. Now the hill just got steeper. Need a 3 and out here badly.

[Snoogans]

and lets not forget, tom, that coughlin just blew a time out challenging and has made some awful calls. its football, no one costs a team a game, and im not gonna kill the guy who played probably the best for us tonight and was tryin to make a play.

[Snoogans]

terrible tackling by eli

[spoon]

Who is a better runner, Vick or Eli? :lol:


fumble needed badly now!

[Justice4all]

and lets not forget, tom, that coughlin just blew a time out challenging and has made some awful calls. its football, no one costs a team a game, and im not gonna kill the guy who played probably the best for us tonight and was tryin to make a play.

I agree. Should have never waisted a Time out.

This is a classic case of stupidity.

[spoon]

are u sure you want to take that stand Tom? wasting a time out isn't good?! :blink:

[Snoogans]

also, i would like to reiterate how important that offsides penalty was. I cant believe Eli jumped offsides like that. It woulda been a punt and instead we end up down 7

[HBox]

On offense, Eli is the only reason the game is close. They certainly aren't running the ball and he's done an incredible job of getting out of sacks at the last second.

[spoon]

a missed fg here would surely fit this game and make for a wacky ending

[Snoogans]

On offense, Eli is the only reason the game is close. They certainly aren't running the ball and he's done an incredible job of getting out of sacks at the last second.

and this is a philly fan tom. this is as objective as it can be about the giants

[Justice4all]

I'm done tonight with this. This game makes me pissed at so many people, Eli, the receiving corps, the running backs. The coach.

We got lucky that we will lose but it isn't the blowout. Let's face it, if they didn't drop those balls in the end zone earlier this game would be 38 to 17 right now.

I SO hate losing to this team (again)

I hope the offensive line is healthy again when we face them in NJ in 4 weeks. Maybe the story will be different.
Maybe

[spoon]

On offense, Eli is the only reason the game is close. They certainly aren't running the ball and he's done an incredible job of getting out of sacks at the last second.

The only one who can effectively get to him is HIMSELF!

[Snoogans]

I'm done tonight with this. This game makes me pissed at so many people, Eli, the receiving corps, the running backs. The coach.

We got lucky that we will lose but it isn't the blowout. Let's face it, if they didn't drop those balls in the end zone earlier this game would be 38 to 17 right now.

I SO hate losing to this team (again)

I hope the offensive line is healthy again when we face them in NJ in 4 weeks. Maybe the story will be different.
Maybe

but not the defense? not Pierre Paul for jumping offsides?

[spoon]

38-17 huh? :wallbash:

[epo]

Isn't it nice that Coughlin can't kill the clock?

I blame Eli.

[spoon]

Nooooooooonan!

[spoon]

Isn't it nice that Coughlin can't kill the clock?

I blame Eli.

He did put the gun in Plex's sweats too by the way. Just to be "safe".

[Justice4all]

38-17 huh? :wallbash:

Pardon me...35 to 17

[TripleSkeet]

Hi guys! :bye:

Good game. :smoke:

[epo]

Wasn't Kolb great tonight?

[PapaBear]

Wasn't Kolb great tonight?
He met expectations.

[TripleSkeet]

Wasn't Kolb great tonight?

I root for a team, not a player. Hows that Favre love working out?

[Snacks]

No way snacks. I can see a pass or two in there, but you kick that fg no questions.

I know you're a Jets hater, but luck can only take you so far when you're on your own 30 with less than a minute and no timeouts.

Luck is a ball hitting a cross bar and going over. Luck is a tipped pass that's caught. EXECUTION is what Sanchez to Edwards was. End of story.

This is really a fucking retarded statement. They took the chip shot FG to make the jets score a TD rather than a FG.

On average, law of averages, the yardage to get a TD is MORE than the yardage needed to get a FG. Thus then, YOU GO FOR THE FG, especially when there's less than a minute left and no timeouts.

You just want the Jets to lose so much you're becoming blind to basic football strategy.

Im not saying Kubiak didnt go by the book and do the normal thing. He did but he shouldnt have. This morning Boomer said the exact same thing I said on the wfan. He said that your team hasnt played well this year and you have the worst defense in the league you have to go for a td there.

the defense is terrible, playing that loose is terrible, coaching is terrible and not trying to score in that situation helps you loose. I said it before and I will say it again. if you dont make it you do make it that a fg beats you but starting possession at your own 3 yard line with no time outs is a lot tougher to do then returning a kick off to the 30 or 35 like they did and then having the sideline available. if they are at their 3 yard like they will never throw the sidelines because int for td is greater. but when you have room and are not backed up you now have the sideline.

doesnt matter either way hou needs to fire kubiak. that team has been a team that has been good enough for 3 years and cant seem to get over the hump. it comes down to coaching and kubiak is one terrible head coach. has anyone noticed how many bad coaching decisions by all different coaches this year? i think there are more bad head coaches these days then good ones. sad times for coaching in the nfl.

[KnoxHarrington]

Brad Childress...FIRED

The Minnesota Vikings have relieved Brad Childress of his coaching duties and promoted defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier to interim coach for the rest of the season, the team said.

Frazier and Vikings owner Zygi Wilf are scheduled to hold a news conference at 4 p.m. ET at the team's facility.

The Vikings, tabbed as a preseason Super Bowl pick, struggled to a 3-7 record amid dysfunction. Wilf had said he would stick with Childress, but the last straw was apparently the team's humbling 31-3 loss to the archrival Green Bay Packers on Sunday.

The 31-3 loss was his most-lopsided home defeat in Childress' five years as Vikings coach, dropping his overall record to 40-37, including 1-2 in the playoffs.

Now let's see if they have the stones to bench Favre. I doubt it.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5838652

[weekapaugjz]

this is a tough game to get rowdy for.

[cougarjake13]

Brad Childress...FIRED



Now let's see if they have the stones to bench Favre. I doubt it.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5838652



frazier already said hes starting


just not sure why they gave childress the extension esp knowing favre wasnt staying much more than this year

[PapaBear]

Week after week... Why does Gruden have to be so damn repetitive. This week, it's River's elbow.

[cougarjake13]

Week after week... Why does Gruden have to be so damn repetitive. This week, it's River's elbow.



woulda said lack of time doing job but hes been there almost 2 yrs now

[epo]

I'm never surprised when a fan of a team expresses their desire for Cowher. I can't imagine how rich his pricetag will be.

[joeyballsack]

Why did Richard Seymour only get a 25k fine for sucker punching someone after the play, but a helmet to helmet hit in the course of play gets 75K ?

[epo]

Why did Richard Seymour only get a 25k fine for sucker punching someone after the play, but a helmet to helmet hit in the course of play gets 75K ?

Fighting has defined penalties, whereas helmet-to-helmet punishments are defined by Riger Goodell's mood.

[joeyballsack]

Wouldn't there have to be two participants in a fight though ?

Were there offsetting flags thrown on the play ?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

the NFL clearly is sayin that they are still pissed at Big Ben... If Seymour punched Brady or Manning... he would be suspended 1-2 games and fined 6 Figures....

[TjM]

Why did Richard Seymour only get a 25k fine for sucker punching someone after the play, but a helmet to helmet hit in the course of play gets 75K ?

Shoving. Not punching

[Snacks]

the NFL clearly is sayin that they are still pissed at Big Ben... If Seymour punched Brady or Manning... he would be suspended 1-2 games and fined 6 Figures....

I dont know, seems like big ben started it. he got in his face, tapped seymour and got dropped. ben is lucky he didnt get a fine as well.

[underdog]

I dont know, seems like big ben started it. he got in his face, tapped seymour and got dropped. ben is lucky he didnt get a fine as well.

It looked similar to when Blount punched that kid in the face in college. Ben ran up behind him yelling about something and Seymour didn't like it.

[Snacks]

It looked similar to when Blount punched that kid in the face in college. Ben ran up behind him yelling about something and Seymour didn't like it.

and i agreed with blount just like i agree with seymour. you talk shit, if you get dropped dont complain.

[sailor]

The appropriate response to words is fisticuffs?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Im not saying Kubiak didnt go by the book and do the normal thing. He did but he shouldnt have. This morning Boomer said the exact same thing I said on the wfan. He said that your team hasnt played well this year and you have the worst defense in the league you have to go for a td there.

IF YOU GO FOR THE TD THE JETS WERE STILL ONLY ONE SCORE DOWN.

Texans up 1 at time of possession. Score TD, kick extra point, up 8. Jets can still tie the game in one possession. The degree of difficulty is a little more because of the two point conversion, but STILL.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The appropriate response to words is fisticuffs?

Have you been reading the book of Gvac again?

[underdog]

The appropriate response to words is fisticuffs?

On a football field? Yeah.

[hanso]

The appropriate response to words is fisticuffs?

On a football field? Yeah.

Back when they wore leather helmets.

[KnoxHarrington]

Only about 3 hours to game time and no posts bitching about how much it sucks that Detroit gets one of the Thanksgiving games yet?

[sailor]

Only about 3 hours to game time and no posts bitching about how much it sucks that Detroit gets one of the Thanksgiving games yet?

does this count?

[hanso]

Some people call him Maurice (DET) watch him run/catch like a wildman in the first game.

[underdog]

Is anyone watching the pre-game on CBS? There was a touching piece on Chris Henry (I'm assuming, I didn't listen to it, I just saw his picture) and when they went back to the studio, James Brown was very upset and crying, so Boomer took over. As it went to break, you saw Dan Marino try to comfort JB and JB gave Marino a disgusted look and backed away from him. It was pretty funny.

[TripleSkeet]

Brady might have 5 TDs today.

[epo]

Brady might have 5 TDs today.

These aren't the 2008 Detroit Lions.

[KnoxHarrington]

These aren't the 2008 Detroit Lions.

Yeah, this team could contend for the NFC North title as soon as next year.

They certainly won't be in the divisional cellar next year...shit, the way things are going with the Minnesota Vikings Fail Boat, they probably won't be there this year.

[Snoogans]

Brady might have 5 TDs today.

how many would Kolb have?

[epo]

Yeah, this team could contend for the NFC North title as soon as next year.

They certainly won't be in the divisional cellar next year...shit, the way things are going with the Minnesota Vikings Fail Boat, they probably won't be there this year.

Their talent level is improving quickly. I don't think they'll be in the mix next year, but they should be around 8-8. This new coach really has them playing well.

[Snoogans]

Go Lions

[KnoxHarrington]

I propose that any spot as close as that 4th down spot just was in this game be called "4th & Favre".

[Snoogans]

I propose that any spot as close as that 4th down spot just was in this game be called "4th & Favre".

you cant do that. If I heard that, id assume favre just got picked on 3rd down

[epo]

Really solid half of football from Detroit.

I'm happy the NFL never considered removing them from Turkey Day.

[KnoxHarrington]

Seriously, NFL, why are you foisting this white trash moron Kid Rock on us?

Fucking awful

[epo]

Seriously, NFL, why are you foisting this white trash moron Kid Rock on us?

Fucking awful

The shame of Michigan.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

love the Lions on Turkey Day... sometimes they put up a fight... today happens to be one of those days..

[epo]

Devin McCourty is a helluva good cornerback.

[Snoogans]

Devin McCourty is a helluva good cornerback.

and everyone called me a homer when i was sayin the giants should trade down for him. Na, we needed ANOTHER DE instead, one who CANT FUCKIN STAY ONSIDES.


Jerkoffs

[epo]

and everyone called me a homer when i was sayin the giants should trade down for him. Na, we needed ANOTHER DE instead, one who CANT FUCKIN STAY ONSIDES.


Jerkoffs

If Bulaga wouldn't have been there for Green Bay, I wanted him.

[Snoogans]

they just ran the same play to CJ at the other corner and he looked lost on it.

[Snoogans]

Smith is a fuckin BUM

[disneyspy]

Smith is a fuckin BUM

ive watched this goof get burned everytime he plays,i cant imagine why he still has a job

[Snoogans]

can anyone explain to me why the lions DONT bring Logan on and throw him screens and shit. He is fast as fuck and shifty as shit and they just use him on kickoffs and kick cover and thats it?

[Snoogans]

what the fuck is the all iron MVP and why have Jay Fiedler and Ron Dayne been past recipients

[disneyspy]

what the fuck is the all iron MVP and why have Jay Fiedler and Ron Dayne been past recipients

i think its cuz simms went both ways in his playin days

[epo]

I hope the Lions put Alphonso Smith on Greg Jennings.

[Snoogans]

i think its cuz simms went both ways in his playin days

dont you DARE bad mouth Simms playin days


btw, Alfonso Smith is fuckin TERRIBLE. How the FUCK did he get in the NFL?

[IamFogHat]

A lot of fucking penalties today.

[epo]

I wonder what trophy Dave Brown is giving out today?

[disneyspy]

fuck it may as well try an on side kick from here

[Snoogans]

I wonder what trophy Dave Brown is giving out today?

see when you are just totally goin for the goof its funny. not even justice thinks dave brown was anything like Phil Simms

[Dell]

damn, I was really hoping for a Lions upset...

so many of the Elimination Pool undefeated picked the Patriots...

oh well, I need the Jets to remain undefeated...

[KnoxHarrington]

These three 'mos singing the national anthem at the Cowboys game make the Jonas Brothers look butch.

[epo]

It must be low times in Dallas when your best chance is with a dirty ginger as your coach.

[Dell]

It must be low times in Dallas when your best chance is with a dirty ginger as your coach.

ha...what make's him "dirty"?

[epo]

ha...what make's him "dirty"?

Just look at that Ginger. Damned lowlife...

[hanso]

ive watched this goof get burned everytime he plays,i cant imagine why he still has a job

I cant imagine why you put the likes of him in your fantasy line ups. (DET QB's).

[disneyspy]

I cant imagine why you put the likes of him in your fantasy line ups. (DET QB's).

dude i started with favre,dropped him after 2 games and played romo,he got hurt,stafford out,used hill until i got two second tier QBs,dropped him,if you want a player to get hurt,put him on my fantasy team,i am the hippo of fantasy owners

[hanso]

dude i started with favre,dropped him after 2 games and played romo,he got hurt,stafford out,used hill until i got two second tier QBs,dropped him,if you want a player to get hurt,put him on my fantasy team,i am the hippo of fantasy owners

Wow, tuff luck there. You need you good one for the playoffs.

[disneyspy]

oof,this ones gonna get ugly

[Kevin]

Eli has been fucking terrible today. He had a bad snap, couldn't stop Ivory twice, and could not get the 1st on 4th and 1. And in the last game he was terrible against Deon Branch.

[hanso]

Nice first play back for Bush.





Dreadlocks topped off with muslem headwear is some kind of fashion statement in the NFL.

[KnoxHarrington]

This dude playing at the Cowboys game may be one of the most boring acts I've ever seen. I don't get this kind of music: it's too country to work as rock, too rock to work as country, so it ends up being the retard kid of them both. Unlike a real retard, however, it's just boring and isn't good for any laughs at all.

[underdog]

These aren't the 2008 Detroit Lions.

4 TDs was pretty close.

[sailor]

Nice pussy move punting from the 35.

[epo]

4 TDs was pretty close.

Ha! I was actually thinking about that when The Hippo jinx hit the Lions in the second half.

[epo]

For some reason I find the Cowboys leading to be funny.

[underdog]

The Cowboys' offensive play calling makes zero sense to me. They have Roy Williams, Dez Bryant, Jason Witten, and Miles Austin. So what do they do every time inside the 10? Take them all out and run it up the middle. It doesn't even begin to make sense to me.

[sailor]

oof,this ones gonna get ugly

Good one, old hippo.

[epo]

Nice fumble Roy.

[epo]

Did New Orleans "score too fast"?

[underdog]

Did New Orleans "score too fast"?

That depends. Is Kitna still the QB of Dallas?

[KnoxHarrington]

This has been a very long game already, and I think it's about to go into OT.

[sailor]

That depends. Is Kitna still the QB of Dallas?

Apparently.

[Dell]

one more game to go...

need Jets to stay perfect in the Elimination League...

[KnoxHarrington]

Carson Palmer looked like he was going to join that upper echelon of NFL quarterbacks with Payton Manning and Tom Brady and Drew Brees, but he seems to have fallen off the map. I don't think he's ever fully recovered from getting his knee caved in in that playoff game a couple of years ago.

[keithy_19]

I don't think he's ever fully recovered from getting his knee caved in in that playoff game a couple of years ago.

I can agree with that.

[KnoxHarrington]

Every time Matt Millen makes a point now, I think to myself "You are the man who put together the only 0-16 team in NFL history."

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is anyone watching the pre-game on CBS? There was a touching piece on Chris Henry (I'm assuming, I didn't listen to it, I just saw his picture) and when they went back to the studio, James Brown was very upset and crying, so Boomer took over. As it went to break, you saw Dan Marino try to comfort JB and JB gave Marino a disgusted look and backed away from him. It was pretty funny.

I saw it. Boomer was having a tough time holding it together because this is in his very near future, within 10 years, I'm guessing.

[hanso]

They said the video is at CBS.com

[KnoxHarrington]

Well, I'll be damned...the "icing the kicker" thing actually worked.

[Snoogans]

this game is fuckin brutal

[KnoxHarrington]

The last 40 yards -- at least -- of that kickoff return TD were with one fucking shoe!

Jesus Christ the Bengals fucking suck

[TripleSkeet]

4 TDs was pretty close.

Thanks for the acknowledgement. Went 3 for 3 today.

[JimBeam]

Maybe it's just a coincidence that've I've actually seen a lot of missed FGs and PATs this season but does it seem to anybody else like there's been more than usual ?

[weekapaugjz]

Every time Matt Millen makes a point now, I think to myself "You are the man who put together the only 0-16 team in NFL history."

seriously. i just laugh every time he opens his mouth.

[JimBeam]

What's so completely ridiculous is that anybody pays the guy to give his opinion.

He should be writing a blog hosted by Compuserv or something like that.

[cougarjake13]

see when you are just totally goin for the goof its funny. not even justice thinks dave brown was anything like Phil Simms

hell dave brown wasnt even a kent graham

[cougarjake13]

Maybe it's just a coincidence that've I've actually seen a lot of missed FGs and PATs this season but does it seem to anybody else like there's been more than usual ?

its started last year and seems to have continued this year


and i cant think of a good reason why .. other than the newer guys are no where as good as the kickers who have retired .. maybe its just no one wants to be a kicker so guys who in years past would have never made an nfl roster are now starting

[JimBeam]

That could be it but I'm not talking about guys not hitting 50 yarders.

I'm talking about guys missing 26 yarders.

You'd think even a HS kicker could make those.

[cougarjake13]

That could be it but I'm not talking about guys not hitting 50 yarders.

I'm talking about guys missing 26 yarders.

You'd think even a HS kicker could make those.



yeh i know what you meant ... its been going on or at least ive noticed it more the last two years


and its not even blocks .. its chip shots and easily made 30 to 40 yarders

[sailor]

there were about 20 missed xp's last year and i think 6 so far this year. 2007 and 8 had like 13 and 6. sounds like this year is right about average.

[KnoxHarrington]

Something I've wondered...when does this guy on the Red Zone channel take a piss? He's pretty much on the air from 1PM EST to close to 8PM. And he never seems to have a break long enough to really do anything.

Then again, he's hardly ever on cam, so he could be taking a leak live on the air for all I know.

[spoon]

So weird to see Cleveland a favorite, much less a 10.5 pt one.

[spoon]

Atlanta looking to make a statement? Not many are taking them very serious just yet despite their record. I'm sure a win vs. GB will give them some more clout and Ryan does play REALLY well at home versus on the road. Yet this year he's been pretty solid regardless.

[Justice4all]

holy crap did the Giants leave huge holes for those runs.
Not good.

[spoon]

holy crap did the Giants leave huge holes for those runs.
Not good.

what? leave huge holes?

[Justice4all]

what? leave huge holes?

Yea. Jacksonville just ran right up the field with, what looked like, no effort to come back and score a TD in no time.

[epo]

Atlanta looking to make a statement? Not many are taking them very serious just yet despite their record. I'm sure a win vs. GB will give them some more clout and Ryan does play REALLY well at home versus on the road. Yet this year he's been pretty solid regardless.

So far the Atl/GB game is interesting. Two very good teams testing each other out to find the weak spots.

[spoon]

yes tom, i got it

[spoon]

So far the Atl/GB game is interesting. Two very good teams testing each other out to find the weak spots.

It's gb, I'd go with qb since no one could ever recover from losing Favre. I feel so sorry for the fans in GB. :wink:

[spoon]

So far the Atl/GB game is interesting. Two very good teams testing each other out to find the weak spots.

I don't know what you're talking about, I'm busy watching Foxtrot with the B Listers.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't know what you're talking about, I'm busy watching Foxtrot with the B Listers.

You weren't, by any chance, getting bagels this morning, were you?

[epo]

10-10 in Atlanta. I think these teams are finally figuring each other out.

[sailor]

can't believe pitt's letting the bills hang around.

[spoon]

that jackson td catch was comical

I believe the rutherford junior high team could have defended that play better

[epo]

Most of the season Green Bay has been able to make up for the loss of Ryan Grant. Today is the first time they are going to lose because they don't have him.

[epo]

Huge TD by Green Bay. A tie game with :56 seconds left in Atlanta.

[keithy_19]

Way to be Boss.

[sailor]

great run by ben. buff really can't catch breaks.

suisham's been a great pick-up by pitt so far.

[HBox]

Awesome fight between Andre Johnson and Finnegan.

[Justice4all]

Wow did you see the fight between Finnegan and Johnson in the Tenn/Houston game?

[keithy_19]

How about that fight with The Texans and the Titans?

[sailor]

Wow did you see the fight between Finnegan and Johnson in the Tenn/Houston game?

hbox did

[Justice4all]

hbox did

Ha! Same post, same time.