2011-12 NFL Season

[Dan 'Hampton]

Question: Are you allowed to stand like Fireman Ed on the stands like he was? When they showed him standing in the endzone bleachers. Supposed his druken ass fell or something.

One can only hope.

[Snacks]

2 games behind the Jets, 1-5 at home, will probably need to blow Gooddell to make the playoffs. Get sucking, boy.

No Miami doesnt play teams at the end of the year that quit like the Jets did last year. I as a real sports fan wouldnt want to get in by teams sitting their starters!

Once again Miami nor their fans are saying they are going anywhere this year. The Jets are and they cant even beat Miami at home. Miami 6-1 at on theroad not too bad! Once they learn how to win they will be trouble. But your team was hyped all year by you guys, your coach and the retarded media!

Stat of the week mentioned during the Jets game. The Jets were going for their 10th double digit winning season in their history. How terrible is that. In 50 seasons your team has only won10 or more games 9 times. They might not do it this year. Pitt they should lose, Chicago they might lose, Buffalo that could be the game to get them 10. Wow what a team what an org!

[Snacks]

Can we jusy agree that the Dolphins and Jets both suck. They were lucky to make the playoff last year with Indy laying down the last game of the season instead of going for the record.

I agree Miami is a .500 team. With better coaching they will be a better team next year.
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Dont forget Cincy laid down too and rested their starters to give the jets a gift last year too!

[Snacks]

What the FUCK are you talking about? Before todays game Henne had 15 INTs to Sanchez's 11. Sanchez also had more TDs.

how many does Sanchez have for his career. Youre an idiot because I said for their careers.

[TripleSkeet]

I couldnt get on today, so here are my thoughts on the games today...

- Detroit could seriously have just ended Green Bays playoff chances. I never wouldve thought it.

- Every week Washington loses gives me a bigger and bigger smile. This weeks was just classic.

- I thought the trip by that Jets coach was hilarious. If you aint cheating, you aint trying.

- If this whole Minnesota fiasco puts the Giants at a disadvantage next week.....good.

- New England is for real. You can stop saying they are not a good team. They slaughtered 2 teams in the last week with a combined 17-6 record at the time.

- Ive been telling people all day this Eagles game is going to resemble that MNF game against Washington. Look for a blowout. I had 2nd thoughts yesterday and thought it may be a little close, but I think they might win by 30 tonight.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Once again Miami nor their fans are saying they are going anywhere this year.



Would you like me to pull some of your posts from earlier in this thread that say otherwise?


The Jets are and they cant even beat Miami at home. Miami 6-1 at on theroad not too bad!

And Miami can't beat the Jets at home and the Jets are 5-1 on the road.

Once they learn how to win they will be trouble. But your team was hyped all year by you guys, your coach and the retarded media!

Hysterical. You're still mathematically alive for the playoffs and written them off for dead, and you sound like a Jets fan after the Atlanta game last year. NEXT YEAR!!

[Snacks]

Career #s not counting this week

TDs Ints Yards Rating Comp %
Sanchez 28 31 5080 70.5 54.4% in 27 starts
Henne 24 29 5566 76.2 61.3% in 23 starts

Like I said they both suck!

[Sinestro]

I'm afraid Sanchez and LT(of the Jets) are not used to playing in cold weather of the Meadowlands.

Whose the back-up QB of the jets? Why didn't Rex put him in to change the tempo or something.

[Tenbatsuzen]

neither they both suck Henne actually has a higher completion %, less ints and a better QB rating so dont go crazy because Sanchez did well 1 or 2 games. I think over all miami has a better team. The jets have just gotten lucky and the dolphins have gotten unlucky this year. I at least see miami for what they are, a .500 or little better team that needs to learn how to play 60 minutes. Jets and their fans have been delusional all year!

how many does Sanchez have for his career. Youre an idiot because I said for their careers.

It's funny, because the word "career" isn't in the first post at all and the tone of the entire post is discussing the current season.

[Snacks]

Would you like me to pull some of your posts from earlier in this thread that say otherwise?



And Miami can't beat the Jets at home and the Jets are 5-1 on the road.



Hysterical. You're still mathematically alive for the playoffs and written them off for dead, and you sound like a Jets fan after the Atlanta game last year. NEXT YEAR!!

6-1 is better then 5-1. come on you can count

Miami is out, Im realistic. Didnt Rex the coach say that last year and hes fucking paid to coach and get them to the playoffs.

Im not talking about me saying they were going to the playoffs of course I did earlier in the year. Im talking about the majority of the jets fans on the radio, on the net, everywhere you look. They do stories about how much swagger the jets think they have and how great it was that the Pats shut them up and that the jets cant back up all their talk because their not that good.

At the end of the day your shitty team will make the playoffs again. Thats nice for you. But we all know the team they are and how shitty the organization has been forever!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm afraid Sanchez and LT(of the Jets) are not used to playing in cold weather of the Meadowlands.

Whose the back-up QB of the jets? Why didn't Rex put him in to change the tempo or something.

Rex said he considered putting Marc Brunell in but the issues were not entirely Sanchez/s fault (several dropped passes, including a sure TD) so he figured Sanchez was his best option to win the game.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'm afraid Sanchez and LT(of the Jets) are not used to playing in cold weather of the Meadowlands.

Whose the back-up QB of the jets? Why didn't Rex put him in to change the tempo or something.



Tomlinson was always the bitch on the sidelines wearing a big jacket against the pats in the playoffs

[Snacks]

It's funny, because the word "career" isn't in the first post at all and the tone of the entire post is discussing the current season.

Well I clarified it for you now you know Im talking about career. And even if we are talking about this season, the only thing hes done better the Henne is he has a couple more
TDs. He has less yards, lower comp% by a lot and a lower QB rating. This year and for career. So it doesnt matter they both suck!

[Snacks]

I couldnt get on today, so here are my thoughts on the games today...

- Detroit could seriously have just ended Green Bays playoff chances. I never wouldve thought it.

- Every week Washington loses gives me a bigger and bigger smile. This weeks was just classic.

- I thought the trip by that Jets coach was hilarious. If you aint cheating, you aint trying.

- If this whole Minnesota fiasco puts the Giants at a disadvantage next week.....good.

- New England is for real. You can stop saying they are not a good team. They slaughtered 2 teams in the last week with a combined 17-6 record at the time.

- Ive been telling people all day this Eagles game is going to resemble that MNF game against Washington. Look for a blowout. I had 2nd thoughts yesterday and thought it may be a little close, but I think they might win by 30 tonight.

classless. How could you find that funny. You talk about playing sports. Its one thing to play all out and put a hurt of someone playing tough its another to do something so pussy.

When you got into fights did you fight face to face like a man or did you like to sneak someone from behind? 2 ways to beat someone. The mans way and the pussy way.

Decisions decisions?

[Snacks]

I thought Vick should get the MVP all season but Tom Brady is playing out of his mind. I think hes playing better this year then he did during his only other MVP season.

Right now he should win the MVP but Vick could get back in the race very easily tonight!

[Sinestro]

One thing that irk me is the Jets WR who dropped the sure TD pass and they zoom to him a couple of minutes on the sidelines and he's laughing it up.

The Jets hold the Dolphins to 10 points after the 1st quarter and the offense can't buy a bucket. I know the recievers dropped a couple of passes but c'mon.

[Sinestro]

classless. How could you find that funny. You talk about playing sports. Its one thing to play all out and put a hurt of someone playing tough its another to do something so pussy.

When you got into fights did you fight face to face like a man or did you like to sneak someone from behind? 2 ways to beat someone. The mans way and the pussy way.

Decisions decisions?

So you don't believe in covert operations of our military?

We woulda never won the American Revolution if we fought straight up.

We're we pussys for dropping the A-bomb on the Japanese civilians to end the war with the Japanese?

[HBox]

Trent Cole almost gets his head ripped off, no flag. Vick gets destroyed on the sideline, no flag. Same as all season. I have never seen the Eagles get constantly dicked over by the refs over an entire season, but that is exactly what is happening this year.

[Crispy123]

That was a clean hit on Vick.

[HBox]

That was a clean hit on Vick.

Technically. But name one QB in the league that doesn't get that call other than Vick.

[Snoogans]

Technically. But name one QB in the league that doesn't get that call other than Vick.

not just QB, he was clearly giving himself up, goin OB. There was no chance to fake it. Even most WRs woulda got that call. It was a bad job by the officials

[underdog]

Can we jusy agree that the Dolphins and Jets both suck. They were lucky to make the playoff last year with Indy laying down the last game of the season instead of going for the record.

You're absolutely right.

I agree Miami is a .500 team. With better coaching they will be a better team next year.

Maybe the coaching would be better if Tony took off his sunglasses.

- New England is for real. You can stop saying they are not a good team. They slaughtered 2 teams in the last week with a combined 17-6 record at the time.

Who has been saying they weren't a good team? They also blew Pittsburgh out 4 weeks ago.

Tomlinson was always the bitch on the sidelines wearing a big jacket against the pats in the playoffs

To be fair, he did have sand in his vagina and that could cripple any WNBA player and make them sit out a playoff game.

[disneyspy]

this vick shit is fucking nonsense,what a bullshit call,BULLSHIT!!

[HBox]

At first I thought that was a makeup call but there was helmet to helmet contact.

[KnoxHarrington]

So Michael Vick gets jacked up after he's out of bounds, and that's A-OK, but a clean-looking hit gets a roughing the passer call?

I don't get it. Maybe it was a make up call.

[HBox]

So Michael Vick gets jacked up after he's out of bounds, and that's A-OK, but a clean-looking hit gets a roughing the passer call?

I don't get it. Maybe it was a make up call.

That last replay before the commercial showed helmet to helmet contact.

[underdog]

That last replay before the commercial showed helmet to helmet contact.

Helmet to helmet to helmet.

[KnoxHarrington]

That last replay before the commercial showed helmet to helmet contact.

Yeah, I see that now. They're going to call that all the time.

[Sinestro]

They're just tearing into the Jets on the radio.

[Snoogans]

tenbatz, im not a fan of the dolphins or the jets, but you need to stop. you even coming in here and talkin shit to anyone, nevermind a fan of the team that your team just embarrassed itself against, is fuckin sad. You are exactly why people hate the jets and their stupid fans. how bout you come in here, comment the jets suck, and be done with it. you come in here off the 2 performances your team just put up and think you can actually talk shit and give people attitude? And you wonder why everyone wants to shit on the jets? Cause of fans like you, and cause the jets have the same attitude.

And dont act like the jets didnt talk this week. I heard them all week on 1050 talkin how they were gonna bounce back and take care of business against the dolphins and the pats were just one game. The team, the fans, the organization need to shut the fuck up for a couple weeks. Stop giving people attitude, this is why people wanna punch you in the face.

[Sinestro]

I'm just waiting for the spin that the Dolphins won (or negated homefield advantage) because the Giants let them use their practice facility. I know Carton will talk about that tomorrow. He was talking about it last week.

[Snoogans]

I'm just waiting for the spin that the Dolphins won (or negated homefield advantage) because the Giants let them use their practice facility. I know Carton will talk about that tomorrow. He was talking about it last week.

the dolphins won cause they arent quite as inept as the jets


and since we are here, that whole argument about which organization is a better one, the jets or dolphins? The dolphins win in a fuckin landslide, cause they wouldnt fuckin trip opposing players on the sideline.

That trip is seriously the biggest dickbag move ive ever seen during a game, and regardless of whether the fans kill the guy for it or not, just the fact that the jets would employ people who would do that says all you need to know about the type of organization the jets are and the people who are part of it

[TripleSkeet]

Who has been saying they weren't a good team? They also blew Pittsburgh out 4 weeks ago.


Sorry, when you said they were a weak team thats what I thought you meant.

classless. How could you find that funny. You talk about playing sports. Its one thing to play all out and put a hurt of someone playing tough its another to do something so pussy.

When you got into fights did you fight face to face like a man or did you like to sneak someone from behind? 2 ways to beat someone. The mans way and the pussy way.

Decisions decisions?

I thought it was hilarious. Not the injury, just the trip. Of course I dont wanna see a guy get hurt, but how could yopu not find it funny that a coach tries to trip someone running out of bounds?


By the way, after seeing the officiating in this game and against the Eagles this season Im starting to wonder how many NFL referees are dog owners.

[Sinestro]

They have a video the one of the college games where someone from the bench tackled the runner on a way to a TD. The referees rewarded a touchdown to that team. I think it was Rice vs. Alabama. It was black and white footage. 1954 Cotton Bowl.

[Sinestro]

I thought it was hilarious. Not the injury, just the trip. Of course I dont wanna see a guy get hurt, but how could yopu not find it funny that a coach tries to trip someone running out of bounds?

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Nice way for the coach to set an example. The Jets should fire that coaches ass. If shoe was on the other foot you would bet that Rex would be all over it.

[Snoogans]

Sorry, when you said they were a weak team thats what I thought you meant.



I thought it was hilarious. Not the injury, just the trip. Of course I dont wanna see a guy get hurt, but how could yopu not find it funny that a coach tries to trip someone running out of bounds?


By the way, after seeing the officiating in this game and against the Eagles this season Im starting to wonder how many NFL referees are dog owners.

because its a fuckin scumbag move than can injur guys. You dont wanna see a guy get injured, dont think its funny that something happened that can ONLY do bad or injure guys. Nothing good comes from it, and you can laugh all you want, but your team is now the scum of the NFL. A league of rapists and murderers and you guys are the scum of it. Congrats, thats hilarious actually

[OGC]

That trip is seriously the biggest dickbag move ive ever seen during a game, and regardless of whether the fans kill the guy for it or not, just the fact that the jets would employ people who would do that says all you need to know about the type of organization the jets are and the people who are part of it

How can you blame the Jets organization for the scummy actions of one coach/employee. It's not like they give psychological evaluations to find out if employees will be dirtbags.

I don't care for the Jets or their organization but don't blame them for the trip.

[Snoogans]

How can you blame the Jets organization for the scummy actions of one coach/employee. It's not like they give psychological evaluations to find out if employees will be dirtbags.

I don't care for the Jets or their organization but don't blame them for the trip.

no, cause the culture of the team is being dirtbags. The way everyone acts probably got him to a point where he thought fuck it, this will go over. Its the overall attitude. Decent organizations would never have someone do that cause the person would know before hand its stupid and career suicidal. It clearly reflects on the org

[HBox]

That was the best one of those I've ever seen. I can't argue with penalty even though it didn't happen after the play. And hell, if you are gonna outrun the entire defense with a twisted ankle go wild.

[Furtherman]

The Nestea Plunge is back!

[PapaBear]

The Nestea Plunge is back!
Though Jackson is probably too young to know what the hell that is.

[Justice4all]

The Nestea Plunge is back!

Maybe it was his way of honoring Don Meredeth?

And shouldn't that have been a flag for unsportsmanlike like conduct and not unnecessary roughness?

[underdog]

Sorry, when you said they were a weak team thats what I thought you meant.

It's a pretty bad Patriots team, and they're just destroying the rest of the NFL. Their defense is not very good (although, seeming to get better every week, but that's because they only have to defense against the pass) and their offense have no deep threat at all. The rest of the league is just really bad.

[TripleSkeet]

because its a fuckin scumbag move than can injur guys. You dont wanna see a guy get injured, dont think its funny that something happened that can ONLY do bad or injure guys. Nothing good comes from it, and you can laugh all you want, but your team is now the scum of the NFL. A league of rapists and murderers and you guys are the scum of it. Congrats, thats hilarious actually

Did you forget my team was the Eagles? Or are you saying my team is the scumbags of the NFL because of Vicks past? Not sure I get this.

And yes, if the coach had tripped someone from the Eagles I wouldve laughed too. I just thought it was funny. Im sure hes gonna be in a shitload of trouble.

[Snacks]

Did you forget my team was the Eagles? Or are you saying my team is the scumbags of the NFL because of Vicks past? Not sure I get this.

And yes, if the coach had tripped someone from the Eagles I wouldve laughed too. I just thought it was funny. Im sure hes gonna be in a shitload of trouble.

what I think snoogans was saying was that the Jets are the scumbag team of the league. Not your team personally but the team and coach that is being talked about.

[KnoxHarrington]

what I think snoogans was saying was that the Jets are the scumbag team of the league. Not your team personally but the team and coach that is being talked about.

Hey, don't be so hard on the guy...he apologized! That makes it all OK!

Jets assistant Sal Alosi admitted to tripping Dolphins cornerback/kick returner Nolan Carroll and apologized for his "inexcusable and unsportsmanlike" conduct in Sunday's loss.

"I made a mistake that showed a total lapse in judgment. My conduct was inexcusable and unsportsmanlike and does not reflect what this organization stands for," Alosi said in a statement. "I accept responsibility for my actions as well as any punishment that follows."

There's no way from the video that he could try to claim it was accidental -- he pretty clearly moves his leg to get in Carroll's way. So I guess this is his move of throwing himself on the mercy of the court.

But he's gotta be fired. This is inexcusable. I don't know if it's appropriate to fine Ryan as well, but I think he created that atmosphere of disrespect and bad sportsmanship that leads to this sort of foolishness.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/12/jets-coach-sal-alosi-trips-dolphins-nolan-carroll/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002

[Snacks]

Hey, don't be so hard on the guy...he apologized! That makes it all OK!



There's no way from the video that he could try to claim it was accidental -- he pretty clearly moves his leg to get in Carroll's way. So I guess this is his move of throwing himself on the mercy of the court.

But he's gotta be fired. This is inexcusable. I don't know if it's appropriate to fine Ryan as well, but I think he created that atmosphere of disrespect and bad sportsmanship that leads to this sort of foolishness.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/12/jets-coach-sal-alosi-trips-dolphins-nolan-carroll/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002


Im not the type of person who wants peoples lives ruined over a mistake or a lapse in judgment. But in this case I hope he is fired. He is a coach and should be teaching the proper ways to handle losing. Instead he became a little bitch. Doing that is so stupid and shows the piece of shit he is and it all starts at the top.

All people make mistakes but this is the NFL and they fine and suspend players for everything. Now its time to make an example of a coach because not losing his job does nothing.

[TripleSkeet]

Hey, don't be so hard on the guy...he apologized! That makes it all OK!



There's no way from the video that he could try to claim it was accidental -- he pretty clearly moves his leg to get in Carroll's way. So I guess this is his move of throwing himself on the mercy of the court.

But he's gotta be fired. This is inexcusable. I don't know if it's appropriate to fine Ryan as well, but I think he created that atmosphere of disrespect and bad sportsmanship that leads to this sort of foolishness.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/12/jets-coach-sal-alosi-trips-dolphins-nolan-carroll/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002

Id say hes gotta be fires for this, but at least able to reapply and get another coaching job next year.


And no, you dont hold Rex Ryan responsible for something like this. Come on now, thats just ridiculous.

[disneyspy]

Id say hes gotta be fires for this, but at least able to reapply and get another coaching job next year.


And no, you dont hold Rex Ryan responsible for something like this. Come on now, thats just ridiculous.

hey new aggie,hurry up with those sigs

[foodcourtdruide]

Id say hes gotta be fires for this, but at least able to reapply and get another coaching job next year.


And no, you dont hold Rex Ryan responsible for something like this. Come on now, thats just ridiculous.

I wouldn't hold Ryan responsible, but I think it's indicative of a certain behavior this team has shown under his leadership. They just seem so unprofessional, and that starts with Ryan.

[Snacks]

I wouldn't hold Ryan responsible, but I think it's indicative of a certain behavior this team has shown under his leadership. They just seem so unprofessional, and that starts with Ryan.

And that is why you do hold him responsible. He is the team, the staff does things based on how he runs the team. If their was a little discipline maybe coaches wouldnt think thats ok to do in the first place. Think about it, in 45 years of the modern NFL has there ever been a coach who tripped a played from the sidelines? This is something you see in wings/beer commercials not in real life!

[Snoogans]

Did you forget my team was the Eagles? Or are you saying my team is the scumbags of the NFL because of Vicks past? Not sure I get this.

And yes, if the coach had tripped someone from the Eagles I wouldve laughed too. I just thought it was funny. Im sure hes gonna be in a shitload of trouble.

actually for some reason i read your post fast and thought you were tenbatz. So I posted this thinkin it was to a jets fan. My bad, id expect no less from you actually

[foodcourtdruide]

And that is why you do hold him responsible. He is the team, the staff does things based on how he runs the team. If their was a little discipline maybe coaches wouldnt think thats ok to do in the first place. Think about it, in 45 years of the modern NFL has there ever been a coach who tripped a played from the sidelines? This is something you see in wings/beer commercials not in real life!

I guess it was a bit of double-speak on my part.

[TripleSkeet]

actually for some reason i read your post fast and thought you were tenbatz. So I posted this thinkin it was to a jets fan. My bad, id expect no less from you actually

Thank you. I hate to dissapoint.

[TripleSkeet]

hey new aggie,hurry up with those sigs

LMAO I got so hammered last night I forgot all about it. Ill have them by tonight.

[Sinestro]

The streak is over. 297.

[TripleSkeet]

The streak is over. 297.

Pussy.

[razorboy]

Well, at least Eli is doing his best Brett impression.

[KnoxHarrington]

Tonight, the Texans start their usual late-season rally to get to 8-8 and just miss the playoffs.

[Snoogans]

Thank you. I hate to dissapoint.

to be honest, i have the eagles way ahead of the jets right now. The Philly teams are only classless and awful cause the fans are classless and awful. I dont think the Eagles would ever even think to trip someone on the other team. They are real scumbags, they wanna beat em fair so they could be scumbags about it. To a point, I repect the consistency in that.

The jets as a whole have just been a bunch of dirtbags for years now. It all started with the face of the franchise hittin on suzie culber on live tv. Then the QB textin cock pics. Hey, lets got get a few criminals, including one who was a SB hero and still was let go for NOTHING by his team. Then, lets not do anything when one of them gets a DWI when there is a service to drive him free when he is drunk

and then lets sexually harrass a sideline reporter cause she is hot and so well thats her fault isnt it. Now we are trippin guys on the other team cause we cant beat other teams anymore without tryin shit like that.

Ive hated the jets and thought they and a large part of their fan base were scumbags and for a long time, everyone asked how could you hate the jets, i dont get it. They ALL fuckin get it now.

[TripleSkeet]

Here ya go Spy...get crackin..


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[Snoogans]

id still fuck pam oliver. She is lookin pretty damn good for her age

[Snacks]

id still fuck pam oliver. She is lookin pretty damn good for her age

please tell me your joking? she looks like an uglier oprah!

[Snoogans]

she is no where near oprah's size, and sorry we dont all wanna fuck light poles like you do

[Sinestro]

id still fuck pam oliver. She is lookin pretty damn good for her age

x2

[KnoxHarrington]

id still fuck pam oliver. She is lookin pretty damn good for her age

x3

[Sinestro]

So where will Brett play next year. It's not over. He'll be back mid-season.

[Sinestro]

Do you think Brett would have tried to play if he wasn't going against the NY Giants defense?

[PapaBear]

So where will Brett play next year. It's not over. He'll be back mid-season.
I think the NFL will quietly tell him to stay the fuck home, after all the sexting shit. And now that his streak is over, there's not much reason for him to come back.

[Snacks]

she is no where near oprah's size, and sorry we dont all wanna fuck light poles like you do

Im not even talking about weight im talking about how fucking disgusting her face has gotten over the years. A couple of weeks ago she was trending on twitter. All the posts were about how fucking ugly Pam is and how her weave was falling out!

[epo]

Do you think Brett would have tried to play if he wasn't going against the NY Giants defense?

No. That attention whore doesn't give a shit about the Giants defense.

[epo]

And that is why you do hold him responsible. He is the team, the staff does things based on how he runs the team. If their was a little discipline maybe coaches wouldnt think thats ok to do in the first place. Think about it, in 45 years of the modern NFL has there ever been a coach who tripped a played from the sidelines? This is something you see in wings/beer commercials not in real life!

Yes. This about culture and Rex Ryan has taken the easy path and created a dogshit culture that allows people to do shit like this.

[PapaBear]

I wonder how much that coach makes. This is probably going to hurt him in a MAJOR way. I'd say it will set a good example to other coaches, but I don't think there are many other coaches retarded enough to try it anyway.

[Snacks]

I wonder how much that coach makes. This is probably going to hurt him in a MAJOR way. I'd say it will set a good example to other coaches, but I don't think there are many other coaches retarded enough to try it anyway.

I would bet he makes good money maybe 200k a year. His job is an all year job and he probably has to work with all players to make individual workouts and train them as well.

[Judge Smails]

Favre tries to profit from end of streak (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/13/favre-tries-to-profit-from-end-of-streak/)



Apparently, a salary of $16 million for 2010 isn’t enough.

Not long after Vikings quarterback Brett Favre (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1744) was placed on the inactive list for Monday night’s game against the Giants, Favre’s official web site began selling a signed football commemorating his 297-game streak of starts.

For the low, low price of $499.99 (http://www.officialbrettfavre.com/fan_store/product_e7a41674c1fe/).

“One of the most historic streaks ever in all of sports has come to an end,” the message reads on Favre’s site. “The NFL’s own Ironman Brett Favre has ended his consecutive starting game streak at 297. Chances are if your under 40 you don’t remember a time in the NFL with out Brett Favre playing on Sunday. This is a monumental feat especially at the quarterback position. Just consider since 1992 the Chicago Bears have watched over 20 QB’s start for their team; and the average career length in the NFL is less than four years.”

The signed ball will include the inscription “297 starts 1992-2010.”

[KnoxHarrington]

I would bet he makes good money maybe 200k a year. His job is an all year job and he probably has to work with all players to make individual workouts and train them as well.

I looked around to see what the average salary of a NFL assistant is: it seems to be around $150K, though position coaches get upwards of $400K, and, of course, some big name coordinators make seven figures, more than some head coaches used to get.

So, yeah, this dude's probably making six figures.

[PapaBear]

Favre tries to profit from end of streak (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/13/favre-tries-to-profit-from-end-of-streak/)


His texting plan isn't unlimited. He needs the extra cash.

[underdog]

I hope everyone is watching the end of this game.

[PapaBear]

Fuck you Baltimore! :furious:

[razorboy]

That was a sick catch.


And the two.

[Snacks]

Balt deserves to lose like they did last week after doing the same shit they did last week. The only difference this time was they didnt turn it over.

[PapaBear]

One of the announcers basically just said that either Houston or Baltimore will win.

[Justice4all]

What a game! It looks like the Baltimore D isn't what it used to be. I can't believe they let Houston to come back like that.

[PapaBear]

YES!:clap:

[Justice4all]

Holy shit! What a way to end that game!

[Judge Smails]

What a game! It looks like the Baltimore D isn't what it used to be. I can't believe they let Houston to come back like that.

Thanks Jinxy

[KnoxHarrington]

That game was a perfect microcosm of the history of the Houston Texans. They put together these awesome drives to claw back into the game, and it looks like they're putting it together and are going to win. They look like a great team, suddenly.

And then they do something stupid and that goes right down the shitter.

[Justice4all]

she is no where near oprah's size, and sorry we dont all wanna fuck light poles like you do

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol::clap:

[Justice4all]

Thanks Jinxy

Sorry man...one play still doesn't take away from the fact that the Ravens D collapsed in the second half.

[TripleSkeet]

How about the Phillies??? LOL I know Im in the wrong thread, I just felt like taunting a little.

[Justice4all]

How about the Phillies??? LOL I know Im in the wrong thread, I just felt like taunting a little.

Typical Philly fan...trying to find joy in all the wrong places. (And I know something about that!)

[Snacks]

Typical Philly fan...trying to find joy in all the wrong places. (And I know something about that!)

yeah b/c yank fans dont talk more shit then any fans? please

[TripleSkeet]

Typical Philly fan...trying to find joy in all the wrong places. (And I know something about that!)

I had alot of joy last night too. NESTEAAAAA PLUUUUUUNGE!!!!

[spoon]

Im not saying the player shouldnt know the rules and alert the league or whoever. Im saying the rules are idiotic that something legal is made illegal by the league.

Not really bc they'd all have "legal" Rxs for plenty of drugs which can be abused for advantages if these rules weren't in place. It's a simple process as Snoogans said. If the need is real all one needs to do is have the player and physician explain his actual therapeutic need and make the league aware of exactly what he's taking.

[spoon]

exactly and its one of the many reasons I have argued against all the assholes who have a problem with the players that have taken them. My Uncle who is a Dr has always told me steroids arent bad for you if they are taken properly and in proper cycles. The entire steroid argument is made to sound worse then it is. Its like any other PSA against drug use, they are meant to scare parents! There is evidence that steroids have been used on baseball and football as far back as the 60's. Baseball has also been known for its speed and uppers! Those are a lot worse for you then steroids!

Anyway back to the argument. If the players has a prescription for a legal drug he shouldnt need to wait for approval to take it. All this player should have to do is provide proof that this was done under a Drs care. I know thats not the rules of the league Im saying it should be the rules. The guy is suspended for taking legal drugs but because he didnt ask permission 1st they suspend him. Its all about control and showing who is boss. Its a bullshit power trip by the league!

BTW I dont even like the Patriots but I think its wrong they are getting fucked like this!

Does ur doctor work for Balco? Come on man, even used under strict supervision for many medical needs all forms of steroids used over time have TONS of medical drawbacks.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Here ya go Spy...get crackin..


http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/7316/38730710.jpg (http://img815.imageshack.us/i/38730710.jpg/)



Sig FAIL. Don Meredith was the spokesperson for Lipton, not Nestea.

[spoon]

look at that!!!!

It has always made me laugh when they make players that did juice out to be villains. There have been lots of Drs that have said steroids really only give recovery to a player more then anything else. I compare steroid use to Tommy John surgery or Cortisone Shots (which is a steroid). They all help continue a players career especially ones that would be over before they start. Not only have players been able to come back and play from tommy john surgery most have come back as more of a power pitcher. You are supposed to be happy about advances in medicine to help continue a career or help give you the boost and recovery to play the next day. But because of assholes like Bob Costas who hate that todays athletes were breaking records that nerds like Costas jerked off to as a child they created this mess and made it worse then it is. For how much fans even hated steroids it only lasted a few years. For the most part the majority of fans dont give 2 shits about it.

But they got what they wanted, to make criminals out of Bonds and Clemons. I hope they both win their cases!

Anyway...

:blink:

[spoon]

Hell if I was ESPN I would play the Giants game instead of the Baltimore game.


What!? The Giants were playing Tavaris Jackson and an awful Minny team versus what turned out to be an amazing game/finish. Homer much?

[Justice4all]

yeah b/c yank fans dont talk more shit then any fans? please

Stop it.
Try finding someone talking Yanks, Red Sox or any other baseball team smack in the middle of the football thread in Nov. or Dec.

[spoon]

I know it sounds insane, but what about playing the game at Target FIeld?

Honestly, THAT would have been AWESOME! However, I'm not even sure they have the ability to set the field up for football and the Giants didn't have the right equipment with them for an outdoor game versus the domes/turf.

[Justice4all]

What!? The Giants were playing Tavaris Jackson and an awful Minny team versus what turned out to be an amazing game/finish. Homer much?

Oh 20/20 hindsight make you out to be an Einstein does it?

yes the Giants game was not much to watch then the Texans/Ravens. But how could we know that BEFORE the game?

And again, why couldn't ESPN take both games and show them like they do opening week?

[PapaBear]

Oh 20/20 hindsight make you out to be an Einstein does it?

yes the Giants game was not much to watch then the Texans/Ravens. But how could we know that BEFORE the game?

And again, why couldn't ESPN take both games and show them like they do opening week?
And just throw the Fox contract in the trash? I'm sure they'd love that.

[Justice4all]

Is it me or am I seeing way too many helmets come flying off the players in the middle of a play this year?
So much for the vaunted new helmets to protect the players.

[Justice4all]

And just throw the Fox contract in the trash? I'm sure they'd love that.

Hey I don't know the specifics. And maybe ESPN could compensate Fox in some way.
I just was asking. it's not like i know how these things work.

[spoon]

The Bears/Patriots game should be fun with the weather like it is.

It was for the Pats at least.

[spoon]

this is a job saving performance by the chargers.

spoon is very happy to hear that

:glurps:

While I like that they have a shot to make the playoffs still bc of the win, Norv still sucks and don't forget it was Brody Croyle's Chiefs.

[TripleSkeet]

Sig FAIL. Don Meredith was the spokesperson for Lipton, not Nestea.

The point of the sig was Desean Jackson doing the Nestea plunge in Dallas on the night they remembered Don Merediths passing.

[PapaBear]

Fuck San Diego! Whether I pick them or not, they've only given me three wins in the Pro Pickem this year. :furious:

[PapaBear]

The point of the sig was Desean Jackson doing the Nestea plunge in Dallas on the night they remembered Don Merediths passing.
I have to side with Tenbats. It doesn't matter if it was in Dallas on the night they remembered Dandy Don. The Nestea Plunge has absolutely nothing to do with Meredith or Dallas. It was just a player showing off, who probably has no clue what the Nestea Plunge even is.

[spoon]

I think it just ended up showing how weak the entire NFL is.

This Patriots team is a weak team and they're destroying the "top" teams in the NFL.

Well let's be honest, the Pats are always well coached and rebound well. They had some struggles earlier this year mainly due to a VERY young D and changes in their offensive philosophy. Now, not so much and opposing coaches haven't adjusted AT ALL. It's amazing to me how bad the COACHING is in the NFL. Seeing what NE does with it's lesser players and late pickups should happen around the league. It doesn't bc people don't play to player's abilities versus making them fit systems and set plays. What the Pats have done with guys like Faulk and Woodhead are great examples. Hate them, but the respect level is high.

[spoon]

Man if the Jets played the Dolphins 100 times, the Jets would beat the Dolphins 70% of the time. The Jets have the better team. Who would you rather have Henne or the Sanchize.

Didn't the Dolphins win 3 of the last 4 now? Hell it was REALLY close to 4 of 4 for fuck's sake! What are you talking about homer?

[Snacks]

Does ur doctor work for Balco? Come on man, even used under strict supervision for many medical needs all forms of steroids used over time have TONS of medical drawbacks.

so does every drug we use. so whats your point and who cares its our bodies lets us do what we want!

[Snacks]

Oh 20/20 hindsight make you out to be an Einstein does it?

yes the Giants game was not much to watch then the Texans/Ravens. But how could we know that BEFORE the game?

And again, why couldn't ESPN take both games and show them like they do opening week?

because it the NYG and they bore us every week!

[spoon]

How did your team do today? How did they do last week? You guys talk a lot of shit for a team that is awful. Tell me they arent the worst 9-4 team (they were the worst 9-2 team) ever? Tell me what this team has done this year to say you are impressed by them?

I didnt say Miami hasnt played the same teams I also know Miami isnt any better then a .500 team maybe 9-7. But the Jets and Fat Rex have talked so much shit all year and its nice when they get embarrassed like they did!

I'd take 9-4 right now if I could. Beats stressing over even getting TO 9 wins and a chance in the playoffs like the fucking Chargers have to right now. TURNER SUCKS.

The good news is Rivera is really giving this team a defensive identity this year and Rivers can make calls in the huddle to offset Norv. So at least that gives me hope. The bad news is that we'll probably lose Rivera to an open HC job this off season if AJ doesn't wise up and push out Norv.

[Snoogans]

so does every drug we use. so whats your point and who cares its our bodies lets us do what we want!

you are on roids? That explains all the anger. And all those marino comments might be from the brain tumor then

[Snoogans]

because it the NYG and they bore us every week!

dude, i understand when you were a kid you were bored by the giants, but if the dolphins dont bore you, you should be entertained watching snails fuck. Just stop it, the giants are more entertaining then the dolphins will ever be again based on their ability to pick QBs since marino, who was just a huge fuckin failure anyway. FAIL

[Snacks]

Didn't the Dolphins win 3 of the last 4 now? Hell it was REALLY close to 4 of 4 for fuck's sake! What are you talking about homer?

are you really reading posts that far back and catching up on your responses?

[Snacks]

you are on roids? That explains all the anger. And all those marino comments might be from the brain tumor then

no all the drugs we use over a long periods of time fuck with us and are bad for us. thats my point.

[Snacks]

dude, i understand when you were a kid you were bored by the giants, but if the dolphins dont bore you, you should be entertained watching snails fuck. Just stop it, the giants are more entertaining then the dolphins will ever be again based on their ability to pick QBs since marino, who was just a huge fuckin failure anyway. FAIL

This current Miami team bores the shit out of me too. The difference is I would rather be bored by my fav team then someone elses. Your lucky you get to watch your fav team every week. Im forced to watch 2 teams I wish I didnt have to.

Miami has become one of the most boring teams in the league this year!

[Snoogans]

This current Miami team bores the shit out of me too. The difference is I would rather be bored by my fav team then someone elses. Your lucky you get to watch your fav team every week. Im forced to watch 2 teams I wish I didnt have to.

Miami has become one of the most boring teams in the league this year!
you should love watchin the giants every week. thats real football, not like your dolphins shit. I dont even know what the fuck you call that

[Snacks]

you should love watchin the giants every week. thats real football, not like your dolphins shit. I dont even know what the fuck you call that

yeah because watching a QB throw more interceptions then any other QB in the league is always fun. Eli looked GREAT tonight!

[Snoogans]

yeah because watching a QB throw more interceptions then any other QB in the league is always fun. Eli looked GREAT tonight!

its a hell of a lot better than a highlight that featured FOUR punts. I swear, the jets dolphins highlight had four fuckin punts. has that EVER happened before?

[TripleSkeet]

I have to side with Tenbats. It doesn't matter if it was in Dallas on the night they remembered Dandy Don. The Nestea Plunge has absolutely nothing to do with Meredith or Dallas. It was just a player showing off, who probably has no clue what the Nestea Plunge even is.

Don Meredith gets remembered (wrongly) for being a Nestea spokesman all the time. Even by Dallas fans who on their forum are bitching about what a slap in the face it was because Don Meredith was a spokesman for Nestea. I have no doubt that it was completely intentional and planned ahead of time. I think he, like myself and many others just got the tea wrong.

Like I give a fuck, I was like 2 when he was doing those friggen commercials for Lipton anyway. Just put the sig on Spy.

[spoon]

no, cause the culture of the team is being dirtbags. The way everyone acts probably got him to a point where he thought fuck it, this will go over. Its the overall attitude. Decent organizations would never have someone do that cause the person would know before hand its stupid and career suicidal. It clearly reflects on the org

Agreed. Look at the actions of teams like the Bengals in the past under their awful coach and owner, or Oakland for years now. It's the culture of organizations that set the standard for their players and employees. The Jets, along with both teams I mentioned, have disgraceful histories in the past and more recently for the Jets. This year has been one huge clusterfuck of idiotic issues for the Jets, not just a few isolated incidents that all teams surely endure...especially when it involves it's coaches, much less it's head coach.

[spoon]

d

[spoon]

Hey I don't know the specifics. And maybe ESPN could compensate Fox in some way.
I just was asking. it's not like i know how anything works.

NO SHIT!

[spoon]

its a hell of a lot better than a highlight that featured FOUR punts. I swear, the jets dolphins highlight had four fuckin punts. has that EVER happened before?

Being an SD fan, yes. Scifres has been the highlight of SD games in that fashion often. Hell, Oakland and Lechler probably has done it a few times a year too.

[spoon]

Oh 20/20 hindsight make you out to be an Einstein does it?

yes the Giants game was not much to watch then the Texans/Ravens. But how could we know that BEFORE the game?

And again, why couldn't ESPN take both games and show them like they do opening week?

20/20 hindsight? And no, it was posted bc both teams in one game were IN the playoffs hunt and in the other you had a team beaten and battered with an lesser (yes even compared to 65 year old 2010 Favre) QB stepping in for his first start in 2 years. Oh yah, Minny THRILLS everyone even with Favre! You only wanted it on now bc of NYG's involvement.

It'd be different if we were talking any actual flex game versus some schedule change due to an extreme situation as well. Like PB said, not only is ur idea stupid and myopic, it's also not possible contractually.

[underdog]

That game was a perfect microcosm of the history of the Houston Texans. They put together these awesome drives to claw back into the game, and it looks like they're putting it together and are going to win. They look like a great team, suddenly.

And then they do something stupid and that goes right down the shitter.

I think one of the announcers said that the Texans had the most ever come from 21 (or 14) points down to tie it, only to end up losing in the last 2 minutes or overtime. It was a weird stat, but pretty hilarious.

[King Imp]

So, now that the streak is finally over and the NFL doesn't have to look like the bad guy by ending it for him, I wouldn't be surprised to see Favre's suspension come today or sometime this week. You know they've been dragging their ass because they probably have enough evidence, but didn't want to be the ones to end the streak.

[Snacks]

So, now that the streak is finally over and the NFL doesn't have to look like the bad guy by ending it for him, I wouldn't be surprised to see Favre's suspension come today or sometime this week. You know they've been dragging their ass because they probably have enough evidence, but didn't want to be the ones to end the streak.

Evidence of what? A grown man texting a grown women? Nothing about this story says he used his power or threatened her that she needed to have sex with him or lose her job. Everything I have read says she loved the attention and showed her friends the pics while joking about look at Favres cock not OMG Im scared what do I do?

There was no sexual harassment. I still dont believe any guy no matter who he is especially if hes a celeb would just randomly send pics of their dick. They had to have some sort of relationship or she asked for the pics. This is a money grab and an attention seeking whore, and everything has back fire because she is unbelievable and unsympathetic.

[King Imp]

Evidence of what? A grown man texting a grown women? Nothing about this story says he used his power or threatened her that she needed to have sex with him or lose her job. Everything I have read says she loved the attention and showed her friends the pics while joking about look at Favres cock not OMG Im scared what do I do?

There was no sexual harassment. I still dont believe any guy no matter who he is especially if hes a celeb would just randomly send pics of their dick. They had to have some sort of relationship or she asked for the pics. This is a money grab and an attention seeking whore, and everything has back fire because she is unbelievable and unsympathetic.

If they determine that the pics are actually of him, they could use that "player misconduct" rule that they use for suspending people. Hell, there was no actual evidence against Rothlisberger and look what happened to him.

[Justice4all]

yeah because watching a QB throw more interceptions then any other QB in the league is always fun. Eli looked GREAT tonight!

Be careful....you might make Spoon jump into the defense of Eli and his amazing passing abilities.

[CountryBob]

If they determine that the pics are actually of him, they could use that "player misconduct" rule that they use for suspending people. Hell, there was no actual evidence against Rothlisberger and look what happened to him.

This!!!

[spoon]

Be careful....you might make Spoon jump into the defense of Eli and his amazing passing abilities.

It's not defending him when you make the arguments you have. It's pretty much trying to install reason. I've found reason and idiots mix like Tom and water. He's making a one time statement as well based on a few plays in a game the Giants won 21-3 going away. You got on Eli for his one td pass. See the difference re re?! I didn't think so.

[spoon]

This!!!

AND THAT!

[TripleSkeet]

ESPN reporting Washington may bench McNabb and start Rex Grossman against the Cowboys this week.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Just when I thought I couldnt smile any more today.

[Justice4all]

It's not defending him when you make the arguments you have. It's pretty much trying to install reason. I've found reason and idiots mix like Tom and water. He's making a one time statement as well based on a few plays in a game the Giants won 21-3 going away. You got on Eli for his one td pass. See the difference re re?! I didn't think so.

Geeze boy, you are starting to bore me.

I didn't get into Eli, I just said that Boss made a catch that bailed out Eli.
Never mentioned Eli anywhere else. And I didn't say anything untrue.
See the difference there Re re??

[KnoxHarrington]

Hey Vikings fans, ARE YOU REAAAAAAAADY....to freeze your balls off?

he field at TCF Bank Stadium is frozen and blanketed by 5-foot snowdrifts. The concession stands weren't built to withstand temperatures below 30 degrees. There are no beer taps.
But determined to play their final 2010 home game in Minneapolis, the nomadic Minnesota Vikings said on Tuesday that they will face the Chicago Bears on Monday night at the University of Minnesota's 2-year-old stadium. The game will be played 29 years to the day since the Vikings' last outdoor home contest, a 10-6 loss to Kansas City at Met Stadium in 1981.

"They love outdoor football in Minnesota," said Scott Ellison, the university's associate athletic director.

For one night, Vikings fans will learn to love it without their usual seats, luxury suites and parking spots. And, possibly, without their favorite brew: Alcohol is not sold at TCF Bank Stadium during Gophers games. "That's one of a myriad of issues on the table," Vikings Vice President Lester Bagley said of the possibility of selling beer on Monday night.

They better be selling beer. I obviously won't be at the game, but if I had to sit through a game outdoors, at night, in mid-December in Minnesota, I'd want to get shitfaced mysefl.

http://www.startribune.com/local/111867304.html

[disneyspy]

Here ya go Spy...get crackin..


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http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/7316/38730710.jpg (http://img815.imageshack.us/i/38730710.jpg/)

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done,2 weeks from now

[KnoxHarrington]

If you needed any more proof of what a dirtbag organization the Jets are, word comes that not only did assistant coach Sal Alosi intentionally trip a Miami player, he ordered inactive players to form a line to make that player run by him.

The New York Jets suspended assistant coach Sal Alosi indefinitely Wednesday after they discovered he ordered five inactive players to form a wall along the sideline for a punt return, during which he tripped a Miami Dolphins player.
General manager Mike Tannenbaum said Wednesday that Alosi, the team's strength and conditioning coach, did not initially acknowledge that he ordered players to stand that way during the investigation Monday.
"As we continued our investigation, we discovered some new information," Tannenbaum said in a conference call from the NFL owners meetings in Dallas, "and the players at the Miami game were instructed by Sal to stand where they were to force the gunner in the game to run around them."

Seriously, this idiot should have been fired already.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_jets_alosi;_ylt=ApPZ85tLsKXNm0Cj0jav5z8LMxIF;_ ylu=X3oDMTJmYTJlcDZoBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjE1L2Zibl 9qZXRzX2Fsb3NpBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0 b3J5BHNsawNqZXRzc3VzcGVuZGE-

[Snoogans]

If you needed any more proof of what a dirtbag organization the Jets are, word comes that not only did assistant coach Sal Alosi intentionally trip a Miami player, he ordered inactive players to form a line to make that player run by him.



Seriously, this idiot should have been fired already.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_jets_alosi;_ylt=ApPZ85tLsKXNm0Cj0jav5z8LMxIF;_ ylu=X3oDMTJmYTJlcDZoBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjE1L2Zibl 9qZXRzX2Fsb3NpBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0 b3J5BHNsawNqZXRzc3VzcGVuZGE-

there is no way he did this on his own either. They said that he did, but there is no way, rex would clearly have seen them all standing there like that. Im curious to look back at punts from other games this year and see if they were standing like that

[razorboy]

If you needed any more proof of what a dirtbag organization the Jets are, word comes that not only did assistant coach Sal Alosi intentionally trip a Miami player, he ordered inactive players to form a line to make that player run by him.



Seriously, this idiot should have been fired already.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_jets_alosi;_ylt=ApPZ85tLsKXNm0Cj0jav5z8LMxIF;_ ylu=X3oDMTJmYTJlcDZoBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjE1L2Zibl 9qZXRzX2Fsb3NpBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0 b3J5BHNsawNqZXRzc3VzcGVuZGE-

Rex keeps denying. He's either a liar or an idiot. Or both.

[epo]

Rex keeps denying. He's either a liar or an idiot. Or both.

He's a liar. There is no way that shit happens in football and the coach doesn't know.

This is exhibit #715 of what a scumbag operation that Rex Ryan is running in Jetland.

[JimBeam]

there is no way he did this on his own either. They said that he did, but there is no way, rex would clearly have seen them all standing there like that. Im curious to look back at punts from other games this year and see if they were standing like that

I heard on one of the shows this morning that they were like that on the prior punt but were not like that when the Jets punted.

So obvioulsy it's not something they do " all the time " as some suggested.

And I mean that in the way that " Oh it's not a big deal, no conspiracy, they always stand like that. "

[Snoogans]

I heard on one of the shows this morning that they were like that on the prior punt but were not like that when the Jets punted.

So obvioulsy it's not something they do " all the time " as some suggested.

And I mean that in the way that " Oh it's not a big deal, no conspiracy, they always stand like that. "

but they arent allowed to stand like that. They were ahead of the line they are supposed to be behind, the players, by about 4 feet. the coach was the only one who is actually ALLOWED to stand where they were. Thats why its such a big deal.

They said on 1050 today that the jets have been doing that every punt for every game this season. so EVERYONE knew

[underdog]

I heard on one of the shows this morning that they were like that on the prior punt but were not like that when the Jets punted.

So obvioulsy it's not something they do " all the time " as some suggested.

And I mean that in the way that " Oh it's not a big deal, no conspiracy, they always stand like that. "

but they arent allowed to stand like that. They were ahead of the line they are supposed to be behind, the players, by about 4 feet. the coach was the only one who is actually ALLOWED to stand where they were. Thats why its such a big deal.

They said on 1050 today that the jets have been doing that every punt for every game this season. so EVERYONE knew

http://deadspin.com/5713868/how-tripgate-went-down-and-how-its-practiced-around-the-league

[Snoogans]

http://deadspin.com/5713868/how-tripgate-went-down-and-how-its-practiced-around-the-league

that makes it seem like it was legal, but there is a white line further back for players. Coaches can be where Alosi was, but not inactive players. so technically, it wasnt legal

[Snacks]

If you needed any more proof of what a dirtbag organization the Jets are, word comes that not only did assistant coach Sal Alosi intentionally trip a Miami player, he ordered inactive players to form a line to make that player run by him.



Seriously, this idiot should have been fired already.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_jets_alosi;_ylt=ApPZ85tLsKXNm0Cj0jav5z8LMxIF;_ ylu=X3oDMTJmYTJlcDZoBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjE1L2Zibl 9qZXRzX2Fsb3NpBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0 b3J5BHNsawNqZXRzc3VzcGVuZGE-

The organization is trash. It amazes me how the philly fans get such a bad rep but I have never experienced worse,, dirt bag, piece of shit fans with no class like the jets and their fans. I have friends who have gone to phillies games with Mets jerseys on and had great times with other phillies fans. You cant go to a jets game without almost fighting someone, they fight themselves. they are all assholes as we can tell by jets fans on this board.

Anyway the wall was pretty obvious on sunday. The jets didnt even want to speak about this until the next day. They had to get their story all worked out. I think this Alosi guy is taking the fall for the head coach or special teams coach.

It has been funny how former players and current players through out the league have come out and said this was fucked up and you can tell it was coached not a 1 mans bad decision.

[sailor]

Never once had a problem wearing out-of-town gear at a jets game.

[Snoogans]

all class, those new york jets. What a teammate santonio holmes is:

WR Santonio Holmes said yesterday that the reason be came off the field as the punt returner Sunday against Miami was because he'd become so frustrated with how well Dolphins punter Brandon Fields was kicking he begged out of the game, giving way to CB Antonio Cromartie .

"It wasn't fun because the guy was kicking it 60 or 70 yards and he didn't give me a chance to get going," Holmes said. "I was upset. I kind of got frustrated and didn't even want to return punts because of way he was punting the ball.

"I got tired of him punting. Every time he got back to punt, this guy was standing on his own goal line and he's punting it to our 15-yard line. I'm like, 'Who does that?' I told 'West' (special teams coach Mike Westhoff), 'You can send someone else back there. There's no way I want to return 97-yard punts.' "


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/scott_no_divide_in_locker_room_asA31GQtTWotVua5b82 zJI#ixzz18J9Km7BW

[TripleSkeet]

all class, those new york jets. What a teammate santonio holmes is:

Thats indefensible.

[Snacks]

all class, those new york jets. What a teammate santonio holmes is:

heard this today on wfan they went nuts on him. class team, great coaching. This is why their problems are an institutional problem. Some say you cant blame Ryan or Woody Johnson or the GM. But yes, you can because they are all pieces of shit who rather act like fools themselves and created these bad examples for their team. When you are a piece of shit like they are you cant try to tell others how to act. Do as I say not as I do? Well that doesnt last long.

Fucking love all the ammunition this team gives to people who hate them!

[JimBeam]

How can you not blame Ryna when players are making the decisions to not do certain things,

So now a player is running special teams and a wanna-be coach is running the inactive players ?

How is this Alosi guy taking the fall for the Jets ?

They've gotta be paying him under the table to keep his mouth shut otherwise what's in it for him ?

[TripleSkeet]

How can you not blame Ryna when players are making the decisions to not do certain things,

So now a player is running special teams and a wanna-be coach is running the inactive players ?
How is this Alosi guy taking the fall for the Jets ?

They've gotta be paying him under the table to keep his mouth shut otherwise what's in it for him ?

Most veteran recievers that double as punt returners usually have the option of whether they want to do it or not. Its not like when a rookie starts returning punts his first year on the team.

The reason I know this is because the papers here think Desean Jackson is nuts for returning punts as he doesnt even make 1 Mill a year and is due for a big contract in the offseason. Andy Reid has said multiple times that he's only out there doing it because he wants to, and the choice was his if he wanted to stop or not. I gotta believe Sanantonio Holmes has the same kind of pull with the Jets,

[JimBeam]

But if you're a coach and one guy is your best person for a task why would you allow him to not do it ?

It'd be like a place kicker saying " A 55 yarder ? Nah, that's too long for me. Let the punter kick that one. "

[Snoogans]

Most veteran recievers that double as punt returners usually have the option of whether they want to do it or not. Its not like when a rookie starts returning punts his first year on the team.

The reason I know this is because the papers here think Desean Jackson is nuts for returning punts as he doesnt even make 1 Mill a year and is due for a big contract in the offseason. Andy Reid has said multiple times that he's only out there doing it because he wants to, and the choice was his if he wanted to stop or not. I gotta believe Sanantonio Holmes has the same kind of pull with the Jets,

i agree but why he did it and then sayin this is why just makes him such a douche. its awesome. Fuck the Jets.

And the Nets

And the Mets


awesome

[Snacks]

How can you not blame Ryna when players are making the decisions to not do certain things,

So now a player is running special teams and a wanna-be coach is running the inactive players ?

How is this Alosi guy taking the fall for the Jets ?

They've gotta be paying him under the table to keep his mouth shut otherwise what's in it for him ?

Ryan was standing 3 feet away from the Green Wall of the Jets. You blame ryan because he is the leader. Do we blame the president/generals when soldiers fuck up? Yes its a representation of them and he cant control himself so how can he control his team? No they are all lying about it. The lie is always worse then the crime!

[sailor]

Most veteran recievers that double as punt returners usually have the option of whether they want to do it or not. Its not like when a rookie starts returning punts his first year on the team.

The reason I know this is because the papers here think Desean Jackson is nuts for returning punts as he doesnt even make 1 Mill a year and is due for a big contract in the offseason. Andy Reid has said multiple times that he's only out there doing it because he wants to, and the choice was his if he wanted to stop or not. I gotta believe Sanantonio Holmes has the same kind of pull with the Jets,

Is this a defense? I heard it was indefensible.

[spoon]

Is this a defense? I heard it was indefensible.

ha!

[TheGameHHH]

I love how everybody (non-Jets fans too) was slobbing Rex Ryan's knob when Hard Knocks came out and were unable to tell he was a douche then just as much as he's a douche today. I love watching the Jets go through this, one would hope it humbles them but I'm sure after their next victory they'll be spouting off about how great they are again.

[JimBeam]

I've mentioned it before that I don't know how the guy is looked at as this tough guy, no holds barred kinda dude when he cried last year about the possibility of not making the playoffs.

You don't get to have swagger when you cry like a bitch.

[spoon]

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[Justice4all]

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I think there's a message in there somewhere.

[Fallon]

I think there's a message in there somewhere.

Had no idea he was such a big Tampa Bay Lightning fan.

[A.J.]

I think there's a message in there somewhere.

Bolts? Ahhh....Chargers.

[Justice4all]

Bolts? Ahhh....Chargers.

ya think?

[A.J.]

ya think?

I did! Very clever!

[TripleSkeet]

Is this a defense? I heard it was indefensible.

No, that was my response to the accusation that a player is running the special teams. The reason why he didnt want to return punts was indefensible, not that he didnt want to. Many players stop returning punts as the progress as every down stars, but to say he didnt want to do it that game because the punter was too good? Thats such a pussy move.

[Earlshog]

McNabb dropped to third QB; 'Skins to start Grossman vs. Cowboys


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14456033/redskins-to-bench-mcnabb-start-grossman-vs-cowboys

[sailor]

No, that was my response to the accusation that a player is running the special teams. The reason why he didnt want to return punts was indefensible, not that he didnt want to. Many players stop returning punts as the progress as every down stars, but to say he didnt want to do it that game because the punter was too good? Thats such a pussy move.

Was joke. Receivers tend to be a petty lot.

[brettmojo]

McNabb dropped to third QB; 'Skins to start Grossman vs. Cowboys


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14456033/redskins-to-bench-mcnabb-start-grossman-vs-cowboys
That new contract was wooonnderful.

[underdog]

McNabb dropped to third QB; 'Skins to start Grossman vs. Cowboys


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14456033/redskins-to-bench-mcnabb-start-grossman-vs-cowboys

I think Shannahan is one and done. I hope he just comes out and trashes Daniel Snyder afterward.

[A.J.]

I think Shannahan is one and done. I hope he just comes out and trashes Daniel Snyder afterward.

"Get him."

[spoon]

Had no idea he was such a big Tampa Bay Lightning fan.

Says the guy who is YET TO MAKE my awesome sig pic! :furious:

[cougarjake13]

i swear to god it will be a sad day for giants and eagles fans when jerry jones and daniel snyder no longer own the cowgirls and deadskins

[Snacks]

i swear to god it will be a sad day for giants and eagles fans when jerry jones and daniel snyder no longer own the cowgirls and deadskins

the cowboys are having a bad year. its not like jerry jones doesnt put a good team out there almost every year. if i remember correctly the giants were home last year while the cowboys were in the playoffs. now the redskins part of this is true!

[cougarjake13]

the cowboys are having a bad year. its not like jerry jones doesnt put a good team out there almost every year. if i remember correctly the giants were home last year while the cowboys were in the playoffs. now the redskins part of this is true!

yeh the first time in the eli era that the giants didnt make the playoffs and at 8-6 with 2 games to go they had a chance to make it in but the defense was horrendous and injuries too much


redskins are almost always all kinds of suck but with the cowboys like you said theyve been good lately but always find a way for things not to work


and the cowboys only won the one playoff game last year so all they got was the no playoff wins in 14 yrs monkey off their back

[KnoxHarrington]

yeh the first time in the eli era that the giants didnt make the playoffs and at 8-6 with 2 games to go they had a chance to make it in but the defense was horrendous and injuries too much


redskins are almost always all kinds of suck but with the cowboys like you said theyve been good lately but always find a way for things not to work


and the cowboys only won the one playoff game last year so all they got was the no playoff wins in 14 yrs monkey off their back

Both the Cowboys and the Redskins need real, independent GM's who will be allowed to run the team the way they see fit.

I think, in a lot of ways, the owner that gets this the most is Bob Kraft in New England. He just signs the checks and rakes in the cash, and lets Belichick and the front office run the team. Love or hate the Patriots, I think everyone has to admit they've probably shown everyone the blueprint for how to run a team in the era of the hard salary cap in the NFL.

I mean, this is supposed to be a "rebuilding year" for the Pats, and suddenly they look like the odds-on favorite to win the Super Bowl. Again.

[Tenbatsuzen]

What Shanahan has fucking done in DC is laughable. No line? Clubhouse cancers? Rebuilding year? NO, IT'S ALL DONOVAN'S FAULT. ALL OF IT.

Never mind the fact that Shanny has the swinging dick of nepotism going on right now, heading right down David Shula Avenue. Tell Shanny Jr. to work on his restaurant management skills.

If you think REX GROSSMAN is the answer, the question must be the most absurd, depressing thing ever.

Get the fuck out, Donovan. Get your ass to Arizona.

[underdog]

Both the Cowboys and the Redskins need real, independent GM's who will be allowed to run the team the way they see fit.

I think, in a lot of ways, the owner that gets this the most is Bob Kraft in New England. He just signs the checks and rakes in the cash, and lets Belichick and the front office run the team. Love or hate the Patriots, I think everyone has to admit they've probably shown everyone the blueprint for how to run a team in the era of the hard salary cap in the NFL.

I mean, this is supposed to be a "rebuilding year" for the Pats, and suddenly they look like the odds-on favorite to win the Super Bowl. Again.

I think the problem is that teams try to copy what the Patriots seem to be doing, and you end up with Josh McDaniels absolutely tanking the Broncos. You need to have the right guy doing the personnel decisions. Belichick had Pioli helping him for so long. You can't just have the coach making all the decisions, there needs to be some sort of good guidance there with him.

[underdog]

What Shanahan has fucking done in DC is laughable. No line? Clubhouse cancers? Rebuilding year? NO, IT'S ALL DONOVAN'S FAULT. ALL OF IT.

Never mind the fact that Shanny has the swinging dick of nepotism going on right now, heading right down David Shula Avenue. Tell Shanny Jr. to work on his restaurant management skills.

If you think REX GROSSMAN is the answer, the question must be the most absurd, depressing thing ever.

Get the fuck out, Donovan. Get your ass to Arizona.

I think this is just a pissing contest against Snyder, at this point. Shanahan didn't want Donovan playing and benched him for the end of the game. So what does Snyder do? Goes out and signs him to a multi-year, multi-million contract extension. It's just two strong headed people going after each other, at this point. Shanahan gone after this year.

[Justice4all]

What Shanahan has fucking done in DC is laughable. No line? Clubhouse cancers? Rebuilding year? NO, IT'S ALL DONOVAN'S FAULT. ALL OF IT.

Never mind the fact that Shanny has the swinging dick of nepotism going on right now, heading right down David Shula Avenue. Tell Shanny Jr. to work on his restaurant management skills.

If you think REX GROSSMAN is the answer, the question must be the most absurd, depressing thing ever.

Get the fuck out, Donovan. Get your ass to Arizona.

McNabb being in AZ would only work if Larry is still with the team and that is doubtful.

Donovan certainly didn't have a stellar year like he has had with the eeekals but lets be real here, Shannahan had it in for him from the start and everyone saw it. I think he is going to kill the team. He's not the coach he once was and also the team was riddled with injuries this year (if I am not mistaken).
The only bright spot is their new RB.

I think for McNabb to be benched and then told "you might not be here next year" ALREADy by the coach (and then told to the media by the same coach) is disgusting. There are certain things you wait to announce at the end of the season, and that would be one of them. That coach, in my opinion, is an outright asshole for doing that now instead of after the season ends.

As a Giants fan when Tiki announced his retirement way before the season ended we thought it was one hell of a selfish act. This is about Shannahan's ego.

[spoon]

What Shanahan has fucking done in DC is laughable. No line? Clubhouse cancers? Rebuilding year? NO, IT'S ALL DONOVAN'S FAULT. ALL OF IT.

Never mind the fact that Shanny has the swinging dick of nepotism going on right now, heading right down David Shula Avenue. Tell Shanny Jr. to work on his restaurant management skills.

If you think REX GROSSMAN is the answer, the question must be the most absurd, depressing thing ever.

Get the fuck out, Donovan. Get your ass to Arizona.

So wait, are you blaming Shanahan, his son or Mcnabb? You're all over the place.

[spoon]

Oh it's true, Shanahan is a complete asshole. Add junior to the mix and you have an asshole sandwich with shit as the spread.

[Tenbatsuzen]

So wait, are you blaming Shanahan, his son or Mcnabb? You're all over the place.

The line about it all being Donovan's fault should have had sarcasm tags. This is all on Shanahan and also bringing his son in to run the offense. Nepotism can't work on a team that's falling apart at the seams to begin with.

[Tenbatsuzen]

McNabb being in AZ would only work if Larry is still with the team and that is doubtful.


Larry or not, AZ needs a QB. Donovan loves Arizona. It's a good fit, and even with Donovan's eroded skills, he can hang in the NFC West bigtime and get some confidence back.

[spoon]

The line about it all being Donovan's fault should have had sarcasm tags. This is all on Shanahan and also bringing his son in to run the offense. Nepotism can't work on a team that's falling apart at the seams to begin with.

yah you surely lost me on that one I admit

Oh and I really believe they have very few weapons in Washington, but shanny jr's lack of use of two very good pass catching te's is awful. Both Cooley and Davis make for matchup nightmares and easy outs for a guy like McNabb who loves to use the TE. Just look at how easily Torain was cutting up the D last week in the first half only to have the Shanny boys not use him almost at all in the 2nd half? WTF?! I truly never considered the elder Shanahan to be a very good coach either. He just walked into a TON of talent and his lines got away with REAL dirty tactics, career ending tactics for many D-linemen and LBs, when his teams were running over the competition.

[TripleSkeet]

McNabb dropped to third QB; 'Skins to start Grossman vs. Cowboys


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14456033/redskins-to-bench-mcnabb-start-grossman-vs-cowboys

:lol::lol::lol::laugh::lol::lol::lol:

Made me remember some of these offseason gems...
the NFC EAST is now a 3 team race,and sorry philly fans,you're no longer in the race

Advantage 'skins. And the tumble down the ladder officially begins for the Eagles.



Larry or not, AZ needs a QB. Donovan loves Arizona. It's a good fit, and even with Donovan's eroded skills, he can hang in the NFC West bigtime and get some confidence back.

That team needs alot more then a QB. Especially if Fitzgerald leaves. If he goes there they improve at the position but dont expect the team to do much.

[spoon]

Larry or not, AZ needs a QB. Donovan loves Arizona. It's a good fit, and even with Donovan's eroded skills, he can hang in the NFC West bigtime and get some confidence back.

I'm still really shocked that they didn't have a backup plan to losing their qb after they shipped out the next in line. I find it odd they just didn't seem to realize Anderson's EXTREMELY inaccurate arm wouldn't be the answer in any way. With the WRs they still have even with Boldin leaving, you simply can't go into a year with a SHIT division and good playoff team over the past few year and not even come close to replacing Warner's arm. Instead they lose Warner, Rolle and Boldin and expected to compete anyway. They should have at least had a plan if they were so convinced they had to let Leinart go. I know he's third f'n string in Houston behind Orlovsky right now, but they really could have easily won this division with a slightly below average qb.

[Snacks]

What Shanahan has fucking done in DC is laughable. No line? Clubhouse cancers? Rebuilding year? NO, IT'S ALL DONOVAN'S FAULT. ALL OF IT.

Never mind the fact that Shanny has the swinging dick of nepotism going on right now, heading right down David Shula Avenue. Tell Shanny Jr. to work on his restaurant management skills.

If you think REX GROSSMAN is the answer, the question must be the most absurd, depressing thing ever.

Get the fuck out, Donovan. Get your ass to Arizona.

Your comparing Dave Shula who was the miami OC/coach during a time when Miami was winning, had the highest power offense in the league and went to 2 SB with him as the OC. Thats why youre a dick. You try to sound intelligent and use examples but your examples are useless. Comparing a guy who helped bring his team to 2 SB and who helped a team and QB put up numbers that were never seen in the NFL before to a guy who has never done anything is comical!

You try to bash everything Miami and because its so easy for me and everyone to bash the Jets. The difference is the Jets are a proven losing, piece of shit organization and Miami isnt. They might have had some down years in the 2000's. But the Jets can not be compared or even talked about in the same discussion. So stop your bashing because you sound foolish!

[Crispy_Mobile]

The difference is the Jets are a proven losing, piece of shit organization and Miami isnt. They might have had some down years in the 2000's.

that's 1 way to put it.

[JimBeam]

I saw this video making the rounds after the Alosi thing :

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Link to the story :

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/16/remember-when-bill-belichick-tried-to-trip-marvin-harrison-on-the-sideline-in-2004/

[Tenbatsuzen]

Your comparing Dave Shula who was the miami OC/coach during a time when Miami was winning, had the highest power offense in the league and went to 2 SB with him as the OC. Thats why youre a dick. You try to sound intelligent and use examples but your examples are useless. Comparing a guy who helped bring his team to 2 SB and who helped a team and QB put up numbers that were never seen in the NFL before to a guy who has never done anything is comical!


He began his coaching career with the Miami Dolphins in 1982, under his father as head coach. In 1989, Shula was hired by Jimmy Johnson to be his offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys, a position he held for two seasons. Shula was demoted from that position after the 1990 season, and soon thereafter left the Cowboys to take an assistant coaching position with the Cincinnati Bengals in 1991.

In 1992, Shula was named head coach of the Bengals. At age 32, he was one of the youngest men to achieve such a position with an NFL team. His stint with the Bengals was unsuccessful, however. The team compiled a 19–53 record over Shula's four and a half years at the helm.

It wasn't a Miami-bash you jackass. It was going after nepotism, especially since the Shulas are guilty of it and it didn't work.

If you read between the lines, Shula was a clipboard holder for his father. Nothing more.

[Tenbatsuzen]

For what it's worth, the Jets are hanging Alosi out to dry and I'm fucking disgusted with it.

The problem could simply be solved if they said, "Yes, we told them to line up to prove a point that Miami was going OOB. We didn't tell them to trip them."

[Tenbatsuzen]

David Shula record as OC in Dallas: 8-24.

(remember: it's soooooo easy to take the credit when the team is SUCCEEDING, but it's a lot tougher to take it when you're exposed as a fraud.)

(and if you don't think Davey got his job in Dallas through nepotism, well, I just want to let Spoon know I accepted his wedding invitation +1)

[hanso]

For what it's worth, the Jets are hanging Alosi out to dry and I'm fucking disgusted with it.

The problem could simply be solved if they said, "Yes, we told them to line up to prove a point that Miami was going OOB. We didn't tell them to trip them."

Is Alosi dumb enough to not know he is essentially fired? Because there are reports that state when he is he will spill the beans.

[Snacks]

He began his coaching career with the Miami Dolphins in 1982, under his father as head coach. In 1989, Shula was hired by Jimmy Johnson to be his offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys, a position he held for two seasons. Shula was demoted from that position after the 1990 season, and soon thereafter left the Cowboys to take an assistant coaching position with the Cincinnati Bengals in 1991.

In 1992, Shula was named head coach of the Bengals. At age 32, he was one of the youngest men to achieve such a position with an NFL team. His stint with the Bengals was unsuccessful, however. The team compiled a 19–53 record over Shula's four and a half years at the helm.

It wasn't a Miami-bash you jackass. It was going after nepotism, especially since the Shulas are guilty of it and it didn't work.

If you read between the lines, Shula was a clipboard holder for his father. Nothing more.

I could go to wikipedia too. Doesnt matter nepotism or not there is a huge difference. One of them had success under his father the other is garbage and doesnt have a track record. Nepotism didnt get him the job in Dallas as an OC? Demoted or not he was hired by JJ in dallas. Nepotism didnt get him the head coaching job in Cincy. He might not have done well as a head coach but he got his jobs based on his knowledge. Did his father give him a shot? Yes but he obviously performed well enough to help them get to 2 SB and then get jobs away from his father all on his own!

Why dont you go back in hiding like you did all week since your Jets have been bashed (as usual) all over the media with yet another scandal!

[Snacks]

I saw this video making the rounds after the Alosi thing :

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Link to the story :

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/16/remember-when-bill-belichick-tried-to-trip-marvin-harrison-on-the-sideline-in-2004/

That has been everywhere the past few days and it does show the piece of shit that Beicheat is. You can call him one of the greats but Lombardi, Shula, Landry etc would never do something like that. They always had class and Belicheat has always been a slob like Rex!

[hanso]

Saw that on the Rome show Fri. Don't think PTI or around the horn had it on.

[Snacks]

Saw that on the Rome show Fri. Don't think PTI or around the horn had it on.

I think ATH had it yesterday but only in part of another topic, maybe it was PTI but one of them did discuss it as well as Rome!

[underdog]

I saw this video making the rounds after the Alosi thing :

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Link to the story :

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/16/remember-when-bill-belichick-tried-to-trip-marvin-harrison-on-the-sideline-in-2004/

Wow. Something anti-Patriots. This is really something different coming from you, WRESTLINGFAN.

And is that a trip? It looked like Bill was having a fucking seizure.

[underdog]

That has been everywhere the past few days and it does show the piece of shit that Beicheat is. You can call him one of the greats but Lombardi, Shula, Landry etc would never do something like that. They always had class and Belicheat has always been a slob like Rex!

They were football coaches. They were probably pieces of shit, too. They just weren't doing it now, where there is constant coverage and cameras.

[Snacks]

Wow. Something anti-Patriots. This is really something different coming from you, WRESTLINGFAN.

And is that a trip? It looked like Bill was having a fucking seizure.

come on, you have to admit he was trying to prevent him from getting back on the field! He wasnt tripping him but he ran around looking for him and then gave him a shoulder shove and tried to block him and slow him down. Only someone who doesnt want to see that doesnt. It obvious!

[Snacks]

They were football coaches. They were probably pieces of shit, too. They just weren't doing it now, where there is constant coverage and cameras.

I dont know much about Lombardi but I remember Shula, Landry having press conferences and they were always class acts. Bill sounds like a retard and it sounds like hes doing it on purpose. He has always seemed like an asshole but I guess you have to like him if your a Pats fan!

[TripleSkeet]

I dont know much about Lombardi but I remember Shula, Landry having press conferences and they were always class acts. Bill sounds like a retard and it sounds like hes doing it on purpose. He has always seemed like an asshole but I guess you have to like him if your a Pats fan!

Landry could be a scumbag too. I remember a game during the strike year where he had starters that crossed the picket lines and ran up the score against an Eagles team that had all scabs on it.

Now I usually defend running up the score, but this was essentially pros going up against college players that couldnt make it in the big time. I still dont know what he was trying to prove. But thats ok, because Buddy paid back the favor with a nice fake kneel down by Randall.

[sailor]

Wow. Something anti-Patriots. This is really something different coming from you, WRESTLINGFAN.

And is that a trip? It looked like Bill was having a fucking seizure.

now you're just being silly.

[underdog]

come on, you have to admit he was trying to prevent him from getting back on the field! He wasnt tripping him but he ran around looking for him and then gave him a shoulder shove and tried to block him and slow him down. Only someone who doesnt want to see that doesnt. It obvious!

now you're just being silly.

It looked retarded, but I will agree it looks like he was trying to do something. I think the fact that he never takes his hands out of his pockets just makes it look weird. And also that it's so obvious is weird, too.

[JimBeam]

I do agree that he didn't actually trip him but he was getting in his way.

Was it bush league ? Probably yes.

Was it a good tactic / Probably yes as well.

Nothing at all like what Alosi did.

[underdog]

I dont know much about Lombardi but I remember Shula, Landry having press conferences and they were always class acts. Bill sounds like a retard and it sounds like hes doing it on purpose. He has always seemed like an asshole but I guess you have to like him if your a Pats fan!

I like all sorts of coaches. I like Rex Ryan but I hate the Jets. I like Belichick because he wins and I absolutely looooooove how he fucks with the media. It's amazing.

Can you seriously claim you wouldn't want Belichick as your coach?

And just because someone gives good press conferences doesn't mean they're not ultra-competitive dick bags around the field.

[Snoogans]

I do agree that he didn't actually trip him but he was getting in his way.

Was it bush league ? Probably yes.

Was it a good tactic / Probably yes as well.

Nothing at all like what Alosi did.

agreed. he happened to see the guy come near, and decided split second to try to get in his way and slow him down. Its probably a dick move, sure, but its not even close to having people line up in formation to intentionally do that to them and then tripping a guy

what belechik did was more like in season 1 of the wire when the cops are chasing the runner through the pit and boadie kinda just stood in herc's way to slow him down

[Snacks]

I like all sorts of coaches. I like Rex Ryan but I hate the Jets. I like Belichick because he wins and I absolutely looooooove how he fucks with the media. It's amazing.

Can you seriously claim you wouldn't want Belichick as your coach?

And just because someone gives good press conferences doesn't mean they're not ultra-competitive dick bags around the field.

I agree that all you really want is to win and in all honesty I will give Belichek a hard time for that block and even spygate. But the rule of thumb in all sports is "you aint trying if you aint cheating" I think you do need to take advantage of all rules but when your caught then people have a right to bitch.

As for the media, you can ask my cousin crippler there isnt anyone you could find on this board that hates the media more then me. I have my reasons but fuck them. What I dont like about what he does is he doesnt give the most basic of answers that fans wants to hear. Fuck the media just give something for the fans to understand what you were doing, no matter what it was.

To answer your question, YES I would take him and I would even take Rex. I actually like Rex for the most part he brings confidence to a shitty team. But sometimes that back fires like it is now. You need to reel it in sometimes just a bit. There is no team I hate in the NFL but the Jets. Im not happy the Pats are as good as they are. I did hate them and root against them in 07 (for obvious reasons) But for the most part I have nothing against any team in the NFL except the Jets!

I hope Pitts beats the shit out of them tomorrow. Maybe 24-3 with Sanchez throwing 3 more picks!

[cougarjake13]

I like all sorts of coaches. I like Rex Ryan but I hate the Jets. I like Belichick because he wins and I absolutely looooooove how he fucks with the media. It's amazing.

Can you seriously claim you wouldn't want Belichick as your coach?

And just because someone gives good press conferences doesn't mean they're not ultra-competitive dick bags around the field.



hell yeh

wished the giants woulda gave him a shot

[A.J.]

Never mind the fact that Shanny has the swinging dick of nepotism going on right now, heading right down David Shula Avenue. Tell Shanny Jr. to work on his restaurant management skills.

Nepotism almost worked here once before: Marty Schottenheimer and his son who was a coordinator started to turn things around after an 0-5 start. And Schottenheimer also had the good sense to fire Vinny Cerrato. So what does Snyder do after the season? Fires Schottenheimer, brings back Cerrato and hires Steve Spurrier.

I don't understand Snyder's obsession with Shanahan since he has an ego almost as big as Snyder's and was never that impressive building a team on his own in Denver. Those Super Bowl teams were essentially Dan Reeves'.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I could go to wikipedia too. Doesnt matter nepotism or not there is a huge difference. One of them had success under his father the other is garbage and doesnt have a track record. Nepotism didnt get him the job in Dallas as an OC? Demoted or not he was hired by JJ in dallas. Nepotism didnt get him the head coaching job in Cincy. He might not have done well as a head coach but he got his jobs based on his knowledge. Did his father give him a shot? Yes but he obviously performed well enough to help them get to 2 SB and then get jobs away from his father all on his own!

Why dont you go back in hiding like you did all week since your Jets have been bashed (as usual) all over the media with yet another scandal!

Nepotism didn't get him the job in Dallas? Tell me, where was Jimmy Johnson coaching before the Cowboys came a callin'?

And as for getting the Bengals job, they were sold a bill of goods on a shitty coach. And it's the fucking BENGALS, who are known for making absolutely retarded decisions.

You are defending David Shula. DAVID SHULA. Biggest homer EVER. BulldogSnacks.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And Snacks, you missed the point in your rampant homerism.

My point was is that Shanahan's son is a BAD coordinator but Dad is trying to push him into being a bigger deal than he deserves to be. And that leads to failure, just like what happened with David Shula.

and for the record: I'd never, EVER defend Rich Kotite.

[sailor]

smart move by rodgers ducking the pats.

[Snacks]

Nepotism didn't get him the job in Dallas? Tell me, where was Jimmy Johnson coaching before the Cowboys came a callin'?

And as for getting the Bengals job, they were sold a bill of goods on a shitty coach. And it's the fucking BENGALS, who are known for making absolutely retarded decisions.

You are defending David Shula. DAVID SHULA. Biggest homer EVER. BulldogSnacks.

Im not defending him Im just saying your make it seem like he only got the job because his father. Which isnt the case. Im guessing hes working in jax now because of daddy too? Please

[epo]

smart move by rodgers ducking the pats.

Ha! He wasn't cleared by the 1st step which is the team doctor. He didn't even get to the independent neurologist.

With the way this season has gone for Green Bay, making sure he is 100% healthy is the first priority.

[hanso]

Im not defending him Im just saying your make it seem like he only got the job because his father. Which isnt the case. Im guessing hes working in jax now because of daddy too? Please

And if Jax wins the next game they move to 1st.

[sailor]

Ha! He wasn't cleared by the 1st step which is the team doctor. He didn't even get to the independent neurologist.

With the way this season has gone for Green Bay, making sure he is 100% healthy is the first priority.

i've got a bye this week, so i'm glad he's getting the extra week of rest before my first playoff game.

[spoon]

Nepotism didn't get him the job in Dallas? Tell me, where was Jimmy Johnson coaching before the Cowboys came a callin'?

And as for getting the Bengals job, they were sold a bill of goods on a shitty coach. And it's the fucking BENGALS, who are known for making absolutely retarded decisions.

You are defending David Shula. DAVID SHULA. Biggest homer EVER. BulldogSnacks.

Well one thing I agree on is Snacks is one HUGE homer. Oh wait two, I can't stand the Jets either. However, both of you did forget that Kyle Shanahan wasn't first an OC in Washington, but the last two years in a pretty good Houston offense. I hate the kid and his father, but if anything he got a shot early in his career BECAUSE of his name/tie to his father, not directly from him. Much the same can be said of Shula's quick rise as is normally the case with high profile names in coaching with their sons and the coaches under them.

Kyle was with the Texans as they brought in Schaub, Johnson and others after the Carr debacle (and of course his O-line). So as the Texan offense got better, so did Kyle's link to it. Perhaps he's not as responsible as we thought, but it surely can be reasoned that he was at least a big part of it and his initial hiring wasn't such a bad call. He went from wr coach in 06, to qb coach in 07 and filled in at OC when Sherman left from 08-09.

I honestly think it's his father fucking him up in Washington, but it's impossible to know. They never seem to be on the same page in press conferences and they surely have different approaches through recent history in their attacking styles on O. The bad news for Kyle is his father is AWFUL at getting his D to play well and he always seems more interested in the O side of the ball due to his past of course.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Im not defending him Im just saying your make it seem like he only got the job because his father. Which isnt the case. Im guessing hes working in jax now because of daddy too? Please

That's MIKE Shula you choadmongler.

[TripleSkeet]

and for the record: I'd never, EVER defend Rich Kotite.

If you did I swear to God Id have no choice but to hunt you down and hurt you.

Ha! He wasn't cleared by the 1st step which is the team doctor. He didn't even get to the independent neurologist.

With the way this season has gone for Green Bay, making sure he is 100% healthy is the first priority.

I have no idea why but I have this weird feeling Green Bay is going to win that game outright.

[spoon]

If you did I swear to God Id have no choice but to hunt you down and hurt you.



I have no idea why but I have this weird feeling Green Bay is going to win that game outright.

no way in hell

[Snacks]

Well one thing I agree on is Snacks is one HUGE homer. Oh wait two, I can't stand the Jets either. However, both of you did forget that Kyle Shanahan wasn't first an OC in Washington, but the last two years in a pretty good Houston offense. I hate the kid and his father, but if anything he got a shot early in his career BECAUSE of his name/tie to his father, not directly from him. Much the same can be said of Shula's quick rise as is normally the case with high profile names in coaching with their sons and the coaches under them.

Kyle was with the Texans as they brought in Schaub, Johnson and others after the Carr debacle (and of course his O-line). So as the Texan offense got better, so did Kyle's link to it. Perhaps he's not as responsible as we thought, but it surely can be reasoned that he was at least a big part of it and his initial hiring wasn't such a bad call. He went from wr coach in 06, to qb coach in 07 and filled in at OC when Sherman left from 08-09.

I honestly think it's his father fucking him up in Washington, but it's impossible to know. They never seem to be on the same page in press conferences and they surely have different approaches through recent history in their attacking styles on O. The bad news for Kyle is his father is AWFUL at getting his D to play well and he always seems more interested in the O side of the ball due to his past of course.

yeah your not a homer for your teams like Toronto and SD? You talk a lot of shit for someone that does the exact same thing for their own team! Im a fan of Miami but call them out for the shit I dont like.

[spoon]

Talk a lot of shit, I rip my team all fucking day long

However, I'm am nothing close to a homer. talking about ur fav teams and players is much different than your Shula, Marino and fanchise claims. Yes you've been critical of shitty Miami players, just like the Jet fans will call out the obvious with ripping Sal for instance. However, when it comes to further ties to the org or Rex they defend way too much. To call me a homer in ANY sense is unfounded.

I guess I should start claiming Joe Carter is the best player in MLB history and wow was Kelly Gruber a top 5 3rd baseman ever!

Come on man. Just because you say something doesn't make it so. In fact, tell me where I let my being a fan made me a homer?

PS, Fouts is better than Shula, his son and Marino put together.

[spoon]

Roberto Alomar is the best HIV 2nd baseman in HISTORY!

[Snacks]

Talk a lot of shit, I rip my team all fucking day long

However, I'm am nothing close to a homer. talking about ur fav teams and players is much different than your Shula, Marino and fanchise claims. Yes you've been critical of shitty Miami players, just like the Jet fans will call out the obvious with ripping Sal for instance. However, when it comes to further ties to the org or Rex they defend way too much. To call me a homer in ANY sense is unfounded.

I guess I should start claiming Joe Carter is the best player in MLB history and wow was Kelly Gruber a top 5 3rd baseman ever!

Come on man. Just because you say something doesn't make it so. In fact, tell me where I let my being a fan made me a homer?

PS, Fouts is better than Shula, his son and Marino put together.

Exactly just because you say something doesnt make it fact. Im very critical of Miami, especially the past 7 or so years!

[spoon]

Lance Alworth looks better in powder blue than a smurf!

[spoon]

there, i just gave you a few! :lol::wallbash:

[spoon]

Exactly just because you say something doesnt make it fact. Im very critical of Miami, especially the past 7 or so years!

when it's easy and obvious

yet your claims for Marino, Shula's son and the franchise are nothing but fact right?

[spoon]

Norv Turner isn't a good coach. See me take that non-homer stand there...oh wait, to say otherwise would be fucking stupid.

[spoon]

AJ Smith is a headcase and makes just as many bad moves as he does good ones.

Sherman's trade of Cohen for Hunwich was nothing short of awful.

[underdog]

Norv Turner isn't a good coach. See me take that non-homer stand there...oh wait, to say otherwise would be fucking stupid.

I've never seen anyone defend Norv Turner than you. You LOVE him.

[spoon]

I've never seen anyone defend Norv Turner than you. You LOVE him.

ur dead to me

[Tenbatsuzen]

I honestly think it's his father fucking him up in Washington, but it's impossible to know. They never seem to be on the same page in press conferences and they surely have different approaches through recent history in their attacking styles on O. The bad news for Kyle is his father is AWFUL at getting his D to play well and he always seems more interested in the O side of the ball due to his past of course.

Whitlock went on record that things between Kyle and Donovan were EXTREMELY frosty to start and just got worse and worse. So all the discontent with Donovan and the Skins is purely a Kyle thing, not a Mike thing. Glazer said Kyle want to take Donovan out and bench him last week to send a message but McNabb was playing so well they didn't have an excuse to without looking like assholes like they did in the two minute drill shit a few weeks back.

[TripleSkeet]

spoon,

I got that sig you asked for. I was gonna post it in the request thread but I saw you were in here so I figured Id just leave it for you...
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/135/111giou.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/111giou.jpg/)

[spoon]

Whitlock went on record that things between Kyle and Donovan were EXTREMELY frosty to start and just got worse and worse. So all the discontent with Donovan and the Skins is purely a Kyle thing, not a Mike thing. Glazer said Kyle want to take Donovan out and bench him last week to send a message but McNabb was playing so well they didn't have an excuse to without looking like assholes like they did in the two minute drill shit a few weeks back.

Didn't see any of this obviously, but don't doubt it at all. He is his father's son after all. Wasn't he fired by Reeves back in 1991 for starting shit bt him and Elway?

Pretty much I find when looking back that he's a petty man who blames everyone else when shit goes wrong. Hell, look at this year alone in Washington. First it's Haynesworth, then McNabb and now didn't they just cut the holder/punter, Hunter Smith (though not having a good year either), due to the mishandle of the snap on the extra point. From what I've read he was handling awful snaps from a young inexperienced snapper all day and a kicker who already missed two chip shots in that very game. It basically means the Shanahans are good on one thing these days, passing the buck/blaming everyone else. What does this say of their preparation, game planning, situational execution and leadership? Head coach has to go and if only it was that easy to get rid of an owner in this case as well.

[spoon]

spoon,

I got that sig you asked for. I was gonna post it in the request thread but I saw you were in here so I figured Id just leave it for you...
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/135/111giou.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/111giou.jpg/)

I never thought I'd hate and love someone soooo much in the same breath!

Fucking funny shit you asshole!

[spoon]

Now can we just tweak the font a touch and add some...aahaahahahaahaha! :innocent:

[TripleSkeet]

Now can we just tweak the font a touch and add some...aahaahahahaahaha! :innocent:

:lol::lol::lol:

[PapaBear]

Several of my friends, who have been on the Redskins season ticket waiting list (one for at least ten years), are suddenly getting emails saying that season tickets are finally available for next year. Gee... I wonder why?

[spoon]

bc of those fat guys dressing like pigs and women?

all they need is doug williams baby!

[PapaBear]

bc of those fat guys dressing like pigs and women?

all they need is doug williams baby!
Though I love what Williams did for the team, he just saved an already great team at the end of the season, when they were in crisis. Like Ron always talks about, Skins fans are unnaturally optimistic by nature. The fact that season tickets are suddenly available, when said tickets (not counting club seating, which have been available for years due to their ridiculous cost), means the fans are actually starting to give up on them. For the first time in my memory, they aren't ending a bad season by saying "next year will be better". They are giving up their tickets.

[KnoxHarrington]

Though I love what Williams did for the team, he just saved an already great team at the end of the season, when they were in crisis. Like Ron always talks about, Skins fans are unnaturally optimistic by nature. The fact that season tickets are suddenly available, when said tickets (not counting club seating, which have been available for years due to their ridiculous cost), means the fans are actually starting to give up on them. For the first time in my memory, they aren't ending a bad season by saying "next year will be better". They are giving up their tickets.

Why should they be optimistic? Even if Shanahan and McNabb go, Lil' Danny Snyder still owns the team.

[Snacks]

Reports came out that Bill Cowher has a Christmas list of jobs he would be interested if they came available.

Miami Dolphins
Houston Texans
NY Giants

They reported these are the 3 jobs he would want. They said it in this order so I hope if and when Miami fires Sparano he chooses Miami over any other one that might be available!

[hanso]

Sparano gets a bad rap as he dosen't call most of the plays.



Would Cowher work as HC? Or would he want full control?