2011-12 NFL Season

[Snoogans]

never thought he was that good. before the season started some sports website was talking about how over ranked he is and how Flacco gets less respect then him yet he might be the better of the 2 and not just for fantasy.

didnt you have matt ryan like 7th on your QB list?

[Snacks]

didnt you have matt ryan like 7th on your QB list?

thought it was closer to 10 or 12 but maybe still think hes overrated.

[Snoogans]

thought it was closer to 10 or 12 but maybe still think hes overrated.

it may have been, but either way, clearly he is no eli manning

[weekapaugjz]

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[keithy_19]

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Love this team.

[Kevin]

thought it was closer to 10 or 12 but maybe still think hes overrated.

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady
4. Phillip Rivers
5. Drew Brees
6. Michael Vick
7. Tony Romo
8. Ben Roethislberger
9. Matt Schaub
10. Matt Ryan
11. Joe Flacco
12. Josh Freeman
13. Matt Cassel
14. Sam Bradford
15. Eli Manning

You had a guy that got picked on a screen pass higher than Eli...

[Tenbatsuzen]

JOE LEFEGED BABY


woulda been nice if the giants had signed him after the draft. Could use another DB

Wasn't he signed like on the first day after the lockout? Like I remember looking up after the deal was done and he was signed.

[Duke]

looking good ryan mathews :drunk:

[spoon]

Aside from that pick he was dominating. 14 for 21, 221 yards a TD and a pick is fucking awful?

It's the run game that looks awful.

that and his inability to get away from pressure, turnovers that kept Indy in the game and was their ONLY offense in the end and finally his idiotic choice never to throw the ball away

he turned the ball over 3 times, twice putting the ball on the ground, leading to 13 of Indy's 20 pts. let's also remember, he was playing Indy

ben was pretty much the only reason Indy was in the game

[CountryBob]

Thanks Pittsburgh - you fucking cost me a huge amount of $ by totally shitting the bed Sunday. Was giving 14.5 pts and barely won.

[TripleSkeet]

Hey Skeet.

Tell me how the DEAD Giants ass taste.

DREAM TEAM!

Well see who has the better record come Week 17. Good win. That probably guaranteed another year of Coughlin right there.

[TripleSkeet]

And for the record, I would NEVER call a team with no linebackers and offensive line coach pretending to be a D coordinator, the Dream Team.

[Kevin]

Well see who has the better record come Week 17. Good win. That probably guaranteed another year of Coughlin right there.

Why must you say the C word

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Harvard Vs Stafford in the Superbowl.... Lions 28- Bills 20

McNabb is now Football Team Poison ...

Schaub may not able able to win the big game and him and Kubiak may have to be canned once the fighting Hasslebacks win that Division

The Steelers were paid big $$ to keep that Colt game close to help Ratings

Phillip Rivers is a jerk who single-handedly making me lose Fantasy Football matchups

all my garbage means shit because its only week 3 and the story lines always change (except McNabb, team cancer)

[weekapaugjz]

so which version of romo shows up tonight?

[brettmojo]

so which version of romo shows up tonight?
Not the "White McNabb" one.

[cougarjake13]

Well see who has the better record come Week 17. Good win. That probably guaranteed another year of Coughlin right there.

fuck that shit i thank him for the super bowl but id really like cowher in here


they already gave him an extension for 2012 so he wouldnt be a lameduck this year

[Kevin]

Do you think Hank threw up during that spanish version?

And how much more did they have to pay him to do it.

[brettmojo]

White McNabb my asshole.

[brettmojo]

Watching the post game on Sportscenter it's really obvious sometimes Steve Young has had more concussions than he can count on two hands if he could still count on the count of all the concussions he's had affecting his cognitive functions.

[TripleSkeet]

White McNabb my asshole.

I didnt see the game, but I heard when they were up 2, they ran the ball 3 straight times even thought it would give Washington the ball with 2 minutes left and 2 timeouts. Does that sound like a coach confident in putting the ball in his QBs hand at the end of the game? Just saying...

[PapaBear]

I didnt see the game, but I heard when they were up 2, they ran the ball 3 straight times even thought it would give Washington the ball with 2 minutes left and 2 timeouts. Does that sound like a coach confident in putting the ball in his QBs hand at the end of the game? Just saying...
It the receivers he didn't have confidence in. They were causing a cluster fuck.

[Donnie Iris]

that and his inability to get away from pressure, turnovers that kept Indy in the game and was their ONLY offense in the end and finally his idiotic choice never to throw the ball away

he turned the ball over 3 times, twice putting the ball on the ground, leading to 13 of Indy's 20 pts. let's also remember, he was playing Indy

ben was pretty much the only reason Indy was in the game

You realize they were about to put D lineman on O it is so depleted with injury. Ben was the only reason Indy was in the it? Either you didn't watch the game or just don't understand it. I'm not even a Ben fan. It seems like you are to sports opinions what WrestlingFan is to political views.

Oh, and his stats; 25/37 for 364 yards a TD and a pick. Rating of 97.1 which was in the top 5 for the week. The team looked bad, not Ben. Again, normally I'm first to bash him but you're flat out wrong here.

[newport king]

Thanks Pittsburgh - you fucking cost me a huge amount of $ by totally shitting the bed Sunday. Was giving 14.5 pts and barely won.

Don't you know the homeunderdog +7 pts rule? ALWAYS bet the home dog in that case.

[CountryBob]

Don't you know the homeunderdog +7 pts rule? ALWAYS bet the home dog in that case.

Thanks for the knowledge

[brettmojo]

I didnt see the game, but I heard when they were up 2, they ran the ball 3 straight times even thought it would give Washington the ball with 2 minutes left and 2 timeouts. Does that sound like a coach confident in putting the ball in his QBs hand at the end of the game? Just saying...

It the receivers he didn't have confidence in. They were causing a cluster fuck.
Not to mention the fucking center who should be locked out of the team facilities today.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Attention Non Mobile QBs of the NFL If 7 seconds passed, and you still have the football, stop looking for a receiver, you are about to be steamrolled, cough up the football and lose possession..

[A.J.]

God: Human Body Not Designed To Play Football (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/god-human-body-not-designed-to-play-football,26140/)

[spoon]

You realize they were about to put D lineman on O it is so depleted with injury. Ben was the only reason Indy was in the it? Either you didn't watch the game or just don't understand it. I'm not even a Ben fan. It seems like you are to sports opinions what WrestlingFan is to political views.

Oh, and his stats; 25/37 for 364 yards a TD and a pick. Rating of 97.1 which was in the top 5 for the week. The team looked bad, not Ben. Again, normally I'm first to bash him but you're flat out wrong here.

ah, no

he turned the ball over 3 times in very stupid fashion and it lead to almost all the points for the other team that had no offense for 99% of the game

look in the mirror buddy, bc wfan makes his own side to be better than it is even in the face of facts. ben had one pass of 81 yards early due to wallace burning up the d and since that moment was not good bc he didn't protect the ball, and it led to almost all the opposing team's offense and momentum. w/o it, they win in a route. either you didn't watch the game or you're a fucking homer even if you say you aren't.

[Tenbatsuzen]

It seems like you are to sports opinions what WrestlingFan is to political views.



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol:

[spoon]

It's funny bc it's completely wrong. But have fun with idiocy as is your forte.

OH and wow Romo, nice work single handily putting Detroit back in this game. Cutler doing well out there vs Carolina too. Seriously though, wtf is romo doing? And why do I get to say this almost every week?

[sailor]

Hahaha. If Pitt comes back to win after that roughing that will be hilarious.

[spoon]

i could use a mhall td but he hasn't been on the field every time I check

did he get hurt or just in the doghouse?

[sailor]

Eh, that was pretty unlikely anyway. That was still a horrid time for a roughing call.

[IamFogHat]

Washingtons defense has been awesome today.

[spoon]

wow, bradshaw right back at it huh?

cincy?

[sailor]

I think it's a bad idea to try a kick when call time to ice you. Turns out it worked for Nugent tho.

[disneyspy]

what the fuck romo!

[spoon]

I think it's a bad idea to try a kick when call time to ice you. Turns out it worked for hugely tho.

why is it a bad idea?

to me it sounds like the smart play...practice and you get used to always following through

[spoon]

http://www.tobaccofreewny.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Buffalo-Bills-Logo.gif

HIPPO'D!

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[razorboy]

Dream team.

[sailor]

why is it a bad idea?

to me it sounds like the smart play...practice and you get used to always following through

It seems to me a large percentage of the time they make the one that doesn't count and it gets in their head and they miss the second one. I wonder if there are any numbers on this. I doubt it, as who would keep track of fg's that don't count?

[underdog]

Wow, the Cowboys players and the announcers for the game are nearly as dumb as Cowboys fans.

Nice 4th down play.

[sailor]

Glad to see NE have to burn an early timeout. Was going to comment the raiders keep wasting them early on. They had to use one in the first minute of the game??

[spoon]

See snacks, even in an unbalanced matchup on the road Sparano already looks like a better coach. Turner be GONE!

[Snacks]

See snacks, even in an unbalanced matchup on the road Sparano already looks like a better coach. Turner be GONE!

They both suck!

[Snacks]

Lex was in on that first replay, his knee never hit the ground. It was obvious from the replay from the back of the end zone but after they reversed that td he didnt get in on the next play yet they called that a td and that held up on review?

[sailor]

Should go for it here.

Well, not now.

[spoon]

Lex was in on that first replay, his knee never hit the ground. It was obvious from the replay from the back of the end zone but after they reversed that td he didnt get in on the next play yet they called that a td and that held up on review?

not sure wtf they saw on those

however, there is the norm for SD

bailed out by a deep route td and the work of qb keeping the team in it

rivers playing his normal game has saved Turner's job for years now, and Jackson is just a beast

#20 seemingly just watched that play and then kind of attempted to get him before he got up and scored

awful play on d there, not to mention great coverage

[KnoxHarrington]

Tony Romo is so brave and courageous. He can get out there with a punctured lung and blow a lead just as well as he can fully healthy. It's amazing. He is so amazing.

[spoon]

so true

i guess tds to bryant weren't cool enough for him so he decided to throw them to the other team after that seemed to work so well

what a giving guy

[sailor]

Wow, what a bad int. Should have run it.

[spoon]

Wow, what a bad int. Should have run it.

that's the Campbell I know and love

[OGC]

Has anyone mentioned lately how bad Shannon Sharpe is in the CBS studio ?

[KnoxHarrington]

Has anyone mentioned lately how bad Shannon Sharpe is in the CBS studio ?

Sometimes I think he's speaking English, but then I'm not sure.

[spoon]

Has anyone mentioned lately how bad Shannon Sharpe is in the CBS studio ?

no need, it's like the you understood rule in spanish

[sailor]

that's the Campbell I know and love

the announcers were saying he was throwing it away, but it's clear he got confused and threw to the wrong team.

[spoon]

the announcers were saying he was throwing it away, but it's clear he got confused and threw to the wrong team.

so he was being a romo?

[sailor]

so he was being a romo?

apparently.

[spoon]

pretty sure that's the worst thing you can say about a man

careful

[sailor]

pretty sure that's the worst thing you can say about a man

careful

about a qb, anyways.

[underdog]

Wow, Giants just got very lucky.

[Snacks]

That was the worst call this year. I hope Arz scores to win this game now!

[Snacks]

I feel bad for Fitz and a lot of their players. But I have never liked their douche head coach and watching him on the sidelines made me smile. Why wouldnt you call time out there? Arz got fucked but they hurt themselves too!

[Snoogans]

Flacco is impressing me big time right now

[Snoogans]

was

[spoon]

he went romouge on us!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Has anyone mentioned lately how bad Shannon Sharpe is in the CBS studio ?

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[Tenbatsuzen]

I think if this game isn't an example of why Nick Mangold should be a first ballot HOFer, I'm not sure what will be.

[spoon]

ah no

[Snoogans]

I think if this game isn't an example of why Nick Mangold should be a first ballot HOFer, I'm not sure what will be.

wow thats a bit of a fuckin stretch, jesus.

[spoon]

flacco only to be out done by the master!

wow this is some AWFUL qb play overall being put on by both teams

[Snoogans]

if that right there doesnt show why mark sanchez should be a first ballot HOFer, i dont know what does

[Tenbatsuzen]

wow thats a bit of a fuckin stretch, jesus.

OK, maybe not first ballot, but definitely in the conversation.

[Snoogans]

isnt mangold in like his third year? You know who else must be a first ballot HOF lock, Jesus Montero

[Kevin]

isnt mangold in like his third year? You know who else must be a first ballot HOF lock, Jesus Montero

#77 is more of a HOF lock

[Tenbatsuzen]

isnt mangold in like his third year? You know who else must be a first ballot HOF lock, Jesus Montero

Fifth year, 3 Pro Bowl selection, 2x All Pro.

[spoon]

Fifth year, 3 Pro Bowl selection, 2x All Pro.

my error, that screams first-ballot NFL HOF for a center!

start sculpting that bust now Roger!

[Kevin]

11-33.

Thats a franchise QB right there...

[spoon]

11-33.

Thats a franchise QB right there...

11-35

[spoon]

ground and pound baby!

[TripleSkeet]

While it hurts to see the Eagles losing the way they are it doesnt really surprise me. Typical Andy Reid smarter-then-everyone-else-in-the-room mentality. Youre fucking defensive coordinator doesnt know what hes doing. Youre linebackers blow camel dick. Youre safetie too. But keep telling us how great they are and how you have to do better you fucking walrus. 10 years of the same bullshit dreck.

But on the upside, McNabb lost to Kansas City today. Thats makes me :lol::lol::lol:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

both defenses looked good.. the Jets lost because their O Line couldn't stop the QB Sack & Forced Fumble ...

I wont hate on the Jets, but if anything further happens to Mangold, then they are 8-8 if they are lucky


should have paid Woody.. now he works for DouchESPN

[weekapaugjz]

HIPPO'D!

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ha. man, the bills were dreadful yesterday. couldn't get shit going on offense. defense looked like a JV squad out there. leodis mckelvin might be the worst cornerback in the league. cincy's defense is solid and a.j. green looks like he might be a playmaker for years to come.

[TripleSkeet]

My FB pick was Cinci yesterday. 3-1 so far this year. Buffalo won their Super Bowl last week. No way they were winning this one.

[TripleSkeet]

Oh by the way, this was the worst call of the season so far.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-10-03/report-nfl-head-of-officiating-agrees-with-non-fumble-call?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl6%7Csec3_lnk1%7C100953

And Carl Johnson is an even bigger asshole for trying to defend it. Been watching football for 30 years, can someone tell me when a player was able to "declare himself down" besides when a QB slide or a guy kneels in the endzone for a touchback? When did this ridiculous rule Ive never heard of come into being???

[Snoogans]

Oh by the way, this was the worst call of the season so far.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-10-03/report-nfl-head-of-officiating-agrees-with-non-fumble-call?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl6%7Csec3_lnk1%7C100953

And Carl Johnson is an even bigger asshole for trying to defend it. Been watching football for 30 years, can someone tell me when a player was able to "declare himself down" besides when a QB slide or a guy kneels in the endzone for a touchback? When did this ridiculous rule Ive never heard of come into being???

ive seen it in times where a team squib kicks and some blocker grabs the ball, he will usually just kneel down on the spot, as if he is in the endzone, and they blow it dead. But every time i have ever seen it, it was a clear kneel down

[TripleSkeet]

ive seen it in times where a team squib kicks and some blocker grabs the ball, he will usually just kneel down on the spot, as if he is in the endzone, and they blow it dead. But every time i have ever seen it, it was a clear kneel down

Yea but even then, usually the guy gets the ball and just curls into a ball on the ground and someone from the other team will run up and just tap him, right? Pretty much any one of those Ive ever seen anyway.

[Kevin]

ive seen it in times where a team squib kicks and some blocker grabs the ball, he will usually just kneel down on the spot, as if he is in the endzone, and they blow it dead. But every time i have ever seen it, it was a clear kneel down

Rams WRs used to do it all the time.

[Snoogans]

Rams WRs used to do it all the time.

but they would let themselves be touched

[epo]

Fifth year, 3 Pro Bowl selection, 2x All Pro.

You are out of your damn mind. Stop being such a fucking homer.

[Kevin]

Nick Mangold would never laid down that way, the seas would have parted and the first ballot HOF would have easily scored.

[Snoogans]

the best part is, in football, esp with HOF, it matters that you win. In most sports, its pure about stats, but if another Jet has told us anything, football is about winning. Mangold hasnt won SHIT, and he wont as long as mark sanchez plays on his team.

[Snoogans]

You are out of your damn mind. Stop being such a fucking homer.

we should start callin tenbatz Greg Buttle

[Kevin]

the best part is, in football, esp with HOF, it matters that you win. In most sports, its pure about stats, but if another Jet has told us anything, football is about winning. Mangold hasnt won SHIT, and he wont as long as mark sanchez plays on his team.

But he isnt just a Man.. he is a MAN GOLD!!!

[Jujubees2]

Hank Williams Jr. bounced from tonight's Monday Night Football opener after controversial comments (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_hank_williams_jr_compares_president_obama_to_ad olf_hitler_in_interview_on_fox_an.html#ixzz1ZlKqNn uv)

[brettmojo]

Hank Williams Jr. bounced from tonight's Monday Night Football opener after controversial comments (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_hank_williams_jr_compares_president_obama_to_ad olf_hitler_in_interview_on_fox_an.html#ixzz1ZlKqNn uv)
Next will be Faith Hill making fun of retards... Then prime time football will be more enjoyable again.

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's my favorite part of Hank Jr's idiocy, from a transcript of the show. "Doocy" is one of the hosts.

WILLIAMS: Obama! And Biden! Are you kidding? The Three Stooges.

DOOCY: That's only two.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201110030001

[Kevin]

Snoogans is inconsolable...

[weekapaugjz]

i don't know how they expect people to get rowdy tonight.

http://goodwalkspoiled.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/hank-williams-jr-mnf.jpg

[Snoogans]

this was the first monday night where I was ever truly ready. Fuck that stupid song

[Kevin]

i don't know how they expect people to get rowdy tonight.

http://goodwalkspoiled.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/hank-williams-jr-mnf.jpg

Is hank flashing gang signs?

WHITESIDE!!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's funny. Quite a few entertainers have made comparisons between Bush and Hitler and/or Nazis, and they got a pass, and Hank's gonna get crucified for this.

What's worse is that he didn't even say Obama was Hitler, he was making comparisons between enemies hanging out. Incredibly poor choice of words, but he didn't say Obama = Hitler.

[brettmojo]

So who gets the new theme song? I'm thinking CeeLo, Black Eyed Peas or the like.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's funny. Quite a few entertainers have made comparisons between Bush and Hitler and/or Nazis, and they got a pass, and Hank's gonna get crucified for this.

What's worse is that he didn't even say Obama was Hitler, he was making comparisons between enemies hanging out. Incredibly poor choice of words, but he didn't say Obama = Hitler.

Well, it may or may not be a little hypocritical, but if it ends one of the shittiest "traditions" in sports broadcasting, I'm A-OK with it.

Now we just need to get Dick Vitale to go on Fox & Friends.

[epo]

It's funny. Quite a few entertainers have made comparisons between Bush and Hitler and/or Nazis, and they got a pass, and Hank's gonna get crucified for this.

What's worse is that he didn't even say Obama was Hitler, he was making comparisons between enemies hanging out. Incredibly poor choice of words, but he didn't say Obama = Hitler.

He used an analogy to compare Obama to Hitler:

"It'd be like Hitler playing golf with (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu."

I'm sorry, he deserves to be crucified for that kind of bullshit.

[Judge Smails]

So who gets the new theme song? I'm thinking CeeLo, Black Eyed Peas or the like.

I nominate Crazed:

"Here come the Colts and the Bucs coming at you with the ones and the twos and the pink shoes that they choose."

[weekapaugjz]

Well, it may or may not be a little hypocritical, but if it ends one of the shittiest "traditions" in sports broadcasting, I'm A-OK with it.

Now we just need to get Dick Vitale to go on Fox & Friends.

your lack of rowdiness disturbs me.

[Tenbatsuzen]

He used an analogy to compare Obama to Hitler:

"It'd be like Hitler playing golf with (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu."

I'm sorry, he deserves to be crucified for that kind of bullshit.

Did you even read my post?

The metaphor is two enemies playing golf. One of the biggest Jewish political leaders and a mass killer of Jews. THAT'S the metaphor. It's a SHIT metaphor, but the idea is two enemies playing golf.

And how do you know he wasn't compared Boehner to Hitler and Obama was Netanyahu?

[brettmojo]

I expect rednecks to make good analogies like I expect CC not to fucking shit the bed tonight.

[weekapaugjz]

I expect rednecks to make good analogies like I expect CC not to fucking shit the bed tonight.

heh.

[Snoogans]

Did you even read my post?

The metaphor is two enemies playing golf. One of the biggest Jewish political leaders and a mass killer of Jews. THAT'S the metaphor. It's a SHIT metaphor, but the idea is two enemies playing golf.

And how do you know he wasn't compared Boehner to Hitler and Obama was Netanyahu?

see, this is why you always cause shit on the board. your first point in this post is actually very valid, and i happen to completely agree. He was sayin (stupidly) that repubs and dems are mortal enemies, or should be. Thats what he was tryin to say. Not that obama is hitler.

However, tenbatz, please. Even if you dont know, you KNOW HANK FUCKIN WILLIAMS JR is not giving respect to obama and shitting on a republican. That kind of naivety is just silly and cant be real.


and to agree with knox. I dont care if he said obama is god, the father, almighty creator of heaven and earth, i still dont wanna hear that stupid fuck song anymore

[keithy_19]

I nominate Crazed:

"Here come the Colts and the Bucs coming at you with the ones and the twos and the pink shoes that they choose."

:lol:

[Tenbatsuzen]

see, this is why you always cause shit on the board. your first point in this post is actually very valid, and i happen to completely agree. He was sayin (stupidly) that repubs and dems are mortal enemies, or should be. Thats what he was tryin to say. Not that obama is hitler.

However, tenbatz, please. Even if you dont know, you KNOW HANK FUCKIN WILLIAMS JR is not giving respect to obama and shitting on a republican. That kind of naivety is just silly and cant be real.


and to agree with knox. I dont care if he said obama is god, the father, almighty creator of heaven and earth, i still dont wanna hear that stupid fuck song anymore

I was being a dick, but it also goes back to my original point - a lot of celebs have made Bush/Hitler comparisons and they get a pass, but now everyone's all boo hoo hoo because there is a very UNCONNECTED metaphor and the press goes nuts.

[Snoogans]

I was being a dick, but it also goes back to my original point - a lot of celebs have made Bush/Hitler comparisons and they get a pass, but now everyone's all boo hoo hoo because there is a very UNCONNECTED metaphor and the press goes nuts.

they get a pass how? Tons of celebs might have done it, but none of them were doing the theme song for a primetime network show. Im sure if they had been, they woulda got the same reaction. But fans dont give a fuck, so songs will keep being bought, movies will keep being paid for, regardless of what people say. Its when you possibly turn off sponsors, thats when they fuck you

this isnt about hank, its about what hank did for a living. If NBC had chose Kanye for their theme say, and then he did that shit he did about bush, you bet your fuckin ASS they woulda fired him too

[Snoogans]

the saddest part about the whole thing was, the guy on fox goin....i dont get your analogy


do you even know who netanyahu is? I dont know why someone wouldnt understand


and yea i prob fucked up the spelling. i dont care

[Tenbatsuzen]

the saddest part about the whole thing was, the guy on fox goin....i dont get your analogy


do you even know who netanyahu is? I dont know why someone wouldnt understand


and yea i prob fucked up the spelling. i dont care

No, you got it.

And the reason why the Fox guy said "I don't get your analogy" is because he had a producer screaming in his ear to let him keep talking to dig his hole.

[brettmojo]

I'm... I'm sorry that I did that. DON'T CUT OFF MY RESIDUALS!!! (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hank-williams-jr-obama-hitler-comparison-243264?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

[epo]

No, you got it.

And the reason why the Fox guy said "I don't get your analogy" is because he had a producer screaming in his ear to let him keep talking to dig his hole.

And he was dumb & drunk enough to take the bait.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And he was dumb & drunk enough to take the bait.

Yeah, and he said "they're enemies".

which basically explains the analogy

[epo]

Yeah, and he said "they're enemies".

which basically explains the analogy

That explains using an analogy. It does not explain using Adolf Hitler in the analogy.

[brettmojo]

That explains using an analogy. It does not explain using Adolf Hitler in the analogy.
Well he was on Fox News... He was probably just trying to use a figure they could all related to.

[TripleSkeet]

How do you know the jew was the good guy in that comparison?

[KnoxHarrington]

Well he was on Fox News... He was probably just trying to use a figure they could all related to.

Honestly, the fact he did it on Fox News might hurt him more than saying that just about anywhere else. Remember that not long ago they were going apeshit over the piece Jon Stewart did showing all the Hitler/Nazi references made on their programming, and suddenly here comes some hayseed drunk has-been doing it all over again. They'll pile on with everyone else, probably even more so.

[Dude!]

He used an analogy to compare Obama to Hitler:

"It'd be like Hitler playing golf with (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu."

I'm sorry, he deserves to be crucified for that kind of bullshit.

you never cease to amaze...

homo that you are,
you'd only understand this
if he had said:

"It'd be like Joan Crawford playing golf with Bette Davis"

[FatassTitePants]

I don't care what anybody thinks...I am a Dude! fan.

[Snacks]

He used an analogy to compare Obama to Hitler:

"It'd be like Hitler playing golf with (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu."

I'm sorry, he deserves to be crucified for that kind of bullshit.

he also said he doesnt understand how Behner (sp?) could play golf with him hes the enemy and he also said something about obama and biden being the 3 stooges and how the president and congress should be compromising! He sounded like a total asshole. I always knew he was a white trash hick who had nothing to offer society but the opening song for MNF and now he doesnt have that. Even the host from fox news who was questioning him seemed to question his words. Fuck him!

[Snacks]

Did you even read my post?

The metaphor is two enemies playing golf. One of the biggest Jewish political leaders and a mass killer of Jews. THAT'S the metaphor. It's a SHIT metaphor, but the idea is two enemies playing golf.

And how do you know he wasn't compared Boehner to Hitler and Obama was Netanyahu?

They are both Americans thats all that matters so yes they should play golf and show the country that they might disagree but that doesnt mean you have to hate and not work together.

[hanso]

He can go hunting at the N-head ranch.

[Snacks]

he also said he doesnt understand how Behner (sp?) could play golf with him hes the enemy and he also said something about obama and biden being the 3 stooges and how the president and congress should be compromising! He sounded like a total asshole. I always knew he was a white trash hick who had nothing to offer society but the opening song for MNF and now he doesnt have that. Even the host from fox news who was questioning him seemed to question his words. Fuck him!

Shouldn't be compromising, my bad!

[hanso]

He said Obama was the enemy. So it's odd that some say he could have ment Hitler was the other guy.

[epo]

He said Obama was the enemy. So it's odd that some say he could have ment Hitler was the other guy.

I just pray that his shitty song never is played before a football broadcast again.

[cougarjake13]

he also said he doesnt understand how Behner (sp?) could play golf with him hes the enemy and he also said something about obama and biden being the 3 stooges and how the president and congress should be compromising! He sounded like a total asshole. I always knew he was a white trash hick who had nothing to offer society but the opening song for MNF and now he doesnt have that. Even the host from fox news who was questioning him seemed to question his words. Fuck him!

i understand what he was trying to say and he has the right to say it in this country but you have to know how its gonna sound and the backlash there after

unless youre completely hammered and dont give a fuck like he sounded

[Kevin]

i understand what he was trying to say and he has the right to say it in this country but you have to know how its gonna sound and the backlash there after

unless youre completely hammered and dont give a fuck like he sounded

And you are a complete racist dirtbag like he is.

[cougarjake13]

And you are a complete racist dirtbag like he is.

so we should just be pc in all our commentary and not make any analogies ever bc it may offend someone ?

fuck that


like i said im not condoning what he said but he has the right to his opinion however misguided it may be

[cougarjake13]

And you are a complete racist dirtbag like he is.

would u have prefered if he said darth vader and yoda ??

is that more happy happy pc for ya ?

[PapaBear]

Little known fact... There was actually a football game after there wasn't a song about football games.

[cougarjake13]

Little known fact... There was actually a football game after there wasn't a song about football games.

and it wasnt the debacle i thought it would be sans peyton

[Kevin]

so we should just be pc in all our commentary and not make any analogies ever bc it may offend someone ?

fuck that


like i said im not condoning what he said but he has the right to his opinion however misguided it may be

I don't really care, im just saying he is a racist D bag.

Im just glad that Godawful song is off the air.

[PapaBear]

and it wasnt the debacle i thought it would be sans peyton
And they had the sense to show the sickening injury, but not replay it 20 times.

[cougarjake13]

And they had the sense to show the sickening injury, but not replay it 20 times.

once was all that was necessary

[PapaBear]

once was all that was necessary
I thought they wouldn't show it at all. A couple of weeks ago, one network (I can't remember which one) wouldn't show a guy get his elbow dislocated.

EDIT: I just read that he got a partially dislocated ankle. I woulda swore he broke his shin in half.

[TripleSkeet]

I thought they wouldn't show it at all. A couple of weeks ago, one network (I can't remember which one) wouldn't show a guy get his elbow dislocated.

EDIT: I just read that he got a partially dislocated ankle. I woulda swore he broke his shin in half.

I think that was Amendola in the Rams / Eagles game.

[hanso]

I just pray that his shitty song never is played before a football broadcast again.

What was played in its place? Just wondering.

[Earlshog]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066905/chad-henne-miami-dolphins-rest-season-sage-rosenfels-signed-sources-say

Chad Henne out for season

[Gutter]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066905/chad-henne-miami-dolphins-rest-season-sage-rosenfels-signed-sources-say

Chad Henne out for season

I heard they signed Sage Rosenfels.

[Snacks]

I heard they signed Sage Rosenfels.

they should have never gotten rid of him 4 or 5 years ago in the first place.

[Earlshog]

I heard they signed Sage Rosenfels.

Yup David Garrard wanted a guaranteed $750,000 to finish out the year. They didn't want to pay. I understand they want Luck and Moore gives them the best chance to acheive that goal. It's still a travesty of what has happened to this once proud organization.

[Earlshog]

they should have never gotten rid of him 4 or 5 years ago in the first place.

yeah probally would have won a couple superbowls if they had held on to him... :innocent:

[Gutter]

they should have never gotten rid of him 4 or 5 years ago in the first place.

He played pretty well for the Texans too for a couple years or so. I think they got the most use out of him, so not sure why they let him go either.

[Gutter]

Yup David Garrard wanted a guaranteed $750,000 to finish out the year. They didn't want to pay. I understand they want Luck and Moore gives them the best chance to acheive that goal. It's still a travesty of what has happened to this once proud organization.

yea, not pretty when your fans hope you continue to loose to improve the draft position. Week 5 and there is no hope is a terrible way to watch a football season.

[Gutter]

yeah probally would have won a couple superbowls if they had held on to him... :innocent:

well....the guy IS in the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame. That's gotta carry some weight right? right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Jewish_Sports_Hall_of_Fame_and_Museum

[Earlshog]

yea, not pretty when your fans hope you continue to loose to improve the draft position. Week 5 and there is no hope is a terrible way to watch a football season.

well if they want to watch any home games they better show up at the stadium cause they won't be on TV, well except for the Jets game and the only reason that will sell out is cause its 75% Jet fans.

[Earlshog]

well....the guy IS in the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame. That's gotta carry some weight right? right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Jewish_Sports_Hall_of_Fame_and_Museum

any agents on that list?

[Snacks]

Yup David Garrard wanted a guaranteed $750,000 to finish out the year. They didn't want to pay. I understand they want Luck and Moore gives them the best chance to acheive that goal. It's still a travesty of what has happened to this once proud organization.

Garrard isnt that good thats why he was cut and hasnt been signed even though hes only 33. He had 1 decent year when he threw for 18 tds and 3 ints. His career avgs as a starter are garbage. from 2006-2010 thats 5 years as a starter he avg 16 tds a year, 10 ints, 2800 yards.

[Earlshog]

Garrard isnt that good thats why he was cut and hasnt been signed even though hes only 33. He had 1 decent year when he threw for 18 tds and 3 ints. His career avgs as a starter are garbage. from 2006-2010 thats 5 years as a starter he avg 16 tds a year, 10 ints, 2800 yards.

He was cut cause Jax didn't want to pay him.

Tom Brady he is not, he is however light years ahead of Moore and Rosenfeld.

[Snacks]

He was cut cause Jax didn't want to pay him.

Tom Brady he is not, he is however light years ahead of Moore and Rosenfeld.

They didnt want to pay him b/c he is shit. They drafted a QB in the 1st round b/c he is shit and wanted to replace him sooner then later b/c they were going nowhere fast with him! Did you see him this preseason? He looked like a fat nose guard playing QB!

Miami isnt going to win anything this year so why bring in someone nobody wants? At least Sage has been there before has been good when given a chance to start. When he started in Houston he was really good and thats why Minn traded for him to make him their starter and paid him $4 million a year problem was Favre decided to un-retire for the 10th time and it screwed him.

[Earlshog]

They didnt want to pay him b/c he is shit. They drafted a QB in the 1st round b/c he is shit and wanted to replace him sooner then later b/c they were going nowhere fast with him! Did you see him this preseason? He looked like a fat nose guard playing QB!

Miami isnt going to win anything this year so why bring in someone nobody wants? At least Sage has been there before has been good when given a chance to start. When he started in Houston he was really good and thats why Minn traded for him to make him their starter and paid him $4 million a year problem was Favre decided to un-retire for the 10th time and it screwed him.

I didn't see him in the preseason, but I did see Sage and no way Sage is better than Garrard.

[Snoogans]

Garrard isnt that good thats why he was cut and hasnt been signed even though hes only 33. He had 1 decent year when he threw for 18 tds and 3 ints. His career avgs as a starter are garbage. from 2006-2010 thats 5 years as a starter he avg 16 tds a year, 10 ints, 2800 yards.

he isnt great but he is pretty good and that isnt why he was cut. He was cut cause jacksonville wanted to tank, drop the attendance low enough they can cry about it, also get a high pick, and then be able to move to Los Angeles.

[weekapaugjz]

well, you jerks got your wish.

espn, hank williams, jr. part ways (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066449/espn-hank-williams-jr-theme-song-return-monday-night-football)

best part of the article:
On his own website, Williams said he was the one who made the decision.

"After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision," he wrote. "By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run."

[Snoogans]

well, you jerks got your wish.

espn, hank williams, jr. part ways (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066449/espn-hank-williams-jr-theme-song-return-monday-night-football)

best part of the article:

i love that. how did they ruin his first amendment right? They are an employer, not the government. You arent going to jail, no one violated anything.


Well, maybe one of those rowdy friends violated his own sister. But aside from that, FUCK OFF. I hope your rowdy friends die in a fire

[JimBeam]

I'm hating the fact that I'm rooting against Andrew Luck and hope that he fails.

It's all because of these idiots that are saying he can't miss.

That idiot Greenberg this morning was saying if he gets drafted by the Colts he's gonna press Manning for the job in that Manning might have to " look over his shoulder and wonder ".

[Snoogans]

I'm hating the fact that I'm rooting against Andrew Luck and hope that he fails.

It's all because of these idiots that are saying he can't miss.

That idiot Greenberg this morning was saying if he gets drafted by the Colts he's gonna press Manning for the job in that Manning might have to " look over his shoulder and wonder ".

part of me early this year wsa rooting for the giants to be terrible so they could get a high enough pick to draft Justin Blackmon



and duh, manning cant even look over his shoulder, his neck is fused.

[Snacks]

i love that. how did they ruin his first amendment right? They are an employer, not the government. You arent going to jail, no one violated anything.


Well, maybe one of those rowdy friends violated his own sister. But aside from that, FUCK OFF. I hope your rowdy friends die in a fire

Fuck that racist piece of shit. He has every right to say what he wants but the way he said it you can tell it was out of hate and race nothing less!

[weekapaugjz]

part of me early this year wsa rooting for the giants to be terrible so they could get a high enough pick to draft Justin Blackmon.

i'll watch any ok state game just to watch him play. he's fucking sick.

[TripleSkeet]

i love that. how did they ruin his first amendment right? They are an employer, not the government. You arent going to jail, no one violated anything.


Well, maybe one of those rowdy friends violated his own sister. But aside from that, FUCK OFF. I hope your rowdy friends die in a fire

I bet you think youre free now huh? Am I the only one that remembers the year the replaced him with different acts every week? I remember Boys 2 Men did one week. That was the most horrendous shit I ever saw. Way worse then any Hank Williams opener.

[Snoogans]

I bet you think youre free now huh? Am I the only one that remembers the year the replaced him with different acts every week? I remember Boys 2 Men did one week. That was the most horrendous shit I ever saw. Way worse then any Hank Williams opener.

i actually do remember that, and it was terrible. the best part is, i work til like 9 on monday nights. I dont even hear the stupid intro

[cougarjake13]

yeah probally would have won a couple superbowls if they had held on to him... :innocent:

dont think he was saying that but he might have been better then the injured chads and company

[DJEvelEd]

Does anyone remember what the music was before 1991? Was it always "Heavy Action"?

Anyone surprised Williams don't like the coloreds? I guess he won't be accepting any invitations to the White House anytime soon.

[PapaBear]

I think it was just their standard theme song. I don't think they had anything like what Williams did before the theme played.

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[epo]

Does anyone remember what the music was before 1991? Was it always "Heavy Action"?

Anyone surprised Williams don't like the coloreds? I guess he won't be accepting any invitations to the White House anytime soon.

Williams' comments & ESPN's decision are the ultimate exhibit of the greatness of our democracy & capitalism.

[Dude!]

Williams' comments & ESPN's decision are the ultimate exhibit of the greatness of our democracy & capitalism.

i am routing for the Brewers
to win the world series

'cause then in one year
your state will have both
the super bowl and world series champs
to go along with the
best governor in the country

[Judge Smails]

Does anyone remember what the music was before 1991? Was it always "Heavy Action"?

Dig this groovy tune

http://<IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xwnbg13Yt80" frameBorder=0 width=420 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xwnbg13Yt80" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Al Davis dead.

[spoon]

Al Davis dead.

sounds like a threat!

did you kill him this morning!?

[hanso]

Al Davis dead.

sounds like a threat!

Did you kill him this morning!?

Mission accomplished let the winning begin.

[Snacks]

The Eagles are getting embarrassed again, 21-7 with 2 mins left before half time! This team is terrible. They should have waited to sign Vick, 3 INTS already!

[spoon]

The Eagles are getting embarrassed again, 21-7 with 2 mins left before half time! This team is terrible. They should have waited to sign Vick, 3 INTS already!

Yah against what amounts to arguably the worst D in the league too. I never believed in the guy to be a qb. I still wouldn't shy away from more of a slash or wr role for the guy moving forward. In reality, put Kafka behind center and use Vick in another way. It won't happen, but the guy is an athlete, not a qb. Use him in space, not in the pocket.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Pink socks, giants? Really, pink socks. If the post has any balls it's an easy headline for either team.

[Snoogans]

Pink socks, giants? Really, pink socks. If the post has any balls it's an easy headline for either team.

yea, how terrible they would wear something to try to raise money for breast cancer

[Dan 'Hampton]

Does it need to be for a month?
I'd venture breast cancer awareness is the most publicized and supported cause in the country.

[Snoogans]

Does it need to be for a month?
I'd venture breast cancer awareness is the most publicized and supported cause in the country.

you think the giants decided that? Talk to roger goodell

[Dan 'Hampton]

Cruz pinksocked seatle secondary on that catch.

[Dan 'Hampton]

you think the giants decided that? Talk to roger goodell


They seem to be the most pinksocked team on tv today. Calm down

[Snacks]

Does it need to be for a month?
I'd venture breast cancer awareness is the most publicized and supported cause in the country.

yet its not even the biggest killer among the cancers! Lung cancer is and colon cancer are higher!

Breast cancer has 1/4 the yearly deaths as Lung yet has more then 2 1/2 time the research and funding. I guess the argument would be that the reason lung cancer is so high is smoking which is true. But then why does breast cancer get more then 2 1/4 times the amount of funding then colon cancer? Answer is easy because men get Colon cancer more often! :thumbdown:

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdextra/2010/09/top_10_cancer_killers.html

[A.J.]

Yeah, but what would you rather look at? A pair of tits, or a pair of lungs? Or a colon?

[spoon]

Yeah, but what would you rather look at? A pair of tits, or a pair of lungs? Or a colon?

ha! you just asked the WRONG guy on the WRONG board!

[spoon]

oh and eagles, ooof!

[disneyspy]

thanks giants,you just killed our entire survival league

[Rhah]

fuck the giants. I am never betting on a New York team ever. Your teams fucking suck New York and Philly. Eat it.

[spoon]

fuck the giants. I am never betting on a New York team ever. Your teams fucking suck New York and Philly. Eat it.

Says the guy from Cutlerland! HA!

[A.J.]

Dear God. The Skins really COULD win the NFC East.

:ohmy:

[Snacks]

Yeah, but what would you rather look at? A pair of tits, or a pair of lungs? Or a colon?

Once their removed you can always get some fake ones! :innocent:

ha! you just asked the WRONG guy on the WRONG board!

WTF does that mean?:furious:

[spoon]

Dear God. The Skins really COULD win the NFC East.

:ohmy:

I still can't take this seriously, but man it's not looking so crazy of late.

[spoon]

WTF does that mean?:furious:

HA! :wink:

[Snacks]

HA! :wink:

Im seriously confused by this!

[spoon]

it was a gay joke you dummy

rf.net has been ripped like this for years, now I just added a little snacks to the recipe

box of colon blow anyone?

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[sailor]

love how the raiders are building upon the gains they made last year. i'm not silly enough to think of them as great, but they've got as much chance as anyone, er san diego, in the afc west.

fucking indy, couldn't hold that 24-14 lead. there goes my eliminator season.

[Snacks]

it was a gay joke you dummy

rf.net has been ripped like this for years, now I just added a little snacks to the recipe

box of colon blow anyone?

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Oh I didnt get the gay joke, now if you said Im not in to big ones then that would have made sense!

[spoon]

I believe Seattle took out ~ 70% of all yahoo survivor players!

[spoon]

How the fuck did Minny win any game where their qb only completed 10 fucking catches the whole game? I don't care who you have at rb, that's stack the fucking box time and you win easy. Seriously, 5 completions a half, 2.5 per quarter!

Oh and Phil Simms is AWFUL! No matter, first-ballot HOF Mangold is back so this game is a gimme.

[Snacks]

How the fuck did Minny win any game where their qb only completed 10 fucking catches the whole game? I don't care who you have at rb, that's stack the fucking box time and you win easy. Seriously, 5 completions a half, 2.5 per quarter!

Oh and Phil Simms is AWFUL! No matter, first-ballot HOF Mangold is back so this game is a gimme.

I cant stand him, he is terrible!

[disneyspy]

i feel like phil simms is reading the stats on the tv to me

[disneyspy]

Its Tebow Time!

[Snacks]

how bad is Sanchez? He currently has 70 yards passing against one of the worst defenses in the league.

[spoon]

how bad is Sanchez? He currently has 70 yards passing against one of the worst defenses in the league.

bad?

[spoon]

yet how are they even in this fucking game?

[spoon]

Dammit! Chargers are up against God now it seems!

[disneyspy]

Dammit! Chargers are up against God now it seems!

just the christian god

[spoon]

good point

Rivers is Hindu I hope!

[spoon]

then again, I'm pretty sure Norv is proof there is no God

[spoon]

wow, 9 pts on the button

[Tenbatsuzen]

I for one am looking forward to the Greg McElroy era.

[spoon]

I for one am looking forward to the Greg McElroy era.

I THINK you're serious, and you should be.

I liked him in the preseason and into the future versus sanchez's ability. Yet another shit qb out of USC. Go get Palmer if you can?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I THINK you're serious, and you should be.

I liked him in the preseason and into the future versus sanchez's ability. Yet another shit qb out of USC. Go get Palmer if you can?

two things:

1) Sanchez is not showing the growth he should be to be an NFL QB. He isn't a horrible QB, but he's not a great QB. I don't know why Sanchez, when he had three targets in Keller, Holmes, and Plax, isn't getting it done. Is an an issue with Schottenheimer? Is it all on Sanchez? I don't know. But there growth curve is not there.

So-so QBs can get by on a team when there's a good D or other weapons to back them up. I think that's why Sanchez wasn't so exposed last year because the D was so good.

Now the D isnt that good, Schottenheimer runs a shit offense, and there's a lot of failings here.

2) I also liked what I saw in McElroy in the preseason, but I also know it was preseason and McElroy was mainly playing against second team defenses. So you can't use that small sample size to say "yay McElroy" when he also made some dumbass mistakes (like throwing past the line of scrimmage)

[spoon]

I'm far from screaming any jet qb's praises, much less some kid who never took a reg season snap. What I do know is Sanchez is atrocious and his future looks shitty. I'm sure he'll have some moments over time, but more than have my doubts he'll be a successful NFL qb outside of managing a game. Put the game on him, and be ready to be let down.

Who is the last Jet qb anyone could surely get behind? Pennington, Vinny, Boomer? To me the last true Jet qb I respect is Ken O'Brien.

[Kevin]

I'm far from screaming any jet qb's praises, much less some kid who never took a reg season snap. What I do know is Sanchez is atrocious and his future looks shitty. I'm sure he'll have some moments over time, but more than have my doubts he'll be a successful NFL qb outside of managing a game. Put the game on him, and be ready to be let down.

Who is the last Jet qb anyone could surely get behind? Pennington, Vinny, Boomer? To me the last true Jet qb I respect is Ken O'Brien.

If Pennington had Sanchez arm strength which isn't huge, he would have been an elite qb. Id prob go Vinny.

[hanso]

Watch out for Bin Ben in his Frankenstein boot? Maybe it helps him plant his foot.

[Kevin]

Watch out for Bin Ben in his Frankenstein boot? Maybe it helps him plant his foot.

He could also club the women he rapes with it.

[TjM]

HA!

Fuck you you fucking whiny bitch cunts Jets fans.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm far from screaming any jet qb's praises, much less some kid who never took a reg season snap. What I do know is Sanchez is atrocious and his future looks shitty. I'm sure he'll have some moments over time, but more than have my doubts he'll be a successful NFL qb outside of managing a game. Put the game on him, and be ready to be let down.

Who is the last Jet qb anyone could surely get behind? Pennington, Vinny, Boomer? To me the last true Jet qb I respect is Ken O'Brien.

Towards the end for Pennington, a lot of Jets fans in forums turned on him for Clemens of all people (!!) -- because Jets fans have seen what McElroy can do - or at least what they THINK he can do - I can see the same happening for Sanchez if this continues.

That said, I'm not going to bury Sanchez completely unless he fails under a new OC. I think the issues for the Jets offense on a whole stem from Schottenheimer.

People wanted him gone last year. I could see it happening mid-season, possibly, if this shit continues.

[Snoogans]

two things:

1) Sanchez is not showing the growth he should be to be an NFL QB. He isn't a horrible QB, but he's not a great QB. I don't know why Sanchez, when he had three targets in Keller, Holmes, and Plax, isn't getting it done. Is an an issue with Schottenheimer? Is it all on Sanchez? I don't know. But there growth curve is not there.

So-so QBs can get by on a team when there's a good D or other weapons to back them up. I think that's why Sanchez wasn't so exposed last year because the D was so good.

Now the D isnt that good, Schottenheimer runs a shit offense, and there's a lot of failings here.

2) I also liked what I saw in McElroy in the preseason, but I also know it was preseason and McElroy was mainly playing against second team defenses. So you can't use that small sample size to say "yay McElroy" when he also made some dumbass mistakes (like throwing past the line of scrimmage)

im sorry , but yes, sanchez IS a horrible QB

[Tenbatsuzen]

im sorry , but yes, sanchez IS a horrible QB

No. Ryan Leaf, that's a horrible QB. JaMarcus Russell, that's a horrible QB.

Phil Simms had one less INT than TDs until AFTER he won the Super Bowl in 1986. His completion percentage was 56%. By that mindset, is Phil Simms a horrible QB too?

I'm not trying to be a dick, but it seems in your mind, you're either awesome or horrible with no grey in between. Sanchez isn't horrible, but he's not awesome. No one is screaming he's a bust.

[Snoogans]

No. Ryan Leaf, that's a horrible QB. JaMarcus Russell, that's a horrible QB.

Phil Simms had one less INT than TDs until AFTER he won the Super Bowl in 1986. His completion percentage was 56%. By that mindset, is Phil Simms a horrible QB too?

I'm not trying to be a dick, but it seems in your mind, you're either awesome or horrible with no grey in between. Sanchez isn't horrible, but he's not awesome. No one is screaming he's a bust.

put it this way. he makes horrible decisions. to me, that makes a horrible QB. He has physical talent, and thats why he makes plays. but then he does alot of dumb shit.

And blame schott all you want, and im sure he isnt doin a great job. But im also sure he didnt call for sanchez to stand behind perfect protection and throw balls right to DBs either

[Tenbatsuzen]

put it this way. he makes horrible decisions. to me, that makes a horrible QB. He has physical talent, and thats why he makes plays. but then he does alot of dumb shit.

And blame schott all you want, and im sure he isnt doin a great job. But im also sure he didnt call for sanchez to stand behind perfect protection and throw balls right to DBs either

Most quarterbacks do dumb shit like that. Even hall of famers do dumb shit like that. But if Sanchez doesn't get out of this plateau and I don't see him in a different system, I'm not sure if I can bury the guy. That's all I'm saying.

I've never said OMG SANCHEZ IS A HALL OF FAMER! I've always been in the camp that he's a developing QB. Since Day ONE I wanted the Jets to draft Flacco.

[Snoogans]

Most quarterbacks do dumb shit like that. Even hall of famers do dumb shit like that. But if Sanchez doesn't get out of this plateau and I don't see him in a different system, I'm not sure if I can bury the guy. That's all I'm saying.

I've never said OMG SANCHEZ IS A HALL OF FAMER! I've always been in the camp that he's a developing QB. Since Day ONE I wanted the Jets to draft Flacco.

thats true. you said it about nick mangold instead

[TripleSkeet]

How the fuck did Minny win any game where their qb only completed 10 fucking catches the whole game? I don't care who you have at rb, that's stack the fucking box time and you win easy. Seriously, 5 completions a half, 2.5 per quarter!

Oh and Phil Simms is AWFUL! No matter, first-ballot HOF Mangold is back so this game is a gimme.

LMAO They won in spite of McNabb.

[TripleSkeet]

thanks giants,you just killed our entire survival league

Not quite the ENTIRE league. :thumbup:

[spoon]

Not quite the ENTIRE league. :thumbup:

yah he forgot to add tenn and chicago

[epo]

Suck it Atlanta.

[spoon]

f'n wisconsin on fire!

[Dude!]

it's the 'Walker Effect'!

[epo]

it's the 'Walker Effect'!

We'll be firing him soon enough.

[KnoxHarrington]

It occurs to me now that I am about as rowdy right now as I am on a usual Monday night.

[weekapaugjz]

fred jackson is the fucking man.

[Snoogans]

fred jackson is the fucking man.

please, lets not act like he is playin against a defense

[Snoogans]

or an offense

[weekapaugjz]

please, lets not act like he is playin against a defense

better than the bills D.

[Kevin]

3rd and 10 and you are killing them with the pass and you run a goddamn draw.

Coughlin is the fucking worst.

[sailor]

Pass on 3rd and goal from the one seems odd

[cougarjake13]

3rd and 10 and you are killing them with the pass and you run a goddamn draw.

Coughlin is the fucking worst.

much like last week when we were running the ball well on last drive and he tried to throw to cruz

[weekapaugjz]

i'm hoping for an exploding stadium tonight. fuck both these teams.

[cougarjake13]

i'm hoping for an exploding stadium tonight. fuck both these teams.

or a tie with no one dying

[spoon]

i'm hoping for an exploding stadium tonight. fuck both these teams.

Can we get tickets for Snacks and Tenbats too!? Ok, perhaps just Tenbats.

[weekapaugjz]

or a tie with no one dying

where's the fun in that? plus we'd have 60K+ fewer jets fans around. that should be a plus in everyone's book.

[weekapaugjz]

Can we get tickets for Snacks and Tenbats too!? Ok, perhaps just Tenbats.

one can dream...

[weekapaugjz]

i'd rather have hank than this fucking dipshit fireman. ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu espn.

[weekapaugjz]

the sanchize is starting off strong.

[spoon]

he's such an ass

thank GOD Versus is showing the Avs game against the Leafs right now before I go to my first game myself

i'm not looking forward to skating tonight after a long time off

i am psyched to play though as it's been too long and watching the games has me itching to play

[Kevin]

This game has the makings of the worst game in NFL History.

Both these QBs, Offenses, TEAMS are terrible.