2011-12 NFL Season

[Snoogans]

I feel the same way, this is the NFL. You in a fucking grown up league, you can't compete then tough shit. Get better. I'm all for taking it easy from Pop Warner all the way through college, but once you reach the pros I don't care if your team loses 100-0 it's your fault for sucking.

i agree. College is different cause the monster talent differences, but this is the fuckin pros. If you dont have equal talent its cause you are doing a bad job. So if you get fuckin embarrassed cause of that, that shits on you

[Snacks]

Really? I guess you never watched the 2000 Rams. Where they lost their kicker and rather then have someone else try to kick they just went for 2 point conversions the whole game. And I loved that team.

Personally I love when a team runs up the score. Fuck that, show no mercy.

once again the Rams pulled warner out of game. Brady never got pulled and he was throwing bombs all over the fucking place even in the 4th q once the game was over.

I have no problem when teams run up the score either. my point was that most teams dont and if they did it was 1 game here or there. The Pats did it in every game that they could. So yes their stats got padded when teams gave up and when others wouldnt be doing shit like that.

[Snacks]

I feel the same way, this is the NFL. You in a fucking grown up league, you can't compete then tough shit. Get better. I'm all for taking it easy from Pop Warner all the way through college, but once you reach the pros I don't care if your team loses 100-0 it's your fault for sucking.

Run it up in pop warner too. Teach these kids today what it feels like to get their ass beat. A game is a game is a game, right? Make them all want to quit no matter the age!

[underdog]

once again the Rams pulled warner out of game. Brady never got pulled and he was throwing bombs all over the fucking place even in the 4th q once the game was over.

I have no problem when teams run up the score either. my point was that most teams dont and if they did it was 1 game here or there. The Pats did it in every game that they could. So yes their stats got padded when teams gave up and when others wouldnt be doing shit like that.

We get it. You hate the Patriots.

[underdog]

Run it up in pop warner too. Teach these kids today what it feels like to get their ass beat. A game is a game is a game, right? Make them all want to quit no matter the age!

Exactly. Pop warner players and professional football players are exactly the same.

[Snacks]

Exactly. Pop warner players and professional football players are exactly the same.

Teach them young. I coached baseball if you dont want to get beat make plays. I hate the 15 run rule. How do you learn if you cant handle losing! Toughen up.

[underdog]

Teach them young. I coached baseball if you dont want to get beat make plays. I hate the 15 run rule. How do you learn if you cant handle losing! Toughen up.

Ugh.

The reason there is a rule is because of the difference in talent between teams. If there were no mercy rule, some games would almost never end.

[Justice4all]

It meant so little to them that the next day they recorded an awful music video to tell the rest of the league they were going to win the Super Bowl anyway & no one was stopping them. In fact, it was probably the preparation for that video shoot that had them distracted & cost them the game. That & the back-up QB.

Just saying.

You mean this little trip down video memory lane?

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[Snacks]

Ugh.

The reason there is a rule is because of the difference in talent between teams. If there were no mercy rule, some games would almost never end.

No the rule is in place to not make kids cry and get discouraged. Every team has kids the same age. Some as in everything are better then others. But 1 town doesnt have all stars at 8 and the other town the entire team is shit! You learn by playing. All that rule does it teach you how to quit when things are tough.

[TheGameHHH]

No the rule is in place to not make kids cry and get discouraged. Every team has kids the same age. Some as in everything are better then others. But 1 town doesnt have all stars at 8 and the other town the entire team is shit! You learn by playing. All that rule does it teach you how to quit when things are tough.

are you being sarcastic or is this really your terribly simple-minded point of view?

[Snacks]

You mean this little trip down video memory lane?

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I cant believe no team in any sport hasnt done something similar. You got to love the confidence!

[Snacks]

are you being sarcastic or is this really your terribly simple-minded point of view?

for the most part Im being serious. What good comes out of quiting? At any age? Teaches you nothing except how to give up when times are tough.

[Justice4all]

Holy shit, now Tom's really gonna have a problem with you! That's just crazy talk!

Considering the source of that statement....that would be like trying to go into a mental hospital and make sense of the patients gibberish.

[Justice4all]

...and fucks whores on the dining room table and you don't find out about it till a year later and he never flushes the damn toilet and...

Oh, sorry about that...I was having a flashback.



I know this might seem gay (MIGHT?) but it's in honor of Crippler
Kudos on another Crippler Classic. Thanks for the laughs! (Douche)


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[Justice4all]

I feel the same way, this is the NFL. You in a fucking grown up league, you can't compete then tough shit. Get better. I'm all for taking it easy from Pop Warner all the way through college, but once you reach the pros I don't care if your team loses 100-0 it's your fault for sucking.


Exactly....which is in the same breath I get pissed when I hear stories about kids all get trophies for just showing up because 'everyone is a winner!'

Just like that pop warner team this year that was banned from playing in the playoffs because they were TOO good and no one could beat them. Way to show kids that if you don't win you have to WORK at it!

[Snacks]

Let me just clarify what Im saying. I dont think you should do everything to score when its pop warner or pee wee football. I just dont think you should quit. I think you should play it out the full 6 or 7 innings (whatever your league plays) and finish the game. Now if Im the coach of the other team Im nothing throwing bombs or stealing bases to embarrass the kids. I think you learn by completing the game!

[underdog]

Let me just clarify what Im saying. I dont think you should do everything to score when its pop warner or pee wee football. I just dont think you should quit. I think you should play it out the full 6 or 7 innings (whatever your league plays) and finish the game. Now if Im the coach of the other team Im nothing throwing bombs or stealing bases to embarrass the kids. I think you learn by completing the game!

Football doesn't have innings. That's baseball.

[Snacks]

Football doesn't have innings. That's baseball.

I know that I was using both situations in the argument. maybe I should have added little league to make it more clear for you!

[Snacks]

There is another Thursday night game tomorrow. I think they will be every Thursday for the rest of the year?!

Anyway I need to start 3 WRs and have tons of injuries and question marks.

Who would you start.

Kenny Brit - coming back from inj
Santana Moss
Brandon Marshall coming back from inj
Michael Crabtree
Vincent Jackson -is out
Sydney Rice

I want to take a chance with Brit or Marshall but Brit is playing Thursday night and need to make a decision by tomorrow.

[weekapaugjz]

There is another Thursday night game tomorrow. I think they will be every Thursday for the rest of the year?!

Anyway I need to start 3 WRs and have tons of injuries and question marks.

Who would you start.

Kenny Brit - coming back from inj
Santana Moss
Brandon Marshall coming back from inj
Michael Crabtree
Vincent Jackson -is out
Sydney Rice

I want to take a chance with Brit or Marshall but Brit is playing Thursday night and need to make a decision by tomorrow.

make up your own mind. no one cares about your shitty team.

[epo]

make up your own mind. no one cares about your shitty team.

Don't worry, I just reported his shitty fantasy football post to the mods as spam.

And for the record, with those receivers he's screwed.

[Justice4all]

Dont go blowing snoogans cock because we all know you back down to him after talking shit about him every chance you get. What ass are you kicking? Please Tom dont embarrass yourself. And please Tom lets not bring up my current situations. Because you couldnt win it EVER. Past, present and future you have no chance or anything over me. Dont get involved in something that will make you look worse then you usually do and cry to my cousin about it after the fact for protection or someone who you think will agree with you when that person never does!

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wow you are totally clueless!
That's all I will continue on this subject. Only football from now on. You want more...make a thread about.

[Snoogans]

There is another Thursday night game tomorrow. I think they will be every Thursday for the rest of the year?!

Anyway I need to start 3 WRs and have tons of injuries and question marks.

Who would you start.

Kenny Brit - coming back from inj
Santana Moss
Brandon Marshall coming back from inj
Michael Crabtree
Vincent Jackson -is out
Sydney Rice

I want to take a chance with Brit or Marshall but Brit is playing Thursday night and need to make a decision by tomorrow.

you should start Mark Duper

[Snacks]

you should start Mark Duper

Duper was only a name because Marino made him one!

But if Marino was playing I would start both Duper and Clayton!

[Snoogans]

Duper was only a name because Marino made him one!

But if Marino was playing I would start both Duper and Clayton!

what about Irvin Friar?

[Crippler]

It was all about Jimmy Cefalo!

[Snoogans]

are you starting the 2nd greatest QB of all time, Jay Fiedler?

[spoon]

Come on man, running up the score when you clearly have a game locked up is just not classy. I always get a kick out of the egos that love to act like it's the best thing to do bc it's the PROS man, but it's simply not the right move. I play fucking men's beer league hockey and if anyone even tried that shit on our team we'd lay some mother fuckers out.

I don't think anyone wants to institute some rules about it, but run it up at your own risk. In every sport there are ways to continue playing hard without running it up. Use your second team, work on your lesser side of the ball or work pitches you normal don't have great control of, learn to pitch to contact, dump the puck deep, work the passing game (hockey not nfl) and take the slapper out of the game (hockey again). Sure some teams will be so off they'll continue to fall behind, but teams and their coaches will realize if it's bc the team is running it up or not pretty easily.

I just don't see the need or desire to prove you can score 60 on the Panthers (NFL) or win by 6 on the Islanders this year. Work on weaknesses and other factors of your game once a game is all but over, not just rub it in and ask for issues and potential injuries. That's not even touching on the code players in the same league I THINK should have with each other. Perhaps I'm just not the competitor the rest of you are, yet I never let my teams run it up and most wouldn't anyway. Those I usually have to pull back with are the immature kids with egos the size of a Crippler bowel movement after Thanksgiving. I just don't see what someone gets out of embarrassing someone versus a solid win.

[TripleSkeet]

Come on man, running up the score when you clearly have a game locked up is just not classy. I always get a kick out of the egos that love to act like it's the best thing to do bc it's the PROS man, but it's simply not the right move. I play fucking men's beer league hockey and if anyone even tried that shit on our team we'd lay some mother fuckers out.

I don't think anyone wants to institute some rules about it, but run it up at your own risk. In every sport there are ways to continue playing hard without running it up. Use your second team, work on your lesser side of the ball or work pitches you normal don't have great control of, learn to pitch to contact, dump the puck deep, work the passing game (hockey not nfl) and take the slapper out of the game (hockey again). Sure some teams will be so off they'll continue to fall behind, but teams and their coaches will realize if it's bc the team is running it up or not pretty easily.

I just don't see the need or desire to prove you can score 60 on the Panthers (NFL) or win by 6 on the Islanders this year. Work on weaknesses and other factors of your game once a game is all but over, not just rub it in and ask for issues and potential injuries. That's not even touching on the code players in the same league I THINK should have with each other. Perhaps I'm just not the competitor the rest of you are, yet I never let my teams run it up and most wouldn't anyway. Those I usually have to pull back with are the immature kids with egos the size of a Crippler bowel movement after Thanksgiving. I just don't see what someone gets out of embarrassing someone versus a solid win.

As a grown man that has played football and baseball I would be more insulted if I felt a team was letting up out of pity then I would if they won by 100. Fuck that. The goal of the game is to score as much as yopu can and win. If you dont like it either get better so you can do something about it or quit the game. But I honestly feel people that whine about getting the score run up on them are pussies.

[Snacks]

As a grown man that has played football and baseball I would be more insulted if I felt a team was letting up out of pity then I would if they won by 100. Fuck that. The goal of the game is to score as much as yopu can and win. If you dont like it either get better so you can do something about it or quit the game. But I honestly feel people that whine about getting the score run up on them are pussies.

I see both sides. But you never quit! I also say if Im on the losing end and a team is running up the score go ahead and hurt them. If you cant be them dont quit but put pain on the mother fuckers trying to embarrass you. Maybe then they will sit the starters and work on bench players getting playing time and learning the game.

[TripleSkeet]

I see both sides. But you never quit! I also say if Im on the losing end and a team is running up the score go ahead and hurt them. If you cant be them dont quit but put pain on the mother fuckers trying to embarrass you. Maybe then they will sit the starters and work on bench players getting playing time and learning the game.

I have no problem with that. If they are going to leave their starting QB in the game as long as the hits are clean Ive got no problem with the defense teeing off on the guy. I mean, when your down 30 points in the 4th why not just send the house every play? Blitz 3 guys. Even if you get beat deep, at that point, who cares?

By the way, we are going to see an example of this Sunday night when the Eagles massacre Dallas. Hey Spy, sig bet on the game?

[Earlshog]

Come on man, running up the score when you clearly have a game locked up is just not classy. I always get a kick out of the egos that love to act like it's the best thing to do bc it's the PROS man, but it's simply not the right move. I play fucking men's beer league hockey and if anyone even tried that shit on our team we'd lay some mother fuckers out.

I don't think anyone wants to institute some rules about it, but run it up at your own risk. In every sport there are ways to continue playing hard without running it up. Use your second team, work on your lesser side of the ball or work pitches you normal don't have great control of, learn to pitch to contact, dump the puck deep, work the passing game (hockey not nfl) and take the slapper out of the game (hockey again). Sure some teams will be so off they'll continue to fall behind, but teams and their coaches will realize if it's bc the team is running it up or not pretty easily.

I just don't see the need or desire to prove you can score 60 on the Panthers (NFL) or win by 6 on the Islanders this year. Work on weaknesses and other factors of your game once a game is all but over, not just rub it in and ask for issues and potential injuries. That's not even touching on the code players in the same league I THINK should have with each other. Perhaps I'm just not the competitor the rest of you are, yet I never let my teams run it up and most wouldn't anyway. Those I usually have to pull back with are the immature kids with egos the size of a Crippler bowel movement after Thanksgiving. I just don't see what someone gets out of embarrassing someone versus a solid win.

See your problem is you have integrity. I mean you tagged out your own teammate at home plate (10 years and 30lbs ago I would have went for the takeout slide, ha-ha).

If your team is winning 12 - 2 in the 9th and you hit a three run homer it's all in the game. If your team is winning 12 - 2 and in the ninth and you steal second the next pitch is in the batters ribs.

[JimBeam]

Come on man, running up the score when you clearly have a game locked up is just not classy. I always get a kick out of the egos that love to act like it's the best thing to do bc it's the PROS man, but it's simply not the right move. I play fucking men's beer league hockey and if anyone even tried that shit on our team we'd lay some mother fuckers out.

I don't think anyone wants to institute some rules about it, but run it up at your own risk. In every sport there are ways to continue playing hard without running it up. Use your second team, work on your lesser side of the ball or work pitches you normal don't have great control of, learn to pitch to contact, dump the puck deep, work the passing game (hockey not nfl) and take the slapper out of the game (hockey again). Sure some teams will be so off they'll continue to fall behind, but teams and their coaches will realize if it's bc the team is running it up or not pretty easily.

I just don't see the need or desire to prove you can score 60 on the Panthers (NFL) or win by 6 on the Islanders this year. Work on weaknesses and other factors of your game once a game is all but over, not just rub it in and ask for issues and potential injuries. That's not even touching on the code players in the same league I THINK should have with each other. Perhaps I'm just not the competitor the rest of you are, yet I never let my teams run it up and most wouldn't anyway. Those I usually have to pull back with are the immature kids with egos the size of a Crippler bowel movement after Thanksgiving. I just don't see what someone gets out of embarrassing someone versus a solid win.

But I don't see why you should all of sudden have to start doing things you don't normally do just because they can't keep up.

You then become a coach on their team and use your players to make them better.

I agree that subs should be in at this point but to start doing things you wouldn't normally do is silly.

Another point is why is it the winning team that has to lie down and play dead while the team getting killed can continue to try and make the game respectable ?

If you're asking me to call off the dogs than you better be running the ball ever play just like I am so we can end the game quicker.

I'm not gonna run a 3 and out so you can come on the field and use your whole playbook trying to score.

[TripleSkeet]

See your problem is you have integrity. I mean you tagged out your own teammate at home plate (10 years and 30lbs ago I would have went for the takeout slide, ha-ha).

If your team is winning 12 - 2 in the 9th and you hit a three run homer it's all in the game. If your team is winning 12 - 2 and in the ninth and you steal second the next pitch is in the batters ribs.

Baseball is a little different. Because yea if you just keep hitting the ball and running up the score nobody says anything to you.

But in football if you just keep running the ball you not only put your RB in jeopardy because they know whats coming, but you give the other team a chance to get back in the game. In pro sports giving the other team a chance, even a slight one, out of pity is unforgivable in my book.

[Earlshog]

Baseball is a little different. Because yea if you just keep hitting the ball and running up the score nobody says anything to you.

But in football if you just keep running the ball you not only put your RB in jeopardy because they know whats coming, but you give the other team a chance to get back in the game. In pro sports giving the other team a chance, even a slight one, out of pity is unforgivable in my book.

Pro is one thing, these are the best of the best. But should Sam Wyche line up and kick a field goal as time expires up 58 - 20?

Let's use high school for example if you are winning 49 - 0 at halftime. Should you have the JV team on the field for the second half? My personal opinion is yes you should. Would that be considered pity?

[TripleSkeet]

Pro is one thing, these are the best of the best. But should Sam Wyche line up and kick a field goal as time expires up 58 - 20?

Let's use high school for example if you are winning 49 - 0 at halftime. Should you have the JV team on the field for the second half? My personal opinion is yes you should. Would that be considered pity?

For the first example thats unnecessary. Because the game is won and a kneel down ends it. Now say say theres 4 minutes left, 4th and 10 and Green Bay is on Detroits 20. They are up 48-10. Do they kick the field goal? Yes they should. Why? Because you cant punt it, going for it is stupid, you play the game the way its supposed to be played.

As far as high school goes I view that a little bit differently. I dont mind seeing them oputting the backups in because, just as in college, those kids bust their ass every week in practice, without pay, and hardly get a chance to play. So you throw them a bone.

I dont even have a problem with a pro team putting in some reserves when his team is up alot, I just dont like when the deviate from the way the game should be played. Whens its 3rd and 6 you throw the ball and try for the first. You dont just run and punt because you feel bad, thats just lame to me.

[TjM]

once again the Rams pulled warner out of game. Brady never got pulled and he was throwing bombs all over the fucking place even in the 4th q once the game was over.

I have no problem when teams run up the score either. my point was that most teams dont and if they did it was 1 game here or there. The Pats did it in every game that they could. So yes their stats got padded when teams gave up and when others wouldnt be doing shit like that.

If you want to talk shit and act like your so fucking bad ass without winning shit. You damn sure better expect no mercy. I wish the Pats hung fucking 100 on those mouthbreathing ass holes.

Also the Pats have blown late game leads.

Belichick told them in the during a TO "I don't give a fuck what the score is we're playing 60"

He did that because his team needs to learn to play complete games and not layoff. Especially with the 1st seed there for the taking.

[TjM]

for the most part Im being serious. What good comes out of quiting? At any age? Teaches you nothing except how to give up when times are tough.

Like the Jets quit monday night. 4th and 2 right up the middle. BGE could have walked in. (IMO adding and easy FG is running it up. Giving the D a chance to stop you is respect)

[TjM]

In short fuck the Jets and the Tri-State area in general

[Snoogans]

See your problem is you have integrity. I mean you tagged out your own teammate at home plate (10 years and 30lbs ago I would have went for the takeout slide, ha-ha).

If your team is winning 12 - 2 in the 9th and you hit a three run homer it's all in the game. If your team is winning 12 - 2 and in the ninth and you steal second the next pitch is in the batters ribs.

this is a good point, but thats baseball. How do you do that in football? If you are out on the football field, you better be giving 100% or you are gonna get yourself hurt. There is no situations in football where you have 45 seconds to think hey if i steal this base they are gonna get killed. the game doesnt set up that way.

Sure you dont have to call passes and whatever if you are up by 35 in the 4th quarter but most teams dont, and any of that shit would fall back on the coaches, not the players. they are just doin what the coach is tellin them in football.

Well, except Peyton Manning. He legitimately is the one player since Marino who decided he was gonna run up scores.

[Snoogans]

Pro is one thing, these are the best of the best. But should Sam Wyche line up and kick a field goal as time expires up 58 - 20?

Let's use high school for example if you are winning 49 - 0 at halftime. Should you have the JV team on the field for the second half? My personal opinion is yes you should. Would that be considered pity?
we cant do that, we already said we dont think its right on lower levels where the talent gets so different. We are straight talkin the highest levels. even in college football its a dick move cause some of those teams just dont have the talent

but if you are in the pros and dont have the talent, thats a bad job by you, and you deserve to be exposed on that bad job

[spoon]

As a grown man that has played football and baseball I would be more insulted if I felt a team was letting up out of pity then I would if they won by 100. Fuck that. The goal of the game is to score as much as yopu can and win. If you dont like it either get better so you can do something about it or quit the game. But I honestly feel people that whine about getting the score run up on them are pussies.

The playing angle is moot, many of the people in this thread played including me. I guess it's how you view the GAME versus ego. I choose to go with the former. Being on both ends of this equation gives players like me more perspective then simply playing. When up and keeping on a team is just useless and you get shit for it. Unless you count the game getting out of hand and players fighting all over the field, ice or beanings galore. Being on the tail end of the ass kicking, and it very well could simply be bc of an off game...they fucking happen, it pisses you off to know end and you become out for blood bc it's simply disrespectful to poke at a wound when you clearly have the game dominated.

[spoon]

As a grown man that has played football and baseball I would be more insulted if I felt a team was letting up out of pity then I would if they won by 100. Fuck that. The goal of the game is to score as much as yopu can and win. If you dont like it either get better so you can do something about it or quit the game. But I honestly feel people that whine about getting the score run up on them are pussies.

I see both sides. But you never quit! I also say if Im on the losing end and a team is running up the score go ahead and hurt them. If you cant be them dont quit but put pain on the mother fuckers trying to embarrass you. Maybe then they will sit the starters and work on bench players getting playing time and learning the game.

Yes, grown men. :wallbash:

[spoon]

See your problem is you have integrity. I mean you tagged out your own teammate at home plate (10 years and 30lbs ago I would have went for the takeout slide, ha-ha).

If your team is winning 12 - 2 in the 9th and you hit a three run homer it's all in the game. If your team is winning 12 - 2 and in the ninth and you steal second the next pitch is in the batters ribs.

I'm glad it's not 10 years ago then!

[spoon]

But I don't see why you should all of sudden have to start doing things you don't normally do just because they can't keep up.

You then become a coach on their team and use your players to make them better.

I agree that subs should be in at this point but to start doing things you wouldn't normally do is silly.

Another point is why is it the winning team that has to lie down and play dead while the team getting killed can continue to try and make the game respectable ?

If you're asking me to call off the dogs than you better be running the ball ever play just like I am so we can end the game quicker.

I'm not gonna run a 3 and out so you can come on the field and use your whole playbook trying to score.

I agree on most of what you put here. However, I don't really mean do something you don't normally do that you wouldn't want to develop. I was more saying working an angle of the team's game that needs development or refining. Get some players more touches that need them. Rotate responsibility to lesser players and see how they respond for situations down the road/playoffs as insurance. There are ways to play hard and not run up the score on someone. That really isn't hard to understand. But I guess we aren't men if we don't fucking Bobby Bowden teams like UAB, Duke, Rice and the Citadel.

[spoon]

For the first example thats unnecessary. Because the game is won and a kneel down ends it. Now say say theres 4 minutes left, 4th and 10 and Green Bay is on Detroits 20. They are up 48-10. Do they kick the field goal? Yes they should. Why? Because you cant punt it, going for it is stupid, you play the game the way its supposed to be played.

As far as high school goes I view that a little bit differently. I dont mind seeing them oputting the backups in because, just as in college, those kids bust their ass every week in practice, without pay, and hardly get a chance to play. So you throw them a bone.

I dont even have a problem with a pro team putting in some reserves when his team is up alot, I just dont like when the deviate from the way the game should be played. Whens its 3rd and 6 you throw the ball and try for the first. You dont just run and punt because you feel bad, thats just lame to me.

Why don't you get it has nothing to do with "feeling bad" for an opponent versus having integrity and class, being above trying to make someone the fool when already down on the ground?

[TripleSkeet]

Why don't you get it has nothing to do with "feeling bad" for an opponent versus having integrity and class, being above trying to make someone the fool when already down on the ground?

Why dont you get its not fucking integrity, its pity youre showing. There is a set way to play the game. Some people change the way they play it according to score, others play it the same whether its 3-0 or 30-0. It doesnt mean you have less integrity because you play the game the way it is supposed to be played. Its got nothing to do with making someone look like a fool. Its playing a full game from start to finish, the way the game is supposed to be played.

You can say it shows more class and integrity to just keep running into a pile and punting the ball away so as not to embarrass youre opponent. I disagree. It would embarrass me even more if my team was getting shalacked and they started doing that to get the game over with. I took it as a sign of pity, and it would make me angry not happy to see it being done.

What kind of fucking athlete takes solace in knowing the other team stopped themselves from blowing you out because you couldnt stop them? Not somebody I would want on my team.

[TripleSkeet]

By the way, last nights Indy game was a perfect example that there are still fixed football games in the NFL. Nice to see.

[spoon]

Why dont you get its not fucking integrity, its pity youre showing. There is a set way to play the game. Some people change the way they play it according to score, others play it the same whether its 3-0 or 30-0. It doesnt mean you have less integrity because you play the game the way it is supposed to be played. Its got nothing to do with making someone look like a fool. Its playing a full game from start to finish, the way the game is supposed to be played.

You can say it shows more class and integrity to just keep running into a pile and punting the ball away so as not to embarrass youre opponent. I disagree. It would embarrass me even more if my team was getting shalacked and they started doing that to get the game over with. I took it as a sign of pity, and it would make me angry not happy to see it being done.

What kind of fucking athlete takes solace in knowing the other team stopped themselves from blowing you out because you couldnt stop them? Not somebody I would want on my team.

Bottom line is there is no argument you'll listen to bc you alone know how the game is supposed to be played. Sorry, you're wrong. Also, you think it only involves "running into a pile and punting the ball away". Yah, no. Not one person said this on the other side of the argument. This is just the bs hyperbole tactic of trying to make invalid points. If your ego is so huge and sensitive that you need to bury/embarrass people to make a win valid bc ur such a pro, good luck with that.

[spoon]

By the way, last nights Indy game was a perfect example that there are still fixed football games in the NFL. Nice to see.

didn't watch it live, what do you mean and give me some proof over the line being 3

[TripleSkeet]

didn't watch it live, what do you mean and give me some proof over the line being 3

What do you want betting slips?

[spoon]

so ur just pissed you bet indy and tenn covered on the last drive

basically ur upset and have no proof

wow that sounds familiar

[spoon]

What do you want betting slips?

come on skeet, you know exactly what I'm asking for

[TripleSkeet]

so ur just pissed you bet indy and tenn covered on the last drive

basically ur upset and have no proof

wow that sounds familiar

Actually I didnt bet at all. And Im not pissed, as a former bookie it always made me laugh when I saw coaching decisions and play calling that look to serve no other purpose then cover the spread. Thats why I said "Nice to see".

[TripleSkeet]

so ur just pissed you bet indy and tenn covered on the last drive

basically ur upset and have no proof

wow that sounds familiar

And I dont know what this is supposed to mean. "Have no proof, that sounds familiar". Am I supposed to know what youre talking about with this?

[spoon]

Actually I didnt bet at all. And Im not pissed, as a former bookie it always made me laugh when I saw coaching decisions and play calling that look to serve no other purpose then cover the spread. Thats why I said "Nice to see".

The Indy game, which I admit I didn't see much of, do you really believe it was fixed?

I'm really asking you for specific reasoning behind the claim bc I hear people who watch lines or bet often say this with nothing to back it up or even a theory for that matter. Just a bunch of pissy gamblers or people who always see a conspiracy.

What leads you to believe what you're saying?

[spoon]

And I dont know what this is supposed to mean. "Have no proof, that sounds familiar". Am I supposed to know what youre talking about with this?

the post above explains this

[Snacks]

The Indy game, which I admit I didn't see much of, do you really believe it was fixed?

I'm really asking you for specific reasoning behind the claim bc I hear people who watch lines or bet often say this with nothing to back it up or even a theory for that matter. Just a bunch of pissy gamblers or people who always see a conspiracy.

What leads you to believe what you're saying?

it wasnt fixed. in todays NFL and all the money involved and security it is almost impossible to fix a game. Not to mention there are too many places to bet so there is no bookie or group paying off a side. it wouldnt be worth it. If it was fixed it would be fixed because too much action was on 1 side and a bookmaker went to someone on that sides def and said "let them score". Tell me how and who would do that?

Even if I bet $1 million on a game what would I offer someone to fix the game? Not enough to make it worth it for both sides and unless you play off a QB not 1 other position could have enough impact to make it worth paying off a player because you would be throwing away money and that would be just as much of a gamble as would the bet itself!

Now if you paid an official off then maybe you could fix a game. But then again that would have nothing to do with monday night because Tenn still had to score as time ran out. No official could guarantee someone would score there.

Everyone was a bookie? It makes me laugh when people talk nonsense. Everyone who took a bet from a friend thinks they were a bookie!

[spoon]

I had a pony!

[disneyspy]

I had a pony!

when you were a little girl in poland?

[spoon]

when you were a little girl in poland?

dokładnie!

[disneyspy]

dokładnie!

to jest to co myślałem,my little spoon

[TripleSkeet]

it wasnt fixed. in todays NFL and all the money involved and security it is almost impossible to fix a game. Not to mention there are too many places to bet so there is no bookie or group paying off a side. it wouldnt be worth it. If it was fixed it would be fixed because too much action was on 1 side and a bookmaker went to someone on that sides def and said "let them score". Tell me how and who would do that?

Even if I bet $1 million on a game what would I offer someone to fix the game? Not enough to make it worth it for both sides and unless you play off a QB not 1 other position could have enough impact to make it worth paying off a player because you would be throwing away money and that would be just as much of a gamble as would the bet itself!

Now if you paid an official off then maybe you could fix a game. But then again that would have nothing to do with monday night because Tenn still had to score as time ran out. No official could guarantee someone would score there.

Everyone was a bookie? It makes me laugh when people talk nonsense. Everyone who took a bet from a friend thinks they were a bookie!

Between 2002 and 2003 I had 65 clients and made over $60k taking pro and college football bets. That money paid for my wedding and 6 months of my bills when I was out of work. I wasnt some college kid taking bets from his buddies, dumbass.

Last night I watched the Titans drive down the field intent on scoring a touchdown at the end of the game that would accomplish nothing other then covering the spread. Ive seen coaches go for 2 point conversion at times where it made no sense yet affected the line by half a point. In the early 90's I knew 5 guys on the Temple football team that routinely bet against their team because they knew they had no shot at winning, agreeing that if by some miracle they were winning they would miss a block or drop a pass to try to cover that spread.

There are fixed games in all kinds of sports. Does that mean EVERY game is fixed? Fuck no. But with the money wagered on games every week I definitely believe that there are certain games where the score gets a little push in the right direction. You can say "Why would they risk all theyve got?" and thats a valid question. But these are the same players that do just that getting involved in drugs, guns, robbery, dog fighting and other activities that put their livelihood at risk for extra money.

I dont have to prove anything. Just like Im not asking you to prove every single game is on the up and up. I feel there are games that are still fixed, you dont. Cool. I dont care if you agree with me or not.

[TripleSkeet]

to jest to co myślałem,my little spoon

You never answered me about making a sig bet on Sunday nights game. You in?

[disneyspy]

You never answered me about making a sig bet on Sunday nights game. You in?

i must not have seen that post,2 weeks? and after the boys win i get a week to ask for help so others can enjoy the fun

[Snacks]

Between 2002 and 2003 I had 65 clients and made over $60k taking pro and college football bets. That money paid for my wedding and 6 months of my bills when I was out of work. I wasnt some college kid taking bets from his buddies, dumbass.

Last night I watched the Titans drive down the field intent on scoring a touchdown at the end of the game that would accomplish nothing other then covering the spread. Ive seen coaches go for 2 point conversion at times where it made no sense yet affected the line by half a point. In the early 90's I knew 5 guys on the Temple football team that routinely bet against their team because they knew they had no shot at winning, agreeing that if by some miracle they were winning they would miss a block or drop a pass to try to cover that spread.

There are fixed games in all kinds of sports. Does that mean EVERY game is fixed? Fuck no. But with the money wagered on games every week I definitely believe that there are certain games where the score gets a little push in the right direction. You can say "Why would they risk all theyve got?" and thats a valid question. But these are the same players that do just that getting involved in drugs, guns, robbery, dog fighting and other activities that put their livelihood at risk for extra money.

I dont have to prove anything. Just like Im not asking you to prove every single game is on the up and up. I feel there are games that are still fixed, you dont. Cool. I dont care if you agree with me or not.

until you answer phones and take the action and are responsible for the money and pay wins and losses you aint a bookie. you are an agent at best. 2nd, if you arent under someones authority and arent paying up a share then your a clown who is acting the part rather then living it. Please please please lets end this discussion on a message board because you dont want to make a fool of yourself with me and you shouldnt be talking about this shit on a message board. Trust me!

[disneyspy]

until you answer phones and take the action and are responsible for the money and pay wins and losses you aint a bookie. you are an agent at best. 2nd, if you arent under someones authority and arent paying up a share then your a clown who is acting the part rather then living it. Please please please lets end this discussion on a message board because you dont want to make a fool of yourself with me and you shouldnt be talking about this shit on a message board. Trust me!

he'd kick your ass in pickem!!

[spoon]

To start, not sure you should put out there the money you made and paid zero taxes on. To me you just can't be careful enough on that one, and posting it on a message board is just asking for trouble.

Next, we're asking you for some proof bc you're making a serious statement about the game last night. I wouldn't ask you to prove or put out there why you thought something you didn't make that type of comment on. Do I think there is shady shit going on at most levels of sports, of course. However, I do expect you like my friends that constantly complain whenever 1 in 50 games has a line crossed on a last minute play to back up their claims with SOME form of proof or in the least speculation. You have nothing other then a line was crossed late and you don't like it. What were they supposed to do (TENNESSEE)? Give up and be pussies as you say? They scored late with the hope of a few seconds to be left to onside kick from what I can deduce. What do you expect them to do, just give up? I'd be more suspect of that if you ask me.

[TripleSkeet]

i must not have seen that post,2 weeks? and after the boys win i get a week to ask for help so others can enjoy the fun

Done. Good luck.

[disneyspy]

Prank Poster !! Prank Poster!!

[spoon]

until you answer phones and take the action and are responsible for the money and pay wins and losses you aint a bookie. you are an agent at best. 2nd, if you arent under someones authority and arent paying up a share then your a clown who is acting the part rather then living it. Please please please lets end this discussion on a message board because you dont want to make a fool of yourself with me and you shouldnt be talking about this shit on a message board. Trust me!

I'm no pro, but why would any of this versus him taking action left and right not make him legit. Just bc ur setup or someone else's is different doesn't mean they aren't doing essentially the same thing. Odd argument but I don't really know much of the bookie world. Still, if he was caught I'm sure it's be the same as if you were.

[TripleSkeet]

until you answer phones and take the action and are responsible for the money and pay wins and losses you aint a bookie. you are an agent at best. 2nd, if you arent under someones authority and arent paying up a share then your a clown who is acting the part rather then living it. Please please please lets end this discussion on a message board because you dont want to make a fool of yourself with me and you shouldnt be talking about this shit on a message board. Trust me!

It was my own business, backed with my own money, I answered the phone, put out the lines, kept the book, did the math, collected the money and paid what was owed. There wasnt middle men, it was just me. (and sometimes my fiance at the time). Not only that but I put people on payment plans when they went over their head, took my best gamblers out to dinner for an end of season feast, and gave out free reverses for the Super Bowl to those that lost the most. I know EXACTLY what the fuck Im talking about.

spoon has a point with the whole tax issue but my bigger worry was making sure the wiseguys in my neighborhood at the time, including my landlord, didnt find out because then I would have had to pay them every week for the privilege.

I got out because I lost my job in April 04, and was getting married. It wasnt worth the risk anymore. Got out the perfect time too because that season the Eagles crippled most of the bookies in Philly. They covered 12 games. Lost to Pitt in Week 7 I think, and didnt cover the final 3 weeks when none of the starters played and nobody bet them. Then they covered every playoff game including the Super Bowl. I wouldve either had to push off all the Birds bets every week, which nobody really wanted to take, or lose everything.

[TripleSkeet]

I'm no pro, but why would any of this versus him taking action left and right not make him legit. Just bc ur setup or someone else's is different doesn't mean they aren't doing essentially the same thing. Odd argument but I don't really know much of the bookie world. Still, if he was caught I'm sure it's be the same as if you were.

I guess apparently because I kept my business quiet and out of the reach of the mobsters that means I wasnt a "real" bookie. Thats ok with me. Id rather have been a fake one that got to keep all my profits then a real one that has to kick a percentage to some guys so they dont kick the shit out of me.

[spoon]

Sounds pretty legit/risky to me. Can I go 40x on Dspy being old? I'll take the over too.

[TripleSkeet]

Sounds pretty legit/risky to me. Can I go 40x on Dspy being old? I'll take the over too.

:lol::lol::lol:

Winnah winnah chicken dinnah!

I would never do it now. Ive got too much to lose. But in 2002 I was a 26 year old bartender renting an apt. with a girlfriend. I had put 10k aside and decided if I lost it, that was it I would be done. For 9 weeks it was up and down but week 9 of that NFL season was the week everything fell into place. I never had a down week from there on out.

[disneyspy]

worst
bookie
ever

[sailor]

excited for the fordham qb starting tomorrow. nothing could be better than if he beats the broncos.

[OGC]

Patriot's second leading tackler has been suspended for 4 games for taking an ADHD medicine. (http://www.necn.com/12/11/10/Spikes-positive-tes-from-ADHD-medicine/landing_sports.html?blockID=371118&feedID=3352)

He will be eligible for the first week of playoffs.


How do players keep making stupid mistakes like this ? I would think that they are told what types of prescribed medicines they can and can not take considering the NFL testing policy.

[sailor]

Patriot's second leading tackler has been suspended for 4 games for taking an ADHD medicine. (http://www.necn.com/12/11/10/Spikes-positive-tes-from-ADHD-medicine/landing_sports.html?blockID=371118&feedID=3352)

He will be eligible for the first week of playoffs.


How do players keep making stupid mistakes like this ? I would think that they are told what types of prescribed medicines they can and can not take considering the NFL testing policy.

More than that, you'd think the team would have them seeing doctors who were aware of the rules as well.

[Snoogans]

More than that, you'd think the team would have them seeing doctors who were aware of the rules as well.

actually, the problem was he didnt tell them. He got the script and started doin it. If you tell the NFL you get exemptions. So its even DUMBER

[Snacks]

Patriot's second leading tackler has been suspended for 4 games for taking an ADHD medicine. (http://www.necn.com/12/11/10/Spikes-positive-tes-from-ADHD-medicine/landing_sports.html?blockID=371118&feedID=3352)

He will be eligible for the first week of playoffs.


How do players keep making stupid mistakes like this ? I would think that they are told what types of prescribed medicines they can and can not take considering the NFL testing policy.

how about its stupid to get suspended for taking LEGAL prescribed by a Dr drugs!

[sailor]

actually, the problem was he didnt tell them. He got the script and started doin it. If you tell the NFL you get exemptions. So its even DUMBER

really? that's retarded of him then.

how about its stupid to get suspended for taking LEGAL prescribed by a Dr drugs!

he has to know their rules. like just watching the olympics you'd know they can't take certain asthma medications for example. how would the athlete themselves not know?

[Snacks]

really? that's retarded of him then.



he has to know their rules. like just watching the olympics you'd know they can't take certain asthma medications for example. how would the athlete themselves not know?

Im not saying the player shouldnt know the rules and alert the league or whoever. Im saying the rules are idiotic that something legal is made illegal by the league.

[Snoogans]

Im not saying the player shouldnt know the rules and alert the league or whoever. Im saying the rules are idiotic that something legal is made illegal by the league.
you can ask for and receive therapeutic use exemptions like in baseball. he just never asked

[Snacks]

you can ask for and receive therapeutic use exemptions like in baseball. he just never asked

Once again I understand that what Im saying is. there should be no need for any exceptions. Rules against legal, Dr prescribed drugs should not be illegal by the NFL or any other sport. You shouldnt have to seek exceptions and their should be no suspension for legal drugs!

[underdog]

Once again I understand that what Im saying is. there should be no need for any exceptions. Rules against legal, Dr prescribed drugs should not be illegal by the NFL or any other sport. You shouldnt have to seek exceptions and their should be no suspension for legal drugs!

Doctors can prescribe steroids.

[Snacks]

Doctors can prescribe steroids.

exactly and its one of the many reasons I have argued against all the assholes who have a problem with the players that have taken them. My Uncle who is a Dr has always told me steroids arent bad for you if they are taken properly and in proper cycles. The entire steroid argument is made to sound worse then it is. Its like any other PSA against drug use, they are meant to scare parents! There is evidence that steroids have been used on baseball and football as far back as the 60's. Baseball has also been known for its speed and uppers! Those are a lot worse for you then steroids!

Anyway back to the argument. If the players has a prescription for a legal drug he shouldnt need to wait for approval to take it. All this player should have to do is provide proof that this was done under a Drs care. I know thats not the rules of the league Im saying it should be the rules. The guy is suspended for taking legal drugs but because he didnt ask permission 1st they suspend him. Its all about control and showing who is boss. Its a bullshit power trip by the league!

BTW I dont even like the Patriots but I think its wrong they are getting fucked like this!

[underdog]

exactly and its one of the many reasons I have argued against all the assholes who have a problem with the players that have taken them. My Uncle who is a Dr has always told me steroids arent bad for you if they are taken properly and in proper cycles. The entire steroid argument is made to sound worse then it is. Its like any other PSA against drug use, they are meant to scare parents! There is evidence that steroids have been used on baseball and football as far back as the 60's. Baseball has also been known for its speed and uppers! Those are a lot worse for you then steroids!

Anyway back to the argument. If the players has a prescription for a legal drug he shouldnt need to wait for approval to take it. All this player should have to do is provide proof that this was done under a Drs care. I know thats not the rules of the league Im saying it should be the rules. The guy is suspended for taking legal drugs but because he didnt ask permission 1st they suspend him. Its all about control and showing who is boss. Its a bullshit power trip by the league!

BTW I dont even like the Patriots but I think its wrong they are getting fucked like this!

I don't care about players taking steroids, but I was just telling you why the rule is in place. A doctor can prescribe any sort of performance enhancing drugs, that's why the things need to be cleared by the league.

[TripleSkeet]

exactly and its one of the many reasons I have argued against all the assholes who have a problem with the players that have taken them. My Uncle who is a Dr has always told me steroids arent bad for you if they are taken properly and in proper cycles. The entire steroid argument is made to sound worse then it is. Its like any other PSA against drug use, they are meant to scare parents! There is evidence that steroids have been used on baseball and football as far back as the 60's. Baseball has also been known for its speed and uppers! Those are a lot worse for you then steroids!



Finally something I agree with you on 100%. Its all fear mongering. Doctors have yet to find any harmful effects to taking HGH either. Most doctors that have studied it actually want it legalized as they recommend it for anyone over 40 years old to improve quality of life.

[Snacks]

Finally something I agree with you on 100%. Its all fear mongering. Doctors have yet to find any harmful effects to taking HGH either. Most doctors that have studied it actually want it legalized as they recommend it for anyone over 40 years old to improve quality of life.

look at that!!!!

It has always made me laugh when they make players that did juice out to be villains. There have been lots of Drs that have said steroids really only give recovery to a player more then anything else. I compare steroid use to Tommy John surgery or Cortisone Shots (which is a steroid). They all help continue a players career especially ones that would be over before they start. Not only have players been able to come back and play from tommy john surgery most have come back as more of a power pitcher. You are supposed to be happy about advances in medicine to help continue a career or help give you the boost and recovery to play the next day. But because of assholes like Bob Costas who hate that todays athletes were breaking records that nerds like Costas jerked off to as a child they created this mess and made it worse then it is. For how much fans even hated steroids it only lasted a few years. For the most part the majority of fans dont give 2 shits about it.

But they got what they wanted, to make criminals out of Bonds and Clemons. I hope they both win their cases!

Anyway...

[underdog]

An extra day of Favre drama (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5909288)

[Snoogans]

exactly and its one of the many reasons I have argued against all the assholes who have a problem with the players that have taken them. My Uncle who is a Dr has always told me steroids arent bad for you if they are taken properly and in proper cycles. The entire steroid argument is made to sound worse then it is. Its like any other PSA against drug use, they are meant to scare parents! There is evidence that steroids have been used on baseball and football as far back as the 60's. Baseball has also been known for its speed and uppers! Those are a lot worse for you then steroids!

Anyway back to the argument. If the players has a prescription for a legal drug he shouldnt need to wait for approval to take it. All this player should have to do is provide proof that this was done under a Drs care. I know thats not the rules of the league Im saying it should be the rules. The guy is suspended for taking legal drugs but because he didnt ask permission 1st they suspend him. Its all about control and showing who is boss. Its a bullshit power trip by the league!

BTW I dont even like the Patriots but I think its wrong they are getting fucked like this!
i absolutely agree with all of this

[Justice4all]

An extra day of Favre drama (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5909288)

Well as a Giants fan I am happy they're not getting fucked over by being forced to play on Sunday after the horrendous travel conditions they had to face. A smart move by the NFL.
I just hope this makes the game National. With the MNF game going on I don't know what the contracts for TV/conditions are for this. Does anyone know?

I would think if Fox could, they would show football no matter what day it's being played...it's their bread and butter money wise.

[underdog]

Well as a Giants fan I am happy they're not getting fucked over by being forced to play on Sunday after the horrendous travel conditions they had to face. A smart move by the NFL.
I just hope this makes the game National. With the MNF game going on I don't know what the contracts for TV/conditions are for this. Does anyone know?

I would think if Fox could, they would show football no matter what day it's being played...it's their bread and butter money wise.

From my understanding, ESPN owns any game played on a Monday. So it will be interesting how this plays out. This was going to be FOX's big game tomorrow.

If we're lucky, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman won't make it to the game.

Hey, NFL team worth millions of dollars. Instead of being stranded at an airport, why don't you DRIVE there? Rent a bunch of nice buses and make it there.

[Justice4all]

From my understanding, ESPN owns any game played on a Monday. So it will be interesting how this plays out. This was going to be FOX's big game tomorrow.

If we're lucky, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman won't make it to the game.

Hey, NFL team worth millions of dollars. Instead of being stranded at an airport, why don't you DRIVE there? Rent a bunch of nice buses and make it there.

From what I understand they stopped plowing the roads for a while and waited for the storm to subside. Driving there would have been a huge mistake.

And yes....it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I would think ESPN would allow the game to be played. Hell if I was ESPN I would play the Giants game instead of the Baltimore game.
Or do a double header like they do on Opening day.

I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

[PapaBear]

+I would think if Fox could, they would show football no matter what day it's being played...it's their bread and butter money wise.

From my understanding, ESPN owns any game played on a Monday. So it will be interesting how this plays out. This was going to be FOX's big game tomorrow.
From NFL.com... (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5909288)

The NFL confirmed Saturday night that the game will be played at 7 p.m. CT and be aired by Fox in the teams' local television markets.

[Judge Smails]

From what I understand they stopped plowing the roads for a while and waited for the storm to subside. Driving there would have been a huge mistake.

And yes....it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I would think ESPN would allow the game to be played. Hell if I was ESPN I would play the Giants game instead of the Baltimore game.
Or do a double header like they do on Opening day.

I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

Yeah, but now they'll have to play the Eagles on a very short week.

And, I was thinking about this even though, it won't happen (but it is a possibility with all that snow) - What if the roof of the Metrodome collapses during the day on Monday? Do they then move it to another stadium on Tuesday or Wednesday? And then do they have to turn around and play the Eagles on Sunday? What's the leagues contingencies on something like that?

[sailor]

From NFL.com... (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5909288)

The espn article said that as well, but maybe it was added later.

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah, but now they'll have to play the Eagles on a very short week.

And, I was thinking about this even though, it won't happen (but it is a possibility with all that snow) - What if the roof of the Metrodome collapses during the day on Monday? Do they then move it to another stadium on Tuesday or Wednesday? And then do they have to turn around and play the Eagles on Sunday?

Its no different then playing a Sunday game then having to play Thursday night.

[PapaBear]

The espn article said that as well, but maybe it was added later.
I just saw that. So why would anyone think it might get played nationally, or on ESPN? It seems pretty clear, it's only going to be show on Fox, in MN, and NY.

Edit: Though, looking at Fox's Monday night schedule, it would be sill not to show it nationally, since they just have repeats on. Unless it's like what was said before... ESPN owns Monday nights on a national level.

[sailor]

I just saw that. So why would anyone think it might get played nationally, or on ESPN? It seems pretty clear, it's only going to be show on Fox, in MN, and NY.

Thought it was added later, then saw you posted it like 15 minutes ago. Eh, often I don't click links and just follow the discussion in the thread. That's probably it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's official. The Metrodome's roof has collapsed. There's a significant tear in the roof.

Game is on Fox in NY and MN, but also on Sunday ticket. ESPN would have a shitfest if the NFL threw this game up on the NFL Network, since Favre = ratings.

I know it sounds insane, but what about playing the game at Target FIeld?

[disneyspy]

the vikings are pillaging! the vikings are pillaging! run for your lives

[Judge Smails]

It's official. The Metrodome's roof has collapsed. There's a significant tear in the roof.

Game is on Fox in NY and MN, but also on Sunday ticket. ESPN would have a shitfest if the NFL threw this game up on the NFL Network, since Favre = ratings.

I know it sounds insane, but what about playing the game at Target FIeld?

I predicted it. Game should be moved to New Meadowlands Stadium on Monday night. It's not like there's not a precedent for that happening when someone's dome goes kablooey.

[KnoxHarrington]

I predicted it. Game should be moved to New Meadowlands Stadium on Monday night. It's not like there's not a precedent for that happening when someone's dome goes kablooey.

Should move it to Lambeau. That could be good for some lulz.

[Judge Smails]

Another thing I just thought of - To anyone who just wants to move it to an outdoor stadium in the area, whether it be Target or Lambeau or anywhere - Do you think the Giants even bothered to pack their cold weather, outdoor gear? What are the logistics of getting that stuff to them on time when everyone who handles that is probably with the team in KC? This is a total clusterfuck and will probably have an adverse effect on the Giants performance this week and might carry over into next week.

As a Giants fan I feel the only fair thing would be to move the game to NY/NJ or force the Vikings to forfeit. :p

[epo]

Should move it to Lambeau. That could be good for some lulz.

We only allow lowlife Vikings fans in our stadium once per year.

Maybe the Vikings should've gotten that new stadium built...

[KnoxHarrington]

We only allow lowlife Vikings fans in our stadium once per year.

Maybe the Vikings should've gotten that new stadium built...

My prediction: 2013 NFL Season, opening day, and the announcer at the LA Coliseum, in the beautiful September Southern California sunlight, calls out: "Ladies and gentlemen, your LOS ANGELES VIKINGS!"

I think the team's moving if they can't get a serious commitment on getting rid of that dump.

And, hey, there's a precedent to a team from Minneapolis moving to LA and keeping what sounds like an inappropriate name for their new home once they're there.

[underdog]

Ed Werder just said that Favre told him if the game had been played as normally planned, he absolutely would not have played.

Good job Brett and ESPN for keeping this going.

[KnoxHarrington]

Ed Werder just said that Favre told him if the game had been played as normally planned, he absolutely would not have played.

Good job Brett and ESPN for keeping this going.

I don't think Favre is intentionally lying, but now that he doesn't have to back up that statement, he feels free to say that.

He's like a child.

[disneyspy]

God Loves Favres! !

[underdog]

I don't think Favre is intentionally lying, but now that he doesn't have to back up that statement, he feels free to say that.

He's like a child.

He really is like a child out there.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'm just glad I won't have to watch the awfulness that would have been giants Vikings on that awful field. We already know it's just going to be a contest of who can throw the TaINT at the worst possible time

[Snacks]

NFL is reporting the game will not be played Mon or Tuesday night as the roof has flattened. They are exploring playing the game at the U of Minn which is an outdoor stadium. They may also fly them both to the closest Dome stadium.

This sounds like such a cluster fuck. I will be honest if it wasnt for fantasy football I dont think most of us would care. Is there anyway this game is just postponed or cancelled all together and only played if needed like a baseball game that is cancelled? I got to think it will be played no matter what, even if its Tuesday night or Wed?

[hanso]

Was gonna ask if the Giants Vs. Vikings game will go off this week also.

The collapse of the Metrodome's inflatable roof (snow) could force the NFL to move its Week 14 game between the Minnesota Vikings and New York Giants to..... when......


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/12/12/1871232/metrodome-collapse-vikings-giants-minnesota-detroit
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/12/12/1871184/metrodome-roof-collapses-nfl-giants-vikings

[hanso]

I see on the fantasy pages Mon 8 PM for the game now. Maybe it's safe to leave MIN or NYG players in.

[KingModem]

Another thing I just thought of - To anyone who just wants to move it to an outdoor stadium in the area, whether it be Target or Lambeau or anywhere - Do you think the Giants even bothered to pack their cold weather, outdoor gear? What are the logistics of getting that stuff to them on time when everyone who handles that is probably with the team in KC? This is a total clusterfuck and will probably have an adverse effect on the Giants performance this week and might carry over into next week.

As a Giants fan I feel the only fair thing would be to move the game to NY/NJ or force the Vikings to forfeit. :p

But if the Giants didn't make it on time to Minneapolis. they were going to delay the start of the game.

Sir, your comment pisses me off. Mostly as a Vikings fan and as a resident of Minneapolis.

[Crippler]

Now reading that they will likely move the game to Detroit, with New Orleans as a possible fallback, on Monday night.

They should put the game in the LA Coliseum & make it a "late" Monday night game like they do in week 1 so you can watch both Monday night games in full if, like me, you have no life & rarely get to bed before 3am.

[Snoogans]

Now reading that they will likely move the game to Detroit, with New Orleans as a possible fallback, on Monday night.

They should put the game in the LA Coliseum & make it a "late" Monday night game like they do in week 1 so you can watch both Monday night games in full if, like me, you have no life & rarely get to bed before 3am.

The Giants should stop over in Chicago on the way to Detroit and go see Cutler. He would shit himself and just drop the ball and run away again

[hanso]

Having both games on tv would rock.

[Crippler]

The Giants should stop over in Chicago on the way to Detroit and go see Cutler. He would shit himself and just drop the ball and run away again

Stop kicking the retard! Besides, why would you want to get in Cutler's head this week? Is there anyone but Fallon who doesn't want to see the Bears beat the Pats? C'mon man!!

[Snacks]

The game will be monday at det 7:00 pm. Did any of you see the video of the stadium footage on fox? Wow that was something watching the roof cave in!

[disneyspy]

the game is at 7PM in detroit,i hope its blacked out here

[disneyspy]

The game will be monday at det 7:00 pm. Did any of you see the video of the stadium footage on fox? Wow that was something watching the roof cave in!

ya i saw that,it was pretty cool

[hanso]

Espn NFL countdown states the game in DET. Mon 7.20 PM. And some compelling insight from Cris Carter on this game. Who reports that the players will not be up to par due to the Popeyes fried take out chicken they will be dining on. (I am not making this up I swear).

[Snoogans]

Espn NFL countdown states the game in DET. Mon 7.20 PM. And some compelling insight from Cris Carter on this game. Who reports that the players will not be up to par due to the Popeyes fried take out chicken they will be dining on. (I am not making this up I swear).

he made a fair point overall even if he didnt say it well. The guys havent worked out since friday and have been doin nothing but eating.

[epo]

he made a fair point overall even if he didnt say it well. The guys havent worked out since friday and have been doin nothing but eating.

Its actually a very good point. I wouldn't be shocked if the game was a Grade A clusterfuck.

[Snoogans]

also, popeyes is fuckin incredible. They should be eatin some popeyes, I would

[epo]

also, popeyes is fuckin incredible. They should be eatin some popeyes, I would

Fuckin' starving over here.

[OGC]

Stop kicking the retard! Besides, why would you want to get in Cutler's head this week? Is there anyone but Fallon who doesn't want to see the Bears beat the Pats? C'mon man!!


:bye:

[Snacks]

also, popeyes is fuckin incredible. They should be eatin some popeyes, I would

not a huge fan of popeyes chicken but I love their fried shrimp and crawfish!!! fucking incredible!

[TheGameHHH]

did anyone see the video of the roof collapsing on Fox? I swear it looked so fake. This is all an NFL conspiracy so Favre can play

[disneyspy]

did anyone see the video of the roof collapsing on Fox? I swear it looked so fake. This is all an NFL conspiracy so Favre can play

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/snow-collapses-metrodome,-vikings-postponed-dec-12-2010

[Snoogans]

there is no fuckin way thats real

[epo]

Totally real. That stadium is garbage.

[Dan 'Hampton]

That is great video. Btw, deirdorf is awful.

[Justice4all]

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/snow-collapses-metrodome,-vikings-postponed-dec-12-2010


thank god that didn't happen during the game. The injury and possible death count would have been just tragic.

[Crippler]

thank god that didn't happen during the game. The injury and possible death count would have been just tragic.

Not if it fell on Favre.

[Justice4all]

NFL is reporting the game will not be played Mon or Tuesday night as the roof has flattened. They are exploring playing the game at the U of Minn which is an outdoor stadium. They may also fly them both to the closest Dome stadium.

This sounds like such a cluster fuck. I will be honest if it wasnt for fantasy football I dont think most of us would care. Is there anyway this game is just postponed or cancelled all together and only played if needed like a baseball game that is cancelled? I got to think it will be played no matter what, even if its Tuesday night or Wed?

That would NEVER work in a league where every win is important. Baseball you have 162 games in a season.

Football...only 16. And with the Giants tied with Philly in the W-L collum every win counts.
And if the Giants had to play on Tuesday would it be fair to have them play against the Eagles only 4 full days later? Their most important game of the season (so far?)

No...I can see where you might want to find an idea for situations like this, but that idea is not even CLOSE to being a good one.

After Katrina and the Saints situation the NFL should have had more then enough contingency plans for these situations. If they didn't by now...they should quit and let more intelligent people run the NFL.

[hanso]

Not if it fell on Favre.

He would have played the next week.

[Justice4all]

Not if it fell on Favre.

tee hee!

[Snacks]

That would NEVER work in a league where every win is important. Baseball you have 162 games in a season.

Football...only 16. And with the Giants tied with Philly in the W-L collum every win counts.
And if the Giants had to play on Tuesday would it be fair to have them play against the Eagles only 4 full days later? Their most important game of the season (so far?)

.

it happens every week. Teams play on Sunday and then play Thurs night games. Why cant the NYG play Tuesday and then play philly on Sun or Mon?

It doesnt matter the game has already been schedule for Mon night anyway

[underdog]

2 minutes into the 2nd quarter of the TB/WAS game, Ryan Torraine has 137yards rushing.

It's 0-0.

[Ritalin]

Cmon, Lions. Imagine if the Lions finally woke up and won a game then the Bears squeaked one out in the snow against a tired Pats team.

A boy can dream.

[underdog]

2 minutes into the 2nd quarter of the TB/WAS game, Ryan Torraine has 137yards rushing.

It's 0-0.

Another missed FG, still 0-0.

[epo]

it happens every week. Teams play on Sunday and then play Thurs night games. Why cant the NYG play Tuesday and then play philly on Sun or Mon?

It doesnt matter the game has already been schedule for Mon night anyway

Aren't most of those situations on the schedule so they can be planned for? This shift makes it harder for the Giants this week and in their planning process for next week.

[epo]

Cmon, Lions. Imagine if the Lions finally woke up and won a game then the Bears squeaked one out in the snow against a tired Pats team.

A boy can dream.

You need to be drug tested.

[Ritalin]

Or, maybe Suh really connects with Rogers. Bam.

He gave it his best shot with Cutler already. A bad fine btw.

[Ritalin]

You need to be drug tested.

Ok. We'll see.

It's not probable, but it's not "you're on drugs" crazy.

[Ritalin]

What a shitty throw.

[disneyspy]

What a shitty throw.

stanton is in a zone!!

[disneyspy]

i have a prediction,the lions will go in at the half with a lead and then choke in the 4th quater

[epo]

stanton is in a zone!!

He's awesome. They just ran a QB option keeper on 3rd down.

I'm shocked it didn't work in the NFL.

[underdog]

Wow, the Redskins are fucking horrible. No one knows what they're doing out there.

[Justice4all]

it happens every week. Teams play on Sunday and then play Thurs night games. Why cant the NYG play Tuesday and then play philly on Sun or Mon?

It doesnt matter the game has already been schedule for Mon night anyway

True. But let's look at the Giants travel schedule for this weekend.

Leave NJ, get stuck for god know how many hours in K.C. Then get to Minneapolis. Only to have to turn around and then go to Detroit and play tomorrow. 4 states in two days. That's not easy to deal with.

If it was just from NJ to Minn. and back I would say normal schedule. This snow is going to make life hell for the Giants this weekend.

[Ritalin]

How's it going over there, Epo?

Who's that quarterback?

[A.J.]

Wow, the Redskins are fucking horrible. No one knows what they're doing out there.

NOT a chip off the ol' block.

http://www.betbigdc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Kyle-Shanahan-John-McDonnell.jpg

[Ritalin]

Rogers is fine. He'll be back after the half. You can see it. They haven't taken him back yet.

[disneyspy]

Rogers is fine. He'll be back after the half. You can see it. They haven't taken him back yet.

hippo?

[Ritalin]

OHHHHHH!

Concussion? Holy shit. I have to go buy lottery tickets.

[Snacks]

Rogers is fine. He'll be back after the half. You can see it. They haven't taken him back yet.

they just said hes out for the game!

how great would it be if there was a snow storm overnight in det and the NYG / Minn game was cancelled again?

[epo]

OHHHHHH!

Concussion? Holy shit. I have to go buy lottery tickets.

It was so stupid too. Learn to fucking slide.

[Ritalin]

hippo?

I know. I wiffed on that one.

[Ritalin]

It was so stupid too. Learn to fucking slide.

This isn't his first either, is it?

That could be a couple of games.

[disneyspy]

I know. I wiffed on that one.

he looked like eli manning standing on the sideline,like he wasnt really sure what was going on but he wanted to go play with the other guys

[cougarjake13]

It's official. The Metrodome's roof has collapsed. There's a significant tear in the roof.

Game is on Fox in NY and MN, but also on Sunday ticket. ESPN would have a shitfest if the NFL threw this game up on the NFL Network, since Favre = ratings.

I know it sounds insane, but what about playing the game at Target FIeld?

that was my first thought but it think it would take them too long to get the field ready for an nfl game

so going to uni of minn or another dome stadium made more sense

[Ritalin]

Seeing the replay of that play, they make helmets that could cushion that bounce off the turf. I don't know why they don't wear them. So what if they look stupid.

[cougarjake13]

Espn NFL countdown states the game in DET. Mon 7.20 PM. And some compelling insight from Cris Carter on this game. Who reports that the players will not be up to par due to the Popeyes fried take out chicken they will be dining on. (I am not making this up I swear).

if he wasnt black he'd be getting crucified right now

[cougarjake13]

did anyone see the video of the roof collapsing on Fox? I swear it looked so fake. This is all an NFL conspiracy so Favre can play

i did think it was odd that they had cameras up and running

[Snoogans]

i did think it was odd that they had cameras up and running

not just running, but in all the perfect spots

[cougarjake13]

not just running, but in all the perfect spots

yeh and i swear right before the snow falls in theres a guy driving a golf cart on the field

[Ritalin]

i did think it was odd that they had cameras up and running

That's just good production. Doesn't cost anything to keep cameras rolling.

[cougarjake13]

That's just good production. Doesn't cost anything to keep cameras rolling.

but the game was already postponed to mon night so even if they had them set up for the 1pm start why keep them running all the way to mon night?

[Ritalin]

but the game was already postponed to mon night so even if they had them set up for the 1pm start why keep them running all the way to mon night?

Because everyone at the metronome knew there was a chance the roof would collapse.

[disneyspy]

That's just good production. Doesn't cost anything to keep cameras rolling.

c'mon man,isnt it obvious that the vikings fucked up their stadium and cost themselves millions of dollars in repairs and lost revenue so favre could keep his streak alive?

[Snoogans]

c'mon man,isnt it obvious that the vikings fucked up their stadium and cost themselves millions of dollars in repairs and lost revenue so favre could keep his streak alive?

actually, i would think more the NFL did it to get the vikings a new stadium. Sorta along the lines of david stern moving teams and making threats to keep gettin public funding

[disneyspy]

actually, i would think more the NFL did it to get the vikings a new stadium. Sorta along the lines of david stern moving teams and making threats to keep gettin public funding

someone gave rhino a 12 pack and a machete

[Ritalin]

That's not going to happen. LA Vikings, anybody?

And it's not working for the NBA, either. New Orleans is not moving to Seattle, so where are they going?

[Ritalin]

This is the most eventful 0-0 gave I've ever seen.

[Ritalin]

Bears Beara Bears Bears.

[disneyspy]

holy shit the pack dont have a 3rd string QB? how great would it be if this kid gets knocked out?

[cougarjake13]

holy shit the pack dont have a 3rd string QB? how great would it be if this kid gets knocked out?

direct snaps to the rb rest of the game

or the hilarity of a punter or kicker back there

[Ritalin]

Alright Lions. TD right here.

[epo]

holy shit the pack dont have a 3rd string QB? how great would it be if this kid gets knocked out?

I believe WR Jordy Nelson is the emergency QB.

[Ritalin]

Boy would I hate to be a Lions fan.

[cougarjake13]

Boy would I hate to be a Lions fan.

barry sanders has got to be the only bright spot in the last 25 years

[hanso]

if he wasnt black he'd be getting crucified right now

Think Boomer already got that for saying far less. Forgot what it was though.

[Snoogans]

barry sanders has got to be the only bright spot in the last 25 years

Herman Moore

[Ritalin]

barry sanders has got to be the only bright spot in the last 25 years

And then he just quit.

The only good thing about the Lions is the phrase "Honalulu Blue"

[Ritalin]

Herman Moore

That's a pretty bad bright spot.

[cougarjake13]

That's a pretty bad bright spot.

yeh plus calvin johnson has prob done more than moore

[Ritalin]

Uh oh.

[disneyspy]

heller says call me helen keller cuz i cant see losing to the pack


agheee ghee ghee

[cougarjake13]

heller says call me helen keller cuz i cant see losing to the pack


agheee ghee ghee

ghey

[disneyspy]

words will never hurt me

[underdog]

According to Red Zone, BRETTFAVRE is telling people he won't be able to play tomorrow.

This way, when the game starts and BRETTFAVRE starts tomorrow, everyone can pay attention to BRETTFAVRE and see how great BRETTFAVRE is.

BRETTFAVRE.

[cougarjake13]

According to Red Zone, BRETTFAVRE is telling people he won't be able to play tomorrow.

This way, when the game starts and BRETTFAVRE starts tomorrow, everyone can pay attention to BRETTFAVRE and see how great BRETTFAVRE is.

BRETTFAVRE.

who is he ??

never heard of him

[underdog]

I will laugh so hard if Gano misses the PAT.

[razorboy]

I will laugh so hard if Gano misses the PAT.

Even better.

[underdog]

I will laugh so hard if Gano misses the PAT.

BAD SNAP!!!! WASHINGTON IS GOING TO LOSE!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahah

The Redskins are fucking awful.

[disneyspy]

i cant believe the lions didnt choke in the 4th

[Ritalin]

Hahaha!

Now, one last thing for a perfect day.

[cougarjake13]

Hahaha!

Now, one last thing for a perfect day.



bears win ??

[Snacks]

how do you not int that pass and take it to the house? Come on Miami wtf no one can catch balls in their hands not even DB's

[OGC]

The Bears/Patriots game should be fun with the weather like it is.

[cougarjake13]

The Bears/Patriots game should be fun with the weather like it is.

love snow games

[razorboy]

Ha. Sanchez is such a fucking putz.

[Kevin]

Does Revis ever cover the top guy anymore?

All ive seen is Cromartie on the top guys.

[razorboy]

Does Revis ever cover the top guy anymore?

He's too busy trademarking retarded nicknames.

[underdog]

this Patriots' offense is great to watch.

[cougarjake13]

Does Revis ever cover the top guy anymore?

All ive seen is Cromartie on the top guys.

this year he seems to not have as much bc of the holdout and injury

[OGC]

this Patriots' offense is great to watch.


and the rout is on in Chicago.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Thought this was "Bear" weather.

[underdog]

Nice defense, Chicago.

[OGC]

Thought this was "Bear" weather.


I hope that missed extra point doesn't come back to haunt the Patriots.

[disneyspy]

Thought this was "Bear" weather.

it looks like hibernation time

[Dan 'Hampton]

I hope that missed extra point doesn't come back to haunt the Patriots.



It won't with this pick6 coming up.

[underdog]

The Chicago Bears are playing like the Chicago Bears everyone thought they were going to be.

[Crispy123]

The Dolphins will never be able to hold on to the lead with all these friggin turnovers!

[Kevin]

Both the Jets and the Dolphins are fucking terrible.

I count watching this as atonement for all the sins of the past week.

[Crispy123]

Both the Jets and the Dolphins are fucking terrible.

I count watching this as atonement for all the sins of the past week.

you're terrible. Great ANOTHER Henne turnover!

[Snacks]

What a classless piece of shit team the jets are. On a punt a jets coach trips a player on purpose and hurts the dolphin player. I have never seen anything like that in my life. I hope the league does something!

[razorboy]

Wow, career threatening douchebaggery from the Jets sideline. Classy.

[Kevin]

The Jets have gotten real lucky on some no calls.

And that play on the sidelines was an absalout disgrace.

[sailor]

this is a job saving performance by the chargers.

[underdog]

this is a job saving performance by the chargers.

spoon is very happy to hear that

[underdog]

Wow, career threatening douchebaggery from the Jets sideline. Classy.

I hope there is video of this.

[Kevin]

I hope there is video of this.



Clear footage that CBS showed in slow-mo

[Snacks]

I hope there is video of this.

heres a clear picture blown up

http://30fps.mocksession.com/2010%20December%2012%2018%2031%2043.jpg

[underdog]

heres a clear picture blown up

http://30fps.mocksession.com/2010%20December%2012%2018%2031%2043.jpg

Wow. So he was out of bounds and the guy decided to trip him?

Was it a coach or a player in plain clothes?

[disneyspy]

the first video to the webs

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[disneyspy]

sorry this was the first

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[underdog]

Bears v Patriots is either going to be a great game or show how dominant the AFC is.

The latter.

I think it just ended up showing how weak the entire NFL is.

This Patriots team is a weak team and they're destroying the "top" teams in the NFL.

[underdog]

The Sanchize throwing it 44 times is not the way to win a game.

[Crispy123]

The Sanchize throwing it 44 times is not the way to win a game.

To be fair, they were up against a clearly better team.

[Sinestro]

Can't believe the Jets lost to the Dolphins. 9 points in the last 2 games.

Alot of what ifs...

[Snacks]

Can't believe the Jets lost to the Dolphins. 9 points in the last 2 games.

Alot of what ifs...

Whats not to believe? The Jets won 1 game convincingly all year and that was against the Bills. They should have lost to Miami in Miami, they should have lost to Denver, Det, Clev, Cincy etc. The Jets are really a 3-10, 4-9 team who has played teams who gave away the games by bad coaching decisions or last minute mistakes.

Same old Jets! Got to love this if you hate the jets like so many people do!

[Sinestro]

Man if the Jets played the Dolphins 100 times, the Jets would beat the Dolphins 70% of the time. The Jets have the better team. Who would you rather have Henne or the Sanchize.

[Sinestro]

The Dolphins looked like they didn't want the game in the end, I can see Rex say that he never lost faith in Sanchez if they pulled it out. Former Jets Thomas Jones would have killed in this game.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Whats not to believe? The Jets won 1 game convincingly all year and that was against the Bills. They should have lost to Miami in Miami, they should have lost to Denver, Det, Clev, Cincy etc. The Jets are really a 3-10, 4-9 team who has played teams who gave away the games by bad coaching decisions or last minute mistakes.

Same old Jets! Got to love this if you hate the jets like so many people do!

Shoulda coulda woulda, the point is they didn't. Any bullshit complaining about this is just sour grapes.

The fact of the matter is, you're still 2 games behind the Jets and 1-5 at home.

Your Dolphins played the same exact teams the Jets did, so please don't give me this shit that the Fins are so much superior than the Jets.

[Ritalin]

Well, that was a pretty good rape.

[disneyspy]

alright sunday night
where are you?

[Snacks]

Man if the Jets played the Dolphins 100 times, the Jets would beat the Dolphins 70% of the time. The Jets have the better team. Who would you rather have Henne or the Sanchize.

neither they both suck Henne actually has a higher completion %, less ints and a better QB rating so dont go crazy because Sanchez did well 1 or 2 games. I think over all miami has a better team. The jets have just gotten lucky and the dolphins have gotten unlucky this year. I at least see miami for what they are, a .500 or little better team that needs to learn how to play 60 minutes. Jets and their fans have been delusional all year!

[Tenbatsuzen]

and FWIW, the trip was inexcusable and I hope the staffer who did it is fired.

[Tenbatsuzen]

neither they both suck Henne actually has a higher completion %, less ints and a better QB rating so dont go crazy because Sanchez did well 1 or 2 games. I think over all miami has a better team. The jets have just gotten lucky and the dolphins have gotten unlucky this year. I at least see miami for what they are, a .500 or little better team that needs to learn how to play 60 minutes. Jets and their fans have been delusional all year!

2 games behind the Jets, 1-5 at home, will probably need to blow Gooddell to make the playoffs. Get sucking, boy.

[Sinestro]

Can we jusy agree that the Dolphins and Jets both suck. They were lucky to make the playoff last year with Indy laying down the last game of the season instead of going for the record.

[Snacks]

Shoulda coulda woulda, the point is they didn't. Any bullshit complaining about this is just sour grapes.

The fact of the matter is, you're still 2 games behind the Jets and 1-5 at home.

Your Dolphins played the same exact teams the Jets did, so please don't give me this shit that the Fins are so much superior than the Jets.

How did your team do today? How did they do last week? You guys talk a lot of shit for a team that is awful. Tell me they arent the worst 9-4 team (they were the worst 9-2 team) ever? Tell me what this team has done this year to say you are impressed by them?

I didnt say Miami hasnt played the same teams I also know Miami isnt any better then a .500 team maybe 9-7. But the Jets and Fat Rex have talked so much shit all year and its nice when they get embarrassed like they did!

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neither they both suck Henne actually has a higher completion %, less ints and a better QB rating so dont go crazy because Sanchez did well 1 or 2 games. I think over all miami has a better team. The jets have just gotten lucky and the dolphins have gotten unlucky this year. I at least see miami for what they are, a .500 or little better team that needs to learn how to play 60 minutes. Jets and their fans have been delusional all year!

What the FUCK are you talking about? Before todays game Henne had 15 INTs to Sanchez's 11. Sanchez also had more TDs.

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Question: Are you allowed to stand like Fireman Ed on the stands like he was? When they showed him standing in the endzone bleachers. Supposed his druken ass fell or something.

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How did your team do today? How did they do last week? You guys talk a lot of shit for a team that is awful. Tell me they arent the worst 9-4 team (they were the worst 9-2 team) ever? Tell me what this team has done this year to say you are impressed by them?

I didnt say Miami hasnt played the same teams I also know Miami isnt any better then a .500 team maybe 9-7. But the Jets and Fat Rex have talked so much shit all year and its nice when they get embarrassed like they did!

The Jets didn't talk any shit going into this game. I haven't talked shit about the Jets at all because I know they are the Jets. But the amount of shit YOU talk, given the fins are 2 games behind the Jets and 1-5 at home is fucking laughable.

Go cook stats, go make sour grapes, but stop with this endless vendetta against the Jets.