2011-12 NFL Season

[NickyL0885]

Maybe the Chargers need to Suck For Luck.

[PapaBear]

settle down premature ejaculator dspy wannabe
I'm sorry, but pulling ahead because of a Norv Turner Chargers loss is too awesome for me to ignore. At this point, I almost don't care if I lose in the end.

[spoon]

oh you will lose

i don't even try picking until like week 10

[spoon]

Maybe the Chargers need to Suck For Luck.

too late, miami and indy aren't getting anywhere close to 4 wins

[spoon]

great

droopy dog has no answers in the press conference

what else is new?!

Time to cut this fuck out.

[cougarjake13]

great

droopy dog has no answers in the press conference

what else is new?!

Time to cut this fuck out.

too bad eli didnt wanna play there or kept brees


hindsight i know

[spoon]

too bad eli didnt wanna play there or kept brees


hindsight i know

I love Brees, always have, but Rivers is not the problem. Sure he's having an off year and all, but it's a team that's a fucking mess, making bad plays, penalties all wrapped up in terrible calls and coaching. If Brees was here, or Manning, it might even be worse and surely no better. Perhap Archie was right, even if the call was based on Marty. SD is a coaching cesspool only topped by teams like Oakland of late, and even they finally got it right this time it seems.

[NickyL0885]

I love Brees, always have, but Rivers is not the problem. Sure he's having an off year and all, but it's a team that's a fucking mess, making bad plays, penalties all wrapped up in terrible calls and coaching. If Brees was here, or Manning, it might even be worse and surely no better. Perhap Archie was right, even if the call was based on Marty. SD is a coaching cesspool only topped by teams like Oakland of late, and even they finally got it right this time it seems.

You're welcomed to join the Jets bandwagon whenever you wish. We have cookies.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You're welcomed to join the Jets bandwagon whenever you wish. We have cookies.

I think Spoon trying to be a Jets fan may be his ultimate troll of me, basically the final punch in the Superman/Doomsday showdown.

[TripleSkeet]

I love Brees, always have, but Rivers is not the problem. Sure he's having an off year and all, but it's a team that's a fucking mess, making bad plays, penalties all wrapped up in terrible calls and coaching. If Brees was here, or Manning, it might even be worse and surely no better. Perhap Archie was right, even if the call was based on Marty. SD is a coaching cesspool only topped by teams like Oakland of late, and even they finally got it right this time it seems.

I was always a fan of Brees, even when he was at Purdue. I remember when McNabb got drafted and people asked what I rather wouldve had I always said I wanted them to draft Ricky Williams, go through another not so great year, and take Brees in the next draft. People laughed at me. Even when he played at SD and I said Id rather have him here they laughed. Then he has a good year or 2 in SD, goes to New Orleans and becomes a superstar.

[Kevin]

Looking back a few years back how awful that Manning trade looked for the Giants.

Rivers was playing great, Merriman was a roided maniac, and Kaeding was pretty good too. Still prob but the injury might hurt him.

Now, not so much.

Just goes to show that you never give a quick verdict on a deal.

[spoon]

I'm sooo glad SD had these two breakdowns on huge stages if I had endure them at all. I can only hope the Spanos family has had enough public embarrassment and will finally make a move. I don't care if it kills this year, time to sack Norv and hell, never let AJ pick a coach or first rounder again.

Time to end this shit and move on. Only problem is, it'll probably get worse.

[spoon]

Looking back a few years back how awful that Manning trade looked for the Giants.

Rivers was playing great, Merriman was a roided maniac, and Kaeding was pretty good too. Still prob but the injury might hurt him.

Now, not so much.

Just goes to show that you never give a quick verdict on a deal.

settle down kev

you're still doing it

[spoon]

That's (sexual) assault brother! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjVz9dCK8wGLikWsExjDHZk5nYcB?slug=ap-patriots-edelmanarrest)

Police were called to the club at about 1:30 a.m. and met a woman who said Edelman, 25, reached under her costume and grabbed her crotch, according to an application for a criminal complaint.

I heard he contracted HPV, his first catch in weeks!

[hanso]

The Bolts...more like static electricity at this point.

[spoon]

Looking back a few years back how awful that Manning trade looked for the Giants.

Rivers was playing great, Merriman was a roided maniac, and Kaeding was pretty good too. Still prob but the injury might hurt him.

Now, not so much.

Just goes to show that you never give a quick verdict on a deal.

Here's a crazy stat I just saw on Kolber and Mortensen's show, NFL32.

Guess who are the top 3 qbs for interceptions since the start of the 2010 season? Obviously there has been a decent amount of transition at the position in that span (so many rookie starters, Farvre in/Favre out, ), including injuries (Peyton).

[spoon]

The Bolts...more like static electricity at this point.

this point!?

more like since Dan Fouts fell into a bowl of Billy Mays beards.

[spoon]

Here's a crazy stat I just saw on Kolber and Mortensen's show, NFL32.

Guess who are the top 3 qbs for interceptions since the start of the 2010 season? Obviously there has been a decent amount of transition at the position in that span (so many rookie starters, Farvre in/Favre out, ), including injuries (Peyton).

Here's the answer, the last three qbs in essence tied to SD not labeled a backup for or 3rd string.

1) Brees with 32 interceptions
2) Eli Manning with 30 interceptions
3) Rivers with 24 interceptions, 11 of which came in the last 7 games and somehow Kevin tied up that trade now with a cute little bow and stupid statements.

[spoon]

Interesting side note though, Brees easily has the most attempts since last year at a whooping 1001 passes made!

Guess who is second on the list with 828. Yah, second is almost 200 attempts less?

[hanso]

that fuck is just collecting a paycheck right now

he's making money waiting to move on and become a tight ends coach elsewhere in the league or something like it

An O-line Guru
(Sparano)

[spoon]

Interesting side note though, Brees easily has the most attempts since last year at a whooping 1001 passes made!

Guess who is second on the list with 828. Yah, second is almost 200 attempts less?

man this place sucks, slow as hell

the answer is Schaub, which shocked me

[spoon]

An O-line Guru
(Sparano)

He was the tight end coach under Coughlin in Jacksonville too. Don't ruin my fear tactics with the Giant fans on the board, bc I heard he's NYG bound!

[Kevin]

Here's the answer, the last three qbs in essence tied to SD not labeled a backup for or 3rd string.

1) Brees with 32 interceptions
2) Eli Manning with 30 interceptions
3) Rivers with 24 interceptions, 11 of which came in the last 7 games and somehow Kevin tied up that trade now with a cute little bow and stupid statements.

1. Alot of Elis 30 picks were his WR stone hands.
2. Rivers is now terrible and looks lost. Can he bounce back, sure, but as of now terrible.
3.Eli has a SB with a far worse supporting cast than Rivers has had in SD

And before you say coaching, Coughlin is pretty damn terrible too.

[Kevin]

And my point that you COMPLETELY missed was..

No matter WHAT Rivers does.

That trade can never be as one sided as it looked in years past.

[spoon]

1. Alot of Elis 30 picks were his WR stone hands.
2. Rivers is now terrible and looks lost. Can he bounce back, sure, but as of now terrible.
3.Eli has a SB with a far worse supporting cast than Rivers has had in SD

And before you say coaching, Coughlin is pretty damn terrible too.

First off, Coughlin makes Norv look like a fool. Second, Rivers had 13 ints last year and his career worst year was 15. Eli crushes this every fucking year, and still may beat him this year as we're only halfway there, not even. Now sum up that their stats are almost identical in terms of yards, completion %, in River's worst year thus far by a mile, and in one of Eli's better starts at this point and you realize you're way off.

If Rivers is "now terrible" versus having a tough start tied to awful play calling, terrible penalties driving them to constant 1st and 15/2nd and 20s, why isn't Eli further from his stats? One is 4-3, the other barely 5-2. SD has lost it's close games, those they actually should have won too. While NY has won the majority of their close games, a few they had no business winning.

Rivers has spent the majority of this year minus both his main targets from last year, Gates (injured and still slowed a lot) and Sproles (left for NO). Tack on his RBs are constantly injured and in and out of the lineup, the line is constantly being shuffled and Norv is still there and you see what he's working with. Is a lot on Rivers, of course, he himself talks about his issues of late trying to do too much, but Gates getting back is huge.

As for the SB, come one, Eli's team was led by the D and SD has never really had a good one. Even last year the stats were a complete farce. They were ok at best, but played a ton of shit in the AFC West, and the NFC West out of conf. Yah, the worst two divisions in the NFL over the last few decades. Claiming a "far worse supporting cast" is completely idiotic. SD never had even the top ranked team in it's conference, much less the league.

[spoon]

And my point that you COMPLETELY missed was..

No matter WHAT Rivers does.

That trade can never be as one sided as it looked in years past.

How was it ever one sided at all?

NY got a franchise qb and a SB almost immediately out of it. SD has been fighting to make it better since that day bc it all comes down to the end result. Rivers will be fine, Kaeding is a kicker so how big could he actually be and the guy you called a roided maniac got in trouble for a tainted sup once and was on the down way before that. He got injured and was never the same.

[Kevin]

How was it ever one sided at all?

NY got a franchise qb and a SB almost immediately out of it. SD has been fighting to make it better since that day bc it all comes down to the end result. Rivers will be fine, Kaeding is a kicker so how big could he actually be and the guy you called a roided maniac got in trouble for a tainted sup once and was on the down way before that. He got injured and was never the same.

You at the time, got a franchise QB who looked much better than Eli.

Then you get a monster LB with one pick

and a very good to great kicker.


Thats pretty damn one sided to me.

[Kevin]

For the 1st 4,5 or so years at least.

[spoon]

You at the time, got a franchise QB who looked much better than Eli.

Then you get a monster LB with one pick

and a very good to great kicker.


Thats pretty damn one sided to me.

SD did!? Then why did Eli go #1 and garner the extra picks? Both got what were believed to be franchise qbs, only Eli was ranked higher, hence his #1 selection.

the kicker was had in the third and is still statistically the most accurate kicker in the history of the NFL, just struggles like the rest of SD in the playoffs. I'm not sure how he's shit now bc he has an injury for the first time in 8 years.

[spoon]

Kev, it's a trade that worked out for both since Eli refused to play in SD. NYG won a title with him at the helm after working with God's second favorite qb, while SD got a nice package and a qb in terms of stats has clearly outplayed Eli. SD fucked themselves by doing nothing to keep or get something for the likes of Brees and Turner. Everyone knew LT was on the back end of the career or worse, yet they let Turner walk for zilch. Brees had an injury sure, but his value was still very high. AJ just pulled the power move on Marty, a guy who LOVED Brees, and just let him walk to spite Marty. I get they needed to make a call in both situations, but you cash out at least. If they let Rivers or LT go it would be insane not to get something for them, but yet we let the others just go.

[Kevin]

The Brees thing was a huge mistake but he did really fuck up his shoulder that last game.

I don't know what you could have gotten for him.

And when you let LT go, he was pretty much on the down side.

Can you argue that they should have traded him sooner? Sure but he was so good at his height and his fall was pretty sudden.

Im not sure what LTs stats where when Turner left, was he on his down side?

[spoon]

The Brees thing was a huge mistake but he did really fuck up his shoulder that last game.

I don't know what you could have gotten for him.

And when you let LT go, he was pretty much on the down side.

Can you argue that they should have traded him sooner? Sure but he was so good at his height and his fall was pretty sudden.

Im not sure what LTs stats where when Turner left, was he on his down side?

he was close to 30 and had failed in some big games/started getting injured often

basically he was showing clear signs of winding down and not being able to even come close to running bt the tackles any longer, much less out class people around the edges

in essence, he was average at best on a team that throws first with Norv vs run-centric Marty

[spoon]

I look at it much the same Indy fans need to look at Peyton and Luck. To pass on Luck would be completely idiotic, and let's be fair, Peyton is at the tail end of an awesome statistical career/good overall with the one title and some playoff success. Bottom line is, Peyton is LT, Turner was Luck, only Turner was much more proven in the NFL. I know this is a stretch to say the least, but it can't be perfect.

[Kevin]

Tim Tebow's shit game yesterday has inspired a new meme. Every article on him on ESPN is now being bombarded with comments that follow the form "[very awful thing] > Tebow". Some examples:



Those are just the first 5 comments from the latest article, but this has been going on all night on different articles. They're getting bombarded.

Fucking hilarious.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/34680/time-for-elway-to-think-post-tebow

Rebooting the Back To The Future franchise with the plot centered around getting Tebow's mom to have an abortion > Tebow

Wow that had me dying.

[KnoxHarrington]

Rebooting the Back To The Future franchise with the plot centered around getting Tebow's mom to have an abortion > Tebow

Wow that had me dying.

I just checked; that damn thread is still going strong. I'm surprised ESPN hasn't pulled it.

[Snoogans]

I just checked; that damn thread is still going strong. I'm surprised ESPN hasn't pulled it.

deadspin reported how mods were deleting shit. so now commenters are just FLOODING it. Put hte comments on live, they are popping up like 10 per second

[TripleSkeet]

Whats the link?

[Snoogans]

Whats the link?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/34680/time-for-elway-to-think-post-tebow

[Snoogans]

best one ive seen so far:

그들의 발가락에 그들을 유지하기 위해 한국어로 너무 즐거운 타이핑 물건에도 불구하고 일하러 가야 필요 > Tebow

[Snoogans]

Jimmy Leyritz's chances of opening a defensive driving school > Tebow

[cougarjake13]

As for the SB, come one, Eli's team was led by the D and SD has never really had a good one. Even last year the stats were a complete farce. They were ok at best, but played a ton of shit in the AFC West, and the NFC West out of conf. Yah, the worst two divisions in the NFL over the last few decades. Claiming a "far worse supporting cast" is completely idiotic. SD never had even the top ranked team in it's conference, much less the league.

led yes but up 10-7 that d gave up a touchdown with not much time left on clock and eli led the team down the field and threw the game winning td

so he most def had a hand in winning that super bowl


and his point i believe in worst supporting cast is peoples perceptions are that LT, gates, jackson among others were and are better then plax, toomer, jacobs, boss and others


the bigger point to make is that san diego was contending with their supposed better cast against a in their prime or best patriots, colts and steelers while the giants were fortunate to not have to navigate through that tough of a conference on their way to a title

[cougarjake13]

I look at it much the same Indy fans need to look at Peyton and Luck. To pass on Luck would be completely idiotic, and let's be fair, Peyton is at the tail end of an awesome statistical career/good overall with the one title and some playoff success. Bottom line is, Peyton is LT, Turner was Luck, only Turner was much more proven in the NFL. I know this is a stretch to say the least, but it can't be perfect.

if this was 3 or 4 yrs from now this would be perfect, draft luck and let him understudy peyton for 2 yrs and peyton retires

but at 35 i dont see peyton retiring any time soon unless that injury is real bad and career threatening

[TripleSkeet]

if this was 3 or 4 yrs from now this would be perfect, draft luck and let him understudy peyton for 2 yrs and peyton retires

but at 35 i dont see peyton retiring any time soon unless that injury is real bad and career threatening

I wouldnt be surprised if they draft him. His career has mirrored Favres so much its scary.

- Ironman streak
- Won a Superbowl
- Lost a Superbowl
- Future HOFer

All they need now is to draft a replacement, watch Manning hold onto the job even longer then they expected, then go to another team, do pretty good, text pictures of his cock to some piece of ass reporter, and retire.

[hanso]

Or they could trade away the pick. Maybe they win a game or two and don't get it.

[weekapaugjz]

where the fuck was sanchez throwing that ball?

[Snoogans]

come on guys. clearly sanchez isnt bad

[Snoogans]

Red Zone is ruining the NFL for me. I never realized how much every team fuckin sucks

[spoon]

wow this nyj/buf game is awful

so is the sf/wash

add to that list sea/dal



ok, shaun is right

wow

[Snoogans]

parody blows. i dont give a fuck if 25 teams blow, as long as some teams are actually good. I dont want 32 below average teams runnin around dickslappin every week. LET THEM SPEND WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY ALL MAKE A TON OF CASH. KNOCK OFF THIS CAP NONSENSE

[weekapaugjz]

the bills have no business still being in this game.

and good one sanchez!

[spoon]

parody blows. i dont give a fuck if 25 teams blow, as long as some teams are actually good. I dont want 32 below average teams runnin around dickslappin every week. LET THEM SPEND WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY ALL MAKE A TON OF CASH. KNOCK OFF THIS CAP NONSENSE

it's not parity, it's awful coaching overall

There are lesser players in college and games are much more crisp and well coached overall. The NFL to me seems like a huge fraternity of shit coaches over the last few years constantly recycled as we see with fallen ceo's in business.

I do NOT need to see bs like the MLB has become, bc frankly I like being able to have some semblance of interest in games outside of the top teams that actually have top players with an identity.

[Snoogans]

it's not parity, it's awful coaching overall

There are lesser players in college and games are much more crisp and well coached overall. The NFL to me seems like a huge fraternity of shit coaches over the last few years constantly recycled as we see with fallen ceo's in business.

I do NOT need to see bs like the MLB has become, bc frankly I like being able to have some semblance of interest in games outside of the top teams that actually have top players with an identity.

yea but the MLB doesnt share the revenue the NFL has. In NFL, they all have enough money to spend the same shit. They all make tons. So if a team did blow, it would only be on the owner

[spoon]

even the coaches with decent skills and tools to use are so conservative as to keep themselves close in every game versus breaking out

For every Harbaugh in SF getting hired, there are 3 Norv, Shannahan and Fox's coaching once again in new locations. Fucking ART SHELL got a second shot! ART SHELL.

[Snoogans]

even the coaches with decent skills and tools to use are so conservative as to keep themselves close in every game versus breaking out

For every Harbaugh in SF getting hired, there are 3 Norv, Shannahan and Fox's coaching once again in new locations. Fucking ART SHELL got a second shot! ART SHELL.

you could always put on CBS and watch the best coach ever, Rex Ryan

[weekapaugjz]

even the coaches with decent skills and tools to use are so conservative as to keep themselves close in every game versus breaking out

this is what kills interest for me in the nfl.

[spoon]

yea but the MLB doesnt share the revenue the NFL has. In NFL, they all have enough money to spend the same shit. They all make tons. So if a team did blow, it would only be on the owner

rev sharing went down again with this last contact I believe

and I don't think it's the answer in any way

again, there is plenty of talent on most teams

[Snoogans]

this is what kills interest for me in the nfl.

its like madden. when you play madden, they do that shit. you get up 20-25 in the 3rd, all of a sudden, you cant stop shit, you cant get a fuckin first down. Goodell musta added the EA fuck you game code in the CBA

[TripleSkeet]

I personally would like to see them contract by a team or two. Theres no reason a city like Jacksonville should have an NFL franchise.

[Snoogans]

I personally would like to see them contract by a team or two. Theres no reason a city like Jacksonville should have an NFL franchise.

you are right about jax, but the NFL doesnt have a team that loses money. so contraction makes no sense, just move them somewhere else. LA probably for Jax, just move teams to bigger cities with younger populations and they will do fine.

The NFL would never do it, but if i was them id put one in Vegas. Same for hte NBA. You would sell it out even if you didnt have a fan base just from casinos buyin them for comps.

also, another place you could move a football team where i think it would be MASSIVE. Portland. They would fuckin support the fuck outta any pro team you put there. They are nuts up there

[spoon]

http://urchinmovement.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/creation-museum-1.jpg

[weekapaugjz]

if sanchez was a half decent quarterback, the jets would be up at least 27-0 at this point.

this game fucking blows.

[spoon]

it really is amazing what revis is allotted in terms of contact, and how little it takes for holmes to cry and get a call every fucking week

he literally cries after every damn pass in his direction as if he was raped. that mcgee call was pretty fucking weak in my mind, but buf does deserve to lose

still simms is AWFUL and so biased it's pathetic

[Kevin]

Both teams are awful

[spoon]

SD and Rivers lost to a team that just made Matt Moore look like an MVP candidate on the road.

So glad I picked up their D to get me some points this week!

F!

[weekapaugjz]

sanchez just flinched like a bitch.

[underdog]

http://urchinmovement.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/creation-museum-1.jpg

I was just saying today how I don't believe in dinosaurs.

[spoon]

sanchez just flinched like a bitch.

WHAT THE FUCK was he doing blocking on the edge of a game all wrapped up? What a DUMB fucking play call, or at least the player in the play in a position he normally has no business being at in a close game, much less one that's fucking over.

That play won't be touched much outside of Sanchez looking like a bitch, but it really was pretty stupid.

[spoon]

I was just saying today how I don't believe in dinosaurs.

Well then, how did kids back THOUSANDS of years ago get to white jesus church?

http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2007/dinosaur-saddle.jpg

[Snacks]

you are right about jax, but the NFL doesnt have a team that loses money. so contraction makes no sense, just move them somewhere else. LA probably for Jax, just move teams to bigger cities with younger populations and they will do fine.

The NFL would never do it, but if i was them id put one in Vegas. Same for hte NBA. You would sell it out even if you didnt have a fan base just from casinos buyin them for comps.

also, another place you could move a football team where i think it would be MASSIVE. Portland. They would fuckin support the fuck outta any pro team you put there. They are nuts up there

I would love to see an NFL team in Las Vegas but agreed that will never happen. Dont be surprised if the NBA does it though. I think there is a shot of that happening. The NBA has had an all star game there and with the avg NBA salary being $5 million the worry about point shaving isnt as much as in the NFL where careers are shorter and many players even starters make only $400k

[spoon]

Go Miami!

[A.J.]

you are right about jax, but the NFL doesnt have a team that loses money. so contraction makes no sense, just move them somewhere else. LA probably for Jax, just move teams to bigger cities with younger populations and they will do fine.

The NFL would never do it, but if i was them id put one in Vegas. Same for hte NBA. You would sell it out even if you didnt have a fan base just from casinos buyin them for comps.

also, another place you could move a football team where i think it would be MASSIVE. Portland. They would fuckin support the fuck outta any pro team you put there. They are nuts up there

Fuck football contraction. Give me back my Whalers!

[spoon]

Fuck football contraction. Give me back my Whalers!

that you have to know will never happen, unless it's the quebec whalers or something in Canada or elsewhere bc hockey is done in CT

there are just way too many teams to compete with in such a small area

[A.J.]

I can still dream dammit!

[spoon]

hey, you can always fall back on these guys

http://whalerwatch.com/DANBURY_WHALERS2.jpg


and it's seemingly perfect for you as they play in the federal league!

[underdog]

I've seen so many teams try a run on 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 today, and I think they've all failed.

[A.J.]

hey, you can always fall back on these guys

http://whalerwatch.com/DANBURY_WHALERS2.jpg


and it's seemingly perfect for you as they play in the federal league!

How appropriate: the city with a Federal Prison plays in the Federal League.

I never even knew Danbury had a rink. I've been gone from CT a long time!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Throwing an int and some of the most limpwristed tackling I've ever seen, but yes, all Norv's fault.

[spoon]

Throwing an int and some of the most limpwristed tackling I've ever seen, but yes, all Norv's fault.

yes, it is

I won't waste my time explaining anything to you bc you simply don't have the capacity to process it. You've clearly this proven time and time again.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Of course, the best part about the Rivers pick6 is Tebow leading his team down the field and hitting a laser strike for 6 at the same time. Boom.

[spoon]

yes, boom 5 minutes proves all

perfect

[Tenbatsuzen]

Pick 12!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Followed by a Tom Brady INT!

HOLY SHIT REDZONE IS BETTER THAN PLAYBOY CHANNEL

[spoon]

and on top of all your idiotic points, you fail to see plenty have been on Rivers including me

yet it all stems back to the coach, but again, you'll defend an idiotic point just bc you want to see others be wrong, not bc they are at the time (proving the opposite)

[Tenbatsuzen]

and on top of all your idiotic points, you fail to see plenty have been on Rivers including me

yet it all stems back to the coach, but again, you'll defend an idiotic point just bc you want to see others be wrong, not bc they are at the time (proving the opposite)

So Rivers throws an INT = Norv's fault.

Sanchez throws an INT = Sanchez sucks.

Got it, thanks.

[Snacks]

and on top of all your idiotic points, you fail to see plenty have been on Rivers including me

yet it all stems back to the coach, but again, you'll defend an idiotic point just bc you want to see others be wrong, not bc they are at the time (proving the opposite)

Rivers is killing me. I have Rodgers and Nelson and they arent getting any points because your boy is throwing pick 6's. I even cut the packers defense because I thought SD would put up a lot of points on them. WTF is wrong with SD? They are my AFC super bowl pick. Actually I think I picked this as my SB match up. Not happy right now spoon!!!

[Kevin]

Apparently the Giants are the only team in the NFL that can't throw against this awful bum Pats Pass D.

Terrible play calls.

[Snacks]

So Rivers throws an INT = Norv's fault.

Sanchez throws an INT = Sanchez sucks.

Got it, thanks.

Hes not completely saying its Norvs fault. Rivers is having a down year and that is his fault but what he is saying is that a lot has to do with the plays called, the preparation, the nervousness of their coach rubbing off on their team and 4+ years of the coach now losing the team because of all this. Add to that injuries and lost players and Rivers having 1 of those bad years that every QB has. But Rivers is a proven stud. Sanchez has been nothing but a proven piece of shit. Never has Sanchez in 3 years been good or looked good. He has been carried by his team 90% and 10% because teams let them win to get in to the playoffs.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Sanchez-is-scared-3.gif

[spoon]

So Rivers throws an INT = Norv's fault.

Sanchez throws an INT = Sanchez sucks.

Got it, thanks.

Nope.

That's idiotic of course, and to be expected out of you. Just keep making up your own points for others bc it's the only way you ever win an argument...against yourself.

[Kevin]

Boy any pressure on Brady and he turns into Gisele out there.

[spoon]

So Rivers throws an INT = Norv's fault.

Sanchez throws an INT = Sanchez sucks.

Got it, thanks.

I'll play a round of idiot asshole with Tenbats for a second. Here's his take on qbs.

Tebow = good, athletic and gifted at qb bc he just threw a td in the past few plays against the Raiders and bc the very coaches who start him are against him and his awesome talents. I has nothing to do with his play ON the field, that lack of NFL ability to read defenses and lead a team, and surely nothing to do with his lack of any success on this level. But he won in college right, and you just want to see people be wrong and join the world you constantly live in.

[spoon]

Rivers throws in an int = not one person didn't put blame on Rivers, but Tenbats will just state anything as if it's fact and roll with it. Rivers has a long history of playing well on the NFL level, has clearly been off this year, but it's not just on him. Overall the team is a mess and not prepared bc of a coach that DOES suck, has a history of sucking in the NFL as a HC and has clearly lost this team too. Let's not factor this in at all, let's just say it's the qb with a good history of playing his position at every level. Is he off this year, of course and anyone who claims differently is off as well.

Sanchez plays his position badly for years in the NFL = he's below average and is actually helping hold down the Jets to any unbiased fan. Yet you're claiming over the years we've watched this guy he's what? Bc if it's anything more than an average qb at best you're more insane than I thought.

[spoon]

not to mention Rivers is getting so little protection this year it's truly embarrassing

that too has little to do with coaching and is clearly River's fault

sure he can move coverage around, but it's not his place to prep them, design schemes and send in the original play calling/protection schemes

[Snacks]

Tebow started off the game 3-4 with a td (btw the guy was wide open and he threw it too low instead of leading him). since then hes 3 for 10 and is a total of 6-14 for 48 yards. STUD!!!!!

[Kevin]

I Have not watched enough of Rivers to really see what the hell is going on.

What I have watched is him being terrible, but it has not been enough of a sample.

He is however KILLING my fantasy team.

I keep playing him over Cam thinking he will get it together and Cam will come back down to earth, but its been awful.

[spoon]

if you watch him throw, how awful it looks and his mechanics and you can't argue he looks terrible

but he threw a td in the first qtr against oakland, wrap it up...another first ballot HOF player Canton bound

[Kevin]

If this Giant offensive performance isn't proof that Hakeem Nicks and Ahmad Bradshaw are first Ballot HOFs than i don't know what is.

[spoon]

If this Giant offensive performance isn't proof that Hakeem Nicks and Ahmad Bradshaw are first Ballot HOFs than i don't know what is.

perfect

[Snacks]

Punch Brady in the mouth early on and he becomes a pussy. This is how the NYG won that super bowl and it was all set up during that last game of the season. Even though they lost they proved something to themselves and they knocked him around in both games!

Now if this shit, boring team could score. NE has the worst defense in the league wtf is wrong with the giants? Stop trying to run fat, slow Jacobs and throw the god damn ball!

[Kevin]

Punch Brady in the mouth early on and he becomes a pussy. This is how the NYG won that super bowl and it was all set up during that last game of the season. Even though they lost they proved something to themselves and they knocked him around in both games!

Now if this shit, boring team could score. NE has the worst defense in the league wtf is wrong with the giants? Stop trying to run fat, slow Jacobs and throw the god damn ball!

Everytime they throw it down field they hit.

But Coughlin and Gilbride are terrible

[sailor]

Punch Brady in the mouth early on and he becomes a pussy. This is how the NYG won that super bowl and it was all set up during that last game of the season. Even though they lost they proved something to themselves and they knocked him around in both games!

Now if this shit, boring team could score. NE has the worst defense in the league wtf is wrong with the giants? Stop trying to run fat, slow Jacobs and throw the god damn ball!

Brady wasn't great, but he had an ok game: 29/48 266 1 TD 0 int

TD Jacobs!

[spoon]

i need this nyg/ne game to open up fast!

manning needs to get a rushing td or 2 passing tds and NE's kicker needs to make his f'n fgs

[spoon]

really starting to look like palmer and the raiders are going to end this week alone in first

who would have thought KC would fall to the phins...sd to gb sure, but not the chiefs losing at home vs miami

[spoon]

BJGE scoring would be swell too!

[Crash]

i need this nyg/ne game to open up fast!

manning needs to get a rushing td or 2 passing tds and NE's kicker needs to make his f'n fgs

This (kind of).

I had a choice between Roethlisberger against the Raven's D or Manning against the Patriots D. I went with Manning.

Doe-eyed aw-shucks mother fucker better step up.

[spoon]

what a pass and catch for oakland

[Kevin]

Ross is still a fucking faggot

[Kevin]

Catch The Ball

[spoon]

HOLY SHIT!?!

SD and Rivers threw to the kid Brown!

ABOUT TIME!

[Crash]

Jesus Christ! Can these mother fuckers hold onto a ball??!!??

[For our out of state members, I'm talking about the Giants/Patriots game]

[Kevin]

Terrible play calling

THROW THE GODDAMN BALL

[Crash]

Jesus Christ! Can these mother fuckers hold onto a ball??!!??

[For our out of state members, I'm talking about the Giants/Patriots game]

Giants recover a fumble. Fourth turnover by the Patriots.

[spoon]

great week for edelman

[spoon]

Come On Manning...you too Clayton!

[Kevin]

Really Eli?

REALLY?

[Crash]

Eli Manning blows.

There...I said it.

[spoon]

Really Eli?

REALLY?

such a dumb couple of plays by Manning there

[spoon]

dalton and green, how impressive are these two so far as rookies


if only tebow went to that awesome hotbed for football in Cincy. he'd surely be undefeated if Dalton can pull this off. Right?!

:lol:

[spoon]

real injury?

giants might have thrown a hug win away here, sd style!

[epo]

Watching my team is fun.

[spoon]

Watching my team is fun.

i do not concur :surrender:

[Kevin]

Good work Eli turn at least a 10pt lead to a tie on two Sanchezian plays.

[Crash]

Good work Eli turn at least a 10pt lead to a tie on two Sanchezian plays.

At least Sanchez has a defense to cover for him.

[spoon]

At least Sanchez has a defense to cover for him.

I'd hardly blame the D in this game for the Giants.

[sailor]

really starting to look like palmer and the raiders are going to end this week alone in first

who would have thought KC would fall to the phins...sd to gb sure, but not the chiefs losing at home vs miami

Not so fast apparently. And the chiefs are a complete mystery to me. I can't figure out how bad or good they are.

[epo]

i do not concur :surrender:

Watch harder. It's a lot of fun.

[spoon]

Watch harder. It's a lot of fun.

shut your face

any other week I enjoy watching them, just not this week...unless it's the final nail in Norv's coaching career! then I love this!

[spoon]

Not so fast apparently. And the chiefs are a complete mystery to me. I can't figure out how bad or good they are.

normally I'd HAVE to root for Denver to win this week, i just don't want to hear Tbat's try to use it as proof Tebow is the second coming of Steve Young

i was actually hoping to jinx your dirty team

[epo]

shut your face

any other week I enjoy watching them, just not this week...unless it's the final nail in Norv's coaching career! then I love this!

We did end Wade Phillips last year. There's plenty of time for a couple more bad turnovers to injure Norv.

[Kevin]

Hey fatbride HAVE THEM THROW THE GODDAMN BALL

[Snacks]

GB looks better then the NE team that lost to the NYG in the Super Bowl. They dont seem to try to run it up like NE did. That year NE did every thing they could to be hated yet GB is just playing, not quitting but not trying to run it up. Its an amazing thing to watch.

I have Rodgers in 1 of my leagues and he has 38 points even though their defense scored 2 tds. You would think he would have had a lesser game but no they are just nasty.

[spoon]

kevin's insults are awful

[spoon]

like this game



oh and what is the final going to be in this one, 52-38? Wtf!?

[Snacks]

like this game



oh and what is the final going to be in this one, 52-38? Wtf!?

If Rivers can compose himself the rest of the season and they play a little better, how great would GB vs SD super bowl be?

[Crash]

I'd hardly blame the D in this game for the Giants.

Agree entirely. Just that the Jets D held a very good Buffalo team to 11 points and the Patriots are already at 13. But it doesn't really equate, I agree.

[spoon]

Barden is dangerous holding that ball with one hand all the time and never wrapping up at the end of plays.

[Snacks]

SD onside kick recovered by sd!!!

This is a great game and if they score here they are only down 1 td with 4 or 5 mins left

edit, im sorry down 1 td with 6:32 left. that was quick. V JAX is a beast!!!

[spoon]

Yes with the Manning td pass, and YES on the onside kick recovery.

Indeed epo, this game is getting better as I continue to watch harder!




Don't worry, SD will lose.

[epo]

Really nice throw by Rivers. Good TD

[Kevin]

What the hell did Manningham do to get a penalty?

[Snacks]

What the hell did Manningham do to get a penalty?

trash talked directly in the face of his defender. that is now a penalty in the nfl. i hate those calls but that was obvious.

[Snacks]

SD will be getting great field position only down 7 with 5 mins left.

[epo]

I understand why the ref called the penalty, but what bullshit.

[spoon]

the bigger bullshit was how Norv almost didn't convert 2nd and 1!

thanks refs! any chance you're looking into a coaching position?

[spoon]

man this loss will really sting if it holds ups

[Snacks]

is this a giants home game or what? seems to be a lot of giants fans screaming "
cruuuuuzzz" every time he catches the ball and there seems to be a lot of cheers when other giants do well.

[sailor]

normally I'd HAVE to root for Denver to win this week, i just don't want to hear Tbat's try to use it as proof Tebow is the second coming of Steve Young

i was actually hoping to jinx your dirty team

they continue to be horrid against the run. they deserved to lose.

[epo]

Holy stupid penalty by Jammer.

[Snacks]

go after chung he is in and now hurt. does the giants offensive cord watch whats going on?

[spoon]

man eli likes tossing it up for grabs style off his back foot

[Snacks]

that last throw was terrible too but it may have been a great move because of pass interference.

[spoon]

wow pats!

there's that bad D!

[Snacks]

that fat fuck couldnt reach?

[Snacks]

wow what a great game. good job by eli.

[spoon]

eli, RUN IT IN for an SD fan you basically told to fuck off bc daddy said so

DO IT!

[Crash]

Ballsey call by the Giants!

[Kevin]

EAT A DICK TOM BRADY.

Whooooo

[spoon]

YAH!

fu new england

[spoon]

it's amazing to me how the giants seem to kill all the streaks New England ever has going!

home win streak, GONE!

[spoon]

holy f that was dangerous Rivers...but it worked!

[underdog]

is this a giants home game or what? seems to be a lot of giants fans screaming "
cruuuuuzzz" every time he catches the ball and there seems to be a lot of cheers when other giants do well.

There are a ton of Giants fans in New England.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Norv's fault!

[Crash]

Green Bay just put a cap on it.

Pack 8 and 0.

[Tenbatsuzen]

"Now, listen, Phillip, I want you to throw a weak-ass spiral into double coverage. It'll work. Trust me."

[spoon]

Norv's fault!

still needs to go

you nailed it for once

giving up 45 pts and having to come back from multiple scores, NOTHING to do with coaching

NOTHING!

[underdog]

Holy fuck! 98yd punt return to win the game in Arizona! That was retarded.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RodgersStFrm2-300x169.png

[Snacks]

This loss is terrible after a nice comeback by Rivers, I blame that last throw 100% on him. Does Rivers now throw the ball blind? He seems to be whipping the ball and not looking at where he is throwing it. It looked more like he turns his head now. WTF is that?

[spoon]

"Now, listen, Phillip, I want you to throw a weak-ass spiral into double coverage. It'll work. Trust me."

Or perhaps, we lose no matter what and time is almost out so we have to take chances.

But no, continue to come in whenever you think something builds your bs arguments against yourself.

Norv must go. If you think otherwise, you're a tenbats fool.

[spoon]

This loss is terrible after a nice comeback by Rivers, I blame that last throw 100% on him. Does Rivers now throw the ball blind? He seems to be whipping the ball and not looking at where he is throwing it. It looked more like he turns his head now. WTF is that?

he's coached terribly, ask norvbats

[Tenbatsuzen]

Strahan's reaction on the FOX NFL set may have topped Reynolds' reaction on MLB TV on Night 162.

[TripleSkeet]

I dont want to get in the middle of this argument, but if you really cant tell how AWFUL a head coach Norv Turner is, youre fucking blind and know nothing about football. The man has never accomplished ANYTHING as a head coach in the NFL. Not one thing. How he not only has a job but continues to get hired after losing his jobs is baffling to me.

Just like Wade Phillips, Dave Wandtstet, John Fox, Dom Capers, and others of that ilk, he has no business being the head coach of a an NFL team. And all owners do when they recycle these shitbox coaches is keep qualified younger coaches from getting their shot for more and more years.

The guy is a terrible head coach. Try all you want there is no logical argument you can come up with to prove otherwise.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I dont want to get in the middle of this argument, but if you really cant tell how AWFUL a head coach Norv Turner is, youre fucking blind and know nothing about football. The man has never accomplished ANYTHING as a head coach in the NFL. Not one thing. How he not only has a job but continues to get hired after losing his jobs is baffling to me.

Just like Wade Phillips, Dave Wandtstet, John Fox, Dom Capers, and others of that ilk, he has no business being the head coach of a an NFL team. And all owners do when they recycle these shitbox coaches is keep qualified younger coaches from getting their shot for more and more years.

The guy is a terrible head coach. Try all you want there is no logical argument you can come up with to prove otherwise.

My argument has never been that Norv is a shitty coach. I understand this. It's always been that it's dumb to blame Rivers' piss-poor play ON Norv.

Norv is a shitty coach, but he's not the one telling Rivers it's OK to throw into double coverage.

[spoon]

My argument has never been that Norv is a shitty coach. I understand this. It's always been that it's dumb to blame Rivers' piss-poor play ON Norv.

Norv is a shitty coach, but he's not the one telling Rivers it's OK to throw into double coverage.

you're a complete fool

congrats

[Kevin]

you're a complete fool

congrats

Im sure mombats is very proud.

[TripleSkeet]

My argument has never been that Norv is a shitty coach. I understand this. It's always been that it's dumb to blame Rivers' piss-poor play ON Norv.

Norv is a shitty coach, but he's not the one telling Rivers it's OK to throw into double coverage.

I get what youre saying, I do, but then I see what Donovan McNabb, Kevin Kolb and AJ Feely have become after leaving Andy Reid. I still stand firm that as a gameday coach his adaptability to game situations and time management sucks a fat dick, but he seems pretty good at being a coach that gets the most out of his quarterbacks as he can.

Could Norv do the same? I doubt it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I get what youre saying, I do, but then I see what Donovan McNabb, Kevin Kolb and AJ Feely have become after leaving Andy Reid. I still stand firm that as a gameday coach his adaptability to game situations and time management sucks a fat dick, but he seems pretty good at being a coach that gets the most out of his quarterbacks as he can.

Could Norv do the same? I doubt it.

You forgot the Detmers too

[hanso]

Sounds like AL adds a T when saying Billy Cundiff.

[epo]

Rivers is an amazingly talented QB who is making awful decisions. It kind of reminds me of when Gunslinger#4 played in GB and was coached by Mike Sherman. He was sloppy and made horrible decisions.

Then Sherman was fired and replaced by McCarthy. Gunslinger#4 got better at fundamentals and decision-making under McCarthy.

The point of this is, yes Rivers is making bad decisions, but Norv is clearly allowing them. They need a stronger head coach who understands how to push Rivers and his talent in the right direction.

[spoon]

Rivers is an amazingly talented QB who is making awful decisions. It kind of reminds me of when Gunslinger#4 played in GB and was coached by Mike Sherman. He was sloppy and made horrible decisions.

Then Sherman was fired and replaced by McCarthy. Gunslinger#4 got better at fundamentals and decision-making under McCarthy.

The point of this is, yes Rivers is making bad decisions, but Norv is clearly allowing them. They need a stronger head coach who understands how to push Rivers and his talent in the right direction.

Funny you should say this, bc I just had this convo with my uncle who is a gb fan during today's game. I'd go even further and say that Norv actually promotes this type offense in the face of his inability to get a solid running game going and constantly falling behind by multiple scores. It's an offense loaded up with a huge amount of deep passing plays called and very little control overall at this point.

[Snoogans]

it's amazing to me how the giants seem to kill all the streaks New England ever has going!

home win streak, GONE!

that streak was fuckin bullshit anyway. The last 2 playoff games the Pats lost were both in New England. I love how they just dont count that

[TripleSkeet]

You forgot the Detmers too

Ty never played under Reid. And I dont think Koy started more then 1-2 games for him.

[spoon]

that streak was fuckin bullshit anyway. The last 2 playoff games the Pats lost were both in New England. I love how they just dont count that

that's why it's a regular season record

[Snoogans]

btw, tenbatz, does today prove the point we made to you? 117 yards rushing for tebow, and a terrible day passing. That just PROVES he has the athletic ability and not the mind.

[Kevin]

that streak was fuckin bullshit anyway. The last 2 playoff games the Pats lost were both in New England. I love how they just dont count that

Tom Brady has that look on his face that says we are not losing to the NY Giants at home today..

Good call Bucks.

[Snoogans]

that's why it's a regular season record

yea but ESPN and the like were talkin about it as if it was a streak, period. they never even said regular season win streak. they just called it the Home win streak and acted like the pats are unbeatable there.

[epo]

Funny you should say this, bc I just had this convo with my uncle who is a gb fan during today's game. I'd go even further and say that Norv actually promotes this type offense in the face of his inability to get a solid running game going and constantly falling behind by multiple scores. It's an offense loaded up with a huge amount of deep passing plays called and very little control overall at this point.

Its funny, because I thought that RB Tolbert was killing us. I'm not sure why Norv decided to get into a track meet with the Packers from the beginning when the way to beat GB is to keep Rodgers off the field.

[Kevin]

Its funny, because I thought that RB Tolbert was killing us. I'm not sure why Norv decided to get into a track meet with the Packers from the beginning when the way to beat GB is to keep Rodgers off the field.

Are you going to be like the Rams and win it on just pure offense?

Because your defense is HORRID.

[spoon]

btw, tenbatz, does today prove the point we made to you? 117 yards rushing for tebow, and a terrible day passing. That just PROVES he has the athletic ability and not the mind.

oh God, why did you just ask this question?

you KNOW he's not going to see it that way simply bc he wants someone to be wrong

[spoon]

Its funny, because I thought that RB Tolbert was killing us. I'm not sure why Norv decided to get into a track meet with the Packers from the beginning when the way to beat GB is to keep Rodgers off the field.

He and Rivers decided to keep him off early by doing his work for him.

[spoon]

Are you going to be like the Rams and win it on just pure offense?

Because your defense is HORRID.

Let's be honest, there aren't many decent defenses out there

especially with the way the rules have changed to help passing in today's game, unless you're a gay island

[Kevin]

Let's be honest, there aren't many decent defenses out there

especially with the way the rules have changed to help passing in today's game, unless you're a gay island

I understand that but they have given up ALOT of points.

And Revis and Holmes get some gay calls.

[Snoogans]

oh God, why did you just ask this question?

you KNOW he's not going to see it that way simply bc he wants someone to be wrong

shhhhhh. we were having so much fun with him. I wanna get him going again.

Besides, his whole lifes goal right now is to make us look like assholes

[Snoogans]

Let's be honest, there aren't many decent defenses out there

especially with the way the rules have changed to help passing in today's game, unless you're a gay island

I understand that but they have given up ALOT of points.

And Revis and Holmes get some gay calls.

hey hey hey, revis doesnt ever commit pass interference. did they throw a flag? no



hang up now, derrell

[spoon]

hey hey hey, revis doesnt ever commit pass interference. did they throw a flag? no



hang up now, derrell


revis gets away with as much contact as fucking Sandusky (until this week of course)

[epo]

Are you going to be like the Rams and win it on just pure offense?

Because your defense is HORRID.

It could be.

Mind you, right now they are missing a starting DE, have missed a starting CB, will be without an all-pro Safety and have a bunch of other injuries. Its not an excuse in the NFL, but it explains why they are playing so reckless right now on defense.

I'd bet once they get a little healthier Dom Capers (good defensive coordinator, bad head coach) will evolve the D to something a little more traditional.

[Snoogans]

revis gets away with as much contact as fucking Sandusky (until this week of course)

holy shit thats fuckin funny

the sickest part of that shit is the AD and that other dude gettin indicted for Purjury. why the fuck would you lie to protect a fuckin kid toucher?

[Snoogans]

It could be.

Mind you, right now they are missing a starting DE, have missed a starting CB, will be without an all-pro Safety and have a bunch of other injuries. Its not an excuse in the NFL, but it explains why they are playing so reckless right now on defense.

I'd bet once they get a little healthier Dom Capers (good defensive coordinator, bad head coach) will evolve the D to something a little more traditional.

you should call al harris, he was great the last game he played for GB

[Kevin]

you should call al harris, he was great the last game he played for GB

SOME ONE GET HIM HELP SOMEONE HELP HIM.

[spoon]

It could be.

Mind you, right now they are missing a starting DE, have missed a starting CB, will be without an all-pro Safety and have a bunch of other injuries. Its not an excuse in the NFL, but it explains why they are playing so reckless right now on defense.

I'd bet once they get a little healthier Dom Capers (good defensive coordinator, bad head coach) will evolve the D to something a little more traditional.

Not to mention they are usually way out in the lead and teams are playing tecmo bowl against GB just to have a shot. I wouldn't really worry too much until someone even has a good shot at beating them, bc today was just a stupid team trying to look real and simply aren't.

[epo]

you should call al harris, he was great the last game he played for GB

Only if Aaron Rouse isn't available.

[Snoogans]

norvbatzfoolzen.....awesome

[Snoogans]

Only if Aaron Rouse isn't available.

you mean the aaron rouse who now has a ring......from the UFL with CHAMPIONSHIP coach Marty Schottenheimer?

[spoon]

holy shit thats fuckin funny

the sickest part of that shit is the AD and that other dude gettin indicted for Purjury. why the fuck would you lie to protect a fuckin kid toucher?

I've yet to discuss this with my buddy who played for PSU in late 90's under both Sandusky and Paterno. He was an O line guy and probably had limited contact with him, but I just want to get his rundown on Sandusky and his relationship with the players and coaches. And of course if he's available for bar and bat mitzvahs!

[Snoogans]

I've yet to discuss this with my buddy who played for PSU in late 90's under both Sandusky and Paterno. He was an O line guy and probably had limited contact with him, but I just want to get his rundown on him and his relationship with the players and coaches. And of course if he's available for bar and bat mitzvahs!

i forgot about that. thats fuckin crazy. They just put on deadspin that these fucks had Sandusky running a penn state football camp for kids up until 2009. Being they all seemed to know, and not care, is joe pa, by default, a kid toucher?


NAMBLA man?

incase it reads that way, i dont even mean that to be funny. If you know someone is touching kids and you dont say shit, you are just as fuckin bad

[underdog]

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[Snoogans]

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OVERNIGHT FUCKIN CAMPS. THESE COCKSUCKERS KNEW WHAT HE WAS FUCKIN DOIN AND THEN LIED TO THE FEDS ABOUT IT


I have never said this. Ive seen alot of shit over the years. SMU deserved exactly what they got. Miami should prob get what SMU got. But if this shit is all true, Penn State can NOT play football ever again. How the fuck could you kill a teams program for 2 years for systematically payin kids, and not ban a program forever for systematically allowing a coach to TOUCH FUCKIN KIDS

[spoon]

To prove just how bad the AFC West is, KC found a way to get KILLED at home vs Miami and Oakland got Tebow'd at HOME versus the awful Broncos. So yah, this is a good week for SD who we all had to expect to get a loss playing GB. Now Norv somehow is still in a tie for first in their division, the mighty AFC West.

This division should be OVER with even a fucking decent coach in SD, but nope it's a dogfight until the end. And if SD wins it, a big if, it'll be stated they can't fire the offensive genius Norv. Sorry, he's not an offensive genius and hasn't been one since fucking Dallas if at all bc those damn teams were LOADED!

[Snoogans]

To prove just how bad the AFC West is, KC found a way to get KILLED at home vs Miami and Oakland got Tebow'd at HOME versus the awful Broncos. So yah, this is a good week for SD who we all had to expect to get a loss playing GB. Now Norv somehow is still in a tie for first in their division, the mighty AFC West.

This division should be OVER with even a fucking decent coach in SD, but nope it's a dogfight until the end. And if SD wins it, a big if, it'll be stated they can't fire the offensive genius Norv. Sorry, he's not an offensive genius and hasn't been one since fucking Dallas if at all bc those damn teams were LOADED!

Seattle is ridin high in 2nd place in the NFC west. at 2-6

miami is so fucked up man. they could easily be like 4-4 5-3 this year. they remind me ALOT of last years bills and lions. if they had a real coach, they prob woulda been playoff caliber. esp in that awful division

in fact, is there a division this year that doesnt suck?

[underdog]

To prove just how bad the AFC West is, KC found a way to get KILLED at home vs Miami and Oakland got Tebow'd at HOME versus the awful Broncos. So yah, this is a good week for SD who we all had to expect to get a loss playing GB. Now Norv somehow is still in a tie for first in their division, the mighty AFC West.

This division should be OVER with even a fucking decent coach in SD, but nope it's a dogfight until the end. And if SD wins it, a big if, it'll be stated they can't fire the offensive genius Norv. Sorry, he's not an offensive genius and hasn't been one since fucking Dallas if at all bc those damn teams were LOADED!

The AFC West is turning into the NFC West. A division so easy to win no one can do it.

And in related news, there's no way Mike Singletary gets another coaching job, right? Apparently he was coaching one of the best teams in the league to a .500 record.

[spoon]

Is there a good fucking team in the AFC right now that is a clear favorite?

Houston?! FUCKING HOUSTON!?

Am I to believe we've come to this!?


Hell, Cincy has been completely retooled on offense and it's actually holding up too. But can anyone claim they're to be feared at all?

NE lost back to back games and the offense has looked as shitty as their D. Now Pitt is right back down to earth and let's face it, can't/won't run the ball at all! Can you take them or Baltimore serious!? The AFC is a fucking hot mess.

[Snoogans]

Is there a good fucking team in the AFC right now that is a clear favorite?

Houston?! FUCKING HOUSTON!?

Am I to believe we've come to this!?


Hell, Cincy has been completely retooled on offense and it's actually holding up too. But can anyone claim they're to be feared at all?

NE lost back to back games and the offense has looked as shitty as their D. Now Pitt is right back down to earth and let's face it, can't/won't run the ball at all! Can you take them or Baltimore serious!? The AFC is a fucking hot mess.

funny you say that. i decided foster would hurt ben tate too much so i picked up that faggot that started for the browns, instead of tate.

[spoon]

Seattle is ridin high in 2nd place in the NFC west. at 2-6

miami is so fucked up man. they could easily be like 4-4 5-3 this year. they remind me ALOT of last years bills and lions. if they had a real coach, they prob woulda been playoff caliber. esp in that awful division

in fact, is there a division this year that doesnt suck?

great point on miami compared to buf and det last year and the tie to coaching

in the afc west, SD is SF of last year and Oakland is getting better but just needs run stoppers and Palmer to get more time

I have to think it's bt SD and Oak for the pathetic division

both lose in the first round unless something drastic changes

[spoon]

The AFC West is turning into the NFC West. A division so easy to win no one can do it.

And in related news, there's no way Mike Singletary gets another coaching job, right? Apparently he was coaching one of the best teams in the league to a .500 record.

as snoogans pointed out, outside of SF thanks to Harbaugh, the NFC West is still the garbage dump of the league

sure they have a better top, but their cellar is a fucking mess

[Snoogans]

great point on miami compared to buf and det last year and the tie to coaching

in the afc west, SD is SF of last year and Oakland is getting better but just needs run stoppers and Palmer to get more time

I have to think it's bt SD and Oak for the pathetic division

both lose in the first round unless something drastic changes

of course SD will win the division. I know you arent a big college guy, but essentially, you are being coached by Ron Zook.

he coaches Illinois. He had a couple tough years and then went like 10-2 or 11-1 and they extended him. He blew ass for 3 years and then went like 10-2 and they extended him. the last few years he blew ass and this year they are playin really well and will probably extend him. But they never actually win anything that really matters.

just like you always do, you will win 6 or 7 of your last 8, roll in to the playoffs, do just enough not to get him fired but not enough to win anything. Enjoy the cycle

[underdog]

as snoogans pointed out, outside of SF thanks to Harbaugh, the NFC West is still the garbage dump of the league

sure they have a better top, but their cellar is a fucking mess

I'm not saying it's a good division, I meant that one team should easily dominate it.

[Snoogans]

as snoogans pointed out, outside of SF thanks to Harbaugh, the NFC West is still the garbage dump of the league

sure they have a better top, but their cellar is a fucking mess

i really think the giants are gonna put it on them next week. The giants play like shit against shit teams, thats why the lost to wash and seattle. They play good against good teams.

Im almost happy they have a tough schedule to close. I think they easily can go 4-4 and finish with 10 wins. philly, wash, romo twice which guarantees at least 1 win, NO isnt that great, and SF. I really think only cause the schedule is tough, they wont tank at the end of the year. Thats how these faggots are

[spoon]

nah, it HAS to be his last year...especially if he doesn't lead them to the division and playoffs

i just can't see AJ taking the heat and the only way to cool it down, and trust me people want Norv AND AJ gone in SD, is to sack the coach

fuck the lord of no rings (gayest nickname but so true)

[Kevin]

nah, it HAS to be his last year...especially if he doesn't lead them to the division and playoffs

i just can't see AJ taking the heat and the only way to cool it down, and trust me people want Norv AND AJ gone in SD, is to sack the coach

fuck the lord of no rings (gayest nickname but so true)

Isn't AJ the same guy that gave him a 4 year ext coming off one of the WORST coached playoff games ever?

[Snoogans]

nah, it HAS to be his last year...especially if he doesn't lead them to the division and playoffs

i just can't see AJ taking the heat and the only way to cool it down, and trust me people want Norv AND AJ gone in SD, is to sack the coach

fuck the lord of no rings (gayest nickname but so true)

if you lose in the AFC Champ game, would they fire him? if it was a close game and he did everything short of tackling rivers himself to fuck the dog

[spoon]

Isn't AJ the same guy that gave him a 4 year ext coming off one of the WORST coached playoff games ever?

yah seriously, someone take away his mod powers now!

[Snoogans]

deadspin recaps of the games are so much better to represent the dogshit NFL

Aaron Rodgers continued his ridiculous video game-like proficiency and offensive dominance. He had four touchdowns on 21-26 passing. Phillip Rivers, meanwhile chipped in a couple touchdowns for Green Bay as well. Rivers then made it interesting when he and Vincent Jackson hooked up for two touchdowns in less than 2 minutes in the fourth quarter. It wasn't enough, though. You know, because of those other touchdowns he threw.

Offensive powerhouse and rocket-armed John Skelton threw for an earth-shattering 222 yards en route to leading his team to the promised land over a bitter foe in a hotly contested division game. He was able to find some chump receiver in the end zone for a 13 yard touchdown. It was probably the finest thrown ball in the history of time. Patrick Peterson also did some stuff.

[Snoogans]

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/11/xlarge_183880c85fdd85fdab5bfca8c69d980f.jpg

this was apparently a nice touch a few years back too:

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[TripleSkeet]

btw, tenbatz, does today prove the point we made to you? 117 yards rushing for tebow, and a terrible day passing. That just PROVES he has the athletic ability and not the mind.

I still cannot believe hes not black.

[Tenbatsuzen]

OVERNIGHT FUCKIN CAMPS. THESE COCKSUCKERS KNEW WHAT HE WAS FUCKIN DOIN AND THEN LIED TO THE FEDS ABOUT IT


I have never said this. Ive seen alot of shit over the years. SMU deserved exactly what they got. Miami should prob get what SMU got. But if this shit is all true, Penn State can NOT play football ever again. How the fuck could you kill a teams program for 2 years for systematically payin kids, and not ban a program forever for systematically allowing a coach to TOUCH FUCKIN KIDS

I want to know why the grad assistant didn't go to the cops. That bothers me the most about this.

I agree there should be a penalty because it's the very DEFINITION of "lack of institutional control"

Curley and Schultz are quitting. Just was on NBC10.

[spoon]

I want to know why the grad assistant didn't go to the cops. That bothers me the most about this.

I agree there should be a penalty because it's the very DEFINITION of "lack of institutional control"

Curley and Schultz are quitting. Just was on NBC10.

Well they are being charged with perjury, so it's not like they really stepped down on their own here. These fucks should be destroyed for what their passive involvement here, along with that asshole Paterno. It's amazing what some will do to protect their beloved image and in this case program. At what cost, over a decade of some asshole touching kids? Allowing a monster to continue destroying lives and families bc you are an institution? An institution is what they all fucking need.

[Snacks]

I dont get the janitor. If you see that happening why dont you stop it right then and there and call the police? That is pissing me off more then any of the other assholes involved. That could have stopped this a long time ago!

[spoon]

I dont get the janitor. If you see that happening why dont you stop it right then and there and call the police? That is pissing me off more then any of the other assholes involved. That could have stopped this a long time ago!

Will anyone be surprised if there is michael jackson hush money involved here at some point? In particular, with a guy like the janitor? Or some fear tactics of losing his job?

I pretty much don't expect much from those involved based on what we already know.

[Kevin]

I dont get the janitor. If you see that happening why dont you stop it right then and there and call the police? That is pissing me off more then any of the other assholes involved. That could have stopped this a long time ago!

They need to buy 60inch TVs and dress up as 1980s wrestlers for Halloween, they need that job!

[A.J.]

Well they are being charged with perjury, so it's not like they really stepped down on their own here. These fucks should be destroyed for what their passive involvement here, along with that asshole Paterno. It's amazing what some will do to protect their beloved image and in this case program. At what cost, over a decade of some asshole touching kids? Allowing a monster to continue destroying lives and families bc you are an institution? An institution is what they all fucking need.

See "church" comma "Catholic".

[Judge Smails]

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/vZgLOT.gif

[sailor]

See "church" comma "Catholic".

I blame both universities.

[A.J.]

Hey!

[newport king]

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[brettmojo]

http://cdn.wwtdd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/touched.jpg

Really, really fucked up.

[Dude!]

i can't say how delighted i am
that Aaron Rodgers is and will be
the greatest QB in Green Bay history

crybaby Brett Favre must be so sad
that he is already just an asterik

*the QB who preceded Aaron Rodgers

[Snoogans]

"Police say a 50-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the leg in a parking lot at Gillette Stadium before the New England Patriots game against the Giants." He's reportedly OK

[CountryBob]

Yea! Redskins! What a great win!

oh, they didnt win again did they?

another year of ugggghhhhhh :flush:

[Gutter]

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that is an absolute riot.

[HBox]

For the last year I am constantly thinking "Nothing could possibly make me hate college football more" and I'm constantly hating it more.

[newport king]

"Police say a 50-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the leg in a parking lot at Gillette Stadium before the New England Patriots game against the Giants." He's reportedly OK

Luckily Pierce was able to drive him to the hospital.

[spoon]

that is an absolute riot.

X2! I LOVE the close.

"You are a factory of sadness!...I'll see you Sunday."

:lol:

[Gutter]

X2! I LOVE the close.

"You are a factory of sadness!...I'll see you Sunday."

:lol:


Oh best line ever. Sums up how any fan feels when their team keeps shitting the bed. hahaha great clip.

[HBox]

Well that was a complete load of horseshit. Bears + Refs 17, Eagles 10.

[Kevin]

Well that was a complete load of horseshit. Bears + Refs 17, Eagles 10.

In fairness besides beating two bums the past 2 weeks, Philly has been pretty dogshit tonight and the whole year without the refs.

[HBox]

In fairness besides beating two bums the past 2 weeks, Philly has been pretty dogshit tonight and the whole year without the refs.

All the more reason the refs shouldn't fuck them over.

[Earlshog]

Lets go Bears!

[HBox]

Another great job by the refs. For a guy who was so clearly wrong the linesman was very sure Forte was down.

[HBox]

Well that was clearly not a touchdown and it was somehow confirmed as a TD. Not the best night for the refs.

[Kevin]

Why don't you have another fumble, Forte.. YOU BUM.