2011-12 NFL Season

[Kevin]

Jim Kelly?
also, that kick won brady the game. it was one of those 4 point FGs that woulda ended it right there

Come on, he could hit it and if he got ran into, he could go for the 4pt play.

[underdog]

Great. I got to deal with insufferable Giants fans for 2 weeks.

Ugh. It's so true.

I wanted the Giants to lose more than I wanted the Patriots to win just because of awful Giants fans.

My first year in NYC and I have to deal with this garbage. I'm going back to Boston for this Super Bowl.

[underdog]

Kevin is mild compared to what I hear at work. I didn't hear a peep about football all year until two weeks ago. Now all of a sudden I hear shit like "The Giants just will themselves to victory!"

:wallbash:

same here. It's fucking constant now.

[Kevin]

Just remember guys...

Most Giant fans are Yankee fans, so.....

Yea...

[underdog]

dont you hate when a team wins because the other team actually lost it? When a kicker misses a chip shit fg it means you are lucky not that you won it. I hate shit like that. But I guess thats why Viniteri was so important without him who knows what happens in those 3 SBs or if they even make it to the SB?!

It really makes me happy when everyone just ignores you.

[underdog]

Early Vegas line

New England -3

justjon $

[Tenbatsuzen]

My first year in NYC and I have to deal with this garbage. I'm going back to Boston for this Super Bowl.


"HIV? No thanks, I'll take some pancreatic cancer!"

[underdog]

Jim Kelly?
also, that kick won brady the game. it was one of those 4 point FGs that woulda ended it right there

Oh yeah, I forgot about the 4 pt FG. snacks is so wise.

[Snacks]

Ugh. It's so true.

I wanted the Giants to lose more than I wanted the Patriots to win just because of awful Giants fans.

My first year in NYC and I have to deal with this garbage. I'm going back to Boston for this Super Bowl.

one of the worst things about living in the ny/nj tri state area is yankee, knicks and giants fans. jets fans always sucked but it wasnt til recently that they started to talk shit. mets fans are pretty good and as a nets fan i can say most dont talk because there isnt much to talk about.

these next 2 weeks will be nauseating.

[underdog]

TEAMS Go to Super Bowls not individuals. Hes lucky he has always had a team to get him there along with a hell of a coach.

teams go to super bowls? That's so weird! I thought the players were elected by voting to go the super bowl.

The super bowl is next sunday, right?

But you're right. A lot of QBs have been so lucky to go to 5 SBs. It's an absolutely common occurrence.

[underdog]

wrong, cant throw a review flag inside 2 mins its only done by the review team in the booth.

It was within 2 mins? I thought it was outside 2mins, but I am probably wrong.

[Snacks]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the 4 pt FG. snacks is so wise.

i have no idea what you are talking about when did i ever mention a 4 point fg? some of you idiots like to make things up in your head to prove yourselves right when you are wrong. you know similar to you not knowing that inside 2 mins all reviews are made by the officials. you know nothing about football and maybe shouldnt comment on it.

[Snacks]

It was within 2 mins? I thought it was outside 2mins, but I am probably wrong.

you are as always when it comes to football/sports in general. the td throw was with 40 seconds left give or take a few seconds.

[TripleSkeet]

I dont know what was funnier, the 4 pt. field goal or hearing how the Pats are overrated because they were a #1 seed.

So, if the Giants win this one whats that buy Coughlin? 2 more years before calls for his firing? 1 if he loses?

[Kevin]

Tom Brady is a better QB than Marino

Not because of 3Sbs.

But because he is just better.

And is not a stat whore like Marino was.

If he was a stat whore he could break every one of his records, but shockingly he actually wants to win.

The end.

[Kevin]

I dont know what was funnier, the 4 pt. field goal or hearing how the Pats are overrated because they were a #1 seed.

So, if the Giants win this one whats that buy Coughlin? 2 more years before calls for his firing? 1 if he loses?

If he wins this, i can't rag on him no matter how terrible he is those other years.

You sign up for a SB every 5 years any day.

[underdog]

you are as always when it comes to football/sports in general. the td throw was with 40 seconds left give or take a few seconds.

Good one.

I've been drinking since 1pm. My memory is not crisp.

But please, go on about how lucky Brady is to be in his FIFTH SUPER BOWL.

[keithy_19]

Ugh. It's so true.

I wanted the Giants to lose more than I wanted the Patriots to win just because of awful Giants fans.

My first year in NYC and I have to deal with this garbage. I'm going back to Boston for this Super Bowl.

Not all of us Giants fans are assholes about it.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/victor-cruz-nike-super-speed-td.jpg

:wink:

[underdog]

I dont know what was funnier, the 4 pt. field goal or hearing how the Pats are overrated because they were a #1 seed.

So, if the Giants win this one whats that buy Coughlin? 2 more years before calls for his firing? 1 if he loses?

Coughlin getting to the SB gets him at least 2 more years, which makes me happy, because he's a terrible HC.

Victor Cruz seems like this amazing find for Coughlin, only he had an amazing preseason in 2010, but Coughlin benched him. Then he started 2011 on the bench. The only reason he started playing was because someone else was injured. This AMAZING wide receiver is on the team, but Coughlin ignores him because he's too young.

[keithy_19]

Coughlin getting to the SB gets him at least 2 more years, which makes me happy, because he's a terrible HC.

Victor Cruz seems like this amazing find for Coughlin, only he had an amazing preseason in 2010, but Coughlin benched him. Then he started 2011 on the bench. The only reason he started playing was because someone else was injured. This AMAZING wide receiver is on the team, but Coughlin ignores him because he's too young.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/victor-cruz-nike-super-speed-td.jpg

[underdog]

If he wins this, i can't rag on him no matter how terrible he is those other years.

You sign up for a SB every 5 years any day.

Yeah, if he wins another, you really cannot go after the guy. How many coaches win 2 SBs with one team? That list is short.

[Kevin]

Coughlin getting to the SB gets him at least 2 more years, which makes me happy, because he's a terrible HC.

Victor Cruz seems like this amazing find for Coughlin, only he had an amazing preseason in 2010, but Coughlin benched him. Then he started 2011 on the bench. The only reason he started playing was because someone else was injured. This AMAZING wide receiver is on the team, but Coughlin ignores him because he's too young.

Coughlin did not bench him, he got hurt at the final game of the pre season I think..

[underdog]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/victor-cruz-nike-super-speed-td.jpg

I've been holding onto this man (along with Ramses Barden, who I ended up dropping) in my keeper league for 2 years because I knew what would happen. And it totally did!

[underdog]

Coughlin did not bench him, he got hurt at the final game of the pre season I think..

I think he was active for one game and then was "injured" and put on IR for the year.

Coughlin has this weird thing where he avoids his WRs, for whatever reason.

Last year, they were completely undersized at WR, but wouldn't put Barden (6'7") in any game.

[TripleSkeet]

Coughlin getting to the SB gets him at least 2 more years, which makes me happy, because he's a terrible HC.

Victor Cruz seems like this amazing find for Coughlin, only he had an amazing preseason in 2010, but Coughlin benched him. Then he started 2011 on the bench. The only reason he started playing was because someone else was injured. This AMAZING wide receiver is on the team, but Coughlin ignores him because he's too young.

True, but I mean, he cant be to terrible a head coach if he wins 2 Super Bowls in 4 years. Its not like he inherited a dynasty like Barry Switzer.

I just laugh because I see Giants fans saying the same shit about him Eagles fans say about Andy Reid, yet they chastise Philly fans for not appreciating Reid even though Coughlin already got them 1 Super Bowl win and a chance at another. While Reid has 1 SB appearance and 0 wins under his belt in 13 years.

[Kevin]

I think he was active for one game and then was "injured" and put on IR for the year.

Coughlin has this weird thing where he avoids his WRs, for whatever reason.

Last year, they were completely undersized at WR, but wouldn't put Barden (6'7") in any game.

Im not defending him, he has underused Wrs such as Cruz and Barden.

But Cruz tore his hammy after week 5.

[Kevin]

True, but I mean, he cant be to terrible a head coach if he wins 2 Super Bowls in 4 years. Its not like he inherited a dynasty like Barry Switzer.

I just laugh because I see Giants fans saying the same shit about him Eagles fans say about Andy Reid, yet they chastise Philly fans for not appreciating Reid even though Coughlin already got them 1 Super Bowl win and a chance at another. While Reid has 1 SB appearance and 0 wins under his belt in 13 years.

Well, it is a HUGE belt...

[Section 8]

I'm a Giants fan, but I'm far from an asshole and I give credit where it's due. The Niners punt returner gave the game away to the Giants. I can't say that the better team won, because we don't know who really was the better team today. I thought the game was going to be higher scoring, but both defenses really stepped up. There were times that I was shocked by some of Coughlin's play calling, much like of couple of you were.

Congrats to the Giants, and a thank you to the Niners for one hell of a game.

[underdog]

True, but I mean, he cant be to terrible a head coach if he wins 2 Super Bowls in 4 years. Its not like he inherited a dynasty like Barry Switzer.

I just laugh because I see Giants fans saying the same shit about him Eagles fans say about Andy Reid, yet they chastise Philly fans for not appreciating Reid even though Coughlin already got them 1 Super Bowl win and a chance at another. While Reid has 1 SB appearance and 0 wins under his belt in 13 years.

I agree, he cannot be a terrible coach if he wins a 2nd SB. His team just quits on him SO MUCH. It's crazy.

[TripleSkeet]

Kyle Williams is getting BURIED on Twitter. Also just found out his last game in college he fumbled a kickoff that all he had to do was kneel down with and gave University of Arizona the ball with no time left, and they kicked a field goal to win the game. AND he dropped the game winning touchdown in his high school state title game.

Holy shit. Hes a fucking choke machine.

[Kevin]

Kyle Williams is getting BURIED on Twitter. Also just found out his last game in college he fumbled a kickoff that all he had to do was kneel down with and gave University of Arizona the ball with no time left, and they kicked a field goal to win the game. AND he dropped the game winning touchdown in his high school state title game.

Holy shit. Hes a fucking choke machine.

Who is Kyle Williams?

[Section 8]

Who is Kyle Williams?

He's the 49'ers punt returner that screwed up twice.

[Snoogans]

Kyle Williams is getting BURIED on Twitter. Also just found out his last game in college he fumbled a kickoff that all he had to do was kneel down with and gave University of Arizona the ball with no time left, and they kicked a field goal to win the game. AND he dropped the game winning touchdown in his high school state title game.

Holy shit. Hes a fucking choke machine.

he wasnt supposed to do it either. Ginn returns for them but he got hurt last week. only reason the kid was back there

[Kevin]

He's the 49'ers punt returner that screwed up twice.

Oh im getting Jaquan Williams and Kyle Williams confused.

[keithy_19]

He's the 49'ers punt returner that screwed up twice.

Terrible tipper too.

[RingWraith]

Kyle Williams is getting BURIED on Twitter. Also just found out his last game in college he fumbled a kickoff that all he had to do was kneel down with and gave University of Arizona the ball with no time left, and they kicked a field goal to win the game. AND he dropped the game winning touchdown in his high school state title game.

Holy shit. Hes a fucking choke machine.

DAMN!

[underdog]

Oh im getting Jaquan Williams and Kyle Williams confused.

Racist.

[Snoogans]

i wanna go back to talkin about how snacks thinks that Adam Vinitieri is the reason the pats won those SBs. Brady had nothing to do with it. All season, every single game they won cause vinitieri hit those 9 FGs every week

[HBox]

i wanna go back to talkin about how snacks thinks that Adam Vinitieri is the reason the pats won those SBs. Brady had nothing to do with it. All season, every single game they won cause vinitieri hit those 9 FGs every week

Let's not forget about punter Lee Johnson and long snapper Lonie Paxton's crucial role in the 2001 SB win.

[TripleSkeet]

i wanna go back to talkin about how snacks thinks that Adam Vinitieri is the reason the pats won those SBs. Brady had nothing to do with it. All season, every single game they won cause vinitieri hit those 9 FGs every week

Thank God Im not the only one that sees the insanity. Poor Gostkowski. This whole Super Bowl is on his shoulders.

[Kevin]

Lawrance Tynes is about to win his 2nd SB for Eli.

[Snoogans]

Thank God Im not the only one that sees the insanity. Poor Gostkowski. This whole Super Bowl is on his shoulders.

and zultan mesko or whatever

edit, video fucked up

[Snacks]

i wanna go back to talkin about how snacks thinks that Adam Vinitieri is the reason the pats won those SBs. Brady had nothing to do with it. All season, every single game they won cause vinitieri hit those 9 FGs every week

because you are trying to be an asshole because thats what you are i will say this. i never said its the only reason. i did say, especially back then that he had great defenses and he won those super bowls in very close games because of def and a clutch kicker. he wasnt the QB then that he is now he was an avg, serviceable QB when he won those SBs. He won those sbs in his 1st, 3rd and 4th years as a starter. Yeah he was a beast! lol. Since he has now become a much better passer he hasnt won dick he also hasnt had as good of a defense either.

[TripleSkeet]

Peyton Mannings Super Bowl stats (the one he won)... completed 25 of 38 passes for 247 yards and a touchdown, with one interception for a passer rating of 81.8. Won 29-17

Fucking guy sucks. Rode his defense and running backs to titletown.

[Snacks]

Peyton Mannings Super Bowl stats (the one he won)... completed 25 of 38 passes for 247 yards and a touchdown, with one interception for a passer rating of 81.8. Won 29-17

Fucking guy sucks. Rode his defense and running backs to titletown.

Yep and his career stats are terrible too. Bradys are so much better oh wait there actually not even close.

[Snacks]

The punt returner is getting death threats from 49ers fans. They are also making threats towards his family. That is fucking ridiculous. Its a game mistakes happen but to want to hurt the player or his family over this is over the top.

I also read that he is the son of the White Sox GM? I didnt know that before.

[TripleSkeet]

Yep and his career stats are terrible too. Bradys are so much better oh wait there actually not even close.

Hmmm... Lets see...

Manning: 49 more starts
- about 15,000 more yards passing
- 99 more touchdowns
- 73 more ints
- 1.1% higher completion percentage
- .1% lower TD percentage
- .5% higher int percentage
- 1.5 lower quarterback rating
- 2 less Super Bowl rings, 3 less Super Bowl appearances

By the time their careers are over I wouldnt be surprised if their stats are alot closer than you think.

[TripleSkeet]

The punt returner is getting death threats from 49ers fans. They are also making threats towards his family. That is fucking ridiculous. Its a game mistakes happen but to want to hurt the player or his family over this is over the top.

I also read that he is the son of the White Sox GM? I didnt know that before.

Ive been reading them, out of I dont know how many tweets all I could find was one that was threatening to him or his family. Its also the only one Ive seen retweeted (to bring negative attention on the guy) over and over.

@javpasquel

@KyleWilliams_10. I hope you, youre wife, kids and family die, you deserve it

He doesnt deserve that. But the rest of the criticism Ive been seeing should be expected of any pro athlete with a Twitter. It hasnt been that bad. Hes also gotten a ton of support.. This was the one I dropped...

@NickyBigtime
Kyle Williams should keep his head up. I heard he got the game ball tonight. Coughlin sent it over to him from the Giants locker room. #NFL

[Snoogans]

i have a theory.

Snacks came up with this whole brady kicker thing so that when people remind him marino wasnt like brady or even, GASP, eli manning and never was able to win, he can just blame the kicker along with the RB who got 6 carries a game cause marino checked everything into a pass to mark duper or clayton

[Snacks]

i have a theory.

Snacks came up with this whole brady kicker thing so that when people remind him marino wasnt like brady or even, GASP, eli manning and never was able to win, he can just blame the kicker along with the RB who got 6 carries a game cause marino checked everything into a pass to mark duper or clayton

see this is where you keep falling off and bringing up something that has nothing to do with the discussion. Marino has nothing to do with this argument and isnt why I dont like Brady. You keep bringing Marino into it for no reason even when I dont even mention him which is every time.

[Snacks]

Ive been reading them, out of I dont know how many tweets all I could find was one that was threatening to him or his family. Its also the only one Ive seen retweeted (to bring negative attention on the guy) over and over.



He doesnt deserve that. But the rest of the criticism Ive been seeing should be expected of any pro athlete with a Twitter. It hasnt been that bad. Hes also gotten a ton of support.. This was the one I dropped...

I dont care if people shit on players but to threaten is ridiculous. I didnt read twitter I just read a sport article online that mentioned this. I love how many tough guys are out there but would be the biggest pussys if any of these players got in their face.

[Snoogans]

see this is where you keep falling off and bringing up something that has nothing to do with the discussion. Marino has nothing to do with this argument and isnt why I dont like Brady. You keep bringing Marino into it for no reason even when I dont even mention him which is every time.

i bring him up just to fuck with you. thats the only reason. Most of marinos career i am too young to even remember. Most of the shit i just say cause i know it gets you going

[PapaBear]

I dont care if people shit on players but to threaten is ridiculous. I didnt read twitter I just read a sport article online that mentioned this. I love how many tough guys are out there but would be the biggest pussys if any of these players got in their face.
I don't think you're getting what TS said. He couldn't find any real threats. Just one that hoped for death. Maybe this "online sport article" that you got your info from should show some sort of actual proof that people are threatening him and his family.

[Snacks]

I don't think you're getting what TS said. He couldn't find any real threats. Just one that hoped for death. Maybe this "online sport article" that you got your info from should show some sort of actual proof that people are threatening him and his family.

this is what i read and he gives a couple but like i said i didnt read twitter just this "online sports article". I guess his quotes and examples should be enough. he also says there are much more. maybe many took them down from twitter or maybe the guy who wrote this is a better twitter PI and was able to find more then TS could. Maybe TS only looked for those who blatantly said they would hurt him? Who knows.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1034961-san-francisco-receiver-kyle-williams-receivers-death-threats-on-twitter

[PapaBear]

this is what i read and he gives a couple but like i said i didnt read twitter just this "online sports article". I guess his quotes and examples should be enough. he also says there are much more. maybe many took them down from twitter or maybe the guy who wrote this is a better twitter PI and was able to find more then TS could. Maybe TS only looked for those who blatantly said they would hurt him? Who knows.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1034961-san-francisco-receiver-kyle-williams-receivers-death-threats-on-twitter
I don't see one single threat on the link you posted. Nothing worse than someone saying "eat shit and die", or any O&A fan saying "get AIDS and die". He (the online author) did say, "There are plenty more, but that's just a preview of the type of behavior that people exhibit", but that still doesn't give any proof at all, of death threats.

[cougarjake13]

The moment he caught it, it should have been a TD. There is no opportunity to strip it after that.


As soon as I saw it I was like how is that any diff then the Jennings td against the giants in the reg season

[Section 8]

You can't bring Marino into any discussion of "Best Quarterback Ever" if you are comparing him to any modern QB. The rules have changed too much to allow better chances of reception, more yardage and higher scores.

As for the twitter thing, I would love to know how many of those tweets sent were done by some drunk-ass fanboy who probably had some money on the game. It's unfortunate that Kyle Williams has to go thru this, but to be fair, only one mistake made was of his own doing and that was this:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/bwosection8/Footballtoknee.jpg

[CountryBob]

You can't bring Marino into any discussion of "Best Quarterback Ever" if you are comparing him to any modern QB. The rules have changed too much to allow better chances of reception, more yardage and higher scores.

As for the twitter thing, I would love to know how many of those tweets sent were done by some drunk-ass fanboy who probably had some money on the game. It's unfortunate that Kyle Williams has to go thru this, but to be fair, only one mistake made was of his own doing and that was this:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/bwosection8/Footballtoknee.jpg

Yeah, never did understand why sometimes, the receiving player will rush to the ball while letting it roll dead and risking getting hit. I see it happen too many times when they should get the hell out of there if they are not fielding it.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, never did understand why sometimes, the receiving player will rush to the ball while letting it roll dead and risking getting hit. I see it happen too many times when they should get the hell out of there if they are not fielding it.



Even worse is when they do that then as the opposing team starts gathering around it as its still rolling the receiving teams players tries to dive in there and grab it and start running

Fucking hate that shit

Rw mcquarters did it all the time as a giant

[Kevin]

Joe and Evan just had a good point.

They were talking about the Davis celebration penalty.
They said the Lambau leap is allowed because under the rules it was grandfathered in.

I'm 50/50 on this. On one hand I say its tradition but on the other hand I say its still excessive.

[Kevin]

I would also like to know what was the difference between the Jennings TD vs the Giants and the Lee Evans non TD?

[Kevin]

And speaking of Jennings.

He now can gladly have that Pro Bowl spot over Cruz!

[TripleSkeet]

I don't see one single threat on the link you posted. Nothing worse than someone saying "eat shit and die", or any O&A fan saying "get AIDS and die". He (the online author) did say, "There are plenty more, but that's just a preview of the type of behavior that people exhibit", but that still doesn't give any proof at all, of death threats.

I dont think people know what the fuck a death threat is anymore. I posted the closest one I found just because at the end he said "You deserve it". But it really wasnt a death threat.

Saying "I hope you drop dead" or "Eat shit and die" are not death threats. The best part is, I saw posts where people were saying fans tweeting he should kill himself was a death threat. How the fuck does that work? If I tell you to kill yourself, and you decide not to, theres no threat.

[Snoogans]

As soon as I saw it I was like how is that any diff then the Jennings td against the giants in the reg season

no, see to complete a catch, you have to have both feet down. the guy caught it, got one foot down, and it got slapped out before his second foot came down. once again lets try to save our outrage for actual bad calls. they got it right. it was no catch

[Snoogans]

I would also like to know what was the difference between the Jennings TD vs the Giants and the Lee Evans non TD?

because jennings got both feet down before he lost the ball, there by making it instantly a TD. Evans NEVER GOT HIS SECOND FOOT DOWN BEFORE THE BALL CAME OUT.

How is this not obvious?

[weekapaugjz]

because jennings got both feet down before he lost the ball, there by making it instantly a TD. Evans NEVER GOT HIS SECOND FOOT DOWN BEFORE THE BALL CAME OUT.

How is this not obvious?

i wouldn't say it's obvious, it looks to me the ball gets hit at the same time the second foot comes down. it's close, and i think the right call, but it's not obvious.

[TripleSkeet]

because jennings got both feet down before he lost the ball, there by making it instantly a TD. Evans NEVER GOT HIS SECOND FOOT DOWN BEFORE THE BALL CAME OUT.

How is this not obvious?

What are you talking about??? Every analyst on ESPN and NFL network is freaking out today saying Baltimore got robbed!!! Oh wait....they arent? But Snacks told me they were going to...

[Snoogans]

i wouldn't say it's obvious, it looks to me the ball gets hit at the same time the second foot comes down. it's close, and i think the right call, but it's not obvious.

i didnt mean his foot down was obvious. I mean why they said it was no TD is obvious. I was sayin it to the people asking how it could have possibly been called that way and how its different from the jennings one

What are you talking about??? Every analyst on ESPN and NFL network is freaking out today saying Baltimore got robbed!!! Oh wait....they arent? But Snacks told me they were going to...

thats the funniest shit. They are ALL sayin it was the right call. I havent heard one person, even a Baltimore Raven, say it was wrong

[Snoogans]

ahhh memories

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[Snacks]

What are you talking about??? Every analyst on ESPN and NFL network is freaking out today saying Baltimore got robbed!!! Oh wait....they arent? But Snacks told me they were going to...

i was wrong about thinking everyone would say this. I still think it looked like both feet were down and at the very least it should have been looked at.

Now I also said that Balt lost this game and gave it away and that NE didnt win it they got lucky. So far from what I have seen many have said that and think NE got lucky and the Ravens gave it away.

[hanso]

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The foot is down before ball is out.

[Snoogans]

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The foot is down before ball is out.

no, it wasnt. The second foot, not the first. this isnt college, they both have to get down while you are still in full possesion of the ball. That didnt happen

[HBox]

If this is how the Giants operate then fuck them. Fuck them up their assholes. I hope Brady and Belichick embarrass them. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/concussions-take-on-a-strategic-component/)

Any chance of me rooting for the Giants just went out the window.

[Kevin]

If this is how the Giants operate then fuck them. Fuck them up their assholes. I hope Brady and Belichick embarrass them. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/concussions-take-on-a-strategic-component/)

Any chance of me rooting for the Giants just went out the window.

If you are talking about the going after Williams thing.

You are on the goddamn field, you are fair goddamn game.

Blame his team more for playing him when they think its dangerous.

Its a hitting sport not flag football.

[Snoogans]

If this is how the Giants operate then fuck them. Fuck them up their assholes. I hope Brady and Belichick embarrass them. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/concussions-take-on-a-strategic-component/)

Any chance of me rooting for the Giants just went out the window.

they are debating it now. they arent sure if the guys meant the fact he had them means he is soft and a clean hit should rattle him, which is possible, or if they were sayin they were head hunting.

i really hope the first way. if they were sayin we know he had concussion so if we hit him hard and clean we can rattle him and shake him up, thats fine. thats part of the game. they were kinda vague in how they said it.

If they were sayin they were tryin to hit him in the head, which i, at least, never saw them tryin to do, or it never seemed in game they were tryin to be dirty, but if thats what they were doing, then its fuckin disgusting.

[Kevin]

they are debating it now. they arent sure if the guys meant the fact he had them means he is soft and a clean hit should rattle him, which is possible, or if they were sayin they were head hunting.

i really hope the first way. if they were sayin we know he had concussion so if we hit him hard and clean we can rattle him and shake him up, thats fine. thats part of the game. they were kinda vague in how they said it.

If they were sayin they were tryin to hit him in the head, which i, at least, never saw them tryin to do, or it never seemed in game they were tryin to be dirty, but if thats what they were doing, then its fuckin disgusting.


Yea, I think they meant the latter...

But still if the guy is in danger of getting another concussion that much, then keep him out.

[HBox]

If you are talking about the going after Williams thing.

You are on the goddamn field, you are fair goddamn game.

Blame his team more for playing him when they think its dangerous.

Its a hitting sport not flag football.

You don't go out and try to injure people. That's scumbag shit, and Justin Tuck just three weeks ago was slamming the Falcons for doing just that.

You especially don't go out and try and fuck with someone's head in the literal sense.

[Snoogans]

Yea, I think they meant the latter...

But still if the guy is in danger of getting another concussion that much, then keep him out.

its not in danger if they were sayin they are gonna try to hit his head, which is illegal, then its a douchebag move. im becoming more and more shocked you arent a jets fan

[Kevin]

You don't go out and try to injure people. That's scumbag shit, and Justin Tuck just three weeks ago was slamming the Falcons for doing just that.

You especially don't go out and try and fuck with someone's head in the literal sense.

I don't think they meant it that way because like Snoogs said they did not have a hit near his head.

[HBox]

When you hear them mention the concussions, and wanting to take him out of the game, and saying that Sash did a good job when Williams looked dazed after a hit, it's really hard to view it any other way than they were trying to hurt him.

They certainly accomplished rattling him but I think they were trying to do more than that.

[Snoogans]

You don't go out and try to injure people. That's scumbag shit, and Justin Tuck just three weeks ago was slamming the Falcons for doing just that.

You especially don't go out and try and fuck with someone's head in the literal sense.

thats why i really think they jsut meant they were gonna try to hit him hard, but clean, cause it means he rattles easy. i really cant imagine after the whole tuck falcons thing that they went to try to injure the kid, especially since watching the game, there was no indication they ever tried to hit anyone dirty. it doesnt make sense

[Kevin]

its not in danger if they were sayin they are gonna try to hit his head, which is illegal, then its a douchebag move. im becoming more and more shocked you arent a jets fan

Wait, didn't you just read that i don't think they tried hitting him in the head???

I'm saying they need to fucking keep guys out with concussion histories.

Its showing more and more with the older guys that its really dangerous.

[Snacks]

they are debating it now. they arent sure if the guys meant the fact he had them means he is soft and a clean hit should rattle him, which is possible, or if they were sayin they were head hunting.

i really hope the first way. if they were sayin we know he had concussion so if we hit him hard and clean we can rattle him and shake him up, thats fine. thats part of the game. they were kinda vague in how they said it.

If they were sayin they were tryin to hit him in the head, which i, at least, never saw them tryin to do, or it never seemed in game they were tryin to be dirty, but if thats what they were doing, then its fuckin disgusting.

i agree. this is football and you do hit guys hard so if they were doing it to rattle him fine but if they were on purpose head hunting to make him dizzy and to try and give him a concussion then that is fucked up.

[Snacks]

You don't go out and try to injure people. That's scumbag shit, and Justin Tuck just three weeks ago was slamming the Falcons for doing just that.

You especially don't go out and try and fuck with someone's head in the literal sense.

exactly. if you know a guy has bruised ribs its one thing to try and hit him hard knowing he will feel it but when a guy has a fucked up brain and to say you are going after that type of injury you are talking about 2 different situations. they might be legal and both might be dirty but one can hurt a guys season or career the other can shorten his life.

[Kevin]

Maybe they meant take him out of the game like mentally?

Like hit him hard so his head is not in it and he gets skiddish?

I'm just hoping that thats what they meant and this dummy just said it wrong..

[Snoogans]

Maybe they meant take him out of the game like mentally?

Like hit him hard so his head is not in it and he gets skiddish?

I'm just hoping that thats what they meant and this dummy just said it wrong..

im thinkin thats exactly what they meant. if not, it just doesnt fit everything about the team and the guys there. it would be so out of left field.

[TripleSkeet]

no, it wasnt. The second foot, not the first. this isnt college, they both have to get down while you are still in full possesion of the ball. That didnt happen

Thanks. I was about to say am I watching this wrong??? This video clearly proved the opposite of what he said.

[sailor]

it's a lot closer that either side is admitting.

[sailor]

Yea, I think they meant the latter...

But still if the guy is in danger of getting another concussion that much, then keep him out.

i don't think you get the concept of latter.

[Snoogans]

it's a lot closer that either side is admitting.

but its really not. The rule is you have to possess the ball, and get both feet down while still controlling the ball through the catch. Its really really close, but its also pretty clear that didnt happen. The call is obvious

[TripleSkeet]

but its really not. The rule is you have to possess the ball, and get both feet down while still controlling the ball through the catch. Its really really close, but its also pretty clear that didnt happen. The call is obvious

Exactly. If they didnt give Calvin Johnson that TD last year, this ione definitely shouldnt have counted.

[TripleSkeet]

What a bunch of faggots...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/01/24/ravens-kicking-consultant-cant-rule-out-new-england-patriots-cheating-in-afc-championship/

Pretty sure you couldve called timeout on either 3rd or 4th downs dipshits.

[Snoogans]

Exactly. If they didnt give Calvin Johnson that TD last year, this ione definitely shouldnt have counted.

well thats a bit different. when you go to ground you have to hold the ball through going to ground. when you are standing you just need both feet down with control and then its a TD. but he didnt have clear control of the ball when his second foot comes down, so although the play is close, its obvious what has to be called

the funniest part is, there have been so many terrible calls to kill refs on, this one they actually get right and this is the one people are making a big deal about

[Snoogans]

What a bunch of faggots...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/01/24/ravens-kicking-consultant-cant-rule-out-new-england-patriots-cheating-in-afc-championship/

Pretty sure you couldve called timeout on either 3rd or 4th downs dipshits.

awesome. they asked cundiff why he didnt just call timeout if he felt rushed and he said i didnt think of it. none of these guys knew shit about what was goin on, so the scoreboard didnt fuck up anything. call time out, and they didnt, so its on them. fuckin morons

[HBox]

Justin Tuck: Keep picking against us. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/24/justin-tuck-people-dont-give-us-a-shot-and-we-like-that/)

“A lot of people haven’t given us a shot, and I think we kind of like it that way,” Tuck said. “So for all you oddsmakers out there, just keep rooting against us.”

Oh shut the fuck up Justin. You were pretty much favorites last week, you were favorites in the wild card, you will probably end up with most experts picking you in the Super Bowl. Just SHUT THE FUCK UP. I fucking hate when teams are all "NO ONE BELIEVES IN US" when MOST FUCKING PEOPLE BELIEVE IN YOU ASSHOLE.

[Gutter]

Justin Tuck: Keep picking against us. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/24/justin-tuck-people-dont-give-us-a-shot-and-we-like-that/)



Oh shut the fuck up Justin. You were pretty much favorites last week, you were favorites in the wild card, you will probably end up with most experts picking you in the Super Bowl. Just SHUT THE FUCK UP. I fucking hate when teams are all "NO ONE BELIEVES IN US" when MOST FUCKING PEOPLE BELIEVE IN YOU ASSHOLE.

gotta stick with what works I guess. My bet making friend said that most bookies were actually going with the 49ers last sunday, but I never know or look at what the line or the over is.

[OGC]

What a bunch of faggots...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/01/24/ravens-kicking-consultant-cant-rule-out-new-england-patriots-cheating-in-afc-championship/

Pretty sure you couldve called timeout on either 3rd or 4th downs dipshits.



Win a couple more games and you can play the game at home.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Tampa Bay reportedly close to signing Greg Schiano away from Rutgers to be the new head coach.

[Earlshog]

Tampa Bay reportedly close to signing Greg Schiano away from Rutgers to be the new head coach.

Wow!

[cougarjake13]

I always find it curious to know what these guys think when they know they weren't first choice

Do they not care and r just happy to get the gig or r they kinda pissed but take the money

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I would think if you are going from college to the pros, most of them don't give a shit because it is a step up. More money, not having to deal with parents and shitty college kids is a plus too.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Schiano was making 2.5 and had a free house at Rutgers. I gotta wonder what kind of deal they're gonna cut him at Tampa.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Schiano was making 2.5 and had a free house at Rutgers. I gotta wonder what kind of deal they're gonna cut him at Tampa.

Probably a few wife beaters and trucker hats to fit in down there.

[Snoogans]

he better back out like chip kelly

[Earlshog]

he better back out like chip kelly

I hope so, but it dosen't look that way..... :wallbash:

[cougarjake13]

I hope so, but it dosen't look that way..... :wallbash:



Doesn't sound like it

[Earlshog]

Doesn't sound like it

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2012/01/greg_schiano_leaves_rutgers_to.html

its offical

[razorboy]

Schiano was making 2.5 and had a free house at Rutgers. I gotta wonder what kind of deal they're gonna cut him at Tampa.

No state income tax and the ability to buy a house not located in Piscataway.

Honestly I like it better than Chip Kelly. Kelly's offensive schemes as presently constituted were never going to work in the NFL and for a team in the Buccaneers with major discipline issues it was more than a little worrisome that Kelly had allowed his players to run roughshod over his program for the last three years.

[Judge Smails]

What a douchbag

Recruits, assistants caught unaware (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7506907/rutgers-scarlet-knight-recruits-wait-greg-schiano-never-arrives-meeting)


Greg Schiano was supposed to be at Don Bosco Preparatory School promptly at 8 a.m. Thursday morning to recruit some key prospects.

That never happened.

As scheduled, five Rutgers assistant coaches showed up at the Ramsey, N.J., school, which showcases several highly rated prospects each year. The coaches were focused on securing current commitment Leonte Carroo (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/120242/leonte-carroo), a three-star receiver, and Darius Hamilton (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/122858/darius-hamilton), a four-star defensive end who is primarily considering the Scarlet Knights and Florida.

"The coaches were kind of shocked," Don Bosco coach Greg Toal said. "They said 'Coach Schiano, he's never late for anything.' "

At first, the coaches thought Schiano might have gotten caught up in another meeting, despite the importance of the Don Bosco appointment.

"They didn't think it was any big deal," Toal said of their initial response. "They didn't know that he was in negotiations or anything like that."

Then, when reports began to surface that Schiano had accepted the head coaching job for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/tb/tampa-bay-buccaneers), the Rutgers' assistants were caught unaware.

"No one knows where this is going right now," Toal said. "I'm sure it caught a lot of people off guard."

With six days before national signing day, Rutgers suddenly finds itself in an incredible time crush to secure its 2012 class.

[Snoogans]

What a douchbag

Recruits, assistants caught unaware (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7506907/rutgers-scarlet-knight-recruits-wait-greg-schiano-never-arrives-meeting)

apparently quite a few current players and coaches are also pretty pissed off

[Snacks]

he better back out like chip kelly

why? if youre mad because it sucks for rutgers i agree but for him i think its a good move and wish him well. he did a lot of good for rutgers hopefully they can get a big name since the program has turned around a lot!

[Snacks]

What a douchbag

Recruits, assistants caught unaware (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7506907/rutgers-scarlet-knight-recruits-wait-greg-schiano-never-arrives-meeting)

yeah that does suck but there is a no win situation for him. if he waits 6 days and lets everyone sign the kids and parents will be pissed if he leaves right after. by leaving now he gives the families a few days to decide if they want to sign somewhere else but that hurts rutgers. so no matter what it was going to suck but he made a decision to go to the nfl and be a head coach. i cant fault a guy for that move.

[Snacks]

Rutgers has 21 current NFL players bama only has 5 more. That was interesting to hear.

[hanso]

Was glad to hear about the Bucs choice for HC as I want Mike Sherman to be the OC for Mia. He goes back with Joe Philbin the new HC.

[Snacks]

Was glad to hear about the Bucs choice for HC as I want Mike Sherman to be the OC for Mia. He goes back with Joe Philbin the new HC.

I read that he was interviewing with miami today but havent heard anything since. did miami hire him or what?

[hanso]

I read that he was interviewing with miami today but havent heard anything since. did miami hire him or what?

Nothing yet.


Wait
This looks promising
Report: Philbin Reuniting with Mike Sherman
http://www.wbay.com/story/16611602/2012/01/26/report-philbin-hiring-mike-sherman

[King Hippos Bandaid]

2.5 Mil , a Free House, being a demi god should be enough for most people.

giving up all of that for a 6-10 record and maybe 1 or 2 years before a shameful firing...

Is playing for the Bucs really an upgrade... The NFC South has 5-7 years of the Falcons Saints and Panthers all gonna be atleast .500 ....

[Earlshog]

2.5 Mil , a Free House, being a demi god should be enough for most people.

giving up all of that for a 6-10 record and maybe 1 or 2 years before a shameful firing...

Is playing for the Bucs really an upgrade... The NFC South has 5-7 years of the Falcons Saints and Panthers all gonna be atleast .500 ....

He gets 5 years guaranteed and more money. Worst case if he sucks he will be fired in three years still collect his money for the next two and then at that time he can either be a coordinator in the pro 's or go back to college.

If it works out and he turns the team around he is a successful pro coach and gets all the perks that come along with it.

[cougarjake13]

What I don't get is he wasn't a coach who bounced around from job to job he was at rutgers for 11 years and turned down offers from other schools so what was so enticing Bout the bucs job?

[ozzie]

What I don't get is he wasn't a coach who bounced around from job to job he was at rutgers for 11 years and turned down offers from other schools so what was so enticing Bout the bucs job?

If all else fails, he'll have this on his resumé, even if he ends up back in college.

Saban, Spurrier and Petrino all use their "NFL experience" as a recruiting tool to get kids to believe that they know what it takes, and can get them to the next level.

[cougarjake13]

If all else fails, he'll have this on his resumé, even if he ends up back in college.

Saban, Spurrier and Petrino all use their "NFL experience" as a recruiting tool to get kids to believe that they know what it takes, and can get them to the next level.

i guess although he already had nfl exp just not as head coach

[Snoogans]

i dont blame the guy for taking the job. its a MAJOR jump up. its just, do it weeks ago. rutgers hasnt played since dec 29th. the timing of it really fucks the school. thats the only reason im pissed. He didnt tell anyone he was even in the running. if he had said hey im interviewing, they mighta had a couple days to get a plan ready or talk to coaches. he left them FUCKED. thats why im pissed


And I want Mario Cristobal. Pitt tried to get him and he wouldnt leave FIU, so its not a lock he would come, but he coached here and i think rutgers would offer him enough incentive to come. GO GET HIM NOW

[Snoogans]

If all else fails, he'll have this on his resumé, even if he ends up back in college.

Saban, Spurrier and Petrino all use their "NFL experience" as a recruiting tool to get kids to believe that they know what it takes, and can get them to the next level.

Schiano was already using that though. The vast number of guys he gets signed as undrafteds was his big thing. Coaches love to sign RU guys cause they know even if they might be a little less talented, the coach had them alot more ready for the NFL than most NCAA coaches would. That was the best thing Schiano did was prepare kids for the NFL. thats the main reason (and stupid bill bellechik talkin about how awesome he is) that the NFL even called him

[Snacks]

Schiano was already using that though. The vast number of guys he gets signed as undrafteds was his big thing. Coaches love to sign RU guys cause they know even if they might be a little less talented, the coach had them alot more ready for the NFL than most NCAA coaches would. That was the best thing Schiano did was prepare kids for the NFL. thats the main reason (and stupid bill bellechik talkin about how awesome he is) that the NFL even called him

I agree and so far only 1 has been a headache and thats the asshole wr in tenn who has tons of talent.

[Kevin]

I agree and so far only 1 has been a headache and thats the asshole wr in tenn who has tons of talent.

Yea I think he being from Jersey is the only reason they chose Nicks over him.

Hell, the main times he has gotten in trouble while in the NFL was when he has been back in Jersey.

Nicks is a really good WR, but talent wise, Britt is better.

But Nicks seems like a good guy and Britt would have been a disaster here.

[Kevin]

Schiano was already using that though. The vast number of guys he gets signed as undrafteds was his big thing. Coaches love to sign RU guys cause they know even if they might be a little less talented, the coach had them alot more ready for the NFL than most NCAA coaches would. That was the best thing Schiano did was prepare kids for the NFL. thats the main reason (and stupid bill bellechik talkin about how awesome he is) that the NFL even called him

Any shot Bill did it to get his son the job or is it way too soon for him?

[spoon]

He will sit out this year. Like snacks said he will fuck them up with the salary cap next year. I understand your point but it just doesn't make any sense. The guy wants out and you make you team better by dumping him. You keep him and you have a circus that won't end.

Even more reason to dump him. Use Bruce Garkowski, or Daulton, or Tyler Thigpen this year. When you finish up 2 - 14 draft Luck as your QB of the future. If you would have traded Palmer to Seattle or The Skins you pick up and extra second round pick. Right now all Brown has is his dick in his hand

You set the precedent. This is the NFL. When a player demands a trade, you trade him. You dont keep him to make a point while punishing your team and its fanbase in the process. Oh and there is no way he wears a Bengals uniform this year. Even if that means he "retires".

Under contract means dick. I cant wait to see how many stupid Eagles fans start turning on Desean Jackson to "honor his contract". Fuck that. If he takes one play without redoing his deal hes stupid. If I was him Id say Ill honor my contract, once the NFL has to start honoring them.

My argument isn't that Mike Brown is a good owner or anything of that nature, but his stance here is logical and makes sense moving forward with EVERY contract players on his team signs. The value of Palmer too is up bc teams know they have to wow him to move him. It's not only a great stance to take, it may very well get his point out there to others and he'll still eventually trade him for MORE. If he's smart he would make Palmer come to camp first to even have the trade be approved and keep his mouth shut. In a history of shitty moves and logic by Brown, if he plays this out right it'll be a rare good move for him.

Ha! Love looking back at preseason arguments and discussions. As I stated before it happened, this was one move I agreed with even IF it didn't work out like I thought it would.

[spoon]

He will be a mentor for their rook qb and they have some good ties bt each other. On the surface it looks iffy, but to me it's not such a bad move since they weren't willing to pay the players needed to get Kolb and are investing in their draft pick. To be honest, good deal in the end. He's a mentor, good stopgap and can win games vet style as they did with Kerry Collins did for a while. He'll bring stability and a vet presence needed in the huddle for the young coach that finally gets to work with his players. Hell, he's gonna be handing off to CJ, so that helps too.

hit on this one too I'd say

[spoon]

Im so dissapointed the Eagles didnt fucking try and get him. Bob youre right, Haynesworth is gonna kick ass in New England, if for nothing else just to make Shanahan look bad. Between letting him get away, signing Babin instead of going after Ray Edwards, taking forever to trade Kolb and not giving Jackson what he deserves Im officially over Andy Reid. I cant fucking stand him.

Ooof! Babin vs Edwards, paying Jackson "what he deserves" and pissed they didn't go after Haynesworth!? TS gets the shitty calls of the year award!

[spoon]

Kolb trade done and eagles get a decent return for him, but now Eagles are one Vick injury away from who throwing the ball? I think job one should be getting a nice vet to back him up, Volek?

Chad 85 goes to NE and now needs to get that jersey I'm sure. How much does COC give the guy? MY guess something goofy and 100k!

VY, who the fuck would want him right now? Cincy maybe? They like garbage and it seems to work out well for a little while there and then disaster. The VY/Gradkowski combo would be hilarious for some reason. Oh wait, how about a Vick/Young combo vs having Franzs Kafka holding the clipboard?! Then again, he isn't called the Bohemian Bomber for nothing! Seriously, that name should stick/catch on.

Ha! Nailed the VY thing too, but the Bohemian Bomber would have kept them in the race better in my mind. As I stated above, one Vick injury did fuck the team in the end. That nickname does need to stick too...especially if he can toss it deep!

[spoon]

Former Bengal CB Joseph signs with Texans (much better value per $ vs NA)

This has to mean it's bt SF and NYJ for NA barring any late entrants. I think Houston was smart to get Joseph bc they can't sink so much into one player with all their needs on D. With this addition and Wade, they'll be much improved on D. Wade is one of those easily meant to be coordinators versus HC...you know, like SD's coach currently.

Hit on the Joseph comment, Wade and Houston D, but not NA as he ended up in Philly.

[spoon]

Talking about Kevin Kolb!

...Remember, this is the guy with a potential to throw 35 tds in his first year as a starter! Some NFL sage made that statement a few months back and I for one subscribe to his newsletter.
:innocent:

I hope he throws 30 this year you fucker.

He tossed 9 tds versus 8 picks in 9 games bc he can't stay healthy or hit his targets! Close TS!

:lol:

[spoon]

Actually, I forgot you guys got DRC too. Eagles had a really good off season.

Watch this, they'll get Plax too.

ha!

wrong so much it has become the norm

[spoon]

#85 playing for the Pats this year should be fun to watch...he'll defiantly get more touchdowns receptions than last year.

:lol:

[spoon]

I seriously see the Bears taking a huge fall this year. How the hell did they do what they did last year to be honest? I simply don't see how Lovie had a job to start last year? But hey, at least they have Captain Diabetes to lead them ... for a quarter or two a game. I say at their best they win 9 next year. However, I see an 8-8 record on the way.

BAM!

[spoon]

About the Jets signing Plax....and he nails the clowns comment since they added to their fucking circus they call a team this year...again.

maybe more pub, but the jets have never gotten more respect. they are clowns and everyone knows they are clowns

[spoon]

this is a jets town now, i know you hate it, i do too but it doesnt matter to me because i dont like either teams.

wow, so wrong (this was a response to the snoogans comment above)

[spoon]

ugh looks like a long season for my Giants.... less depth at O Line..no receiving tight end , less depth at WR .. no name linebackers , a disgruntled Osi and now to add insult to injury.. The Prince broke his foot on the way to Waldorf Astoria...

its gonna be a long season, thank god for Fantasy Football and the soon to be birth of my daughter in October

i thought panic time until hippo said how they suck and they are gonna struggle. Now im celebrating the future Giants SB victory

the giants WILL win the SB this year. You can laugh, but the last time I said that was 2007.


18-0.....1 more to go superbowowowowowowow

The giants are in trouble. The only good thing they did was keep Bradshaw at a cheep price....
I know miami isnt going anywhere either so I might as well stop you there. I think 8-8 for them too would be lucky 7-9 would be more likely. I would be excited if they made it to 9-7 but that wont happen til they get a new coach!

Being honest though, the Giants lost more games in weird ways than most last year. To me they aren't as bad as everyone likes to think, especially since they simply couldn't hold on to the ball. That can be fixed if coached right, and I'm sure it's a focus right now for many key players here. I'm not convinced they'll be out of the picture as much as some here think. In fact, I think they'll have a great shot at a playoff spot, with much of their hopes pending on simply holding on to the ball.

i agree. i think the lockout helps them alot too. for the most part, every single player who will be in a key role for the giants already knows the offense, the coaching staff, the timing with the QB. If they could learn to hold onto a fuckin football, i see no reason why they couldnt win more than the 10 games they won last year.

will they, who knows. its the fuckin giants. they will prob start 7-1 and finish 9-7

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?!?! The Giants deserve to finish last with how much they are fucking up this offseason. Steve Smith was only our Wes Welker, the guy you could count on to catch a lot of passes and gain a lot of yards to keep us moving down the field.

Sure, people can say he was hurt and they didn't want to take a chance. Well guess what? So was Wes Welker and look how that turned out.

...
As for the giants, they have plenty of WRs and Cruz should step in fine.

It's just too fucking funny and I can't stop reading all this. How the fuck did this start?! Yet it is awesome to see some live up to their legend (Hippo) and others make great calls.

[cougarjake13]

Yea I think he being from Jersey is the only reason they chose Nicks over him.

Hell, the main times he has gotten in trouble while in the NFL was when he has been back in Jersey.

Nicks is a really good WR, but talent wise, Britt is better.

But Nicks seems like a good guy and Britt would have been a disaster here.


I know they would never say it that's probably why Giants organization didn't pick him

[cougarjake13]

BAM!



It worked out but was in serious doubt when they were 7-4 and then lost cutler and forte

[Earlshog]

Ha! Love looking back at preseason arguments and discussions. As I stated before it happened, this was one move I agreed with even IF it didn't work out like I thought it would.

Cicny 2 - 14 I nailed that one :flush:

[Snacks]

Cicny 2 - 14 I nailed that one :flush:

where are our picks we all made preseason on victories? was it in this thread?

[Snoogans]

Any shot Bill did it to get his son the job or is it way too soon for him?

na his son is only like 24

[spoon]

It worked out but was in serious doubt when they were 7-4 and then lost cutler and forte

It's the bears, they always find ways to suck in the end...not to mention forte did a ton of lifting in the first half so you KNEW he'd break down in the second

[spoon]

Cicny 2 - 14 I nailed that one :flush:

yah but everyone thought this at least

dalton, green and company pretty much surprised everyone being so solid in year one

[spoon]

Yep and his career stats are terrible too. Bradys are so much better oh wait there actually not even close.

wait what?

they aren't?

how many times must someone show you they ARE! Even with this year missed, Peyton has three more full seasons over Brady, yet Tom may end up with 3 more SB titles too...surely 2 more. All one needs to do is take Tom's avg over his career and more recently even higher numbers to see he's at least on pace to be where Manning is in 3 years or so. not sure how you still haven't figured out saying shit doesn't make it so. facts aren't made by repeating false statements over and over again. you just sound like, well, snacks.

[Snoogans]

Schiano's house isnt free anymore:

Outgoing Rutgers coach Greg Schiano owes the school $800,000 in buyout and loan payments, according to Bloomberg News.

His contract calls for a $500,000 buyout, and there is $300,000 remaining on a home loan that also was arranged through his contract.

Schiano was officially introduced as the new coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs on Friday. He reportedly signed a five-year deal worth around $15 million.

[spoon]

sounds like he can cover that 800k quite easily...not to mention I'm sure TB may have to cover some if not all of that too

[cougarjake13]

sounds like he can cover that 800k quite easily...not to mention I'm sure TB may have to cover some if not all of that too



I wulda made it part of any deal before signing on
In addition to not part of contract

[OGC]

and they wonder why no one gives a shit about the pro bowl

[disneyspy]

and they wonder why no one gives a shit about the pro bowl

who the fuck is this guy and what the hell is he singing?

[OGC]

the least they could do for this worthless game is start it on time

[hanso]

So everyone hyped? Someones gonna get busted up! Like Pete Rose charging the plate.

[disneyspy]

the cullinary university,oh that jared allen is such a card

[disneyspy]

that VW commercial with the dogs barking the star wars was pretty sweet

[OGC]

that VW commercial with the dogs barking the star wars was pretty sweet


yeah, makes me want to buy a jetta

[OGC]

click

[Crash]

I know I'm overstating the obvious...

...but this shit's unwatchable.

At least it's consistent.

[Crash]

Anybody who says a dominant defense in the NFL is boring to watch, should watch an entire Pro-Bowl and then restate their position.

38 - 35. Christ on a pony.

[Crispy123]

Matching Hawaiian shirts on 3men who are watching and commenting on every move of dozens of other men, is gay.

[spoon]

Matching Hawaiian shirts on 3men who are watching and commenting on every move of dozens of other men, is gay.

what channel!? HURRY, I NEEDS TO KNOW!

:wink:

[TripleSkeet]

Anybody who says a dominant defense in the NFL is boring to watch, should watch an entire Pro-Bowl and then restate their position.

38 - 35. Christ on a pony.

Dominant defense is boring to watch when that same teams offense couldnt score in a womens prison with a fistfull of pardons.

[A.J.]

Matching Hawaiian shirts on 3men who are watching and commenting on every move of dozens of other men, is gay.

There's only two kind of guys who wear those shirts: gay guys and big, fat party animals.

[Earlshog]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7517666/carolina-panthers-change-team-logo-first-time

Panthers change logo for first time

[boobieman]

This is the reason the Eagles will be the death of me...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8267164b/article/bowles-to-join-eagles-as-dbs-coach-castillo-staying-on-as-dc?module=HP11_MYNFL

Keeping Castillo as DC is sort of shit. I think the worse part is that we are depending on Mr. Glass Vick...We are not going to even try to get a hot QB in the draft...

Ah this is just so fuckin frustrating...Fuckin Giants have a chance and the fuckin iggles going to do the same thing EVER YEAR...

Ok I'm out.

SEYEYAYAAA

[Kevin]

You guys need WRs who are taller than 5'10 or don't almost die of ailments in pre seasons.

[HBox]

You guys need WRs who are taller than 5'10 or don't almost die of ailments in pre seasons.

The WRs were the least of the Eagles problems last year even with DeSean Jackson playing like ass for almost all of the year.

[TripleSkeet]

The WRs were the least of the Eagles problems last year even with DeSean Jackson playing like ass for almost all of the year.

Exactly. Our offense wasnt the problem. It was a couple of key turnovers and a defense that couldnt stop a fucking nosebleed. They used their performance in the final 4 games against tin cans to justify giving this fucking mexican another year on the job. I cant fucking believe they let Spags walk to New Orleans. That addition alone makes them NFC favorites next year as far as Im concerned.

[TripleSkeet]

Ooof! Babin vs Edwards, paying Jackson "what he deserves" and pissed they didn't go after Haynesworth!? TS gets the shitty calls of the year award!

I still think they should pay Desean Jackson. He means more to this offense then you realize. If they dont get some fucking speed receiver in the draft you can say goodbye to all those Macklin and Celek over the middle receptions. Watch some of the game tape, the fucking safeties play him 30 yards deep.

Babin did well though. And the reason I wanted Haynesworth was because he would be cheap and the risk /reward was worth it. If he could play youd have had a gamer. As shown, once he showed he couldnt play you cut him and lose peanuts. I stand by that statement.

[boobieman]

I still think they should pay Desean Jackson. He means more to this offense then you realize. If they dont get some fucking speed receiver in the draft you can say goodbye to all those Macklin and Celek over the middle receptions. Watch some of the game tape, the fucking safeties play him 30 yards deep.

Babin did well though. And the reason I wanted Haynesworth was because he would be cheap and the risk /reward was worth it. If he could play youd have had a gamer. As shown, once he showed he couldnt play you cut him and lose peanuts. I stand by that statement.

I like DeShawn, but they need to get him more active. He is fast, but watching the routes he runs and they are just speed. and a few times during this year he had the alligator arms...he has to stop that.

Celek was a beast this year and I think he is going to stay that way, he is big, he can catch and once he gets those feet moving he can bowl over guys. Celek got fucked and should of been in the pro bowl.

The biggest problem with the offense is Vick, I like Vick, but he threw way too many interceptions and everytime he gets hit, I was like bring out the strecher.

Iggles need to trade up on the draft, and get a hot running QB, but they won't. Draft a good QB now, keep Vick as starter, then next year Vick is back up. That to me makes the most sense.

Either way I will bitch all year, then start of next season, I will be hyped and then we will see. Just annoys me, with Mcnabb's last year, we stumble into the playoffs and out first game, with Vick as starter first year, we stumble into the playoffs and out first gamer. And this year, we just stumble.

Iggles will be the Death of me...or the beer

SEYEYAYAAAA

[cougarjake13]

So u want rg3?

[ozzie]

So u want rg3?

You'd have to trade WAY up to land him.

Russell Wilson didn't look great in the Senior Bowl game itself... but no one really gives a shit about the "game". It's all about what they do in the practices that week, and from all reports, Wilson looked pretty good.

I usually make it out to at least one of the practices, but work didn't allow it this year.

I don't know why I'm rooting for this kid so much, but even after he snubbed Auburn for Wisconsin, I've become a Russell Wilson fan. I was originally thinking he might slip to the 3rd or 4th round, but I think he improved his value this last week, and there's still the combines to show the skills. First round might be too LOFTY of an expectation, but maybe second.

And between his bowl game and the Senior Bowl, Kirk Cousins seems to be impressing as well.

[boobieman]

So u want rg3?

Would fit in well with our offense..but I would take Payton right now.

SEEYYAYAAA

[TripleSkeet]

I like DeShawn, but they need to get him more active. He is fast, but watching the routes he runs and they are just speed. and a few times during this year he had the alligator arms...he has to stop that.

Celek was a beast this year and I think he is going to stay that way, he is big, he can catch and once he gets those feet moving he can bowl over guys. Celek got fucked and should of been in the pro bowl.

The biggest problem with the offense is Vick, I like Vick, but he threw way too many interceptions and everytime he gets hit, I was like bring out the strecher.

Iggles need to trade up on the draft, and get a hot running QB, but they won't. Draft a good QB now, keep Vick as starter, then next year Vick is back up. That to me makes the most sense.

Either way I will bitch all year, then start of next season, I will be hyped and then we will see. Just annoys me, with Mcnabb's last year, we stumble into the playoffs and out first game, with Vick as starter first year, we stumble into the playoffs and out first gamer. And this year, we just stumble.

Iggles will be the Death of me...or the beer

SEYEYAYAAAA

Alligator arms are what you get when you let a small receiver get paid less than your long snapper. Hell be catching bombs for Tom Brady next year though.

Personally, Im tired of the running quarterback. Im fucking over it. I LOVED Randall. But weve pretty much gone from him to McNabb, to Vick, and Young behind him. I want a pocket passer. Its cool if he can run, Id just rather it be a small part of his game.

By the way, whats this? Super Bowl 46? Thats runs the count up to 45-1.

[cougarjake13]

By the way, whats this? Super Bowl 46? Thats runs the count up to 45-1.


For what ?

[Earlshog]

For what ?

White Qb's v Black Qb's????

[Snacks]

White Qb's v Black Qb's????

i think he means running/mobile qb vs pocket passer.

[cougarjake13]

White Qb's v Black Qb's????



Couldn't be u got Doug Williams and McNair and Mcnabb but only Williams won so maybe he meant that


I thought he meant eagles in super bowl but they've gone twice

[cougarjake13]

i think he means running/mobile qb vs pocket passer.


I doubt it cause even the running ones are still good pocket passers like rodgers big Ben Mcnabb McNair

No true running qbs

[Snoogans]

i think he means running/mobile qb vs pocket passer.

no, its triple skeet. He definitely meant black vs white. Cause otherwise, steve young and his SB would count toward the 1 side.

[Tenbatsuzen]

There's only two kind of guys who wear those shirts: gay guys and big, fat party animals.

http://cdn03.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/george-clooney-descendants-set-photos-04032010-15-400x470.jpg

[cougarjake13]

no, its triple skeet. He definitely meant black vs white. Cause otherwise, steve young and his SB would count toward the 1 side.



Well if true then he's horrible at math and vision

[spoon]

Celek was a beast this year and I think he is going to stay that way, he is big, he can catch and once he gets those feet moving he can bowl over guys. Celek got fucked and should of been in the pro bowl.



So who shouldn't be there in his wake? Bc to me Graham was a NO BRAINER and Gonzalez was ridiculous and a long time fav/great still playing at an extremely high level. He was ranked 3rd in the NFC in yards and had 18 more catches and 64 yards and 2 more tds. Graham makes them all look silly in every category. Yet if anyone got the snub, it was Witten, not Celek and the ~5 other guys with similar stats at the position. Hell if Fred Davis didn't get the 4 game suspension, he'd likely be the #2 guy and almost put up the same numbers with 4 less games and look what he had throwing him the ball.

[spoon]

no, its triple skeet. He definitely meant black vs white. Cause otherwise, steve young and his SB would count toward the 1 side.

Well let's be fair, he was clearly toss first and run here and there after progressing through reads or pressured badly. That year he didn't run much outside of near the end zone too. He only had like 250 yards on the ground all year (~17 yards a game) and in that SB he torched SD in the air to the tune of 6 tds.

[cougarjake13]

So who shouldn't be there in his wake? Bc to me Graham was a NO BRAINER and Gonzalez was ridiculous and a long time fav/great still playing at an extremely high level. He was ranked 3rd in the NFC in yards and had 18 more catches and 64 yards and 2 more tds. Graham makes them all look silly in every category. Yet if anyone got the snub, it was Witten, not Celek and the ~5 other guys with similar stats at the position. Hell if Fred Davis didn't get the 4 game suspension, he'd likely be the #2 guy and almost put up the same numbers with 4 less games and look what he had throwing him the ball.


He's just homer simpsoning his guy is all

[hanso]

This is the reason the Eagles will be the death of me...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8267164b/article/bowles-to-join-eagles-as-dbs-coach-castillo-staying-on-as-dc?module=HP11_MYNFL

Keeping Castillo as DC is sort of shit. I think the worse part is that we are depending on Mr. Glass Vick...We are not going to even try to get a hot QB in the draft...

Ah this is just so fuckin frustrating...Fuckin Giants have a chance and the fuckin iggles going to do the same thing EVER YEAR...

Ok I'm out.

SEYEYAYAAA

Heard Eagles D was 7 or 8th overall.....ture?

[TripleSkeet]

no, its triple skeet. He definitely meant black vs white. Cause otherwise, steve young and his SB would count toward the 1 side.

This man knows me well.

[TripleSkeet]

Heard Eagles D was 7 or 8th overall.....ture?

10th in Passing D, 16th in rushing D, 14th in take/giveaways and 8th overall. Which truly shows how worthless some stats are.

They padded those D stats in late games against dogshit offensive teams like Washington, Jets and Miami. When they played teams with some offense like New England, Buffalo and Atlanta they got SHREDDED. Also, come 4th quarter they couldnt hold a lead if their lives depended on it.

They have 3 of the best cover corners in the league on their team, and they put them in zone coverage with linebackers and safeties that cant play. Then get mad when they tackle like shit, when tackling has never been part of their game.

Youve got a D line coach in Washburn who actually gets in the face of the offensive coordinator on live TV and still keeps his job. He gets pressure on the QB but refuses to budge from the wide 9 to better help hide the weaknesses on D. He actually tells the coordinator what defense they have to play. What a fucking joke.

[Snoogans]

This man knows me well.

i know the man, i know the area.

[boobieman]

He's just homer simpsoning his guy is all

Yes I am homering...but he had the best Stats for the team. Just felt he should of gone. Maybe if he went, he would of not been in a car with a drunk...sort of like my wife. And I meet the guy a few times, and was always cool. So yes I am.

SEEYYAAAA

[cougarjake13]

Yes I am homering...but he had the best Stats for the team. Just felt he should of gone. Maybe if he went, he would of not been in a car with a drunk...sort of like my wife. And I meet the guy a few times, and was always cool. So yes I am.

SEEYYAAAA


Best stats on the team that's like saying a normal guy on a retard team has the best stats should go


Suld mike Williams on the bucs should of gone cause he had the bet stats on bucs?

This ain't MLB where every team has a representative

[boobieman]

I know but felt that he should of gotten the nod...thats all

SEEYAYAA

[Snacks]

There have been many team so called "fight songs" and I just heard this one.

Make we want to go to Mo's.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_fkmX3uM6g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[ozzie]

Those are not pants.

But I'm not complaining.

Still love chicks in jerseys, but lose the turtleneck.

[HBox]

God that was awful. I need to cleanse the pallet.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DUkBaz8cHas" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ah that's better. I missed you Joey Baseballs.

[cougarjake13]

God that was awful. I need to cleanse the pallet.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DUkBaz8cHas" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[=navy]Ah that's better. I missed you Joey Baseballs.[/color]



That s fucking horrendous

[cougarjake13]

Those are not pants.

But I'm not complaining.

Still love chicks in jerseys, but lose the turtleneck.


Not bad looking

Song was gay

[HBox]

That s fucking horrendous

Every one of these is horrendous.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uvEujW_KVnI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Snoogans]

Every one of these is horrendous.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uvEujW_KVnI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

vegas....the BIG ROOMS


best song ever i think

[Snoogans]

There have been many team so called "fight songs" and I just heard this one.

Make we want to go to Mo's.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_fkmX3uM6g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

is she related to art? id hit it

[Snacks]

is she related to art? id hit it

if art is the owner of modells then i think yes. they said on the radio that she was the daughter of the owner of modells.

[Snoogans]

if art is the owner of modells then i think yes. they said on the radio that she was the daughter of the owner of modells.

art was the guy who started it, but he is so old there is no way thats his daughter, so he musta given it to his son who owns it now.

Damn, then id really hit it, cause she is a fuckin billionaire.

Why isnt she, ya know, a ravens fan?

edit: apparently arts grandfather started it in like 1890 holy shit. anyway yea, she is art's granddaughter

[spoon]

and that store if fucking AWFUL


I have never bought a thing there as it's always junk sports shit and crappy old styles of shoes and tons of socks.

[ozzie]

anyway yea, she is art's granddaughter

Then I'd definitely Grudge Fuck the shit out of her just to ease the pain of what grandpa did to my beloved Browns.

Hope that new stadium in Baltimore was fucking worth it, deek.

[TripleSkeet]

Listening to Ron talk to someone about the Super Bowl and QBs. Didnt get to hear the whole conversation but walked in to hear Ronnie saying "So Marino should just be out there selling pencils..." and started cracking the fuck up.

[Snoogans]

Listening to Ron talk to someone about the Super Bowl and QBs. Didnt get to hear the whole conversation but walked in to hear Ronnie saying "So Marino should just be out there selling pencils..." and started cracking the fuck up.

awesome. He will have a booth outside sellin isotoner gloves

[Earlshog]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/02/03/goodell-nfl.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp


INDIANAPOLIS (AP) The NFL is increasing the number of Thursday night games so more of its teams can play in prime time.

Commissioner Roger Goodell said that there will be Thursday night games on the NFL Network from the second to the 15th week of the season, giving all of the league's teams a chance to appear in prime time on some outlet.

Its a smart move, helps the NFL network.

They should put the shittier games on early in the year so you don't know they're shitty yet.

EDIT

I will not post again until after the bowl.... All those 4's just freaked me out.... Let go get number 4!!!! Go G-men!!!!!!!!!!! SEE-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[spoon]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/02/03/goodell-nfl.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp


INDIANAPOLIS (AP) The NFL is increasing the number of Thursday night games so more of its teams can play in prime time.

Commissioner Roger Goodell said that there will be Thursday night games on the NFL Network from the second to the 15th week of the season, giving all of the league's teams a chance to appear in prime time on some outlet.

Its a smart move, helps the NFL network.

They should put the shittier games on early in the year so you don't know they're shitty yet.

EDIT

I will not post again until after the bowl.... All those 4's just freaked me out.... Let go get number 4!!!! Go G-men!!!!!!!!!!! SEE-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You mean 4 Super Bowl titles for Tom Brady right?

:drunk:

[hanso]

You mean 4 Super Bowl titles for Tom Brady right?

:drunk:

4 get Tom Brady

[underdog]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/02/03/goodell-nfl.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp


INDIANAPOLIS (AP) The NFL is increasing the number of Thursday night games so more of its teams can play in prime time.

Commissioner Roger Goodell said that there will be Thursday night games on the NFL Network from the second to the 15th week of the season, giving all of the league's teams a chance to appear in prime time on some outlet.

Its a smart move, helps the NFL network.

They should put the shittier games on early in the year so you don't know they're shitty yet.

EDIT

I will not post again until after the bowl.... All those 4's just freaked me out.... Let go get number 4!!!! Go G-men!!!!!!!!!!! SEE-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Time Warner better get the fucking NFL Network.

[PapaBear]

I'm locking this thread. For general off season discussion, please post HERE (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91548). For Superbowl XLVI discussion, please post HERE (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91549).