2011-12 NFL Season

[spoon]

You dont see the difference?

Everyone does except Matt.

[Snoogans]

by applying the goodell axiom, tenbatz drives drunk, abuses women, and is all around a dick, since he is defendin it

[spoon]

I guess I should defend hockey fighting, fucking asians and drinking red wine with dinner.

[epo]

by applying the goodell axiom, tenbatz drives drunk, abuses women, and is all around a dick, since he is defendin it

By using the Goodell Axiom, I theorize that Matty throws footballs at women in tight pants and takes pictures of his weiner while wearing crocs proving his lack of common sense.

[Snoogans]

I guess I should defend hockey fighting, fucking asians and drinking red wine with dinner.

you have to defend the wine part anyway

[Tenbatsuzen]

OOooo OOO, do my team next! :thumbup:

Norv.

[Tenbatsuzen]

yea you helped prove the point. Fassel was run out of the league after. WE DIDNT KEEP HIM


And the Jets didn't keep Favre. He was still under contract with the Jets, and they released him.

[Snoogans]

And the Jets didn't keep Favre. He was still under contract with the Jets, and they released him.

yea they released him cause he retired and asked them to you dummy. Stop deflecting. You are so wrong

[spoon]

Norv.

Stupidity isn't the topic. If so, the Spanos family and Al Davis in Oakland take the immediate top seeds since Millen left Detroit. Well I guess SF is in the hunt of late, along with Cincy.

[Tenbatsuzen]

yea they released him cause he retired and asked them to you dummy. Stop deflecting. You are so wrong

Favre retired under the Packers and they didn't release him even though he asked. Maybe the Jets knew something but didn't want to throw him under the bus.

[Snoogans]

seriously, what the fuck did norv do beside blow at coaching? this is about character, not ability. and there were so many charger places to go

[spoon]

Norv.

Yet it's important to add that Norv isn't a bad guy in any respect. He does a TON of charity work (MS one of his causes), lives a respectable life and has never had any issues in the media or with teams.

Bad coach yes, bad person linked to a dirty organization, not so much.

[Snoogans]

Favre retired under the Packers and they didn't release him even though he asked. Maybe the Jets knew something but didn't want to throw him under the bus.

or maybe the jets just did him a favor cause they dont care what people do and still helped him out after being a scumbag cause he wanted to be free so he could sign in minnie

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yes, what a shock he'd continue to be an ignorant asshole. THAT'S the point Matt.


He's an ignorant asshole for having his headphones on? In the Ipod thing, HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.


As for the charges, who cares one way or the other. It's reported they pushed her/intimidated her not to press charges from a ton of media reports. Either way (case is on or not) do you think he didn't do it?! Are you on the Jet staff or something?

I'm sure it's out there somewhere, but I just don't think it matters enough to find it.

I searched the accuser's name for google news reports. Her name turned up twice in "Year in Review" stories, but NOTHING about the case being re-opened.

If it was a legitimate case, why would the cops pressure her to drop it? THe cops have NOTHING to gain by letting him go. It's not like NYC cops looking the other way for a NY player. It was Orlando police.

The only person who said she was "pressured to drop it" was coming from the person who was filing a lawsuit. she wants money. No criminal prosecution.

[Snoogans]

He's an ignorant asshole for having his headphones on? In the Ipod thing, HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.



I searched the accuser's name for google news reports. Her name turned up twice in "Year in Review" stories, but NOTHING about the case being re-opened.

If it was a legitimate case, why would the cops pressure her to drop it? THe cops have NOTHING to gain by letting him go. It's not like NYC cops looking the other way for a NY player. It was Orlando police.

The only person who said she was "pressured to drop it" was coming from the person who was filing a lawsuit. she wants money. No criminal prosecution.
ok. ben rothlisberger didnt get charged either. What a wonderful citizen he must be too

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yet it's important to add that Norv isn't a bad guy in any respect. He does a TON of charity work (MS one of his causes), lives a respectable life and has never had any issues in the media or with teams.

Bad coach yes, bad person linked to a dirty organization, not so much.

it was a joke, stop getting so fucking worked up.

[epo]

Wait, someone call Gvac.

Gvac would've admitted defeat a long time ago.

[spoon]

Didn't do anything wrong? He was pulled from the plane and had to be addressed by the authorities because he thought he could tell people doing their job to pretty much fuck themselves, I'm Santonio Holmes bitch. Fuck that. It's one thing if some idiot was trying to be a prick to him and get their name out there, this simply wasn't the case or even close to being an isolated incident with him. Didn't he have a "sit down meeting" with Rex about this too? Come on man, really?

As for the case, i guess there too you assume he did nothing right? He pretty much admitted it and told her and others to fuck themselves (so expected and right on par with his character).

[spoon]

Yet it's important to add that Norv isn't a bad guy in any respect. He does a TON of charity work (MS one of his causes), lives a respectable life and has never had any issues in the media or with teams.

Bad coach yes, bad person linked to a dirty organization, not so much.

it was a joke, stop getting so fucking worked up.

Yes Matt I got the joke, hence the "yet it's important to add" start. One part me putting out there I don't hate him personally, second part just to add to the topic / difference in organizations. Got it? End game baby!

[epo]

Since the Jets aren't the best on the field, they've decided to dominate the field of douchebaggery in a league full of douchebags.

Well played Woody Johnson!

[spoon]

ok. ben rothlisberger didnt get charged either. What a wonderful citizen he must be too

And even there, look at how Pitt handled it. The Rooney family has shown just how embarrassed they are with both the Holmes and Ben issues, even Cowher touched on this in the past on tv. They didn't make excuses for them, they almost cut both. Two of their biggest stars and former championship players who were some of the biggest members of said teams. Holmes got the axe and Ben was left to the mercy of the NFL and then stripped of his team captaincy. He's getting his last shot right now mainly bc of what he did for the team in the past. One rung down the ladder more he'd be gone already and it was pretty fucking close even so.

[spoon]

Since the Jets aren't the best on the field, they've decided to dominate the field of douchebaggery in a league full of douchebags.

Well played Woody Johnson!

They really have taken over since the Raiders are now quiet and somehow went 8-8. And the Bengals found a way to keep it's wide receivers (think about it) of Johnson, Owens and even Matt Jones in training camp. Poor fucking WR coach! Chris Henry falling out of a truck sure saved him from suicide I'm sure.

[TripleSkeet]

Matty why do you even care? They are your team right? Well ignore the dumb shit and just root for them to win. And if and when they do poubnd your chest man.

Sorry but I really dont care what these guys do off the field. Especially when it concerns 2 money chasing women. Fuck both of them. In my opinion if youre sexually harrassed at work and dont report it within 2 weeks it should be considered over and done with. These chicks are just looking for a handout. To me that worse then anything the Jets have done.

[TripleSkeet]

In other news I made a bet with a friend of mine tonight regarding the New Orleans / Seattle game this week. He already owed me $50 over a McNabb bet, so he gave me 4/1 odds on Seattle outright. I was gonna let the 50 slide anyway so I took it. If New Orleans wins we are even. If Seattle wins he has to give me $250 and a Charlie Whitehurst jersey.

[Snoogans]

In other news I made a bet with a friend of mine tonight regarding the New Orleans / Seattle game this week. He already owed me $50 over a McNabb bet, so he gave me 4/1 odds on Seattle outright. I was gonna let the 50 slide anyway so I took it. If New Orleans wins we are even. If Seattle wins he has to give me $250 and a Charlie Whitehurst jersey.

so with the 250 and the jersey, you would be up like 175

[spoon]

In other news I made a bet with a friend of mine tonight regarding the New Orleans / Seattle game this week. He already owed me $50 over a McNabb bet, so he gave me 4/1 odds on Seattle outright. I was gonna let the 50 slide anyway so I took it. If New Orleans wins we are even. If Seattle wins he has to give me $250 and a Charlie Whitehurst jersey.

Not an easy place to play, but the Saint will win. Cover is a whole other story pending on where the line falls.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And even there, look at how Pitt handled it. The Rooney family has shown just how embarrassed they are with both the Holmes and Ben issues, even Cowher touched on this in the past on tv. They didn't make excuses for them, they almost cut both. Two of their biggest stars and former championship players who were some of the biggest members of said teams. Holmes got the axe and Ben was left to the mercy of the NFL and then stripped of his team captaincy. He's getting his last shot right now mainly bc of what he did for the team in the past. One rung down the ladder more he'd be gone already and it was pretty fucking close even so.

So what does that say about Pitt that they kept Ben over Santonio? Ben's alleged behavior is much, much worse than Santonio's alleged behavior.

They kept the guy with more talent even though he has bigger character issues. Pitt's all class, indeed.

[TripleSkeet]

Not an easy place to play, but the Saint will win. Cover is a whole other story pending on where the line falls.

Yea Im sure. I just figured it wouldnt cost me anything to root for an upset.

[spoon]

Yea Im sure. I just figured it wouldnt cost me anything to root for an upset.

heart of gold iz tellz ya

[TripleSkeet]

so with the 250 and the jersey, you would be up like 175

Are you nuts? You think they have Whitehurst jerseys available? Hes gonna probably have to have that shit custom made. It may cost him more then the 250.

[spoon]

So what does that say about Pitt that they kept Ben over Santonio? Ben's alleged behavior is much, much worse than Santonio's alleged behavior.

They kept the guy with more talent even though he has bigger character issues. Pitt's all class, indeed.

It's one guy and I'm not even defending the actions overall like you are over and over again with the Jets. See the dif?

[Snoogans]

So what does that say about Pitt that they kept Ben over Santonio? Ben's alleged behavior is much, much worse than Santonio's alleged behavior.

They kept the guy with more talent even though he has bigger character issues. Pitt's all class, indeed.

stop deflecting, this is about the jets. im not gonna defend ben, he did enough things that he should be cut and i wont give the steelers a pass, but thats an argument for another time. this is about the jets and you defending what they did, not you ripping other teams for doing stuff. And you took known garbage. At least the steelers guys werent garbage before they got them. the jets knew these people were trash and still took them, big difference

[Snoogans]

Are you nuts? You think they have Whitehurst jerseys available? Hes gonna probably have to have that shit custom made. It may cost him more then the 250.

way to get the joke about a charlie whitehurst jersey being worth -75 bucks

[spoon]

Are you nuts? You think they have Whitehurst jerseys available? Hes gonna probably have to have that shit custom made. It may cost him more then the 250.

i believe it was a joke saying the jersey is worth negative $ bc it's a Seattle WHITEHURST jersey

:lol:

[Tenbatsuzen]

stop deflecting, this is about the jets. im not gonna defend ben, he did enough things that he should be cut and i wont give the steelers a pass, but thats an argument for another time. this is about the jets and you defending what they did, not you ripping other teams for doing stuff. And you took known garbage. At least the steelers guys werent garbage before they got them. the jets knew these people were trash and still took them, big difference

MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE JETS DIDN'T KNOW FAVRE WAS A CREEP UNTIL TWO YEARS AFTER HE WAS DONE WITH THE TEAM.

[TripleSkeet]

way to get the joke about a charlie whitehurst jersey being worth -75 bucks

I did get it! That was my point. That the jersey is actually worth more then the actual bet.

[Snoogans]

MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE JETS DIDN'T KNOW FAVRE WAS A CREEP UNTIL TWO YEARS AFTER HE WAS DONE WITH THE TEAM.

AND OUR WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE JETS OVERALL ARE SCUM AND THIS ISNT ABOUT FAVRE. YOU TOOK EDWARDS WHO IS A SCUMBAG AND YOU TOOK HOLMES WHO IS A SCUMBAG AND YOU HIRED COACHES WHO ARE LYING SCUMBAGS. THIS ISNT JUST ABOUT BRETT FAVRE YOU DUMB BASTARD

[spoon]

little known fact, whitehurst was known to send cock picks to reporters, toss glasses at "bitches" and trip the Rivers and Volek on the sidelines in hopes of moving up the ranks

Norv and Spanos moved him bc the organization is nothing but PURE CLASS!

:devil2:

[spoon]

MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE JETS DIDN'T KNOW FAVRE WAS A CREEP UNTIL TWO YEARS AFTER HE WAS DONE WITH THE TEAM.

And the rest?

[Snoogans]

I did get it! That was my point. That the jersey is actually worth more then the actual bet.

no, the jersey cost more than the bet. Its not worth anywhere near it. You know, kinda like Ryan Howard is. He costs all that money, but he isnt worth it.

[spoon]

Oh and they dump great character guys like Woodhead!

:lol::lol::lol:

[spoon]

AND OUR WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE JETS OVERALL ARE SCUM AND THIS ISNT ABOUT FAVRE. YOU TOOK EDWARDS WHO IS A SCUMBAG AND YOU TOOK HOLMES WHO IS A SCUMBAG AND YOU HIRED COACHES WHO ARE LYING SCUMBAGS. THIS ISNT JUST ABOUT BRETT FAVRE YOU DUMB BASTARD

don't forget Cro Island

[Snoogans]

Oh and they dump great character guys like Woodhead!

:lol::lol::lol:

for scumbags like joe mcknight who took money in college and acted like assholes when they got there

[Snoogans]

don't forget Cro Island

damn, i forgot about that. And that class act that we all know Revis is. Fuckin losers. I hope the jets beat Indy so Tom Brady can shit all over them again

[Tenbatsuzen]

And the rest?

You were all the ones who brought up Holmes, Braylon, etc. The main point of this conversation was the lawsuit that was brought up. You give me shit for deflecting a conversation, well, why the fuck was Braylon, Santonio, etc. brought up since Santonio's kept his nose clean since coming to the Jets outside of the ipod issue?

[Snoogans]

You were all the ones who brought up Holmes, Braylon, etc. The main point of this conversation was the lawsuit that was brought up. You give me shit for deflecting a conversation, well, why the fuck was Braylon, Santonio, etc. brought up since Santonio's kept his nose clean since coming to the Jets outside of the ipod issue?

no, we brought up the lawsuit. the main point was it was another example of the organization the Jets are. Then we brought up other examples of that. You were the one who kept bringing up favre. We talked about the franchize (get it) as a whole being garbage, with this the latest in a string of many, many examples

Even your fuckin heroes like Namath and Mark Gastinaeu and them are all fuckin scumbags. Its the Jets way. PLAY LIKE A JET, BABY

[spoon]

ipod issue?

i guess it was a defective hard drive?! ha! funny

the conversation was about the org and how you always defend it when in the wrong

[spoon]

It's ALMOST worth it to pay the $1.99 for this app to make something just for Matty, but there is NO WAY in hell I'm giving a dime to that org or fucktard. If only this said Matty! So think Matty on this...as if you could think of anyone else.

Fucking hilarious!


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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Justice4all]

Perhaps he's just a foot loving swinger like their new coach and wife!? It's not illegal but still comical to say the least.

Well you know...one mans' trash is another mans big toe!

[Justice4all]

Oh and they dump great character guys like Woodhead!

:lol::lol::lol:

THANK you for bringing that up.
That had to be one of the dumbest moves the Jets pulled. Woodhead just proved his worth time and time again. And after showing it on Hard Knocks, and Rex talking about Woodhead and his heart...they fucking cut him.
Way to go man!























Still gonna root for them though.

[spoon]

Still gonna root for them though.



that's why ur an idiot

y not just eat the afterbirth of your Giant team

[Dan 'Hampton]

So in the offseason, when not sucking the yankees dick, Michael Kay spends his time sucking the Jets dick?
Yesterday he said he's heard personally from players who played for Belichick and then for Ryan that they'd much rather play for Ryan because they're allowed to be themselves, instead of winning championships apparently. Who is he talking about? Kevin Oconnel? Damien Woody(1 ring) and Larry Izzo (Multiple rings, and a team captain with the Pats)? Amazing.

[underdog]

THANK you for bringing that up.
That had to be one of the dumbest moves the Jets pulled. Woodhead just proved his worth time and time again. And after showing it on Hard Knocks, and Rex talking about Woodhead and his heart...they fucking cut him.
Way to go man!

Woodhead probably wouldn't have done anything on the Jets. And they gave McKnight one chance in the final game and he ran for 158 yards.

Woodhead looks great because he's playing on a spectacular offence behind an amazing OL.

[Snacks]

Woodhead probably wouldn't have done anything on the Jets. And they gave McKnight one chance in the final game and he ran for 158 yards.

Woodhead looks great because he's playing on a spectacular offence behind an amazing OL.

you could have run for 158 against the bills. they were the worst rush def in the league this year. i think thats why they gave that kid a start was to try to build his confidence. they should have kept woodhead and cut mcknight.

[underdog]

you could have run for 158 against the bills. they were the worst rush def in the league this year. i think thats why they gave that kid a start was to try to build his confidence. they should have kept woodhead and cut mcknight.

The Patriots offensive line will make any RB look good. Look at Green-Ellis.

[Snoogans]

The Patriots offensive line will make any RB look good. Look at Green-Ellis.

What was Maroney's problem then?

[underdog]

What was Maroney's problem then?

The line wasn't as strong and he never got consistent playing time (and when he did, he'd fuck up once and not play for the next month). He also liked to "juke" and run sideways, which doesn't particularly work with the line. You need to run straight forward.

I think there must be some attitude and training issues with him, as well. He got traded to Denver then barely played at all.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The Jets O-Line is no slouch either. But for the record, the Jets didn't cut Woodhead for McKnight, Woodhead was cut for David Clowney, who was then cut two or three weeks later.

That said, the Jets cutting Woodhead I feel is the biggest boneheaded move they did all season.

[cougarjake13]

The Jets O-Line is no slouch either. But for the record, the Jets didn't cut Woodhead for McKnight, Woodhead was cut for David Clowney, who was then cut two or three weeks later.

That said, the Jets cutting Woodhead I feel is the biggest boneheaded move they did all season.

esp if the guy they cut him for only lasted another few weeks

yeh hindsight is 20-20 but he had to be showing something in jets camp no ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

esp if the guy they cut him for only lasted another few weeks

yeh hindsight is 20-20 but he had to be showing something in jets camp no ??

What's worse is, the Hard Knocks show constantly painted Clowney as not a very good player - he had speed but didn't have "football sense". Westhoff was constantly talking shit about him during meetings.

Then Woodhead makes the team - gets no touches in the first game - and then is cut the day after the Ravens loss. He didn't even do anything on the field to warrant getting cut.

When the Jets brought back Clowney, it was for "depth" at WR, which made no fucking sense because they wanted Woodhead to be a WR.

Jets fans are PISSED about that, because they totally saw Woodhead being Chrebet 2.0.

[Snacks]

The Jets O-Line is no slouch either. But for the record, the Jets didn't cut Woodhead for McKnight, Woodhead was cut for David Clowney, who was then cut two or three weeks later.

That said, the Jets cutting Woodhead I feel is the biggest boneheaded move they did all season.

but he was cut because they had to activate Clowney and it has been reported that they had to choose between mcknight and woodhead. so yes he was cut in order to keep mcknight who they should have cut instead.

[Tenbatsuzen]

but he was cut because they had to activate Clowney and it has been reported that they had to choose between mcknight and woodhead. so yes he was cut in order to keep mcknight who they should have cut instead.

Activate clowney? He wasn't injured. He was cut on September 5th. Woodhead was cut on 9/14 and Clowney was brought back.

[Snacks]

Activate clowney? He wasn't injured. He was cut on September 5th. Woodhead was cut on 9/14 and Clowney was brought back.

activate, bring back on the team, same shit. they needed a wr for some reason and the choice to cut was between the 2 rbs they chose wrong.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Snacks:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/09/14/jets-sign-wr-clowney-cut-rb-woodhead

[Tenbatsuzen]

activate, bring back on the team, same shit. they needed a wr for some reason and the choice to cut was between the 2 rbs they chose wrong.

Woodhead was listed on the Jets depth chart as a WR, not RB, AFAIK. They were making him a slash back who could run or catch the ball.

And the whole point is that they didn't need to make that transaction. They could have kept McKnight and Woodhead. They didn't even THROW at Clowney when he came back to the team.

[Snacks]

Woodhead was listed on the Jets depth chart as a WR, not RB, AFAIK. They were making him a slash back who could run or catch the ball.

And the whole point is that they didn't need to make that transaction. They could have kept McKnight and Woodhead. They didn't even THROW at Clowney when he came back to the team.

so it was 2 bad choices rolled into 1.

[underdog]

so it was 2 bad choices rolled into 1.

J-E-T-S!

[underdog]

Marvin Lewis is back, for some reason (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40913853/ns/sports-player_news/)

Why would they want to keep him and why would he want to stay?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Marvin Lewis is back, for some reason (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40913853/ns/sports-player_news/)

Why would they want to keep him and why would he want to stay?

I first read that as "black".

That said, there's no guarantee of no lockout, and I believe the coaches get paid if there is a lockout. That said, he gets a check for doing nothing if there is a lockout.

Then again, he didn't do anything last year, so...

[TheGameHHH]

The line wasn't as strong and he never got consistent playing time (and when he did, he'd fuck up once and not play for the next month). He also liked to "juke" and run sideways, which doesn't particularly work with the line. You need to run straight forward.

I think there must be some attitude and training issues with him, as well. He got traded to Denver then barely played at all.

he'd never get consistent playing time because like you said after he spent an entire game trying to juke instead of hit a hole he'd somehow hurt himself. he was made of glass and sucked a bag of dicks on top of that.

[spoon]

Snacks is right, that story only states the transaction in general. Both Rex and Woody have been on the radio in the past saying they had to choose pretty much bt Woodhead and McKnight. They pretty much chose McKnight because of the investment in terms of a him being a 4th round pick out of USC by this Jet front office in 2010, Woodhead being over 3 years older, undrafted and tested the prior year...not to mention a huge difference in speed. That is right out from your team itself.

Saying he was dropped for Clowney and had nothing to do with McKnight staying simply isn't true. That's like saying WR Jackson replaced the K Kris Brown when released. Sure Clowney took his spot, but over McKnights bc it was down to those two and the reasons above were given as to what direction they went.

Oh and I believe activate is perfectly appropriate Snacks, as I believe he was ACTIVATED/brought up from the Jet's practice squad.

Finally, you're right in that they could have kept both, no shit. But they made the call bt those two in the end, one or the other along with Clowney.

[spoon]

I first read that as "black".

That said, there's no guarantee of no lockout, and I believe the coaches get paid if there is a lockout. That said, he gets a check for doing nothing if there is a lockout.

Then again, he didn't do anything last year, so...

:wallbash: He had no fucking contract for next year until now.

“There’s a lot of things that go into that. In the direction of things that we’re doing and how we’re doing things that are important to me,” Lewis said, per Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. "There were things when I started in this job in 2003 that were important and we can’t change those. They have to stay on track and I have to make sure we’re continuing to progress that way. Those are the things that are more important to me as anything."

“I’m talking about structure, decision and how we do things and how I have the ability to do things that give us an opportunity to win football games.”

Lewis wouldn’t name any of those “things” in particular, but the “things” presumably involve making sure Lewis will have the autonomy to make the decisions he wants on matters related to personnel and his coaching staff. Whatever the “things” are, Lewis says he’s not stressing the final year of his contract.

“I can’t worry, I’m not going to,” Lewis said. “The most important thing is what we do on the field in 2010. That’s the most important thing for those 53 guys we end up with and those coaches I have. Not whether I have a contract or not.”

HA! I guess he thinks they're on the right path since 2003. I guess the only "thing" he was successful with in the end WAS the contract. What a fucking joke.

[Snacks]

Snacks is right, that story only states the transaction in general. Both Rex and Woody have been on the radio in the past saying they had to choose pretty much bt Woodhead and McKnight. They pretty much chose McKnight because of the investment in terms of a him being a 4th round pick out of USC by this Jet front office in 2010, Woodhead being over 3 years older, undrafted and tested the prior year...not to mention a huge difference in speed. That is right out from your team itself.

Saying he was dropped for Clowney and had nothing to do with McKnight staying simply isn't true. That's like saying WR Jackson replaced the K Kris Brown when released. Sure Clowney took his spot, but over McKnights bc it was down to those two and the reasons above were given as to what direction they went.

Oh and I believe activate is perfectly appropriate Snacks, as I believe he was ACTIVATED/brought up from the Jet's practice squad.

Finally, you're right in that they could have kept both, no shit. But they made the call bt those two in the end, one or the other along with Clowney.

exactly and that is the reason i said they made 2 bad choice rolled into 1 situation. the 1st bad choice was signing clowney the 2nd bad decision was cutting woodhead over mcknight in order to activate the 1st bad decision!

[KnoxHarrington]

:wallbash: He had no fucking contract for next year until now.



HA! I guess he thinks they're on the right path since 2003. I guess the only "thing" he was successful with in the end WAS the contract. What a fucking joke.

There are a shitload of problems with the Bengals, and Lewis is only one of those. That team needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt.

It occurs to me that if I win Mega Millions tonight, I might have enough money to buy the Bengals. If I do, you guys get a 10% discount at any concession stand at Paul Brown Stadium. On me.

But stay the hell out of the owner's box.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Oh and I believe activate is perfectly appropriate Snacks, as I believe he was ACTIVATED/brought up from the Jet's practice squad.


No. Clowney was straight up cut, not on the practice squad.

[Tenbatsuzen]

:wallbash: He had no fucking contract for next year until now.




The question was asked why would Marvin want to come back. That was my answer.

[spoon]

Marvin Lewis is back, for some reason (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40913853/ns/sports-player_news/)

Why would they want to keep him and why would he want to stay?

No, it wasn't so clear cut a question.

The move is completely retarded on Cincy's part and your point is hilarious. It's obvious what part we were both responding to, bc he sucks and of course he'd stay in a place that pays him to fucking suck every year with no pressure. Come on man.

As for Clowney, they were in the process of putting him on the practice squad as he was just clearing waivers from what I read when they decided just to add him back. GB was possibly interested in adding him back but nothing came of it and I'm sure it helped force the Jet's hand.

[spoon]

The question was asked why would Marvin want to come back. That was my answer.

:wallbash: again

[epo]

Green Bay was not interested in bringing back David Clowney. Ever.

[spoon]

Green Bay was not interested in bringing back David Clowney. Ever.

The rumor was practice squad. But rumor no doubt. Come on, you don't want Clowney!? Are you nuts!?

[Justice4all]

that's why ur an idiot

y not just eat the afterbirth of your Giant team


Why so I can regurgitate it and make it look like the Chargers?

Sorry Pal...we both backed losers this year. You got NOTHING.


On another note....

Raiders part way with Cable (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/04/raiders.tom.cable.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I have to admit I am a bit shocked. They did more this year then expected. Swept their division and were playoff contenders right up until the middle of December.

And they fire the coach?
Someone help me with this one.

[KnoxHarrington]

Why so I can regurgitate it and make it look like the Chargers?

Sorry Pal...we both backed losers this year. You got NOTHING.


On another note....

Raiders part way with Cable (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/04/raiders.tom.cable.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I have to admit I am a bit shocked. They did more this year then expected. Swept their division and were playoff contenders right up until the middle of December.

And they fire the coach?
Someone help me with this one.

There is only one explanation for anything the Raiders do:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2008/09/340x_aldavis01.jpg

[epo]

The rumor was practice squad. But rumor no doubt. Come on, you don't want Clowney!? Are you nuts!?

Clowney is just horrible and WR hasn't been a need for them in years. Their 5 deep is actually one of the best in the league.

[spoon]

Why so I can regurgitate it and make it look like the Chargers?

Sorry Pal...we both backed losers this year. You got NOTHING.


On another note....

Raiders part way with Cable (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/04/raiders.tom.cable.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

I have to admit I am a bit shocked. They did more this year then expected. Swept their division and were playoff contenders right up until the middle of December.

And they fire the coach?
Someone help me with this one.

He does have attitude issues and wasn't a fav out there regardless of this one time .500 record. Fracturing your assistant coach's jaw and abusing past wives and girlfriends really don't help his case. I'm not really sure if he was liked or not by his team though. Sailor? I hope they trade with SD for Turner.

[epo]

There is only one explanation for anything the Raiders do:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2008/09/340x_aldavis01.jpg

Never question the genius of Al Davis!

Ever!

[weekapaugjz]

There is only one explanation for anything the Raiders do:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2008/09/340x_aldavis01.jpg

i hope al davis sees this post and tears you a new asshole.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Never question the genius of Al Davis!

Ever!

Hysterical. The guy fucking assaults another employee but no, AL DAVIS IS FUCKING CRAZY.

Yeah.

[spoon]

Hysterical. The guy fucking assaults another employee but no, AL DAVIS IS FUCKING CRAZY.

Yeah.

I would say they had there chance to fire him with cause when it happened though. I'm pretty sure both are fucking assholes and crazy.

[sailor]

He does have attitude issues and wasn't a fav out there regardless of this one time .500 record. Fracturing your assistant coach's jaw and abusing past wives and girlfriends really don't help his case. I'm not really sure if he was liked or not by his team though. Sailor? I hope they trade with SD for Turner.

did they players like him? no clue. as a fan, i liked where he had the team going, after getting rid of jamarcus. just seems like we will never have consistency. it's like the yankees in the 80s, new coach every year or so.

i don't see his personal shit as affecting anything. the abuse was in the 80s or so and the fight was before the 2009 season, no reason to let him go based on that now. also, he wasn't fired, his contract was up and they didn't pick up the option.

[Justice4all]

Titans say goodbye to Vince Young but admit the coaching staff is on the hot seat. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/05/titans-young.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

Wow. After all the speculation of how the owner LOVED Young and had it in for Fisher, he actually makes a smart choice and sticks with the coach...for now.

[TripleSkeet]

Hysterical. The guy fucking assaults another employee but no, AL DAVIS IS FUCKING CRAZY.

Yeah.

If he fired him now for something that happened almost 2 years ago Id say Al Davis is even crazier then I thought.

[spoon]

If he fired him now for something that happened almost 2 years ago Id say Al Davis is even crazier then I thought.

Perhaps his lawyers said they'd have to pay him regardless and Al is getting cheap?

[TripleSkeet]

Perhaps his lawyers said they'd have to pay him regardless and Al is getting cheap?

Maybe. Maybe he forgot he hates Gruden and is thinking of hiring him back.

[sailor]

Maybe. Maybe he forgot he hates Gruden and is thinking of hiring him back.

i fucking wish.

[KnoxHarrington]

Titans say goodbye to Vince Young but admit the coaching staff is on the hot seat. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/05/titans-young.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

Wow. After all the speculation of how the owner LOVED Young and had it in for Fisher, he actually makes a smart choice and sticks with the coach...for now.

Might not be a bad idea to move both of them.

I do wonder where Vince Young ends up. He's definitely not done: some team will take a chance and pick him up. But I think the way he's acted since joining the league have shown that he is dumb as hell, and a baby besides.

[Barnaby Jones]

In Al we trust!!!!

http://www.raidersgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/davis.jpg

[Earlshog]

Andrew Luck staying at Stanford


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5995754

[cougarjake13]

Titans say goodbye to Vince Young but admit the coaching staff is on the hot seat. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/05/titans-young.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

Wow. After all the speculation of how the owner LOVED Young and had it in for Fisher, he actually makes a smart choice and sticks with the coach...for now.

i think he stays


cant imagine he'd get rid of both

[spoon]

i fucking wish.

ME TOO! First to get him out of the booth and being a Charger fan I'd love it!

[Tenbatsuzen]

So Snacks, does Miami's "tradition of winning" include jerking the coach around and the front office looking like complete assholes?

[KnoxHarrington]

i think he stays


cant imagine he'd get rid of both

Yeah, it's probably a sign of which one of the two Adams trusts: he chose Fisher over Young. It was pretty obvious both of them would not return; one or the other had to go.

[Snacks]

So Snacks, does Miami's "tradition of winning" include jerking the coach around and the front office looking like complete assholes?

new owner who is doing the right thing. should he fire him first, yes but how many coaches in college interview for other jobs and just let their schools or players know after they get new jobs? The only difference is miami is going after the coach who seems to be the next big thing. If they dont get the guy they want they feel at least they will have Sparano. Thats a bad move because you cant expect him to stay after all this.

I hope they fire Sparano soon and hope they hire Gruden, Harbaugh or Cowher but what they are offering is too much. But I guess Im happy they arent afraid to spend but it might be a little too much!

Still classier then the Jets actually this isnt worse then even 1 thing your shit team has done this year. Theres a laundry list of negativity by the Jets

[spoon]

new owner who is doing the right thing. should he fire him first, yes but how many coaches in college interview for other jobs and just let their schools or players know after they get new jobs? The only difference is miami is going after the coach who seems to be the next big thing. If they dont get the guy they want they feel at least they will have Sparano. Thats a bad move because you cant expect him to stay after all this.

I hope they fire Sparano soon and hope they hire Gruden, Harbaugh or Cowher but what they are offering is too much. But I guess Im happy they arent afraid to spend but it might be a little too much!

Still classier then the Jets actually this isnt worse then even 1 thing your shit team has done this year. Theres a laundry list of negativity by the Jets

Jesus, I WISH SD would make me happy and do this to Turner. Both he and Sparano have earned being on the fence at least, enjoy the fact you're even being considered a fallback.

[Snacks]

Jesus, I WISH SD would make me happy and do this to Turner. Both he and Sparano have earned being on the fence at least, enjoy the fact you're even being considered a fallback.

I just read 5 min ago on CBS Sports that talks between Harbaugh and Miami are off and Miami has decided to keep Sparano. WTF? Even if you dont sign Harbaugh how can you now after all this decide to keep Sparano? Im starting to get very pissed, even more pissed then you about Norv!

[spoon]

I just read 5 min ago on CBS Sports that talks between Harbaugh and Miami are off and Miami has decided to keep Sparano. WTF? Even if you dont sign Harbaugh how can you now after all this decide to keep Sparano? Im starting to get very pissed, even more pissed then you about Norv!

Impossible

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just read 5 min ago on CBS Sports that talks between Harbaugh and Miami are off and Miami has decided to keep Sparano. WTF? Even if you dont sign Harbaugh how can you now after all this decide to keep Sparano? Im starting to get very pissed, even more pissed then you about Norv!

That's what I was talking about, Snacks. Creating a hostile work environment with Sparano > Cutting Woodhead

[Earlshog]

Niners win Harbaugh derby


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/07/nfl-harbaugh-niners.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

[spoon]

That's what I was talking about, Snacks. Creating a hostile work environment with Sparano > Cutting Woodhead

That is of course true, and all kidding aside Miami treated Sparano like shit here. I'd still sign on for it if it meant getting rid of Norv though. As much as he's been known to be a good guy, he needs to go.

The only thing I could imagine here is if they talked to Sparano about this, perhaps he was going to fallback into an old position or inside the org if they like him in those capacities. Who knows? Perhaps he didn't mind being the fallback? Perhaps it's worth it to him to be one of only 32 coaches in the league.

[spoon]

Niners win Harbaugh derby


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/07/nfl-harbaugh-niners.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

Going into that situation really couldn't be better. I think they're qb (Smith) can be at least average under the right coaching staff, the division is pure garbage and they haven't done shit in YEARS. Also, he's replacing a guy who with his OC couldn't put points on the board since being there. Jim made a good choice here. Hell, he doesn't even have to move that far.

[cougarjake13]

That is of course true, and all kidding aside Miami treated Sparano like shit here. I'd still sign on for it if it meant getting rid of Norv though. As much as he's been known to be a good guy, he needs to go.

The only thing I could imagine here is if they talked to Sparano about this, perhaps he was going to fallback into an old position or inside the org if they like him in those capacities. Who knows? Perhaps he didn't mind being the fallback? Perhaps it's worth it to him to be one of only 32 coaches in the league.

well if he can somehow get thru next season if there is one and not say shit and possibly even be successful that'll make him look good to other teams at least

[Tenbatsuzen]

Going into that situation really couldn't be better. I think they're qb (Smith) can be at least average under the right coaching staff, the division is pure garbage and they haven't done shit in YEARS. Also, he's replacing a guy who with his OC couldn't put points on the board since being there. Jim made a good choice here. Hell, he doesn't even have to move that far.

Apparently he doesn't have to move at all.

I seriously wonder who works harder - an NFL HC or a College coach vying for a national title?

I just feel bad for Stanford, who got their program all built up just to be left in a lurch.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The only thing I could imagine here is if they talked to Sparano about this, perhaps he was going to fallback into an old position or inside the org if they like him in those capacities. Who knows? Perhaps he didn't mind being the fallback? Perhaps it's worth it to him to be one of only 32 coaches in the league.

I don't know what the fuck they are doing, because PFT now says the Dolphins cancelled a presser that was to confirm Sporano was staying, and they are talking to... ERIC FUCKING MANGINI.

Oh God, where's the popcorn?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/07/dolphins-cancel-press-conferece-spoke-with-mangini/

[underdog]

I seriously wonder who works harder - an NFL HC or a College coach vying for a national title?

NFL HC. I don't even think it's close.

Look at Steve Spurrier. He's this huge golf guy. No NFL HC has time to golf.

[cougarjake13]

NFL HC. I don't even think it's close.

Look at Steve Spurrier. He's this huge golf guy. No NFL HC has time to golf.

plus college coaches have restrictions on how the players practice and such

sure he could be up all night watching game tape or whatever but nfl coaches have more

[Tenbatsuzen]

NFL HC. I don't even think it's close.

Look at Steve Spurrier. He's this huge golf guy. No NFL HC has time to golf.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/01/04/gal_jets-coaches-6.jpg

but seriously folks:

College HCs have to deal with recruiting trips, all of the academia of college, making sure the kids are not only keeping their noses clean but also keeping their grades up, plus having to deal with the rules of the NCAA, etc. etc.

NFL HC's, depending on the team, can get as many assistants as they need to deal with the minutae of the job.

[Snacks]

Going into that situation really couldn't be better. I think they're qb (Smith) can be at least average under the right coaching staff, the division is pure garbage and they haven't done shit in YEARS. Also, he's replacing a guy who with his OC couldn't put points on the board since being there. Jim made a good choice here. Hell, he doesn't even have to move that far.

I agree. I think it is easier to make the playoffs and be successful enough to keep your job longer then going east. I also think SFs biggest problem was Alex Smith it was Singletary. He was a terrible coach and with the right coach that team can win 9 or 10 games next year especially playing STL, SEA and ARZ 6 times!

[Snacks]

I don't know what the fuck they are doing, because PFT now says the Dolphins cancelled a presser that was to confirm Sporano was staying, and they are talking to... ERIC FUCKING MANGINI.

Oh God, where's the popcorn?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/07/dolphins-cancel-press-conferece-spoke-with-mangini/

wait, what? Why does Mangini get fired and get hired as soon as the paint drys? He was a basically a fucking janitor for NE. I hope this doesnt happen, he should take a college job and be gone. Im glad to hear Miami cancelled their press conference because Sparano needs to go and they cant have him back for a few reasons. 1) the job he did was pathetic, 2) hes lost the team and 3) after what Ross did this week he will lose respect and credibility from the fans and the entire org!

Bad job by the dolphins here. They could have handled this so much better. Fire him and move on quickly!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I agree. I think it is easier to make the playoffs and be successful enough to keep your job longer then going east. I also think SFs biggest problem was Alex Smith it was Singletary. He was a terrible coach and with the right coach that team can win 9 or 10 games next year especially playing STL, SEA and ARZ 6 times!

If Arizona gets a decent QB they immediately become the class of the division.

[Dudeman]

I just feel bad for Stanford, who got their program all built up just to be left in a lurch.

You should never feel sorry for those pansy ass alumni and students. Look at this article from the NYTimes about their bs grade inflation.

As things now stand, Stanford's students, many competing for scarce slots in prestigious law or medical schools, can withdraw from classes on the eve of final examinations with no notation on their transcripts. After the students withdraw, they are free to take the courses again and again, until they get grades they like. This practice generates blemish-free transcripts. (http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/04/us/stanford-u-decides-to-make-courses-harder-to-drop-but-easier-to-fail.html?pagewanted=2) :dry:

[Tenbatsuzen]

You should never feel sorry for those pansy ass alumni and students. Look at this article from the NYTimes about their bs grade inflation.

As things now stand, Stanford's students, many competing for scarce slots in prestigious law or medical schools, can withdraw from classes on the eve of final examinations with no notation on their transcripts. After the students withdraw, they are free to take the courses again and again, until they get grades they like. This practice generates blemish-free transcripts. (http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/04/us/stanford-u-decides-to-make-courses-harder-to-drop-but-easier-to-fail.html?pagewanted=2) :dry:

If you're paying to go there, shouldn't you get control of what future employers see?

Just saying. It's not like a participation trophy practice. If you sucked, you take it again and re-learn it until you get it right. You still give Stanford the money for credit hours. I don't see a problem with it.

[Dudeman]

If you're paying to go there, shouldn't you get control of what future employers see?

Just saying. It's not like a participation trophy practice. If you sucked, you take it again and re-learn it until you get it right. You still give Stanford the money for credit hours. I don't see a problem with it.

As the article states, grades are used to determine admissions to med school, law school, and graduate school. (Having attending doctorate program with a number of their students, I began to wonder how many of them used this class dropping system to inflate their grades...)

[Tenbatsuzen]

As the article states, grades are used to determine admissions to med school, law school, and graduate school. (Having attending doctorate program with a number of their students, I began to wonder how many of them used this class dropping system to inflate their grades...)

Is it really inflating your grades if you're taking the same course over again to re-learn the work? I mean, they aren't blowing the teacher or something, they are actually re-doing it.

Once you get into Med School or Law School, then you really have to focus, I still don't see the problem.

Maybe that's just me, speaking as someone who had a learning disability and had a hard time my first two years in college.

[Snacks]

Some SF writer just said on ESPN that Harbaugh wasnt going to sign with an AFC team because he didnt want to compete with his brother every year. They would rather meet in the SB. I guess he pulled a Manning family situation!

I wish him well and think he will do so in SF!

[Dudeman]

Is it really inflating your grades if you're taking the same course over again to re-learn the work? I mean, they aren't blowing the teacher or something, they are actually re-doing it.

Once you get into Med School or Law School, then you really have to focus, I still don't see the problem.

Maybe that's just me, speaking as someone who had a learning disability and had a hard time my first two years in college.

Your points aren't necessarily wrong, but there are additional factors. First, in some parts of life, there aren't do-overs; certainly not do-overs without mention or consequence of the prior failure. You can't redo your screw-up as a surgeon during an operation. Secondly, once again as said in the article, the grades also serve to determine who gets into med, grad, and law school. The admissions committees need to see who failed organic chemistry and then had to retake it or retook it to improve (ie. inflate) their GPA versus those who got a good grade the first time.

I don't see something wrong with retaking a class, but for a person trying to get into med school, it needs to be reflected.

[cougarjake13]

Is it really inflating your grades if you're taking the same course over again to re-learn the work? I mean, they aren't blowing the teacher or something, they are actually re-doing it.

Once you get into Med School or Law School, then you really have to focus, I still don't see the problem.

Maybe that's just me, speaking as someone who had a learning disability and had a hard time my first two years in college.

its a lil diff but that would be the same as a qb playing all year and come the last game looks at his stats and says these arent good enough and gets to erase the whole season and start over again next season to better his draft position

[cougarjake13]

Some SF writer just said on ESPN that Harbaugh wasnt going to sign with an AFC team because he didnt want to compete with his brother every year. They would rather meet in the SB. I guess he pulled a Manning family situation!

I wish him well and think he will do so in SF!




it also makes sense because not only is the division he's going to better for his coaching life but the conference as a whole



for at least the next 5 years in the afc you would have to go through the brady patriots, the peyton colts, the big ben steelers, the rivers chargers, as well as his brothers ravens

[spoon]

If Arizona gets a decent QB they immediately become the class of the division.

No so much. Their D is fucking awful now with all the guys they lost, heck it wasn't that good when they had Warner bc he masked it. Rolle and others left last year, but we'll see what moves they make moving forward. They are also down Boldin at WR, Well and Hightower do not look good and their line play isn't what it used to be on either side of the ball. I don't see this right now.

To me, the biggest move the division could have just happened, a decent coach in SF. I'm not convinced on Harbaugh just yet bc it was really one year in Stanford that got him here. However, his QB/offensive knowledge and calm demeanor will be a huge add to SF. I honestly think you'll see Smith have a good year here and the team be the biggest mover in the division.

Still, we'll see which is true if the Cards line up Vince Young, McNabb or something even better. I wouldn't put it past their coach to go after an aging qb either due to the success they had with Warner.

[spoon]

If you're paying to go there, shouldn't you get control of what future employers see?

Just saying. It's not like a participation trophy practice. If you sucked, you take it again and re-learn it until you get it right. You still give Stanford the money for credit hours. I don't see a problem with it.

I see a HUGE problem with it. Are you mad Matt?

[spoon]

it also makes sense because not only is the division he's going to better for his coaching life but the conference as a whole



for at least the next 5 years in the afc you would have to go through the brady patriots, the peyton colts, the big ben steelers, the rivers chargers, as well as his brothers ravens

NOT THIS YEAR! NORV!!!!! :wallbash:

[spoon]

Fuck me!

Can SD get the 2nd rounder AND the Jets get shelled tomorrow? (http://www.nctimes.com/sports/football/professional/nfl/chargers/article_2a5a5ad7-c22b-54d7-af39-62d049474e9c.html)

Seriously, they never really explained the other route fully. I assume it just hinges on Cromartie signing long-term, but how long?

I'd HATE having to root for these assholes. In fact, I still don't think I can. :wallbash:

[Justice4all]

Some SF writer just said on ESPN that Harbaugh wasnt going to sign with an AFC team because he didnt want to compete with his brother every year. They would rather meet in the SB. I guess he pulled a Manning family situation!

I wish him well and think he will do so in SF!


With the way the scheduling is done with the NFL, and how the teams do....he could play his brother more then just once every 4 year in the reg. season and/or the Super Bowl.

It would be interesting to see. (provided the elder brother still has a job by then)

[TripleSkeet]

If Arizona gets a decent QB they immediately become the class of the division.

I remember hearing the same thing before this season with Washington.

[spoon]

I remember hearing the same thing before this season with Washington.

That's completely a different division and NEVER down like the West was/is come on. Then again, I know what you're referring too. I just think Shanny and the weapons in Washington had more to do with it than McNabb. I highly doubt he fell this far in one year, but I guess we'll see.

[TripleSkeet]

That's completely a different division and NEVER down like the West was/is come on. Then again, I know what you're referring too. I just think Shanny and the weapons in Washington had more to do with it than McNabb. I highly doubt he fell this far in one year, but I guess we'll see.

Honestly, neither do I. I just dont think hes going to walk into Arizona and all of a sudden they are going to go 11-5.

[Ritalin]

Seattle's hanging around. Actually played a little defense right there.

[Justice4all]

Sporano get's 2 year extension with Miami (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/08/dolphins.tony.sparano.extension.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)


Wow Snacks must be going APESHIT with this news.

[Snacks]

Sporano get's 2 year extension with Miami (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/08/dolphins.tony.sparano.extension.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)


Wow Snacks must be going APESHIT with this news.

Blow me! All I care about right now is my picks!

Go Sea!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Honestly, neither do I. I just dont think hes going to walk into Arizona and all of a sudden they are going to go 11-5.

You don't need to go 11-5 in the NFC West to become, as I said, "the class of the division". As Seattle shows right now, 7-9 makes it.

[cougarjake13]

With the way the scheduling is done with the NFL, and how the teams do....he could play his brother more then just once every 4 year in the reg. season and/or the Super Bowl.

It would be interesting to see. (provided the elder brother still has a job by then)

if they were both in the afc then yes


in the nfc its only every four years or super bowl

[cougarjake13]

I remember hearing the same thing before this season with Washington.

i dont remember hearing that



i remember everyone crowning the cowboys

giants just hoping to stay afloat around .500

skins to be improved and have a possible wild card shot with shanny and mcnabb


and the eagles being in a somewhat rebuilding or retooling with kevin kolb

[cougarjake13]

Honestly, neither do I. I just dont think hes going to walk into Arizona and all of a sudden they are going to go 11-5.



in that shitty division though he could go 9-7 and prob win the division

[cougarjake13]

Sporano get's 2 year extension with Miami (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/08/dolphins.tony.sparano.extension.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)


Wow Snacks must be going APESHIT with this news.

i guess they had to give him some kind of extension to avoid lame duck coach but damn

[Justice4all]

Blow me! All I care about right now is my picks!

Go Sea!!!


The only thing that's gonna blow is Miami next year.

[cougarjake13]

The only thing that's gonna blow is Miami next year.



well prob buffalo also

[sailor]

Once you get into Med School or Law School, then you really have to focus, I still don't see the problem.

Some would say, once you got into Stanford you should really have to focus.

[HBox]

Nnamdi Asomugha is a free agent and the Raiders can't franchise him. Here's your #1 free agent. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6004943)

[Snoogans]

i still dont understand how the fuck this was his deal. If he DOESNT meet incentives, the contract is auto voided and they cant franchise him. Why would you give a player and incentive that benefits him and is reached by not performing? WHY THE FUCK DIDNT EDDY CURRY GET A DEAL LIKE THIS?

[underdog]

Nnamdi Asomugha is a free agent and the Raiders can't franchise him. Here's your #1 free agent. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6004943)

This is a BIG time free agent. You eliminate the team from throwing on half the field with this guy out there.

My favorite part of the article :

He also could have achieved his incentives by improving upon on his interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season -- but he didn't have any interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season.

No one will even put a ball near this man.

I think it would be amazing if the Broncos signed him and had him playing on the other side of Champ Bailey.

[Snoogans]

all i know is Jerry Reese better be on the phone TONIGHT

[HBox]

Asomugha and Samuel? That would force QBs into throwing at Samuel constantly. Oh man that would be so awesome.

Andy Reid, do that shit! Before 4pm if at all possible!

[epo]

i still dont understand how the fuck this was his deal. If he DOESNT meet incentives, the contract is auto voided and they cant franchise him. Why would you give a player and incentive that benefits him and is reached by not performing? WHY THE FUCK DIDNT EDDY CURRY GET A DEAL LIKE THIS?


Don't ever doubt the genius of Al Davis.

Ever!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Revis and Ashomuga?

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1377/jizzinmypants3127169.jpg

[Snoogans]

will you ladies move along please, the Giants are busy signing a CB

[HBox]

will you ladies move along please, the Giants are busy signing a CB

Eli manning refuses to have anyone on his team whose name he can't spell. He had a team meeting about this very subject.

[epo]

Fortunately, Charles Woodson gave Nnamdi Asomugha the blueprint for this situation:

Leave Oakland, sign with Green Bay and become a Hall of Famer.

[Barnaby Jones]

What type of bullshit contract is this?!???

[sailor]

I think it would be amazing if the Broncos signed him and had him playing on the other side of Champ Bailey.

i hope you get cervical cancer.

[Snoogans]

Corey Webster is gonna be busy next season. I hope he is ready for it

[underdog]

Asomugha and Samuel? That would force QBs into throwing at Samuel constantly. Oh man that would be so awesome.

Andy Reid, do that shit! Before 4pm if at all possible!

And Samuel would end up going to the pro bowl because INTs mean he's good!

People in New England were up in arms when the Patriots didn't resign him. He gets so many picks because they constantly throw at him!

[underdog]

i hope you get cervical cancer.

I don't like the Broncos, but I wonder what a team would look like with two shut down CBs.

[Snoogans]

I don't like the Broncos, but I wonder what a team would look like with two shut down CBs.

it would look like a team that would constanly lose games 6-3 cause tebow is a fag

[HBox]

And Samuel would end up going to the pro bowl because INTs mean he's good!

People in New England were up in arms when the Patriots didn't resign him. He gets so many picks because they constantly throw at him!

Not this year. The rest of the secondary is so horrid he sees like 2 balls a game.

[underdog]

it would look like a team that would constanly lose games 6-3 cause tebow is a fag

John Elway already came out and says Tebow sucks. He's probably going to end up being traded.

[sailor]

John Elway already came out and says Tebow sucks. He's probably going to end up being traded.

Way to drive up his value, horse-face.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Way to drive up his value, horse-face.

Duh, he made a deal with the Devil to get the rings.

[spoon]

This is a BIG time free agent. You eliminate the team from throwing on half the field with this guy out there.

My favorite part of the article :



No one will even put a ball near this man.

I think it would be amazing if the Broncos signed him and had him playing on the other side of Champ Bailey.

FUCK YOU he is not going to Denver!

My fav part is what you're saying, all the incentives were based on things that just don't happen much bc teams simply keep the ball away from him and other top dbs. Just look at Revis last night. I would have gone at him more than that bc the guy he was guarding is pretty fucking good too, but that's why teams lose right.

Here's where his incentives should have come from, Asomugha is one of the league's best man-to-man cornerbacks, with most teams choosing not to throw to his side of the field. According to STATS LLC, Asomugha was targeted on just 33 pass attempts this season. He allowed 13 completions for 205 yards and no touchdowns, burnishing his reputation as a shutdown cornerback.

[spoon]

Oakland could have many other key free agents this offseason depending on the terms of the new collective bargaining agreement. Pro Bowl defensive tackle Richard Seymour, safety Michael Huff, cornerback Stanford Routt, tight end Zach Miller, left guard Robert Gallery and running back Michael Bush are among the Raiders' other potential free agents.

Perhaps they did Cable a favor?

[Justice4all]

well prob buffalo also

I have better hope for Buffalo.

[spoon]

GO ANY TEAM NEAR ME!

That's all I see.

[underdog]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Translation on Chargers DC Ron Rivera: If the two sides can work out a contract, he will be the Panthers next head coach.

spoon must be ecstatic.

[spoon]

Well I knew it was going to happen anyway. The wrong guy is leaving.

[Justice4all]

That's all I see.

Hey Fuck you professor.
I will never root for the Islander or Rangers. (or anything from Philly since that is where I live now...genius)
And basketball? Could give two shits about it.
Now go root for your other teams that will never make the playoffs in their sports.

[Justice4all]

spoon must be ecstatic.

he'll really be thrilled IF L.T. wins the SB with the Jets than the Bolts.

[spoon]

he'll really be thrilled IF L.T. wins the SB with the Jets than the Bolts.

I'm not even close to concerned the Jets will go any further, much less to the SB!? HA! :lol:

[TripleSkeet]

it would look like a team that would constanly lose games 6-3 cause tebow is a fag

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[underdog]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
If Chargers HC Norv Turner can convince Dave Wannstedt to succeed Ron Rivera, the former Cowboys coordinators would be reunited in SD.
22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Ron Rivera to Carolina created opportunities for Dave Wannstedt, who is expected to talk with Chargers, Panthers, Browns and Bills.


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[cougarjake13]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
If Chargers HC Norv Turner can convince Dave Wannstedt to succeed Ron Rivera, the former Cowboys coordinators would be reunited in SD.
22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Ron Rivera to Carolina created opportunities for Dave Wannstedt, who is expected to talk with Chargers, Panthers, Browns and Bills.


ahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah aahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhah ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahah ahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahah ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahh ahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahah



wow


i dont know what wuld be worse for spoon


keeping turner or bringing in wannstadt


worst prob is havin both

[underdog]

wow


i dont know what wuld be worse for spoon


keeping turner or bringing in wannstadt


worst prob is havin both

You know what the best part will be, when they fire Turner, Dave Wannstadt will become the interim coach!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah a
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[cougarjake13]

You know what the best part will be, when they fire Turner, Dave Wannstadt will become the interim coach!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah a
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



hahhahha


then he'll go 5-1 and make playoffs and before first plaoff game they give him the full gig with an extension


then get blowed out

[razorboy]

Well it does seem that the Chargers just hired Rich Bisaccia. He's a better than decent ST coach.




So there's always that.

[TripleSkeet]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
If Chargers HC Norv Turner can convince Dave Wannstedt to succeed Ron Rivera, the former Cowboys coordinators would be reunited in SD.
22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Ron Rivera to Carolina created opportunities for Dave Wannstedt, who is expected to talk with Chargers, Panthers, Browns and Bills.


ahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah aahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhah ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahah ahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahah ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahh ahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahah

How the fuck do these guys keep getting work???

[spoon]

Good news on ANYONE other than Crosby as the ST coach, but the fact he said this scares me.

“This is a tremendous opportunity for me to be part of a winning organization and work with Norv Turner. There’s a real opportunity here to win it all,” Bisaccia said. “I’ve worked with Jon Gruden and now I have the opportunity to work with Norv. These are two of the best coaching minds in football. I’m really looking forward to it.”

WHAT?! I guess he has to say something positive, but how about not linking yourself solely to the guy hopefully gone soon. Also, it isn't a very good sign he's been a ST coach for a decade and his first move is to do the same thing. Perhaps he's a lifer there, but I doubt he wants that and overall doesn't seem like a great sign.

[spoon]

How the fuck do these guys keep getting work???

Wow that would REALLY suck. I hope he goes to Carolina and helps their D stay the same. Fuck him coming to SD.

[Justice4all]

How the fuck do these guys keep getting work???

And on THAT note...John Fox is the new HC for the Denver Broncos. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/13/john-fox-broncos.ap/index.html)

Let's see how this one works out.
After all those years it will be strange to see him with another team.

[underdog]

I found out today that the Patriots own the Panthers' 2nd round pick. Which means the Patriots own their own 1st rounder, the 17th pick and the 33rd pick. Fucking amazing.

[CountryBob]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
If Chargers HC Norv Turner can convince Dave Wannstedt to succeed Ron Rivera, the former Cowboys coordinators would be reunited in SD.
22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Ron Rivera to Carolina created opportunities for Dave Wannstedt, who is expected to talk with Chargers, Panthers, Browns and Bills.


ahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah aahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhah ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahah ahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahah ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahh ahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahah

Bring back Marty Schottenheimer!

[hanso]

Brad Childress maybe Miami Dolphins OC. With a nic like "Chilly" the guy should coach in a cold climate.

[spoon]

Looking like SD is going to sign SF's D coordinator which makes me feel a little better. Overall, not bad coaches in theory, let's just see what that translates to in games. If Turner doesn't have an influence on them, they'll be fine.

[cougarjake13]

Looking like SD is going to sign SF's D coordinator which makes me feel a little better. Overall, not bad coaches in theory, let's just see what that translates to in games. If Turner doesn't have an influence on them, they'll be fine.

who mike nolan ??

[Snacks]

who mike nolan ??

mike nolan was their head coach a few years ago he is now the dolphins d cord!

[cougarjake13]

mike nolan was their head coach a few years ago he is now the dolphins d cord!

o yeh thats right


i dont pay much attention to that division

[razorboy]

who mike nolan ??

Greg Manusky. Nolan has been with the Broncos and Dolphins the last two years.

[cougarjake13]

Greg Manusky. Nolan has been with the Broncos and Dolphins the last two years.

yeh i dont know why but i forgot nolan was coach for niners

[Ogre]

I found out today that the Patriots own the Panthers' 2nd round pick. Which means the Patriots own their own 1st rounder, the 17th pick and the 33rd pick. Fucking amazing.

Folks waiting for Belicheck's demise, might want to pack a lunch. It's gonna be awhile.

[KnoxHarrington]

I found out today that the Patriots own the Panthers' 2nd round pick. Which means the Patriots own their own 1st rounder, the 17th pick and the 33rd pick. Fucking amazing.

And they're going to use those three picks for three players who add to the team and help immediately.

Meanwhile, the #1 pick will probably go to Cam "Dude, I Got Your Dell" Newton, who's going to be the second coming of JaMarcus Russell in the NFL.

[boobieman]

Eagles fire thier DC...THANK GOD

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81db2c4c/article/eagles-fire-dc-mcdermott-who-could-land-in-denver-carolina?module=HP_headlines

We need a line that can get in at the quarterback and DB that can cover...FOR GOD SAKE

SSEYAYYAYSYEAAAA

[TripleSkeet]

Eagles fire thier DC...THANK GOD

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81db2c4c/article/eagles-fire-dc-mcdermott-who-could-land-in-denver-carolina?module=HP_headlines

We need a line that can get in at the quarterback and DB that can cover...FOR GOD SAKE

SSEYAYYAYSYEAAAA

While Im not a fan of his I wasnt sure if their horseshit defense was his fault, or the fault that he had maybe 3 starters that were at least decent. I wouldve given him another shot, but oh well. Maybe Mike Singletary will take the job.

That fucking walrus needs to find someone that knows how to draft defensive players...because he sure as fuck doesnt.

[Justice4all]

Well well well...looks like the Patriots are just as much the 'classless clowns' the Jets called left and right. (http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/nfl-on-fox?vid=51c3fe0a-c811-4bcd-af34-3ede438891ae&from=foxsports/Home/headlines)

That little 'tripping wall' the Jets did (which was bush league...)....was also done by the Pats.

Stay classy New England.

[TripleSkeet]

Well well well...looks like the Patriots are just as much the 'classless clowns' the Jets called left and right. (http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/nfl-on-fox?vid=51c3fe0a-c811-4bcd-af34-3ede438891ae&from=foxsports/Home/headlines)

That little 'tripping wall' the Jets did (which was bush league...)....was also done by the Pats.

Stay classy New England.

I never understood why fans of the game get so outraged over shit like this. Just like the whole Spygate thing. EVERY FUCKING TEAM in the NFL does whatever they can to get an edge over an opponent, even if its cheating. If the whole Spygate thing was such a big deal, coaches of teams all tghrough the league wouldve been publicly flipping out yet most of them didnt say a peep, because they all know there are things theyve done to get an edge that they can be called on if they are investigated.

If you aint cheating, you aint trying. Thats a mantra every NFL team follows.

[spoon]

I never understood why fans of the game get so outraged over shit like this. Just like the whole Spygate thing. EVERY FUCKING TEAM in the NFL does whatever they can to get an edge over an opponent, even if its cheating. If the whole Spygate thing was such a big deal, coaches of teams all tghrough the league wouldve been publicly flipping out yet most of them didnt say a peep, because they all know there are things theyve done to get an edge that they can be called on if they are investigated.

If you aint cheating, you aint trying. Thats a mantra every NFL team follows.

sure and ever player in mlb did steroids

no

[TripleSkeet]

sure and ever player in mlb did steroids

no

Its not the same thing. And yes, they all do it. Coaches teach offensive lineman how to hold without getting caught. Players are told in piles while trying to recover a fumble to bite and eye gouge to try and get the ball loose. Grounds crews are instructed to not tend to their field in order to hinder faster teams. All forms of cheating whether you want to accept it or not.

[Snacks]

Its not the same thing. And yes, they all do it. Coaches teach offensive lineman how to hold without getting caught. Players are told in piles while trying to recover a fumble to bite and eye gouge to try and get the ball loose. Grounds crews are instructed to not tend to their field in order to hinder faster teams. All forms of cheating whether you want to accept it or not.

I agree with you on all of this except filming the other teams. Sorry but when you know what the other team has in store for you and their game plan the night before the game you tend to have an unfair advantage. I dont mind any of that you mentioned because it is all true and how football is taught from our youth. But Im not down with spygate. I will say it again. Since spygate they cant win the big games. During spygate they won very close games, by last second fg's. shady shit!

[spoon]

Its not the same thing. And yes, they all do it. Coaches teach offensive lineman how to hold without getting caught. Players are told in piles while trying to recover a fumble to bite and eye gouge to try and get the ball loose. Grounds crews are instructed to not tend to their field in order to hinder faster teams. All forms of cheating whether you want to accept it or not.

Yah sure TS, all coaches tell their players to eye gouge and bite. The other examples are gamesmanship at best, not cheating. And even IF (huge if) you think it is cheating, it's not the same thing in any way to filming or taking drugs. Personally I don't accept that at all and you saying it is no matter what isn't a fact by any means.

[underdog]

I agree with you on all of this except filming the other teams. Sorry but when you know what the other team has in store for you and their game plan the night before the game you tend to have an unfair advantage. I dont mind any of that you mentioned because it is all true and how football is taught from our youth. But Im not down with spygate. I will say it again. Since spygate they cant win the big games. During spygate they won very close games, by last second fg's. shady shit!

I think the filming was far more widespread through the league, only the Patriots were stupid enough to get caught doing it. And once the huge penalty came down, it was enough of a deterrent to make most teams stop doing it.

[TripleSkeet]

I think the filming was far more widespread through the league, only the Patriots were stupid enough to get caught doing it. And once the huge penalty came down, it was enough of a deterrent to make most teams stop doing it.

This. Thats why hardly any teams came out and openly criticized them for it. If it were that big a deal coaches and GMs around the league wouldve went apeshit over it.

I dont know where taking drugs came into this conversation, personally I dont think steroids should be banned at all but I never said it didnt give players an unfair advantage.

[hanso]

@ Snacks You think the Fins will use Ricky Williams as trade / draft bait after all the bad mouthing he did?

They could use a higher pick to go after a QB in the draft.

[Snacks]

@ Snacks You think the Fins will use Ricky Williams as trade / draft bait after all the bad mouthing he did?

They could use a higher pick to go after a QB in the draft.

No he is a free agent and so is Ronnie. I think Miami will let Ronnie go and bring Ricky back cheap. They will either go after Ingram in the draft or IMO wait for a later pick and draft a rb. I still like Henne, I think he played scared the 2nd half of the season and thats why I blamed Sporano and Henning. I think if they let him know its ok to make mistakes then he wont be so scared and wont make as many mistakes. Sounds stupid but I think it makes sense. If they dont trust Henne then they will go after Kolb or draft someone with their 3rd round pick unless they trade up or use their 1st rounder. I have also read that if Chilly is the O Cord they will sign McNabb., I hope not!

We have a great def top 5 in the league and we have Marshall who is one of the best wr in the league and Bess who is a top 3 slot wr in the league. We need a TE and good coaching and either Henne to turn things around or another QB and we will be fine.

[hanso]

After what Ricky said (if you haven't heard, you should look up the interview) in trashing everyone. It seems that was his ticket out of playing on the team.

I'm with you on McNabb or even Young. Right now the Browns OC (that placed 1 rung lower on offence over all) is the front runner and is near being hired.

[Snacks]

After what Ricky said (if you haven't heard, you should look up the interview) in trashing everyone. It seems that was his ticket out of playing on the team.

I'm with you on McNabb or even Young. Right now the Browns OC (that placed 1 rung lower on offence over all) is the front runner and is near being hired.

I heard what Ricky said but I also believe its nothing that would prevent him or the team from signing him once he cools down.

I hope they sign Chilly he is a good offensive minded coach. We dont need anymore shit O cord!

[hanso]

I heard what Ricky said but I also believe its nothing that would prevent him or the team from signing him once he cools down.

I hope they sign Chilly he is a good offensive minded coach. We dont need anymore shit O cord!

With McNabb no. Klob yes.
Thing is Klob seems to be out of reach. As might be the case of grasping a west coast system with Henne.

[TripleSkeet]

I have also read that if Chilly is the O Cord they will sign McNabb., I hope not!


I would SO love this.

[underdog]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/al-davis.jpg

[weekapaugjz]

so what? the walking dead was on months ago.

[Barnaby Jones]

That's my guy!!! I was just coming here to post that!!! He's putting the hex on the Packers and the Steelers!!! He hates teams that have the color yellow in his uniform because it reminds him of his paper-y, jaundiced looking skin!!!

[hanso]

On the video has hand does this weird flipper deal.

Fins got that Browns OC to be their own. That's a step up. Wait no it is really a step back if you go by total offence last season.

[cougarjake13]

I never understood why fans of the game get so outraged over shit like this. Just like the whole Spygate thing. EVERY FUCKING TEAM in the NFL does whatever they can to get an edge over an opponent, even if its cheating. If the whole Spygate thing was such a big deal, coaches of teams all tghrough the league wouldve been publicly flipping out yet most of them didnt say a peep, because they all know there are things theyve done to get an edge that they can be called on if they are investigated.

If you aint cheating, you aint trying. Thats a mantra every NFL team follows.

the tripping part is fucked up and easily caught


but if having that wall of guys stand there fucks up the gunner but they dont touch him and it helps the returner gain extra yards or even score a td then fuck yeh im all for it

[cougarjake13]

I think the filming was far more widespread through the league, only the Patriots were stupid enough to get caught doing it. And once the huge penalty came down, it was enough of a deterrent to make most teams stop doing it.

like the baseball team that got caught stealing signs from center field

im sure all teams or at least a majority were doing it just only the one or few teams got caught

[cougarjake13]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/al-davis.jpg

thats the scariest thing ive ever seen



ah maybe second scariest ... if he was doing the shocker would be first

[Judge Smails]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/al-davis.jpg


A Commitment To Pestilence

[weekapaugjz]

A Commitment To Pestilence

:lol:

[Justice4all]

A Commitment To Pestilence

Brilliant!

And on a similar note...
Al Davis rips Cable at the press conference. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/18/davis.raiders.ap.ap/index.html)

Guess he didn't really like the guy at all....shocker

[Snoogans]

Brilliant!

And on a similar note...
Al Davis rips Cable at the press conference. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/18/davis.raiders.ap.ap/index.html)

Guess he didn't really like the guy at all....shocker

another shocker. Big Al is attempting to claim cause and not pay cablethe couple bonuses from last season he owes him

[spoon]

I can't imagine why the Raiders can't get it together?

[Tenbatsuzen]

another shocker. Big Al is attempting to claim cause and not pay cablethe couple bonuses from last season he owes him

The thing is, after the Hanson thing, he's got a point. Cable was the first coach Davis could have legitimately fired with cause. I mean, most people were shocked the Raiders kept Cable on after the Hanson thing, then a year later, they are shocked they didn't renew his contract?

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/al-davis.jpg

My grandmother is 20 years older and a shit-ton poorer than Al Davis and still looks 100x better.

[spoon]

My grandmother is 20 years older and a shit-ton poorer than Al Davis and still looks 100x better.

It must be bc she spends a lot of time in your cryogenic family room.

[cougarjake13]

I can't imagine why the Raiders can't get it together?

it will all chabge when he dies




raiders fans hope

[Earlshog]

http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27196188

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is reporting that Bengals QB Carson Palmer wants out of Cincinnati and, if he’s not dealt, he could retire from football.

[Snacks]

http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27196188

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is reporting that Bengals QB Carson Palmer wants out of Cincinnati and, if he’s not dealt, he could retire from football.

That could change the draft board. Dont they have like the 2nd or 3rd pick?

[epo]

If you are the Bengals don't you wish you could get something for Palmer and get rid of his cap number?

[TripleSkeet]

If you are the Bengals don't you wish you could get something for Palmer and get rid of his cap number?

Yea but that would make sense, and this is the Bengals we are talking about.

[Snoogans]

Cutler torn MCL

[underdog]

Cutler torn MCL

Lovie Smith said a sprain.

[cougarjake13]

If you are the Bengals don't you wish you could get something for Palmer and get rid of his cap number?

put him on the vikings


does that make them super bowl contenders ??

[epo]

put him on the vikings


does that make them super bowl contenders ??

Not even close at this point.

[Snoogans]

Not even close at this point.

i think that would make the vikings worse

[Justice4all]

Chad-Ocho-douchebag and Terrell-crybaby-Owens want to play for the jets. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/ochocino-t-o-want-to-play-for-the-jets/)

Good lord I hope that never happens.

[spoon]

If you are the Bengals don't you wish you could get something for Palmer and get rid of his cap number?

I'd much rather move the owner and coach!

[Snoogans]

Chad-Ocho-douchebag and Terrell-crybaby-Owens want to play for the jets. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/ochocino-t-o-want-to-play-for-the-jets/)

Good lord I hope that never happens.

you are such a fraud. why the fuck do you root for the jets?

[spoon]

Chad-Ocho-douchebag and Terrell-crybaby-Owens want to play for the jets. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/ochocino-t-o-want-to-play-for-the-jets/)

Good lord I hope that never happens.

Your nicknames are worse than Berman and those Tenbats loves to parrot. And are you really surprised assholes flock to an asshole? Rex is a better than average coach I'm not stupid but won't commit much further than that. Yet he has no discipline and let's the assholes be just that. So sure, why not? I hope they go there too and TO starts crying about the ducks and shorties Sanchez throws all over the field.

[Justice4all]

you are such a fraud. why the fuck do you root for the jets?

More like why the fuck would I want those assholes to live anywhere in NJ?

And how am I a fraud if I root for the Jets?

[Justice4all]

Your nicknames are worse than Berman and those Tenbats loves to parrot. And are you really surprised assholes flock to an asshole? Rex is a better than average coach I'm not stupid but won't commit much further than that. Yet he has no discipline and let's the assholes be just that. So sure, why not? I hope they go there too and TO starts crying about the ducks and shorties Sanchez throws all over the field.


you SURE about that there professor? They might wind up to be your neighbors!

[foodcourtdruide]

I'd love to have T.O. on the Colts. He had a great year before getting injured. He'd compliment Wayne really well.

[spoon]

you SURE about that there professor? They might wind up to be your neighbors!

Jets never live close to me, it's all Giants. I know bc I they all wear sweats with guns in the waist band and throw helmets at oncoming traffic.

[boobieman]

More like why the fuck would I want those assholes to live anywhere in NJ?

And how am I a fraud if I root for the Jets?

Hey I am born and breed in Good old Brooklyn NY..and I am a DIE hard Eagles fan...Hey I touch the state so....


SSEYAYYYEYAYYAAA

[cougarjake13]

sportscenter reporting jeff fisher is out




http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6066144

[TripleSkeet]

sportscenter reporting jeff fisher is out




http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6066144

Already heard rumors tonight about him becoming Phillys defensive coordinator. Personally I dont see how thats possible, I would think the guy would have a ton of head coaching offers, but it would at least explain why the Eagles have had zero sense of urgency in finding a replacement, as if they were waiting for something to happen.

[Justice4all]

sportscenter reporting jeff fisher is out




http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6066144

Slight bit of shock on that news

[HBox]

Already heard rumors tonight about him becoming Phillys defensive coordinator. Personally I dont see how thats possible, I would think the guy would have a ton of head coaching offers, but it would at least explain why the Eagles have had zero sense of urgency in finding a replacement, as if they were waiting for something to happen.

They did just hire Tennessee's D-Line coach who is very highly respected and had been there for 12 years. He left out of nowhere. I still don't see Fisher coming to Philly though.

[Snacks]

Already heard rumors tonight about him becoming Phillys defensive coordinator. Personally I dont see how thats possible, I would think the guy would have a ton of head coaching offers, but it would at least explain why the Eagles have had zero sense of urgency in finding a replacement, as if they were waiting for something to happen.

I doubt it. Hes not a guy who was given a Head coaching job and it didnt work out after 2 or 3 years and will take any job. Hes a 17 year head coach who will probably sit back and wait for the right job. Hes highly respected so he will probably get tv work until he makes his decision!