2011-12 NFL Season

[underdog]

I hate when broadcasters and sports talk people refer to players by their nicknames.

And why the hell is Matt Ryan known as " Matty Ice " ?

Does he have some incredible winning percentage or come from behind record that I'm unaware of ?

What's so " ice " about him ?

In college, he'd play SO BAD for 3 quarters that his good team was almost always behind, so he'd always need a 4th quarter comeback to win. And announcers gave him that awful nickname.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In college, he'd play SO BAD for 3 quarters that his good team was almost always behind, so he'd always need a 4th quarter comeback to win. And announcers gave him that awful nickname.

Tebow Ice?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I missed the discussion of the last few pages. I think this is the summary:

1. Tebow likes Jesus
2. Tebow and Sanchez are both shitty QBs.
3. Thomas is a great WR
4. Marty wants Tebow to be the President.

Did I miss anything?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Sk_Pgb7EDjE/TQtUK1kQ_GI/AAAAAAAAAlU/NBnXQrN0cFM/s1600/p1.Schottenheimer.getty.jpg

[JimBeam]

In college, he'd play SO BAD for 3 quarters that his good team was almost always behind, so he'd always need a 4th quarter comeback to win. And announcers gave him that awful nickname.

So he took his college name to the pros ?

Shouldn't it phase away when it's irrelevant ?

Stupid announcers.

[TripleSkeet]

This Tebow stuff drives me crazy.

Sure there are people on the the exreme who want to give him all of the credit but there are far too many more that disecet a game finding out why they win in spite of Tebow.

I mean everybody knew going into the game that Pittsburgh was banged up but they still had Harrison, Polemoleu ( sp ??? ), Big Ben and Hines Ward some of their better players.

Yet now the reason they lost has nothing to do what what Denver did but what Pittsburgh couldn't do because of injuries ?

You don't hear much about how good offensive lines and kickers when Brady wins but all of a sudden when a " below average " QB helps his teams win games it's all about the supporting cast and not the QB.

I didn't think Denver had a chance to win that game as I didn't think they had a chance to win against the Jets and I don't think they'll beat the Patriots

But obvioulsy they are doing something right and it's working so who knows.

I guess I can expect to hear about who the Patriots didn't have for the game if Denver pulls off te upset.

Exactly this. Even with the injuries, Vegas had Pittsburgh as 8 1/2 point favorites on the road. Nobody thought they had a chance. He put up over 300 yards and almsot 30 points on their D.

Even I dont think hell beat New England but Im starting to hope he does just so I can hear all the excuses for that one.

Bottom line, the kid fucking wins.

[JimBeam]

And again I don't think anybody w/ any sense is saying it's all due to him.

It's a team effort as it is any time teams win.

No more and no less.

[ozzie]

Atlanta Falcons just lost their DC to Auburn.

Nothing yet to indicate if he was asked / pushed to seek other employment, or if he just left on his own.

I've seen mixed reactions from "good riddance", to "that sux. total shock. thought there might be changes, but never expected to lose van gorder". The last was paraphrased from one of the Falcons' beat reporters.

Unfortunately, due to the NFL's fucking "regional coverage" shit, I've had to watch a lot of Falcons games, including the one this weekend.

Personally, I think it's a home run hire for Auburn, and the Falcons' loss.

[sailor]

And again I don't think anybody w/ any sense is saying it's all due to him.

It's a team effort as it is any time teams win.

No more and no less.

People do, but it's obviously a goof.

[cougarjake13]

huh?

:wacko:

That Giant defense is going to take it to the Pack defense huh?

I think he's assuming the giants will still score a lot of points

[cougarjake13]

Atlanta Falcons just lost their DC to Auburn.

Nothing yet to indicate if he was asked / pushed to seek other employment, or if he just left on his own.

I've seen mixed reactions from "good riddance", to "that sux. total shock. thought there might be changes, but never expected to lose van gorder". The last was paraphrased from one of the Falcons' beat reporters.

Unfortunately, due to the NFL's fucking "regional coverage" shit, I've had to watch a lot of Falcons games, including the one this weekend.

Personally, I think it's a home run hire for Auburn, and the Falcons' loss.

Well this weekend it was the only game so u were gonna get it regardless

[ozzie]

Well this weekend it was the only game so u were gonna get it regardless

Yeah, but during the regular season, the "regional coverage" for this area sucks balls.

Fucking saints, falcons, jags, titans... sometimes bucs and fins. Not one team that I give two shits about.

Not getting even a minute of that pack vs lions game that last weekend about put me over the edge.

I know what you're trying to do, NFL, and it's NOT going to work! Fuck you and your NFL Sunday Ticket! I'm not paying for it!

[newport king]

No redzone channel available ozzie? Which i have to say, has completely ruined watching football for me. I need constant action and scoring.

[hanso]

Again, you're wrong.

Did he make the pass, execute the play called? Did he have a much better game overall (yet still eh numbers % wise and more) and Kev's comment is off? Yest to all of these, but he did NOT make some Peyton Manning-esque read you fool.


* Nice to see/read that so many others just killed Tenbats for claiming Tebow "read the d". He was so confident and brazen about it, he posted it twice and in caps. Some funny shit.

Heard he changed the play today. Not saying it's right or wrong just that's what I heard.

[Kevin]

I think he's assuming the giants will still score a lot of points

Yup!

If the Giants D can play even decent, The Giants Offense will score on them..

[Kevin]

I missed the discussion of the last few pages. I think this is the summary:

1. Tebow likes Jesus
2. Tebow and Sanchez are both shitty QBs.
3. Thomas is a great WR
4. Marty wants Tebow to be the President.

Did I miss anything?

Pretty much nailed it...

[Snoogans]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Sk_Pgb7EDjE/TQtUK1kQ_GI/AAAAAAAAAlU/NBnXQrN0cFM/s1600/p1.Schottenheimer.getty.jpg

stop making me laugh, dickhead

[epo]

The only thing I fear at this point is the Hippo Jinx.

[Judge Smails]

The only thing I fear at this point is the Hippo Jinx.


Body Pulled From River Could Be Packers Offensive Coordinator’s Son (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/sports/football/recovered-body-could-be-packers-assistants-son.html)</NYT_HEADLINE>

[keithy_19]

The only thing I fear at this point is the Hippo Jinx.

Body Pulled From River Could Be Packers Offensive Coordinator’s Son (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/sports/football/recovered-body-could-be-packers-assistants-son.html)</NYT_HEADLINE>

I shouldn't have laughed at this.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Body Pulled From River Could Be Packers Offensive Coordinator’s Son (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/sports/football/recovered-body-could-be-packers-assistants-son.html)</NYT_HEADLINE>

I hate the fact, for no reason whatsoever, they brought up the kid's record, like that has anything to do with the case.

They were trying to make a salacious story out of what turned out to be an accident.

[Snacks]

I hate the fact, for no reason whatsoever, they brought up the kid's record, like that has anything to do with the case.

They were trying to make a salacious story out of what turned out to be an accident.

thats the shitty media world we live in. they love to make everyone look as bad as possible instead of reporting the current story/situation only. its a fucking shame!

[Tenbatsuzen]

thats the shitty media world we live in. they love to make everyone look as bad as possible instead of reporting the current story/situation only. its a fucking shame!

I'll give you another example:

Earlier this year, there was a triple or quadruple homicide nearly Philly. If memory serves, the homeowner, his nephew, the nephew's girlfriend, and a child were killed.

The nephew apparently served time for armed robbery and some other crimes, and the media INSTANTLY leapt that his dealings once he got out of jail is what led to this. Totally manipulating the story that it was the nephew's fault that they all got killed.

Turns out, the shooter was targeting the homeowner - not the nephew - because of a business deal gone bad. Shooter then killed everyone else in the house.

[spoon]

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399598_10151122483025062_811850061_21876548_162221 8949_n.jpg?dl=1

Yah but Big Raping Ben has no need for it bc he has multiple titles.

[spoon]

Here's the thing: if Tebow can actually learn to throw, he is indeed gonna be awesome. But the fact is that the Steelers were completely giving up the pass all day, and he was still successful on less than half of his passes.

I know that Tebow does seem to have this thing of making some awesome play at just the right time, but you can't count on that. A franchise quarterback can't suck most of the time but have a "flash of brilliance" at the end; they've gotta be great the entire game.

Tebow has the "intangibles" that they always talk about for a QB: he's smart, he seems to be a good leader, and, as much as he can suck the rest of the game, he doesn't seem to choke. But you need more than "intangibles." The problem with Tebow is the fundamental mechanics of his game. And it may be, sadly, that he just doesn't have what he needs to fix those.

Until Tebow shows much more consistency in his passing game, the Broncos would be stupid to commit to him as their franchise quarterback. And I think Elway knows this, but the stupid fans are just blown away by him and think that benching him means you hate Jesus.

First off, "if he can learn to throw" at the end of his second full NFL year and already 24 years old...good luck Denver. You can tweak a delivery, but not overhaul it completely and all of a sudden make a guy's release quicker, arm stronger and ability to read/feel the play better. The latter can happen the easiest, but that's more about aptitude, intelligence and football awareness. Some parts moldable, others inherited/instinct based.

Which ties in nicely to you claim the guy is "smart". What are you going on with this? The guy took a joke major and graduated with a good gpa, but come on, I didn't even know you could major in that! Oh and his wonderlic was pretty sad too. Not Vince Young bad, but not good.

From an ESPN report/story:
While former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow wowed evaluators with his on-field performance at the NFL combine last month, he scored a 22 out of 50 on the Wonderlic test, the Palm Beach Post reported, citing an NFL source.

The 12-minute test measures an individual's learning and problem-solving abilities.

According to the Post, the average Wonderlic score for an NFL quarterback is 24. The newspaper also reported that the quarterback prospects in Mel Kiper Jr.'s latest rankings on ESPN.com -- Sam Bradford of Oklahoma (36), Colt McCoy of Texas (25) and Jimmy Clausen of Notre Dame (23) -- scored higher than Tebow.

...

Tebow is a Heisman Trophy winner who won two national championships at Florida. According to the newspaper, he graduated with a 3.66 GPA majoring in family, youth and community services.

[spoon]

This Tebow stuff drives me crazy.

Sure there are people on the the exreme who want to give him all of the credit but there are far too many more that disecet a game finding out why they win in spite of Tebow.

I mean everybody knew going into the game that Pittsburgh was banged up but they still had Harrison, Polemoleu ( sp ??? ), Big Ben and Hines Ward some of their better players.

Yet now the reason they lost has nothing to do what what Denver did but what Pittsburgh couldn't do because of injuries ?

You don't hear much about how good offensive lines and kickers when Brady wins but all of a sudden when a " below average " QB helps his teams win games it's all about the supporting cast and not the QB.

I didn't think Denver had a chance to win that game as I didn't think they had a chance to win against the Jets and I don't think they'll beat the Patriots

But obvioulsy they are doing something right and it's working so who knows.

I guess I can expect to hear about who the Patriots didn't have for the game if Denver pulls off te upset.

You're joking right?! Bc all I heard all fucking year was how this was Tebow and a few that said he's barely managing games get attacked as if they are going after Jesus Christ even though they're right. Brady gets a ton of credit bc he's a HUGE reason those teams win, and it's not like the HC and guys like Moss and Gronkowski get no credit when they were/are on.

To discredit anyone saying pitt was banged up and not the same team of the last few years, is to be dead wrong. Ward is barely a 4th wr now too, so mentioning him as still playing is pretty funny. Ben was and hasn't been anywhere near his norm since the injury. He gets away from almost no pressure (even though he still seemingly fearless in there), his throwing lanes are terrible, he can't drive through his throws and of course he has almost NO mobility. As for Harrison, he simply played awful and both he and Troy Palmamamaaumaauau (also hurt bad all year/toughed this game out) are pretty much marginalized in today's NFL unless they want fines.

[spoon]

Exactly this. Even with the injuries, Vegas had Pittsburgh as 8 1/2 point favorites on the road. Nobody thought they had a chance. He put up over 300 yards and almsot 30 points on their D.

Even I dont think hell beat New England but Im starting to hope he does just so I can hear all the excuses for that one.

Bottom line, the kid fucking wins.

I can't believe you are saying this. The guy is 8-6 in the regular season as a fucking starter...that's fucking FAR from what you insinuate. Also, not only should he have lost many more (think Chicago/SD and more this year alone), his D is much more responsible for those wins but regardless he's 8-6. 8-6! Just stop people.

[spoon]

Atlanta Falcons just lost their DC to Auburn.

Nothing yet to indicate if he was asked / pushed to seek other employment, or if he just left on his own.

I've seen mixed reactions from "good riddance", to "that sux. total shock. thought there might be changes, but never expected to lose van gorder". The last was paraphrased from one of the Falcons' beat reporters.

Unfortunately, due to the NFL's fucking "regional coverage" shit, I've had to watch a lot of Falcons games, including the one this weekend.

Personally, I think it's a home run hire for Auburn, and the Falcons' loss.

The Falcons have been awful on D FOREVER! I think it's a better move for the Falcons unless you watch the games fucking lit up. This was one of their better years on d and they were still fucking middle of the pack/shitty at best.

[TripleSkeet]

I can't believe you are saying this. The guy is 8-6 in the regular season as a fucking starter...that's fucking FAR from what you insinuate. Also, not only should he have lost many more (think Chicago/SD and more this year alone), his D is much more responsible for those wins but regardless he's 8-6. 8-6! Just stop people.

Im not christening the kid John Elway junior. But people that say he cant play are just ridiculous. Hes one win away from the AFC Championship game. Ya gotta be able to play somewhat to get there. His defense is good, but its not the fucking steel curtain. I like to fuck around with the haters, I know hes not great, but hes not godawful either.

This comes back to the same arguments Ive had with people about McNabb. Some people feel its all physical skill that makes you a good QB. While its important Ive always argued theres more to it than that. Otherwise Jeff George, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, and alot of other guys would be champions. It also takes guts, poise, leadership, and the ability to make your teammates believe in you. Tebows got all of that. Sometimes it looks like that and his scrambling ability is all hes got, but too many times people dont realize that shit is just as important as arm strength if not more.

[Snacks]

Im not christening the kid John Elway junior. But people that say he cant play are just ridiculous. Hes one win away from the AFC Championship game. Ya gotta be able to play somewhat to get there. His defense is good, but its not the fucking steel curtain. I like to fuck around with the haters, I know hes not great, but hes not godawful either.

This comes back to the same arguments Ive had with people about McNabb. Some people feel its all physical skill that makes you a good QB. While its important Ive always argued theres more to it than that. Otherwise Jeff George, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, and alot of other guys would be champions. It also takes guts, poise, leadership, and the ability to make your teammates believe in you. Tebows got all of that. Sometimes it looks like that and his scrambling ability is all hes got, but too many times people dont realize that shit is just as important as arm strength if not more.

and mark sanchez was 1 win away from the super bowl 2 years in a row and he is garbage. your reasoning makes no sense and goes back to the argument of team vs player. teams win championships not qbs. a great qb will help put a good team over the top and hopefully win multiple championships but a great team will always be more important and make a qb look better then he is.

[spoon]

Im not christening the kid John Elway junior. But people that say he cant play are just ridiculous. Hes one win away from the AFC Championship game. Ya gotta be able to play somewhat to get there. His defense is good, but its not the fucking steel curtain. I like to fuck around with the haters, I know hes not great, but hes not godawful either.

This comes back to the same arguments Ive had with people about McNabb. Some people feel its all physical skill that makes you a good QB. While its important Ive always argued theres more to it than that. Otherwise Jeff George, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, and alot of other guys would be champions. It also takes guts, poise, leadership, and the ability to make your teammates believe in you. Tebows got all of that. Sometimes it looks like that and his scrambling ability is all hes got, but too many times people dont realize that shit is just as important as arm strength if not more.

First off, yes bad qb's get to big games despite shitty qbs based on talent, physical and mental...sometimes both. Look no further then exhibit A, the AFC over the last two years.

Next, he is godawful in terms of anything that's related to throwing...period. Even in the win he was bad overall, it was DT and Royal that DID YAC it up like crazy. The guy completed 9 fucking passes in regulation and were in that game! NINE! And this was his GOOD game of the last say, 5 games or so. And I can't believe anyone, much less someone who watches football and is as big a fan as you, would say scrambling ability is just as important as arm strength, if not more.

[ozzie]

The Falcons have been awful on D FOREVER! I think it's a better move for the Falcons unless you watch the games fucking lit up. This was one of their better years on d and they were still fucking middle of the pack/shitty at best.

I guess you don't remember how bad they were before. They showed immediate improvement in his first year. And it's not like Atlanta has been loaded with talent on defense. Besides Abraham, most people couldn't even name another Falcons starter. This last year wasn't even his best.

Falcons under Van Gorder:

2007 (pre-Van Gorder): Allowed 414 points (25.9/g), 29th.
2008: Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th, 25th against the run, 21st against the pass
2009: Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 14th, 10th against the run, 28th against the pass
2010: Allowed 288 points (18.0/g), 5th, 10th against the run, 22nd against the pass
2011: Allowed 350 points (21.9/g), 18th, 6th against the run, 20th against the pass

I still say it's their loss.

[ozzie]

And I love the guy's intensity:

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/oh-my.gif

Plus, UGA fans loved the guy when he was there, and hated to see him go.

This isn't quite on the level of little nicky saban coming back from the NFL to run another SEC West program... but it's close. UGA fans are not happy. And it could be a double shocker if the Falcons go in and steal their current DC as a replacement for Van Gorder.

[TripleSkeet]

First off, yes bad qb's get to big games despite shitty qbs based on talent, physical and mental...sometimes both. Look no further then exhibit A, the AFC over the last two years.

Next, he is godawful in terms of anything that's related to throwing...period. Even in the win he was bad overall, it was DT and Royal that DID YAC it up like crazy. The guy completed 9 fucking passes in regulation and were in that game! NINE! And this was his GOOD game of the last say, 5 games or so. And I can't believe anyone, much less someone who watches football and is as big a fan as you, would say scrambling ability is just as important as arm strength, if not more.

I never said scrambling ability was. But I believe those other things, leadership, poise, having your teammates believe if they can stay close you can win it at the end for them, I think thats huge in a QB. Its the main reason I always hated McNabb......that and because hes black.

[spoon]

Grimes is a sick corner!

[TripleSkeet]

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9868/222lb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/222lb.jpg/)

[cougarjake13]

Hahha nice

[underdog]

Hue Jackson - FIIIIIIIIIIIIRED (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7447129/oakland-raiders-fire-coach-hue-jackson-1-year-source-says)

[Snoogans]

Hue Jackson - FIIIIIIIIIIIIRED (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7447129/oakland-raiders-fire-coach-hue-jackson-1-year-source-says)

ART SHELL!

[sailor]

So upset by this. I thought with Davis dead the raiders might have some stability for a change. Hue did a good job, the team was better than last year, but had some shitty injuries. Other than the way they finished games when they had fourth quarter leads I was very happy as a fan.

[hanso]

C'mon Jeff Fisher pick the Dolphins "Fish' is in your name FFS.

[cougarjake13]

C'mon Jeff Fisher pick the Dolphins "Fish' is in your name FFS.

Let's see

Face the patsies and jets twice a year

Or

Play. In NFC west

[hanso]

Let's see

Face the patsies and jets twice a year

Or

Play. In NFC west

If I were him going to Rams. I would do everthing to get RG3. Got a feeling he don't like their QB also, from meeting with him.

[Kevin]

If I were him going to Rams. I would do everthing to get RG3. Got a feeling he don't like their QB also, from meeting with him.

Come on they can't give up on future stats that fast

[spoon]

So upset by this. I thought with Davis dead the raiders might have some stability for a change. Hue did a good job, the team was better than last year, but had some shitty injuries. Other than the way they finished games when they had fourth quarter leads I was very happy as a fan.

they were 7-4 and fleeced some huge future picks to fill the QB hole left by injury and finished 8-8...1-4 to finish and miss the playoffs by a tie-breaker, so I can see why they weren't happy, not to mention how they have the new GM coming in to put his stamp on things.

[spoon]

If I were him I'd go with Oakland, but I'm not looking forward to playing him twice a year.

[cougarjake13]

, not to mention how they have the new GM coming in to put his stamp on things.

this had more to do with it I think

[Tenbatsuzen]

Schotty out. Thank Christ.

[Snacks]

Schotty out. Thank Christ.

was he fired because he didnt get the jax job and i havent read anything yet that says anything about him.

[spoon]

Schotty out. Thank Christ.

whipping boy out! who will they blame next time!

"Can't wait" till the end of the 2012 season when the Jets finish below .500 and all shit hits the fan!

[Tenbatsuzen]

was he fired because he didnt get the jax job and i havent read anything yet that says anything about him.

And Tony Sparano is the new Jets OC.

That said: I think the writing was on the wall about Schotty. He "resigned" to get a fresh start, but I think he was given a settlement to go away. It's a PR face-saving move so he can get a OC job somewhere else down the road.

Then again, Alosi got a new job, so who knows.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW, for everyone to say that Schotty "took the fall"... HE CALLED SIXTY FUCKING PASS PLAYS ON THE GIANTS.

[Snacks]

And Tony Sparano is the new Jets OC.

That said: I think the writing was on the wall about Schotty. He "resigned" to get a fresh start, but I think he was given a settlement to go away. It's a PR face-saving move so he can get a OC job somewhere else down the road.

Then again, Alosi got a new job, so who knows.

this will make me so happy. how could you hire him as the cord when he has no balls to go for anything. he is run, throw 2 yard pass, wildcat, hope a pray for a 1st down and if not be so fired up you got a fg that his head explodes.

if you guys thought schotty didnt give sanchez any confidence to throw down the field or plays to help him grow just wait til you see this mess in action.

[Tenbatsuzen]

this will make me so happy. how could you hire him as the cord when he has no balls to go for anything. he is run, throw 2 yard pass, wildcat, hope a pray for a 1st down and if not be so fired up you got a fg that his head explodes.

if you guys thought schotty didnt give sanchez any confidence to throw down the field or plays to help him grow just wait til you see this mess in action.

I didn't do the hiring. I wanted Haley or Callahan, if anyone. Not happy. but change is good.

[Snacks]

I didn't do the hiring. I wanted Haley or Callahan, if anyone. Not happy. but change is good.

change isnt always good.

[spoon]

BTW, for everyone to say that Schotty "took the fall"... HE CALLED SIXTY FUCKING PASS PLAYS ON THE GIANTS.

I'm sure the HC couldn't have said anything or changed it up right? Oh yah, perhaps it was the awful game plan of the fat loud coach. I'm sure next year will help this equation fine, unless they hire a great OC... oh yah, SORRReeeeee!

[spoon]

change isnt always good.

cough...marty for norv...cough

cough...aj smith for butler...cough

:glurps:

[Tenbatsuzen]

change isnt always good.

anythings better than schotty at this point. Lost the locker room, lost the fan base.

[hanso]

anythings better than schotty at this point. Lost the locker room, lost the fan base.

Next will be the O-line from your new "guru" OC. Get ready for retread FA lineman that are worse then any inhouse being plugged in. In some mad attempt to mix and match.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Next will be the O-line from your new "guru" OC. Get ready for retread FA lineman that are worse then any inhouse being plugged in. In some mad attempt to mix and match.

anything is fucking better than Wayne Hunter. Kathy Bates would be a better lineman.

[Snacks]

Next will be the O-line from your new "guru" OC. Get ready for retread FA lineman that are worse then any inhouse being plugged in. In some mad attempt to mix and match.

yeah like all players cut by dallas and miami

anything is fucking better than Wayne Hunter. Kathy Bates would be a better lineman.

you sure about that? i hope you enjoy Marc Colombo who was a bench player cut by dallas and no one else wanted. he became an instant starter on miami and sucked. he is now a free agent. enjoy him!

[Snoogans]

anythings better than schotty at this point. Lost the locker room, lost the fan base.

how do you know he lost the locker room? maybe rex lost the locker room by letting them all act like jerkoffs and do whatever they want. Maybe they are just jerkoffs who woulda done whatever they want regardless. Im sorry, i didnt know you were fuckin Greg McElroy

[spoon]

just call it women's intuition

[Judge Smails]

Wonder if epo bought stock in The Green Boy Packers?

Is that code for Wisconsin kid touchers?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201201/120110.07.jpg

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/10/packers-stock-sale-features-typo-delivery-glitches/

[spoon]

so odd

how does that get by any editor?

[PapaBear]

so odd

how does that get by any editor?
Spell check. This isn't a newspaper, but I've noticed this problem for quite a while. "Editors" barely exist anymore. Publishers rely too much on spell check, instead of actually reading content. "Boy" is correctly spelled.

[cougarjake13]

And Tony Sparano is the new Jets OC.

That said: I think the writing was on the wall about Schotty. He "resigned" to get a fresh start, but I think he was given a settlement to go away. It's a PR face-saving move so he can get a OC job somewhere else down the road.

Then again, Alosi got a new job, so who knows.

He'll be the bucs new oc

[cougarjake13]

I didn't do the hiring. I wanted Haley or Callahan, if anyone. Not happy. but change is good.

Callahans so In demand he took an o line job

[ozzie]

So upset by this. I thought with Davis dead the raiders might have some stability for a change. Hue did a good job, the team was better than last year, but had some shitty injuries. Other than the way they finished games when they had fourth quarter leads I was very happy as a fan.

I know they're looking for a new stadium deal too, and there's reportedly two groups down south that are ready to build one.

L.A. Raiders again?

[ozzie]

For the falcons fans who were crying about underachieving and wanting change... now both coordinators are gone.

And rumors about raiding UGA to steal Grantham may not be so far fetched.

[sailor]

I know they're looking for a new stadium deal too, and there's reportedly two groups down south that are ready to build one.

L.A. Raiders again?

I hope not.

[TripleSkeet]

Wonder if epo bought stock in The Green Boy Packers?

Is that code for Wisconsin kid touchers?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201201/120110.07.jpg

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/10/packers-stock-sale-features-typo-delivery-glitches/

Why the fuck would anyone buy that??? $525 for a piece of paper. Amazing the amount of suckers walking around.

[Snoogans]

oh those silly jets, ripping the shit out of Mark Sanchez without the balls to put their names to it:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395?pgno=1


pretty damning shit

“We already have his coach — Tom Moore,” one well-respected player said. “Plus, he’s a field general and will get everyone lined up. He will get his playmakers the ball. We can win a Super Bowl with Peyton.”

But can the Jets hoist the Lombardi Trophy with Sanchez?

“How can we when he’s not improving at all?” one of Sanchez’s teammates said. “He thinks he is, but he’s not. He has shown us what he’s capable of.”

[Snoogans]

A couple weeks ago, Sanchez dismissed a report that he was being coddled. His teammates disagreed.

“They don’t want to be truthful with him,” one prominent player said of the way that the organization has handled Sanchez. “They treat him like a baby instead of a man. He goes in a hole when someone tells him the truth.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395#ixzz1jAsGpWqf


what a bum

[TripleSkeet]

oh those silly jets, ripping the shit out of Mark Sanchez without the balls to put their names to it:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395?pgno=1


pretty damning shit

Cant blame them. They should put their name on it though. I mean, who the fuck would actually say "No. No need for Peyton Manning here. Weve already got a QB." with the exception of players from New Orleans, New England and Green Bay, Id guess nobody.

[cougarjake13]

oh those silly jets, ripping the shit out of Mark Sanchez without the balls to put their names to it:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395?pgno=1


pretty damning shit


Wow

And forget about the fact that they prob won't get Peyton but how can Sanchez show up in ota's and training camp knowing there's several guys who think he's shit?

[Snoogans]

Cant blame them. They should put their name on it though. I mean, who the fuck would actually say "No. No need for Peyton Manning here. Weve already got a QB." with the exception of players from New Orleans, New England and Green Bay, Id guess nobody.

im sure the Giants and Pitt would probably also say no, although id cut Rothlisberger immediately just for wearing that retarded hat. but yea otherwise, i dont see why you wouldnt.

thats the thing, this article is 3 pages long and just obliterates sanchez. and not ONE FUCKIN PERSON put their name on it. FAGGOTS.

But lets all kill mcelroy for not ripping a guy by name

[cougarjake13]

Cant blame them. They should put their name on it though. I mean, who the fuck would actually say "No. No need for Peyton Manning here. Weve already got a QB." with the exception of players from New Orleans, New England and Green Bay, Id guess nobody.


I think the giants would say theyre good with Eli
As well as Pitt with big Ben

[Snoogans]

A Jets spokesman declined to make Sanchez available for this story. A source close to the team pointed out that Sanchez’s inability to handle mounting criticism prompted him to unfollow every Jets beat writer on Twitter earlier this season.

“So that should tell you everything,” the source said. “He just doesn’t have the mental toughness to be great... especially in New York.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395#ixzz1jAuiRPIP


PUT YOUR NAME ON IT FAG. You are calling sanchez a giant pussy and you are scared to put the name on it?


I hope every source in this article is Greg McElroy and Mark Brunell

[Snoogans]

one more cause its so awesome. This is speaking of Peyton Manning:

“I don’t think that he’ll come here,” a member of the Jets organization said. “We have to change the perception of our organization. We’re not the organization that players said they wanted to play for a year or two ago. We’re starting to come across a little flaky. We talk the talk. We don’t back it up. We’re out of control. There’s no discipline. It’s a mess right now.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395#ixzz1jAvmGPXg

[Snoogans]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lol-eli-advice.jpg

[Snoogans]

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[Snoogans]

Could the New York Jets set up an intriguing quarterback competition involving division rivals Mark Sanchez and Chad Henne? That theory already is gaining steam after former Dolphins head coach Tony Sparano was officially named offensive coordinator of the Jets on Wednesday.

please

[Snacks]

Cant blame them. They should put their name on it though. I mean, who the fuck would actually say "No. No need for Peyton Manning here. Weve already got a QB." with the exception of players from New Orleans, New England and Green Bay, Id guess nobody.

i do think its bullshit that they didnt put their names on it but i understand especially after all the shit mcelory has gotten for what he said.

[Snacks]

please

Henne is better and will piss me off if he goes there and it will piss me off even more when he suceeds. i have said many time i still like henne and think he could be a very good qb in this league with better coaching. the only good thing is if he goes to the jets he will have the same shit coach (sporano) so it wont make him much better but he will be better then sanchez. now if he beats him out is another story.

[Kevin]

im sure the Giants and Pitt would probably also say no, although id cut Rothlisberger immediately just for wearing that retarded hat. but yea otherwise, i dont see why you wouldnt.

thats the thing, this article is 3 pages long and just obliterates sanchez. and not ONE FUCKIN PERSON put their name on it. FAGGOTS.

But lets all kill mcelroy for not ripping a guy by name

Because of age and injury I agree.

Even with his down year, I don't think SD does it either.

Det with Stafford...

[hanso]

Henne is better and will piss me off if he goes there and it will piss me off even more when he suceeds. i have said many time i still like henne and think he could be a very good qb in this league with better coaching. the only good thing is if he goes to the jets he will have the same shit coach (sporano) so it wont make him much better but he will be better then sanchez. now if he beats him out is another story.

Not onboard with Henne, I thought had he not gone down he would have done about the same as Sanchez & Jets.

On second thought he started 0-4 so that would have been the best outcome.

[Snacks]

so sporano was hired by the jets to be the offensive cord (hahah :clap::thumbup::happy::drunk::tongue::laugh: sorry needed the laugh) and now they are hiring or at least thinking about hiring the miserable todd haley. reports are sporano will focus on the run and haley will focus on the pass as a kind of co coordinator, duo, super team thingy!

yeah that should work out great with no confusion or anyone stepping on anyone's toes?!

[Snoogans]

so sporano was hired by the jets to be the offensive cord (hahah :clap::thumbup::happy::drunk::tongue::laugh: sorry needed the laugh) and now they are hiring or at least thinking about hiring the miserable todd haley. reports are sporano will focus on the run and haley will focus on the pass as a kind of co coordinator, duo, super team thingy!

yeah that should work out great with no confusion or anyone stepping on anyone's toes?!

i heard it different. I heard that Spo was gonna be straight OC and that Haley was actually coming in officially as Assistant Head Coach. what a fuckin triumvirate of head coaches the jets are piling up

id give it 4 months before Haley punches rex in the mouth

[HBox]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lol-eli-advice.jpg

That's hilarious! And the scary part is I can picture that actually happening.

[underdog]

so sporano was hired by the jets to be the offensive cord (hahah :clap::thumbup::happy::drunk::tongue::laugh: sorry needed the laugh) and now they are hiring or at least thinking about hiring the miserable todd haley. reports are sporano will focus on the run and haley will focus on the pass as a kind of co coordinator, duo, super team thingy!

yeah that should work out great with no confusion or anyone stepping on anyone's toes?!

I kind of hope they somehow land Manning now. It will be the biggest clusterfuck there. 3 coaches trying to assert their dominance over Manning.

[Snoogans]

I kind of hope they somehow land Manning now. It will be the biggest clusterfuck there. 3 coaches trying to assert their dominance over Manning.

i laugh at this only cause, why the FUCK would peyton manning go there? He doesnt strike me as the type of guy who wants his teammates running their mouths and his coach being a douche. In fact, it seems like it would piss him off.

Remember how much he fuckin flipped on whats his face, that kicker. Mike Vanderjact i think

[underdog]

i laugh at this only cause, why the FUCK would peyton manning go there? He doesnt strike me as the type of guy who wants his teammates running their mouths and his coach being a douche. In fact, it seems like it would piss him off.

Remember how much he fuckin flipped on whats his face, that kicker. Mike Vanderjact i think

It's been all the talk for the last couple days, and I think it's only because Tom Moore is already there and most news media is NY centric.

[Snoogans]

It's been all the talk for the last couple days, and I think it's only because Tom Moore is already there and most news media is NY centric.

i know but still. First off all, i love that people think QBs are machines. they dont runt he same offense. yea he is peyton, but he would still have to learn it. You cant just snap your fingers and make a QB fit in the way you can kinda get a DT in no problem

[spoon]

im sure the Giants and Pitt would probably also say no, although id cut Rothlisberger immediately just for wearing that retarded hat. but yea otherwise, i dont see why you wouldnt.

thats the thing, this article is 3 pages long and just obliterates sanchez. and not ONE FUCKIN PERSON put their name on it. FAGGOTS.

But lets all kill mcelroy for not ripping a guy by name

Yah, I kind of like McElroy's take...especially since he manned up by allowing his name even though he had to know he'd get flamed on it for being 3rd string/injured all year. These guys just sum up the overall character and maturity of the team Rex assembled over the last few years. If they think they're just a qb away from glory they need to revisit those games and look at some stats on both sides of the ball.

Clearly I don't like Sanchez's game or his season for that matter, but you also have guys going at each other, players quitting and others mouthing off like Rex bc it's Jet culture. You reap what you sow Rex. Team is a fucking mess.

Oh and SD wouldn't go after soon to be 36 year old Manning either. Rivers is a stud, even in this shitty year he's top 10 in almost every category or better.

[Snoogans]

Yah, I kind of like McElroy's take...especially since he manned up by allowing his name even though he had to know he'd get flamed on it for being 3rd string/injured all year. These guys just sum up the overall character and maturity of the team Rex assembled over the last few years. If they think they're just a qb away from glory they need to revisit those games and look at some stats on both sides of the ball.

Clearly I don't like Sanchez's game or his season for that matter, but you also have guys going at each other, players quitting and others mouthing off like Rex bc it's Jet culture. You reap what you sow Rex. Team is a fucking mess.

Oh and SD wouldn't go after soon to be 36 year old Manning either. Rivers is a stud, even in this shitty year he's top 10 in almost every category or better.

McElroy also managed to do it without naming his other teammates and throwing guys individually under the bus

[spoon]

PUT YOUR NAME ON IT FAG. You are calling sanchez a giant pussy and you are scared to put the name on it?


I hope every source in this article is Greg McElroy and Mark Brunell

yet how many athletes say they don't read articles on them/the team and don't watch the same on tv? Most is the answer, but we all know they do, including Sanchez in the end. It's not that Sanchez is so weak mentally, it's just he isn't a very good qb. Saying this isn't needed, and the team doing so in public versus with coaches and the rest of the team is pretty shitty.

[spoon]

one more cause its so awesome. This is speaking of Peyton Manning:

“I don’t think that he’ll come here,” a member of the Jets organization said. “We have to change the perception of our organization. We’re not the organization that players said they wanted to play for a year or two ago. We’re starting to come across a little flaky. We talk the talk. We don’t back it up. We’re out of control. There’s no discipline. It’s a mess right now.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz1jAvmGPXg



That part is dead on, but still.

[KnoxHarrington]

i laugh at this only cause, why the FUCK would peyton manning go there? He doesnt strike me as the type of guy who wants his teammates running their mouths and his coach being a douche. In fact, it seems like it would piss him off.

Remember how much he fuckin flipped on whats his face, that kicker. Mike Vanderjact i think

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[spoon]

Even with his down year, I don't think SD does it either.



So as far as regular seasons go, I constantly hear how amazing this year has been for Eli and it's his best reg season by far. So let's check out this down year in SD for Rivers factually to sporting media's wonder boy of late, Eli.

Rivers versus Eli respectively:

QB Rating - 11th @ 88.7 v 7th @ 92.9 (not a huge margin at all)

Completions - 4th v 5th (with 7 more passes attempted so virtually the same and tiny adv Rivers)

Comp % - 7th v 14th (big advantage for Rivers, but man did anyone know Brees completed 71.2% of his passes on the YEAR!?..WOW)

Yards - 6th v 4th (very close over 16 games)

Yards/Game - 6th v 5th (Rodgers sneaks back past him w/ only 15 games, but virtually the same)

TDs - 8th @ 27 v 7th @ 29 (yah, pretty damn fucking close for someone on his great year versus a "down year" for the other)

Ints - 20 ints v 16 (again, pretty fucking close, especially how many like to perceive Rivers as being just atrocious this year and Eli a back door mvp candidate! Yah, it's been said many times out here on the radio and even some national tv shows somewhat in jest, but not totally.

[spoon]

New story up with players rightfully defending Sanchez in public. I'm pretty sure it includes the first time all year that first ballot HOF Mangold made a block for the guy! Stay gold mangold.

“It is definitely really disheartening that some players are coming out and want their names protected and all that, and they’re talking bad about our team and organization,” Slauson said. “That isn’t how it’s supposed to be done. All I hope for them is that they stay anonymous because things won’t end well for them if that ever comes out. Bad mouthing the team and the organization, that could be grounds for losing their jobs. I’m not saying anything will be done, but it would be bad to know exactly who it was because I wouldn’t be able to look that guy in the eye the same way again.


Solid move by Slauson, he has earned my respect for that comment at this time. The personal shit stays private, keep that shit inside and work it out there. This shit is classless to me, but to be expected here. Flaky as one jet called it is pretty fucking dead over the last few years, especially now.

Center Nick Mangold defended Sanchez on Twitter and then during a radio interview, saying he “very much so, 100 percent” believes in Sanchez.

Recent Jet News (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Al2LPTNGK2eI1WddZHw7mto5nYcB?slug=ap-jumbledjets)

[hanso]

so sporano was hired by the jets to be the offensive cord (hahah :clap::thumbup::happy::drunk::tongue::laugh: sorry needed the laugh) and now they are hiring or at least thinking about hiring the miserable todd haley. reports are sporano will focus on the run and haley will focus on the pass as a kind of co coordinator, duo, super team thingy!

yeah that should work out great with no confusion or anyone stepping on anyone's toes?!

If this happens it would help the Cowboy rejects to go straight to them for a change.

[cougarjake13]

They kinda have to defend him even if they were fhe very guys who bad mouthed him

[hanso]

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Who drafted the guy? How bout some heat on that person?

[disneyspy]

If this happens it would help the Cowboy rejects to go straight to them for a change.

na they go straight to the bears

[Snoogans]

this was in a mailbag question to Bill Simmons today. I knew about the 316 yards thing and everyone making a big deal about tebow but this is REALLY fuckin weird:
A thousand years from now, will people build scenes of the 2010 NFL-Draft in front of their houses just like they do with the nativity play now? In the Pittsburgh game, they played in the stadium that's closest to heaven (Mile High). Tebow threw for 316 yards. Rothlisberger's interception came on 3rd and 16. Pittsburgh's time of possession was 31 minutes and 6 seconds. Tebow's average yards per completion was 31.6. Someone named John told Tebow to pull trigger on the final TD. And Demaryius Thomas, the target for Tebow's game winner, was born on Christmas.
— Matthias Lahn, Germany

i know it doesnt mean shit, but damn thats some fuckin odd coincidences

[Snoogans]

I know Simmons is a huge pompous douche, especially since he got his own site and now thinks he is also a hollywood producer. but this shit made me crack the fuck up:

SG: You know how ESPN tried to turn 2011 into The Year of the Quarterback? I wish we tried to turn 2012 into The Year of the Coach, if only so we could have created a 16-coach game show formatted somewhat like Chopped, with the contestants making impromptu coaching decisions instead of impromptu cooking challenges. Imagine Andy Reid, Marvin Lewis, Brad Childress and Norv Turner battling in the season finale of Botched.

Andy the Host: "Gentlemen, it's the second quarter of a playoff game, you're playing on the road and trailing by three, you're at midfield, the two-minute warning is coming up, and you only have one challenge remaining. We're going to ask you to make strategic decisions for the next eight plays of this sequence. Here's the first one: Your running back just ran very close to a first down on second and two, only it seems like the ref may have given you a bad spot. Again, you only have one challenge remaining. What do you do?"

Marvin: "I'm going to challenge that spot, Andy. Even if it's nearly impossible to get a spot reversed, and I could easily run for a first down on the next play, I'd rather lose my last challenge flag right now. This way I can just take it out of my pocket — I hate that thing, it's cumbersome."

Andy: "I'm not going to challenge the spot, Andy — I love third-and-short, that allows me to run a terrible play-action pass that will almost definitely result in a tipped pass at the line of scrimmage. I'd also rather blow that challenge later in the game, during a much bigger moment, when it will really crush my fans."

Norv: "Andy, I'm going to stare straight ahead, look as confused as possible, wait too long to react, and then only throw my challenge flag after the ball has already been snapped on the next play."

Brad: "I'm going to call timeout, Andy, and then, after the timeout ends, that's when I'm going to decide to challenge that spot. This way, I could potentially lose two timeouts on the same play if I'm wrong."

Host: "And our loser for that question is … Brad Childress. Brad, you're only a couple more ill-advised decisions away from being our Botched champion. Good luck."

[Crispy123]

saw this on my fb page today and actually lol'd:

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399465_10150483693686696_710131695_9511840_1257253 189_n.jpg

[sailor]

he looks like a thinner hippo.

[Snacks]

Im so happy Im not betting any of these games. After watching tv all week and now shitty espn and reading some things online Im really thinking that SF wins this week. All along (since the playoff teams were known) I thought NO goes to the SB now not so much. Either the media is doing a good job giving their reasons why SF can and will win or SF really might do it. Im starting to believe this and I have NO playing Balt in the SB in our contest on here.

Anyone else changing their minds or think SF might win today?

[epo]

I'm cheering for SF today, the same way I cheered for Atlanta last week. :innocent:

[cougarjake13]

I'm cheering for SF today, the same way I cheered for Atlanta last week. :innocent:


I just want good competitive games

[sailor]

Brees is a bum.

[razorboy]

If the Saints lose I'll never stop laughing.

[keithy_19]

If the Saints lose I'll never stop laughing.

Not even when you cry?

[hanso]

Brees is a bum.

Yep, that's why the Phins turned him away twice.

[razorboy]

That was a tremendous pick.

[jennysmurf]

My employers are at the 49ers game, so I'm actually watching a football game for once. On Superbowl Sunday, I watch the Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet. I have nothing to contribute here, but I like to throw things off-track.

[keithy_19]

My employers are at the 49ers game, so I'm actually watching a football game for once. On Superbowl Sunday, I watch the Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet. I have nothing to contribute here, but I like to throw things off-track.

Do you want to smoke weed and have a long discussion about the puppy bowl via a thread on .net?

[spoon]

this was in a mailbag question to Bill Simmons today. I knew about the 316 yards thing and everyone making a big deal about tebow but this is REALLY fuckin weird:
A thousand years from now, will people build scenes of the 2010 NFL-Draft in front of their houses just like they do with the nativity play now? In the Pittsburgh game, they played in the stadium that's closest to heaven (Mile High). Tebow threw for 316 yards. Rothlisberger's interception came on 3rd and 16. Pittsburgh's time of possession was 31 minutes and 6 seconds. Tebow's average yards per completion was 31.6. Someone named John told Tebow to pull trigger on the final TD. And Demaryius Thomas, the target for Tebow's game winner, was born on Christmas.
— Matthias Lahn, Germany

i know it doesnt mean shit, but damn thats some fuckin odd coincidences

what? you can do shit like that probably every fucking game..especially the mile high stadium (it's their home) and shit like 3rd and 16 or someone named John told Tebow to pull the trigger. So stupid. No wonder people are really sick of this guy, Germany and Christians. All fucking so idiotic and blind.

[spoon]

he looks like a thinner hippo.

well you can't make a fatter one live past 8 years

[Judge Smails]

this was in a mailbag question to Bill Simmons today. I knew about the 316 yards thing and everyone making a big deal about tebow but this is REALLY fuckin weird:
A thousand years from now, will people build scenes of the 2010 NFL-Draft in front of their houses just like they do with the nativity play now? In the Pittsburgh game, they played in the stadium that's closest to heaven (Mile High). Tebow threw for 316 yards. Rothlisberger's interception came on 3rd and 16. Pittsburgh's time of possession was 31 minutes and 6 seconds. Tebow's average yards per completion was 31.6. Someone named John told Tebow to pull trigger on the final TD. And Demaryius Thomas, the target for Tebow's game winner, was born on Christmas.
— Matthias Lahn, Germany

i know it doesnt mean shit, but damn thats some fuckin odd coincidences

Tebow had a secretary named Rothlesberger. Rothlesberger once dateraped a secretary named Tebow.

[keithy_19]

Tebow had a secretary named Rothlesberger. Rothlesberger once dateraped a secretary named Tebow.

In fairness, who hasn't Rothlesberger raped?

[spoon]

In fairness, who hasn't Rothlesberger raped?

you...even he won't have sex with you

[spoon]

wow the Saints keep giving SF huge turnovers

it's like they don't want to win




HOW isn't SF killing them right now?

[spoon]

wow, wtf was that by the SF kickoff team lining up and dancing like fools/fags

now I'm fully for the Saints to win this bc that was tough to fucking watch

[hanso]

wow the Saints keep giving SF huge turnovers

it's like they don't want to win




HOW isn't SF killing them right now?

Was thinking the other way. 4 turn overs at half NO only down 3. NO would be killing if not for TO.

[jennysmurf]

Do you want to smoke weed and have a long discussion about the puppy bowl via a thread on .net?

Yes, please.

[spoon]

Was thinking the other way. 4 turn overs at half NO only down 3. NO would be killing if not for TO.

well that's the point, SF has a shit load of HUGE turnovers and is still only up six...SIX points!

wow what a hit on Ginn jr.!

[keithy_19]

Yes, please.

:clap:
:wub:

[spoon]

wow rogers made a great play there

i voted for him this year too, easily his best

[hanso]

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C'mon everyone Tebow.

[spoon]

no thanks



and a fg for sf to win seems right doesn't it?





Smith vs. Rodgers for the SB ticket?! Draft day revenge battle!

[spoon]

wow nice play call there

[HBox]

WHAT...... A...... CALL.

[spoon]

and man this review gives the team a TON OF TIME to put a 2-pt play together too


hate this rule since they don't review plays that are ruled not a td (but close calls)

[HBox]

I'm surprised that was Alex Smith's longest career run. He's a pretty mobile QB.

[spoon]

wow that took too fucking long

the nfl is AWFUL with challenges and td reviews

it's like they go back to reel to reel for it

[epo]

That was a great call by the 49ers and a pathetic two-point attempt.

[HBox]

Considering the last play call and all the time they had...... that was a pretty shit call.

[spoon]

I'm surprised that was Alex Smith's longest career run. He's a pretty mobile QB.

I think it has a lot more to do with the old coach just being awful and not using the guy well at all. The team and qb look night and day compared to last year. And the SD press mentioned Singletary as a possible replacement for Norv! FUCK THAT! Perhaps Norv staying was a good thing in one way! SD loses no matter which way you look at it.

[OGC]

SF had all that time to plan their 2pt conversion and THAT is the best they could come up with. UGH

[spoon]

Considering the last play call and all the time they had...... that was a pretty shit call.

agreed

ugly, even gory call

[HBox]

This game is fucking awesome.

[spoon]

boom

sprained neck!

[OGC]

wow

[spoon]

now that's a 2pt play!

[HBox]

And THAT is a good 2 point play call.

[Snoogans]

what a fuckin game.

[HBox]

The only thing I'm rooting for right now is OT.

[KnoxHarrington]

This is not the best clock management I've ever seen.

[spoon]

so nobody caught Jimmy Graham do this at the end of that td?

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silly gus!

[HBox]

Watching this "hurry-up" offense is giving me awful Andy Reid flashbacks.

[spoon]

well that last play worked

perhaps time isn't an issue!

OT here we come!

[HBox]

AWESOME!

But BOO!

[OGC]

Holy Fuck

[Snoogans]

wow. Alex Smith just did that?

Holy shit what a game. That means every other game is gonna suck

[spoon]

wow, qbs that CAN throw are fun to watch!

even smith looks like fucking Brady compared to tebus

[KnoxHarrington]

Holy shit what a fucking game.

[spoon]

so the saints will STILL never have won a playoff game on the road!

[HBox]

I have so much respect for Alex Smith right now. He has been handled about as poorly as a young QB could possibly be handled for 7 years, he perseveres through it and now he's not an elite QB, but he's really damn good and he has no business being that good. Makes you wonder what would have happened if a competent organization had drafted him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

This game is proof a Buffalo Wild Wings control panel exists.

[spoon]

this game is really close being that the Saints have turned it over 5 times!

and yah, Smith just outperformed Brees overall (3 tds/0 picks vs. 4tds/2 picks)

[OGC]

why the fuck did they call time out, they deserve to lose

[epo]

Wow.

A great fourth quarter.

[spoon]

This game is proof a Buffalo Wild Wings control panel exists.
Stupid. Leave it to matt to gay it up.
why the fuck did they call time out, they deserve to lose

wow, a little harsh no? :wink:

[Snoogans]

I have so much respect for Alex Smith right now. He has been handled about as poorly as a young QB could possibly be handled for 7 years, he perseveres through it and now he's not an elite QB, but he's really damn good and he has no business being that good. Makes you wonder what would have happened if a competent organization had drafted him.

it also gives me a MASSIVE respect for Harbaugh for goin and winning with guys that other coaches failed with. it also makes me think maybe andrew luck isnt gonna be as good as he seemed without harbaugh around.


Goddamn, what a fuckin game. Alex fuckin Smith is a legit NFL QB

[spoon]

Wow.

A great fourth quarter.

happy?

who would you rather face in the end?

same question Giant fans?

[HBox]

this game is really close being that the Saints have turned it over 5 times!

and yah, Smith just outperformed Brees overall (3 tds/0 picks vs. 4tds/2 picks)

Yeah, I mean it was a great game but I can't leave it thinking that the 49ers are good when they just won a home playoff game by 4 points with 5 takeaways.

Fuck man, if the Giants somehow pull it out tomorrow....... FUCK!

[razorboy]

I am not ashamed to say I love Vernon Davis.

[Snoogans]

happy?

who would you rather face in the end?

same question Giant fans?

assuming the giants win id rather face SF. I know they just beat NO but i dont want anything to do with the superdome

[spoon]

I am not ashamed to say I love Vernon Davis.

you should

go to the box and feel shame! (http://youtu.be/n_w4MV_LwMw)

[spoon]

yah New Orleans is a monster at home compared to the road




nice throw #1 by Tebow with nobody even near him and 10 seconds to throw it

[spoon]

no rover OR end contain on tebow...perfect

way to go New England

[Tenbatsuzen]

but i dont want anything to do with the superdome

Things also said in September 2005.

[spoon]

and yah, that's the play they ALWAYS run on first almost the entire game pats...wtf?

[spoon]

there it is again...way to harrison it up on the ends New England

[spoon]

perfect

it's turnover day

[HBox]

I hope that is one of many turnovers tonight.

[Snoogans]

what a shock. i could see that comin a mile away. look at him load up to throw that. He looks like a fuckin pitcher.

I hope NE wins by 6000

[spoon]

yah but he does that every week and somehow nobody causes him to turn it over much

HOW?!

[Snoogans]

yah but he does that every week and somehow nobody causes him to turn it over much

HOW?!

you know what i think everytime i see him throw? Osi. Osi would have like 45 seconds to slap at that ball. I dont get why guys dont say fuckin hittin him and just grab for the ball.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Going back to Snacks' assertion that "this shit only happens in Philly", I forgot that a guy FUCKING SHOT HIMSELF in the parking lot of Foxborough earlier this year.

[razorboy]

Tebow's Satchel Paige wind up strikes again.

[Snoogans]

Going back to Snacks' assertion that "this shit only happens in Philly", I forgot that a guy FUCKING SHOT HIMSELF in the parking lot of Foxborough earlier this year.

in philly, he woulda shot 11 other people before himself

[HBox]

I can't believe I'm rooting for Brady and the Pats. And not just rooting for them. I want complete and utter destruction tonight. Screw everyone who has put Tebow on a pedestal for forcing me into this.

[Dell]

glad to know greg williams hasn't changed a thing...cost a lot of games when with the skins, now cost me a preseason bet on the Saints!

don't like that guy at all (man-to-man on Davis, geesh)

[HBox]

And you know what really sucks? With the Pats secondary you put any halfway decent QB on the Broncos and this whole game would be like the 4th quarter of the 49ers-Saints game.

[HBox]

glad to know greg williams hasn't changed a thing...cost a lot of games when with the skins, now cost me a preseason bet on the Saints!

don't like that guy at all (man-to-man on Davis, geesh)

Well he's apparently joining Jeff Fisher in St. Louis so no one will be betting on him anytime soon.

[Snoogans]

Tebow's Satchel Paige wind up strikes again.

Tebow, drops back to pass, looks, has time.....looks left, loads up to throw:
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[Snoogans]

Gronk

[epo]

This is going to be really ugly and fun in a sick way.

[Dell]

Well he's apparently joining Jeff Fisher in St. Louis so no one will be betting on him anytime soon.

for their sake, I hope it's with the Cardinals...hard to fuck up defensive strategies in baseball

[Snoogans]

Who is MHK, Kraft's wife?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Absolutely bullshit call. That ball moved because of the ground. There is no fucking uniformity in these calls!

The NFL really needs to take a review stance like the NHL. All reviews go to a central command with the SAME people reviewing it.

[spoon]

I can't believe I'm rooting for Brady and the Pats. And not just rooting for them. I want complete and utter destruction tonight. Screw everyone who has put Tebow on a pedestal for forcing me into this.

yah both the broncos and jets have done this to me and I will never forget it/forgive them!

[HBox]

Who is MHK, Kraft's wife?

Yeah. I don't get it. She was just his wife. Did she do anything for the team that I'm not aware of?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Who is MHK, Kraft's wife?

Yeah, Myra. Died from the big C.

[KnoxHarrington]

Come on, Belichik. Don't show a shred of humanity for the first time in your life. Keep running up the store. The record for the playoffs is 73-0. Go for that.

And at the end of the game, throw up the devil horns and scream "HAIL SATAN!"

[Snoogans]

Absolutely bullshit call. That ball moved because of the ground. There is no fucking uniformity in these calls!

The NFL really needs to take a review stance like the NHL. All reviews go to a central command with the SAME people reviewing it.

actually thats a good call. they changed the rule 2 years ago. the ball is allowed to move when you go to the ground as long as you keep your hands around it. If it moves and slips in your hands its not good, but if it moves and you keep your hands on it in control, its a good catch.

Ive actually seen a few times this year where they called it exactly the same. I have no problem with that call

[spoon]

Well he's apparently joining Jeff Fisher in St. Louis so no one will be betting on him anytime soon.

Fisher will have that team better in no time...not as quick as Harbaugh though.

[Dell]

that would have definitely been overturned in the Sugar Bowl...

fret not, the skies are about to part and the air will become thinner...six field goals are coming Denver's way

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yeah. I don't get it. She was just his wife.

It's fucking Bob Kraft, do you expect anything less? She did turn over a draft pick, though, because of past beating issues.

[Snoogans]

Yeah. I don't get it. She was just his wife. Did she do anything for the team that I'm not aware of?

Yeah, Myra. Died from the big C.

i knew she died, just didnt know if her middle name was H or if they were just honoring someone else or something

[HBox]

Fisher will have that team better in no time...not as quick as Harbaugh though.

Well Harbaugh took over a team with some talent. It's a fucking mess in St. Louis.

[spoon]

Tebow, drops back to pass, looks, has time.....looks left, loads up to throw:
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nah, tebow adds a HUGE gay angle to his "throwing motion"

[Snoogans]

nah, tebow adds a HUGE gay angle to his "throwing motion"

i know but i couldnt think of a lefty with a longer throwing motion. Maybe david wells?

[Tenbatsuzen]

actually thats a good call. they changed the rule 2 years ago. the ball is allowed to move when you go to the ground as long as you keep your hands around it. If it moves and slips in your hands its not good, but if it moves and you keep your hands on it in control, its a good catch.

Ive actually seen a few times this year where they called it exactly the same. I have no problem with that call

I still think the calls need to go to a central command though. The NHL has no issue with doing it.

[spoon]

Absolutely bullshit call. That ball moved because of the ground. There is no fucking uniformity in these calls!

The NFL really needs to take a review stance like the NHL. All reviews go to a central command with the SAME people reviewing it.

That was a td, and I wouldn't expect you or Simms to realize the guy had control and his hands under the ball the whole way. TD

[Snoogans]

I still think the calls need to go to a central command though. The NHL has no issue with doing it.

i think they should do it just like NCAA football. They have 3 guys in a booth who watch every single play. if a play is suspect, they buzz the ref to stop play while they continue to watch, then tell the ref what the right call is. From what i remember, thats pretty much same as hockey except the refs have to call up in hockey. the booth calls down in NCAA

the average review time for a play that gets reviewed in NCAA is 33 seconds. They have it so streamlined they review every single play. the refs dont get mad that someone overruled them, they are happier to just get the right call in the game. It works great. I dont get why the NFL doesnt do it.

An independant study showed that since NCAA went to this format, the game has gotten longer by an avg of 47 seconds a game.

[spoon]

Well Harbaugh took over a team with some talent. It's a fucking mess in St. Louis.

agreed, that's the reason the dig out will take longer (and sf is in the division as a good team now to contend with...Harbaugh had St. Louis of old).

[Snoogans]

agreed, that's the reason the dig out will take longer (and sf is in the division as a good team now to contend with...Harbaugh had St. Louis of old).

my question is, why the fuck would ANYONE choose to go live in St Louis over Miami. Just that decision alone would make me question every decision he makes

[HBox]

my question is, why the fuck would ANYONE choose to go live in St Louis over Miami. Just that decision alone would make me question every decision he makes

Fisher wanted nothing to do with Miami GM Jeff Ireland and their owner Stephen Ross refused to fire him.

[HBox]

Dammit. But that was an awesome tackle.

[spoon]

i know but i couldnt think of a lefty with a longer throwing motion. Maybe david wells?

this is more like it, righty but who cares (30 sec mark) yet this girl obviously can hit a target rainbow style

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[HBox]

this is more like it, righty but who cares (30 sec mark) yet this girl obviously can hit a target rainbow style

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I don't know. I think Tebow's passes float a bit more than that.

[spoon]

I don't know. I think Tebow's passes float a bit more than that.

abso lutely!

dong!

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[Snoogans]

wow that wind is BRUTAL

[HBox]

If you ruin this for me tonight Brady I will make you suffer.

[TripleSkeet]

Only the Hoodie could turn around and say "It's the 17th game of the season, I think we will use our tight end as a running back." and have it work. Unreal.

[KnoxHarrington]

Focus on the Family probably did not want to air their ad before Tebus delivering a pretty pathetic 3 and out.

[HBox]

He misses two wide open receivers. At least it was only on a third down deep in his own territory when they are already down two TDs and kicking into a ridiculous wind giving the insane offense on the other side a short field.

[spoon]

how is this bronco team and tebow anywhere NEAR the playoffs? this Pat d is awful and they haven't done jack yet, minus the brady pick giving the offense a 20 yard field.

the afc, especially the West should be ashamed! and most in the West were, seeing as every coach minus the Bronco's were or should have been fired! how Norv is still there is a mystery! (not really as it's a combo of stupidity and being cheap).

[KnoxHarrington]

He misses two wide open receivers. At least it was only on a third down deep in his own territory when they are already down two TDs and kicking into a ridiculous wind giving the insane offense on the other side a short field.

This is the other side of Tebow. People cum all over themselves talking about how great he is at the end of the game, but a real top-quality NFL quarterback steps up in a situation like that, in the 2nd quarter when you're trying to respond to the other team's score and keep the game from getting out of hand. Tebow can't do that.

[spoon]

oh my GOD people, the clock is about to read 3:16 for the second time soon!

seriously watch!

:innocent:

[spoon]

the 4th time if you count 13:16 ... even more if you count the time/play clock combo!

You can't make this shit up!

:devil2:

[HBox]

This is the other side of Tebow. People cum all over themselves talking about how great he is at the end of the game, but a real top-quality NFL quarterback steps up in a situation like that, in the 2nd quarter when you're trying to respond to the other team's score and keep the game from getting out of hand. Tebow can't do that.

And they weren't even hard reads. And even if he did read it does anyone have confidence he could have accurately thrown it to the guy sitting wide open just beyond the first down marker on the sideline?

[spoon]

And they weren't even hard reads. And even if he did read it does anyone have confidence he could have accurately thrown it to the guy sitting wide open just beyond the first down marker on the sideline?

Where's your faith!?

:innocent:

[HBox]

McGahee looks about 8 years younger tonight. About the only good thing on the Denver O right now.

[HBox]

Phil Simms just said this isn't about scoring, it's about taking time off the clock. In the second quarter. Down 14.

That might be a new stupidest thing Phil Simms has ever said.

[HBox]

Where's your faith!?

:innocent:

My faith is in Brady Quinn.

[KnoxHarrington]

Did that dude who just sacked Tebow do the Gator Chomp?

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[HBox]

Did that dude who just sacked Tebow do the Gator Chomp?

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Yeah, that was Gerard Warren. He also went to Florida.

[spoon]

nice

[HBox]

Tebow couldn't throw a pass like that if Jesus's life depended on it.

[spoon]

Phil Simms just said this isn't about scoring, it's about taking time off the clock. In the second quarter. Down 14.

That might be a new stupidest thing Phil Simms has ever said.

yah, I heard that too!

glad I'm not the only one taken aback by his idiocy

[spoon]

Tebow couldn't throw a pass like that if Jesus's life depended on it.

good thing Jesus can not only come back from the dead, he can be reborn!

[KnoxHarrington]

This game is leading me to embrace Our Dark Lord.

HAIL SATAN

[HBox]

I think Denver is scared of calling too many passes going into the wind.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Three dropped passes by the Broncos now.

[KnoxHarrington]

The Patriots have plenty of time to get yet another TD.

[Snoogans]

i know tebow sucks but damn, these guys drop everything

[HBox]

It's hilarious how he just can't throw an out! He just can't do it!

[spoon]

wow tebow sucks!


the weather Simms, that's why he couldn't throw it 10 yards right after Brady put one on the money almost 50 yards down field?


and nice summary on why that wasn't a penalty vs timeout

[spoon]

i know tebow sucks but damn, these guys drop everything

probably bc the balls come in soooo oddly, like off the foot of a kicker end to end versus a nice and tight spiral

[TripleSkeet]

Another record for Brady. Best QB in the league.

[HBox]

This is great. Just wonderful. Thank you Bill Belichick. This is the first and last time I will say that.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i know tebow sucks but damn, these guys drop everything

That's the catch-22. All the Tebow haters are gonna peg this loss on Tebow's shoulders, just like all the Tebow lovers peg wins solely on him.

Not even a semi-decent QB can make up for the completely unprepared Denver D. that is not Tebow's fault.

[spoon]

this game is a joke

wow



I LOVE IT!




can we say this loud too, tebow will be 8-6 in the regular season and 1-1 in the playoffs...can we stop saying all he does is win?

[KnoxHarrington]

God damn I fucking love this.

[HBox]

That's the catch-22. All the Tebow haters are gonna peg this loss on Tebow's shoulders, just like all the Tebow lovers peg wins solely on him.

Not even a semi-decent QB can make up for the completely unprepared Denver D. that is not Tebow's fault.

It's not all on him, the D is playing awful but at the same time the opposing D is historically awful. No excuse for not putting up more than 7 points that were basically handed to you.

That Denver has called so few pass plays against the worst passing D in the league says a lot about what they think. The only difference between Pitt's D and NE's D tonight is that the Pats are keeping one safety deep. And that's really all that's needed to shut down Tebow.