2011-12 NFL Season

[Tenbatsuzen]

Facts:

1) LT was asked to re-work his contract (not that he STEPPED UP to do it) as early as July 27th when Asomugha was still in play.

2) The Jets cut a ton of talent in expectation of Asomugha signing and were expected to talk with Sanchez to make the contract to work if Asomugha agreed. The Jets, with all their moves, had 10 million in cap space. (as reported by Shefter and posted in this thread)

3) Asomugha signs with the Eagles.

Once that happens, there is no need to re-work the big contracts. They still have that cap space, they bring back Brunell, etc. sign Plax, and sign role players.

[spoon]

Twitter link!

HAHahahaahahah!

He was right, but reported huh?

And it still doesn't say anything on how it came about, via LT or management. Good news is that 1 million will help so much. How long did you search for that and was it fun to read for the first time?

Oh and this ass tweets more than JustJon, so he pretty much throw shit at a wall all fucking day hoping to be heard and seen when one sticks. Even he is waiting on Sanchez's contract restructure.

TheJetsStream Manish Mehta
#Jets QB welcomes Burress RT @Mark_Sanchez Paperwork in hand??? Haha welcome to the squad RT @plaxico: East Coast here I come! #nyj

[hanso]

I don't think you want to praise the Jets at all, but I do think you get wrapped up in players at time and miss some things based on past potential. Please don't make ME defend Eli and his stats overall as Tom does in every football thread. PLEASE! :nono:

I heard that the NYG receivers have to read the defence on the line.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And it still doesn't say anything on how it came about, via LT or management. Good news is that 1 million will help so much. How long did you search for that and was it fun to read for the first time?



Wait for Spoon to read the follow up post and come up with more insults to make himself feel better.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Twitter link!

HAHahahaahahah!

He was right, but reported huh?

And it still doesn't say anything on how it came about, via LT or management. Good news is that 1 million will help so much. How long did you search for that and was it fun to read for the first time?



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2011/07/28/2011-07-28_jets_focus_on_nnamdi_asomugha_with_texans_out_o f_running_gang_green_could_land_f.html

From the NYDN on July 28th:

TAKE ONE FOR TEAM
The News has learned that the Jets have asked LaDainian Tomlinson to rework his contract and take a reduction in salary in the final year of his two-year deal. Tomlinson was scheduled to earn a $2.4 million base salary this season.

Three days after Mark Sanchez admitted that he was amenable to restructuring his contract to free up salary-cap space to sign free agents, the Jets have not reached out to Nick Mangold, D'Brickashaw Ferguson or Darrelle Revis to restructure their contracts.

[spoon]

Facts:....not fact, based on a tweet's "sources" and not confirmed at all. Not to mention LT basically stepped up regardless bc he can get that money still or more being just a 3rd down back. Sanchez has not stepped up.

1) LT was asked to re-work his contract (not that he STEPPED UP to do it) as early as July 27th when Asomugha was still in play. In play, not in play doesnt' matter at all. LT restructured, Sanchez didn't. It's reported NOW that he stepped up on all sports media (Fox sports, NFL and ESPN) that he "stepped up" for his shitty captain who makes false promises.

2) The Jets cut a ton of talent in expectation of Asomugha signing and were expected to talk with Sanchez to make the contract to work if Asomugha agreed. The Jets, with all their moves, had 10 million in cap space. (as reported by Shefter and posted in this thread) He never once mentioned NA, but re-sign Jets and his wrs in particular and other free agents was the toss in. The focus was on his wrs and they signed one for big money (overpaid Holmes) and still not a peep. Still waiting for him to back that claim up.

3) Asomugha signs with the Eagles.

Once that happens, there is no need to re-work the big contracts. They still have that cap space, they bring back Brunell, etc. sign Plax, and sign role players. Yes, no need at all to restructure anyone so it happened, bc LT offered it up.

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[Tenbatsuzen]

Awww, Spoon's butt hurt now, so he's trying to shout louder to make his side true. How cute!

[spoon]

Wait for Spoon to read the follow up post and come up with more insults to make himself feel better.

Yes matty, insults all OVER my posts. You really are in your own world aren't you. AHhhh, I feel so much better.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yes matty, insults all OVER my posts. You really are in your own world aren't you. AHhhh, I feel so much better.

You just proven wrong so you fucking get all dismissive of what's been reported instead of just accepting what's real and maybe, just maybe, I know what I'm talking about and not being a Jets fanboy as you like to say.

You want SO FUCKING BADLY to be right that Sanchez "lied" that he didn't re do his contract but you still haven't given a reason *WHY* Sanchez had to restructure WHEN THERE WAS NO REASON TO WITH ASOMUGHA OFF THE MARKET.

[spoon]

Awww, Spoon's butt hurt now, so he's trying to shout louder to make his side true. How cute!

No shouting, your boy followed up a tweet with an article, while everyone else reports something else isn't shouting, it's based on fact and red text to distinguish our points. How slow are you? Red text equals shouting now? You really are unreal and love to just make shit up. I guess I better pipe down bc the neighbors are gonna get pissed for typing in red so loud!

Bottom line, Sanchez did not restructure jack, LT did and it's reported everywhere that he stepped up to do it.


I love how the guy using huge font, bolded text and exclamation points is claiming someone else is "trying to shout". You're hilarious! Oh knowssssss! Spoon is getting LOUD! :lol:

[spoon]

You just proven wrong so you fucking get all dismissive of what's been reported instead of just accepting what's real and maybe, just maybe, I know what I'm talking about and not being a Jets fanboy as you like to say.

You want SO FUCKING BADLY to be right that Sanchez "lied" that he didn't re do his contract but you still haven't given a reason *WHY* Sanchez had to restructure WHEN THERE WAS NO REASON TO WITH ASOMUGHA OFF THE MARKET.


I did if you could read, bc this had little to do with NA, you play that angle up to make a bs argument. He made the statement first and foremost to re-sign players and spoke a ton on the main guys being (of course) his receivers. Once again, for those so slow and can't follow, the Jets paid over value (in my mind) and definitely millions of dollars to keep Holmes the number one target player to keep. Sanchez quiet and after that LT restructures. Read that slowly and just try your hardest. It had so little to do with any one free agent at the time, but your current players. You made that connection bc it helps your "false reality".

[Tenbatsuzen]

No shouting, your boy followed up a tweet with an article, while everyone else reports something else isn't shouting, it's based on fact and red text to distinguish our points. How slow are you? Red text equals shouting now? You really are unreal and love to just make shit up. I guess I better pipe down bc the neighbors are gonna get pissed for typing in red so loud!

Bottom line, Sanchez did not restructure jack, LT did and it's reported everywhere that he stepped up to do it.


I love how the guy using huge font, bolded text and exclamation points is claiming someone else is "trying to shout". You're hilarious! Oh knowssssss! Spoon is getting LOUD! :lol:

EVerywhere I've read said LT "took a pay cut", not that he "stepped up". Make no mistake: This was initiated by the Jets. Unless you can give me definitive text that said LT "stepped up", you're full of shit.

I'll take the word of a Jets beat writer for one of the biggest papers in NYC than I would someone from ESPN. Nowhere in Clayton's article said he "stepped up" anyway.

And you still haven't answered why Sanchez should have to restructure when there is no need to right now.

You are full of shit, you are making stuff up now, and you're trying to paint Sanchez as a liar when he had no reason to restructure.

[underdog]

Everyone who says "agree to disagree" in a serious fashion should be shot in the fucking face.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I did if you could read, bc this had little to do with NA, you play that angle up to make a bs argument. He made the statement first and foremost to re-sign players and spoke a ton on the main guys being (of course) his receivers. Once again, for those so slow and can't follow, the Jets paid over value (in my mind) and definitely millions of dollars to keep Holmes the number one target player to keep. Sanchez quiet and after that LT restructures. Read that slowly and just try your hardest. It had so little to do with any one free agent at the time, but your current players. You made that connection bc it helps your "false reality".

Sanchez also said in the press conference he'd throw left handed if it would help the team win. So if he's not the second coming of Ken Stabler, he's also a liar?

Do you think Sanchez would just walk into the Jets HR office and hand money back? The Jets have to ask him first and they never did. And there is no reason to. The Jets signed Santonio, they got another WR, and there was never a NEED to restructure his contract with the cap space the Jets had. And the Jets wanted to get more cap space which is why LT took a pay cut.

You want to know why LT took the paycut?

Because if the Jets flat out cut him loose, there's a glut of RBs on the market and LT had no guarantee of catching on with a team that gave him the best shot of winning the superbowl or making the money he could have made.

It's fucking Machiavellian, but that's what happened.

So stop acting like LT rode in on a white horse and slayed the evil Sanchez dragon and took a paycut for the good of the team.

[spoon]

EVerywhere I've read said LT "took a pay cut", not that he "stepped up". Make no mistake: This was initiated by the Jets. Unless you can give me definitive text that said LT "stepped up", you're full of shit.

I'll take the word of a Jets beat writer for one of the biggest papers in NYC than I would someone from ESPN. Nowhere in Clayton's article said he "stepped up" anyway.

And you still haven't answered why Sanchez should have to restructure when there is no need to right now.

You are full of shit, you are making stuff up now, and you're trying to paint Sanchez as a liar when he had no reason to restructure.

First, what is the definition of is please.

Next, read above you're not going get me to type it out again.

Finally, yes, no more move possible, no expensive moves made. Good point, Jets are set everywhere. Burress is hands down an upgrade at wr bc he's taller, Sanchez didn't back off his claim and let others restructure for him and surely the Jet's D was at least as good as the Ravens a few years back. Oh there's sooooo much more that's good for this current convo!

I guess for Udog I'll disagree to agree....better?
:innocent:

[hanso]

Yesterdays press conferance Brandon Marshall stated he had BPD. Or big pussy diva.

[spoon]

Sanchez also said in the press conference he'd throw left handed if it would help the team win. So if he's not the second coming of Ken Stabler, he's also a liar? :lol: Yes, same thing. That's so funny I'll just laugh at it and I'm using blue bc I hope it helps you realize I'm typing in a calm fashion.

Do you think Sanchez would just walk into the Jets HR office and hand money back? The Jets have to ask him first and they never did. And there is no reason to. The Jets signed Santonio, they got another WR, and there was never a NEED to restructure his contract with the cap space the Jets had. And the Jets wanted to get more cap space which is why LT took a pay cut. So the Jet's didn't need to restructure the contract almost 10x that of the other, but the other they need more cap space from so LT took the cut? Got it! :wacko:

You want to know why LT took the paycut? Yes, Sanchez is captain take back.

Because if the Jets flat out cut him loose, there's a glut of RBs on the market and LT had no guarantee of catching on with a team that gave him the best shot of winning the superbowl or making the money he could have made. I hope they cut him now and whatever team he goes to win the SB and pays him 2 mill. "no guarantee of catching on with a team that gave him the BEST shot of winning the super bowl or making the money he could have made"? WTF does that even mean? Is that more Jet's are the bestest and he can't do better bs wrapped in he can't get 2 mill somewhere? That's funny. A 34 year old criminal 2 years out of the league can score 3 mill most guaranteed but he can't get 2 mill or close? Come on. He almost ran for 1k in a timeshare of sorts (later of course) with a 4.2 yards per carry. Whole other argument, next time.

It's fucking Machiavellian, but that's what happened.

So stop acting like LT rode in on a white horse and slayed the evil Sanchez dragon and took a paycut for the good of the team. He took the paycut for the detriment of the team and Sanchez flew in on a Griffin to just talk loud like most things Jet's, got it.

.

[spoon]

Yesterdays press conferance Brandon Marshall stated he had BPD. Or big pussy diva.

The guy does scream bipolar though. Burress would be an upgrade in his place. I saw him doing sit ups near his prison toilet so I know.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jets signed Cromartie per Jenny Vrentas and Mehta.


But maybe I should be careful, because I read it on twitter. And one of the people who reported it is a woman! What do they know about football, even if they write about it for the biggest paper in NJ...

[Snacks]

Not that LT is poor and hasn't made any money in the NFL, but the guy making 2 million restructures to 1 million vs Sanchez or Revis stepping up. More so Sanchez since he put it out there and soaked up the team guy press like a sponge to water.

I told you he threw the other guys names out when the media asked him directly. he did that to basically say ask them too or ask them instead meaning the team should and not ask him! that was my original take.

[spoon]

Jets signed Cromartie per Jenny Vrentas and Mehta.


But maybe I should be careful, because I read it on twitter. And one of the people who reported it is a woman! What do they know about football, even if they write about it for the biggest paper in NJ...

Yes, bc sex has played into this argument soooo often right?! You literally make arguments with yourself bc that's the only person in that fight whatsoever. Hilarity everywhere when tenbats rambles off on ridiculous tangents.

What you should do is thank LT for stepping up like a true leader and taking that cut for the team leading to this signing. Sanchez get bailed out like a bank!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yes, bc sex has played into this argument soooo often right?! You literally make arguments with yourself bc that's the only person in that fight whatsoever. Hilarity everywhere when tenbats rambles off on ridiculous tangents.

What you should do is thank LT for stepping up like a true leader and taking that cut for the team leading to this signing. Sanchez get bailed out like a bank!

Why are you still acting like LT volunteered the paycut? My mind is completely blown by this. Seriously.

[spoon]

I told you he threw the other guys names out when the media asked him directly. he did that to basically say ask them too or ask them instead meaning the team should and not ask him! that was my original take.

It really seems to be what happened. Oh and LT made the choice to lighten the load and be a 3rd down back WAY before that tweet. He stepped up when other hid behind fat coaches.

LT Jet Leader! (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=6474890)

As one experienced .net poster would say, "good on you" LT! True leadership is shown through actions, not words on paper. Well, unless it's a lesser contract on that paper!

Sorry, had to yell that one. ^^
:lol:

[spoon]

Why are you still acting like LT volunteered the paycut? My mind is completely blown by this. Seriously.

Bc he did take the cut regardless of either of our claims, he did not HAVE to.

And the main reason is to stress that SANCHEZ failed to live up to his bs claim. It'll be fun watching him captain team. Seems like a great leader.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Bc he did take the cut regardless of either of our claims, he did not HAVE to.

And the main reason is to stress that SANCHEZ failed to live up to his bs claim. It'll be fun watching him captain team. Seems like a great leader.

Once again:

Please show us where Sanchez had to make a restructuring of his contract to sign someone and failed to do it.

[spoon]

Once again:

Please show us where Sanchez had to make a restructuring of his contract to sign someone and failed to do it.

He doesn't now, LT has stepped up and now I'm sure others will if needed. Open mouth, others act. Leadership, got it.

"us" LOVE THAT!

[Earlshog]

Everyone who says "agree to disagree" in a serious fashion should be shot in the fucking face.

Were gonna have to agre to disagree on that :wink:

[Snoogans]

if you are the giants, esp knowing smith is still banged up, do you call Randy Moss now?

I would, and the convo would go something like this:

hey randy, tell you what. Ill give you 1 year 2.5 mill guaranteed. If you catch 7 TDs, it goes up to 5 mill, at 10 it goes to 7.5 and at 13 receiving TDs it goes up to 10 mill


Randy Moss: Where do I sign?

[Tenbatsuzen]

if you are the giants, esp knowing smith is still banged up, do you call Randy Moss now?

I would, and the convo would go something like this:

hey randy, tell you what. Ill give you 1 year 2.5 mill guaranteed. If you catch 7 TDs, it goes up to 5 mill, at 10 it goes to 7.5 and at 13 receiving TDs it goes up to 10 mill


Randy Moss: Where do I sign?

Randy retired this morning.

[Earlshog]

if you are the giants, esp knowing smith is still banged up, do you call Randy Moss now?

I would, and the convo would go something like this:

hey randy, tell you what. Ill give you 1 year 2.5 mill guaranteed. If you catch 7 TDs, it goes up to 5 mill, at 10 it goes to 7.5 and at 13 receiving TDs it goes up to 10 mill


Randy Moss: Where do I sign?

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/31033294

Randy Moss announces retirement

[Snoogans]

Randy retired this morning.

yea, thats why i asked it. Cause now he isnt talkin to anyone

Basically they are sayin he retired cause he didnt get any offers that were worth it. Thats why I pose, do you call him with my offer, which is certainly worth it, and see if he changes his mind?

[Earlshog]

Bradshaw agreed to a 4 year deal...

[Earlshog]

Philly wins again. I'm getting sick of "mystery team" in last minute negotiations.

Upside: The space leaves room the sign Cro, Edwards, and Moss. So we'll see.

Mike Tenenbaum was responsible for getting Howie Roseman's foot in the in Philly. Now as the GM he ganks Asomugha from him. Lifes funny...

[spoon]

Now it seems 4 players have restructured their contracts, not one named Sanchez. Leadership at it's finest! (http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/08/jets_running_back_ladainian_to.html)

As they attacked their list, they needed some help from the players already on their roster to make the finances work with the return of the salary cap. Among them, running back LaDainian Tomlinson, a future Hall of Famer, agreed to take a pay cut.
"The thinking was, I really like this team, and I felt like we had a great opportunity to win," Tomlinson said. "That was the No. 1 thing in my mind, to be somewhere where you have a chance to win a Super Bowl. I've said that all along, now I guess I have to prove the words that I had always said. I want the opportunity to win a championship."
ESPN reported that Tomlinson agreed to reduce his $2.625 million salary down to $1.1 million this year.
Per the post-lockout rules, players who rework their contracts are not permitted to practice until the start of the new league year on Thursday. At this morning's walk-through, linebackers Bart Scott and Calvin Pace also sat out. Neither has known injuries, so it's a good indication both reworked their contracts as well.
Scott was due $4.9 million in base salary this year. Pace was due $3.855 million. Both had higher cap hits.
Back-up quarterback Mark Brunell, who was released last week and re-signed Sunday at a lower salary, also sat out.

Even their backup seems committed to Sanchez's claim he put out for others, not really himself. Good news is the team does seem to have some team first guys, just not their "captain".

[spoon]

Bradshaw contract pretty solid overall, now hold that ball versus an extra 4 yards and fumble.

oh and... General manager Mike Tannenbaum would not comment specifically on reports that say he's shopping around Cotchery to free up cap space.
On the possibility of adding Randy Moss (who reportedly will retire) or another wideout threat, he said: "we're good at receiver now."


It's not twitter, but this has been reported as recently as right now. I guess they still don't need space after at least 2, probably 4 restructured! All Sanchez has to do is put that money on hold while vets reduce their salaries by 60%!

[Justice4all]

maybe more pub, but the jets have never gotten more respect. they are clowns and everyone knows they are clowns

Clowns or not...they're making the playoffs all the way to the AFC Championship games and the Giants are going anywhere after their 16th game.

[Justice4all]

EVerywhere I've read said LT "took a pay cut", not that he "stepped up". Make no mistake: This was initiated by the Jets. Unless you can give me definitive text that said LT "stepped up", you're full of shit.

I'll take the word of a Jets beat writer for one of the biggest papers in NYC than I would someone from ESPN. Nowhere in Clayton's article said he "stepped up" anyway.

And you still haven't answered why Sanchez should have to restructure when there is no need to right now.

You are full of shit, you are making stuff up now, and you're trying to paint Sanchez as a liar when he had no reason to restructure.

Yes, bc sex has played into this argument soooo often right?! You literally make arguments with yourself bc that's the only person in that fight whatsoever. Hilarity everywhere when tenbats rambles off on ridiculous tangents.

What you should do is thank LT for stepping up like a true leader and taking that cut for the team leading to this signing. Sanchez get bailed out like a bank!
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[spoon]

Clowns or not...they're making the playoffs all the way to the AFC Championship games and the Giants are going anywhere after their 16th game.

:wacko:

and please don't post gay show soundbites in an NFL thread

leave it to Justice to gay this up

it's like your superpower

[Justice4all]

:wacko:

and please don't post gay show soundbites in an NFL thread

leave it to Justice to gay this up

it's like your superpower

right................

[spoon]

As for Burress, for some reason I think of this vid game character every time I see him in an interview. Oh and this song/game rules. Come on, a rasta frog with a beard! You can't beat that period.

He can shoota cap, shoota cap like thisssss ah!

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[hanso]

JT to the Phins X3 WWHHEEEEE!!!


Need to dig out my 99 shirt once again..

[Snacks]

JT to the Phins X3 WWHHEEEEE!!!


Need to dig out my 99 shirt once again..

I read about that early. The funny thing is he left went to Washington and did shit, came back had a better then expected year with Miami. Parcells fucks him again he leaves and goes to the jets and has an ok year but not great. Now hes back with Miami and isnt expected to do much but I expect him to have a great year. I love this guy but hate that he went to the jets last year.

[cougarjake13]

JT to the Phins X3 WWHHEEEEE!!!


Need to dig out my 99 shirt once again..

christ


hes as bad as rickey henderson

[Snoogans]

Clowns or not...they're making the playoffs all the way to the AFC Championship games and the Giants are going anywhere after their 16th game.

yea and that for 2 years means they stole the town? Do you even read what you are responding to or do you just find sentences and take them outta context?

[Snoogans]

looks like the jets are gonna resign Braylon Edwards: (http://deadspin.com/5826977/braylon-edwards-has-the-kind-of-resume-no-free-agent-wide-receiver-would-want)

Sunday, Edwards was allegedly at the South Bar in Birmingham. Reportedly two people in his entourage were arrested after roughing up some employees around two o'clock in the morning.

Around that same time, Edwards tweeted, "Damn. Get ya knuckles ready" and "Don't fight if. You don't know how."

We're told the group of friends Edwards was with got into an argument with an employee at the nighttime hot spot that eventually spilled into the kitchen. There one worker was sliced with a knife requiring 14 stitches. Another was attacked with a fork.

[spoon]

:lol:

perhaps he can get a "believe in yourself" tat like Rex

[Snoogans]

apparently Mr Edwards isnt as innocent as first thought (http://deadspin.com/5827404/braylon-edwards-may-have-started-the-nightclub-brawl-he-allegedly-wasnt-involved-in)

The whole thing began when Braylon and his cousins got heated with a group of men—our source says "thugs"—from Detroit. Bouncers asked the thugs to leave, and they did, but Braylon was still peeved, because the thugs had showed him up. "We basically saved Braylon's life by talking the thugs out of brawling with his crew," the source says.

Then, Braylon "decided to rush into the kitchen and attack the bus boy by throwing punches and throwing him to the ground." But Braylon and his entourage—according to the Observer and Eccentric, they were Braylon's cousins, Tre and Edmund Wright—were soon surrounded by bouncers. They responded by stabbing bar staff. (Both men have been charged with one count of felonious assault).

We're told bouncers held those two down until police arrived, but other elements of the entourage slipped away through the club's back door, and evaded interaction with the police.

wow

[spoon]

apparently Mr Edwards isnt as innocent as first thought (http://deadspin.com/5827404/braylon-edwards-may-have-started-the-nightclub-brawl-he-allegedly-wasnt-involved-in)



wow

If he had this much involvement in this, he won't be playing this year, or at least shouldn't. I go back to the DUI that the Jet's backed him and made his sit one whole series as how Rex deals with assholes. He simply placates them and allows them to exist. THAT is why assholes around the league want to play there mainly. Sure he's been winning and his tattoo shows the confidence he has in himself loud and clear! But to me it's his ability to look the other way bc he too is a loud mouthed fool and let's his players get away with murder.

Would many other teams dealt with that situation as they did? Heck, even the Cro blurt on BB and the Pats? You saw how BB dealt with his player (Welker) when he took a jab in a press conf in a much less caustic and comedic way. I've never gone so quick from hating one org to rooting for them over another in the conf I never had given a shit about in the past one way or the other.

[cougarjake13]

If he had this much involvement in this, he won't be playing this year, or at least shouldn't. I go back to the DUI that the Jet's backed him and made his sit one whole series as how Rex deals with assholes. He simply placates them and allows them to exist. THAT is why assholes around the league want to play there mainly. Sure he's been winning and his tattoo shows the confidence he has in himself loud and clear! But to me it's his ability to look the other way bc he too is a loud mouthed fool and let's his players get away with murder.

Would many other teams dealt with that situation as they did? Heck, even the Cro blurt on BB and the Pats? You saw how BB dealt with his player (Welker) when he took a jab in a press conf in a much less caustic and comedic way. I've never gone so quick from hating one org to rooting for them over another in the conf I never had given a shit about in the past one way or the other.



so stupid

all it shows is money doesnt hide your problems or ur true nature

[Tenbatsuzen]

Braylon is a Jet? When did this happen? he wasn't at camp today. Is someone trying to make an implication about a free agent and trying to connect him to his FORMER team? Is that what is happening?

[cougarjake13]

Braylon is a Jet? When did this happen? he wasn't at camp today. Is someone trying to make an implication about a free agent and trying to connect him to his FORMER team? Is that what is happening?

just saw on sportscenter he's meeting with the niners

[spoon]

just saw on sportscenter he's meeting with the niners

guy needs to be out of football period

complete ass

[cougarjake13]

guy needs to be out of football period

complete ass

hey may do that all on his own

[Tenbatsuzen]

I was at Jets camp today. It was funny. Water was free, but if you wanted a bottle of soda, it was 4 bucks.

[Snoogans]

Braylon is a Jet? When did this happen? he wasn't at camp today. Is someone trying to make an implication about a free agent and trying to connect him to his FORMER team? Is that what is happening?

actually,. mr word twister, it was a fuckin joke. I was sayin looks like he is gonna sign with the jets BECAUSE he got in trouble

see, the jets, they have a history of not caring about that stuff. unless i missed something from someone else, no one actually said he is a jet

[Tenbatsuzen]

actually,. mr word twister, it was a fuckin joke. I was sayin looks like he is gonna sign with the jets BECAUSE he got in trouble

see, the jets, they have a history of not caring about that stuff. unless i missed something from someone else, no one actually said he is a jet

wasn't referring to you

[Snoogans]

wasn't referring to you

gotcha, then i musta just missed whoever said it

[TripleSkeet]

looks like the jets are gonna resign Braylon Edwards: (http://deadspin.com/5826977/braylon-edwards-has-the-kind-of-resume-no-free-agent-wide-receiver-would-want)


LMAO Reminds me of 95 when I was bouncing at D and B in Philly. Got into a brawl with Bobby Taylor and a bunch of the Eagles. You would think 5 NFL players would be like an army in a fight. They got fucking destroyed. Seems like guys still think an NFL jersey makes them indestructible.

[hanso]

guy needs to be out of football period

complete ass

Or go to the Fins & join the asylum. Anyone want Ricky?

[spoon]

If he had this much involvement in this, he won't be playing this year, or at least shouldn't. I go back to the DUI that the Jet's backed him and made him sit one whole series is how Rex deals with assholes. He simply placates them and allows them to exist. THAT is why assholes around the league want to play there mainly. Sure he's been winning and his tattoo shows the confidence he has in himself loud and clear! But to me it's his ability to look the other way bc he too is a loud mouthed fool and let's his players get away with murder.

Would many other teams dealt with that situation as they did? Heck, even the Cro blurt on BB and the Pats? You saw how BB dealt with his player (Welker) when he took a jab in a press conf in a much less caustic and comedic way. I've never gone so quick from hating one org to rooting for them over another in the conf I never had given a shit about in the past one way or the other.


Braylon is a Jet? When did this happen? he wasn't at camp today. Is someone trying to make an implication about a free agent and trying to connect him to his FORMER team? Is that what is happening?

actually,. mr word twister, it was a fuckin joke. I was sayin looks like he is gonna sign with the jets BECAUSE he got in trouble

see, the jets, they have a history of not caring about that stuff. unless i missed something from someone else, no one actually said he is a jet

wasn't referring to you

gotcha, then i musta just missed whoever said it

No no, he is a word twister AGAIN, bc I assume he's referring to me in normal idiotic fashion only Tenbats can muster. Every single word I wrote stands and not once did anyone claim he's currently a Jet. In fact, Matty is the only person who ever wrote as much up to that point. TRYING to connect him to his former team!? Ha! No Matt, I CONNECTED his current issue directly and added to what Snoogans was eluding to about the Jet's picking up high risk/reward players bc character isn't held in high regard there. You really are a trip and a baby with your team like no other.

At least Snacks says he's being a homer on some topics with Miami and you just laugh it off. You really believe this fog of shit premise you put out there for your team, and it's pathetic. I get it, Braylon has no ties to the last team he played for and was picked up for scraps bc of his HUGE issues. He little problems with the Jets bc his coach pretty much ignored them and basically laughed at his DUI. If he was on the Chargers I'd HATE it, if still on the Jets you'd push for him to be enshrined beside Namath in Canton.

[Snacks]

No no, he is a word twister AGAIN, bc I assume he's referring to me in normal idiotic fashion only Tenbats can muster. Every single word I wrote stands and not once did anyone claim he's currently a Jet. In fact, Matty is the only person who ever wrote as much up to that point. TRYING to connect him to his former team!? Ha! No Matt, I CONNECTED his current issue directly and added to what Snoogans was eluding to about the Jet's picking up high risk/reward players bc character isn't held in high regard there. You really are a trip and a baby with your team like no other.

At least Snacks says he's being a homer on some topics with Miami and you just laugh it off. You really believe this fog of shit premise you put out there for your team, and it's pathetic. I get it, Braylon has no ties to the last team he played for and was picked up for scraps bc of his HUGE issues. He little problems with the Jets bc his coach pretty much ignored them and basically laughed at his DUI. If he was on the Chargers I'd HATE it, if still on the Jets you'd push for him to be enshrined beside Namath in Canton.

How did I get brought into this? Arent we all a little homerish when it comes to our fav team?

Please stop mentioning that Namath is in the HoF. One of the things I love about Carton is he is a huge douchey jets fan but even he admits that Namath has no business in the HoF and that the Jets SB was the biggest fix in NFL history and that the Jets didnt win the game on the up and up.

[spoon]

How did I get brought into this? Arent we all a little homerish when it comes to our fav team?

Please stop mentioning that Namath is in the HoF. One of the things I love about Carton is he is a huge douchey jets fan but even he admits that Namath has no business in the HoF and that the Jets SB was the biggest fix in NFL history and that the Jets didnt win the game on the up and up.

Not me! I'm starting to LOATHE my team! Turner=awful, AJsmith=douche, stadium=garbage...however, unis=SWEET!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I find it hysterical that someone's paranoid indignation can created a two paragraph missive over a few sentences.

[Earlshog]

In a meeting with media at training camp, WR Jericho Cotchery said he's been informed he'll be released if 37-year-old Derrick Mason passes his physical, the Sports Xchange reports. "That's what happens in this business," Cotchery said Thursday.

[Snoogans]

footballs dead

apparently NFL got HGH testing in the new CBA. FUUUUUUUUCK

[Tenbatsuzen]

In a meeting with media at training camp, WR Jericho Cotchery said he's been informed he'll be released if 37-year-old Derrick Mason passes his physical, the Sports Xchange reports. "That's what happens in this business," Cotchery said Thursday.

I really question this move. This could possibly be the most brain-dead move the Jets made since cutting Woodhead for David Clowney last year.

[cougarjake13]

I really question this move. This could possibly be the most brain-dead move the Jets made since cutting Woodhead for David Clowney last year.

nothing will top that move

[Snacks]

Braylon Edwards signs a 1 year $3.5 million deal with the 49ers!

[keithy_19]

LMAO Reminds me of 95 when I was bouncing at D and B in Philly. Got into a brawl with Bobby Taylor and a bunch of the Eagles. You would think 5 NFL players would be like an army in a fight. They got fucking destroyed. Seems like guys still think an NFL jersey makes them indestructible.

Well...they were tougher when they beat me up...:unsure::glurps:

[Tenbatsuzen]

nothing will top that move

It's actually totally bizarre what's going on here. Cotchery is 29 but coming off back surgery. He only had 433 yards last year but was a good, solid option.

Mason, although he is cheap, is 37 years old.

[spoon]

I find it hysterical that someone's paranoid indignation can created a two paragraph missive over a few sentences.

Did you "glean" that all by your self, or did you ask your wife what to type? Skipped the parts "I assume" and "not once did ANYONE claim he's currently a Jet" for your diversion from being wrong once again?

Bottom line is I have fun ripping your garbage apart thread to thread, post by post. It really isn't hard and for you those quick two paragraphs would take time I guess. Most people can type a quick post in a matter of seconds, but I guess it takes longer for you. Thanks for the heads up buddy. "Good on you" for changing the subject bc you were wrong once again too. "Good on you".

Tenbat's defense mechanism after years of long posts and douchey tactics is that he's not REALLY arguing once he loses, his ultimate goal is to take you from 15 second posts to 30 to GET YOU! Oh his "missives" are so complex, he tries to get responses to idiocacy on a message board! How ever do you do it!? Hysterical is any interaction with you on this board. I'm sure this 40 second post is a victory in your sorry world, so enjoy and know I was smiling the whole time. Got any Sunny D?

[Tenbatsuzen]

There you go again.

[spoon]

There you go again.


Oh don't you worry, it'll happen every time...bc I enjoy it.

Not to mention I called your response almost word for word. You new approach fails just like your old one. Wrong is simply wrong, at least now you are embracing it in a backdoor way. Guess that's your other specialty.

Either that or you think this is twitter.

[hanso]

There you go again.

http://randomgifs.com/images/reagan.gif

[spoon]

There you go again.

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[Justice4all]

footballs dead

apparently NFL got HGH testing in the new CBA. FUUUUUUUUCK

Yea....because testing for drugs/illeagle substances is the downfall of all major sports right???

[Snoogans]

Yea....because testing for drugs/illeagle substances is the downfall of all major sports right???

dude, stop it. you are fuckin clueless if you dont think HGH and roids is why the NFL is so athletic while being that size, and also why these guys can put themselves through that.

[spoon]

Anyone here the details on this new qb system being made by ESPN? I like the 0-100 start, but it seems it'll be much more heavily influenced by the legs then in the past. Makes sense up to a certain level, but seems like it'll go too far and is tailor made for Vick's return. I'd have to see the full rundown which I'll go find now if it's out there.

[Snacks]

ESPN keeps reporting Braylon Edwards signed with the 49ers for $3.5 million.

But some Twitter "reporter" says the deal is only for $1 million.

Who should be believe ESPN or Twitter?

I know Tenbats is hoping the Twitter guy is right because it will prove all his twitter reports are accurate!

Braylon Edwards' one-year contract with the 49ers is for just $1 million with no guarantees.
The deal was previously reported as a $3.5 million contract, but Edwards will only earn that if he catches 90 balls and goes to the Pro Bowl. In other words, it's not happening. If he has an average year, he'll make around $2 million. It's a reminder of just how far Edwards' stock has fallen. The Niners didn't overpay for Edwards' name and fantasy owners shouldn't either. Aug 5, 11:58 AM
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter

[hanso]

PTI said it was $1 million.

[Tenbatsuzen]

ESPN keeps reporting Braylon Edwards signed with the 49ers for $3.5 million.

But some Twitter "reporter" says the deal is only for $1 million.

Who should be believe ESPN or Twitter?

I know Tenbats is hoping the Twitter guy is right because it will prove all his twitter reports are accurate!

Jason La Canfora is an analyst for the NFL network, you dolt.

[Snacks]

Are you some kind of brain damaged fool? Wait, I already know that answer.

Jason La Canfora is a fucking analyst for the NFL network, you dolt.

dolt nice adult word you fucking loser!

im not the one who follows sports idiots on twitter and takes what their twitter account says as gospel.

[Tenbatsuzen]

dolt nice adult word you fucking loser!

im not the one who follows sports idiots on twitter and takes what their twitter account says as gospel.

So what exactly is the difference than someone like Schefter or La Canfora going on twitter and reporting something or saying it on Sportscenter?

[Snacks]

So what exactly is the difference than someone like Schefter or La Canfora going on twitter and reporting something or saying it on Sportscenter?

I would think that something reported on espn or in a newspaper/magazine, news org. or other reputable reportings has used some sort of fact checker by a producer or someone else. twitter there is no fact checking and who knows if its real or not?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I would think that something reported on espn or in a newspaper/magazine, news org. or other reputable reportings has used some sort of fact checker by a producer or someone else. twitter there is no fact checking and who knows if its real or not?

1) Twitter accounts for NEWS SOURCES are usually verified, which is a fact checking process by Twitter admins to confirm identities.. Schefter and La Canfora are both verified.

2) Do you honestly think Schefter or La Canfora, who is an actual employee of the league because he works for NFL Network, would just go on twitter and make up shit? The reason why people follow them on twitter is because they are well respected journalists, not dirt shirt writers you'd see on the Bleacher Report or something.

3) A lot of times, a tweet from a beat writer has a short tease with facts and then a link to the article that goes into more detail.

[spoon]

Floyd’s presence creates a good problem for San Diego, who now has a surplus of receivers that appear capable of contributing at the NFL level. Part of that can be attributed to injuries last year, which made it possible for Seyi Ajirotutu, Kelley Washington and Richard Goodman to get game experience with the Chargers. Now they’re part of an abundance of receivers competing for roster spots behind Jackson, Floyd and Patrick Crayton.

Nice resigning by SD, now if only they could find a real coach. As I say every year, if they ever win with Norv, a good coach would have done so with ease.

Add to these receivers Gates and this core is really something. I think Brown is easily better than Davis (who wouldn't be at this pt/complete bust), and Crayton/Ajirotutu filled in well with all the injuries last year. Goodman is more a special teamer and Washington as well. Still, Rivers can make lesser players look good, but the team should be very good this year granted the RBs can hold their own (Mathews stay healthy, not his norm) and the D stay strong continue to grow.

[PapaBear]

Nice resigning by SD, now if only they could find a real coach. As I say every year, if they ever win with Norv, a good coach would have done so with ease.

Add to these receivers Gates and this core is really something. I think Brown is easily better than Davis (who wouldn't be at this pt/complete bust), and Crayton/Ajirotutu filled in well with all the injuries last year. Goodman is more a special teamer and Washington as well. Still, Rivers can make lesser players look good, but the team should be very good this year granted the RBs can hold their own (Mathews stay healthy, not his norm) and the D stay strong continue to grow.
I've never been a SD fan, but I still gotta hope Washington keeps his job. He's a local kid, who has bounced around a lot since he entered the NFL. I also like him, because he still supports his home in two ways. 1: his Summer football camp, and 2: the strippers just over the border in West Virginia.

[spoon]

I've never been a SD fan, but I still gotta hope Washington keeps his job. He's a local kid, who has bounced around a lot since he entered the NFL. I also like him, because he still supports his home in two ways. 1: his Summer football camp, and 2: the strippers just over the border in West Virginia.

Ha! pt 2 makes me root for him now too

[cougarjake13]

sad to see boss go to the rayduhs


guess beckum's our starter now

[TripleSkeet]

I would think that something reported on espn or in a newspaper/magazine, news org. or other reputable reportings has used some sort of fact checker by a producer or someone else. twitter there is no fact checking and who knows if its real or not?

Dude wake up. If Adam Shefter reports it on Twitter, its just as credible as if he reports it on ESPN.

[TripleSkeet]

dude, stop it. you are fuckin clueless if you dont think HGH and roids is why the NFL is so athletic while being that size, and also why these guys can put themselves through that.

Especially considering they have yet to find one dangerous side effect from HGH.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Totally serious question:

This is the last year of Reebok making NFL jerseys, and rumors are rampant that when Nike takes over next year there will be some tweaks (not full redesigns, but tweaks) to jerseys.

With that information, would you buy an authentic jersey or wait?

[cougarjake13]

Totally serious question:

This is the last year of Reebok making NFL jerseys, and rumors are rampant that when Nike takes over next year there will be some tweaks (not full redesigns, but tweaks) to jerseys.

With that information, would you buy an authentic jersey or wait?

i think im done either way


in the last few years ive bought a shockey, kevin boss, tuck, dayne, and plax


all cept for tuck r gone

[cougarjake13]

Totally serious question:

This is the last year of Reebok making NFL jerseys, and rumors are rampant that when Nike takes over next year there will be some tweaks (not full redesigns, but tweaks) to jerseys.

wouldnt the teams have any say in the design s?

[Tenbatsuzen]

wouldnt the teams have any say in the design s?

There's been conflicting information. I lean towards the team having a final say, but being convinced by the League and Nike that making some tweaks would drive up sales.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i think im done either way


in the last few years ive bought a shockey, kevin boss, tuck, dayne, and plax


all cept for tuck r gone

someone call snacks' mom, because that's a fucking tragedy

[underdog]

Totally serious question:

This is the last year of Reebok making NFL jerseys, and rumors are rampant that when Nike takes over next year there will be some tweaks (not full redesigns, but tweaks) to jerseys.

With that information, would you buy an authentic jersey or wait?

I'm not 12, so I don't really have any need for an authentic jersey.

[cougarjake13]

someone call snacks' mom, because that's a fucking tragedy

he was a good back in college
first round pick

thought it was safe


plus it was him or kerry collins and i didnt think collins would be around much and he wound up not being

[Tenbatsuzen]

he was a good back in college
first round pick

thought it was safe


plus it was him or kerry collins and i didnt think collins would be around much and he wound up not being

I was walking through a sports memorabilia place and saw a Rueben Droughns authentic jersey. It wasn't memorabilia, it was an actual authentic jersey for sale. Seriously.

Interesting post note: Droughns is now the head coach of the most successful American Football club in Serbia.

I was going to get a Nick Mangold, but the 20% off coupon I had expired so I gotta wait until they run a new deal.

[underdog]

Do you guys wear all these jerseys you buy?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Do you guys wear all these jerseys you buy?

So are you trying to go for the Mojo Pin Honorary Hipster Douche title? Or the Ron Bennington Parrot title? I'm confused.

Yes, people wear jerseys. I have a rather large jersey collection.

People wear Affliction shirts. I don't like affliction shirts. I don't judge people who wear affliction shirts.

So what exactly is wrong with wearing a jersey?

[cougarjake13]

I was walking through a sports memorabilia place and saw a Rueben Droughns authentic jersey. It wasn't memorabilia, it was an actual authentic jersey for sale. Seriously.

Interesting post note: Droughns is now the head coach of the most successful American Football club in Serbia.

I was going to get a Nick Mangold, but the 20% off coupon I had expired so I gotta wait until they run a new deal.

are you talking of a droughns giants jersey ?


damn i didnt think theyd even waste the time making taht

[Tenbatsuzen]

are you talking of a droughns giants jersey ?


damn i didnt think theyd even waste the time making taht

yes

what made it worse was it was a Giants Authentic Droughns in South Jersey. It's no wonder they went out of business.

[cougarjake13]

Do you guys wear all these jerseys you buy?

all ?? no


i wore the shockey for a few years up til they traded him

been wearing the tuck the last few


and i only wear them when i go to the giants bar i go to when i go to watch their games

[Tenbatsuzen]

all ?? no


i wore the shockey for a few years up til they traded him

been wearing the tuck the last few


and i only wear them when i go to the giants bar i go to when i go to watch their games

Out of all my jerseys, I only wear the football ones on game days or if I go to a team event, like training camp. In fact, the primary jersey I like to wear, it was the first time I had worn it since the AFC championship game.

[underdog]

So are you trying to go for the Mojo Pin Honorary Hipster Douche title? Or the Ron Bennington Parrot title? I'm confused.

Yes, people wear jerseys. I have a rather large jersey collection.

People wear Affliction shirts. I don't like affliction shirts. I don't judge people who wear affliction shirts.

So what exactly is wrong with wearing a jersey?

I'm just curious. I couldn't imagine wearing a sports jersey without actually playing for a team. If I were a hipster, I'd be wearing old school basketball jerseys all the time.

Where do you wear them?

And you should definitely judge anyone who wears Affliction shirts.

[underdog]

all ?? no


i wore the shockey for a few years up til they traded him

been wearing the tuck the last few


and i only wear them when i go to the giants bar i go to when i go to watch their games

Do you dress up like a chef when you go to a restaurant?

[Snacks]

Do you dress up like a chef when you go to a restaurant?

although I disagree with you on wearing jerseys a little (going to a sporting event or playing a pick up game or going to a bbq jersey wearing is fine) I got to say that might be your funniest post ever!

[Kevin]

Do you dress up like a chef when you go to a restaurant?


I like to dress up as Gordon Ramsey and go into the kitchen and start yelling at everyone.

[Kevin]

Shaun Ellis to the Pats (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6841262/shaun-ellis-new-york-jets-sign-new-england-patriots)

Eh probably does not have much left but he is worth a low priced shot

[Dan 'Hampton]

Wearing jerseys around in everyday life is def a ny/nj thing.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wearing jerseys around in everyday life is def a ny/nj thing.

Stop. I've seen it in Boston, Philly, and Phoenix.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm just curious. I couldn't imagine wearing a sports jersey without actually playing for a team. If I were a hipster, I'd be wearing old school basketball jerseys all the time.

Where do you wear them?

And you should definitely judge anyone who wears Affliction shirts.

I'd usually wear jerseys if I'm going to a game, or going to an event like training camp, or I'm getting together with friends to watch football. In other words, I wear jerseys a majority of the time for team and sport related things.

I'd also wear them during the summer when it's really hot because the mesh of the jersey with a wifebeater or a sleeveless T underneath is very cooling.

[TripleSkeet]

People wear jerseys all over. Not just football but hockey, basketball and baseball too. It's a multi million dollar business. I never got why people had such a problem with others wearing them. They're just shirts. I see people wearing regular clothes that look ten times worse every day.

[underdog]

Let's go back to the Affliction shirts, then. People wearing them should be judged and shunned. Same as people who wear anything Ed Hardy or anything else by Christian Audigier.

Or Tap Out clothing.

[Snoogans]

i have a question for all the jersey hating people. So is someone a fag for wearing a t shirt with a logo on it? Cause for all intents and purposes, its the same fuckin thing. You are just tryin to show support for the team and a player you like.

Its not cause we think we are somehow gonna get in the game.

For the record, most of my jersey wearing is at an event or if i dont have anything to do and just need to throw on a shirt. But some of them things are fuckin nice. Soccer jerseys, especially. I dont see why its a big deal if i feel like wearing it to the game

[Dan 'Hampton]

Stop. I've seen it in Boston, Philly, and Phoenix.
Bullshit Phoenix doesn't support their teams.

[Snacks]

Talking about jerseys. Has anyone seen some NFL teams have baseball jerseys for their teams. I have always liked the look of a baseball jersey better so its nice to be able to buy your fav team in either a baseball or football style jersey!

[Dan 'Hampton]

Dont do it dude. That sounds embarrassing.

[underdog]

i have a question for all the jersey hating people. So is someone a fag for wearing a t shirt with a logo on it? Cause for all intents and purposes, its the same fuckin thing. You are just tryin to show support for the team and a player you like.

Its not cause we think we are somehow gonna get in the game.

For the record, most of my jersey wearing is at an event or if i dont have anything to do and just need to throw on a shirt. But some of them things are fuckin nice. Soccer jerseys, especially. I dont see why its a big deal if i feel like wearing it to the game

It's not the same thing as wearing something with the logo on it. When you wear a jersey, you look like you're playing dress up. It's like bringing a glove to the game.

[Snoogans]

It's not the same thing as wearing something with the logo on it. When you wear a jersey, you look like you're playing dress up. It's like bringing a glove to the game.

what if you are wearing the jersey to play football?

[underdog]

what if you are wearing the jersey to play football?

I guess that's fine.

I really don't care what anyone wears, unless it's Ed Hardy.

[Snacks]

I guess that's fine.

I really don't care what anyone wears, unless it's Ed Hardy.

why does Ed Hardy bother you so much?

[Snoogans]

why does Ed Hardy bother you so much?

cause he is a faggot, ed hardy i mean

[hanso]

http://i.imgur.com/0rNlI.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Bullshit Phoenix doesn't support their teams.

It was Mexicans wearing Chivas kits, but still

[Tenbatsuzen]

Talking about jerseys. Has anyone seen some NFL teams have baseball jerseys for their teams. I have always liked the look of a baseball jersey better so its nice to be able to buy your fav team in either a baseball or football style jersey!

Someone actually as a project redesigned Football jerseys as Soccer jerseys. Some were fucking atrocious, but some were really nice.

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/4d49895a4bd7c80671140000/green-bay-packers.jpg

[brettmojo]

i have a question for all the jersey hating people. So is someone a fag for wearing a t shirt with a logo on it? Cause for all intents and purposes, its the same fuckin thing. You are just tryin to show support for the team and a player you like.

Its not cause we think we are somehow gonna get in the game.

For the record, most of my jersey wearing is at an event or if i dont have anything to do and just need to throw on a shirt. But some of them things are fuckin nice. Soccer jerseys, especially. I dont see why its a big deal if i feel like wearing it to the game
You're not gonna' get anywhere fighting the Ronnie B. parrots.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You're not gonna' get anywhere fighting the Ronnie B. parrots.

You know, in those Miller Lite commercials where the dude is a wimp for wanting a beer with less taste? Wearing football jerseys!

Not to mention every ad you see someone grilling at a tailgate OR watching a game at home, someone is wearing a jersey.

It's not unusual behavior.

[Snacks]

Someone actually as a project redesigned Football jerseys as Soccer jerseys. Some were fucking atrocious, but some were really nice.

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/4d49895a4bd7c80671140000/green-bay-packers.jpg

I do find it funny that soccer is still the only jersey that has advertising on it. I think its just a matter of time before NFL, MLB and the NBA allow their advertisers to have their logos on jerseys!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I do find it funny that soccer is still the only jersey that has advertising on it. I think its just a matter of time before NFL, MLB and the NBA allow their advertisers to have their logos on jerseys!

I think it's a matter of time with TV technology that logos will be superimposed on the field.

Personally, I would NOT wear a jersey with a company's name on it. The MLS team I follow just did a deal with BIMBO bakeries and I will absolutely NOT wear a jersey with that logo. I wear team apparel, but not a jersey. I'm not a walking billboard. I mean, you want me to pay money to wear another company's logo? Not happening.

When I bought my car, the same thing happened - the car had no logo for the dealership on it and it was part of my agreement that the car is not branded with the dealership unless they knocked another 1000 bucks off the price.

I think it's different in NASCAR because the sponsor is SO tied in with team identity, and it also has to do with the sponsor being "cool" or not.

[underdog]

why does Ed Hardy bother you so much?

Because it's terrible clothing that douchebags wear. I had never heard of that Affliction stuff until Tenbats brought it up, but it's the same thing.

You know, in those Miller Lite commercials where the dude is a wimp for wanting a beer with less taste? Wearing football jerseys!

Not to mention every ad you see someone grilling at a tailgate OR watching a game at home, someone is wearing a jersey.

It's not unusual behavior.

I don't think it's unusual, I just think it's retarded. Wearing it to a game, I get, I guess. But I just can't see dropping that type of cash, especially on a NFL jersey, for a player that won't be on the team in 3 years.

And using a shitty beer commercial as your basis for normal is not a good argument.

[Snoogans]

Because it's terrible clothing that douchebags wear. I had never heard of that Affliction stuff until Tenbats brought it up, but it's the same thing.



I don't think it's unusual, I just think it's retarded. Wearing it to a game, I get, I guess. But I just can't see dropping that type of cash, especially on a NFL jersey, for a player that won't be on the team in 3 years.

And using a shitty beer commercial as your basis for normal is not a good argument.

i dont buy authentic ones. All the ones i have were 50 or under. most were like in 10 dollar clearance racks.

[underdog]

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/temp-2010-09-09/JpsCAzfkfffazlIGhrJupBgsvEImICaeszobpiAwhxAicbhJlf eBcybqfqjD/Hoopster1.jpg.scaled500.jpg

[Snoogans]

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/temp-2010-09-09/JpsCAzfkfffazlIGhrJupBgsvEImICaeszobpiAwhxAicbhJlf eBcybqfqjD/Hoopster1.jpg.scaled500.jpg

what self esteem and standards that woman has

[sailor]

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/temp-2010-09-09/JpsCAzfkfffazlIGhrJupBgsvEImICaeszobpiAwhxAicbhJlf eBcybqfqjD/Hoopster1.jpg.scaled500.jpg

shocked that's not pbr.

[Snacks]

i dont buy authentic ones. All the ones i have were 50 or under. most were like in 10 dollar clearance racks.

thats the only way I will buy a jersey, fake or clearance. I refuse to pay $100-$200 for a jersey.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't think it's unusual, I just think it's retarded. Wearing it to a game, I get, I guess. But I just can't see dropping that type of cash, especially on a NFL jersey, for a player that won't be on the team in 3 years.

A majority of the authentic stitched jerseys I have are of retired players who retired on the team. Namath, Gastineau, Chrebet, Richter, Messier. I have a lot of chinese knockoffs of current players (Mangold, Revis) but the Mangold one is too small, so it kinda turned me off to getting knockoffs.

I wouldn't pay full price for an authentic, but the NFL store has a ton of deals that go on, so if one came up for 20 or 25 percent off I'd feel better.

[Tenbatsuzen]

shocked that's not pbr.

Dos Equis, for the least interesting man in the world.

[Snacks]

A majority of the authentic stitched jerseys I have are of retired players who retired on the team. Namath, Gastineau, Chrebet, Richter, Messier. I have a lot of chinese knockoffs of current players (Mangold, Revis) but the Mangold one is too small, so it kinda turned me off to getting knockoffs.

I wouldn't pay full price for an authentic, but the NFL store has a ton of deals that go on, so if one came up for 20 or 25 percent off I'd feel better.

you know you make it easy for me sometimes! :smoke:

If the jets had an all time fav player poll who would win? Im guessing and would hope it would be Chrebet. He is 1 player that no one seems to hate even though he was a jet.

[Tenbatsuzen]

you know you make it easy for me sometimes! :smoke:

If the jets had an all time fav player poll who would win? Im guessing and would hope it would be Chrebet. He is 1 player that no one seems to hate even though he was a jet.

I think Namath and Chrebet would run neck and neck between older fans (Namath) and younger fans (Chrebet).

I don't think I'd be able to rank them properly, but a list of the 20 most popular jets would probably go Namath, Chrebet, Al Toon, Mark Gastineau, Joe Klecko, Abdul Salaam, Dennis Byrd, Testaverde, Curtis Martin, Nick Mangold, Sanchez, Revis, Pennington, Freeman McNeil, Wesley Walker, Maynard... probably a few others. But that's "popular" players, not BEST players. There's a difference.

[underdog]

That is an incredibly shitty list of players.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That is an incredibly shitty list of players.

Two current HOFers, one lock, two, maybe three possibles.

Jets haven't been known to be a quality organization until about 15 years ago. Basically Parcells and then Woody Johnson started changing the direction and climate of the club.

[Snacks]

I think Namath and Chrebet would run neck and neck between older fans (Namath) and younger fans (Chrebet).

I don't think I'd be able to rank them properly, but a list of the 20 most popular jets would probably go Namath, Chrebet, Al Toon, Mark Gastineau, Joe Klecko, Abdul Salaam, Dennis Byrd, Testaverde, Curtis Martin, Nick Mangold, Sanchez, Revis, Pennington, Freeman McNeil, Wesley Walker, Maynard... probably a few others. But that's "popular" players, not BEST players. There's a difference.

Al Toon was the 1st Jets player I remember that for a few years owned the dolphins. He was 1 of if not the only jets i hated but respected during my childhood. I have never liked any jets until Chrebet! He was a great story of a guy who didnt have the size or speed but worked hard enough and had a pretty good career. Hes not a hof but he should be the all time fan fav imho! Im surprised they dont hire him now to be the face of the org? Hes local and loved.

[Snacks]

That is an incredibly shitty list of players.

I agree but I asked for favs not best but then again this list might also be their best because they were terrible for so many years!

[keithy_19]

Two current HOFers, one lock, two, maybe three possibles.


Sanchez isn't a lock you silly goose.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I agree but I asked for favs not best but then again this list might also be their best because they were terrible for so many years!

Testaverde and Byrd are nowhere near the "best" but they are popular. Notice that I left Keyshawn off the list. Put up some really good numbers, but you NEVER see his Jersey.

[King Imp]

Are the Giants doing anything this offseason? The friggin' Eagles are pulling in people left and right, yet the Giants seem to do nothing but cut people. We get rid of 3 OL starters, Osi hates being here, we get rid of our TE and now we lose Prince Amukamara to a broken foot that needs surgery.

What the fuck is Jerry Reese doing?

[CountryBob]

Are the Giants doing anything this offseason? The friggin' Eagles are pulling in people left and right, yet the Giants seem to do nothing but cut people. We get rid of 3 OL starters, Osi hates being here, we get rid of our TE and now we lose Prince Amukamara to a broken foot that needs surgery.

What the fuck is Jerry Reese doing?

Keep it up - my Skins might have a chance to win a game this year

[Earlshog]

Keep it up - my Skins might have a chance to win a game this year

looking bad for the G-men right now but lets not get crazy :tongue:

[Gutter]

Are the Giants doing anything this offseason? The friggin' Eagles are pulling in people left and right, yet the Giants seem to do nothing but cut people. We get rid of 3 OL starters, Osi hates being here, we get rid of our TE and now we lose Prince Amukamara to a broken foot that needs surgery.

What the fuck is Jerry Reese doing?

I think they started the free agency waaayy over the new salary cap. but yea, its not looking too good at all. Injuries aplenty already, and zero attempt to sign anyone valuable free agent wise. Lots of Giants are on the market right now, and there really isn't anyone left to pick up.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think they started the free agency waaayy over the new salary cap. but yea, its not looking too good at all. Injuries aplenty already, and zero attempt to sign anyone valuable free agent wise. Lots of Giants are on the market right now, and there really isn't anyone left to pick up.

And as the injuries from other teams pile up during camp, all those giants will be snapped up. Seubert and O'Hara are relatively healthy, right?

[cougarjake13]

And as the injuries from other teams pile up during camp, all those giants will be snapped up. Seubert and O'Hara are relatively healthy, right?

ohara had injury issues last yr, dont think hes close to healthy

[cougarjake13]

Someone actually as a project redesigned Football jerseys as Soccer jerseys. Some were fucking atrocious, but some were really nice.

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/4d49895a4bd7c80671140000/green-bay-packers.jpg

what site is that ??

[cougarjake13]

Do you dress up like a chef when you go to a restaurant?

why yes.... yes i do



i also wear a cop uniform when i go to the police station



and on rare occasions i wear doctor scrub when i go there

[Snoogans]

And as the injuries from other teams pile up during camp, all those giants will be snapped up. Seubert and O'Hara are relatively healthy, right?

ohara isnt relatively healthy. he is coming off a pretty major knee injury.

Seubert is always hurt with something

[spoon]

Especially considering they have yet to find one dangerous side effect from HGH.

Other than the fact you promote cancer growth, bone growth/density issue (acromegaly), diabetes, pituitary issues and so many other goodies?

Outside of those?

[spoon]

I'm not 12, so I don't really have any need for an authentic jersey.

No no, this is FOOTBALL talk!

Next topic, a new story involving someone's penis from Deadspin for ole' Matty boy!

[spoon]

Because it's terrible clothing that douchebags wear. I had never heard of that Affliction stuff until Tenbats brought it up, but it's the same thing.



I don't think it's unusual, I just think it's retarded. Wearing it to a game, I get, I guess. But I just can't see dropping that type of cash, especially on a NFL jersey, for a player that won't be on the team in 3 years.

And using a shitty beer commercial as your basis for normal is not a good argument.

I have no issue with jerseys other than people wearing them at completely stupid times. Yet you just KNEW a fashion based jersey question would come up via a Tenbat's post so I just couldn't pass it up.

I HATE when you go to a Giants/Eagles game and you have those look at me fans wearing THEIR favs not even playing! In fact, I'm not even a fan of any specific player's jersey for the very reason CJ is fed up buying them, players simply move too much and too often these days. One team players are very rare in this era of sports, even on big money teams. That and I'm just not big having even my favorite players name on my back. I've always been a fan of the team, not one player.

[spoon]

Are the Giants doing anything this offseason? The friggin' Eagles are pulling in people left and right, yet the Giants seem to do nothing but cut people. We get rid of 3 OL starters, Osi hates being here, we get rid of our TE and now we lose Prince Amukamara to a broken foot that needs surgery.

What the fuck is Jerry Reese doing?

Got a pretty good deal on Bradshaw at least. I hope he can hold his money better than the ball or even he'll be broke in no time!

[TripleSkeet]

Other than the fact you promote cancer growth, bone growth/density issue (acromegaly), diabetes, pituitary issues and so many other goodies?

Outside of those?

Only when misused and abused. Many doctors have been fighting to legalize it so it can be prescribed to people over the age of 40 to improve quality of life. Its the closest thing to slowing down the aging process man has ever found.

There was an in depth story about this in Sports Illustrated a few years back. If I wasnt so lazy Id actually try and find a link.

[spoon]

As for most popular Jets, you have to defer to the more recent top players and icons. I'd bet Revis and Namath would each easily be top 3, with guys like Sanchez and hell even Rex as a coach if that was allowed for in the poll. I'm not ripping their fans on this one either, as people have short memories and rarely see past recent triumphs or good players. Look at that fucking Jeter poll atrocity for example.

Or hell, even in SD where the fans just voted Phillip Rivers the best QB of all-time in SD by a good margin. Fouts is still ranked high, but he and others are just forgotten for a guy, who I LOVE mind you, hasn't done anything overall just yet. I realize not one SD QB won a Super Bowl unless you count Brees in NO (which I don't of course), but Stan Humphries helped get them there and Fouts got close many times with just TERRIBLE defenses around him. He'd have to win games 48-45 just to get there with that paper bag defense during most of his tenure.

[spoon]

Only when misused and abused. Many doctors have been fighting to legalize it so it can be prescribed to people over the age of 40 to improve quality of life. Its the closest thing to slowing down the aging process man has ever found.

There was an in depth story about this in Sports Illustrated a few years back. If I wasnt so lazy Id actually try and find a link.

Like any drug there are useful applications TS, but the problem is many physicians don't see the risk/benefit ratio being strong enough to widely use this product in other areas without more testing. In fact, quality of life couldn't be more vague? For what type of patient over 40 are we speaking? Also, if a doc DOES deem it necessary, they can go "off-label" if need be and it's warranted in that case.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

ugh looks like a long season for my Giants.... less depth at O Line..no receiving tight end , less depth at WR .. no name linebackers , a disgruntled Osi and now to add insult to injury.. The Prince broke his foot on the way to Waldorf Astoria...

its gonna be a long season, thank god for Fantasy Football and the soon to be birth of my daughter in October

[TripleSkeet]

Like any drug there are useful applications TS, but the problem is many physicians don't see the risk/benefit ratio being strong enough to widely use this product in other areas without more testing. In fact, quality of life couldn't be more vague? For what type of patient over 40 are we speaking? Also, if a doc DOES deem it necessary, they can go "off-label" if need be and it's warranted in that case.

Its been awhile since I read the article, but from what I remembered it basically helps slow up the aging process drastically as your body stops producing it after the age of 25. The whole point of it was doctors and scientists that were pissed off because they couldnt find anything wrong with it, yet were being halted from prescribing it to people because people were worried about athletes using it.

They made a good point. Why should a drug that could help millions of people be shelved because we are worried about athletes cheating? In the grand scheme of things why does it fucking matter if they cheat or not? Try to catch them if you can, if you cant, who gives a fuck? Its just a game. Thats basically what these doctors they interviewed were saying.

Shit, you actually had me start looking for the article but I cant find it anywhere.

[spoon]

ugh looks like a long season for my Giants.... less depth at O Line..no receiving tight end , less depth at WR .. no name linebackers , a disgruntled Osi and now to add insult to injury.. The Prince broke his foot on the way to Waldorf Astoria...

its gonna be a long season, thank god for Fantasy Football and the soon to be birth of my daughter in October

Get the fuck out of here! You're gonna be a dad! Congrats Hip!

I'm already planning my visit in 18 years to casa hippo...:devil2:

[spoon]

Its been awhile since I read the article, but from what I remembered it basically helps slow up the aging process drastically as your body stops producing it after the age of 25. The whole point of it was doctors and scientists that were pissed off because they couldnt find anything wrong with it, yet were being halted from prescribing it to people because people were worried about athletes using it.

They made a good point. Why should a drug that could help millions of people be shelved because we are worried about athletes cheating? In the grand scheme of things why does it fucking matter if they cheat or not? Try to catch them if you can, if you cant, who gives a fuck? Its just a game. Thats basically what these doctors they interviewed were saying.

Shit, you actually had me start looking for the article but I cant find it anywhere.

Yah well that's not the reasons so they can say that all they want it's not true. It's indicated for other things regardless, so I'm not sure they have any validity to their point.

[spoon]

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/10/20254000/ngbbs4ae90e77783d4.jpg

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Get the fuck out of here! You're gonna be a dad! Congrats Hip!

I'm already planning my visit in 18 years to casa hippo...:devil2:


Oct 21 is the due date.. yep.. 1 of the reasons I havent been around.. plus this site is blocked at my job

[Earlshog]

Oct 21 is the due date.. yep.. 1 of the reasons I havent been around.. plus this site is blocked at my job

congrats buddy. I had my first in March, enjoy it!

G-men.... I think its bout panic time!

[Gutter]

congrats buddy. I had my first in March, enjoy it!

G-men.... I think its bout panic time!

ohhhh jeezus now what? or is it just all the stuff that's been going on? tell me what you know damnit!!!

[disneyspy]

Oct 21 is the due date.. yep.. 1 of the reasons I havent been around.. plus this site is blocked at my job

congrats hippo!! are you having a boy or a a a a pound of bacon?

[disneyspy]

congrats buddy. I had my first in March, enjoy it!

G-men.... I think its bout panic time!

congrats man,no wonder this place is dead,ya'll are just a bunch of fucking machines

[Snoogans]

congrats buddy. I had my first in March, enjoy it!

G-men.... I think its bout panic time!

i thought panic time until hippo said how they suck and they are gonna struggle. Now im celebrating the future Giants SB victory

the giants WILL win the SB this year. You can laugh, but the last time I said that was 2007.


18-0.....1 more to go superbowowowowowowow

[King Hippos Bandaid]

congrats hippo!! are you having a boy or a a a a pound of bacon?

girl...

[disneyspy]

girl...

ya that was in bad taste on my part,really happy for you

[Gutter]

i thought panic time until hippo said how they suck and they are gonna struggle. Now im celebrating the future Giants SB victory

the giants WILL win the SB this year. You can laugh, but the last time I said that was 2007.


18-0.....1 more to go superbowowowowowowow

They have been one of the few teams I heard about where the QB was working with his receivers.

[Earlshog]

ya that was in bad taste on my part,really happy for you

Bacon is never in bad taste!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Bacon is never in bad taste!

congrats to you..

there would never be abortions if babies were made out of bacon

[spoon]

congrats to you..

there would never be abortions if babies were made out of bacon

Well, unless they were chinese bacon girls.

[Snacks]

Oct 21 is the due date.. yep.. 1 of the reasons I havent been around.. plus this site is blocked at my job

congrats!

[Snacks]

i thought panic time until hippo said how they suck and they are gonna struggle. Now im celebrating the future Giants SB victory

the giants WILL win the SB this year. You can laugh, but the last time I said that was 2007.


18-0.....1 more to go superbowowowowowowow

The giants are in trouble. The only good thing they did was keep Bradshaw at a cheep price. I think the Giants at best go 8-8 and thats only because Wash is in their division. Talk about another team Wash has no QB, RB and their WRs are Moss and then nothing!

I know miami isnt going anywhere either so I might as well stop you there. I think 8-8 for them too would be lucky 7-9 would be more likely. I would be excited if they made it to 9-7 but that wont happen til they get a new coach!

[spoon]

The giants are in trouble. The only good thing they did was keep Bradshaw at a cheep price. I think the Giants at best go 8-8 and thats only because Wash is in their division. Talk about another team Wash has no QB, RB and their WRs are Moss and then nothing!

I know miami isnt going anywhere either so I might as well stop you there. I think 8-8 for them too would be lucky 7-9 would be more likely. I would be excited if they made it to 9-7 but that wont happen til they get a new coach!

Being honest though, the Giants lost more games in weird ways than most last year. To me they aren't as bad as everyone likes to think, especially since they simply couldn't hold on to the ball. That can be fixed if coached right, and I'm sure it's a focus right now for many key players here. I'm not convinced they'll be out of the picture as much as some here think. In fact, I think they'll have a great shot at a playoff spot, with much of their hopes pending on simply holding on to the ball.

[Snoogans]

Being honest though, the Giants lost more games in weird ways than most last year. To me they aren't as bad as everyone likes to think, especially since they simply couldn't hold on to the ball. That can be fixed if coached right, and I'm sure it's a focus right now for many key players here. I'm not convinced they'll be out of the picture as much as some here think. In fact, I think they'll have a great shot at a playoff spot, with much of their hopes pending on simply holding on to the ball.

i agree. i think the lockout helps them alot too. for the most part, every single player who will be in a key role for the giants already knows the offense, the coaching staff, the timing with the QB. If they could learn to hold onto a fuckin football, i see no reason why they couldnt win more than the 10 games they won last year.

will they, who knows. its the fuckin giants. they will prob start 7-1 and finish 9-7

[Snacks]

How ridiculous is the situation out there in Denver? Tebow has looked like shit from everything that has been written and Orton has looked miles ahead of him. Yet the fans want Tebow and so does the local media.

I never understood why Chicago didnt keep Orton as the starter after his rookie year when he went like 10 or 11 and 5? He has looked great as a starter in Denver both seasons. It wasnt his fault the team sucked last year it was the defense. They should stick with a guy who have proven to be a solid nfl qb not someone who is all college hype.

[cougarjake13]

How ridiculous is the situation out there in Denver? Tebow has looked like shit from everything that has been written and Orton has looked miles ahead of him. Yet the fans want Tebow and so does the local media.

I never understood why Chicago didnt keep Orton as the starter after his rookie year when he went like 10 or 11 and 5? He has looked great as a starter in Denver both seasons. It wasnt his fault the team sucked last year it was the defense. They should stick with a guy who have proven to be a solid nfl qb not someone who is all college hype.

bc they had the immortal rex grossman

[cougarjake13]

i thought panic time until hippo said how they suck and they are gonna struggle. Now im celebrating the future Giants SB victory

the giants WILL win the SB this year. You can laugh, but the last time I said that was 2007.


18-0.....1 more to go superbowowowowowowow

and much like 07 we had a disgruntled pro bowl de wanting a new deal

[underdog]

i agree. i think the lockout helps them alot too. for the most part, every single player who will be in a key role for the giants already knows the offense, the coaching staff, the timing with the QB. If they could learn to hold onto a fuckin football, i see no reason why they couldnt win more than the 10 games they won last year.

will they, who knows. its the fuckin giants. they will prob start 7-1 and finish 9-7

Or they start 2-6 and end the season at 9-7 and make the playoffs.

How ridiculous is the situation out there in Denver? Tebow has looked like shit from everything that has been written and Orton has looked miles ahead of him. Yet the fans want Tebow and so does the local media.

I never understood why Chicago didnt keep Orton as the starter after his rookie year when he went like 10 or 11 and 5? He has looked great as a starter in Denver both seasons. It wasnt his fault the team sucked last year it was the defense. They should stick with a guy who have proven to be a solid nfl qb not someone who is all college hype.

Orton has NEVER looked great. He's just been Trent Dilfer-esque season after season. He has no upside because he's reached it. Do you stay with the middle of the road QB or do you risk it for the terrible guy who has some sort of indescribable upside?

[Snacks]

Or they start 2-6 and end the season at 9-7 and make the playoffs.



Orton has NEVER looked great. He's just been Trent Dilfer-esque season after season. He has no upside because he's reached it. Do you stay with the middle of the road QB or do you risk it for the terrible guy who has some sort of indescribable upside?

What upside does Tebow have that he talks to Jesus? Hes not accurate, he has happy feet, he obviously cant count because he cant get the 3 step drop back down and he still cant play under center. Orton has better #s then Dilfer and Dilfer did win a super bowl towards the end of his career so I would think Denver or just about any team would be happy with that.

[Tenbatsuzen]

From what I've read, the lockout really affected Tebow, because he needs knowledge. He showed up to camp in great shape but his skills were not there, especially grasping the offense.

[underdog]

What upside does Tebow have that he talks to Jesus? Hes not accurate, he has happy feet, he obviously cant count because he cant get the 3 step drop back down and he still cant play under center. Orton has better #s then Dilfer and Dilfer did win a super bowl towards the end of his career so I would think Denver or just about any team would be happy with that.

Orton will never move above where he is. I'm not saying Tebow has legitimate upside, but people think he does, so they're willing to invest in him, especially on a terrible team. If he lived up to just a bit of his upside, he'd be better than Orton.

And yes, Dilfer was on a team that won a super bowl, but the team won because of the defense. All Dilfer had to do was not be a complete negative.

[underdog]

From what I've read, the lockout really affected Tebow, because he needs knowledge. He showed up to camp in great shape but his skills were not there, especially grasping the offense.

yeah, that seems about right. Those type of people don't really grasp things very fast.

[spoon]

Orton will never move above where he is. I'm not saying Tebow has legitimate upside, but people think he does, so they're willing to invest in him, especially on a terrible team. If he lived up to just a bit of his upside, he'd be better than Orton.

And yes, Dilfer was on a team that won a super bowl, but the team won because of the defense. All Dilfer had to do was not be a complete negative.

Denver has to have made some of the WORST draft picks I could remember. By this I mean picks that pretty much even a novice could see, not something like the Raiders just taking speed every draft versus actual talent or Detroit taking wideouts in the first for years. All have been terrible, but Denver has both Clarett and Tebow on the recent resume and each could have been had much later, if not as a free agent in Clarett's case. They routinely fall for guys with hype and fanfare, as agents must really influence them overall to pick their guy earlier. I guess Tebow still has a shot, but I for one am happy bc the Broncos should suck. It's just feels so right.

[Snacks]

Eagles sing another good player but is he healthy or is he worth the risk? I say hes worth it and hes cheap. You are also taking him away cheaply from your rival.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4227/steve-smith

[TripleSkeet]

Eagles sing another good player but is he healthy or is he worth the risk? I say hes worth it and hes cheap. You are also taking him away cheaply from your rival.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4227/steve-smith

They have said they expect him back in the 1st month of the season. Well see. I always thought he was a good receiver.

[cougarjake13]

They have said they expect him back in the 1st month of the season. Well see. I always thought he was a good receiver.

with as deep as they are at wr he'll be back in the role that made him most valuable as a giant

[Snacks]

They have said they expect him back in the 1st month of the season. Well see. I always thought he was a good receiver.

So did I, I wasn't surprised when he had that break out season 2 seasons ago. He just never got a shot and now hes hurt but if he can get healthy he could be a cheap steal!

[King Imp]

Eagles sing another good player but is he healthy or is he worth the risk? I say hes worth it and hes cheap. You are also taking him away cheaply from your rival.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4227/steve-smith

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?!?! The Giants deserve to finish last with how much they are fucking up this offseason. Steve Smith was only our Wes Welker, the guy you could count on to catch a lot of passes and gain a lot of yards to keep us moving down the field.

Sure, people can say he was hurt and they didn't want to take a chance. Well guess what? So was Wes Welker and look how that turned out.

[TripleSkeet]

with as deep as they are at wr he'll be back in the role that made him most valuable as a giant

I have this strange feeling they got him because Macklin isnt gonna play this year. Hes had some mysterious illness thats kept him out of camp, I just think its gonna turn out to be something bad.

[spoon]

I have this strange feeling they got him because Macklin isnt gonna play this year. Hes had some mysterious illness thats kept him out of camp, I just think its gonna turn out to be something bad.

Didn't know that, keep me posted if you learn anything more.

As for the giants, they have plenty of WRs and Cruz should step in fine.

[hanso]

Giants and Cowboys. Addition by subtraction?

[King Imp]

I'm so glad our VP of Communications is a mature individual. :dry:

VP calls out fans (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6852878/knucklehead)


Here's an idea jackass. Instead of worrying about what the fans are saying, maybe you should "communicate" to the front offices to do something in the offseason besides lose all your players.

[cougarjake13]

I have this strange feeling they got him because Macklin isnt gonna play this year. Hes had some mysterious illness thats kept him out of camp, I just think its gonna turn out to be something bad.

that was my thoughts as well otherwise theres not enough playing time for everyone and why would you spend that money on smith for depth when you could get someone with less health issues if youre just looking to fill a roster spot

[TripleSkeet]

Didn't know that, keep me posted if you learn anything more.

As for the giants, they have plenty of WRs and Cruz should step in fine.

Apparently hes losing weight and they dont know why. He went to St. Louis to get more tests done today. His dads a doctor.

[hanso]

I'm so glad our VP of Communications is a mature individual. :dry:

VP calls out fans (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6852878/knucklehead)


Here's an idea jackass. Instead of worrying about what the fans are saying, maybe you should "communicate" to the front offices to do something in the offseason besides lose all your players.

Rail everyone on the big social networks, love this. And hire Don Rickles as a writer.

[spoon]

What....the....fuck????? :blink:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6849640/rex-grossman-confident-washington-redskins-win-nfc-east



Ok, TS or someone HAS to kill this autoplay bullshit. Once again, FUCK ESPN.

[PapaBear]

Ok, TS or someone HAS to kill this autoplay bullshit. Once again, FUCK ESPN.
I agree. Sorry, TS. The only way I could get rid of the video was to delete your post. But the link is still in spoon's quote of your post.

[Snacks]

I agree. Sorry, TS. The only way I could get rid of the video was to delete your post. But the link is still in spoon's quote of your post.

Im stull trying to figure out what ts was wtfing? was it because rex said washington would be good or that wash hasnt won the div since 1999?

[PapaBear]

Im stull trying to figure out what ts was wtfing? was it because rex said washington would be good or that wash hasnt won the div since 1999?
That they would win the NFC East.

[cougarjake13]

Ok, TS or someone HAS to kill this autoplay bullshit. Once again, FUCK ESPN.

i guess until the season starts anything is possible and like last year no one thought the chiefs woulda won their division but the afc west is no where near the nfc east


and unless the eagles are playing the giants while the cowboys are in the parking lot waiting to play next while the stadium implodes and gets swallowed into a huge sink hole

the skins arent winning the division

[TripleSkeet]

i guess until the season starts anything is possible and like last year no one thought the chiefs woulda won their division but the afc west is no where near the nfc east


and unless the eagles are playing the giants while the cowboys are in the parking lot waiting to play next while the stadium implodes and gets swallowed into a huge sink hole

the skins arent winning the division

The last time they won the division, the Cardinals were in it. And this might be the worst team theyve had in the last 10 years.

[cougarjake13]

The last time they won the division, the Cardinals were in it. And this might be the worst team theyve had in the last 10 years.

i know and as long as snyders there i dont think they'll ever be real contenders


they may make a playoff app. here and there like they did a few yrs back but i dont see them putting it all together

[CountryBob]

Skins arent gonna ever put it together again until they get a marque QB. Or an offensive line that can protect...

[cougarjake13]

Skins arent gonna ever put it together again until they get a marque QB. Or an offensive line that can protect...

or a defense

or a


well its just getting redundant

[spoon]

i guess until the season starts anything is possible and like last year no one thought the chiefs woulda won their division but the afc west is no where near the nfc east


Well actually, the AFC West only had one team under .500 and overall there are many similarities. Just bc we live the NFC East around here (northeast and on this board), it doesn't make that true.

Similarities to me.

1) Both had favorites to win the division that underachieved and had coaching issues (SD and Dallas).

2) The divisions each have one team completely in disarray, both used to be perennial playoff forces (Denver/Washington).

3) Both teams that finished second can tie it down to REALLY bad losses in games to division rivals, including the eventual division champions. In fact, both lost a game due to long punt returns in the end.

[cougarjake13]

i see your similarities and theyre spot on


but i think the talent of washington's 3 other teams to get ahead of are greater then the talent in the afc west


your sd -dal comparison was good for last years teams and expectations


philly and the giants are better than kc and oak or den

[spoon]

i see your similarities and theyre spot on


but i think the talent of washington's 3 other teams to get ahead of are greater then the talent in the afc west


your sd -dal comparison was good for last years teams and expectations


philly and the giants are better than kc and oak or den

That's just not a fair comp there, you picked the top two (predicted) in one division versus the middle of the other.

A fair comp would be all other 3 vs 3 or SD/KC vs Philly/NY or Dal. I'd say the biggest dif is the third best team until Oakland loses their owner, but then again, tie them to Washington (Davis/Snider) and there you have another similarity.

[cougarjake13]

my buddy started a fantasy league on the nfl.com site


anyone welcome to join



League ID:460441

Password:8jobbers

[disneyspy]

where the fuck is BAMA!!

[disneyspy]

Giants and Cowboys. Addition by subtraction?

i dont know the boys cut alot of good players that the bears signed very quickly,i can see the bears having a really good season

[spoon]

where the fuck is BAMA!!

I'll send him a PM. If not, one of us can start it, but he's run it for years.

[spoon]

i dont know the boys cut alot of good players that the bears signed very quickly,i can see the bears having a really good season

Nah, I see them taking a nice step the other way.

[disneyspy]

I'll send him a PM. If not, one of us can start it, but he's run it for years.

we have to do it on yahoo,i dont know why but those are the most fun when it comes to the messages

[spoon]

we have to do it on yahoo,i dont know why but those are the most fun when it comes to the messages

He always does and it's the best site for fantasy sports to be honest. I've used them all and it's easily the most user friendly and fun.

[Snacks]

He always does and it's the best site for fantasy sports to be honest. I've used them all and it's easily the most user friendly and fun.

I disagree I think cbssports is by far the best for fantasy leagues. but i guess it really comes down to preference.

[spoon]

I disagree I think cbssports is by far the best for fantasy leagues. but i guess it really comes down to preference.

Agreed, I like women & yahoo and you like men & cbs big bang theory sports!

:devil2:

[walking joint]

Bama has set up a league. i'm in it.

[walking joint]

oh, and as a Chiefs fan i'm not excited about this season. we couldn't have had an easier schedule last year and took advantage of it. after winning the division last year I see a drop off this year. hopeful, but expect a 7-9 type season.

[disneyspy]

Bama has set up a league. i'm in it.

does he hate us?

[walking joint]

he told me not to say anything, but I can't keep a secret

[TripleSkeet]

I disagree I think cbssports is by far the best for fantasy leagues. but i guess it really comes down to preference.

CBS is head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to fantasy. However thats because you have to pay for it. The only reason I would ever use Yahoo is because its free.

[hanso]

If it's not standard settings I'm out. Got screwed out of playoffs last time. After working real hard to get back.

[Snacks]

CBS is head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to fantasy. However thats because you have to pay for it. The only reason I would ever use Yahoo is because its free.

I started a free league on cbs.

[Snoogans]

ill be starting the league in a week or so. we are gonna be doin auction this year. ill hit you all up who were in

[hanso]

Skins arent gonna ever put it together again until they get a marque QB. Or an offensive line that can protect...

They now have the great Grossman. All is well.

[TripleSkeet]

I started a free league on cbs.

Ive never seen one. What does it not have that the pay leagues have?

[Snacks]

Ive never seen one. What does it not have that the pay leagues have?

you cant change the rules and there is no real commish. So if someone needed something done they have to email cbs directly no one in the league can make the changes. Its basically the same but I dont know if you can make it private or not.

[spoon]

See, that sounds awful and when I used cbs it fd up all the time. Yahoo, use it.

[cougarjake13]

I'll send him a PM. If not, one of us can start it, but he's run it for years.

he already has it set up

[TripleSkeet]

See, that sounds awful and when I used cbs it fd up all the time. Yahoo, use it.

Yea well I only used the pay CBS site. Gotta be 10 years so far for baseball and football and nothing else has even come close as far as being informative and easy to use for me.

[Snacks]

See, that sounds awful and when I used cbs it fd up all the time. Yahoo, use it.

The set up, look and feel of the site is 1000x better then yahoo. when someone asks me to join their league and tells me its yahoo league I dont even bother because I hate everything about yahoo fantasy leagues. Doing player research, pick ups, all transactions, the live draft and everything else is just better and easier on cbssports!

[Snacks]

Yea well I only used the pay CBS site. Gotta be 10 years so far for baseball and football and nothing else has even come close as far as being informative and easy to use for me.

agreed.

everything is the same look and feel of the paid vs the free cbs leagues. the only difference is you dont control the league or the rules. they are basic fantasy rules and line ups. i still dont know if the league could be private or not but even if it has to be public you can list that you want to keep it invite only and you can also fill it up yourself before anyone else gets a chance to use it. i usually only use the paid site anyway but sometimes i want to join another league for the hell of it.

[disneyspy]

he already has it set up

psssst he doesnt want spoon in it

[spoon]

my guess is it's familiarity more than a feature breakdown bc yahoo allows you to change anything you want, especially league settings

i've used cbs and it simply doesn't measure up and paying money just isn't needed...ever

[Snacks]

my guess is it's familiarity more than a feature breakdown bc yahoo allows you to change anything you want, especially league settings

i've used cbs and it simply doesn't measure up and paying money just isn't needed...ever

That kind of proves to me how much better cbs is as well. with all the free sites out there that allow you to do all this many people still pay the $100+ fee to be able to use cbs? I think it just shows how great cbs is that people would rather pay the fee and get the ease and functions that cbs offers rather then shitty yahoo!

[disneyspy]

That kind of proves to me how much better cbs is as well. with all the free sites out there that allow you to do all this many people still pay the $100+ fee to be able to use cbs? I think it just shows how great cbs is that people would rather pay the fee and get the ease and functions that cbs offers rather then shitty yahoo!

but isnt half the fun knowing everybody in your league and busting balls? the ronfez.net yahoo leagues are always a blast

[Snacks]

but isnt half the fun knowing everybody in your league and busting balls? the ronfez.net yahoo leagues are always a blast

if i was to have a league like that then i would rather pay to be in a cbs league. like i said you can have a free league like that on cbs as well you just need to set up and have everyone grab 1 of the sports asap. i set up a league early enough in advance so that no one would join and it gave me enough time for everyone i wanted to join to get there. you can name the league ron fez.net only etc too.

[disneyspy]

i like the group id # where only people from this board know the number and password and messing with aggie,hippo and the rest of the people that we only see this time of year

[TripleSkeet]

but isnt half the fun knowing everybody in your league and busting balls? the ronfez.net yahoo leagues are always a blast

Yea well Ive never done a fantasy league with all strangers.

[spoon]

That kind of proves to me how much better cbs is as well. with all the free sites out there that allow you to do all this many people still pay the $100+ fee to be able to use cbs? I think it just shows how great cbs is that people would rather pay the fee and get the ease and functions that cbs offers rather then shitty yahoo!

That's insanity. Dumb people pay to have the same features of exclusivity and ease on yahoo proves it to you? Come on man, when was the last time you even used Yahoo? I get the feeling you're comparing yahoo of 2005 to cbs 2010 or something. I can't be sure, but I've used cbs and to me it's inferior by a MILE.